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Nov 03 06:13:38 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07specs * r467ed33e613c 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): oevents: Added doc for AddRule, RemoveRule and TriggerTest
Nov 03 07:36:01 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * r5dcfeff8b408 10/illume/illume-config/ (e.src module.battery.src module.illume.src): illume-config: Sync with upstream brings in fixes for topshelf size
Nov 03 08:37:44 <methril> morning
Nov 03 09:40:48 <rebelThor> hey guys, any of you having issues with non-displaying icons on a fresh install of SHR ?
Nov 03 09:57:25 <Hire1> rebelThor: yes
Nov 03 09:57:29 <Hire1> it's a temp issue
Nov 03 09:57:42 <Hire1> do you have tested the lastest image?
Nov 03 09:57:56 <Hire1> however I am going to create a icons pack for SHR
Nov 03 09:58:14 <rebelThor> it's the one from November 2nd
Nov 03 09:58:22 <rebelThor> so i guess it's yesterday's image
Nov 03 09:58:24 <Hire1> ah ok :)
Nov 03 09:58:29 <rebelThor> and icons don't show up
Nov 03 09:58:37 <rebelThor> also, one more question if I may :D
Nov 03 09:58:43 <rebelThor> does SHR suspend?
Nov 03 09:58:57 <Hire1> if you wait 1-2 days you will get a nice icons pack by me :o
Nov 03 09:59:02 <Hire1> sure
Nov 03 09:59:08 <rebelThor> how do you make it suspend? :-s
Nov 03 09:59:15 <Hire1> you need to do a short press ( 2 seconds ) with the power button
Nov 03 09:59:26 <rebelThor> i tried that, nothing seems to happen
Nov 03 09:59:29 <Hire1> and for the resume the same
Nov 03 09:59:51 <Hire1> it isn't the aux button eh :o
Nov 03 09:59:59 <Hire1> well, i try now
Nov 03 10:00:02 <rebelThor> it's the round button, the power one :)
Nov 03 10:00:14 <Hire1> uhm
Nov 03 10:00:16 <Hire1> strange
Nov 03 10:00:26 <rebelThor> so, when on the desktop, pressing the power button for 2 seconds does nothing at all
Nov 03 10:00:34 <Hire1> Ainulindale
Nov 03 10:00:53 <Hire1> it seem to be a issue with the frameworkd
Nov 03 10:01:07 <Hire1> but it's strange because i can suspend my fr without problem
Nov 03 10:01:15 <rebelThor> :(
Nov 03 10:01:32 <rebelThor> did you make any change to the image?
Nov 03 10:01:37 <rebelThor> i just installed it, moments ago
Nov 03 10:01:39 <Hire1> no :\
Nov 03 10:02:03 <Hire1> we need Ainulindale and quickdev to see if you they have changed something into SHR 
Nov 03 10:02:42 <rebelThor> any clue if i can manually suspend it somehow? 
Nov 03 10:02:45 * Hire1 powerup the FR
Nov 03 10:03:11 <Hire1> but the FR needs to suspend with the power button :|
Nov 03 10:03:22 <Hire1> it's an issue that need to be solved
Nov 03 10:03:35 <rebelThor> well, maybe my FR is broken?
Nov 03 10:03:41 <rebelThor> how come nobody else noticed this?
Nov 03 10:03:42 <Hire1> naaah, impossibile 
Nov 03 10:04:27 <Hire1> what kernel do you using?
Nov 03 10:04:42 <rebelThor> you mean the uImage ?
Nov 03 10:04:53 <Hire1> yes
Nov 03 10:05:02 <Hire1> from shr or openmoko?
Nov 03 10:05:14 <rebelThor> uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin from 31 Oct from the http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ folder
Nov 03 10:05:50 <Hire1> i tested now and I can suspend and resume
Nov 03 10:05:56 <Hire1> but I have a "old" image
Nov 03 10:06:13 <Hire1> so ... I think Ainulindale messed up shr :D
Nov 03 10:06:13 <rebelThor> what does "old" mean?
Nov 03 10:06:24 <Hire1> an image old 7 days ago
Nov 03 10:06:37 <rebelThor> i know i used one from about 2 weeks ago
Nov 03 10:06:42 <rebelThor> and that would not suspend either
Nov 03 10:06:49 <Hire1> ah
Nov 03 10:07:05 <rebelThor> maybe it's my SD card?
Nov 03 10:07:15 <rebelThor> it's the only "foreign" thing in the phone
Nov 03 10:07:16 <Hire1> this is bad
Nov 03 10:07:29 <Hire1> do you have flash SHR on nand or put it on uSD?
Nov 03 10:07:48 <rebelThor> it's on the uSD
Nov 03 10:07:59 <Hire1> do you want to test it on nand?
Nov 03 10:08:37 <Hire1> when Ainulindale is alive i talk with him on this issue :)
Nov 03 10:10:08 <Hire1> or if you want you can open a ticket on http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki
Nov 03 10:10:33 <rebelThor> hmm, sure, i'll test it on the NAND first, and then i'll post a ticket
Nov 03 10:10:34 <rebelThor> thank you
Nov 03 10:11:05 <Hire1> sorry if you have an issue with SHR
Nov 03 10:11:23 <Hire1> but it is on the way to be stable
Nov 03 10:11:31 <Hire1> we need to reach the first milestone
Nov 03 10:11:45 <Hire1> so more bugs we find more shr will be stable :D
Nov 03 10:12:08 <rebelThor> it looks great, i really like the new keyboard
Nov 03 10:12:14 <Hire1> yes
Nov 03 10:12:28 <Hire1> and quickdev is porting dialer, contacts and messages on elementary
Nov 03 10:12:41 <rebelThor> elementary?
Nov 03 10:12:42 <Hire1> so we will that apps looks beatiful
Nov 03 10:13:42 <Hire1> http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-freerunner.avi <-- look the alarm app, they will be the same
Nov 03 10:14:28 <Hire1> Ainulindale is working on the core of shr instead and he want to help the fso team with opimid
Nov 03 10:14:33 <Hire1> opimd
Nov 03 10:14:50 <Hire1> that=those
Nov 03 10:15:43 <Hire1> alarm is the first app shown on the ogg eh :D
Nov 03 10:16:25 <rebelThor> whoa, it looks great
Nov 03 10:16:31 <Hire1> yeah
Nov 03 10:16:37 <Hire1> and I am working on the icons
Nov 03 10:16:55 <rebelThor> be right back, need to change provider
Nov 03 10:17:08 <Hire1> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/987b5386ccb0e14d4c75968267247273.png  <-- this is my custom edje
Nov 03 10:17:15 <Hire1> sadness :|
Nov 03 10:21:55 <kd8ikt> nice
Nov 03 10:22:28 <kd8ikt> i like the illume theme
Nov 03 10:22:51 <kd8ikt> and how it has virtual desktops (not that i think i'd really use that but its neat
Nov 03 10:32:06 <Hire1> do you can suspend?
Nov 03 10:34:04 <kd8ikt> nah
Nov 03 10:34:55 <Hire1> on SHR?
Nov 03 10:35:02 <kd8ikt> but i knoticed when its locked (aux) and i recieved a call when i unlocked it answer wasnt working
Nov 03 10:35:21 <kd8ikt> ya know i forget what firmware i'm using
Nov 03 10:35:32 <Hire1> locked?
Nov 03 10:35:45 <kd8ikt> yeah lock via aux
Nov 03 10:35:53 <Hire1> SHR can't lock
Nov 03 10:36:03 <kd8ikt> might be asu
Nov 03 10:36:11 <Hire1> ah, asu :o
Nov 03 10:36:14 <stefan_schmidt> raster: Do you have a moment for me?
Nov 03 10:36:22 <Hire1> i am talking about SHR
Nov 03 10:36:41 * Hire1 pings raster for stefan_schmidt
Nov 03 10:38:06 <Hiretto> i hate hire1
Nov 03 10:38:08 <Hiretto> i am hire :|
Nov 03 10:38:13 <Hiretto> H-I-R-E
Nov 03 10:53:49 <Hiretto> rebelThor1
Nov 03 10:53:53 <Hiretto> do you have tested SHR?
Nov 03 10:54:07 <rebelThor1> hey, yep, i'm using the latest image
Nov 03 10:54:14 <Hiretto> on NAND?
Nov 03 10:54:17 <Hiretto> how it is going?
Nov 03 10:54:19 <rebelThor1> nope, on the SD
Nov 03 10:54:23 <Hiretto> is it going
Nov 03 10:54:23 <Hiretto> ah
Nov 03 10:54:27 <Hiretto> i see
Nov 03 10:54:36 <rebelThor1> didn't have time to write it on the NAND yet, i'm at work right now
Nov 03 10:54:44 <Hiretto> i see :D
Nov 03 10:55:01 <Hiretto> i am to home and now i am going to cook the pasta
Nov 03 10:55:13 <rebelThor1> bon apetit ;)
Nov 03 10:55:36 <Hiretto> grazie ( i am italian :o )
Nov 03 10:55:59 <rebelThor1> i know, figured it out from the "pasta" ;)
Nov 03 10:56:23 <Hiretto> and it isn't pastas :|
Nov 03 10:56:40 <Hiretto> pasta doesn't had a plural 
Nov 03 10:57:48 <Hiretto> if I translate "pastas" in italian become "paste" and the paste is a sweet as bignè, cannolo sicialiano, diplomatico etc
Nov 03 11:01:34 <rebelThor1> hmm, i see
Nov 03 11:15:52 <methril> language classes in the channel, interesting
Nov 03 11:15:53 <methril> :)
Nov 03 11:16:12 <Hiretto> Ainulindale: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR--27-10-2008--td1383932.html are you interesting on it?
Nov 03 11:16:26 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r317 10/trunk/python-elementary/Makefile: Fix Makefile
Nov 03 11:17:01 <Hiretto> FSO? ASU? SHR? TAMTLA? UMAF!
Nov 03 11:28:29 <kd8ikt> i wonder how i can tell the keyboard to stop displaying the maginfying glass, cause raised letters and magnifier!?!?.. one or the other 
Nov 03 11:28:48 <kd8ikt> both just kill the response speed
Nov 03 11:29:07 <lindi-> kd8ikt: the keyboard?
Nov 03 11:30:21 <kd8ikt> exactly
Nov 03 11:31:24 <lindi-> kd8ikt: which keyboard?
Nov 03 11:31:36 <kd8ikt> asu/fso
Nov 03 11:31:42 <lindi-> what's that?
Nov 03 11:32:35 <kd8ikt> i'm going to hurt you
Nov 03 11:33:13 <Hiretto> me too
Nov 03 11:33:44 <lindi-> kd8ikt: huh?
Nov 03 11:34:00 <lindi-> is asu/fso really the name of the keyboard program?
Nov 03 11:34:17 <kd8ikt> illume keyboards
Nov 03 11:35:43 <lindi-> ah, i remember reading through the source of that
Nov 03 11:36:49 <kd8ikt> i could do without the huge magnifier
Nov 03 11:37:07 <lindi-> kd8ikt: use xvkbd?
Nov 03 11:37:17 <kd8ikt> raising the key above your finger to see what its resting on really is enough
Nov 03 11:46:24 <raster> stefan_schmidt:  yo
Nov 03 11:47:41 <joerg_42> raster: moo
Nov 03 11:47:54 <raster> joerg_42:  burrp
Nov 03 11:48:08 <stefan_schmidt> raster: I'm just having fun to catchup with the illume changes wrt to icons in the fso theme
Nov 03 11:48:33 <raster> stefan_schmidt:  just fixed what theme key to use for the icon view
Nov 03 11:48:36 <raster> ie the desktop one
Nov 03 11:48:36 <stefan_schmidt> raster: john already pointed me to this nice thing
Nov 03 11:48:39 <raster> not windowed one
Nov 03 11:48:42 <stefan_schmidt> -   group { name: "e/fileman/default/icon/fixed";
Nov 03 11:48:42 <stefan_schmidt> <stefan_schmidt> +   group { name: "e/fileman/desktop/icon/fixed";
Nov 03 11:48:55 <raster> it should have been desktop to start wtih
Nov 03 11:49:05 <raster> but the asu theme hid the bug
Nov 03 11:49:12 <stefan_schmidt> raster: ?
Nov 03 11:49:20 <stefan_schmidt> raster: You lost me somewhere :)
Nov 03 11:49:30 <raster> default is for the fm in windoes
Nov 03 11:49:35 <raster> windows
Nov 03 11:49:43 <stefan_schmidt> Atm I have boarders and correct size but no icon image
Nov 03 11:49:47 <raster> it should have been using the theme used for icons on the desktop
Nov 03 11:49:49 <joerg_42> symlink?
Nov 03 11:49:50 <raster> not in a window
Nov 03 11:50:17 <raster> icon labels?
Nov 03 11:50:23 <stefan_schmidt> raster: yes
Nov 03 11:50:31 <raster> ok - probably just icon theme
Nov 03 11:50:39 <raster> there's a config dialog to select them
Nov 03 11:50:40 <raster> :)
Nov 03 11:50:40 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07specs * r4a472085b8fc 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): opimd: initial import
Nov 03 11:51:09 <stefan_schmidt> raster: Well, we use hicolor here
Nov 03 11:51:14 <stefan_schmidt> as everybody else :)
Nov 03 11:51:25 <raster> i think i changed the illume config to use Tango
Nov 03 11:51:27 <raster> by default
Nov 03 11:51:28 <stefan_schmidt> Let me upload a screenie
Nov 03 11:51:45 <stefan_schmidt> raster: Not the last time I synced, yesterday
Nov 03 11:51:55 <raster> if u have non-theme icons they will work
Nov 03 11:51:59 <raster> ie icons in /usr/share/pixmaps
Nov 03 11:52:02 <raster> or /usr/share/icons
Nov 03 11:52:10 <stefan_schmidt> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/f7d83da350569ea265c0c2d859609240.png
Nov 03 11:52:21 <stefan_schmidt> yep, all icons are in /usr/share/pixmaps
Nov 03 11:52:26 <stefan_schmidt> But none show up
Nov 03 11:52:29 <raster> hmm
Nov 03 11:52:32 <raster> i get terminal icons
Nov 03 11:52:35 <raster> btw
Nov 03 11:52:45 <raster> terminal doesnt work with a utf8 locale
Nov 03 11:52:45 <raster> :)
Nov 03 11:52:56 <stefan_schmidt> Another issue :)
Nov 03 11:53:15 <raster> everything else does... :) so not sure what exactly
Nov 03 11:53:29 <raster> but now e does explicitly set up a utf8 locale
Nov 03 11:53:41 <raster> (when u choose language)
Nov 03 11:53:51 <joerg_42> :-D
Nov 03 11:54:00 <raster> it works :)
Nov 03 11:54:03 <stefan_schmidt> I'm dealing with missing icons right now, not with utf8 :D
Nov 03 11:54:07 <raster> i can have my messages in german nicely
Nov 03 11:54:07 <raster> :)
Nov 03 11:54:18 <stefan_schmidt> ah, famous umlauts
Nov 03 11:54:22 <raster> as for missing icons.. umm... errr
Nov 03 11:54:34 <raster> of those there i KNOW terminal works in my illume image
Nov 03 11:54:46 <raster> if the theme icon isnt found
Nov 03 11:54:55 <raster> icons from /usr/shareicns+pixmaps will be used too
Nov 03 11:55:25 <stefan_schmidt> I'll test a bit more here
Nov 03 11:56:02 <raster> i didnt change anything to do with filemanager icon stuff
Nov 03 11:56:11 <Kensan_> stefan_schmidt: silly question: are the permissions set correctly?
Nov 03 11:56:22 <raster> Kensan_:  u run as root
Nov 03 11:57:15 <joerg_42> chmod u-r ? :-D
Nov 03 11:57:18 <stefan_schmidt> raster: weird, could be a combination of different issues
Nov 03 11:57:27 <raster> could be
Nov 03 11:57:37 <stefan_schmidt> Kensan_: They are readable, but as raster said, root anyway
Nov 03 11:57:50 <raster> u could just use the default theme... and save effort :)
Nov 03 11:57:56 <raster> well default theme/profile
Nov 03 11:57:57 <raster> :)
Nov 03 11:58:38 <stefan_schmidt> We wouls at least have different config options for auto suspens, screensaver and some more.
Nov 03 11:58:47 <stefan_schmidt> I thought about this already yesterday :)
Nov 03 11:58:56 <stefan_schmidt> Perhaps after a MS4 release
Nov 03 11:59:03 <raster> auytosuspend wont even work
Nov 03 11:59:08 <raster> as it requires ompower
Nov 03 11:59:22 <joerg_42> gdb, strace
Nov 03 11:59:22 <stefan_schmidt> Which should be the next days, that's why we need icons back :)
Nov 03 11:59:26 <Kensan_> raster: it's one of my standard "silly questions ";)
Nov 03 11:59:29 <raster> screensaver is just a normal x blank
Nov 03 11:59:30 <raster> :)
Nov 03 11:59:36 <stefan_schmidt> raster: ah, so without ompower the config would be dead
Nov 03 11:59:42 <raster> yup
Nov 03 11:59:51 <raster> it'll try send a dbus message to ompower
Nov 03 11:59:54 <raster> whihc wont be listening
Nov 03 11:59:57 <raster> so.. nothing will happen
Nov 03 11:59:57 <raster> :)
Nov 03 12:00:39 <stefan_schmidt> Today I need to fix our theme. Moving to upstream is a task for later
Nov 03 12:02:05 <raster> well asu's theme is the closest to fso
Nov 03 12:02:16 <raster> i suggest first just try set asu's theme
Nov 03 12:02:18 <raster> if icons shoiw
Nov 03 12:02:22 <raster> then u know its a theme issue
Nov 03 12:02:27 <raster> and u need to do a diff and see
Nov 03 12:02:30 <raster> as those 2 are close
Nov 03 12:02:45 <raster> doing a diff against e's default+illume overlay theme isnt goign to be very useful
Nov 03 12:02:45 <raster> :)
Nov 03 12:03:47 <stefan_schmidt> yeah, seen that yesterday :)
Nov 03 12:26:17 <stefan_schmidt> raster: ok, asu configs + theme does not show icons either. :(
Nov 03 12:27:04 <raster> stefan_schmidt: hmm whats your icon theme?
Nov 03 12:27:18 <stefan_schmidt> raster: hicolor
Nov 03 12:27:32 <stefan_schmidt> At least it should be
Nov 03 12:27:33 <kd8ikt> http://www.arieverhagen.nl/Graphics/HitAnyKey.gif
Nov 03 12:27:48 <stefan_schmidt> value "icon_theme" string: "hicolor";
Nov 03 12:28:32 <raster>   value "icon_theme" string: "openmoko-standard";
Nov 03 12:28:41 <raster> is what i have in the default illume config
Nov 03 12:28:47 <raster> and terminal shows up
Nov 03 12:28:49 <stefan_schmidt> hmm
Nov 03 12:28:54 <stefan_schmidt> Let me try
Nov 03 12:29:07 <raster> not al icons show
Nov 03 12:29:18 <raster> but gpe-scap and terminal do
Nov 03 12:29:21 <raster> calculator doesnt
Nov 03 12:29:27 <stefan_schmidt> I had this before
Nov 03 12:29:29 <raster> alarm does (elementary alarm)
Nov 03 12:29:50 <stefan_schmidt> Perhaps the combination of turn off and on I was searching for :)
Nov 03 12:29:50 <raster> and 
Nov 03 12:29:51 <raster> root@om-gta02:~# ls /usr/share/icons/
Nov 03 12:29:51 <raster> alarm.png
Nov 03 12:29:56 <stefan_schmidt> mom
Nov 03 12:29:59 <raster> the alarm icon is in /usr/share/icons
Nov 03 12:30:21 <raster> so i do know it does find icons in the standard places
Nov 03 12:30:38 <raster> root@om-gta02:/usr/share/pixmaps# ls
Nov 03 12:30:38 <raster> gpe-scap.png             xsplash-qvga-square.ppm  xsplash-vga.ppm
Nov 03 12:30:38 <raster> openmoko-terminal.png    xsplash-qvga.ppm
Nov 03 12:30:46 <raster> gpe-scap and terminal both work
Nov 03 12:30:53 <raster> so /u/s/pixmaps works too
Nov 03 12:31:03 <stefan_schmidt> yeah, our icons are there as well
Nov 03 12:31:12 <stefan_schmidt> No /usr/share/icons here
Nov 03 12:31:59 <stefan_schmidt> takes a moment, need to go back to fso theme + config
Nov 03 12:34:44 <stefan_schmidt> No luck with openmoko-standard either
Nov 03 12:35:31 <stefan_schmidt> http://pastebin.com/m81d4471
Nov 03 12:35:45 <stefan_schmidt> All icons are in /usr/share/pixmaps, so no changes there
Nov 03 12:35:59 <raster> hmm
Nov 03 12:36:26 <raster> then all i can think of is to steal e's default icon
Nov 03 12:36:30 <raster> from e';s theme
Nov 03 12:36:33 <raster> and disable the images
Nov 03 12:36:36 <raster> keep everything else
Nov 03 12:36:37 <raster> and see
Nov 03 12:37:24 <stefan_schmidt> hmm
Nov 03 12:39:02 <stefan_schmidt> will test
Nov 03 12:39:30 <stefan_schmidt> raster: ah, can it have something to do with the config version?
Nov 03 12:39:43 <stefan_schmidt> Some special handling inside illume for special versions perhaps?
Nov 03 12:40:02 <stefan_schmidt> atm I have 65831 here
Nov 03 12:40:18 <stefan_schmidt> we can go up to 32 with our current svnrev of E
Nov 03 12:43:08 <raster> oooh maybe
Nov 03 12:43:29 <raster> it could be e "upgrading" your config.. are your config versions matching those in e's upstream?
Nov 03 12:43:33 <raster> (i keep them up to date)
Nov 03 12:45:07 <stefan_schmidt> We are one behind
Nov 03 12:45:14 <stefan_schmidt> The newest one needs newer E
Nov 03 12:45:35 <stefan_schmidt> And with all the eina breakage I will not do this before a release today or tomorrow :)
Nov 03 12:45:48 <raster> hehehe
Nov 03 12:45:54 <raster> well i have fixed it all for u
Nov 03 12:46:04 <raster> i still maintain my svn patches as git just doesnt want to play nice
Nov 03 12:46:21 <raster> and the insturctions for how to add/commit to branches and delete them for oe's git dont work
Nov 03 12:46:23 <raster> so i gave up
Nov 03 12:46:50 <stefan_schmidt> yeah, but you test with your own theme, etc which is fine.
Nov 03 12:47:06 <stefan_schmidt> Getting all your patches now is a pretty bad idea for a near release
Nov 03 12:48:30 * stefan_schmidt takes a look at the patches at least
Nov 03 12:56:36 <stefan_schmidt> raster: http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/oe/patches/0006-e17-efl-update-to-match-latest-additions-and-change.patch
Nov 03 12:56:53 <stefan_schmidt> raster: That one could break everything :)
Nov 03 12:57:20 <raster> it could
Nov 03 12:57:21 <raster> it doesnt
Nov 03 12:57:24 <raster> but it could
Nov 03 12:57:24 <stefan_schmidt> heh
Nov 03 12:57:27 <raster> it birngs in eina
Nov 03 12:57:32 <stefan_schmidt> yeah
Nov 03 12:57:35 <raster> and heavily fixes up e
Nov 03 12:57:35 <stefan_schmidt> sigh
Nov 03 12:57:42 <stefan_schmidt> not a nice situation
Nov 03 12:57:44 <raster> gives u the inital wizard and language/profile selector
Nov 03 12:57:53 <raster> all of whihc solve a lot of issues
Nov 03 12:58:04 <stefan_schmidt> I see no way to bring this in before we make a release build
Nov 03 12:58:05 <raster> like having to go install a pcakge to change "config"
Nov 03 12:58:10 <raster> (stupid idea)
Nov 03 12:58:20 <stefan_schmidt> Would have to discuss with mickey|bbl anyway as he is the E maintainer in OE
Nov 03 12:58:37 <raster> well u should knwo that i build and have tested this across multiple targets
Nov 03 12:58:45 <stefan_schmidt> raster: I know
Nov 03 12:58:47 <raster> so it likely has gotten more testing that what you have right now
Nov 03 12:58:48 <raster> :)
Nov 03 12:59:14 <stefan_schmidt> raster: Well, we have enough testing for gta02. And the release is for that
Nov 03 12:59:33 <stefan_schmidt> alphaone and me use the latest images as primary phone for almost a week now
Nov 03 12:59:45 <stefan_schmidt> That is real life testing :)
Nov 03 13:00:06 <raster> sure
Nov 03 13:00:18 <raster> u may want to update earlier tho in dev
Nov 03 13:00:20 <raster> not "late"
Nov 03 13:00:21 <raster> :)
Nov 03 13:00:23 <raster> in future
Nov 03 13:00:55 <stefan_schmidt> raster: Your dev cycles not always match other people release cycles. :D
Nov 03 13:01:05 <stefan_schmidt> raster: Serious, I got the point
Nov 03 13:01:21 <stefan_schmidt> raster: It was just so much stuff broken in E over the last weeks
Nov 03 13:01:39 <stefan_schmidt> raster: I was not even able to build a newer version for my workstations
Nov 03 13:01:56 <raster> aaah
Nov 03 13:01:56 <raster> yeah
Nov 03 13:01:59 <raster> things move
Nov 03 13:02:03 <raster> rapidly
Nov 03 13:02:17 <raster> and i've just been goign thru my email backlog + patches
Nov 03 13:02:34 <stefan_schmidt> That is good for E, but more difficult for people using svn head
Nov 03 13:03:41 <stefan_schmidt> Anyway, bumping E before the release is a no-go, sorry. And I still have the feeling that this is not the reason for the missing icons
Nov 03 13:04:18 <stefan_schmidt> I mean ASU have them back and they are even one more config version behind (Not sure if they could match ours from the code base they are using)
Nov 03 13:06:11 <raster> no problems
Nov 03 13:06:12 <raster> :)
Nov 03 13:06:26 <raster> hmmm
Nov 03 13:06:29 <raster> really not sure
Nov 03 13:10:54 * stefan_schmidt is a bit out of ideas, too
Nov 03 13:12:09 <quickdev> Hey 
Nov 03 13:12:44 <raster> hoi
Nov 03 13:16:42 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r318 10/trunk/python-elementary/elementary/elementary.pyx: switch to evas.c_evas.SmartObject as base class
Nov 03 13:18:22 <quickdev> Ainulindale, here?
Nov 03 13:31:52 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * rad3e959215e2 10/illume/illume-config/e.src: 
Nov 03 13:31:52 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: illume-config: Bump config version.
Nov 03 13:31:52 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: One version behind upstream. The newest version requires a newer code base.
Nov 03 13:31:52 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: With this version we can go back to the real values for gadget size.
Nov 03 13:31:53 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * rdbd25062240e 10/illume/illume-config/module.illume.src: illume-config: Change gadget size back after version bump
Nov 03 13:31:56 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * rcb7aa9779f1d 10/illume/illume/freerunner.edc: illume-theme: correct key for filemanager
Nov 03 13:37:33 <CIA-12> freesmartphone.org: 03stefan 07artwork * r7b23cbd2e94c 10/illume/illume-config/module.illume.src: illume-config: Back to 42 as gadget size, as we had before
Nov 03 13:38:37 <Kensan_> raster: andy answered to my mail on kernel. He commited the jffs2 gc patch to stable.
Nov 03 13:38:47 <Kensan_> ah there he goes *heh*
Nov 03 13:54:10 <rebelThor> ufff, SHR does not suspend on the NAND either
Nov 03 13:56:28 <Hiretto> quickdev
Nov 03 13:56:45 <Ainulindale> quickdev: Here now
Nov 03 13:56:52 <Hiretto> Ainulindale
Nov 03 13:56:59 <Hiretto> rebelThor has a problem with suspend
Nov 03 13:57:48 <Ainulindale> I don't have the time.
Nov 03 13:57:57 <Ainulindale> And it works, I have latest on my GTA02.
Nov 03 13:58:09 <rebelThor> it doesn't work on mine :)
Nov 03 13:58:12 <Hiretto> yes, here too
Nov 03 13:58:16 <rebelThor> it's weird
Nov 03 13:58:23 <Hiretto> but it doesn't work with rebelThor
Nov 03 13:58:42 <Ainulindale> Too bad, I really can't help you now. I'm at work, at a client, and using SSH totally "illegaly".
Nov 03 13:58:58 <rebelThor> it's ok, some other time then
Nov 03 13:59:30 <rebelThor> the strange thing is that it goes into suspend if i just leave it alone for some time
Nov 03 13:59:47 <rebelThor> just suspending by the button doesn't seem to work
Nov 03 14:00:17 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: first situation is normal
Nov 03 14:00:27 <Ainulindale> Second isn'ty
Nov 03 14:00:43 <quickdev> rebelThor, right kernel?
Nov 03 14:00:43 <Ainulindale> Check that you have a rule for suspend in /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/rules.yaml
Nov 03 14:00:47 <Ainulindale> If you have
Nov 03 14:00:47 <Ainulindale> Check your kernel
Nov 03 14:00:51 <Ainulindale> I bet either one isn't up to date
Nov 03 14:01:06 <Ainulindale> As I didn't upgrade my kernel recently it may be that latest kernel is borked
Nov 03 14:01:20 <quickdev> alphaone, how to count the remaining characters for a short message? :)
Nov 03 14:01:24 <Hiretto> rebelThor try to flash the lastest kernel of SHR
Nov 03 14:01:42 <rebelThor> right now i have the latest in http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/
Nov 03 14:02:36 <Ainulindale> THis kernel git is really unstable.
Nov 03 14:02:52 <rebelThor> so which one should i better use?
Nov 03 14:03:20 <alphaone> quickdev: hmm, you could import subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/convert.py directly and then encode the text with "gsm_default"
Nov 03 14:03:43 <quickdev> alphaone, it's C, not python :)
Nov 03 14:03:48 <alphaone> quickdev: The resulting characters are the amount of chars in the sms
Nov 03 14:03:52 <alphaone> quickdev: oh, well
Nov 03 14:03:56 <alphaone> then wait :-)
Nov 03 14:04:31 <rebelThor> duuuudes :)
Nov 03 14:04:32 <quickdev> alphaone, as I understood it: the function is already there but there's no api call for it? :)
Nov 03 14:04:45 <rebelThor> why does everyone tell me "you have to keep the power button pressed for two secs to suspend"
Nov 03 14:04:59 <rebelThor> rules.yaml has - "HasAttr(duration, 0)"
Nov 03 14:05:04 <rebelThor> a short press suspends it
Nov 03 14:05:15 <alphaone> quickdev: 1 char = 1 char in gsm except for some special chars
Nov 03 14:05:35 <alphaone> quickdev: look at ogsmd/gsm/const.py
Nov 03 14:05:41 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: not everyone
Nov 03 14:05:44 <Ainulindale> Hiretto
Nov 03 14:05:49 <Ainulindale> I didn't tell that :-)
Nov 03 14:06:12 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: is it working then ?
Nov 03 14:06:17 <alphaone> the characters in GSMALPHABET are encoded as one char, the ones in GSMEXTALPHABET need two chars
Nov 03 14:06:17 <rebelThor> yeah
Nov 03 14:06:20 <rebelThor> it does
Nov 03 14:06:26 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: then please slap Hiretto :-)
Nov 03 14:06:28 <rebelThor> i was just pressing it longer, every time
Nov 03 14:06:38 <alphaone> max size is 160 chars with the default alphabet
Nov 03 14:06:44 <rebelThor> no reason to do that, he was really nice in helping me, and I really appreciate it
Nov 03 14:06:54 <alphaone> quickdev: The underlying functions are there, but not much more..
Nov 03 14:06:58 * Hiretto slaps himself
Nov 03 14:07:13 <rebelThor> thank you guys ;)
Nov 03 14:07:15 <quickdev> alphaone, thanks for info, maybe I could do some quick and dirty workaround :)
Nov 03 14:07:38 <alphaone> quickdev: that's why I mentioned it :-)
Nov 03 14:07:43 <Hiretto> sometimes... I fail
Nov 03 14:12:07 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: I know, I just like to tease Hiretto :-)
Nov 03 14:20:20 <rebelThor> i see that in the latest SHR image, starling is installed, but no plugin for handling mp3 files: ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg
Nov 03 14:21:29 <Hiretto> uhm
Nov 03 14:21:33 <Ainulindale> quickdev: got an answer from Sean
Nov 03 14:21:42 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: yep there was a problem with mad
Nov 03 14:21:46 <Hiretto> i think is missing some gst packages
Nov 03 14:21:49 <Ainulindale> I don't know if this has been fixed
Nov 03 14:22:46 <rebelThor> i guess that's the reason vagalumne doesn't work either
Nov 03 14:24:17 <Ainulindale> Yep
Nov 03 14:24:36 <Ainulindale> I was wondering why quickdev commented out mad inclusion, he wrote a comment but can't remember what it was
Nov 03 14:26:45 <Ainulindale> hey DocScrutinizer :-)
Nov 03 14:26:54 <DocScrutinizer> hey
Nov 03 14:30:19 <DocScrutinizer> Ainulindale: you have issues with #666?
Nov 03 14:30:32 <DocScrutinizer> (sim not detected)
Nov 03 14:30:57 <Ainulindale> Nope
Nov 03 14:31:12 <Ainulindale> Why ? :-)
Nov 03 14:31:24 <Ainulindale> DocScrutinizer: by the way Sean answered 
Nov 03 14:31:29 <DocScrutinizer> well, so it won't bother you we seem to have found the cause and fixed it
Nov 03 14:31:33 <tomboy64> hi Ainulindale
Nov 03 14:31:42 <Ainulindale> He circled around the question telling he'd ping you 
Nov 03 14:31:54 <Ainulindale> DocScrutinizer: Yes it interests me
Nov 03 14:31:57 <Ainulindale> DocScrutinizer: what was it ?
Nov 03 14:32:07 <DocScrutinizer> I'll meet him in 2 days ;-)
Nov 03 14:32:31 <DocScrutinizer> (666) calypso fw
Nov 03 14:32:58 <methril> i'd like to check with one of my SIM cards
Nov 03 14:33:01 <methril> :)
Nov 03 14:33:03 <methril> it's possible?
Nov 03 14:33:24 <DocScrutinizer> methril: you're sure what you're doing?
Nov 03 14:33:45 <methril> now i can not test, i'm at work :)
Nov 03 14:34:02 <methril> i'd liek to check it later
Nov 03 14:34:18 <DocScrutinizer> OM does NOT recommend to flash your GSM ATM! ;-)
Nov 03 14:34:24 <methril> i see
Nov 03 14:34:32 <methril> it's possible to lost the SIM?
Nov 03 14:34:36 <DocScrutinizer> so bricking Ur device is all on your own risk
Nov 03 14:34:43 <methril> hehehe
Nov 03 14:34:50 <tomboy64> what's the easiest way of building custom packages for shr?
Nov 03 14:34:56 <methril> if it's possible to reflash it...
Nov 03 14:35:13 <DocScrutinizer> this being said, I'd appreciate somwe customers testing it
Nov 03 14:35:25 <tomboy64> methril: it is, as long as you don't flash the uboot with the wrong version
Nov 03 14:35:27 <methril> i prefer to have my DBOAR here
Nov 03 14:35:39 <methril> s/DBOAR/DBOARD
Nov 03 14:35:51 <methril> i know, i'm not scared with u-boot
Nov 03 14:35:54 <methril> :)
Nov 03 14:35:58 <tomboy64> ^^
Nov 03 14:36:06 <methril> i'm dealing with it at job
Nov 03 14:36:10 <DocScrutinizer> methril: nah, flashing GSM-fw is a different storry
Nov 03 14:36:18 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: what do you mean ?
Nov 03 14:36:32 <methril> ok, i'm reading the GSM/Flashin wiki page
Nov 03 14:36:39 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: i'd like to package my own navit, and some other packages i found
Nov 03 14:36:49 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: for example blueman, a bluetooth frontend
Nov 03 14:36:50 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: Then you should build a .bb
Nov 03 14:36:58 <Ainulindale> i.e. a bitbake recipe
Nov 03 14:37:03 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: yes, but once i got that, what is required?
Nov 03 14:37:26 <tomboy64> i am familiar with the concept of recipes - it's almost the same as ebuilds in gentoo
Nov 03 14:37:29 <Ainulindale> You tell me "Hey buddy, I've got an awesome package here waiting for your ass to commit it. Pretty please ?" with deer eyes
Nov 03 14:37:37 <tomboy64> nope
Nov 03 14:37:39 <tomboy64> i won't
Nov 03 14:37:43 <Ainulindale> There's another variant which is "Hey buddy, I like commit access"
Nov 03 14:37:47 <methril> tomboy64: put into {OMDIR}/openembedded/packages/package_name.bb
Nov 03 14:37:49 <Ainulindale> +'d
Nov 03 14:37:53 <methril> and bitbake package_name
Nov 03 14:37:58 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: you won't ?
Nov 03 14:37:59 <tomboy64> i'll tell ya, i got a package and would like to share it with the rest of the world :)
Nov 03 14:38:14 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: Same thing in the end :-)
Nov 03 14:38:22 <tomboy64> i won't other people to do stuff i'd like to do myself :)
Nov 03 14:38:22 <methril> hehehe
Nov 03 14:38:25 <tomboy64> *ask
Nov 03 14:38:32 <Ainulindale> If you're interested in commit access for this kind of thing, I can give it to you :-)
Nov 03 14:38:39 <tomboy64> mhmm
Nov 03 14:38:39 <methril> oh""
Nov 03 14:38:41 <methril> !!!
Nov 03 14:38:42 <Ainulindale> As long as you don't put any kind of mess in the sources
Nov 03 14:38:59 <Ainulindale> quickdev: we should separate the repositories
Nov 03 14:39:02 <tomboy64> offer me again after i did a half-dozen recipes and you're content with their quality
Nov 03 14:39:03 <Ainulindale> sources/packages
Nov 03 14:39:23 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: then give me these recipes, I'll commit them with your "copyright/left", and we'll test them :-)
Nov 03 14:39:28 <methril> DocScrutinizer: What happens if the GSM FW gets bad flashed or something like taht?
Nov 03 14:39:38 <tomboy64> that's the spirit
Nov 03 14:39:40 <methril> it's a possiblility to re-flash it?
Nov 03 14:40:06 <rebelThor> daaaamn, that's one weird default ringtone :D
Nov 03 14:40:19 <tomboy64> now, what make-target will i have to do with the shr-makefile to actually build against my current lib-versions on the phone?
Nov 03 14:40:41 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: i still couldn't finish "make image"
Nov 03 14:40:47 <Ainulindale> make shr-image
Nov 03 14:40:51 <Ainulindale> (I think)
Nov 03 14:40:52 <tomboy64> uhm
Nov 03 14:40:59 <Ainulindale> I don't know what it is, I use bitbake
Nov 03 14:41:01 <tomboy64> no, make image in shr-testing
Nov 03 14:41:07 <Ainulindale> (as I'm a gentoo fanboy too)
Nov 03 14:41:14 <methril> i use bitbake too
Nov 03 14:41:17 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: then use bitbake :-)
Nov 03 14:41:18 <tomboy64> it hangs at bitbake shr-image
Nov 03 14:41:25 <Ainulindale> it doesn't hang
Nov 03 14:41:26 <quickdev> Ainulindale, here for a few minutes
Nov 03 14:41:28 <tomboy64> yeah
Nov 03 14:41:29 <Ainulindale> it builds rootfs
Nov 03 14:41:32 <tomboy64> it freaks out
Nov 03 14:41:32 <quickdev> what did sean say?
Nov 03 14:41:33 <tomboy64> i know
Nov 03 14:41:34 <methril> AFAIK is make shr-testing-image
Nov 03 14:41:36 <Ainulindale> which is long and painful
Nov 03 14:41:39 <Ainulindale> quickdev: no problem with names
Nov 03 14:41:42 <Ainulindale> And thanks for the works :-)
Nov 03 14:41:47 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: the build fails.
Nov 03 14:41:48 <DocScrutinizer> methril: not yet known - possibly brick your modem 
Nov 03 14:41:48 <quickdev> hehe, fine
Nov 03 14:42:01 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: maybe because you don't have our special tree
Nov 03 14:42:06 <Ainulindale> Or special tree(at)
Nov 03 14:42:06 <quickdev> Ainulindale, let's eventually create a git repository for a) sources and b) packages?
Nov 03 14:42:09 <methril> DocScrutinizer: Whitout warranty ? :(
Nov 03 14:42:11 <Ainulindale> quickdev: yep
Nov 03 14:42:16 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: which one would that be?
Nov 03 14:42:26 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: org.openembedded.dev + raster patches
Nov 03 14:42:31 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I commented about mad because compilation didn't work
Nov 03 14:42:37 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: Anyway as long as it builds and works on your device
Nov 03 14:42:42 <Ainulindale> Regardless of the way to build it
Nov 03 14:42:46 <Ainulindale> It will build on the buildhost
Nov 03 14:42:50 <Ainulindale> So please don't mind about that
Nov 03 14:42:51 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I'll upgrade the build process tomorrow
Nov 03 14:43:02 <DocScrutinizer> methril: that's why I told we will need some days until we publish
Nov 03 14:43:06 <Ainulindale> quickdev: and do you know if it works now ?
Nov 03 14:43:10 <tomboy64> alright
Nov 03 14:43:21 <quickdev> Ainulindale, gst-mad? don't know
Nov 03 14:43:32 <quickdev> should have openend a ticket
Nov 03 14:44:00 <quickdev> for not forgetting it
Nov 03 14:44:07 <quickdev> Have to go now...back in an hour
Nov 03 14:44:28 <Ainulindale> Same here, I'm here now and then but I've got work to do
Nov 03 14:50:24 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: how do i get raster's patches?
Nov 03 14:50:40 <tomboy64> i am on git-branch org.oe... .dev
Nov 03 14:51:38 <tomboy64> DocScrutinizer, quickdev?
Nov 03 14:52:08 <Ainulindale> tomboy64: I can ensure you there's no use to apply them if you just want to compile navit
Nov 03 14:52:16 <Ainulindale> If you wish to build your own image though... 
Nov 03 14:52:39 <tomboy64> well, the question is, would shr-testing-tree be better than?
Nov 03 14:53:03 <methril> than,. FSO?
Nov 03 14:53:10 <Ainulindale> Didn't understand your question tomboy64 :-)
Nov 03 14:53:23 * rebelThor wonders where you can change the ringtone on shr...
Nov 03 14:53:43 <tomboy64> rebelThor: it's awful, ain't it? :-D
Nov 03 14:54:01 <tomboy64> Ainulindale: nm :-x
Nov 03 14:54:06 <rebelThor> it's.. not really my kind of tune ;)
Nov 03 14:54:10 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: /etc/freesmartphone/opreferencesd/conf/phone/default.yaml
Nov 03 14:54:15 <Ainulindale> Or something like that
Nov 03 14:54:19 <rebelThor> thank you
Nov 03 14:54:23 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: It's mickey|bbl ringtone
Nov 03 14:54:29 <Ainulindale> And it's way too awful
Nov 03 15:02:49 <rebelThor> i see that restarting frameworkd means i don't get notified of any incoming calls :(
Nov 03 15:07:39 <methril> you have to restart the sw or try smbus -s
Nov 03 15:07:51 <methril> it gets a connection to the zhone
Nov 03 15:08:22 <methril> i'm testing with other paltform, and works like that
Nov 03 15:12:49 <Ainulindale> rebelThor
Nov 03 15:12:53 <Ainulindale> 16:08:12 < Ainulindale> rebelThor: you have to restart ophonekitd
Nov 03 15:12:53 <Ainulindale> 16:08:18 < Ainulindale> Man we should handle that
Nov 03 15:13:12 <Ainulindale> (killall -9 ophonekitd; DISPLAY=":0" ophonekitd&)
Nov 03 15:13:24 <Ainulindale> rebelThor: please open a trac ticket for that :-)
Nov 03 15:13:35 <rebelThor> i'll try to remember to do that ;)
Nov 03 15:13:44 <rebelThor> right now i have to split ;)
Nov 03 15:14:20 <Ainulindale> Long live the split
Nov 03 16:10:33 <Ainulindale> quickdev: I have stability issues
Nov 03 16:10:41 <Ainulindale> After a while ophonekitd seems to crash
Nov 03 16:10:48 <Ainulindale> (No mean to have the logs here)
Nov 03 16:11:14 <Ainulindale> And I'm not even sure of that as dialer crashes too
Nov 03 16:11:30 <Ainulindale> (though if ophonekitd crashed, as dialer doesn't request the gsm resource...)
Nov 03 16:15:30 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I think I have the same issue
Nov 03 16:15:55 <Ainulindale> quickdev: by the way
Nov 03 16:16:01 <Ainulindale> I posted on the community list
Nov 03 16:16:20 <Ainulindale> It would be nice if you could add a stone to the work :-)
Nov 03 16:17:05 <Ainulindale> ("Paroli project")
Nov 03 16:17:12 <quickdev> "stone" ?
Nov 03 16:17:14 <Ainulindale> I guess that was something you were talking about
Nov 03 16:17:24 <Ainulindale> quickdev: Yeah, I guess it's an idiomatic expression
Nov 03 16:17:30 <Ainulindale> "Please help" :-)
Nov 03 16:17:33 <quickdev> it's an application name
Nov 03 16:17:42 <Ainulindale> What ? stone ?
Nov 03 16:19:27 <quickdev> Ainulindale, "paroli"
Nov 03 16:19:35 <quickdev> Ainulindale, what do you mean by stone?
Nov 03 16:19:54 <Ainulindale> 17:17:24 < Ainulindale> quickdev: Yeah, I guess it's an idiomatic expression
Nov 03 16:20:00 <quickdev> Ainulindale, the gsm thing seems to be a frameworkd issue
Nov 03 16:20:23 <quickdev> to the work? which work?  I don't get you :)
Nov 03 16:20:27 <Ainulindale> In french we say "Ajouter une pierre a l'ouvrage"
Nov 03 16:20:28 <Ainulindale> Which is to say
Nov 03 16:20:33 <Ainulindale> Help to build something
Nov 03 16:20:37 <Ainulindale> In this case the argument
Nov 03 16:20:50 <Ainulindale> Please read my answer and you'll understand
Nov 03 16:21:02 <Ainulindale> Please also study for your test
Nov 03 16:21:06 <Ainulindale> Or I shall destroy you once again
Nov 03 16:22:48 <quickdev> Ainulindale, which message? maybe it wasn't trasmitted to me yet
Nov 03 16:23:22 <Ainulindale> Thread "Paroli project"
Nov 03 16:23:52 <Ainulindale> (trying to find the nabble thread)
Nov 03 16:24:27 <quickdev> it's not on shr-devel? say that..
Nov 03 16:24:34 <Ainulindale> 17:15:55 < Ainulindale> quickdev: by the way
Nov 03 16:24:34 <Ainulindale> 17:16:02 < Ainulindale> I posted on the community list
Nov 03 16:24:42 <quickdev> shr community, hehe
Nov 03 16:24:48 <Ainulindale> There's no shr community list :-)
Nov 03 16:24:52 <Ainulindale> There's a shr-devel list
Nov 03 16:25:51 <Hire|study> argh
Nov 03 16:26:05 <Hire|study> network security is MADNESS
Nov 03 16:26:59 <Ainulindale> Sissy :-)
Nov 03 16:27:43 <Hire|study> sissy?
Nov 03 16:27:46 <quickdev> Ainulindale, I should make a post...but I have to learn..damn ;)
Nov 03 16:27:58 <Ainulindale> quickdev: heh :-)
Nov 03 16:28:10 <Hiretto> ah ehm
Nov 03 16:28:15 <quickdev> Ainulindale, maybe I'll get to it tomorrow
Nov 03 16:28:21 <Ainulindale> Hiretto: Just teasing you :-)
Nov 03 16:28:40 <Hiretto> because the last artworker is dissappeared
Nov 03 16:29:03 <quickdev> Ainulindale, will be back in an our
Nov 03 16:29:10 <Hiretto> i am "working" on icons
Nov 03 16:29:23 <quickdev> Ainulindale, you should have mentioned that there's a little contacts and sms app ;)
Nov 03 16:29:28 <Hiretto> Ainulindale: as usually :o
Nov 03 16:30:00 <Ainulindale> quickdev: there is ?
Nov 03 16:30:06 <Ainulindale> Didn't see that
Nov 03 16:37:08 <quickdev> Ainulindale, of course you know that we have openmoko-messages/contacts
Nov 03 16:37:48 <Ainulindale> Ah you were talking about my message
Nov 03 16:38:05 <Ainulindale> Well, yes
Nov 03 16:38:09 <Ainulindale> I didn't, shame on me :-)
Nov 03 16:38:12 <Ainulindale> Please answer and correct that
Nov 03 16:38:14 <Ainulindale> At once !
Nov 03 16:38:15 <Ainulindale> :-)
Nov 03 16:58:30 <Hiretto> sadness
Nov 03 16:59:10 <Hiretto> i am not so bravo with gimp
Nov 03 16:59:12 <Hiretto> *sigh*
Nov 03 16:59:34 <Hiretto> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/474a7f9890a049d5df68fe3cc8e5482c.png
Nov 03 16:59:43 <Hiretto> i am working on the icons 
Nov 03 17:01:22 <Ainulindale> Nice
Nov 03 17:01:28 <Ainulindale> A bit green to my taste 
Nov 03 17:02:46 <Hiretto> what do you prefer?
Nov 03 17:03:17 <Ainulindale> As a color ?
Nov 03 17:03:41 <Hiretto> yes :>
Nov 03 17:04:00 <Ainulindale> Errr
Nov 03 17:04:04 <Ainulindale> Does terminal count as a color ?
Nov 03 17:05:45 <Hiretto> black??
Nov 03 17:05:50 <Ainulindale> :-)
Nov 03 17:06:13 <Hiretto> but black is... too black :|
Nov 03 17:06:28 <Ainulindale> :-)
Nov 03 17:06:33 <Hiretto> :(
Nov 03 17:09:14 <Hiretto> green is for the telephony
Nov 03 17:09:20 <Hiretto> blue is for internet
Nov 03 17:09:48 <Hiretto> grey is for the settings
Nov 03 17:10:02 <Hiretto> and others those I don't know :o
Nov 03 17:24:37 <mrmoku> quickdev: sms view shows 'Date' instead of the actual date - known or should I open a ticket?
Nov 03 17:27:30 <quickdev> mrmoku, known and fixed on my local repository..will commit it tomorrow or in 2 days ;)
Nov 03 17:27:42 <mrmoku> ok :)
Nov 03 17:28:25 <quickdev> Hiretto, I like your icons! :)
Nov 03 17:29:34 <Hiretto> oh nice
Nov 03 17:29:50 <Ainulindale> mickey|bbl: interesting stack on shr-devel list
Nov 03 17:30:07 <Ainulindale> Nov  2 09:49:20 om-gta02 user.err 2008.11.02 09:49:20 ogsmd    ERROR
Nov 03 17:30:07 <Ainulindale> unhandled exception in response callback: invalid literal for int() with
Nov 03 17:30:10 <Ainulindale> base 10: 'OK' Traceback (most recent call last):   File
Nov 03 17:30:13 <Ainulindale> "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py",
Nov 03 17:30:16 <Ainulindale> line 3
Nov 03 17:30:32 <Ainulindale> quickdev: I guess we should fix the frameworkd version ocne more
Nov 03 17:32:10 <quickdev> Ainulindale, no problem
Nov 03 17:32:13 <quickdev> do it ;)
Nov 03 17:32:18 <Ainulindale> Can't, I'm leaving now
Nov 03 17:32:25 <Ainulindale> See you tomorrow
Nov 03 17:32:55 <Hiretto> bye Ainulindale have a nice evening 
Nov 03 17:35:48 <sicu> ok, so i'm gone for a week, and all of a sudden green is the new black :p
Nov 03 17:37:54 <quickdev> hrr :)
Nov 03 17:38:29 <quickdev> sicu, I like that shiny little icons..they've got a nice contrast to the background
Nov 03 17:39:47 <sicu> quickdev: yeh, it looks good to me =]
Nov 03 17:40:39 <sicu> the green reminds me a little of qtopia ... though the week outta the game might've left my memory a little blurred
Nov 03 17:47:42 <Hiretto> O_o
Nov 03 17:48:15 <Hiretto> i am working on it 
Nov 03 17:48:22 <Hiretto> i will do a preview now :o
Nov 03 17:52:12 <Hiretto> away
Nov 03 18:01:40 <quickdev> sicu, I don't know how it looks either, but qtopia's look isn't too bad ;)
Nov 03 18:07:27 <Hiretto> http://okiwii.net/images/6cmhkzl2noaft53gden8.jpg <-- the icons
Nov 03 18:07:58 <Hiretto> the screen is in jpg so the quality is bad
Nov 03 18:08:21 <Hiretto> the quality of the screen, obvious :o
Nov 03 18:08:28 <mickey|bbl> Ainulindale: hmm, that looks truncated. line 3 
Nov 03 18:14:49 <||Leto||> Hiretto: i like that theme
Nov 03 18:15:21 <tomboy64> how bout some more colours? purple, pink, red, yellow etc.?
Nov 03 18:18:26 <sicu> Hiretto: the gialla and marrone base look a little too similar ... or perhaps it's the jpeg messing things up?
Nov 03 18:18:48 <sicu> if not, then i'd add a little more contrast to the two
Nov 03 18:23:30 <bumbl> i get connect(): No such file or directory when booting shr-testing 
Nov 03 18:23:50 <bumbl> it boots fine though (it just takes its time)
Nov 03 18:24:59 <quickdev> bumbl, ignore that messages ;)
Nov 03 18:25:31 <bumbl> ok
Nov 03 18:25:57 <bumbl> and: the nov 2nd image does not have the beautiful new icons :(
Nov 03 18:27:50 <quickdev> Hiretto, well done. I'm looking forward to use them. btw...sicu is right, marrone and gialla have too little contrast...do we need marrone at all? is there a functional difference? :)
Nov 03 18:31:32 <quickdev> bumbl, they were designed some hours ago - I assume a package will follow ;)
Nov 03 18:33:04 <Hiretto> uhm
Nov 03 18:33:09 <Hiretto> i get it
Nov 03 18:33:27 <quickdev> Hiretto, you got what? ;)
Nov 03 18:33:32 <Hiretto> so, instead of marrone ( brown ) what can I use?
Nov 03 18:33:42 <quickdev> Hiretto, do you need another color group at all?
Nov 03 18:34:10 <Hiretto> yes
Nov 03 18:34:25 <Hiretto> what can I use as color? :o
Nov 03 18:34:38 <Hiretto> purple? pink? white? red? orange?
Nov 03 18:34:39 <bumbl> ah good
Nov 03 18:34:58 <bumbl> I might show the moko at the next lug meeting on wednesday
Nov 03 18:35:05 <bumbl> -> it needs to get pimped
Nov 03 18:35:24 <quickdev> bumbl, what's a "lug" meeting? :)
Nov 03 18:35:59 <bumbl> linux user group
Nov 03 18:36:28 <quickdev> bumbl, where are you from?
Nov 03 18:36:55 <bumbl> austria
Nov 03 18:38:45 <toggles_w> bumbl: are there really kangaroos in the street?
Nov 03 18:38:49 <quickdev> bumbl, maybe I get ready to commit my latest changes till wednesday and configure the buildhost. then you would have the newest, even better working/looking illume and some phone apps, which are muchmore beatiful because of elementary integration ;)
Nov 03 18:39:10 <bumbl> toggles_w: yes#
Nov 03 18:39:16 <bumbl> they are everywhere
Nov 03 18:39:19 <toggles_w> bumbl: rofl
Nov 03 18:39:31 <bumbl> I even have one in my flat
Nov 03 18:39:34 <fenfir> when ever i try and build shr-testing i get "Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['shr-image', 'e-wm-config-illume']"
Nov 03 18:39:41 <bumbl> quickdev: that would be cool
Nov 03 18:39:48 <toggles_w> lol, i'm actually from perth, i really did have them as pets
Nov 03 18:40:00 <quickdev> fenfir, atm shr is only building with raster openembedded branch or his patches
Nov 03 18:40:07 <bumbl> but if not - no problem at all
Nov 03 18:40:17 <fenfir> quickdev: ahh, thanks
Nov 03 18:40:21 <bumbl> toggles_w: haha
Nov 03 18:41:07 <Hiretto> the navit's icon is bit ugly
Nov 03 18:41:37 <toggles_w> bumbl: people in the states think ktm's are an austraLian bike ;-)
Nov 03 18:41:46 <bumbl> hahaha
Nov 03 18:41:57 <bumbl> here these ones are bestsellers http://bp1.blogger.com/_ynmg1qmnHfc/Ruz1l6sMSAI/AAAAAAAAAf0/1g_jNWysWOM/s320/kangaroos.jpg
Nov 03 18:42:24 <toggles_w> LOL
Nov 03 18:42:33 <Hiretto> quickdev: http://www.okiwii.net/images/yq27dvxlz6fmmvuy6ovf.jpg
Nov 03 18:43:10 <toggles_w> bumbl: http://exoticmeats.com/catdescmain.aspx?f=9 my favorite
Nov 03 18:43:25 <quickdev> Hiretto, remove marrone and everything is fine :)
Nov 03 18:43:37 <Hiretto> removed :o
Nov 03 18:43:57 <bumbl> toggles_w: link redirects to http://exoticmeats.com/home.aspx
Nov 03 18:43:58 <Hiretto> bye bye marrone
Nov 03 18:44:03 <Hiretto> have a nice journey
Nov 03 18:44:19 <toggles_w> weird..
Nov 03 18:45:34 <bumbl> ahh
Nov 03 18:45:45 <bumbl> *turns on cookies* *turns on js*
Nov 03 18:45:55 * bumbl hands toggles_w a cookie
Nov 03 18:46:49 <bumbl> toggles_w: you can eat kangaroo here too
Nov 03 18:50:34 <Hiretto> quickdev: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/8fd801028e065a9645c4899369b083d6.png
Nov 03 18:50:43 <Hiretto> i need some ideas for tangogps
Nov 03 18:51:18 <quickdev> Hiretto, yeah, just wanted to say that tangogps is a bit out of style ;)
Nov 03 18:51:40 <quickdev> Hiretto, maybe a grey road with white lines on it?
Nov 03 18:51:53 <Hiretto> ehhh
Nov 03 18:51:59 <Hiretto> it is hard to me :\
Nov 03 18:52:07 <toggles_w> bumbl: not enough over here
Nov 03 18:52:41 <bumbl> actually it's not the best meat
Nov 03 18:53:11 <toggles_w> probably due to travel
Nov 03 18:53:20 <toggles_w> Hiretto: what image is that link from?
Nov 03 18:53:42 <bumbl> toggles_w: yeah
Nov 03 18:54:11 <Hiretto> it is from gpe-scap 
Nov 03 18:54:13 <bumbl> it tastes a bit like beef
Nov 03 18:54:23 <toggles_w> Hiretto: thanks
Nov 03 18:54:36 <toggles_w> bumbl: yeah, very lean beef unless it's farm raised
Nov 03 18:55:01 <bumbl> yep
Nov 03 18:55:18 <Hiretto> quickdev: i resolved
Nov 03 18:55:19 <toggles_w> Hiretto: oh, i meant openmoko image (jffs2)
Nov 03 18:55:56 <Hiretto> ahhh
Nov 03 18:55:58 <Hiretto> shr :D
Nov 03 18:56:03 <quickdev> toggles_w, it's just a screenshot..no image/package so far
Nov 03 18:56:06 <toggles_w> Hiretto: thanks
Nov 03 18:56:07 <bumbl> toggles_w: actually we have really good beef here
Nov 03 18:56:09 <quickdev> for the icons(!)
Nov 03 18:56:21 <Hiretto> but I used a my custom edje
Nov 03 18:56:35 <Hiretto> that changes gsm, wifi, bluetooth and wp
Nov 03 18:56:48 <toggles_w> bumbl: yeah, i've travelled a bit in that area of the world, food is great
Nov 03 18:56:55 <toggles_w> Hiretto quickdev thanks!
Nov 03 18:57:33 <quickdev> toggles_w, you've travelled through austria or australia? :)
Nov 03 18:58:05 <Hiretto> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/15f203093bcf225abe499239afc3b736.png
Nov 03 18:58:12 <Hiretto> et voilà, tangogps fixed
Nov 03 18:58:51 <quickdev> Hiretto, well done
Nov 03 18:59:02 <quickdev> Hiretto, have all used icon subparts a gpl license?
Nov 03 18:59:36 <Hiretto> yes, all gpl :D
Nov 03 19:00:18 <Hiretto> the wp is gpl too
Nov 03 19:01:02 <quickdev> wp?
Nov 03 19:02:06 <bumbl> wallpaper?
Nov 03 19:02:21 <toggles_w> quickdev: born/lived in australia, travelled the general area, switz/italy/finland/(y)UK etc
Nov 03 19:04:35 <Hiretto> yes, wallpaper :D
Nov 03 19:07:14 <Hiretto> italy?
Nov 03 19:07:20 <Hiretto> nice, because I am italian :D
Nov 03 19:07:36 <Hiretto> I had travelled all the europe
Nov 03 19:08:01 <toggles_w> yeah, went to a wedding in piachenza just outside milan, the food there was phenomenal...
Nov 03 19:08:29 <Hiretto> I want to see USA, Australia, Tokyo ( so I can meet rasterman ) and China
Nov 03 19:08:32 <Hiretto> piacenza :D
Nov 03 19:09:13 <toggles_w> Hiretto: yeah, i knew i'd get it wrong, left an 'o' off milan too ;-)
Nov 03 19:09:58 <Hiretto> we are the #1 states on the world as food 
Nov 03 19:10:23 <toggles_w> i was very very impressed
Nov 03 19:10:42 <Hiretto> you need to go to florence if you like the meat 
Nov 03 19:11:01 <Hiretto> or Rome and naples if you want to taste the real good food
Nov 03 19:11:30 <toggles_w> yeah, i need more money and more vacation time ;-)
Nov 03 19:12:04 * bumbl has eaten too much pasta back when I was in Assisi
Nov 03 19:12:11 <bumbl> s/I/he
Nov 03 19:12:11 * mwester pops in to comment that he really enjoyed the food on his trip to Italy -- wonderful place.
Nov 03 19:12:12 * tomboy64 swoons
Nov 03 19:12:15 <Hiretto> ohhh
Nov 03 19:12:18 <Hiretto> it's pasta
Nov 03 19:12:22 <tomboy64> Hiretto: looks sweet
Nov 03 19:13:25 <Hiretto> i'm so happy to see so much people those likes so much Italy :D
Nov 03 19:14:53 <bumbl> Italian food is good but I like Indian, Austrian, French too
Nov 03 19:15:12 <Hiretto> i like chinese food
Nov 03 19:15:18 * toggles_w is thinking of going to india for xmas, looking forward to lots of curry
Nov 03 19:15:21 <bumbl> ah yes
Nov 03 19:15:29 <Hiretto> i love chinese food
Nov 03 19:15:34 <bumbl> I forgot the Asian food
Nov 03 19:15:34 <tomboy64> Hiretto: where can i get those icons? how can i install them?
Nov 03 19:15:42 <Hiretto> ehhh
Nov 03 19:16:03 <Hiretto> when quickdev put them into shr you can use them :D
Nov 03 19:16:11 <tomboy64> -.-
Nov 03 19:16:14 <tomboy64> meh
Nov 03 19:16:17 <Hiretto> or...
Nov 03 19:16:19 <Hiretto> if you want...
Nov 03 19:16:28 <tomboy64> yeeeesh?
Nov 03 19:16:38 * tomboy64 jumps up and down excitedly
Nov 03 19:16:47 <Hiretto> but you need to edit into /usr/share/applications every .desktop files
Nov 03 19:16:52 <quickdev> Hiretto, did you only add the icons or did you modify the .desktop files?
Nov 03 19:17:03 <quickdev> ah, ok ;)
Nov 03 19:17:06 <tomboy64> Hiretto: can't i simply replace the icons?
Nov 03 19:17:15 <Hiretto> i have modified the .desktop files
Nov 03 19:17:27 <Hiretto> tomboy64: no :D
Nov 03 19:17:39 <tomboy64> why???????????
Nov 03 19:17:40 <Hiretto> i can do it with  a .edje files...
Nov 03 19:17:41 <tomboy64> :-D
Nov 03 19:17:47 <quickdev> btw., messages is already ported to elementary. dialer almost, too.
Nov 03 19:17:56 <Hiretto> nice quickdev :D
Nov 03 19:17:59 <Hiretto> good work :)
Nov 03 19:19:54 <Hiretto> tomboy64: you need to pu all the icons into a dir
Nov 03 19:20:08 <Hiretto> next you need to edit .desktop files
Nov 03 19:20:13 <Hiretto> and next restart X
Nov 03 19:20:24 <Hiretto> with /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restasrt
Nov 03 19:20:28 <Hiretto> restart
Nov 03 19:20:28 <tomboy64> what's elementary?
Nov 03 19:20:30 <quickdev> Hiretto, maybe there's a better way than changing .desktop files
Nov 03 19:20:46 <quickdev> tomboy64, the brand new enlightenment mobile toolkit developed by raster
Nov 03 19:20:51 <Hiretto> for now I have did so :D
Nov 03 19:21:02 <bumbl> tomboy64: elementary == genius
Nov 03 19:21:44 <tomboy64> yay for raster!
Nov 03 19:22:09 <Hiretto> but
Nov 03 19:22:16 <Hiretto> SHR supports a index.theme?
Nov 03 19:24:31 <Hiretto> now I polish the pack
Nov 03 19:26:26 <Hiretto> :\
Nov 03 19:27:03 <Hiretto> how can I call the pack?
Nov 03 19:27:06 <Hiretto> shr-icons? :o
Nov 03 19:27:10 <Hiretto> shr-colors? :o
Nov 03 19:29:26 <quickdev> Hiretto, you should ask Ainulindale about that...he already planned to do some icon / theme package
Nov 03 19:29:39 <Hiretto> i see
Nov 03 19:29:45 <Hiretto> because now i want to do a nick pack
Nov 03 19:29:58 <Hiretto> nice
Nov 03 19:31:15 <Hiretto> when he will be online i will ask him
Nov 03 19:31:25 <Hiretto> *sigh*
Nov 03 19:35:54 <tomboy64> does someone know anything about openmoko-agpsui2
Nov 03 19:35:56 <tomboy64> ?
Nov 03 19:37:00 <Hiretto> for what? :D
Nov 03 19:37:09 <Hiretto> you can install it into SHR
Nov 03 19:37:14 <tomboy64> hehehe
Nov 03 19:37:18 <Hiretto> however I use tangogps
Nov 03 19:37:21 <tomboy64> i have no idea where to find it
Nov 03 19:37:27 <Hiretto> simple
Nov 03 19:37:34 <Hiretto> you can put the repo of openmoko
Nov 03 19:37:37 <tomboy64> yes, but i'd like to see when it has its fix
Nov 03 19:37:39 <Hiretto> install openmoko
Nov 03 19:37:42 <tomboy64> and not wait for it forever
Nov 03 19:37:51 <Hiretto> ah
Nov 03 19:37:53 <Hiretto> well
Nov 03 19:38:01 <Hiretto> you can install it or another app
Nov 03 19:38:05 <tomboy64> openmoko-agpsui was quite helpful
Nov 03 19:38:19 <tomboy64> now i'd like to see if v2 has improvements
Nov 03 19:38:25 <Hiretto> http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=108
Nov 03 19:38:27 <Hiretto> gps sight :o
Nov 03 19:38:45 * tomboy64 gives it a shot
Nov 03 19:39:04 <Hiretto> when I have time
Nov 03 19:39:12 <Hiretto> i want to create a simple notes for SHR
Nov 03 19:45:19 <tomboy64> how can i switch off suspend completely?
Nov 03 19:45:21 <quickdev> Any native english speaker here? Is there a better term for dial pad?
Nov 03 19:45:22 <tomboy64> through the gui?
Nov 03 19:45:33 <quickdev> tomboy64, connect a cable ;)
Nov 03 19:45:39 <quickdev> it's not possible atm
Nov 03 19:45:55 <tomboy64> quickdev: dial plate
Nov 03 19:46:17 <tomboy64> but it's usually for for old phones
Nov 03 19:46:24 <tomboy64> i'd simply say dialer
Nov 03 19:46:29 <Hiretto> dial plate? :|
Nov 03 19:46:45 <tomboy64> yup
Nov 03 19:47:06 <Hiretto> quickdev
Nov 03 19:47:08 <Hiretto> keypad
Nov 03 19:47:16 <Hiretto> keypad is better :)
Nov 03 19:47:19 <tomboy64> keypad is good, too
Nov 03 19:47:32 <quickdev> keypad is very smart, thanks
Nov 03 19:48:33 <Hiretto> np :)
Nov 03 19:49:27 <tomboy64> yep
Nov 03 19:49:34 <tomboy64> hiretto smart, tomboy64 dumb -.-
Nov 03 19:49:39 <tomboy64> quickdev cruel
Nov 03 19:49:43 * tomboy64 goes crying :-P
Nov 03 19:50:14 <Hiretto> sure i am smart
Nov 03 19:50:19 <Hiretto> i am the perfect guy
Nov 03 20:21:35 <Flyser> quickdev: 
Nov 03 20:22:12 <Flyser> quickdev: http://shr.projects.openmoko.org/ still says 2007.2 (just to let you know)
Nov 03 20:22:39 <quickdev> Flyser, thanks. Ainulindale, do you have projects.openmoko access?
Nov 03 20:22:45 <quickdev> we should delete it
Nov 03 20:24:11 <Flyser> quickdev: also see the latest community digest. a) You should add SHR there and b) it says sth. about SHR & 2007.2
Nov 03 20:24:36 <quickdev> Flyser, community digest? Where is it?
Nov 03 20:25:37 <Hiretto> on wiki
Nov 03 20:25:45 <Hiretto> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/November_2nd%2C_2008
Nov 03 20:27:26 <quickdev> removed it there
Nov 03 20:28:23 <quickdev> Flyser, thanks for reporting
Nov 03 20:30:27 <quickdev> I'll update the distributions page
Nov 03 20:34:30 <quickdev> done
Nov 03 20:51:54 <thseiler> does someone by change know how to regenerate Packages.gz with openembedded ? Is there a task that handles this ?
Nov 03 21:17:21 <FilipLinux4BE> anyone here has trouble with wifi; can connect only ones, have to reboot to get it working again ?
Nov 03 21:17:53 <FilipLinux4BE> I might have a workaround, looking for someone to test....
Nov 03 21:22:06 <quickdev> alphaone, here? I think I found a bug in frameworkd
Nov 03 21:22:19 <alphaone> quickdev:  I'm there
Nov 03 21:24:16 <quickdev> alphaone, while suspended an incoming message arrived, the phone woke up, but there was no incoming message sound. Furthermore the gsm was disabled. http://rafb.net/p/O2ctmx57.html Could you have a look?
Nov 03 21:24:45 <alphaone> quickdev: Will do in a minute
Nov 03 21:28:08 <quickdev> alphaone, I think I've got a very recent frameworkd version.
Nov 03 21:33:04 <quickdev> alphaone, I thought if it was a problem of my application, but that wouldn't explain why there's no incoming message sound.
Nov 03 21:33:41 <alphaone> quickdev: There's a problem when you resume on incoming message
Nov 03 21:33:59 <quickdev> alphaone, is it known?
Nov 03 21:34:11 <alphaone> You will get the incoming signal message right away, but the GSM is still in state "resuming"
Nov 03 21:34:25 <alphaone> quickdev: I'm not sure if that's the problem in your case
Nov 03 21:34:46 <quickdev> alphaone, but GSM shouldn't be disabled, right?
Nov 03 21:35:13 <alphaone> It looks like that's your problem
Nov 03 21:35:45 <alphaone> I assume that the consumer dies due to this unexpected error and then the resource is released
Nov 03 21:36:17 <quickdev> yeah, ok, then there's some incoming message problematic in libframeworkd-glib probably
Nov 03 21:36:23 <quickdev> alphaone, and no incoming message sound?
Nov 03 21:36:32 <ajuonline> alphaone: pm?
Nov 03 21:36:47 <alphaone> quickdev: 2008.11.03 03:47:01 oeventsd INFO     Start ringing : tone=notify_message.mp3, volume=10                                                                     
Nov 03 21:36:47 <alphaone> 2008.11.03 03:47:01 oeventsd INFO     call dbus signal /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio PlaySound((u'/usr/share/sounds/notify_message.mp3',))                
Nov 03 21:36:52 <alphaone> should actually work
Nov 03 21:36:57 <alphaone> pm?
Nov 03 21:37:07 <ajuonline> alphaone: /msg
Nov 03 21:37:27 <alphaone> ajuonline: I got nothing..
Nov 03 21:37:40 <alphaone> ajuonline: You known to services?
Nov 03 21:38:14 <quickdev> alphaone, sorry for disturbing you, will try to find the culprit
Nov 03 21:38:36 <alphaone> quickdev: Well, the resume handling is broken
Nov 03 21:39:00 <alphaone> There is a ticket for that, but we don't have a good idea on how to fix it at the moment
Nov 03 21:39:51 <alphaone> So either the IncomingMessage signal needs to be deferred of method calls need to still work (maybe with some delay, though) if the resource is resuming
Nov 03 21:40:59 <quickdev> alphaone, but GSM shouldn't be released by the consumer :)
Nov 03 21:42:16 <alphaone> quickdev: Yeah, I know
Nov 03 21:42:28 <alphaone> quickdev: Can you check whether the consumer dies?
Nov 03 21:42:47 <alphaone> quickdev: Because I don't see why it should switch to disabled otherwise
Nov 03 21:43:01 <quickdev> alphaone, of course, one moment
Nov 03 22:24:21 <FilipLinux4BE> if someone wants to try WiFi reconnect : http://pastebin.com/m3a62e503
Nov 03 22:56:32 <thseiler> ras
Nov 03 22:56:51 <thseiler> sorry...
Nov 03 22:57:22 <Kensan> thseiler: hi thomas :)
Nov 03 22:57:40 <thseiler> hi :-)
Nov 03 22:58:10 <Kensan> so when are you guys going to organize the next community meeting in Bern? ;)
Nov 03 22:58:39 <thseiler> hopefully soonish... right now im a bit absorbed with prepating a demo...
Nov 03 22:58:57 <thseiler> but I think we could make a christmas special ;-)
Nov 03 22:59:05 <Kensan> nice!
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