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Oct 01 06:10:55 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r184cb9446b49 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
Oct 01 06:10:55 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: otapi: add SIM SMS Buffering methods to org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device:
Oct 01 06:10:55 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: * GetSimBuffersSms() -> (b)
Oct 01 06:10:55 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: * SetSimBuffersSms(b) -> ()
Oct 01 06:36:42 <quickdev> Hey
Oct 01 06:51:24 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r6de8ed9b33d8 10/xml/ (7 files): sync xml files w/ docs
Oct 01 06:52:28 <quickdev> mickey|tw, thanks
Oct 01 06:52:55 <mickey|tw> np
Oct 01 06:55:47 <CM_work> Ainulindale: About your linkedIn page, it's Developer, not Developper :-)
Oct 01 07:17:05 <Ainulindale> CM_work: I know, I've been lazy for a while though
Oct 01 07:17:07 <Ainulindale> But thanks :-)
Oct 01 07:22:12 <methril> morning
Oct 01 07:22:26 <quickdev> hey methril 
Oct 01 07:22:35 <methril> hey quickdev
Oct 01 07:22:49 <quickdev> got your coffee Ainulindale ? :)
Oct 01 07:39:49 <Ainulindale> Nope
Oct 01 07:39:52 <Ainulindale> Going to work now
Oct 01 07:39:56 <Ainulindale> See you in half an hour
Oct 01 08:19:04 <Ainulindale> quickdev: here I am
Oct 01 08:19:47 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I'm moving the phonegui stuff atm, no questions so far ;)
Oct 01 08:28:49 <Ainulindale> ok :-è)
Oct 01 08:35:24 <quickdev> Ainulindale, do you know where I can distribute my package if I'm ready?
Oct 01 08:48:50 <Ainulindale> your gui ?
Oct 01 08:50:51 <quickdev> Ainulindale, yes - and the other packages
Oct 01 08:51:04 <Ainulindale> Don't you have a shr access ?
Oct 01 08:51:23 <Ainulindale> If you commit there, and if we add your package to the image generation it will be compiled on the buildhost
Oct 01 08:52:51 <quickdev> ah, fine, didn't know that
Oct 01 08:53:07 <quickdev> I have shr access, yes
Oct 01 08:53:30 <quickdev> alphaone, here to answer a sms question? :)
Oct 01 10:12:33 <quickdev> Ainulindale, a few minutes for me?
Oct 01 10:48:19 <Ainulindale> quickdev: yes
Oct 01 11:04:03 <methril> there isn't a lot of traffic in the shr ml
Oct 01 11:05:55 <quickdev> Ainulindale, http://rafb.net/p/dCrQbV50.html
Oct 01 11:06:38 <quickdev> Ainulindale, although: -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0
Oct 01 11:08:03 <Ainulindale> g_error doesn't exist
Oct 01 11:08:32 <Ainulindale> (I suppose)
Oct 01 11:08:42 <quickdev> it does..
Oct 01 11:08:56 <quickdev> my ophonekitd compilation works
Oct 01 11:09:18 <quickdev> but not the dialer compilation
Oct 01 11:09:31 <Ainulindale> Right now I'm supposed to help my intern
Oct 01 11:09:36 <Ainulindale> I'll look into that in half an hour or so 
Oct 01 11:09:51 <quickdev> ok, would be great
Oct 01 11:49:22 <quickdev> Ainulindale, http://rafb.net/p/tvXRsd24.html -> have a look at "skipping incompatible". He looks in /usr/lib - and that's wrong of course..
Oct 01 11:53:51 <Ainulindale> Hmmm weird
Oct 01 11:54:11 <Ainulindale> I fear I won't be able to help you on that one
Oct 01 11:55:04 <quickdev> damn ;) AndreasD, have you ever experienced that error?
Oct 01 12:05:25 <AndreasD> quickdev: I've experienced that, but as it says it skips those files
Oct 01 12:05:52 <AndreasD> quickdev: can you give me the full log
Oct 01 12:09:04 <quickdev> AndreasD, I just realize that compilation works, but om-make-ipkg prints that error: http://rafb.net/p/OuDCpZ48.html
Oct 01 12:11:14 <AndreasD> quickdev: great :-) in that case don't think I'll make fix this
Oct 01 12:11:33 <AndreasD> It would require modifications to the libtool version shipped with the .deb toolchain
Oct 01 12:12:02 <AndreasD> and I generally try to avoid libtool ;-)
Oct 01 12:46:26 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I solved it. damn. I wasted two hours because I forgot an include and didn't fix the warning
Oct 01 12:50:32 <Ainulindale> :-)
Oct 01 12:57:47 <quickdev> c punishes bad developers, hehe
Oct 01 13:00:11 <raster> pffft
Oct 01 13:00:23 <raster> c hugs developers and coddles them
Oct 01 13:00:27 <raster> and gives them joy
Oct 01 13:00:30 <raster> and power!
Oct 01 13:08:08 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I define a gui.conf for each application ( dialer, messages ) in /etc - that was what you meant, right?
Oct 01 13:08:25 <Ainulindale> one conf file with sections
Oct 01 13:08:44 <quickdev> could you recommend a parser?
Oct 01 13:08:54 <quickdev> and how to name that file? :)
Oct 01 13:08:56 <raster> parsing is for whimps
Oct 01 13:17:31 <Ainulindale> raster: dumbass :-)
Oct 01 13:17:54 <Ainulindale> quickdev: I don't know for the parser, and for the file, I'd suggest frameworkd-glib.conf
Oct 01 13:18:01 <raster> whimp! :)
Oct 01 13:31:31 <quickdev> alphaone?
Oct 01 13:51:26 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I sent you a patch ;)
Oct 01 13:53:19 <quickdev> time to apply it this night?
Oct 01 14:03:38 <Ainulindale> Perhaps :-)
Oct 01 14:52:13 <alphaone> quickdev: yep. what's up?
Oct 01 14:55:12 <quickdev> alphaone, I'm using the new usage interface. At system startup I call every 5 seconds ListResources() to see if GSM is available. But there seems to be an error, if I RequestResource('GSM') in the first 10 seconds after ListResources() shows GSM. An error is returned: "TODO", but I didn't find that error in frameworkd. Do you know where it is emitted?
Oct 01 15:01:46 <quickdev> Hey mickey|tw
Oct 01 15:02:25 <mickey|tw> hiho
Oct 01 15:04:43 <quickdev> mickey|tw, I implemented the usage interface and it returns a "TODO" error in the first 10 seconds after GSM appears in ListResources(). "TODO" is because errors are not implemented, but where is "TODO" emitted? (just for information) I already asked alphaone
Oct 01 15:05:49 <alphaone> quickdev: You should get a signal
Oct 01 15:06:14 <alphaone> ResourceAvailable("GSM", True)
Oct 01 15:07:39 <alphaone> quickdev: What version of frameworkd are you using?
Oct 01 15:07:47 <quickdev> alphaone, but I won't receive a signal if my application registers after ResourceAvailable("GSM", True) was sent
Oct 01 15:07:48 <mickey|tw> quickdev: can you give me the full error please?
Oct 01 15:07:51 <quickdev> alphaone, the newest
Oct 01 15:07:59 <quickdev> git revision
Oct 01 15:08:16 <alphaone> strange, that should actually work
Oct 01 15:08:35 <quickdev> one moment..it's rebooting..then I'll see the error
Oct 01 15:13:56 <Ainulindale> err
Oct 01 15:14:06 <Ainulindale> "TODO" is in lfg I think
Oct 01 15:24:47 <quickdev> mickey|tw, Ainulindale was right, it's from lfg. Anyway I receive this error:  Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Oct 01 15:25:16 <mickey|tw> oh
Oct 01 15:25:17 <quickdev> and when retrying: Failed to handle dbus error: User :1.3 already requested GSM, 72 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 32
Oct 01 15:25:21 <mickey|tw> that means frameworkd got stuck somewhere
Oct 01 15:25:28 <mickey|tw> could you provide full DEBUG out?
Oct 01 15:25:32 <mickey|tw> [frameworkd]
Oct 01 15:25:34 <mickey|tw> log_level = DEBUG
Oct 01 15:25:39 <mickey|tw> log_to = syslog
Oct 01 15:25:43 <mickey|tw> and then logread -f
Oct 01 15:25:48 <mickey|tw> (or log_to = stderr)
Oct 01 15:25:53 <mickey|tw> (or log_to = file)
Oct 01 15:26:03 <mickey|tw> (and log_destination = /foo/bar)
Oct 01 15:27:04 <quickdev> mickey|tw, http://rafb.net/p/cpcz0U82.html
Oct 01 15:27:32 <quickdev> with ousaged and ogsmd log_level = DEBUG, is it enough?
Oct 01 15:28:22 <mickey|tw> that looks good from the FSO side so far
Oct 01 15:28:29 <mickey|tw> i don't see any actual error
Oct 01 15:28:41 <mickey|tw> still if you receive a timeout, something's wrong
Oct 01 15:28:50 <mickey|tw> but not necessarily on the frameworkd side
Oct 01 15:28:58 <mickey|tw> can you doublecheck on the lfg side?
Oct 01 15:29:30 <quickdev> ok, thanks for confirming that everything is alright, I'll do that
Oct 01 15:30:19 <alphaone> quickdev: It says enabled GSM in 31.7 seconds
Oct 01 15:30:28 <Ainulindale> Check that your signal/method prototype is good quickdev 
Oct 01 15:30:33 <alphaone> Maybe your dbus timeout is too short
Oct 01 15:30:50 <quickdev> Ainulindale, it is good. It works 1 minute after system start. But not immediately
Oct 01 15:30:59 <Ainulindale> That's fun  :-)
Oct 01 15:31:09 <alphaone> can you check in /etc/dbus-1/system.conf
Oct 01 15:31:13 <Ainulindale> If you receive a timeout, just queue it and relaunch it 10 seconds later then :-)
Oct 01 15:32:07 <alphaone> yes, that's probabaly because frameworkd itself is still starting up.
Oct 01 15:32:23 <alphaone> quickdev: The call that times out is the RequestResource, right?
Oct 01 15:32:31 <quickdev> alphaone, yes
Oct 01 15:32:46 <alphaone> I believe the default dbus timeout value is 20sec
Oct 01 15:32:54 <alphaone> err, 25sec
Oct 01 15:34:18 <quickdev> alphaone, system.conf says <limit name="reply_timeout">60000</limit>
Oct 01 15:34:34 <alphaone> okay, so that should be enough
Oct 01 15:36:11 <alphaone> quickdev: How long did it take from the start of the call to the timeout being reported?
Oct 01 15:36:30 <alphaone> Can you maybe retry and include timestamps?
Oct 01 15:36:40 <quickdev> yes, one moment
Oct 01 15:39:06 <alphaone> thanks
Oct 01 15:58:51 <quickdev> alphaone, 
Oct 01 15:58:52 <quickdev> ** (process:1385): DEBUG: 1222818405 Request GSM resource
Oct 01 15:58:52 <quickdev> ** (process:1385): DEBUG: 1222818430 request_resource_callback()
Oct 01 15:58:52 <quickdev> ** (process:1385): DEBUG: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. dbus -2
Oct 01 15:58:52 <quickdev> ** (process:1385): DEBUG: request resource error, try again in 5s
Oct 01 15:59:01 <quickdev> exactly 25 seconds after requestResource()
Oct 01 15:59:28 <alphaone> okay, thanks
Oct 01 15:59:44 <alphaone> So the limit stanza doesn't work for some reason
Oct 01 15:59:51 <alphaone> We'll investigate, thanks
Oct 01 16:02:33 <quickdev> alphaone, _DBUS_DEFAULT_TIMEOUT_VALUE = 25 seconds
Oct 01 16:10:31 <alphaone> quickdev: One sec
Oct 01 16:10:36 <alphaone> I think I got it
Oct 01 16:14:43 <quickdev> alphaone, dbus issue?
Oct 01 16:15:37 <alphaone> yeah, it's not obeying the config
Oct 01 16:16:57 <mickey|tw> ~lart dbus
Oct 01 16:18:37 <quickdev> alphaone, /etc/default/dbus does not exist and and config_file is not specified in /etc/init.d/dbus
Oct 01 16:19:00 <alphaone> quickdev: But shorter timeout values do work
Oct 01 16:32:21 <quickdev> alphaone, that's strange
Oct 01 16:37:33 <alphaone> quickdev: the limit defines the upper bound for the timeout
Oct 01 16:37:40 <alphaone> default is still 25 seconds
Oct 01 16:38:04 <alphaone> you can specify the timeout within the dbus call, though
Oct 01 16:38:19 <alphaone> dbus-send --system --reply-timeout=100000 --print-reply --dest=org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.RequestResource string:GPS
Oct 01 16:38:20 <alphaone> workd
Oct 01 16:38:23 <alphaone> workd
Oct 01 16:38:25 <alphaone> grr
Oct 01 16:38:28 <alphaone> works even
Oct 01 16:51:05 <thexception> moin
Oct 01 16:59:36 <quickdev> alphaone, thanks for figuring out!
Oct 01 16:59:49 <alphaone> quickdev: no problem
Oct 01 17:00:07 <alphaone> I'm trying to create a patch for dbus so we can change the default as well
Oct 01 17:10:24 <quickdev> alphaone, I wonder why that hasn't already been integrated ;)
Oct 01 17:16:06 <bumbl> rwhitby: ping
Oct 01 23:46:24 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07fso-makefile * race58f6b294a 10/Makefile: Changed setup-openembedded to use the org.openembedded.dev branch
Oct 01 23:46:41 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * race58f6b294a 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Changed setup-openembedded to use the org.openembedded.dev branch
Oct 01 23:46:42 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07refs/remotes/origin/master * race58f6b294a 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Changed setup-openembedded to use the org.openembedded.dev branch
Oct 02 02:22:29 <CIA-57> freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07fso-makefile * ra76501635024 10/Makefile: Use the org.openembedded.dev branch from the org.openembedded.dev trial git repo
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