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Oct 24 05:48:05 <lennert> i had something really weird the other day
Oct 24 05:48:11 <lennert> i was running a program to flash some LEDs
Oct 24 05:48:23 <lennert> then, without resetting the spartan3, i loaded pong.bit via JTAG
Oct 24 05:48:33 <lennert> pong started playing on the screen, but the LEDs kept on flashing
Oct 24 05:48:50 <lennert> so.. configure the device twice without resetting and it'll run two bitstreams simultaneously? :)
Oct 24 05:50:04 <lennert> (what my loader should be doing, but doesn't at present, is to check the DONE pin and optionally run JSHUTDOWN or something)
Oct 24 05:56:13 <vmaster_> heh, you should load 128 ublaze cores then, without resetting ;)
Oct 24 05:57:19 <lennert> i guess that they were using unrelated logic so it didn't blow up
Oct 24 05:57:27 <lennert> still weird that it allows you to do this
Oct 24 05:57:34 <lennert> :)
Oct 24 07:32:33 <ka6sox-zzzz> morning
Oct 24 07:45:28 <ep1220> hi ka6sox-zzzz
Oct 24 07:45:31 <ep1220> I have some pics of the JTAG IF in http://de.share.geocities.com/at2cn/JtagIF_img.pdf
Oct 24 07:46:25 * prpplague looks
Oct 24 07:48:09 <prpplague> ep1220: oh wow, nice looking 
Oct 24 07:48:18 <ep1220> prpplague: Thx
Oct 24 07:49:10 <prpplague> ep1220: where can i get one :)
Oct 24 07:50:06 <ep1220> I do have some more of the PCBs
Oct 24 07:50:31 <ep1220> You could solder the parts yourself ?
Oct 24 07:50:41 <ka6sox-zzzz> Diese Website ist momentan nicht verfügbar
Oct 24 07:51:52 <ep1220> Did not know they limit acess at this site
Oct 24 07:52:13 <ka6sox-zzzz> no problem....
Oct 24 07:52:15 <ep1220> the errormsg says try again in an hour :-(
Oct 24 07:53:17 <ka6sox-zzzz> oh well...no problem
Oct 24 07:59:31 <ka6sox-zzzz> those are very good pix!
Oct 24 07:59:50 <ep1220> ka6sox-zzzz: Thx
Oct 24 08:00:59 <prpplague> ep1220: yea i could solder it myself, but i'd probably send it to our assembly department
Oct 24 08:01:18 <prpplague> ep1220: have you got schematics available?
Oct 24 08:02:36 <prpplague> ep1220: doh, did you remove the pdf?
Oct 24 08:03:05 <prpplague> "
Oct 24 08:03:06 <prpplague> Die aufgerufene Web-Site hat die Anzahl der möglichen Abrufe überschritten.
Oct 24 08:03:06 <prpplague> Der Zugriff auf diese Site wird innerhalb der nächsten Stunde wieder möglich sein. Versuchen Sie es dann bitte erneut."
Oct 24 08:03:22 <ep1220> Too many accesses.
Oct 24 08:03:26 <prpplague> ahh
Oct 24 08:03:41 <prpplague> bummer i was gonna forward a copy to my boss
Oct 24 08:04:00 <ep1220> it also says: Try again in an hour.
Oct 24 08:04:06 <prpplague> oh ok
Oct 24 08:04:36 <ep1220> Must update schematics and BOM.
Oct 24 08:04:44 <ep1220> Will be available tomorrow
Oct 24 08:04:49 <prpplague> ep1220: ok thanks
Oct 24 08:05:03 <prpplague> ep1220: i suspect my boss will want to make a couple
Oct 24 08:05:28 <prpplague> ep1220: uh sorry i didn't even think to ask, this is an open design right?
Oct 24 08:07:07 <ep1220> prpplague: There is only marginal SW available so far.
Oct 24 08:07:25 <prpplague> ep1220: hehe, well thats what i do
Oct 24 08:07:49 <ep1220> And I also should verify HW functionality first ;-)
Oct 24 08:08:03 <prpplague> ep1220: i've been tinkering with ex-usb based stuff for jtag but this looks interesing too
Oct 24 08:08:19 <ep1220> what is ex-usb ?
Oct 24 08:08:29 <prpplague> sorry ez-usb
Oct 24 08:08:38 <prpplague> http://www.elinux.org/wiki/EzUsb
Oct 24 08:08:43 <ep1220> I know this one
Oct 24 08:09:03 <ep1220> Also evaluated it for JTAG.
Oct 24 08:09:27 <prpplague> i was using it for other projects so it was handy to test jtag with
Oct 24 08:15:36 <ep1220> prpplague: What JTAG CLK rate did you achieve ?
Oct 24 08:18:00 <prpplague> ep1220: haven't really spent any significant time testing, been working on another project, but it was about 2x faster than my wiggler
Oct 24 08:18:42 <bullet> ep1220: what clk rate do you achieve with your tagger?
Oct 24 08:19:00 <lennert> i get about 300khz with my parallel digilent cable
Oct 24 08:19:06 <lennert> ~330khz
Oct 24 08:20:17 <prpplague> bullet: like i said, i really didn't spend any time doing testing, i got pulled off another project, won't be able to get back on it for a couple of weeks
Oct 24 08:20:47 <bullet> prpplague: i actually asked ep1220 about his ftdi based jtagger
Oct 24 08:21:06 <prpplague> bullet: ahh, sorry mis read
Oct 24 08:21:27 <ep1220> bullet: the chip can do 6MHz (but the clock is not continous)
Oct 24 08:21:35 <ep1220> and then there is the USB latency
Oct 24 08:21:48 <ep1220> so it will depend a lot on the SW
Oct 24 08:22:03 <ep1220> and what You want to do.
Oct 24 08:22:22 <ep1220> It certainly will not be on par with an Abatron or Windriver USB probe
Oct 24 08:22:55 <bullet> so is the price :)
Oct 24 08:26:53 <ep1220> bullet: right :-)
Oct 24 09:47:55 <[g2]> ep1220-log do you have working boards ?
Oct 24 13:02:42 <ka6sox> moo
Oct 24 13:03:35 <lennert> mooooooo
Oct 24 15:05:27 <[g2]> cow
Oct 24 15:06:17 <lennert> milk
Oct 24 15:07:26 <Tiersten> cookies
Oct 24 15:08:31 <lennert> pie and a case of heineken
Oct 24 15:09:08 <Tiersten> hmm... a single pie and a whole case of heineken...
Oct 24 15:10:32 <ka6sox> whoa....guess who's bachin it!
Oct 24 15:10:36 <lennert> yes
Oct 24 15:10:43 <Tiersten> bachin?
Oct 24 15:10:43 <lennert> or two pies
Oct 24 15:11:47 <ka6sox> what flavour?
Oct 24 15:11:58 <lennert> chocolate!
Oct 24 15:12:20 <ka6sox> bet marija loves that!
Oct 24 15:12:31 <lennert> well.. yeah
Oct 24 15:14:23 <Tiersten> two pies and a case of heineken?  it's a party now?
Oct 24 15:14:42 <lennert> i dunno
Oct 24 15:14:45 <lennert> i think we have pie at home
Oct 24 15:14:51 <lennert> and we have 1.5 case of beer, but that's grolsch
Oct 24 15:15:03 <Tiersten> that'll do
Oct 24 15:15:26 <lennert> :)
Oct 24 15:15:33 <lennert> stop by if you're ever around
Oct 24 15:16:28 <Tiersten> heh
Oct 24 15:16:31 <Tiersten> Where are you anyway?
Oct 24 15:16:47 <lennert> Leiden, the Netherlands
Oct 24 15:16:52 <lennert> between rotterdam and amsterdam
Oct 24 15:17:07 <Tiersten> ah
Oct 24 15:17:13 <Tiersten> Only been to Amsterdam
Oct 24 15:17:15 <lennert> not that far from you
Oct 24 15:18:04 <Tiersten> Nope
Oct 24 15:29:50 <ka6sox> trying to remember how far south I was.
Oct 24 22:50:45 <ka6sox> morning
Oct 24 22:51:00 <ep1220> hi
Oct 24 22:51:23 <ka6sox> I'm headed off to bed but thought I'd say hi.
Oct 24 22:51:33 <ep1220> thx.
Oct 24 22:51:45 <ka6sox> that board looks fantastic.
Oct 24 22:51:53 <ep1220> thx
Oct 24 22:52:05 <ep1220> spent some time on it :-)
Oct 24 22:52:11 <ka6sox> ya..it shows.
Oct 24 22:52:53 <ep1220> hope later today I can report to You: all works
Oct 24 22:53:10 <ka6sox> cool...
Oct 24 22:53:20 <ka6sox> 73's
Oct 24 22:55:57 <ep1220> ???
Oct 24 22:56:23 <ka6sox> nm...I'm tired and that was for another channel...
Oct 24 22:56:42 <ka6sox> its goodbye and good luck in Morse Code
Oct 24 22:56:50 <ka6sox> shorthand)
Oct 24 23:07:01 <ep1220> sleep well
Oct 24 23:09:25 <ka6sox> thanks
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