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Dec 18 09:26:27 <flopflip_> moin
Dec 18 09:35:29 <flopflip_> one generell question, is it possible to use openocd to flash AVRs? (I do have an openocd-usb adapter from embedded projects laying around, but am clueless)
Dec 18 13:57:58 <roxfan> afaik avrs use SPI, not JTAG
Dec 18 14:23:57 <steve|m> the smaller avrs only support SPI-like ISP, the larger ones (>= ATmega16) support ISP and JTAG
Dec 18 14:24:19 <steve|m> urjtag has AVR JTAG support afaik
Dec 18 14:26:39 <steve|m> but avrdude also has support for an "avrftdi" ISP programmer, which should be quite easy to modify for your ftdi jtag adapter
Dec 18 14:30:33 <flopflip_> okie thx
Dec 18 14:31:15 <flopflip_> can you point me to some documentation that is easy to understand for non electronic firm ppl?
Dec 18 14:32:30 <steve|m> regarding what? ISP?
Dec 18 14:34:09 <flopflip_> to get a good overview how to use jtag and stuff
Dec 18 14:34:16 <flopflip_> and ISP :)
Dec 18 14:35:49 <flopflip_> basicly we are bunch of computer science students with alot of ppl like: "it has usb, so why is it not programmable via usb?" questions :/
Dec 18 14:37:08 <steve|m> hm, I don't remember a hitchkickers guide to JTAG, but there are USB bootloaders out there.. but the initial flashing of the bootloader needs to be done via ISP/JTAG
Dec 18 14:37:22 <steve|m> which atmega do you have?
Dec 18 14:37:32 <flopflip_> rzraven kit 
Dec 18 14:38:07 <flopflip_> basicly there are several good tutorials, all assumeing being familiar with our jtag
Dec 18 14:38:54 <flopflip_> *your
Dec 18 14:39:58 <steve|m> I have an atmel AVR dragon ISP/JTAG programmer which is supported by avrdude
Dec 18 14:40:08 <steve|m> I never really used it for debugging, just for flashing
Dec 18 14:40:24 <flopflip_> yeah, that is what we need (basicl)
Dec 18 14:40:31 <flopflip_> y key sticking :/
Dec 18 14:41:06 <flopflip_> we are getting hardware from different ppl (donations) and need to get along with it
Dec 18 14:41:43 <flopflip_> our focus is on the 802.15.4 stuff
Dec 18 14:42:04 <flopflip_> so, just getting it on the chip is what we need, and am kinda blind to find good ways
Dec 18 14:43:23 <steve|m> if the raven also has a ISP header, you could use any random isp programmer
Dec 18 14:43:51 <flopflip_> okie, do you recommend usbprog? as it looks like a good choice for me
Dec 18 14:44:35 <flopflip_> but as i said, i am fairly new to the topic
Dec 18 14:46:00 <flopflip_> http://www.embedded-projects.net/index.php?page_id=165 it is, i only have the openocd-usb here, but have no idea whether it works for avr 
Dec 18 15:06:30 <steve|m> sounds good, that one should be supported by avrdude
Dec 18 15:06:43 <steve|m> http://www.embedded-projects.net/index.php?page_id=178
Dec 18 15:07:56 <steve|m> http://ostendorf.com/notebook/programming-rzraven.html
Dec 18 15:10:16 <flopflip_> thx alot :)
Dec 18 16:45:52 <mindThomas> Hi
Dec 18 21:17:20 <mindThomas> hi
Dec 18 22:32:13 <mindThomas> Anyone who knows this error from OpenOCD? can't request a halt while in reset if nSRST pulls nTRST
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