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Sep 23 15:04:09 <sjg56> anyone awake?
Sep 23 15:09:52 <vmaster> goetter: yeah?
Sep 23 17:19:29 <goetter> anyone? is it possible to install apex without a serial mod?
Sep 23 18:28:50 <ka6sox> goetter, nope
Sep 23 18:28:59 <ka6sox> at least you shouldn't
Sep 23 18:38:53 <goetter> where should i look to get a 4 pin header off of an old pcb?
Sep 23 18:40:42 <ka6sox> I just solder the wires directly in..what are you goin to use for a converter to RS232?
Sep 23 18:42:05 <goetter> not sure; i'm an administrator for a network of around 500 PCs, with the old/discarded/unneeded hardware that comes with that. anything typical i might find of use there?
Sep 23 18:42:19 <goetter> i'll need a usb interface.
Sep 23 18:42:51 <ka6sox> you might be able to use an Audio connector from a Mobo.
Sep 23 18:43:07 <ka6sox> the one for the CD
Sep 23 18:43:41 <goetter> probably on an old soundcard, really.
Sep 23 18:43:47 <ka6sox> ya
Sep 23 18:45:22 <goetter> what about the rs232 converter?
Sep 23 18:45:26 <goetter> i'll need to purchase something?
Sep 23 18:45:30 <ka6sox> yes
Sep 23 18:45:42 <vmaster> how about this: http://apple.clickandbuild.com/cnb/shop/ftdichip?productID=68&op=catalogue-product_info-null&prodCategoryID=47
Sep 23 18:45:54 <goetter> i don't live in that country
Sep 23 18:46:35 <ka6sox> what country?
Sep 23 18:46:39 <ka6sox> its the wrong sex
Sep 23 18:46:57 <ka6sox> you need something that either goes from USB to 3v3
Sep 23 18:47:21 <ka6sox> or 3v3 to RS232 if you have a real serial port.
Sep 23 18:47:38 <vmaster> the ftdi cable from the above link goes from usb->ft232->3.3v
Sep 23 18:47:55 <vmaster> and it has 6 bare wires
Sep 23 18:48:07 <ka6sox> kewl
Sep 23 18:48:14 <ka6sox> thaat would work.
Sep 23 18:48:50 <vmaster> if the pinout matches, this would be even nicer: 
Sep 23 18:48:58 <vmaster> http://apple.clickandbuild.com/cnb/shop/ftdichip?productID=53&op=catalogue-product_info-null&prodCategoryID=47
Sep 23 18:49:08 <goetter> i need to install ajax to use 64mb on the slug?
Sep 23 18:51:07 <ka6sox> 64MB is pretty hard on a Slug.
Sep 23 18:51:14 <goetter> why?
Sep 23 18:51:23 <ka6sox> tiny pc traces.
Sep 23 18:51:51 <goetter> er... is it any harder than 128mb.. or 256mb?
Sep 23 18:51:58 <ka6sox> no
Sep 23 18:52:08 <goetter> so you mean to say, memory mods on the slug are hard.
Sep 23 18:52:13 <ka6sox> yes
Sep 23 18:52:36 <goetter> granted that, do i need ajax to use 64mb?
Sep 23 18:52:48 <ka6sox> apex?
Sep 23 18:52:51 <ka6sox> probably.
Sep 23 18:52:52 <goetter> er yeah :)
Sep 23 18:53:35 <vmaster> heh, isn't ajax something to do with the web2.0 crap?
Sep 23 18:53:40 <ka6sox> ya
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