**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 29 02:59:58 2008
Aug 29 03:07:43 <ace_> no browser devels around?
Aug 29 03:15:27 <sirkha_top> anyone have illume going on a gentoo box with Xephyr?
Aug 29 04:05:35 <abraxa_> ace_: Zecke wrote the webkit browser for 2007.2 so you're best off writing him a mail
Aug 29 04:32:35 <ace_> thx abra :)
Aug 29 04:33:58 <abraxa_> You got his mail addy, right?
Aug 29 04:34:10 <abraxa_> He's all over the devel list
Aug 29 05:36:44 * rwhitby sees if firefox will build for the fso feeds
Aug 29 05:37:22 <rwhitby> Quadduc: which mokomakefile wiki page is incorrect?  I'll fix it now.
Aug 29 05:38:57 <paulproteus> rwhitby, FWIW iceweasel runs fine from Debian. (-:
Aug 29 05:43:08 <rwhitby> paulproteus: if I could get Debian to run on the GTA01, then I'd be there ...
Aug 29 05:43:22 <paulproteus> rwhitby, I haven't tried - do you know what the problems are?
Aug 29 05:43:28 <paulproteus> I'm curious to try it; I have a GTA01 also....
Aug 29 05:43:32 <paulproteus> (and a GTA02, admittedly)
Aug 29 07:46:13 <rwhitby> hmm - firefox failed to build on fso
Aug 29 07:59:51 <rwhitby> firefox failure is:
Aug 29 07:59:53 <rwhitby> In file included from xpidl.c:42:
Aug 29 07:59:54 <rwhitby> xpidl.h:49:18: error: glib.h: No such file or directory
Aug 29 07:59:54 <rwhitby> xpidl.h:53:24: error: libIDL/IDL.h: No such file or directory
Aug 29 08:00:12 <rwhitby> anyone know which -dev packages contain those for OE?
Aug 29 08:00:40 <rwhitby> (or which DEPENDS are missing?)  mickey|zzZZzz ??
Aug 29 08:12:26 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * r643fd8141662 10/illume/illume/ (a-25.png a-26.png a-27.png a-28.png a-29.png a-30.png): illume theme: Sync with upstream illume theme to get gsm operator changes. Add needed images.
Aug 29 08:12:26 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * r850c2a1c1987 10/sounds/ (notify_charging.wav notify_discharging.wav): Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:artwork
Aug 29 08:17:23 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * r2e284479719a 10/illume/illume/freerunner.edc: illume theme: Now really commit changes to the theme file
Aug 29 08:42:52 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * rf72c1382bd10 10/data/images/ (5 files): add missing buttons
Aug 29 10:47:57 <rwhitby> nm - the firefox build error was because preferred-om-2008-versions.inc pins firefox at 1.0.7
Aug 29 10:48:23 * rwhitby tries to build firefox *3* now for fso feeds
Aug 29 11:55:13 <rwhitby> Ainulindale, wurp2|gone: ping
Aug 29 11:55:41 <rwhitby> is Lucas from bearstech here?
Aug 29 12:07:01 <Ainulindale> rwhitby: No he's not here
Aug 29 12:07:04 <Ainulindale> But he's on the french channel
Aug 29 12:07:58 <Ainulindale> Here he is
Aug 29 12:08:10 <lukhas> rwhitby: you summon me, I appear
Aug 29 12:08:23 <Ainulindale> *poof*
Aug 29 12:09:01 <rwhitby> lukhas: we may need some more disk space on the shr autobuilder :-)
Aug 29 12:09:13 <lukhas> oh
Aug 29 12:09:15 <lukhas> already ?
Aug 29 12:09:21 <rwhitby> Ainulindale: I'm working on shr image now
Aug 29 12:09:31 <rwhitby> lukhas: 77% - early warning ...
Aug 29 12:09:36 <lukhas> oh yeah, you're almost full
Aug 29 12:09:49 <Ainulindale> rwhitby: Ok that's nice :-)
Aug 29 12:10:11 <Ainulindale> rwhitby: the package for libframeworkd-glib need to be modified though, as now it's on freesmartphone git
Aug 29 12:10:16 <Ainulindale> +s
Aug 29 12:11:03 <rwhitby> Ainulindale: I think we want to get rid of shr.bbclass
Aug 29 12:11:09 <Ainulindale> Why ?
Aug 29 12:11:23 <Ainulindale> Doesn't it have a meaning ?
Aug 29 12:11:32 <rwhitby> they should be packages that will work natively in OE
Aug 29 12:11:54 <Ainulindale> the class is just a master class for the repository address, nothing more
Aug 29 12:12:08 <Ainulindale> It also has a meaning for development purposes
Aug 29 12:12:51 <rwhitby> The SRC_URI makes an assumption about how shr is being built
Aug 29 12:13:15 <rwhitby> I don't think you can have an OE recipe depend upon using a specific SHR makefile directory layout
Aug 29 12:14:02 <Ainulindale> An assumption ?
Aug 29 12:14:05 <Ainulindale> Which assumption ?
Aug 29 12:14:22 <rwhitby> TOPDIR being defined
Aug 29 12:14:29 <Ainulindale> Hmmmm
Aug 29 12:14:36 <Ainulindale> I didn't build this class
Aug 29 12:14:36 <rwhitby> it's not an OE variable, just a fso makefile variable
Aug 29 12:14:59 <rwhitby> understood, I'm not blaming anyone - it's a good way to start, but not a good long term solution in my opinion
Aug 29 12:15:04 <Ainulindale> If you think this is unnecessary and you have more correct answers about this kind of factorization I'm interested
Aug 29 12:16:02 <rwhitby> The SHR_RELEASE and SHR_MIRROR is usually done in the conf/distro/<DISTRO>.conf file
Aug 29 12:16:27 <Ainulindale> That's what I thought but I didn't know which end I should begin with
Aug 29 12:16:58 <rwhitby> Let me talk with mickey|zzZZzz next time I see him about how to do this properly for both fso and shr
Aug 29 12:17:15 <rwhitby> (since fso will want to modify some openmoko stuff to use the shr.bearstech.com feeds)
Aug 29 12:51:23 <rwhitby> firefox should appear in fso feeds soon
Aug 29 12:51:33 <rwhitby> (i.e. next hour or so)
Aug 29 12:52:57 <edistar> firefox?!
Aug 29 12:54:36 <sicu> nice
Aug 29 12:55:57 <rwhitby> I haven't run it yet, but someone on the mailing list said it ran ok
Aug 29 12:56:07 <rwhitby> and it builds cleanly at least ...
Aug 29 12:59:28 <rwhitby> tichy just built too, so I'll add it to the feeds as well
Aug 29 14:55:59 <aleix> hi
Aug 29 14:59:26 <Sargun_screen> hi
Aug 29 15:02:28 <edistar> hi!
Aug 29 17:13:15 <AntonTakk> anyone happen to have any experience working with libebook?
Aug 29 17:21:35 <wurp2|working> AntonTakk: No, sorry
Aug 29 17:27:55 <aleix> hi
Aug 29 17:47:42 <wurp2|working> hi aleix 
Aug 29 17:47:54 <aleix> wurp2|working: hey
Aug 29 17:49:09 <aleix> wurp2|working: just read your email. do you have the address of the trac site?
Aug 29 17:49:25 <wurp2|working> Let me find it
Aug 29 17:49:43 <wurp2|working> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/milestone/SHR
Aug 29 17:49:49 <wurp2|working> It's on the bottom of the SHR page
Aug 29 17:50:33 <aleix> wurp2|working: ops... that's right.
Aug 29 17:51:44 <aleix> wurp2|working: btw, yesterday night I removed all my dev environment and started from scratch, it seems the instructions on the wiki are right.
Aug 29 17:52:09 <wurp2|working> That's great news
Aug 29 17:52:36 <wurp2|working> The build procedure before was "make shit up & pray"
Aug 29 17:52:41 <wurp2|working> which is not my first choice
Aug 29 17:52:46 <aleix> :-)
Aug 29 17:53:13 <wurp2|working> Ainulindale and MarcOChapeau had it down pat how to do it
Aug 29 17:53:43 <wurp2|working> But I think they evolved their procedure, and didn't have time afterwards to document it thoroughly - they were too busy building dialer3
Aug 29 17:53:51 <aleix> wurp2|working: down pat? (sorry for my english)
Aug 29 17:54:02 <wurp2|working> Oh, sorry
Aug 29 17:54:17 <wurp2|working> They knew the build procedure well
Aug 29 17:54:28 <wurp2|working> "down pat" is slang.  I got lazy.
Aug 29 17:55:01 <aleix> i imagined it for the context... didn't know that one :-)
Aug 29 17:55:19 <wurp2|working> I have no idea of the origin
Aug 29 17:55:29 <wurp2|working> The words themselves make no sense to mean what they mean :-)
Aug 29 17:55:41 <wurp2|working> American & English kids play "patty cake"
Aug 29 17:55:53 <aleix> :-?
Aug 29 17:56:08 <wurp2|working> Maybe it's a reference to having learned patty cake well
Aug 29 17:56:15 <aleix> hehehehe
Aug 29 17:56:22 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: oh, so you were the one looking for the trac :-)
Aug 29 17:56:23 <wurp2|working> Just a kids' game; I was speculating on the origin of the phrase
Aug 29 17:56:45 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: hehehe, yeah that's me
Aug 29 17:57:31 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: wurp2|working told me... its already in the page
Aug 29 17:58:38 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: I found your mail to be quite funny... you seemed to be describing exactly what trac is :-p
Aug 29 17:59:01 <aleix> btw, I have found an issue with the new procedure. Currently, bitbake packages version are PV = "0.0.1+svnr${SRCDATE}"
Aug 29 17:59:01 <aleix>  
Aug 29 17:59:41 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: yep, I didn't pay enough attention to the page and didn't see there was a trac system
Aug 29 17:59:47 <nigelTheBold> wurp2|working: I think the origins have something to do with a "pat hand" in poker.
Aug 29 17:59:48 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: sorry
Aug 29 18:00:20 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: I understand people can get lost in all this... it's just the same for the dev environment
Aug 29 18:01:54 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: yes, this is my second week around and sometimes I get a bit lost
Aug 29 18:02:39 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: did you have time to read about the dev environment?
Aug 29 18:06:18 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * r2fa62b9e6b8c 10/odeviced/src/daemon/plugin.vala: Resolve plugin symbols lazily and keep them local to the respective plugins
Aug 29 18:06:18 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * r5cedbf9faec7 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/ (Makefile.am power-helpers.h power.vala): Use Kernel Uevents to receive power_supply notifications via netlink. Removes the need for the evil polling of battery status
Aug 29 18:06:58 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: neither read nor write about it...
Aug 29 18:07:52 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: I sent an email yesterday, the instructions are now in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Development
Aug 29 18:08:20 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: I also updated the svn repo accordingly
Aug 29 18:08:25 <MarcOChapeau> ah, those
Aug 29 18:08:32 <aleix> yep
Aug 29 18:08:39 <MarcOChapeau> right I saw the email, but didn't get a chance to test yet
Aug 29 18:09:05 <aleix> ok
Aug 29 18:09:55 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * rf6b2cddd36c3 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/power-helpers.c: oops...forgot to git add
Aug 29 18:10:42 <aleix> i found out that with the current bitbake package versions PV = "0.0.1+svnr${SRCDATE}", a package will be automatically re-built every day as it depends on the date
Aug 29 18:11:04 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: and I think that's a pretty stupid feature...
Aug 29 18:11:31 <MarcOChapeau> I could understand a dependency on the rev number, but not on the date
Aug 29 18:11:48 <MarcOChapeau> I believe most openmoko autobuilds do things like that
Aug 29 18:11:58 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: so, may I change all packages PV?
Aug 29 18:12:02 <MarcOChapeau> it's nonsense, and unnecessary updates
Aug 29 18:12:10 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: sure you can !
Aug 29 18:12:18 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: let's try to make things better
Aug 29 18:12:51 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: I'd rather ask at the beginning, I don't want to break anything :-)
Aug 29 18:14:06 <MarcOChapeau> aleix: you can't imagine how broken my own code probably is :-D
Aug 29 18:14:23 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: so a bit more will not hurt much ;-)
Aug 29 18:14:35 <MarcOChapeau> right :-p
Aug 29 18:15:33 <aleix> MarcOChapeau: ok, then I will remove the  svnr${SRCDATE} part
Aug 29 18:15:34 <pb__> aleix: you can pin down SRCDATE to a particular date in local.conf, rather than letting it float, which will avoid the daily rebuilds.
Aug 29 18:16:58 <aleix> pb__: mmmm, that's another option, but may be it would be better to change it in shr.bbclass
Aug 29 18:17:44 <pb__> yeah, either would work.  changing SRCDATE does have the advantage that it will fix everything, not just shr packages, but that might not be an issue for you.
Aug 29 18:18:42 <pb__> it probably is a bit of a misfeature that oe has a completely floating SRCDATE by default.  we did talk at one point about making it default to the timestamp of local.conf or some such, or having it pick a date the first time you ran it and freeze that into a file, but I don't think that ever happened.
Aug 29 18:19:49 <aleix> pb__: I see. And what about just removing SRCDATE from PV?
Aug 29 18:20:09 <aleix> pb__: that was my initial idea until you said it was possible to fix it
Aug 29 18:20:18 <pb__> aleix: whether that is a good idea or not depends on what your SRC_URI is set to.
Aug 29 18:20:36 <pb__> and, to some extent, on what you plan to do with the resulting binaries.
Aug 29 18:21:11 <aleix> pb__: SRC_URI := "file://${TOPDIR}/shr/${PN}"
Aug 29 18:21:11 <aleix>  
Aug 29 18:21:54 <aleix> so it finds SHR in local drive, but bitbake is using PV for the destination directory
Aug 29 18:21:58 <aleix> and others
Aug 29 18:22:43 <aleix> this is how i found shr packages were being re-build (i built them yesterday and today got re-built)
Aug 29 18:22:57 <pb__> oh right, yeah
Aug 29 18:23:06 <pb__> in that case, it probably does make sense to just remove SRCDATE from ${PV}
Aug 29 18:23:22 <aleix> I think SRC_URI is ok, it just not depend on any version
Aug 29 18:23:37 <aleix> pb__: yep
Aug 29 18:23:50 <aleix> pb__: great then. thank you very much
Aug 29 18:24:31 <pb__> ok, cool
Aug 29 18:47:35 <MarcOChapeau> pb__: I guess the idea would be to have packages on the build host that are up to date with a certain svn rev number. people using the package feed will then be sure that when an update comes, it's a "real" update and not just a stupid nightly rebuild
Aug 29 19:48:03 <TeLLuS> Hi, any special reason we do not fix resolv.conf DNS in OM2008.8?   I added the missing files and changed the link make it work when I test it on the wireless..   Atleast one time.. because of the dhcp issue but that is the next issue.
Aug 29 20:09:30 <b0ef> I'm on debian and every time I want to upgrade, it wants to install the xserver-xorg-input-tslib, which doesn't work right. I use the old xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb which works fine, but why is this not in the debian repo, if the other one just doesn't work?
Aug 29 20:10:01 <lindi-> b0ef: is the bug in bugs.debian.org?
Aug 29 20:10:24 <b0ef> lindi-: well, I thought this would be well known if everyone uses this deb;)
Aug 29 20:11:11 <b0ef> lindi-: you don't use it?
Aug 29 20:15:03 <lindi-> b0ef: i still use xglamo binary
Aug 29 20:16:08 <b0ef> lindi-: right, I'll file the bug then
Aug 29 20:19:03 <kuzgun> how can I understand whether there is a active call in which the user involved? for 2007.2 and/or ASU
Aug 29 20:19:26 <lindi-> b0ef: it's good also since users then know about it the issue
Aug 29 20:24:35 <tmzt__> lindi: I got the xserver-xfbdev to build in qemubuilder but it took a few changes to debian/rules and debian/control
Aug 29 20:24:54 <tmzt__> the suggestion was made to build mesa-gl for armel which I have not looked at
Aug 29 20:25:17 <tmzt__> lindi-:
Aug 29 20:25:20 <wurp2|working> kuzgun: For 2007.2, monitor the phonekit dbus events, I think.  For ASU (the qtopia port), I have no idea, but lpotter would know.
Aug 29 20:26:05 <tmzt__> based on that, if there is source for Xglamo it may be possible to build a variant of kdrive for that?
Aug 29 20:26:31 <lindi-> tmzt__: yes i read your(?) mailing list post, i'm just busy to follow
Aug 29 20:28:46 <tmzt__> no, not mine
Aug 29 20:28:53 <tmzt__> what list?
Aug 29 20:29:25 <Quadduc> I'm trying to install my own MokoMakefile build of libgsmd, but using opkg install on the .ipk I get "Package libgsmd md5sum mismatch." How to get around this?
Aug 29 20:29:38 <balrog-k1n> abraxa_: ping
Aug 29 20:30:47 <abraxa_> balrog-k1n: I'm here, what's up?
Aug 29 20:31:49 <balrog-k1n> abraxa_: someone asks me to post an mplayer binary online so they can try it without compiling, i just thouhg i'd post both mine and the one i got from you
Aug 29 20:31:54 <balrog-k1n> abraxa_: would that be ok?
Aug 29 20:32:13 <abraxa_> balrog-k1n: Of course
Aug 29 20:32:37 <balrog-k1n> cheers
Aug 29 20:33:47 <abraxa_> Hey, it's your work, I'm happy to help if I can
Aug 29 20:36:39 <balrog-k1n> abraxa_: :)
Aug 29 20:37:08 <balrog-k1n> abraxa_: it's also to show that it is compilable, not only on my computer :p
Aug 29 20:37:20 <abraxa_> hehe alright
Aug 29 20:37:52 <tmzt__> lindi-: nomeata: does the xglamo on -standards use xorg.conf?
Aug 29 20:37:52 <abraxa_> I used a bb recipe to compile, albeit there's one manual step involved that is quite mysterious to me
Aug 29 21:02:12 <retracile> Using pygtk, is there a "correct" way to tell the window manager to raise another application's window to the top of the stack?
Aug 29 21:02:34 <retracile> (I'm currently spawning "wmctrl -a ....", and figure there's a better way.)
Aug 29 21:03:13 <retracile> And secondly, using pygtk, how does an application know that it has just been raised to the top of the stack?
Aug 29 21:03:57 <retracile> (Pointers to docs that answer those kinds of questions are also welcome.)
Aug 29 21:07:12 <balrog-k1n> abraxa_: what is it?
Aug 29 21:10:49 <abraxa_> balrog-k1n: The mplayer makefile uses codec-cfg to build codecs.conf.h from etc/codecs.conf. Using my bb recipe however, codecs.conf.h is zero bytes long. If codec-cfg is called manually in the work dir, it works
Aug 29 21:10:54 <dcordes> somebody eager to help porting frameworkd to qualcomm msm7200 and similar chipsets' modems?
Aug 29 21:11:16 <dcordes> (maybe some persons with recent htc devices present?)
Aug 29 21:12:55 <balrog-k1n> abraxa_: strange indeed :p
Aug 29 21:27:40 <edistar> hi
Aug 29 21:40:37 <darkjames> Hi.
Aug 29 21:44:31 <flohack> Hi! I can't build qtopia-phone from the org.openmoko.asu.stable branch. It always gives me the following error: ERROR: Invalid value for option "device": -xplatform
Aug 29 21:44:41 <flohack> Any ideas?
Aug 29 21:45:55 <flohack> Here is the full log: http://pastebin.com/d32a2e8fc
Aug 29 21:50:12 <flohack> Is the qtopia-phone_4.3.1.bb the correct version? Shouldn't be qtopia-phone-x11_git.bb the one to use?
Aug 29 21:50:47 <edistar> flohack: qtopia x11 is ASU/2008.8
Aug 29 21:51:32 <flohack> That's why I consider it strange that the qtopia-phone_4.3.1.bb is used, although I'm on the org.openmoko.asu.stable branch
Aug 29 21:52:01 <edistar> qtopia-phone image != 2008.8/asu
Aug 29 21:52:32 <flohack> ok, which would be the package to build if I want to patch qtopia-x11?
Aug 29 21:53:07 <edistar> qtopia-x11-image or so
Aug 29 21:53:26 <flohack> I don't want to build the whole image, I just want the qtopia package rebuilt
Aug 29 21:54:39 <flohack> Hmm...make build-package-qtopia-phone-x11 at least seems to go in the right direction (unpackage the x11 qtopia branch from git)
Aug 29 21:58:15 <flohack> How do I have to proceed to apply a patch to qtopia? I'm working on the echo suppression issue BTW
Aug 29 21:58:41 <flohack> I mean where can I find the source and how can I tell bitbake to use the modified source?
Aug 30 01:06:03 <Quadduc> I'm trying to opkg install -force-downgrade my own openmoko-dialer2 .ipk, but opkg says "Package openmoko-dialer2 (1:0.1.0+svnr4611-r8) installed in root is up to date." Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Aug 30 01:08:35 <Quadduc> If, instead, I say -force-reinstall, it says "Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/openmoko-dialer2_0.1.0+svnr4611-r8_om-gta02.ipk". Why is it insisting on downloading? I want to install the local .ipk!
Aug 30 01:10:02 <edistar> Quadduc: opkg remove .. then opkg install foo.ipk
Aug 30 01:12:31 <Quadduc> edistar: OK, I do opkg remove -force-depends openmoko-dialer2, then opkg install my-own-openmoko-dialer2.ipk, still it wants to download.
Aug 30 01:13:10 <edistar> Quadduc: then either a download link is included in your .ipk or..
Aug 30 01:14:35 <Quadduc> edistar: Well, all data files are in the .ipk, so it shouldn't have to dl anything.
Aug 30 01:15:26 <Quadduc> Also, opkg says "Multiple packages (openmoko-dialer2 and openmoko-dialer2) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest." but that hasn't stopped me before.
Aug 30 01:15:34 <edistar> hm
Aug 30 01:15:39 <edistar> sry, can't help you there
Aug 30 01:19:58 <neolynx> edistar: I have another strange problem on debian
Aug 30 01:20:10 <neolynx> /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1311]: gsm0710muxd.c:1645:start_muxer(): Modem does not respond to AT commands, trying close mux mode
Aug 30 01:20:23 <neolynx> evil gsmmux
Aug 30 01:20:47 <neolynx> any ideas how to debug this ? it worked yesterday
Aug 30 01:22:36 <edistar> neolynx: reboot? :D
Aug 30 01:22:47 <neolynx> nope
Aug 30 01:23:04 <neolynx> 2008 works, but I have somehow screwed the debian
Aug 30 01:23:11 <edistar> hm
Aug 30 01:23:26 <edistar> afaik you had to do something with udev settings to get access to the gsm modem
Aug 30 01:23:27 <neolynx> should /dev/ttySAC0 respond to AT command
Aug 30 01:23:37 <edistar> yes
Aug 30 01:23:39 <neolynx> with no gssmmux or anything running ?
Aug 30 01:24:07 <edistar> yes
Aug 30 01:24:09 <edistar> definitely
Aug 30 01:24:17 <neolynx> I did a apt upgrade, I configured bt, wifi and apm
Aug 30 01:24:29 <neolynx> well, it refuses to talk to me
Aug 30 01:24:37 <neolynx> which kernel module does the gsm part ?
Aug 30 01:25:55 <edistar> good question
Aug 30 01:26:26 <tmzt> s3c platform devices/drivers?
Aug 30 01:26:41 <neolynx> I tried to address the echo cancellation and installed a newer gsmmux
Aug 30 01:27:01 <neolynx> gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+gitr6-...ipk
Aug 30 01:27:14 <neolynx> but even with the original one it doesn't work
Aug 30 01:27:28 <neolynx> maybe some config changes/default config for that ?
Aug 30 01:27:33 <edistar> /dev/ttySAC0 does not react at all?
Aug 30 01:28:22 <neolynx> killed gsmmux
Aug 30 01:28:27 <neolynx> zhone stopped
Aug 30 01:28:30 <neolynx> fso stopped
Aug 30 01:29:04 <neolynx> gps stopped
Aug 30 01:29:13 <neolynx> nothing runns..
Aug 30 01:29:32 <neolynx> minicom, Port /dev/ttySAC0
Aug 30 01:29:36 <neolynx> no reaction...
Aug 30 01:29:40 <dcordes_> moo
Aug 30 01:29:54 <edistar> dcordes_: moo
Aug 30 01:30:04 <edistar> neolynx: talk to it in AT language..
Aug 30 01:30:22 <neolynx> at and no reaction
Aug 30 01:30:27 <neolynx> I speak AT :)
Aug 30 01:30:44 <dcordes_> I assume you configured minicom correctly?
Aug 30 01:30:47 <neolynx> dmesg only says: modem wakeup interrupt
Aug 30 01:31:03 <neolynx>     | A -    Serial Device      : /dev/ttySAC0                              |
Aug 30 01:31:08 <neolynx>    | E -    Bps/Par/Bits       : 115200 8N1                                |
Aug 30 01:31:08 <neolynx>  
Aug 30 01:31:10 <neolynx> ?
Aug 30 01:31:30 <neolynx> it worked before like this...
Aug 30 01:32:14 <edistar> sure that no process is using it?
Aug 30 01:32:28 <neolynx> how to verify ?
Aug 30 01:33:04 <dcordes_> lsof | grep ttySAC0
Aug 30 01:33:24 <neolynx> of course :)
Aug 30 01:33:26 <neolynx> no nothing
Aug 30 01:35:22 <mwester> Did you power it up?
Aug 30 01:36:13 <neolynx> the gsm chip ? how ?
Aug 30 01:36:41 <neolynx> I saw messages from gsmmux saying cann power antenna
Aug 30 01:42:03 <tmzt> /var/lock/ ?
Aug 30 01:44:02 <neolynx> empty
Aug 30 01:44:26 <edistar> n8
Aug 30 01:44:50 <tmzt> if you don't have a mux over top of the serial port, it will still do AT?
Aug 30 01:45:40 <neolynx> think so
Aug 30 01:49:27 <neolynx> how can I install libgsmd-tool ?
Aug 30 02:29:42 <dcordes_> neolynx: use opkg?
Aug 30 02:29:45 <dcordes_> ipkg
Aug 30 02:29:59 <neolynx> dpkg
Aug 30 02:30:03 <neolynx> all the same :)
Aug 30 02:30:18 <tmzt> dpkg for debian, opkg replaces ipkg for familiar/oe/angstrom
Aug 30 02:30:19 <dcordes_> oh right than steal it from the angstrom repository if you are looking for arm binaries
Aug 30 02:30:57 <neolynx> ok
Aug 30 02:31:00 <tmzt> they all can install type 2 debian packages
Aug 30 02:31:04 <neolynx> would be helpful debugging..
Aug 30 02:31:08 <dcordes_> om-gta02?
Aug 30 02:31:17 <neolynx> jap
Aug 30 02:31:35 <neolynx> with debian
Aug 30 02:31:37 <dcordes_> don't you have the framework image?
Aug 30 02:31:43 <neolynx> but zhone stopped working..
Aug 30 02:31:52 <dcordes_> do you use gsmd?
Aug 30 02:32:04 <neolynx> the om2008 image works
Aug 30 02:32:09 <neolynx> no gsmd running
Aug 30 02:32:34 <dcordes_> I just wonder if libgsmd-tools is what you want
Aug 30 02:32:36 <dcordes_> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=libgsmd-tools
Aug 30 02:32:43 <neolynx> Modem does not respond to AT commands, trying close mux mode
Aug 30 02:32:59 <neolynx> cool,thanks
Aug 30 02:33:15 <neolynx> I want to understand why it worked, and now it doesn't
Aug 30 02:33:15 <dcordes_> did you deboostrap a lenny arm?
Aug 30 02:33:35 <dcordes_> and installed the framework packages?
Aug 30 02:35:32 <neolynx>  package architecture (armv4t) does not match system (armel)
Aug 30 02:35:36 <neolynx> is this a problem ?
Aug 30 02:35:47 <neolynx> I installed fso-frameworkd
Aug 30 02:36:04 <neolynx> I followed the debian installation in the wiki, debootstrap
Aug 30 02:36:14 <neolynx> then it worked,
Aug 30 02:36:27 <neolynx> but after configuring wifi, gps, ...
Aug 30 02:36:32 <neolynx> it stopped
Aug 30 02:36:41 <neolynx> and I didnt mess around that much
Aug 30 02:37:46 <dcordes_> is the modem in any respect connected with gps?
Aug 30 02:38:06 <dcordes_> did you get a prebuilt rootfs and compare with yours?
Aug 30 02:38:13 <dcordes_> if available
Aug 30 02:39:52 <neolynx> how can I verify this ?
Aug 30 02:40:01 <neolynx> I configured gps
Aug 30 02:40:14 <neolynx> gpsd running
Aug 30 02:40:22 <neolynx> is that a problem ?
Aug 30 02:41:22 <dcordes_> I don't know. perhaps get everything unneeded out the way
Aug 30 02:41:35 <dcordes_> get back to the deboostrap
Aug 30 02:41:45 <tmzt> have they switched to fso-gpsd?
Aug 30 02:41:45 <neolynx> that's what I'm trying, no success so far
Aug 30 02:41:50 <dcordes_> ..rootfs. see what you did to destroy the functionality
Aug 30 02:42:07 <neolynx> trying hard :)
Aug 30 02:42:11 <neolynx> but need sleep
Aug 30 02:42:45 <neolynx> :)
Aug 30 02:44:05 <dcordes_> who needs sleep?
Aug 30 02:44:31 <neolynx> :)
Aug 30 02:45:16 <neolynx> n8
Aug 30 02:45:25 <neolynx> & thanks :)
Aug 30 02:45:45 <dcordes_> n8
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