**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 01 02:59:56 2010 May 01 13:16:58 bodksi: if you are going to buy that module you may as well just buy this - http://www.amontec.com/jtagkey-tiny.shtml May 01 13:17:36 hi pytey :) May 01 13:17:45 hello May 01 13:17:49 yes, I am looking at that one too May 01 13:18:09 I like the jtag-key tiny May 01 13:18:35 however, two things: the postage from amontec is nearly as much as the jtagkey-tiny and... May 01 13:19:16 are you in EU? May 01 13:19:58 the dpl-usb module uses the new ft2232h (jtagkey[tiny] uses previous (usb 12mbps max) ft2232 chip May 01 13:20:06 yes UK May 01 13:20:44 yes, shipping is expensive, and they are shipped from .ch so I had to pay taxes May 01 13:20:57 fair point about the ft2232h, didn't notice that May 01 13:22:36 I nearly bought the jtagkey-tiny, I was in negotiation with Lauren Gauch (amontec guy) about postage, but he hasn't responded May 01 13:22:48 I am on a budget May 01 13:22:58 where in the UK are you? May 01 13:23:13 currently using a homemade wiggler (parallel port) cable May 01 13:23:21 Chichester, W.Sussex May 01 13:24:12 my wiggler is slow and temperamental :( May 01 13:24:15 there is another programmer that is cheap and has various firmware for different functions May 01 13:24:23 not sure about openocd support though May 01 13:24:37 I think it is supported May 01 13:24:48 usbprog? May 01 13:24:53 yeah May 01 13:24:56 15 quid May 01 13:25:05 wow, where from? May 01 13:25:19 I've even seen them for 10 May 01 13:25:33 from HK May 01 13:25:34 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-AVR-JTAG-Programmer-Debugger-buffer-chip-/270569147027?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3eff2d8a93#ht_2348wt_970 May 01 13:26:16 embedded-projects (run by one of the original designers grad students) are selling it for ~40 euros May 01 13:26:17 not sure if that is the one May 01 13:26:21 yeah May 01 13:26:32 maybe that is just an AVR programmer May 01 13:26:42 it looks similar May 01 13:27:10 here we go, this is even better - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-JTAG-Adapter-programmer-cable-ARM-7-9-Cortex-/280497107039?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item414eee305f#ht_552wt_1058 May 01 13:27:20 yes it does, maybe it si a usbprog clone with AVR 'firmware' loaded on board May 01 13:28:45 yeah, probably May 01 13:29:38 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ARM-Emulator-Ulink2-USB-JTAG-Adapter-NEW-Upgrade-/180495313217?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item2a065be941#ht_500wt_1073 May 01 13:29:41 from .cz May 01 13:29:45 the world of jtag is a quagmire of devices, firmwares and proprietry codes etc. it is so confusing! May 01 13:29:48 so no tax May 01 13:31:52 olimex are another good supplier May 01 13:32:40 http://olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-tiny.html May 01 13:33:05 The reason I'm curious about the dlp-usb1232h is the ft2232h chip. Im not sure on the details but all the new devices that are appearing with adaptive-clocking (RCLK) are based on ft2232h. RCLK allows better stability when device changes clock speed (power management etc) May 01 13:33:49 e.g. jtagkey-2 uses it: http://www.amontec.com/jtagkey2.shtml May 01 13:34:13 http://olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-tiny-h.html May 01 13:34:25 "High speed USB 2.0 with lower lattency time, RTCK adaptive JTAG clock up to 30Mhz and higher throughput achieve x3-x5 times faster programming speed than ARM-USB-TINY, can be used with all ARM devices for programming and debugging." May 01 13:34:58 or RTCLK rather May 01 13:35:07 yes I hear Olimex are good May 01 13:35:12 39 EUR May 01 13:35:24 thats not bad May 01 13:36:31 hmm, I wonder when it says 2.0-5.0V if that means it cannot do 1.8V targets May 01 13:37:17 there is a dude in Ukraine who clones all the olimex stuff May 01 13:37:23 it is cheaper May 01 13:37:32 I would like to see inside that Olimex device, I bet adding RTCLK support to it is fairly simple May 01 13:37:44 (and mainly done in software on host) May 01 13:41:05 does the Ukranian guy chat here? May 01 15:32:33 bodksi: no, it is a seller, I'll look up his site when I get back May 01 15:33:06 ok thanks a lot, good chatting with you :) May 01 23:46:17 just downloaded oocd0.4.0 installed libftdi0.17 on slackware but can't get it to work. added rules to udev as found on the web bus i'm still getting "unable to fetch product description". can anyone help me? May 02 00:21:53 #quit **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 02 02:59:56 2010