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Aug 31 06:51:36 <sylar91> hi all
Aug 31 06:52:40 <sylar91> I want to create a simple software but I don't know if it is better to program it with qt or e17 libs
Aug 31 08:53:52 <sylar91> how can I show the cursor in om 2008.8?
Aug 31 09:28:25 <w_erase> I'm trying to  build SHR with the new makefile. The instructions say "Download the FSO/SHR Makefile and common directory from Bearstech"... is there some .tgz or SVN checkout command to do that ? Downloading files by hand is pain .. Did I miss something ? 
Aug 31 09:50:05 <jfrousval> w_erase, I think you speak french, can you connect on #openmoko-fr ?
Aug 31 10:48:35 <quickdev> Hey
Aug 31 11:01:48 <rwhitby> w_erase: wget has a nice mirror option which can get the 'common' subdir for you, which contains the Makefile too.
Aug 31 11:55:14 <w_erase> rwhitby, I'll try that... That should work !
Aug 31 12:50:11 <edistar> how is SHR going?
Aug 31 12:59:45 <sylar91> hi, somebody could help me plz?
Aug 31 12:59:57 <sylar91> I get this error "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
Aug 31 15:25:58 <pete_b1> hi
Aug 31 15:26:19 <pete_b1> im having problems building fso from source
Aug 31 15:26:28 <pete_b1> python evas fails
Aug 31 15:33:23 <andreas__> quit
Aug 31 16:19:52 <quickdev> ey
Aug 31 16:19:54 <quickdev> Hey
Aug 31 16:48:45 <edistar> hi
Aug 31 16:49:10 <edistar> freundin hat sich gestern so ueber div. artikel in stupidedia schlapp gelacht ;)
Aug 31 17:09:02 <quickdev> wurp2|working, here?
Aug 31 17:43:32 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * r912ba4580f72 10/odeviced/src/plugins/input/ (input-helpers.c input-helpers.h input.plugin input.vala): 
Aug 31 17:43:32 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: added charger and headset events.
Aug 31 17:43:32 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: refactor code a bit
Aug 31 17:43:32 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: FIXME: the high CPU usage still needs to be fixed
Aug 31 17:43:32 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: FIXED: idlenotifier and input plugins works together now (hopefully
Aug 31 17:43:36 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: without problems)
Aug 31 18:56:15 <quickdev> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in.
Aug 31 18:56:17 <quickdev> Cannot continue.
Aug 31 18:56:22 <quickdev> Does anyone know what's the problem?
Aug 31 18:56:43 <edistar> quickdev: which image, what are you doing?
Aug 31 18:56:59 <bricode> Any uboot devs here?
Aug 31 18:57:34 <quickdev> edistar, I tried several fso images and two kernels. Could you suggest a working fso kernel + root fs?
Aug 31 18:58:34 <quickdev> ahh - on the neo console it's working.
Aug 31 18:58:41 <quickdev> edistar, and on the remote console it isn't
Aug 31 18:58:41 <edistar> quickdev: the stable ms2 image?
Aug 31 19:12:07 <nigelTheBold> quickdev: are you launching frameworkd from an SSH session, or from a terminal?
Aug 31 19:12:33 <quickdev> nigelTheBold, ssh session - that was the problem
Aug 31 19:12:35 <quickdev> any workaround?
Aug 31 19:12:39 <quickdev> what env variables to set?
Aug 31 19:12:52 <nigelTheBold> Yeah. You'll need to set up X access from your ssh session.
Aug 31 19:12:58 <nigelTheBold> Gimme a sec. I'm looking....
Aug 31 19:13:53 <nigelTheBold> quickdev: the fix is described at the bottom of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Today/2007.2
Aug 31 19:14:57 <nigelTheBold> At least, that's vaguely the fix I remember.
Aug 31 19:25:04 <quickdev> nigelTheBold, thx
Aug 31 19:31:07 <quickdev> nigelTheBold, have you some experiences with dbus?
Aug 31 19:31:15 <nigelTheBold> Not much.
Aug 31 19:31:24 <nigelTheBold> I've done some basic RPC with it.
Aug 31 19:31:26 <nigelTheBold> That's about it.
Aug 31 19:32:07 <nigelTheBold> Do you have a specific question?
Aug 31 19:32:43 <quickdev> nigelTheBold, I think that's enough for my  problem. I'd like to call SendUssdRequest() on interface org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network and object org.freesmartphone.ogsmd.
Aug 31 19:32:44 <quickdev> My code:
Aug 31 19:34:06 <quickdev> nigelTheBold, http://rafb.net/p/8wIl6X72.html
Aug 31 19:34:19 <quickdev> code on the other side: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=framework/subsystems/ogsmd/objects.py;h=e0a0c0ae459797afa3000f70c97aed2eda98f4e2;hb=HEAD
Aug 31 19:35:17 <abraxa_> quickdev: Aside from the fact that you use dbus.Interface(object, ...) instead of dbus.Interface(proxy, ...), it looks fine to me
Aug 31 19:35:54 <nigelTheBold> Yep.
Aug 31 19:36:01 <nigelTheBold> You're fast, abraxa_.
Aug 31 19:36:28 <abraxa_> ...the qualities of a lurker ;)
Aug 31 19:37:06 <nigelTheBold> Yeah. I kept thinking: "That looks right. He's got the object right there...."
Aug 31 19:37:16 <quickdev> nigelTheBold, abraxa_, I haven't got much experience with dbus. What might be a proxy in my case? A different string?
Aug 31 19:37:24 <nigelTheBold> Then I realized 'object' wasn't even defined, but not 'til you mentioned it.
Aug 31 19:38:35 <quickdev> aaah :)
Aug 31 19:39:02 <quickdev> worked, what a silly fault.
Aug 31 19:39:06 <nigelTheBold> No problem.
Aug 31 19:39:10 <nigelTheBold> Happens to all of us.
Aug 31 19:39:13 <quickdev> (copied & pasted it) ;)
Aug 31 19:39:17 <nigelTheBold> Yep.
Aug 31 20:29:34 <quickdev> nigelTheBold, it's working now. Thanks.
Aug 31 20:29:48 <quickdev> alphaone, one minute for me?
Aug 31 20:37:55 <bricode> Is there any way to update the NAND flash using a userspace program on the phone?
Aug 31 20:38:32 <edistar> NAND?
Aug 31 20:38:40 <edistar> you can boot from sd and then mount the NAND
Aug 31 20:39:14 <bricode> edistar: Humm. Close.
Aug 31 20:39:38 <edistar> or do you mean uboot?
Aug 31 20:39:51 <edistar> that should be possible from userspace
Aug 31 20:40:01 <edistar> but hasn't been officially advocated
Aug 31 20:40:42 <bricode> edistar: I want to boot up from netwoork (supported in uboot, but I'm not sure about if wireless is supported), then ram an image into nand.
Aug 31 20:41:11 <edistar> wireless is not supported, but usb would be
Aug 31 20:41:13 <edistar> ah, okey
Aug 31 20:41:17 <edistar> sounds feasible
Aug 31 20:41:43 <bricode> edistar: Sounds crazy, I know, but there's a reason for it.
Aug 31 20:42:16 <edistar> well, not that crazy really..
Aug 31 20:42:34 <edistar> e.g. one might have a new image on the home server and boot from network to update
Aug 31 20:42:47 <bricode> edistar: Times a thousand :)
Aug 31 20:43:14 <edistar> hm?
Aug 31 20:43:19 <edistar> ah, of course
Aug 31 20:43:20 <edistar> yes
Aug 31 20:43:30 <edistar> deploying the same image in a company e.g.
Aug 31 20:43:41 <bricode> edistar: Yep.
Aug 31 20:43:54 <w_erase> Same as PXE remote boot isn't it ? 
Aug 31 20:44:24 <bricode> w_erase: Same sort of idea, yes. Clonezilla was pretty awesome for that type of stuff.
Aug 31 20:44:25 <edistar> w_erase: same principle, yes
Sep 01 02:45:23 <Ken_Young> Does anyone know if there is a function call one can issue that will turn the X11 display into a monochrome display, and if it would be possible to make it display only differing levels of red intensity?
Sep 01 02:56:01 <rwhitby> Ken_Young: night mode for orrery?
Sep 01 02:57:04 <Ken_Young> rwhitby, Yup!
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