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Mar 12 19:14:19 <AchiestDragon> ok http://www.openjtag.net  is back online ,, so far managed to reformat the main page ,, is there any additions needed to that page atm or is that fine ?
Mar 12 19:16:08 <AchiestDragon> and its a fresh install of the wiki software so any old account info was lost 
Mar 12 19:17:26 <AchiestDragon> sofar i have only managed to reformat the main page ,, theres no other pages done as yet 
Mar 12 21:07:00 <ka6sox-office> kewl...thanks
Mar 12 21:07:16 <ka6sox-office> I"m kind of swamped today so anything that you can do would be a great help.
Mar 12 21:07:58 <AchiestDragon> well its not as easy as it looks , those original files each contain all the old edits also 
Mar 12 21:08:45 <AchiestDragon> and its hard trying to figure out whats current and what whas changed 
Mar 12 21:09:25 <AchiestDragon> http://www.openjtag.net/index.php?title=Hardware_design_discusion&oldid=21  for example 
Mar 12 21:10:18 <AchiestDragon> its actualy easyer to rewrite the site from scratch , thats what im doing atm 
Mar 12 21:10:43 <AchiestDragon> recovering old content where i can from the old wiki files 
Mar 12 21:11:51 <AchiestDragon> im also wanting feedback on the current state of the project so i can update it at the same time 
Mar 12 21:12:20 <AchiestDragon> like how well did the ft2232c design perform 
Mar 12 21:13:06 <vmaster> FT2232 based devices are offered by a variety of commercial parties, including FIC/OpenMoko for their Neo1973
Mar 12 21:13:38 <vmaster> the only software I know that supports it is the OpenOCD and a proprietary driver from LuminaryMicro for their Cortex-M3 devices
Mar 12 21:13:43 <AchiestDragon> not only that  but that guy who emailed me seems to be close to getting his ft2232 based board with a cpld for jtag use close to compleation 
Mar 12 21:13:47 <vmaster> ah, and Rowley, either now or in future
Mar 12 21:14:08 <AchiestDragon> ok so nothing happening mutch on that ,, 
Mar 12 21:14:38 <AchiestDragon> what if anything is dead that dosent need to go back on ,, i know the aztag is 
Mar 12 21:15:28 <AchiestDragon> but we now have the geep-b getting colse to being prototyped when we get the pcb's   that is ,,
Mar 12 21:16:41 <AchiestDragon> i have left room for a parallel port version and a usbdongle based one , as i feel that its still going to be of some use to some 
Mar 12 21:18:00 <AchiestDragon> i would like to add a project status/news  section to the main page but  i am not shure what the current state is 
Mar 12 21:33:13 <vmaster> AchiestDragon: 22:15 < AchiestDragon> not only that  but that guy who emailed me seems to be close to getting his ft2232 based board with a cpld for jtag use close to compleation
Mar 12 21:33:25 <vmaster> never heard about that - can you tell me more?
Mar 12 21:35:09 <AchiestDragon> he emailed me asking why the openjtag site was offline 
Mar 12 21:35:29 <vmaster> ah, i only noticed it was offline when you asked why
Mar 12 21:35:43 <AchiestDragon> he said 
Mar 12 21:35:47 <AchiestDragon> >>>> Does OpenJTAG has a real open JTAG hardware now?
Mar 12 21:35:49 <AchiestDragon> >>>> In the moment I am working on a USB-JTAG hardware
Mar 12 21:35:51 <AchiestDragon> >>>> with a ARM cpu and a CPLD. It should work up to 24MHz
Mar 12 21:35:53 <AchiestDragon> >>>> JTAG clock.
Mar 12 21:35:57 <vmaster> ah, that's michael fischer
Mar 12 21:36:07 <AchiestDragon> in his email
Mar 12 21:36:11 <AchiestDragon> ah you knonw him 
Mar 12 21:36:13 <vmaster> just saw you mentioned yagarto
Mar 12 21:36:30 <vmaster> yeah, he's creating the windows binaries for the OpenOCD, and maintains some howto pages
Mar 12 21:36:47 <AchiestDragon> anyway he has a problem with the cpld on his design atm 
Mar 12 21:37:00 <AchiestDragon> its written in verilog though 
Mar 12 21:37:12 <vmaster> uhm, the last simulations he sent me seemed to be fine
Mar 12 21:37:48 <AchiestDragon> well i dont trust simulators , there not as effective at spotting some problems as they should be 
Mar 12 21:39:14 <AchiestDragon> especialy some timing related problems 
Mar 12 21:40:15 <vmaster> yeah, of course, but originally there was a misunderstanding on how his cpld should operate, which i believe he got solved by now
Mar 12 21:41:04 <AchiestDragon> anyway  i doubt that it will achive 25mhz 
Mar 12 21:41:48 <AchiestDragon> the usb speed is going to limit it 
Mar 12 21:43:23 <AchiestDragon> unless he has some ram buffer on there also 
Mar 12 21:47:08 <AchiestDragon> i may be wrong 
Mar 12 21:47:10 <vmaster> the lpc2148 has 32kb
Mar 12 21:47:45 <vmaster> and it's certainly not going to reach 24mhz, unless you offload a lot of "logic" to the LPC
Mar 12 21:49:22 <vmaster> but i suppose several mhz are possible, and a sustained frequency of 6-10mhz would be a 4x increase over the ft2232
Mar 12 21:49:36 <AchiestDragon> yes
Mar 12 21:50:09 <vmaster> the ft2232 has a maximum frequency of 6mhz, but i have no idea how you could possibly reach that - buffers are too small and usb latency is to big
Mar 12 21:54:39 <AchiestDragon> i remeber formating a 10G usb hdd and it taking a hour or so 
Mar 12 21:57:28 <AchiestDragon> only ever did it that way once , now i remove its ide to usb adaptor and stick it in a machine to do that 
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