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Jul 21 20:14:46 <[g2]> dyoung around ?
Jul 21 20:38:18 <dyoung-web> no, but I could be.
Jul 21 20:38:42 <[g2]> dyoung-web, hey..... just a quick question....
Jul 21 20:38:57 <[g2]> ever play with 433Mhz wireless weather sensors ?
Jul 21 20:39:55 <dyoung-web> like the davis ones?
Jul 21 20:40:31 <[g2]> davis ??? this is a RS one, I think it's the same a Oregon Sci.
Jul 21 20:43:18 <dyoung-web> hmm, maybe not the specific device youre looking at, but I have played with 433Mhz stuff and weather stuff.
Jul 21 20:44:15 <[g2]> I was wonder how hard it would be to capture and decode
Jul 21 20:44:29 <[g2]> I'm guessing not too hard
Jul 21 20:47:05 <dyoung-web> aha there it is.  Linux Technologies has piles of 433Mhz and 418Mhz doo-dads and eval kits.
Jul 21 20:47:34 <dyoung-web> I think those bands are only type accepted for "regular" fsk type comms
Jul 21 20:47:57 <rwhitby-away> [g2]: FYI, I have put an initial .bb for apex in OpenSlug
Jul 21 20:48:13 <rwhitby-away> (cause we'll probably need to use it for the DebianSlug image)
Jul 21 20:48:42 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, it's make things much easier 
Jul 21 20:49:02 <[g2]> Umm... just boot the box in LE
Jul 21 20:49:14 <rwhitby-away> we even got a new official STAGING_LOADER_DIR in OE for it :-)
Jul 21 20:49:44 <dyoung-web> http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T052/0659.pdf
Jul 21 20:52:39 <dyoung-web> Thikning about capturing your neighbors Weather Station Signal?
Jul 21 20:53:45 <[g2]> nah.. I picked up one today
Jul 21 20:54:06 <[g2]> $49+$19 for the extra sensor
Jul 21 20:54:12 <Tiersten> You not got the base station part?
Jul 21 20:54:59 <[g2]> The base for $49 with the LED readout + 1 outside sensor for Temp/Hum
Jul 21 20:55:19 <[g2]> I got the extra outside sensor for Temp/Hum
Jul 21 20:55:22 <dyoung-web> you got that in store?
Jul 21 20:55:26 <[g2]> nod
Jul 21 20:55:40 <dyoung-web> I've been debating getting a weather doo-dad for dyoung-home for a while.
Jul 21 20:55:42 <rwhitby-away> what's the model # ?
Jul 21 20:55:45 <Tiersten> Oh.  No RS232 output?
Jul 21 20:56:26 <rwhitby-away> BTW, dyoung-web: I got some iButtons from Dallas semi as samples.  Only memory ones though.  They didn't send me the Thermocrons for some reason.
Jul 21 20:56:52 <dyoung-web> Yeah, I never did get to finish ordering up my sample set...
Jul 21 20:57:32 <rwhitby-away> I got it to work in windows with the usb ibutton adapter (which BTW, are $60 here if you want to buy one)
Jul 21 20:57:40 <[g2]> http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=63-1092
Jul 21 20:57:43 <rwhitby-away> ... and stored my monotone keys on it :-)
Jul 21 20:57:44 <[g2]> that's the sensor
Jul 21 20:58:49 <dyoung-web> hmm, Yet Another Use for the RX Only Port ?
Jul 21 20:58:55 <Tiersten> it's already listed
Jul 21 20:59:10 <[g2]> http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=63-1089
Jul 21 20:59:16 <[g2]> that's the base
Jul 21 20:59:49 <[g2]> actually... it's may be a different one
Jul 21 21:00:51 <dyoung-web> Cool.
Jul 21 21:00:54 <[g2]> yeah... $59.99 this one http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=63-1090
Jul 21 21:01:58 <[g2]> Although the Atomic clock part did seem to make much sense to me
Jul 21 21:02:00 <dyoung-web> all items in stock!
Jul 21 21:02:36 <dyoung-web> I wonder if the base can be hacked to output serial easily...
Jul 21 21:03:04 <[g2]> I'm sure
Jul 21 21:03:24 <[g2]> the LCD driver could get the info :)
Jul 21 21:03:48 <[g2]> I haven't taken it apart
Jul 21 21:03:55 <Tiersten> If it follows the same protocol as my OS weather station then it's not too hard to decode
Jul 21 21:04:04 <Tiersten> the wireless link that is
Jul 21 21:04:39 <[g2]> FSK ?
Jul 21 21:04:45 <Tiersten> Yeah
Jul 21 21:04:49 <Tiersten> Very sloooow as well
Jul 21 21:05:09 <[g2]> 300 baud ?
Jul 21 21:05:21 <Tiersten> It just periodically sends out it's serial num, batt status and sensor value.  That's it
Jul 21 21:05:40 <Tiersten> Probably. Didn't bother to test it as the basestation already comes with RS232 output
Jul 21 21:05:46 <[g2]> yeah... I see the light link every now and then
Jul 21 21:06:35 <[g2]> there's a channel 1, 2 or 3 selector on the wireless units so those proably send 1 2 or 3 for the serial #
Jul 21 21:06:54 <Tiersten> ah.  that's different then
Jul 21 21:07:17 <Tiersten> No option for that on mine.  You press on the touchscreen for a certain amount of time and it starts listening for new sensors
Jul 21 21:09:20 <[g2]> this is the "cheap" model :)
Jul 21 21:10:16 <Tiersten> I've got the expensive model for all the good that it is doing
Jul 21 21:10:44 <Tiersten> At the moment it's doing a great job of measuring the weather on the side of my desk since I've not gotten around to mounting it
Jul 21 21:11:20 <[g2]> heh
Jul 21 21:12:14 <dyoung-web> One of these days I'll get WeatherSlug up.
Jul 21 21:12:46 <dyoung-web> I have a water-resistant housing for it and the camera.
Jul 21 21:14:35 <dyoung-web> so [g2] do you recommend this as a toy?
Jul 21 21:14:48 <dyoung-web> I havnt bought a toy for a while....
Jul 21 21:16:13 <Tiersten> Don't you play with expensive sensors at work anyway? :)
Jul 21 21:16:44 <dyoung-web> Yeah, sometimes.
Jul 21 21:16:49 <dyoung-web> but its not the same!
Jul 21 21:18:22 <dyoung-web> been playing with this: http://www.onsetcomp.com/Products/Product_Pages/water_level/water_level_logger.html
Jul 21 21:18:44 <dyoung-web> Cute; but kinda fragile.
Jul 21 21:19:25 <[g2]> HomeOfficeBoatOffice ?
Jul 21 21:19:34 <Tiersten> Pricey
Jul 21 21:19:59 <dyoung-web> it is a bit pricy; but not as pricy as the alternative.
Jul 21 21:20:35 <[g2]> Optical USB yummy
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