**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 17 02:59:56 2009 Jan 17 03:00:44 hrm Jan 17 03:00:57 my app segfaults, but not in only one place Jan 17 03:01:02 and not reliably Jan 17 03:40:28 crap Jan 17 03:40:33 Anton :( Jan 17 03:41:07 i think it may be at least related to elementary not doing any safety checking atm :) Jan 17 03:42:05 since like 99% of my app is calls to efl atm, and about 90% of that is elementary stuff Jan 17 03:44:04 Dave: otoh, i do have a search field and kinetically scrolled contact list in my contacts screen :) Jan 17 03:49:55 oh gawd Jan 17 03:50:00 I'll never get used to it Jan 17 03:50:05 simple slider works for me :) Jan 17 03:50:25 plus kinetic never worked well on gta02 due to the glamo overhead / buffer problem Jan 17 03:52:27 well, my theme will be very simple Jan 17 03:52:47 seemed to work well enough in 2007.2 Jan 17 04:40:15 there, contact list ui cleaned up :) Jan 17 05:18:13 woot Jan 17 05:28:53 yep, now i'm going to use the contact list edc and c files to make functioning place holders for the rest of the ui :) Jan 17 05:29:29 like, touch Dialer, changes to the dialer screen, but it just says "Dialer UI here" Jan 17 05:29:43 then i can flesh it all out Jan 17 05:31:26 man, I wish I was familiar with edje and the ide and all so I could fuck around with it Jan 17 05:31:32 but I hear it's mindrape Jan 17 05:31:51 it's not bad at all once you get a little familiar with it Jan 17 05:34:44 Dave: i think the hardest part to get your head around is that your app is mostly just sending/receiving signals from edje/evas rather than controlling it directly Jan 17 05:35:01 the edje syntax is pretty simple Jan 17 05:35:26 yeah but that's not the problem as you so clearly exemplified :) Jan 17 05:35:40 true :) Jan 17 05:36:33 it really is simple, it can also get confusing a bit when you mix edje and elementary like i am now Jan 17 05:37:13 also the fact that it depends what you do with it Jan 17 05:37:22 you can do some pretty fucking complex stuff as far as I've seen Jan 17 05:37:31 though you can also do stupid simple stuff too :) Jan 17 05:54:59 Dave: cause it's no longer just edje, for example, when my contact list is displayed, there is an elementary window, containing an elementary layout, which contains the "Today" group in my edje, which is relatively simple, and contains a large swallow part, which contains another elementary layout that contains the "ContactsUI" group of my edje, which is composed of two swallow parts and a rect, an elmentary entry field, which the rect w Jan 17 05:54:59 ill clear, and the other contains a elementary list object :) Jan 17 05:56:15 made my head spin just a bit at first :) Jan 17 05:56:41 :P Jan 17 05:57:38 man I'm already insane enough as it is with the freerunner Jan 17 05:57:52 hehe Jan 17 05:59:15 luckily for me, any one part probably won't get any more complex than that, except maybe the calendar ;) Jan 17 06:04:51 :P Jan 17 09:01:51 Ainulindale: ping Jan 17 09:41:52 DocScrutinizer: Hi :) Can you tell me whether pcf50606 register description is available? In particular i'm interested in functionality to poll for the PWR button state (that is available as bit 0 in OOCSTAT in pcf50633). Not that i think many people will use Qi on GTA01 (i'm trying to improve its UI a bit) but nevertheless. Jan 17 10:04:28 PaulFertser_: did you try google? if you search for "pcf50606" then the first hit is the datasheet. Jan 17 10:05:11 it's also linked from the openmoko wiki, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Philips_PCF50606 Jan 17 10:06:30 pb__: And i was looking at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PCF50606 :) Jan 17 10:07:21 pb__: i assumed that there should be a link there and as with pcf50633 a special permission from NXP is needed and smth like that ;) Sorry for the confusion. Jan 17 10:08:34 Somehow these wiki pages should be merged, but i don't know exactly how to do it. Jan 17 10:17:40 bumbl: morning Jan 17 10:19:13 mrmoku: good morning Jan 17 10:20:05 after watching the build until at failed at 1:17... I went to bed Jan 17 10:20:12 s/at/it/ Jan 17 10:20:13 mrmoku meant: after witching the build until at failed at 1:17... I went to bed Jan 17 10:20:18 wow Jan 17 10:20:20 hehe Jan 17 10:20:22 shit happens Jan 17 10:20:24 stupid bot Jan 17 10:20:41 good news is I found out why this morning :-) Jan 17 10:22:50 haha Jan 17 10:47:02 Ok, the pcf50606 wiki pages consolidated. Jan 17 11:24:12 hi Jan 17 11:24:26 i get an segmentation fault while building glibc ( shr testing ) Jan 17 11:24:28 http://rafb.net/p/txdYUj63.html Jan 17 11:32:43 mrmoku: are you there? Jan 17 11:33:25 yep - have no idea though Jan 17 11:34:41 -_- i could try building unstable Jan 17 11:34:49 but don't think this will solve the problem Jan 17 11:37:30 tifereth: you could try to rebuild qemu... Jan 17 11:38:16 bitbake -c qemu? Jan 17 11:38:29 bitbake -c clean qemu; bitbake qemu Jan 17 11:38:43 okay will try when shr-unstable fails Jan 17 11:41:15 in which dir i have to execute this? Jan 17 11:41:23 i get nothing provides qemu Jan 17 11:41:55 okay i see had to execute setup-env Jan 17 11:42:40 tifereth: yep, if you call bitbake manually (not via make image) you have to do that Jan 17 11:48:54 mickey|bbl: ping Jan 17 11:48:56 could not import gpschannel.py: No module named serial Jan 17 11:49:03 any idea? Jan 17 11:53:00 mrmoku: seems like theres an problem when building qemu Jan 17 11:53:06 but the build system runs further so Jan 17 11:53:07 http://rafb.net/p/gBLJQ443.html Jan 17 12:01:39 mrmoku_ have you seen my last post( http://rafb.net/p/gBLJQ443.html ) Jan 17 12:02:17 tifereth: yep... but still have no idea :( Jan 17 12:04:08 i am stupid Jan 17 12:04:21 i backuped key3.db but not signons3.txt Jan 17 12:05:45 bumbl: hope you didn't flash the new unstable image ;) Jan 17 12:05:56 new unstable image? Jan 17 12:06:05 tordo: NOoooo don't do it :P Jan 17 12:06:19 becaaaue? Jan 17 12:06:20 won't work due to some python problems Jan 17 12:06:21 +s Jan 17 12:06:22 ah Jan 17 12:06:25 no not yet Jan 17 12:06:29 mrmoku_: hmm Jan 17 12:06:41 i am searching for a backup of my passwords Jan 17 12:06:45 even if i have two empty partitions on my sdcard? Jan 17 12:06:45 at the moment Jan 17 12:06:56 my last one is ~a month old Jan 17 12:08:52 tordo: enlightenment starts... it's just frameworkd having problems.... If you don't need that urgently... Jan 17 12:09:06 oh, ok Jan 17 12:09:07 bumbl: loosing passwords is ... bad :( Jan 17 12:09:55 i should be doing homework anyways Jan 17 12:10:18 tordo: yeah... do that then ;) Jan 17 12:10:36 * mrmoku_ thinks homework is not as much fun as hacking a neo... but important anyway Jan 17 12:10:38 mrmoku_: the only problematic password is the shr one Jan 17 12:11:03 tordo: today is saturday Jan 17 12:11:09 mrmoku_: new semester, i'm starting a new and better life Jan 17 12:11:17 maybe i'll manage to do it for a whole week Jan 17 12:11:30 hehe Jan 17 12:11:57 homework done before sunday evening is bad homework :p Jan 17 12:12:06 :P Jan 17 12:12:21 by the way Jan 17 12:12:32 is anyone here familiar with iwlib & friends? Jan 17 12:13:25 bumbl: don't tell my son ;) Jan 17 12:13:37 hehe Jan 17 12:13:52 just my personal experience Jan 17 12:13:59 weekend = relaxing Jan 17 12:14:29 bumbl: have to eat now... if mickey|bbl passes... site-packages/serial is missing Jan 17 12:15:08 ok Jan 17 12:33:58 hello all Jan 17 12:42:58 hello a21 Jan 17 12:51:19 lindi-: Hi there :) do you want to take a look at my patches to Qi that allows to append debug parameter to the kernel command line if POWER is pressed? Jan 17 12:51:29 lindi-: https://paulfertser.is-a-geek.org/files/qi-improve-ui/ Jan 17 12:52:38 Any comments from other Qi users? Jan 17 13:15:09 hi Jan 17 13:33:07 when I try using current git version of framework, I've got this error message during startup http://pastebin.com/m13276a0d. If I disable GPS, framework starts ok, but zhone is constantly waiting for gps replys from framework (it starts ok only when I comment out gps sections). Anyone seen this error message before? Jan 17 13:58:42 hey mickeyl :-) Jan 17 14:00:20 morsche Jan 17 14:00:39 dagger: i broke gps Jan 17 14:01:00 i thought alphaone|gone would fix it yesterday, but he was busy Jan 17 14:01:06 let me take a quick look into it now Jan 17 14:01:25 mickeyl: python-pyserial needs a look too :-) Jan 17 14:02:08 wha that? Jan 17 14:02:11 s/wha/why/ Jan 17 14:02:12 mickeyl meant: why that? Jan 17 14:02:49 it is missing the serial subdir Jan 17 14:03:01 not getting packaged correctly Jan 17 14:03:41 ui Jan 17 14:12:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r2bec920ce0d2 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ (gpschannel.py om.py): Jan 17 14:12:52 freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: fix disabling the device when it was never enabled before. Jan 17 14:12:52 freesmartphone.org: Daniel, please review this! Jan 17 14:13:10 dagger: this should fix your problem. Please try whether gps still works now Jan 17 14:21:04 mrmoku: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer org.openembedded.dev * raaf9a780d5 openembedded.git/packages/python/python-pyserial_2.4.bb: python-pyserial: build system is now setuptools Jan 17 14:21:24 mickeyl: ok, thanks. will try :-) Jan 17 14:22:59 some packages move to setuptools Jan 17 14:23:13 if you build a setuptools package with distutils you get an 'egg' instead of a directory Jan 17 14:23:23 which is kinda cool on the desktop Jan 17 14:23:28 but needs more processing power to unpack Jan 17 14:23:36 therefore we don't want that on embedded Jan 17 14:24:13 * mrmoku should have figured that out himself :( Jan 17 14:38:23 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * ra8d89b8ff3e6 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/om.py: ogspd: according to Werner Almesberger, you need to turn on gpsd in order to turn it off *sigh* Jan 17 14:40:50 PaulFertser_: i haven't used Qi yet Jan 17 14:54:55 ainulindale? Jan 17 15:03:19 hehehe Jan 17 15:05:18 hey folks, Jan 17 15:05:19 i'm using shr (best image avaiable ;)), sended a test sms to the neo, works quite good (sentry:location works also :)), but the receive-date is 1.1.1970 =-O Jan 17 15:05:19 is this a bug or config failure? Jan 17 15:05:53 sounds like a bug, can you upload the corresponding fso logs? Jan 17 15:06:21 i can open a bug-report with debug logs Jan 17 15:06:34 sounds good Jan 17 15:29:10 * tordo goes for a hard testing case: bringing the moko going out drinking Jan 17 15:29:23 another thing: is it possible to add libnotify and notification-daemon to the repository (needed from accelges), plz Jan 17 15:29:24 the old(2007.2) games would also be nice Jan 17 15:35:38 tordo: don't let it drink too much though... it could puke :P Jan 17 15:36:54 :D Jan 17 15:37:09 core dump? Jan 17 15:41:14 someone have log from tangogps ? Jan 17 15:45:36 yoyo: how's your u-boot... fixed? Jan 17 15:46:04 mrmoku: looks wird :/ but (bat) working :P Jan 17 15:46:23 yoyo: as long as its booting :-)( Jan 17 15:46:53 mrmoku: do you have some log's from tangogps ? Jan 17 15:47:26 yoyo: reflashing right now... what would you need? Jan 17 15:47:43 mrmoku: logs :) Jan 17 15:48:04 yoyo: output from tangogps or trace logs? Jan 17 15:48:05 I'm wroting small script. result is http://d3p.pl/stangegps/20000202_165825.html :) Jan 17 15:48:12 trace Jan 17 15:50:10 yoyo: nice... http://zamora.homelinux.org/20081004_082505.log Jan 17 15:52:34 mrmoku: http://d3p.pl/stangegps/20081004_082505.html Jan 17 15:54:13 yoyo: hehe, cool :-) Jan 17 15:54:53 need to make some script to recognize non mouving point to reduce points and will work cool :) Jan 17 15:55:42 mryoyo Jan 17 16:00:14 Dave: how many neos went out of the window? Jan 17 16:00:27 hi, hi, is it possible changing a variable throught the uboot shell to change the showing on the screen of the uboot splash image? Jan 17 16:01:29 :) mrmoku: posible view change :) http://d3p.pl/stangegps/20081004_082505.html Jan 17 16:02:03 as many as I could take Jan 17 16:08:02 so maybe ten ors o Jan 17 16:22:11 mickey|sports: sorry for the late reply. You commit fixed GPS :)) The only problem left with framework is http://pastebin.com/m61cd9fbc Jan 17 16:28:52 jonkristian :) Jan 17 17:10:19 MROPHIS Jan 17 17:10:27 DAVE Jan 17 17:14:36 What's new? Jan 17 17:14:41 Your code, I would hope :p Jan 17 17:15:15 at the moment, nothing Jan 17 17:16:11 I am currently fully stressed at university writing some exams Jan 17 17:21:28 :( Jan 17 17:21:36 Hallo Mortak Jan 17 17:21:46 Okay, no pressure morphis :P Jan 17 17:24:31 PaulFertser_: ping Jan 17 17:24:42 could need some muxer expert for http://pastebin.com/d748039c9 Jan 17 17:27:55 hello does anybody knows how to see which Om Release is installed on my GTA02? Jan 17 17:29:20 hi Dave Jan 17 17:29:39 "hallo"? :) Jan 17 17:30:17 Ventolinmono: Flash a new one, and you will know for sure :) Jan 17 17:30:52 ja Jan 17 17:31:24 BluesLee! Jan 17 17:31:26 :D Jan 17 17:31:46 hi dave Jan 17 17:31:48 who compiled the latest unstable images? Jan 17 17:32:02 was thinking about doing that, i just dont want to realize it has the latest and i flashed it for nothing Jan 17 17:32:32 * mrmoku hides Jan 17 17:32:43 its extremly slow, ts doesnt seem to work, cant choose a language Jan 17 17:32:52 hi mrmoku:-) Jan 17 17:33:03 ^^ Jan 17 17:33:04 BluesLee: further more gsm does not come up :-) Jan 17 17:33:07 hi BluesLee Jan 17 17:33:12 hope you didn't flash it ;) Jan 17 17:33:23 i thought i should try it as the new kernel went from ultraunstable to unstable Jan 17 17:33:54 but i am lost, cant ssh to the neo no route ... Jan 17 17:34:00 there were voices unstable is just that unstable - no need for ultraunstable ;) Jan 17 17:34:09 power+aux doesnt reboot Jan 17 17:34:10 BluesLee: reboot... usb does not work on first boot Jan 17 17:35:28 BluesLee: I also had a hang in illume config on first boot... second boot worked though Jan 17 17:43:56 hmm... devices were missing... killing and restarting udev fixed that Jan 17 17:54:09 mrmoku: hyhyhy I'w add reduction of nomouvment points and some points command :) http://d3p.pl/stangegps/20081225_165155.html it is iwen visible where you stay on red stop lights :) Jan 17 18:23:17 mrmoku: interesting :) I think it shouldn't have tried using non-existant device anyway. Steps to reproduce? ;) Jan 17 18:29:27 hi alphaone Jan 17 18:29:55 hi mirko Jan 17 18:30:14 which image sould I flash for the message stuff etc Jan 17 18:30:15 hi Jan 17 18:30:21 or to be a bit more up to date Jan 17 18:30:27 hi DocScruntinizer2 Jan 17 18:34:28 PaulFertser_: borken udev :P ... so just remove the devices :-) Jan 17 18:35:41 mrmoku: I understand how to reproduce "bad file descriptor problem". :) I was asking about "broken udev" problem ;) Jan 17 18:36:01 yy how tu replay to lists.openmoko.org ? Jan 17 18:36:08 dagger: that's ok, it just tells you that it can't find certain decoders, such as mod, sid, and floating point ogg Jan 17 18:36:22 one man asking about deleting contacts from sim I have the soft http://d3p.pl/fb/?&tag=shr&id=336&subPage=detale Jan 17 18:36:32 mickeyl: but I DO have them installed Jan 17 18:36:53 what does opkg list|grep gst-plugin say? Jan 17 18:39:06 mickeyl: well I'm not using opkg. I'm porting it for gentoo. http://pastebin.com/m7259461e Jan 17 18:39:43 looks good, but Jan 17 18:39:44 still no .mod Jan 17 18:39:45 .sid Jan 17 18:39:48 and fp-ogg Jan 17 18:40:02 moin Jan 17 18:40:06 moin stefan_schmidt Jan 17 18:40:13 servus mickeyl Jan 17 18:40:30 if gst-parse can't parse it, it's not there Jan 17 18:40:32 simple as that :) Jan 17 18:40:35 mickeyl: but framework doesn't recognise any of them. How can I verify it? Jan 17 18:40:46 post the output of gst-inspect Jan 17 18:41:23 PaulFertser_: still have to examine it... If you want to reproduce it yourself just flash latest SHR unstable Jan 17 18:42:05 mrmoku: i'll probably wait for it to adopt the latest framework :p Jan 17 18:42:17 PaulFertser_: it hast super-latest framework :P Jan 17 18:42:19 mickeyl: gst-inspect says http://pastebin.com/m126e8b31 Jan 17 18:42:49 ssh shr Jan 17 18:42:53 oops Jan 17 18:43:20 * mrmoku ment his phone not this channel :-) Jan 17 18:43:24 dagger: yo Jan 17 18:43:28 no sid decoder Jan 17 18:43:30 no mod decoder Jan 17 18:43:34 framework is right :) Jan 17 18:43:41 you got typefinder installed, these are irrelevant Jan 17 18:43:41 mickeyl: what about ogg ?:) Jan 17 18:43:45 you need the decoders Jan 17 18:43:47 PaulFertser_: a8d89b8ff3e6a681b3df9dae978662bbc4d3da98 is included... new enough? Jan 17 18:44:02 yes, you got one of the oggs Jan 17 18:44:11 fraamework searches for two different ogg decoders Jan 17 18:44:13 you got one of them Jan 17 18:44:16 still you don't got the other one Jan 17 18:44:38 mickeyl: so if it wont find both - it reports missing ogg right? Jan 17 18:44:51 correct Jan 17 18:45:19 also line 86 mad: mad: mad mp3 decoder - framework report missing mad Jan 17 18:45:39 where? Jan 17 18:45:44 it doesn't report missing mad in your pastebin Jan 17 18:46:01 at least not in http://pastebin.com/m61cd9fbc Jan 17 18:47:21 mickeyl: damn, you're right Jan 17 18:47:28 hehe Jan 17 18:47:31 of course ;) Jan 17 18:47:34 just kidding Jan 17 18:47:41 anyways, need to run now Jan 17 18:47:46 dinner invitation Jan 17 18:47:47 bbl Jan 17 18:47:59 dagger: Don't you hate it when that happens? :-) Jan 17 18:48:07 hi alphaone Jan 17 18:48:13 hey stefan_schmidt Jan 17 18:48:19 alphaone: sure I do Jan 17 18:48:54 mirko-paroli: Not sure about the image, a recent one would be good Jan 17 18:49:06 I haven't managed to build for a while :-( Jan 17 18:49:08 I heard earlier the latest one is broken Jan 17 18:49:13 hmm, gentoo on the GTA02? I hope you don't compile it all on the device. :) Jan 17 18:49:15 or read it on a ML or sth Jan 17 18:49:20 * stefan_schmidt hides from dagger and alphaone Jan 17 18:49:20 so an unstable onne Jan 17 18:49:21 one Jan 17 18:49:51 FSO unstable buids are a bit broken atm Jan 17 18:50:00 I just started a new one Jan 17 18:50:00 mirko-paroli: Need to consult stefan_schmidt for builds :-) Jan 17 18:50:07 He's the one to blame atm Jan 17 18:50:13 heh Jan 17 18:50:19 * stefan_schmidt takes all the blam,e Jan 17 18:50:21 blame Jan 17 18:50:36 i wanted to meet the rest of the family anyhow, Hi stefan_schmidt Jan 17 18:50:39 :) :) :) Jan 17 18:50:51 If it does not get better until monday I branch of in OE and revert and fixup for the release Jan 17 18:50:57 hi mirko-paroli Jan 17 18:51:12 mirko-paroli: Meet? Means you have to come over from sweden Jan 17 18:51:17 Hello there! I'm back! ;] Jan 17 18:51:18 brb Jan 17 18:51:19 hehe, not yet Jan 17 18:51:27 but I would like to do that some time soon Jan 17 18:51:37 when you guys aren't too stressed etc Jan 17 18:51:42 mirko-paroli: when om does a om2009 testing image with frameworkd + paroli? i am curious to test it ... Jan 17 18:52:01 mirko-paroli: well, we just try to look stressed if mickey|dinner is around. ;)) Jan 17 18:52:21 Hire, I would love to give you an answer, but I honestly don't know yet Jan 17 18:52:24 too many unknowns Jan 17 18:52:32 ah :D Jan 17 18:52:44 so no news about that ... i get it Jan 17 18:52:47 let's put it this way, my goal is ASAP Jan 17 18:53:01 however, are you working on a home applet for tichy? Jan 17 18:53:06 well you can install paroli as a package... Jan 17 18:53:43 yapp we'll have a "own" home screen version but also work on a version that sits in illume Jan 17 18:54:04 a home with notification and other things? nice :D Jan 17 18:54:21 but before there can be any testing I need to adapt paroli to the current framework, which kinda slipped until now ;) Jan 17 18:54:52 stefan_schmidt: a belated LOL Jan 17 18:55:35 hmm, that's another rev foe EFL then I expected... Jan 17 18:55:35 stefan_schmidt: so how about the fso image from jan 5th, would that be working? Jan 17 18:55:43 arrhhh Jan 17 18:55:47 work on it ! Jan 17 18:55:51 lazy man :D Jan 17 18:55:55 hehe Jan 17 18:56:16 mirko-paroli: I have no real date. Can upload one that I use on my phone for daily usage Jan 17 18:56:25 hi Jan 17 18:56:30 if that contains the "new" API Jan 17 18:56:34 for msgs Jan 17 18:56:45 hmm, not the latest changes from alphaone Jan 17 18:56:56 It's at least a week old Jan 17 18:57:01 ehm Jan 17 18:57:07 that is 3 month younger than mine ;) Jan 17 18:57:12 so: bought ! Jan 17 18:58:06 no, seriously, would be great if I could get that one, I need to update a lot of things Jan 17 18:58:11 mirko-paroli: alphaone did some small changes on the SMS API the last days. That's not in there. If it's fine for you I can still upload it Jan 17 18:58:16 ok Jan 17 18:58:20 give me a mom Jan 17 18:58:27 superb, thx Jan 17 18:59:19 upload in progress Jan 17 18:59:28 stefan_schmidt: why do you want a mom? O_o Jan 17 18:59:58 Hire: Because yours left me? :D Jan 17 19:00:01 Hire, 2 is always better than one ;) Jan 17 19:00:13 :/ Jan 17 19:00:18 We should not start mom jokes here Jan 17 19:01:02 :\ Jan 17 19:01:10 TAsn: hey, welcome back... how many broken legs do you have? ;) Jan 17 19:01:32 my jokes getting always worse ... Jan 17 19:01:43 someone wants to see my scarred butt? Jan 17 19:01:43 mrmoku, none.! Jan 17 19:01:49 fine :-) Jan 17 19:01:51 though my knee hurts like a bitch. Jan 17 19:02:00 ok, mickey|dinner bumped EFL_SRCREV, let's hope Jan 17 19:02:12 stefan_schmidt: to which one? Jan 17 19:02:40 mrmoku: 38544 Jan 17 19:02:51 stefan_schmidt: ok, thanks Jan 17 19:04:36 PaulFertser_: do you know what /dev/s3c2410_serial[012] are? Jan 17 19:04:49 might be the missing /dev/ttyS ones? Jan 17 19:11:03 mrmoku: i don't have /dev/s3c2410* here. I've /dev/ttySAC? . Jan 17 19:11:17 ainulindale: ? Jan 17 19:12:09 PaulFertser_: after boot I have those s3c2410 thingies... if I kill and restart udev the ttySAC? appear Jan 17 19:12:35 I have KERNEL=="s3c2410_serial[0-9]", NAME="ttySAC%n" in my udev configuration Jan 17 19:16:07 mrmoku: i'm afraid i don't exactly know how to debug udev configuration. Are you sure it starts on boot at all? I'm confused... Jan 17 19:16:10 PaulFertser_: yep, me too Jan 17 19:16:15 (the config) Jan 17 19:16:45 the most confusing thing is that the dev.tar that udev creates on first boot contains the correct ttySAC nodes Jan 17 19:17:30 is there some shr devel here? some packages don't seem to be well packaged, I get erros on opkg update & upgrade on shr-unstable with today's updates Jan 17 19:18:05 PaulFertser_: ok... somehow the beast stuffed initscripts-openmoko into the image Jan 17 19:18:14 and not initscripts-shr as it is supposed to be :( Jan 17 19:20:00 Oh, and initscripts-openmoko messed the /dev directory, yes? Jan 17 19:20:23 Sharwin_F: uuhh, yeah. unstable is not only unstable but also incompatible right now :( Jan 17 19:20:53 PaulFertser_: IIRC the have their own static device tarball Jan 17 19:20:55 mrmoku, what dou mean by incopatible? Jan 17 19:20:59 *incompatible Jan 17 19:21:29 Sharwin_F: LOTS of stuff changed since last unstable... I don't think you will come by with an upgrade Jan 17 19:21:42 and it does not work yet... so you don't even want to upgrade :-) Jan 17 19:21:50 mrmoku, so I should to reflash with new image? Jan 17 19:22:24 Sharwin_F: yeah, but not yet. We're still sorting out some issues and right now nothing works :( Jan 17 19:22:30 It would have been great to know that before upgrading xD Jan 17 19:22:39 how long 'till the next testing images? ;) Jan 17 19:22:56 neobaka: good question.... next question ;) Jan 17 19:23:17 is there any place where do you write down if it's a good moment to update? Jan 17 19:23:19 ...first release? Jan 17 19:23:21 hehe Jan 17 19:23:47 Sharwin_F: I don't think so yet... what would be a good place? the wiki? the ML? Jan 17 19:24:06 mrmoku, hmm main page of website? xD Jan 17 19:24:12 neobaka: well... first release is easy to answer ;) Jan 17 19:24:17 when its ready :P Jan 17 19:24:36 hah lol ^^ Jan 17 19:24:37 Sharwin_F: maybe a README on the download site? Jan 17 19:24:55 mrmoku, yes, or a file called STATUS Jan 17 19:24:59 i think that will be build with a hurd-kernel ;)) Jan 17 19:25:05 I'm quite sure most people just download and flash... without looking at the webpage Jan 17 19:25:39 neobaka: psst... Windows 12... but don't tell anybody :P Jan 17 19:25:39 rss feeds help, people should subscribe Jan 17 19:26:07 well, I'd look, I don't like not being able to launch apps nor GSM... :P Jan 17 19:26:29 which rss feed? Jan 17 19:26:41 Hire, u r part of the SHR team, right=? Jan 17 19:26:42 Sharwin_F: hehe, can understand that... normally I would tell you: so don't use unstable Jan 17 19:26:52 but I know that testing is dead for some time now Jan 17 19:27:02 so I can understand everyboday is using it :-) Jan 17 19:27:20 mirko-paroli: Hire is our graphics rambo ;) Jan 17 19:27:34 the rss-feed from planet.openmoko.org Jan 17 19:27:41