**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 17 02:59:56 2006 Aug 17 17:29:49 vmaster: you alive? Aug 17 17:46:24 hey prpplague Aug 17 17:54:29 vmaster: hey, question Aug 17 17:54:59 vmaster: suppose you have an arm9 cpu dev board..... Aug 17 17:55:40 vmaster: your choices for a package would be a 40 , 48 , or 56 pin package, what would you choose? Aug 17 17:56:11 a ARM9 cpu in a 40-56 pin package? Aug 17 17:56:20 vmaster: yea Aug 17 17:56:59 vmaster: i.e. cpu+ram+flash in a 40-pin dip package Aug 17 17:57:36 ah, okay, you mean all the high-density parts on a small board that brings out the peripherals on a dip package? Aug 17 17:57:52 yea Aug 17 17:58:13 mhh, guess that really depends on what i'm missing with the 40 pin package Aug 17 17:58:44 about the only thing this doesn't have is support for tft lcd and i2s Aug 17 17:58:56 for a 40-pin package Aug 17 17:59:24 the 40-pin dip seems to really attractive to devrs Aug 17 17:59:30 the 40 pin package should be fine Aug 17 17:59:30 yeah Aug 17 17:59:41 unless you really want something multi-media Aug 17 17:59:50 where lcd and i2s are a must Aug 17 18:00:05 well it will support up to an 8-bit stn Aug 17 18:00:22 just don't have the control lines for tft Aug 17 18:01:02 thats mainly what i was thinking, if we went with a 48 pin dip, we could add some support for tft and i2s Aug 17 18:01:20 would it increase costs by much? Aug 17 18:01:30 no, not at all Aug 17 18:01:49 maybe a few cents Aug 17 18:03:12 so the drawback of the 48pin package is mostly size, right? Aug 17 18:03:21 yea Aug 17 18:03:40 is this really a problem for prototyping? guess that's where people would use dip modules? Aug 17 18:04:05 yea product is targeted at hobbists Aug 17 18:04:31 heh, ok, then i'd like to change my vote to "48" Aug 17 18:04:53 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3018896570.html Aug 17 18:05:00 something one lines of that Aug 17 18:05:57 nice Aug 17 18:06:22 ours is alot nicer, hehe Aug 17 18:06:36 hehehe ;) Aug 17 18:06:45 got some stuff from Olimex today Aug 17 18:06:50 including the ARM-USB-OCD Aug 17 18:06:59 vmaster: cool Aug 17 18:07:45 plus a EP9301 board with eth and usb-host and a SAM7-EX256 board with a 128x128 TFT lcd Aug 17 18:08:15 not sure what i'm going to use these for (other than testing my debugger with), but they're nice to play with Aug 17 18:10:16 vmaster: oh? i didn't know olimex was selling a tft lcd Aug 17 18:10:19 * prpplague looks Aug 17 18:10:27 it's mounted on the board Aug 17 18:10:40 http://www.olimex.com/dev/sam7-ex256.html Aug 17 18:10:48 oh Aug 17 18:10:52 not sold seperately Aug 17 18:11:07 holy cow thats small Aug 17 18:11:26 guess it's taken from a mobile Aug 17 18:11:28 isn't that the same lcd that sparkfun sells? Aug 17 18:11:36 thats spi bases isn't it? Aug 17 18:12:24 yeah, it uses spi Aug 17 18:12:55 yea thats the same as the sfe lcd Aug 17 18:13:02 from a nokia cell phone iirc Aug 17 18:13:20 very robust board Aug 17 18:14:42 surprised they didn't use an enc28j60 on the board Aug 17 18:15:34 vmaster: the audio out doing pwm audio? Aug 17 18:15:50 yep, and it really sounds like that :) Aug 17 18:16:05 hehe Aug 17 18:16:58 hehe, funny, our board has pretty close to the same pins as the at91 on that board Aug 17 18:17:09 but we also have two usb interfaces Aug 17 18:19:52 wow that board is pretty close to what we had in mind for a carrier board Aug 17 18:23:27 hehehe Aug 17 18:24:57 hehe i wish i could get some more feedback from devrs but the boss wants to keep most the details quiet **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 18 02:59:57 2006