**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 02 02:59:57 2008 Nov 02 08:41:32 Hey Nov 02 08:41:34 Ainulindale, here? Nov 02 10:12:31 raster, of course my applications need a dial pad. Should I really use illume for that? Nov 02 10:13:11 what are u making? Nov 02 10:13:12 dialler? Nov 02 10:13:16 raster, yes Nov 02 10:13:33 dialer is one of the applications Nov 02 10:13:48 table with buttons will do Nov 02 10:14:41 ok Nov 02 10:18:16 raster, would you use edje-TEXT-parts or instead swallow+elementary-label for simple texts/headers/descriptions? Nov 02 10:18:38 yes Nov 02 10:18:56 raster, the latter one? Nov 02 10:19:03 first Nov 02 10:19:03 :) Nov 02 10:20:44 raster, edje_object_part_text_set(elm_layout_get_edje(layout), "number", number); - a bit inconvenient, isn't it? Nov 02 10:24:42 i am not going to go and wrap every edje call Nov 02 10:24:44 :) Nov 02 10:25:15 thats why i let u get the edje object Nov 02 10:25:18 so i dont have to Nov 02 10:26:05 ok :) Nov 02 10:26:47 swallow is wrapped so the layotu can track children and delete them for u Nov 02 10:26:50 thats it Nov 02 10:26:51 :) Nov 02 10:30:39 raster, what if I swallow evas objects through the elementary functions and unswallow them manually? Is that possible? Because there are cases where I want to delete/hide a swallowed object, but not changing the layout. Nov 02 10:31:04 elm will losw track Nov 02 10:31:07 err lose Nov 02 10:31:15 ie it will still think they are under its control Nov 02 10:31:25 deleting it will be fine Nov 02 10:31:29 it will track that Nov 02 10:32:41 ok, perfect Nov 02 10:33:25 (or it SHOULD! i am pretty sure i put that code in) Nov 02 10:33:37 ok Nov 02 10:33:43 added infra for an appwin and syswin Nov 02 10:34:02 (appwin for a menu tied to power button that pops up every time u press power) Nov 02 10:34:07 and syswin for pressing close when on home Nov 02 10:34:11 for system stuff Nov 02 10:34:15 like power off Nov 02 10:34:17 syspend Nov 02 10:34:21 etc. Nov 02 10:35:17 sounds great :) Nov 02 10:36:32 i need to get those damn buttons to work in x on oe... Nov 02 10:41:42 raster, I assume you already used qtopia for a few minutes. At the bottom for example they have two buttons and there's a swung line from the left to the right as the background of these buttons. In constrast to them, I'm using two seperate buttons, but I'd like to style the "whole" bottom bar...not only a certain button. How to do that? a new widget? Nov 02 10:42:19 that'd need a new widget - yes Nov 02 10:42:23 or all done in 1 edje Nov 02 10:42:49 u basically want a "toolbar" Nov 02 10:43:00 and the whole toolbar is pretty much: Nov 02 10:43:02 1. edje parent Nov 02 10:43:07 2. box widget Nov 02 10:43:20 3. sub-buttons (with of course a different style - ie specific to the toolbar) Nov 02 10:43:37 possibly an optional separator edje object Nov 02 10:43:40 raster, wouldn't that widget be useful for elementary? Nov 02 10:43:44 it would Nov 02 10:43:51 as would about 2478 others :) Nov 02 10:43:53 one at a time Nov 02 10:43:57 yeah :) Nov 02 10:44:01 the most important first Nov 02 10:44:08 trust me Nov 02 10:44:27 writign widgets for elementary is so easy - ti's going to be in danger of having so many u're lost as to what one to use Nov 02 10:44:38 i need to be careful and not go write 100 of them Nov 02 10:44:44 all of them incomplete and not tested Nov 02 10:44:53 so ghet the core most useful ones first Nov 02 10:44:53 of course, you're right Nov 02 10:45:02 then slowly add them really "as needed" Nov 02 10:45:05 but i do agree Nov 02 10:45:10 i see what u want Nov 02 10:45:47 today i was just working on illume Nov 02 10:45:50 not elementary Nov 02 10:45:55 i'l lwork on elementary tomorrow Nov 02 10:53:20 raster, do you if it's possible to merge glib and ecore main loop? Nov 02 10:53:33 only 1 way Nov 02 10:53:39 1 thread for ecore Nov 02 10:53:41 1 for glib Nov 02 10:53:49 never use g* in ecore thread Nov 02 10:53:55 that's what I using atm..but it requires to handle thread communication via pipe :) Nov 02 10:54:09 and vice-versa (tho it'd be save to do so to the glib loop from the ecore one - but asymmetric and unclean) Nov 02 10:54:17 and use a pipe + fd's to pass events/info Nov 02 10:54:25 yup Nov 02 10:54:29 thats the only way Nov 02 10:55:39 raster, have you tested elm_layout_* ? I switched to it....and the button which should have been at the buttom is not partly at the upper left. Nov 02 10:55:51 I should have a look at the tests Nov 02 10:56:28 yes Nov 02 10:56:34 see elementary_test Nov 02 10:56:49 :) Nov 02 10:57:01 elm_win_resize_object_add(win, ly); Nov 02 10:57:04 that's it, hehe Nov 02 10:57:15 aaha yeah Nov 02 10:57:17 dont do that Nov 02 10:57:24 to things u will put inside of other widgets Nov 02 10:57:40 as the window will want to move/resize the object then as part of window resizes etc. Nov 02 10:58:12 I use it only for the layout Nov 02 10:58:47 now it's working Nov 02 11:00:21 just was making notes Nov 02 11:00:24 ok Nov 02 11:00:31 time to have a bit of "life" Nov 02 11:00:33 hey Sup3rkiddo Nov 02 11:00:38 nite! Nov 02 11:00:41 raster, thanks Nov 02 11:00:43 good night Nov 02 11:03:43 quickdev, ola ... how goes? Nov 02 11:04:05 Sup3rkiddo, very fine. Progess is quite good :) Nov 02 11:04:12 Sup3rkiddo, and on your side? :) Nov 02 11:04:55 quickdev, stuck with the python part atm....but seeing good improvements in startup :D Nov 02 11:05:04 great :) Nov 02 11:06:13 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r316 10/trunk/python-elementary/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add more widgets Nov 02 11:43:23 guy Nov 02 11:43:58 now I go out Nov 02 11:44:02 bye :) Nov 02 11:44:07 good works Nov 02 11:49:07 Ainulindale, here? Nov 02 11:50:59 yes Nov 02 11:51:06 A bit busy but yes Nov 02 11:51:26 we have to change the build...because raster does not put his things upstream Nov 02 11:51:30 I'm looking for a way to bypass ntfs protection for someone dumb enough to use it Nov 02 11:51:42 quickdev: change what then ? Nov 02 11:51:54 instead we should use the ordinary org.openembedded.dev branch and use rasters patches: http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/oe/patches/ Nov 02 11:52:08 Ok then. Nov 02 11:53:49 Ainulindale, movement to elementary is almost done (btw.) Nov 02 12:07:02 quickdev: ok :-) Nov 02 12:07:32 Ainulindale, and it fits to illume's theme Nov 02 12:07:59 the new illume is even better. Nov 02 12:08:50 Ainulindale, have to go now, cu later Nov 02 12:32:39 Ainulindale: the apps work now Nov 02 12:33:00 Ainulindale: but i have my screen go to sleep with me touching the pad Nov 02 12:33:13 e.g. it falls asleep no matter what i'm doing Nov 02 13:46:05 tomboy64: Hmmm that could be a frameworkd problem or an illume problem Nov 02 13:46:36 freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * rbf385727c1f5 10/fsod/src/subsystems/Python/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Nov 02 13:46:36 freesmartphone.org: 1.) Add fsod bindings Nov 02 13:46:36 freesmartphone.org: 2.) Pass the service object to the factory Nov 02 13:46:36 freesmartphone.org: TODO: find a way to extract the bus object and pass it on the DBus objects to be exported Nov 02 13:46:39 freesmartphone.org: 3.) More error checking in the plugin manager Nov 02 13:46:41 freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * r9ab5e9884839 10/fsod/ (8 files in 5 dirs): Nov 02 13:46:44 freesmartphone.org: 1.) Add main.vala Nov 02 13:46:46 freesmartphone.org: 2.) create a new convenience library for service (Should this be a dynamically loaded object instead) Nov 02 13:53:25 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r8212e7377736 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/pyglet/ (linux.py linux_const.py): odeviced: enhance linux input system support Nov 02 13:53:25 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r903152ab0efd 10/ (ChangeLog framework/controller.py framework/frameworkd): Nov 02 13:53:25 freesmartphone.org: * remove option parsing out of controller, into frameworkd Nov 02 13:53:25 freesmartphone.org: * add command line option for profiling with the python-hotshot profiler Nov 02 13:53:27 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * re8c255cd774e 10/ (ChangeLog framework/frameworkd framework/lsprofcalltree.py): Nov 02 13:53:30 freesmartphone.org: use cProfile to profile and import http://www.gnome.org/~johan/lsprofcalltree.py, Nov 02 13:53:33 freesmartphone.org: that way we can view our profile output in kCacheGrind Nov 02 14:02:17 mickeyl: I made someone send you a strace by the way Nov 02 14:02:28 100% CPU usage without sim, without illume modules Nov 02 14:09:19 i have a new theory Nov 02 14:09:27 sometimes the PMU gets freaky Nov 02 14:09:35 and emits lots of uevents for the battery Nov 02 14:09:38 which get parsed by odeviced Nov 02 14:09:47 so that should be checked Nov 02 14:09:50 shouldn't strace show that? Nov 02 14:10:39 yeah Nov 02 14:10:42 and another possible source Nov 02 14:10:52 wlan sends bogus events on events/0 Nov 02 14:11:01 after a while :/ Nov 02 14:11:09 that's a known bug yes Nov 02 14:33:44 mickeyl: anyway if he didn't send you the logs I'll ask him Nov 02 14:33:55 If you need other logs just tell me Nov 02 14:33:57 (he has some problems with english) Nov 02 14:38:18 didn't get anything yet Nov 02 14:43:56 mickeyl, hi, did you take a look at my email....please do take a look at it once ms4 TODOs are done Nov 02 14:45:53 sure thing. we're planning the release within the next 48h Nov 02 14:48:49 mickeyl, yeah.. i can see the release is imminent..i was planning to line the python scripting interface with the ms4 release.. i am stuck at extracting the bus object from the main daemon. Once thats done, its just the matter of passing these bus objects to the DBus object constructors Nov 02 14:49:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * rf91653eebf87 10framework/framework/subsystems/odeviced/kernel26.py: odeviced: initial status for every LED is 'off' Nov 02 14:49:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r69ac1421799f 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/modem.py: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO]: shutdown modem on close() call Nov 02 14:49:47 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r097f027ec809 10/framework/subsystems/ (odeviced/kernel26.py ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/modem.py): Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' Nov 02 15:07:55 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * ra8d607e8c217 10/docs/ogsmd/ti_calypso/modem: docs: update calypso docs with some new (hard to believe) issues Nov 02 15:14:55 * lindi- does svn up to see the docs :) Nov 02 15:15:59 please not Nov 02 15:16:11 * mickeyl getting gray hear over all the calypso issues Nov 02 15:16:35 then again, after ms4 i will spend some time with the Neptune again... this has its own oddities :) Nov 02 15:18:09 not to speak of the mc75i which is due in December Nov 02 15:18:25 oh, and someone wanted to contribute Qualcomm support Nov 02 16:22:37 Hi at all! Nov 02 16:22:55 I'm new to shr and get it compiled yesterday Nov 02 16:23:21 now on my fr, there is no pin dialog Nov 02 16:23:41 Hey Nov 02 16:23:43 how can i turn on gsm or get the pin dialog? Nov 02 16:24:37 hi quickdev Nov 02 16:25:10 i got shr compiled Nov 02 16:25:34 michael-w, fine, but we're going to change the build process a bit soon Nov 02 16:25:36 you probably remember, that you helped my with the raster branch thing Nov 02 16:25:42 yeah Nov 02 16:26:26 Ainulindale, here? Nov 02 16:27:03 why change the build process? Nov 02 16:27:56 because raster cannot commit his changes to his oe branch. He publishes patches instead ;) Nov 02 16:30:26 so shr will change to there own branch instead?! Nov 02 16:31:03 michael-w, we will switch back to org.openembedded.dev and apply rasters patches Nov 02 16:33:03 quickdev, okay this is reasonable Nov 02 17:49:47 quickdev_: just went in Nov 02 17:49:51 mickeyl: my fso-image builds have been failing for the last couple of days with a fetch error for illume. apparently the svn uri isn't valid (any more). do you know of a new one? Nov 02 17:50:19 Ainulindale, some time for me? Nov 02 17:50:52 Little but yes Nov 02 17:51:12 mickey|bbl: when you'll be there, or alphaone, could one of you tell me how you compiled midori on FSO ? Nov 02 17:53:01 quickdev_: so ? :-) Nov 02 17:53:15 Did you manage to build an image with latest illume? Nov 02 17:53:25 Ainulindale, there was a thing to discuss with you...but it doesn't get back into my mind..argh Nov 02 17:53:28 Ainulindale, yes Nov 02 17:53:29 on my local host Nov 02 17:53:40 it's even better as the current one...very fine :) Nov 02 17:54:02 Could you do the same on the buildhost then ? :-) Nov 02 17:54:02 Ainulindale, I'll make it compile on the buildhost..but I don't know if I can do it today Nov 02 17:54:05 I'm eager to test Nov 02 17:54:19 quickdev_: Did you see the packages I added? Nov 02 17:54:26 yes Nov 02 17:54:42 And did you understand how to modify desktop files to get the icons back ? Nov 02 17:54:50 Yesterday I was truly tired, I didn't pay attention Nov 02 17:56:50 Ainulindale, no, I thought it was your issue :) Nov 02 17:57:05 Meaning an issue only me had? Nov 02 17:57:11 Or something I was trying to fix? Nov 02 17:57:20 latter one :) Nov 02 17:57:27 Yeah, was trying to do that Nov 02 17:57:34 But raster's explanation are hermetic to me Nov 02 17:57:42 I didn't clearly understand what I was supposed to do Nov 02 17:57:49 He changed stuff, that I got Nov 02 17:57:59 But I'd like to know how to fix what we ship Nov 02 17:58:03 He didn't clearly explained that Nov 02 17:58:43 yeah...the only icon working for me is pidgin Nov 02 17:59:16 hi all! Nov 02 17:59:25 you should also have messages, contacts and dialer quickdev_ Nov 02 17:59:29 Ainulindale, because pidgin has an absolute path: g_value_get_string(g_hash_table_lookup(h1, "timestamp")) Nov 02 17:59:35 hey alexxy Nov 02 17:59:43 quickdev_: I know Nov 02 17:59:47 Ainulindale: is there a way to get phone like keyboard with illume like it was on 2007.12? Nov 02 17:59:50 That's why I hard wired the desktop files for dialer and such Nov 02 18:00:06 Ainulindale, I think I didn't get the newest shr-image.bb Nov 02 18:00:11 so no oopenmoko-icons...that's why Nov 02 18:00:13 alexxy: There's completion, so it' useless Nov 02 18:00:17 Yep Nov 02 18:00:25 But anyway it should work changing some stuff Nov 02 18:00:26 Problem i Nov 02 18:00:27 +s Nov 02 18:00:31 I don't know what the stuff is Nov 02 18:00:37 And raster didn't take time to explain that to me =) Nov 02 18:01:06 Ainulindale, aah Nov 02 18:01:10 I know what I wanted Nov 02 18:01:22 I don't have any nude pictures Nov 02 18:01:23 I'd like to display a SMS info: $x chars left Nov 02 18:01:28 If that's the thing you wanted Nov 02 18:01:42 quickdev_: oh and by the way Nov 02 18:01:45 Please handle \n :-) Nov 02 18:01:52 (see my screenshots) Nov 02 18:02:03 mh? when displaying a message? Nov 02 18:02:06 yep Nov 02 18:02:18 quickdev_: so, you'd like to display that, so what ? Nov 02 18:02:32 so work for you, one moment Nov 02 18:02:49 quickdev_: It'll be impossible to do until thursday Nov 02 18:03:04 I won't have internet access f rom tonight to wednesday night Nov 02 18:03:06 you cannot add libframeworkd-glib things? Nov 02 18:03:09 ok.. Nov 02 18:03:27 Right now I'm lucky to have it Nov 02 18:03:43 (I'll be leaving to my hotel in an hour or so) Nov 02 18:04:40 Ainulindale, alphaone told me about a function that returns the chars left when composing a message Nov 02 18:04:45 but I don't remember it Nov 02 18:04:54 Neither do I :-) Nov 02 18:05:20 And it's not implemented yet anyway... Nov 02 18:05:38 Heh :-) Nov 02 18:05:42 FreeNode-#openmoko-cdevel.log:Okt 27 14:06:51 org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.FragmentUserdata(featureMap, text) -> a(s)i textparts, charsfree Nov 02 18:05:54 alphaone, argh :) Nov 02 18:06:12 alphaone, what happens if I send a too long sms? Nov 02 18:06:15 alphaone: as you're here, could you answer my question about midori ? (did you manage to build it on FSO ?) Nov 02 18:06:34 Ainulindale: Never built midori, don't know Nov 02 18:06:43 ok :-) Nov 02 18:06:47 quickdev_: I suspect nothing will... Nov 02 18:06:55 The modem might return an error Nov 02 18:07:10 alphaone, multipart not yet implemented, right? Nov 02 18:07:22 quickdev_: It is Nov 02 18:07:39 csm_id, csm_num and csm_seq in the optional properties Nov 02 18:08:12 alphaone, so I have to care when sending them? no high level interface? Nov 02 18:08:28 quickdev_: Not yet, no Nov 02 18:09:05 alphaone, btw..frameworkd is working very reliable for me :) Nov 02 18:09:13 (same here) Nov 02 18:09:15 quickdev_: Cool Nov 02 18:09:19 Though I have sometimes weird behaviors Nov 02 18:09:24 i.e. it won't stop ringing Nov 02 18:09:27 And I can't accept calls Nov 02 18:09:30 I had some problems with/during suspend before... Nov 02 18:09:42 It could have been related to our work Nov 02 18:09:48 Ah, that happens when someone calls and hangs up right away Nov 02 18:09:50 But as when it happens, the ringtone won't stop Nov 02 18:09:55 there might be some race condition when releasing a call immediately after it comes in Nov 02 18:09:57 (ringing) Nov 02 18:10:06 alphaone, yeah Nov 02 18:10:11 alphaone: ok then Nov 02 18:11:39 Any clues on how to fix that ? :-) Nov 03 00:47:39 Ainulindale: stil here? Nov 03 00:47:56 how do i check in fso whether the gps is up and running? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 03 02:59:56 2008