**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 22 02:59:57 2009 Jan 22 05:26:39 raster :) moinmoin! Jan 22 06:23:02 Ainulindale: did you find xmlto? Jan 22 09:27:55 heyho Jan 22 09:31:59 morning Jan 22 09:34:30 everybody knows why no busybox symlinks are created when building shr-lite-image? Jan 22 09:37:41 Ainulindale: is there someone actually looking at the bugs in trac or is this something that needs to be done. Jan 22 09:44:34 hey Jan 22 09:44:45 Ainulindale: have you seen my "patch"? Jan 22 09:47:00 Anyone knows how I get python setup.py to re-install every file if I do a change? python setup.py seems to not overwrite existing files... Jan 22 09:48:20 hey dos1 Jan 22 09:51:21 beniwtv: increase the version number Jan 22 09:52:24 Defiant-: I always use FSO head, do a git pull, then I install it with setup.py. Sometimes the version does not change there Jan 22 09:56:34 Defiant-: Found it... it's --force. heh I should have thought of that :P Jan 22 10:15:11 dos1: yes, told you it wasn't that hard Jan 22 10:15:24 spaetz: we look sporadically but we'd really need someone to do that Jan 22 10:16:30 mrmoku_: I think we should switch current unstable into testing as a whole Jan 22 10:16:39 Although right now we can't compile bluez Jan 22 10:20:35 Ainulindale: and alsa-utils (because of xmlto) Jan 22 10:21:27 though, yeah we should do it anyway Jan 22 10:27:59 mrmoku_: alsa utils, fixed Jan 22 10:28:07 (yesterday) Jan 22 10:28:15 mickeyl: plonk Jan 22 10:28:25 mrmoku_: currently doing a make update Jan 22 10:29:46 Can anyone confirm that glibc builds for shr-unstable? - otherwise its rm -rf and start again :( Jan 22 10:30:02 COnfirmed Jan 22 10:30:11 tks :( Jan 22 10:30:14 morning Jan 22 10:30:37 mickeyl: if you have some time to waste, bluez4 won't compile. Complaining about libusb_init Jan 22 10:31:56 d'oh Jan 22 10:32:00 ok, will look into it Jan 22 10:32:26 Unfortunately I can't commit packages in OE if I can't test them so... :-) Jan 22 10:32:35 There's apparently a problem with frozen-bubble and libSDL too Jan 22 10:33:51 ya, it sucks when it doesn't bail out everywhere Jan 22 10:34:00 Ainulindale: Then we wasted the time to give you and quickdev access to OE? Jan 22 10:34:04 makes it hard to fix for me though Jan 22 10:34:26 stefan_schmidt: errr you didn't understand my thoughts I think :-) Jan 22 10:34:44 stefan_schmidt: I want to commit this week, but if I can't reproduce a build, well, I might as well do naught Jan 22 10:34:59 Ainulindale: Ah, that sounds better. :) Jan 22 10:35:19 we have problems remaining with some packages, such as bluez4, and frozen-bubble Jan 22 10:35:28 We should also update dillo once and for all Jan 22 10:35:34 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/3152770.txt Jan 22 10:35:38 (FYI, bluez4) Jan 22 10:35:49 hid2hci.c:(.text+0xc8): undefined reference to `libusb_init' Jan 22 10:36:36 yup, have the same problem here with bluez. mickeyl and shoragan does not have it tho Jan 22 10:37:06 * mickeyl hugs tinderbox Jan 22 10:37:11 lets see the linker line Jan 22 10:37:24 I rebuilded libusb and libusb1 Jan 22 10:37:26 without success Jan 22 10:37:30 s/rebuilded/rebuilt/ Jan 22 10:37:33 Man, I'm tired today Jan 22 10:38:12 ok, I'm afraid we need to update libtool and automake Jan 22 10:39:38 sigh, this parsing takes ages Jan 22 10:40:05 mickeyl: Why is that? Jan 22 10:40:36 mickeyl: So it works with your new 2009 preferred versions? Jan 22 10:40:48 yes Jan 22 10:40:49 That would explain my breakage as I built in between Jan 22 10:41:09 mickeyl: With your new I got other problems tho Jan 22 10:41:24 when i worked on python 2.6, i found some packages requiring libtool2 Jan 22 10:41:40 i added pref-2009 to get them built Jan 22 10:41:40 libc 2.5 while it expected > 2.6.1 while putting the rootfs together Jan 22 10:41:45 Ainulindale: i don't get the point with "it wasn't that hard" :x Jan 22 10:41:50 so what does this imply mickeyl ? Jan 22 10:41:59 mickeyl: But you replaced 2008 with 2009 Jan 22 10:41:59 dos1: that C isn't necessarily harder than python :-) Jan 22 10:42:13 dos1: do you want access to the shr repo to commit your patch? Jan 22 10:42:15 stefan_schmidt: ya, my wordir is dirty Jan 22 10:42:19 Ainulindale: yes, i know ;) Jan 22 10:42:37 stefan_schmidt: i'll retry with the old one now. i don't feel good building with 2009 for ms5, it has quite a lot of other problems like you say Jan 22 10:42:51 mickeyl: and I build from scratch. Smells like problems :) Jan 22 10:43:00 mickeyl: ack Jan 22 10:43:19 mickeyl: but with 2008 and the bluez patch enabled it breaks Jan 22 10:43:27 Ainulindale: hmm, you can give me access, but i will commit in the evening, when i go to home Jan 22 10:43:36 shoragan: you have been building on buildhost? Jan 22 10:43:44 mickeyl, yes Jan 22 10:43:57 and with 2008, right? Jan 22 10:43:59 mickeyl: Ping when you have some minutes? :P I found two other small bugs :) Jan 22 10:44:02 dos1: no problem Jan 22 10:44:02 2008? Jan 22 10:44:13 no changes to openmoko.conf Jan 22 10:44:19 no changes Jan 22 10:44:21 righto Jan 22 10:44:28 that gets us three different scenarios Jan 22 10:44:33 and it doesn't work in one out of three Jan 22 10:44:37 dos1: done Jan 22 10:44:38 mucho strange Jan 22 10:45:06 Did you fix your initscript problem guys? Jan 22 10:45:19 btw, i still get "No Python in STAGING_INCDIR." it seems to work though Jan 22 10:45:41 shoragan: sounds like a missing build dependency. for what package? Jan 22 10:45:53 Ainulindale: which one? Jan 22 10:46:00 mickeyl: You changed openmoko.conf from 2008 to 2009 and if shoragan pulled after this we have only two scenarios Jan 22 10:46:14 stefan_schmidt: wait!? Jan 22 10:46:19 i commited that change??? Jan 22 10:46:24 mickeyl: yes Jan 22 10:46:27 argh that was not intended! Jan 22 10:46:28 frameworkd Jan 22 10:46:33 mickeyl: well after the fastboot patches, there was a initscript change Jan 22 10:46:43 mickeyl: I was about to ask you later today :) Jan 22 10:46:46 stefan_schmidt: please revert that Jan 22 10:46:58 i will try to get more sleep Jan 22 10:46:59 on my way Jan 22 10:47:00 Which was causing problems as the DISTRO_INITSCRIPTS of openmoko.conf was a = and not a ?= Jan 22 10:47:06 mickeyl, won't that break autobuilder/feeds Jan 22 10:47:31 shoragan: well it only gets less broken then now Jan 22 10:48:25 Ainulindale: i guess this was probably intended from the side of those who committed that, but i have no problems changing that back Jan 22 10:48:34 then lets do it fast Jan 22 10:48:49 and hope not too many autobuilders have built Jan 22 10:49:16 mickeyl: well, can't wait to build my distro conf then Jan 22 10:49:22 pushed Jan 22 10:49:50 Ainulindale: same here Jan 22 10:49:56 Well, ok, then, I have to rebuild after your push Jan 22 10:49:57 Ainulindale: i will do some more work on the 'minimal' distro Jan 22 10:50:16 mickeyl: well I think we should share this .conf anyway Jan 22 10:50:17 angstrom scares me Jan 22 10:50:24 and openmoko includes it Jan 22 10:50:27 And we have a regession that gta01 builds produce no /sbin/init Jan 22 10:50:39 haha Jan 22 10:50:44 mickeyl, do i need to rm -rf tmp after switching back to 2008? Jan 22 10:51:12 shoragan: be guinea pig and lets see what happens if you don't Jan 22 10:51:18 mka Jan 22 10:51:34 well well well Jan 22 10:51:43 You're telling me I have to rebuild my thing yet again? :-) Jan 22 10:51:56 Must... kill... all... humans... Jan 22 10:52:01 s/humans/germans/ Jan 22 10:52:01 Ainulindale meant: Must... kill... all... germans... Jan 22 10:52:34 well, we still hope that after getting the OE e.v. thing we receive some donations we can use for public buildhosts Jan 22 10:52:49 mickeyl: public buildhosts such as what? Jan 22 10:53:01 The SHR buildhost is somewhat public Jan 22 10:53:02 and free Jan 22 10:53:40 mickeyl: hmm, I feel this is more about testing changes before commiting and review. QA comes to late if a buildhost catches it. :) Jan 22 10:54:18 i see it from this side: a fast buildhost reduces the pain and encourages more testing Jan 22 10:54:30 since you can do one change and don't have to be afraid waiting for ages again Jan 22 10:54:40 The problem is Jan 22 10:54:45 Current way to handle changes is bad Jan 22 10:54:53 Compared to things like portage for example Jan 22 10:55:17 mickeyl: Well, we have fast machines, no? 8 core with 10G ram, at least dual core in every desktop/laptop Jan 22 10:55:43 Anyway, that's nothing for now. I like to get a stable build again for MS5. That's all. :) Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * r142bb4fbc524 10/src/ (logger.vala main.vala monitor.vala obj.vala): Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: Logger uses Glib log functions Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: moved logger and monitor to seperate files. Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: added signal handler for usage, GSM, PDP, network Jan 22 10:59:34 mickeyl: The connman problem could also come from the new autotools stuff. Jan 22 11:00:10 well, it builds here Jan 22 11:00:22 even without the PARALLEL_MAKE Jan 22 11:00:36 mickeyl: but with a dirty tmp with newer autotools Jan 22 11:00:56 mickeyl: I start a new build with my last change from scratch and we will see in some hours Jan 22 11:01:07 right Jan 22 11:02:23 mickeyl: I tried the new zhone GSM display today (got around fixing python-evas yesterday) Jan 22 11:02:51 And I already found a bug... :P Jan 22 11:06:27 WTF? [2009-01-22 10:41:29] *** Das Kanal-Topic lautet: "Openmoko C ||||| [2009-01-22 11:16:00] *** Das Kanal-Topic lautet: "Openmoko Community ---- ##no login though Jan 22 11:24:34 rwhitby? Jan 22 11:54:54 ok, new build launched Jan 22 12:12:50 a new build? why? Jan 22 12:17:31 Because mickeyl borked OE :-) Jan 22 12:18:12 interesting Jan 22 12:32:10 mickeyl: ping? Jan 22 13:03:25 beniwtv: here we are Jan 22 13:06:15 goedmorgen Jan 22 13:10:08 mickeyl: I found an error in your new GSM display, but the error is in frameworkd it seems: trace: http://pastebin.com/m24177159 Jan 22 13:10:22 Dave: Guten morgen :P Jan 22 13:11:17 ooh, math domain error!? Jan 22 13:12:07 beniwtv: can you add a 'print repr(value)' before that so we know which value it's trying to operate on? Jan 22 13:12:42 mickeyl: yes, hold on, going for my FR :) Jan 22 13:16:08 :] Jan 22 13:23:50 mickeyl: repr(signal) seems to print numbers... hm... that being said, after I restarted my FR this doesn't seem to happen again Jan 22 13:23:59 :) Jan 22 13:24:03 hehe Jan 22 13:24:11 *knock on wood* Jan 22 13:25:48 wouldn't it make sense to always log all inputs to a ringbuffer so that you can see what the program was operating on later? Jan 22 13:26:22 How are things with SHR this morning? Jan 22 13:37:10 Rebuilding from scratch Dave Jan 22 13:37:21 Because mickeyl was overmotivated :-p Jan 22 13:38:30 sorry, i promise not to redo 13h shifts again Jan 22 13:39:34 hehe :-) Jan 22 13:39:41 Don't worry, I'm just joking :-) Jan 22 13:40:04 mickeyl: Although it's a real pain the way bitbake handles these cases Jan 22 13:40:06 sure, but there's some truth in it. I find myself hammered with too many concurrent issues Jan 22 13:40:21 sometimes i lose context while context switching ;) Jan 22 13:40:26 Heh Jan 22 13:40:33 clearing instruction cache...you know ;) Jan 22 13:41:07 Yep, I unfortunately know about that Jan 22 13:43:21 hello, are there any hardware guy that can do soldering that go to the fosdem? Jan 22 13:43:48 haha Jan 22 13:43:57 you're hopeful Gnutoo :-) Jan 22 13:44:08 mickeyl: NOTE: Running task 1722 of 6801 Jan 22 13:44:10 Sheesh Jan 22 13:44:11 =) Jan 22 13:44:33 *cough* Jan 22 13:45:00 Ainulindale, there will be an openmoko stand...so mabe some hardware people would come...I've the audio-out problem Jan 22 13:45:55 (capacitor too low between sound card and audio-out...so it acts like a high-pass filter) Jan 22 13:46:33 I'd like to go there but I crashed my car so it'll be hard to make it Jan 22 13:46:48 Although ptitjes might want to go there Jan 22 13:46:52 I'll ask him Jan 22 13:50:11 hm fso-console-image won't let me login with the blank bassword Jan 22 13:51:31 did something change about that? Jan 22 13:52:40 Ainu, how long does that take to finish? :) Jan 22 13:53:05 too long. Jan 22 13:53:35 dropbear rejects blank pass by default? Jan 22 13:54:30 I doubt that Jan 22 13:57:14 however Jan 22 13:57:20 E is too much heavy Jan 22 13:57:31 it sucks 10% of the CPU Jan 22 13:57:59 Hire: tell us some NEWS... not OLDIES :P Jan 22 13:58:13 and with 10% you're still well off :-) Jan 22 13:58:20 (sucks 20% for me) Jan 22 13:59:21 mickeyl: Is org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply -> PowerStatus still supposed to fire if I insert / remove the charger in HEAD? Jan 22 13:59:40 now 30% Jan 22 13:59:48 why?? Jan 22 13:59:53 it is too much Jan 22 14:00:43 beniwtv: yes Jan 22 14:01:09 is it not? Jan 22 14:02:31 wow Jan 22 14:02:38 now navit is too much slow :| Jan 22 14:03:27 mickeyl: not for me... maybe it's related to the error I get: Error performing ioctl: Input/output error? Jan 22 14:03:27 Jan 22 14:03:40 no, that's probably wlan Jan 22 14:03:55 hmm i need to drain my battery to test something Jan 22 14:03:58 so i can't test that now Jan 22 14:04:04 will do tomorrow Jan 22 14:04:40 mickeyl: I can test it maybe... how does frameworkd detect the charger? Maybe I'm missing a node in /dev or /sys? Jan 22 14:04:56 the way this happens is through kobject Jan 22 14:05:02 you insert the charger Jan 22 14:05:12 then kernel sends a notification through kobject Jan 22 14:05:25 battery object is getting that Jan 22 14:05:28 querying the status Jan 22 14:05:30 and sends it forward Jan 22 14:05:44 you can check whether you get kobject notifications Jan 22 14:05:51 iirc they're dumped if you have log_level=DEBUG Jan 22 14:06:55 k. will increase the log level. bat.GetPowerStatus() works, so at least it's aware of the battery Jan 22 14:07:16 mrmoku: I used software_16 and now it is a bit better Jan 22 14:07:47 1404 root 10 -10 23756 13m 7420 S 30.0 11.1 11:59.77 enlightenment <--- 30% is too much damn Jan 22 14:07:56 we have some problem with E Jan 22 14:10:44 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r2f497ca84417 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): rename error page to alert Jan 22 14:10:44 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r15a1c106b95e 10/src/zhone: show error/warning when SIM is full Jan 22 14:10:45 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r80d85c2faff7 10/src/zhone: send and receive USSD messages Jan 22 14:10:46 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r6afaf3c15aa0 10/src/zhone: send DTMF tones immediately Jan 22 14:13:41 mickey|lunch: Tried debug, and it is getting kobject notifications. Dunno why frameworkd doesn't do anything with them, though Jan 22 14:17:11 TAGE_ALL_ARGS} || \ oefatal "python setup.py install (stage) execution failed." Jan 22 14:17:16 not good Jan 22 14:17:37 mrmoku_: software 16 is ugly Jan 22 14:17:42 err Jan 22 14:17:43 Hire Jan 22 14:17:56 Hire: if you want to work around the cpu usage problem, change the theme back and forth Jan 22 14:18:20 * mrmoku_ knows that :D Jan 22 14:19:30 mrmoku: by the way Jan 22 14:20:01 I did the tmp/tmp.old thing and it's currently rebuilding Jan 22 14:20:22 yeah, read that.... and I'm booting a *real* SHR :-) Jan 22 14:20:36 lets see what happens Jan 22 14:23:10 hehe, having a cursor... haven't seen that for a while :-) Jan 22 14:23:14 (since last I tried debian) Jan 22 14:23:23 hey! USSD support? Nice! Jan 22 14:23:29 * beniwtv goes to try it Jan 22 14:23:30 playya? Jan 22 14:23:47 beniwtv, i've just applied some of peter strapp's patch Jan 22 14:28:09 shoragan: works, very cool :) Jan 22 14:28:25 mrmoku: "real" ? Jan 22 14:29:07 shoragan: however, there should be a "please wait" message or something while the request comes back. One almost thinks it's not doing anything :) Jan 22 14:29:40 Ainulindale: om-2009 and shr.conf ;) Jan 22 14:30:20 and EFL = 38657 Jan 22 14:30:20 beniwtv, that would be some more code, as we need to keep state ;) Jan 22 14:32:53 make menuconfig Jan 22 14:33:09 hmm, that didn't work.. Jan 22 14:33:23 Ainulindale: at least I can try to debug the segfault on new SMS with current EFL Jan 22 14:33:57 shoragan: yeah... :-/ Jan 22 14:34:35 zhone is missing a real design Jan 22 14:37:41 mrmoku: wow what's that? =) Jan 22 14:38:28 what? Jan 22 14:38:47 the real SHR or the segfault Jan 22 14:38:49 ? Jan 22 14:40:08 sad thing is... none of the E bugs are solved :( Jan 22 14:40:33 still CPU sucking... still slow dict and still crash on certain chars in number keyboard Jan 22 14:41:08 well shr.conf and such Jan 22 14:41:44 well, I started it... copied the openmoko one and replaced all openemoko with shr ;) Jan 22 14:41:57 then started a build Jan 22 14:44:10 hey ptitjes Jan 22 14:58:32 /msg NickServ pwgen spam123 Jan 22 14:59:09 Ahem :-) Jan 22 14:59:20 *G* ... that went wrong ... Jan 22 14:59:40 mrmoku: NOTE: Running task 3093 of 6801 Jan 22 15:00:38 hey, almost half way through :P Jan 22 15:00:57 Ainulindale: with which EFL is it? the same one from before? Jan 22 15:01:26 btw. I saw raster was here... Jan 22 15:03:15 hey Ainulindale Jan 22 15:03:35 may I pass to see you this evening ? Jan 22 15:04:48 does the e consuming cpu issue has been solved ? Jan 22 15:04:58 not this evening Jan 22 15:05:14 mrmoku: yeah the same one, and yeah I saw raster here but only in the logs Jan 22 15:09:03 pity Jan 22 15:09:30 ptitjes: I'm supposed to spend the evening with my girlfriend Jan 22 15:09:36 :) Jan 22 15:09:36 And tomorrow I'm supposedly playing music Jan 22 15:09:58 no probs Jan 22 15:10:16 I just need to get my cds back cause of those is not mine :) Jan 22 15:10:50 btw succeeded in having a multi-threaded 3.1 XSB ebuild!! :D Jan 22 15:11:10 first steps to an openembedded build Jan 22 15:11:58 ptitjes: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7tvtu_mdr_music Jan 22 15:12:01 enjoy Jan 22 15:13:03 Ainulindale: ptitjes: what's buzz rework status? :-) Jan 22 15:13:22 Still waiting for him :-) Jan 22 15:13:42 DocScrutinizer2: have to go buying a tiny iron pan... Jan 22 15:13:53 those resistors are really small Jan 22 15:14:08 :( Jan 22 15:14:11 yup ptitjes that's mandatory Jan 22 15:14:57 (small) we need to invent a stronger word for that Jan 22 15:15:23 a stronger word for what ? Jan 22 15:15:34 microscopic? Jan 22 15:15:42 :p Jan 22 15:16:09 Ainulindale: who did that video ? Jan 22 15:17:40 ptitjes: it's written on the comments Jan 22 15:17:44 Astounding, isn't it? Jan 22 15:17:52 really naze Jan 22 15:17:54 :) Jan 22 15:18:01 I wouldn't have been able to do half as good :-) Jan 22 15:18:19 may I correct the image content wiki page to link to shr-project ? Jan 22 15:18:28 MDR Jan 22 15:18:48 yep you can Jan 22 15:19:15 Ainulinda: I have some problems with building the shr-lite-image, there is after a successfull build no busybox in my rootfs Jan 22 15:19:22 can't remember what the correct url however... Jan 22 15:19:33 is this a current problem with shr-lite-image? Jan 22 15:20:34 morphis: I didn't have this problem Jan 22 15:21:01 hm, I did an update last night Jan 22 15:21:41 gtk suck Jan 22 15:22:03 morphis: I'm currently rebuilding an image, will you be able to try? Jan 22 15:22:35 Ainulinda: I can, but compiled my image for another machine Jan 22 15:22:59 That is? Jan 22 15:23:09 eten-m800 Jan 22 15:23:20 eeeeek Jan 22 15:23:27 maybe thats the problem? Jan 22 15:23:32 Well probably yes Jan 22 15:23:34 could you share? Jan 22 15:23:55 DocScruti: what? Jan 22 15:24:01 my image? Jan 22 15:24:07 M800-image Jan 22 15:24:09 ptitjes: I Jan 22 15:24:18 jap :) Jan 22 15:24:22 ptitjes: I'll check out E cpu usage further later tonight Jan 22 15:24:42 mw|: great :) Jan 22 15:24:48 but not until I am at home (currently here over gprs) Jan 22 15:24:51 just got to fix dinner, and doing some work in the stable for my sick GF Jan 22 15:24:51 do you have any hints ? Jan 22 15:25:13 DocScruti: you have an m800? Jan 22 15:25:20 s/an/a/ Jan 22 15:25:20 morphis meant: DocScruti: you have a m800? Jan 22 15:25:23 morphis: did you ever manage to power-down M800 with windoof using powerbutton? Jan 22 15:25:37 morphis: yup Jan 22 15:25:46 DocScruti: I don't try until now :) Jan 22 15:26:02 ptitjes: me you are asking for about hints? I started to rebuild some packages yesterday with CFLAGS=-g, so that I can actually use gdb to more than just symbol-backtracing Jan 22 15:26:04 cool Jan 22 15:26:10 but for now, BBL Jan 22 15:26:21 arf Jan 22 15:26:34 (and I have started to located the issue yes= Jan 22 15:26:47 ha! Jan 22 15:26:53 DocScruti: but at the moment you can't boot from the image because all busybox stuff is not installed, so we have no init Jan 22 15:27:24 gnah, won't like that Jan 22 15:28:43 I heard that some days ago the fso images had the same problem Jan 22 15:29:32 yup, me too Jan 22 15:30:03 so it was just the links that were missing IIRC Jan 22 15:30:47 can someone help my optimeze one thing ? Jan 22 15:32:01 DocScruti: ok, on my image no busybox is installed, it's more like busybox do_install is never performed Jan 22 15:34:14 in the end I hate busybox. ;) I prefer uncrippled decent originals Jan 22 15:34:42 hehe Jan 22 15:35:50 and I'm pretty much willing to spend a few MB for that Jan 22 15:37:02 so I added busybox manually to the build task Jan 22 15:47:27 hmpf Jan 22 15:48:50 is wsod @resume in andy-tracking from today a known bug? (bootloader is qi) Jan 22 15:48:53 next try ... Jan 22 15:51:03 elektranox: maybe ask Andy? Jan 22 15:51:23 mickey|lunch? Jan 22 15:51:26 or alphaone? Jan 22 15:51:32 stefan_schmidt? (are you late ? :->) Jan 22 15:51:54 Ainulindale: ? Jan 22 15:52:04 could you help yoyo ? Jan 22 15:52:07 http://pastebin.com/d4fe421b7 Jan 22 15:52:14 he would like to preload imports in python Jan 22 15:52:19 I have no idea if it's possible Jan 22 15:52:42 Ainulindale: oh, that's above my python knowledge too. Better ask mickey|lunch or shoragan Jan 22 15:53:01 :( Jan 22 15:53:19 I have a idea. I will try it Jan 22 15:53:28 yoyo: Preload in what way? Do you mean import them dynamically? Jan 22 15:53:48 preimporter Jan 22 15:53:52 shoragan: Python magic needed, yoyo likes to preload imports with python Jan 22 15:53:56 or somthink ~ Jan 22 15:54:27 when do you want to import them? Jan 22 15:55:01 I don't know. result shoud by faster start Jan 22 15:55:18 all app start in ~4.5 sec. Jan 22 15:55:35 from it ~2.3 it in (import gtk) Jan 22 15:56:11 you can't import them before starting your app Jan 22 15:56:14 ;) Jan 22 15:56:29 so there is no way to import them any earlier Jan 22 15:57:33 wasn't there a project for a python loader or something some time ago which would speed up things? Jan 22 15:57:34 ok then. is it posible to import code like in php ? Jan 22 15:57:56 blbl bla some code then if and if true import "myfile.py" Jan 22 15:58:00 yoyo, i don't know about php, how are they doing it? Jan 22 15:58:16 yoyo: yes, see the __import__ statement Jan 22 15:58:51 ooo :) Jan 22 15:59:10 but that won't help with your startup time Jan 22 15:59:27 correct :) Jan 22 15:59:38 I'm thinking about write some demon (pre starter) Jan 22 16:00:00 If you were developing in C you wouldn't have this problem :-> Jan 22 16:00:02 * Ainulindale whistles Jan 22 16:00:04 someone wanted to do that for fso Jan 22 16:00:10 pre-starter will import all necessery imports listen for example fifo and on demand fork :) Jan 22 16:00:21 well, it is done., called odaemond Jan 22 16:00:32 (stupid name ;) Jan 22 16:00:36 Could take a look and integration. :) Jan 22 16:00:45 shoragan: yeah, he promised to change :) Jan 22 16:02:03 but really it shouldn't be a subsystem of frameworkd Jan 22 16:02:19 otherwise we would have to clean up a lot of stuff after the fork Jan 22 16:02:43 I will try it Jan 22 16:02:47 for test Jan 22 16:02:59 shoragan: How would you handle this instead? Jan 22 16:03:04 yoyo, take a look at odeamond Jan 22 16:03:52 either it would fork at the beginning of the frameworkd startup Jan 22 16:04:12 or first start the preloader, then fork and load all subsystems Jan 22 16:04:31 hmm Jan 22 16:04:55 which really is the same ;) Jan 22 16:05:04 have to run now to fetch my gf Jan 22 16:05:08 Will be back later Jan 22 16:11:22 hyyy wird :/ fork is not good idea :/ Jan 22 16:16:30 ii imported libs are not aveilable in __import__(ed) file :/ Jan 22 16:17:02 ptitjes? Jan 22 16:17:30 o.O ? I spell wrong ? Jan 22 16:17:33 yoyo: true, but the same applies to import Jan 22 16:18:03 :( Jan 22 16:18:16 maybe you can store the references in a dict and then pass them to the constructor? Jan 22 16:19:14 that's what I did for a project here, at least. Can put an example for you if you want :) Jan 22 16:21:56 does someone know how to compile connman ? i got errors because of missing connman/dbus.h .. Jan 22 16:25:23 pwgen: rebuild dbus first Jan 22 16:25:43 i feared that answer .. Jan 22 16:25:44 (Or so I think that's what mickey|lunch told me to do) Jan 22 16:25:55 pwgen: well here it compiled so, I can't tell you more than that :-) Jan 22 16:27:12 i have to use dbus-1.2.1-r9 .. thats right ? Jan 22 16:27:22 pwgen: are you using parallell build (in either bitbake and or make?) Jan 22 16:27:30 yes Jan 22 16:27:34 on't Jan 22 16:27:38 don' Jan 22 16:27:59 don't, my guess is that the .h is generated, and parallell make can f*ck it up Jan 22 16:28:02 worth the try Jan 22 16:28:26 bitbake -c mrproper before you retry, so that all automake rebuild Jan 22 16:29:51 i fear i have to rebuild all .. Jan 22 16:30:40 pwgen: FYI that's what I did today Jan 22 16:32:25 ok seems to be the task for this night .. Jan 22 16:32:56 mickey|lunch: you should really answer the mail about opimd on community Jan 22 16:34:00 opimd opimd opimd... Jan 22 16:34:03 always opimd Jan 22 16:34:12 however, I get my baabbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Jan 22 16:34:19 my newww ggiiiibbbssssoooonnnnnnnnnnnnn Jan 22 16:34:29 * Hire drools on the floor Jan 22 16:34:38 bbl, leaving the working in a stable for some hours Jan 22 16:37:08 yoyo, the imports are not accessible in other modules, but importing them is really fast Jan 22 16:37:50 really beed Jan 22 16:37:52 ok i think i have do do a rm tmp -rf and try a new clean build .. see you tomorrow ... Jan 22 16:38:12 shoragan: or as I said, you can hold a reference to all of them in your importer module, and then just pass them along when you load a module Jan 22 16:38:28 beniwtv, python holds the references anyway Jan 22 16:38:56 import sys Jan 22 16:39:01 print sys.modules Jan 22 16:39:04 Ainulindale: yeah ? Jan 22 16:39:27 shoragan: umm... but can you access them through sys.modules? Jan 22 16:39:28 ok my app is slow and will be Jan 22 16:40:21 beniwtv, sure: Jan 22 16:40:22 >>> sys.modules["os"].getpid() Jan 22 16:40:22 20860 Jan 22 16:40:32 ptitjes: I have a db dump for piratebab issue Jan 22 16:40:34 wanna look? Jan 22 16:40:39 'import foo' looks in sys.modules first Jan 22 16:40:43 yeah send it to me Jan 22 16:40:48 I'll sqlite3 it Jan 22 16:40:54 and returns it when it's there already Jan 22 16:41:11 ptitjes: I have to remember your mail then Jan 22 16:41:21 Ainulindale: however, did you see the ophonekitd log in #260 Jan 22 16:41:22 ? Jan 22 16:41:32 ptitjes: please gimme your mail =) Jan 22 16:41:36 shoragan: ah, if I knew that I would have saved a lot of headaches, but alas, it's now in production. To late to change it :) Jan 22 16:41:37 ptitjes@free.fr Jan 22 16:41:54 sent Jan 22 16:42:32 python isn't that stupid with imports :) Jan 22 16:42:36 ptitjes: known issue, working in unstable Jan 22 16:42:40 noone cares about my new gibson :( Jan 22 16:42:50 Hire: Gibsons suck Jan 22 16:43:06 ibanez sucks :/ Jan 22 16:44:28 it is too heavy for my taste :\ Jan 22 16:44:57 and has a sound too much muffled Jan 22 16:48:54 Ainulindale: as you can see there is no problem on the db part, I suspect there is a problem on the gui part http://pastebin.com/d692635f8 Jan 22 16:49:21 But isn't this the same as bug #260 ? Jan 22 16:49:53 And why does frameworkd give such a number ? Jan 22 16:50:59 Ainulindale: Don't know how to reproduce this... Jan 22 16:51:48 ptitjes: you shouldn't have pastebin that and posted it here Jan 22 16:52:02 ptitjes: that's not frameworkd that's an issue with private numbers Jan 22 16:58:20 ou cheat Jan 22 16:58:25 i'm stupid Jan 22 16:58:44 "cheat" ? :-) Jan 22 16:58:55 shoragan: ok import ok what about include? Jan 22 17:00:07 python has no include Jan 22 17:00:33 :( Jan 22 17:00:47 there is just import Jan 22 17:00:48 yoyo: import is like include, anyway Jan 22 17:00:55 exactly' Jan 22 17:00:56 not realy Jan 22 17:01:35 what do you need to do? Jan 22 17:01:38 not exacly Jan 22 17:02:36 it's clean Jan 22 17:04:57 ptitjes: http://kikoolol.memepasmal.net/?q=YmxvZy5zaHItcHJvamVjdC5vcmc%3D&hl=0 Jan 22 17:06:15 whats that? Jan 22 17:06:27 wow excelent Jan 22 17:07:21 mrmoku: SMS-talk "french" style Jan 22 17:07:40 It doesn't run well on english though Jan 22 17:08:02 Ainulindale: Reminds me of http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/ :D Jan 22 17:08:10 hehe, it has borken my name ;) Jan 22 17:10:00 that also inserts laughting expressions a lot Jan 22 17:10:22 can't remember what ptdr means... Jan 22 17:10:26 "pété de rire" Jan 22 17:10:29 (rofl) Jan 22 17:10:34 oh yes Jan 22 17:10:35 (rofl is the translation) Jan 22 17:10:39 (I'm not "rofl"ing) Jan 22 17:11:32 kickdev is also funny :D Jan 22 17:12:19 well Jan 22 17:12:21 I'm "Juli1 kassignol LOOL" Jan 22 17:12:26 According to them Jan 22 17:12:28 someone calls me? Jan 22 17:12:35 aaarhhh Jan 22 17:12:40 isn't fun Jan 22 17:13:33 Hire: If you try to impersonate one of us again, I'll post a picture of your girlfriend! Jan 22 17:14:27 * mrmoku thought Hire is married with his alfa... didn't know he has a girlfriend ;) Jan 22 17:14:40 mrmoku: ( http://imagesforum.doctissimo.fr/mesimages/4357705/grosse%20gateau.jpg ) Jan 22 17:14:42 i am single since 4 months :/ Jan 22 17:15:00 ahahah Jan 22 17:15:00 ahahhahah Jan 22 17:15:02 hehe and Ainulindale showed me why :P Jan 22 17:15:03 isn't fun Jan 22 17:15:14 mrmoku: is so :( i love my alfa Jan 22 17:15:15 Hire: I thought all italian women were "mamas" :-) Jan 22 17:15:25 didn't fit in your alfa... right? Jan 22 17:15:26 why not? i love mature woman Jan 22 17:15:35 Well Jan 22 17:15:39 Good point with that one Jan 22 17:15:44 You don't need to heat your flat Jan 22 17:15:48 I'm sure she'll produce enough heat Jan 22 17:16:43 ahah sure Jan 22 17:16:49 hahaha I have somthing :) Jan 22 17:17:00 but for now, I am loving with alfa... and my new gibson Jan 22 17:17:50 Hire: for my part I'm in love with that thing http://www.calaquendi.org/gallery/v/Vacances-Julie-Julien/Londres/Londres+036.jpg.html Jan 22 17:17:58 (not peter pan) Jan 22 17:18:57 the statue? Jan 22 17:19:08 ehi but that is a children Jan 22 17:19:29 Yeah, french people love children. The more naked the better Jan 22 17:19:55 And we like to love each other with chainsaws. Jan 22 17:20:04 ahah Jan 22 17:20:11 NOTE: Running task 4468 of 6801 Jan 22 17:20:17 you have never see a my photo... for your sake Jan 22 17:20:33 Why ? =) Jan 22 17:21:05 http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v911/129/83/1455226073/n1455226073_119222_4586.jpg Jan 22 17:21:12 i am the second one from left Jan 22 17:21:26 that stupend guy with a leather jacket Jan 22 17:21:43 http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1407/93/88/1302282260/n1302282260_30235939_7877.jpg Jan 22 17:21:48 here the first from the right Jan 22 17:22:33 You look like a member of a boys band Jan 22 17:23:00 probably :D Jan 22 17:23:15 http://www.calaquendi.org/gallery/v/Vacances-Julie-Julien/Londres/Londres+045.jpg.html <--- wow, you have a labret? Jan 22 17:23:23 Had. Jan 22 17:23:35 bad thing Jan 22 17:23:45 Tongue, labret, and eyebrow Jan 22 17:23:55 It's been two years I removed them Jan 22 17:24:46 Only thing I kept from my "wild years" (:-)) is my tatoo. Jan 22 17:29:35 oh yes I see now the eyebrow :D Jan 22 17:29:35 i have a labret Jan 22 17:30:05 well unfortunately Jan 22 17:30:12 I can't have piercings for my work Jan 22 17:30:54 yes... here is the same ... Jan 22 17:31:53 in fact I want a tatoo Jan 22 17:31:59 but I can't for my work .. Jan 22 17:32:24 i want to do it on my wrist Jan 22 17:32:28 Heh Jan 22 17:32:37 It's on my back, so as long as I don't wear white shirts... Jan 22 17:33:11 back? Jan 22 17:33:16 i have a nice scarred butt :D Jan 22 17:33:41 http://www.ainulindale.net/images/malklite.png Jan 22 17:33:56 (I don't have a better picture) Jan 22 17:34:22 ahah nice :D Jan 22 17:35:22 I want to tatoo this eye http://tdaxp.blogspirit.com/images/medium_tool_lateralus.jpg Jan 22 17:35:25 on my wrist Jan 22 17:35:39 Hmmm Jan 22 17:35:43 I don't like it, but that's me =) Jan 22 17:35:51 ( because tool is my fav band ) Jan 22 17:36:03 You have no taste Jan 22 17:36:41 Hire: http://www.masterpiecepumpkins.com/Graphics/logos_Zappa-Moustache%20(.5)_____.jpg Jan 22 17:36:45 That's better :-) Jan 22 17:37:04 ahaha Jan 22 17:37:09 why not? :D Jan 22 17:38:47 i have to rip some cds of zappa on my hd Jan 22 17:39:26 butt I amm soooo llllazzzyyyy Jan 22 17:42:18 hahahahha :) optymalization from 4.5 sec to 0.3 :) Jan 22 17:42:22 juupii Jan 22 17:43:19 yoyo: optimize shr-settings :D Jan 22 17:43:33 yyy dos1: openmoko.pl Jan 22 17:54:56 yoyo: what did you do at the end? Jan 22 17:55:42 beniwtv: little codeing little cheat Jan 22 17:57:13 :) Jan 22 18:08:45 jeeeee :) 0.2 sec Jan 22 18:12:50 yoyo: now your're making me jealous :) Jan 22 18:13:51 beniwtv: it is realy cheating :) Jan 22 18:14:35 ussd support in zhone looks nice :) Jan 22 18:14:40 (from user side) Jan 22 18:15:20 but it misses my patch, which i sended to libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;D Jan 22 18:15:25 dos1: yep... just we need a 'please wait' message or something. First time I thought it wasn't doing anything.. Jan 22 18:16:05 dos1: you have access Jan 22 18:16:39 Ainulindale: i'm talking about zhone now; for lfd i commited patch some time ago :) Jan 22 18:16:56 Ok :-) Jan 22 18:28:55 oh, i still have some shr-testing packages on my shr-unstable rootfs :x Jan 22 18:28:59 with .1 Jan 22 18:29:19 i'm fixing it now ;D Jan 22 18:29:29 at least vagalume has icons! ^^ Jan 22 18:29:37 s/least/last/ Jan 22 18:29:38 dos1 meant: at last vagalume has icons! ^^ Jan 22 18:33:13 mrmoku: do we get a new image soon? if not i'll flash the one from the 19th Jan 22 18:46:25 hahaha loader don't make more then 90` :) Jan 22 18:48:10 Ainulindale: how's the build going? Jan 22 18:48:21 bumbl: Ainulindale is building today :-) Jan 22 18:48:38 ah Jan 22 18:51:49 hi building qemu_0.9.1 with mokomakefile forkbombs my system with pkg-config and glib-config any ideas what creates it ? Jan 22 19:00:27 hmm it seems to be the # VNC TLS detection Jan 22 19:22:31 * bumbl damns the bluez stack and gnokii Jan 22 19:32:07 connman failed to build Jan 22 19:33:12 Ainulindale: Yes, take it out of tasks-fso-complience until we have fix please Jan 22 19:33:40 Well yesterday I built it properly IIRC Jan 22 19:33:45 Ainulindale: I just pushed a fso/milestone5 branch which we will work in until the release to get out of the current OE struggle Jan 22 19:34:07 Ainulindale: I bet at the point where mickey had included the 2009 prefered versions Jan 22 19:34:31 I think it is a problem that will go away with newer autotools, but I haven't had time to test Jan 22 19:35:00 For now I work hard to get images at all and break down the flood of changes to calm down for a release Jan 22 19:35:27 stefan_schmidt: Well then we should switch as well Jan 22 19:35:50 Ainulindale: Would be a good idea imho Jan 22 19:36:10 I'll send a mail later which explains what I'm doing and why Jan 22 19:36:59 Nice :-) Jan 22 19:38:40 The branch will die with the ms5 release and I hope to keep up with cheerypicking fixes from master and back. We will see Jan 22 19:51:32 hi Jan 22 19:53:06 * zem_ had a totally mad dream, again! Jan 22 20:05:49 error in framework :/ http://pastebin.com/d63ecde2d Jan 22 20:08:48 er, LOL? Jan 22 20:09:08 /sys/devices/platform/sc32440_fiq.0 seems to have a typo... Jan 22 20:09:18 should be s3c2440_fiq.0 Jan 22 20:32:04 mrmoku: lite image is here Jan 22 20:34:14 where? Jan 22 20:34:28 i see just the uimage from today Jan 22 20:35:08 Ainulindale: already from the new branch? not I guess Jan 22 20:35:44 Ainulindale: update the link ;) Jan 22 20:43:37 stefan_schmidt? Jan 22 20:43:46 Ainulindale: ? Jan 22 20:43:51 Is the branch available now? Jan 22 20:44:00 Ainulindale: it is, mail is out Jan 22 20:44:04 Yeah saw that Jan 22 20:44:08 mrmoku: could you switch to it? Jan 22 20:44:14 I'm stopping the build Jan 22 20:44:44 * stefan_schmidt builds without autorev now and will look to have an image for testing later tonight Jan 22 20:45:14 Ainulindale: ok Jan 22 20:46:20 * mrmoku is curious to see if the Makefile magic works :-) Jan 22 20:47:32 mrmoku: by switching I meant to the branch obviously Jan 22 20:48:40 yep... and by Makefile magic I ment fixing OE to fso/milestone5 :-) Jan 22 20:49:54 gps on gta01 not working :/ Jan 22 20:49:57 aaa Jan 22 20:52:37 ok, no-autorev build is through for 02. Now testing, upload and then looking into why 01 has broken symlinks from busybox Jan 22 20:53:53 Ainulindale: should I start building? Jan 22 20:57:12 stefan_schmidt: MS5-rc2 does not yet exist... have to be patient? Jan 22 20:57:29 mrmoku: yes Jan 22 20:57:48 mrmoku: Testing an image now. It does not fall apart I'll upload it. Jan 22 20:57:53 ok :-) Jan 22 20:59:03 *wonders if my ipk files are installable* Jan 22 21:05:39 * beniwtv is bored Jan 22 21:06:01 beniwtv: entertain me! Jan 22 21:06:21 Ainulindale: What images should I try from SHR? Jan 22 21:06:24 beniwtv: or hunt some bugs Jan 22 21:07:10 mrmoku: of course Jan 22 21:07:39 stefan_schmidt: you built without connman, but did not (yet) push it? Jan 22 21:07:57 mrmoku: just pushed :) Jan 22 21:08:32 ok, will update then :-) Jan 22 21:09:08 Ainulindale: restarted build Jan 22 21:09:15 brb Jan 22 21:09:53 beniwtv: I could give you some ideas to code if you like Jan 22 21:09:57 * beniwtv entertains mw| with his super cool megaman suit Jan 22 21:10:11 * zem_ still has this mad dream Jan 22 21:10:32 coool Jan 22 21:11:02 mw|: I have one for the teletubbies too, if you want :P Jan 22 21:11:11 zem_: Python? Jan 22 21:12:00 beniwtv: I would actually love to own an invader zim or a gir suite Jan 22 21:12:01 beniwtv: xmpp + d-bus + gprs + some thechnik from imap-idle Jan 22 21:12:08 and for me, and one for my GF Jan 22 21:12:15 we're both invader zim fans Jan 22 21:12:32 (and dilbert, animated version) Jan 22 21:13:07 zem_: well code then you'll forget the dream :p Jan 22 21:13:44 shr really does take a long time to build Jan 22 21:13:45 bumbl: if you can wait for my 2 other projects coming first Jan 22 21:13:46 zem_: If I understand, you want apache on the FR? Jan 22 21:13:58 gurugentoo: s/shr// Jan 22 21:14:00 beniwtv: not exactly Jan 22 21:14:24 php-gtk :-p lets replace python :-p *kidding* Jan 22 21:14:31 Ainulindale: lol Jan 22 21:14:41 s/shr/shr-unstable/ Jan 22 21:14:45 zem_: but you want to access the FR remotely from GPRS then (web interface)? Jan 22 21:14:53 zem_: if you code for the 2 other projects you'll forget too Jan 22 21:14:59 beniwtv: I tried to play around a little bit with a ssh connection running on a suspended freerunner Jan 22 21:15:01 gurugentoo: if you manage, one time in your life, to survive through emerge -De world Jan 22 21:15:06 then you'll survive SHR Jan 22 21:15:56 bumbl: no, I will not forget because the two other projects are no coding projects Jan 22 21:16:02 Ainulindale: I've done it at one point, I think I was upgrading gcc and wanted the whole system compiled with the new one Jan 22 21:16:12 then Jan 22 21:17:08 beniwtv: and discovered that it is really possible to wakeup you fr by sending data through the ideling TCP connection Jan 22 21:17:09 mrmoku: is the build in a screen? Jan 22 21:17:32 Apparently, no Jan 22 21:17:54 zem_: cool. Didn't know it could wake up! Jan 22 21:18:07 beniwtv: So I want to access remotely using xmpp Jan 22 21:18:37 Ainulindale: me stupid has started it outside a screen :( Jan 22 21:18:59 6780 of 6783 (pulling in initscripts-openmoko) :( Jan 22 21:19:12 initscripts-openmoko? stop Jan 22 21:19:15 Stop everything Jan 22 21:19:16 zem_: That would have a few interesting use cases Jan 22 21:19:21 modify distro.conf Jan 22 21:19:25 stopped Jan 22 21:19:26 (oepnmoko.conf) Jan 22 21:19:30 beniwtv: ack. Jan 22 21:19:38 and put ?= instead of = for the initscripts Jan 22 21:19:40 zem_: for example, you could access the FR and ask it's GPS location if you ever loose it Jan 22 21:19:42 just to load ours Jan 22 21:20:20 beniwtv: you can push jabber messages/e-mails/news/whatever Jan 22 21:20:31 hello guys Jan 22 21:20:44 Ainulindale: did and restarted build inside screen - can watch it now :-) Jan 22 21:20:59 im trying to compile something on om (fso ) but i get c compiler error , Jan 22 21:21:08 mrmoku: I hope it'll work Jan 22 21:21:27 gfather: yes? what is the error? pastebin.com link? Jan 22 21:21:41 ok , 1 minute Jan 22 21:21:42 beniwtv: you can syncronize youre desktop PC Contacts and Calendar entrys in realtime with the FR Jan 22 21:22:18 zem_: sure, that would be awesome, but not until I have a better data plan though, costs to much atm. Jan 22 21:22:19 beniwtv: with full featured end to end encryption of course Jan 22 21:22:38 zem_: yeah... gpg :) Jan 22 21:22:43 Ainulindale: is there some easy way to test lfg stuff btw.? Jan 22 21:23:01 (not that I'm in testing stage yet.. but want to be prepared) Jan 22 21:23:14 mrmoku: I was thinking about that today Jan 22 21:23:16 beniwtv: at the moment I already have a mobile flat, why not using it? ;-) Jan 22 21:23:17 PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND Jan 22 21:23:21 mrmoku: only way is unit testing Jan 22 21:23:21 1673 root 20 0 23248 14m 6268 R 52.7 12.6 0:25.76 python Jan 22 21:23:26 1693 root 10 -10 22916 11m 7228 S 30.2 10.0 0:20.64 enlightenment Jan 22 21:23:30 that is my current top Jan 22 21:23:32 mrmoku: but we'll settle for real time testing I guess Jan 22 21:23:32 python leading Jan 22 21:24:00 and dropped... python sucks much cpu the first 10 seconds after E seems to be finished to load Jan 22 21:24:15 zem_: hehe... I'm on prepaid cards, so no flat rate :( Jan 22 21:24:39 Ainulindale: ok Jan 22 21:25:05 zem_: But I'll probably switch to Simyo, which is also prepaid but you have 100MB of daily traffic for something like 1 euro Jan 22 21:25:21 any help pleas Jan 22 21:25:28 beniwtv: so everything you need for the first is a small xmpp-to-d-bus daemon and a xmpp server talking silently with each other Jan 22 21:25:30 zem_: 1 euro = 100MB Jan 22 21:26:01 beniwtv: there are some flatrates, too, but 1GB for 10 € looks good at me Jan 22 21:26:34 error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH Jan 22 21:26:38 hmm Jan 22 21:26:50 i have to start working on omoney again this weekend Jan 22 21:26:57 zem_: well, you could use something along the lines of cherrypy, then it's really easy to talk to d-bus Jan 22 21:27:19 zem_: Last time I checked it was quite lightweight Jan 22 21:28:29 beniwtv: I thought about a small deamon in C including a D-Bus Spec for the services Jan 22 21:29:44 zem_: Don't know C, used to program in Visual Basic (yeah I know) and when I switched to Linux I learned PHP and Python and did some mono as well Jan 22 21:30:49 beniwtv: Maybe a python script will work, too. ;-) Jan 22 21:32:07 zem_: Of course :) Jan 22 21:32:33 any little help Jan 22 21:33:04 gfather: Did you install a compiler? Jan 22 21:33:25 i try opkg install gcc , but i get error Jan 22 21:34:33 zem_: Communication could be done with XML or SOAP, to keep it standard, then 3rd parties could integrate their services as well (you'd have to provide them a secure key so no one can use your FR without permission) Jan 22 21:34:42 gfather: what does the error say? Jan 22 21:36:05 i An error ocurred, reurn value: -49900. Jan 22 21:36:24 beniwtv: xmpp should bring almost everything you need. Jan 22 21:36:46 gfather: no errors or warnings before that line? Jan 22 21:37:01 no :( Jan 22 21:37:27 do we actually have gcc available to run on the moko itself? Jan 22 21:38:09 could I now say.. that sounds like overkill.. Wouldn't tcc (tiny c-compiler) be more than enough Jan 22 21:38:38 i dont care , any c compiler that works , Jan 22 21:39:19 gfather: Haven't seen that error number before :-/ Jan 22 21:39:36 Ainulindale: scp'ing it now Jan 22 21:39:53 mw|: do we have a verbose command in opkg? (never checked) Jan 22 21:40:03 gfather: opkg install works for other packages? Jan 22 21:40:27 opkg --verbosity 3 install gcc Jan 22 21:40:35 give me any package to test Jan 22 21:42:26 mw| try opk on ur om , does it work ? Jan 22 21:42:37 gfather: python-core-dbg Jan 22 21:42:52 gfather: opkg works on my, using it currently Jan 22 21:43:55 :S maybe because im using fso image Jan 22 21:44:02 gfather: when was the last time you ran opk update? Maybe the lists are not up to date? Jan 22 21:44:12 s/opk/opkg Jan 22 21:44:20 i just tried that , im getting faild on most of them Jan 22 21:44:34 gfather: on the ones ending in .gz too? Jan 22 21:45:45 .gz seems to work Jan 22 21:46:00 all others error 4.4 Jan 22 21:46:02 404 Jan 22 21:46:13 it sounds very good my new guitar Jan 22 21:46:36 mw| try to compile fribidi Jan 22 21:47:19 gfather: yes, the signatures do not work yet Jan 22 21:47:21 How to I force opkg to install a local given ipk file instead of downloading from server ? Jan 22 21:49:32 Ainulindale: booting Jan 22 21:50:55 @ last :) Jan 22 21:51:03 ipkg install gcc worked Jan 22 21:51:25 but i still get the error in compiling Jan 22 21:51:30 :( Jan 22 21:52:39 gfather: IIRC, you have to install some more packages, give me a second to check which ones Jan 22 21:52:56 oks Jan 22 21:54:34 gfather: try gcc-symlinks Jan 22 21:55:20 its downloading :) Jan 22 21:55:21 Ainulindale: help? Jan 22 21:55:26 done Jan 22 21:55:58 gfather: don't exactly remember, do you get any other errors now? If yes, try typing gcc and see if you get "no input files" Jan 22 21:57:31 yes , i get errors , but new ones , after symlinks it found the gcc , but it say it cannot creat executables , so i think im missing some more packages Jan 22 21:58:41 heh.. yeah, I remember that, the error included the name of the program you also need to install Jan 22 21:59:04 but I can't remember the name right now :/ Jan 22 21:59:45 :| Jan 22 22:00:49 We really need a meta-package in the repos, like build-essential from debian, which pulls all required packages automatically :) Jan 22 22:01:49 yes :) Jan 22 22:03:01 Ainulindale: good news --> e does not suck cpu Jan 22 22:03:07 BAD NEWS --> because it is not installed :( Jan 22 22:04:55 Ainulindale: http://pastebin.com/m4b31d3dc tips? Jan 22 22:06:09 mw|: you could try with -force-depends... could be some other -dev packages depend on them Jan 22 22:06:25 mrmoku: same error :-( Jan 22 22:06:45 I need this, since it is for bughunting e Jan 22 22:07:05 this is a clean shr image installed from the buildhost Jan 22 22:07:14 as im drinking jack daniel and im gonna be off in 30 minutes , something like that :) Jan 22 22:09:45 and I followed http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Developing%20SHR Jan 22 22:09:51 has something changed in /etc/opkg* ? Jan 22 22:13:21 gfather: I have an idea :) I think I could still have it in my .bash_history Jan 22 22:13:27 let me take a look Jan 22 22:13:44 beniwtv i hope :) Jan 22 22:17:07 Ainulindale: it is the e-wm-utils problem... remember that I had it... don't remember how to solve it :( Jan 22 22:18:32 which problem ? Jan 22 22:18:49 remove the stamps, remove the ipks, and voila Jan 22 22:19:28 raster ! Jan 22 22:19:42 BOO! Jan 22 22:19:44 * raster hides Jan 22 22:20:10 * mrmoku a whole bunch of SHR devs starts to search and chase raster :-) Jan 22 22:20:11 lool Jan 22 22:20:17 raster: latest andy tracking, e, 30% cpu stating the default theme, no apparent reason. Ideas? Jan 22 22:20:32 (tried with 2.6.24, no issue) Jan 22 22:20:42 Ainulindale: no idea. Jan 22 22:20:47 (on the e side that is) Jan 22 22:20:53 it shouldnt Jan 22 22:20:57 it doesnt on desktop Jan 22 22:21:00 raster: any news on the dictionnary side ? Jan 22 22:21:01 or on my plam Jan 22 22:21:05 or beagleboard Jan 22 22:21:08 none Jan 22 22:21:15 raster: yeah, andy tracking is crap we all know that :-) Jan 22 22:21:30 but cpu-wise Jan 22 22:21:37 cant say Jan 22 22:21:55 e happily uses 0 or effecitvely 0 on everything else Jan 22 22:21:56 we straced it and couldn't pinpoint the problem Jan 22 22:22:13 well unless its x traffic Jan 22 22:22:26 do u have the strace log? Jan 22 22:22:44 is the only thing e hunting the usb devices for a bluetooth one every second and checking if its on? Jan 22 22:22:47 raster: it is x-traffic Jan 22 22:22:52 (u'll spot it) Jan 22 22:22:59 and it runs at the same framerate as X is configured to Jan 22 22:23:07 raster: we tried to disable everything Jan 22 22:23:09 same issue Jan 22 22:23:13 mw|: x or e? Jan 22 22:23:20 (I'll leave you to it, off for a smoke) Jan 22 22:23:26 and I have gdb'et it down to it beeing one widget beeing very active Jan 22 22:23:33 but it stopped there, since I was missing proper gdb symbols Jan 22 22:23:45 and opkg didn't want to install local ipk files Jan 22 22:23:53 and I'm now overwriting files by hand and rebooting Jan 22 22:24:07 hahahaha Jan 22 22:24:11 hmm Jan 22 22:24:18 if its x traffic - thats odd Jan 22 22:24:19 (and my back works like hell after working for my sick GF (she has horses) ) :-p Jan 22 22:24:30 unless its a self-feeding evebt loop Jan 22 22:24:34 those can happen Jan 22 22:24:38 eg e does something Jan 22 22:24:40 raster: I believe it to try resizing some widget over and over again Jan 22 22:24:49 can be "math" error, that it is resized to the wrong value Jan 22 22:24:50 then thaqt something causes an x event Jan 22 22:24:54 that e responds to Jan 22 22:24:57 by doing something Jan 22 22:25:03 that causes the same event again Jan 22 22:25:04 and so on Jan 22 22:25:53 beniwtv any luck ? Jan 22 22:26:43 other than that - can't say Jan 22 22:26:47 nver seen it anywhere Jan 22 22:27:13 gfather: found it :) Jan 22 22:27:23 at last :D Jan 22 22:27:30 and my recompilation with CFLAGS=-g didn't work Jan 22 22:27:31 you need the command cc1, let's see in what package it is Jan 22 22:27:32 "!#?<(/"#? Jan 22 22:28:27 *try to bitbake again* Jan 22 22:28:55 *loading 6448 .bb files again on my slow slow disk* Jan 22 22:29:18 mw|: Last time I debugged illume I used this in e-wm: Jan 22 22:29:19 CFLAGS := "${@oe_filter_out('-O', '${CFLAGS}', d)}" Jan 22 22:29:19 CFLAGS += "-g -O0" Jan 22 22:29:43 mw|: That and installing the dbg packages for the symbols made gdb happy Jan 22 22:29:47 I just did CFLAGS="-g" in local.conf Jan 22 22:29:48 yo raster Jan 22 22:29:57 raster: How is the summer? Jan 22 22:30:05 (and it did glibc fail to compile due to "must have optimizeflags in order to compile glibc) Jan 22 22:30:41 mw|: basically this needs traqce level stuff - ltrace may help Jan 22 22:30:44 mw|: hmm, I had problems with -O and zecke gave me this hint Jan 22 22:30:48 or printfs Jan 22 22:30:58 stefan_schmidt: pretty cold actually :) in tasmanian atm Jan 22 22:31:02 err Jan 22 22:31:04 tasmania Jan 22 22:31:06 :) Jan 22 22:31:06 raster: ltrace segfaults on our platform according to other people that tested Jan 22 22:31:11 raster: ah, LCA Jan 22 22:31:19 LCT better Jan 22 22:31:21 yeah Jan 22 22:31:31 mw|: bugger. i've used it before... Jan 22 22:31:46 raster: I do have backtraces Jan 22 22:31:55 but they are symbols only, no parameters Jan 22 22:32:02 and I know the callpaths logic Jan 22 22:32:26 but due to gdb data missing, I'm unable to add watch points to trigger what makes it refresh Jan 22 22:32:33 hmmm Jan 22 22:33:09 callpaths better than nothing Jan 22 22:33:32 gfather: searching for the package name right now... but you need the command cc1, shouldn't be so hard to find if you need to go and find it later Jan 22 22:33:34 (seems like changing CFLAGS, and bitbake evas hasn't made any changes.. doing -c mrproper now) Jan 22 22:33:56 raster: is there a edje callback that is called whenever the container of that swallow part is resized? Jan 22 22:34:23 beniwtv ill wait :) Jan 22 22:34:34 if i go now , il never find it Jan 22 22:34:36 :) Jan 22 22:34:52 raster: give me an hour, and I'll see what I can dig out Jan 22 22:34:59 tom is my weekend , so ill try to hold myself up Jan 22 22:35:06 just started to look at it some 30 minutes last night, and started again now Jan 22 22:36:12 raster: can I take you a moment? Jan 22 22:38:18 dolf1074: u mean the edje object itself? Jan 22 22:38:32 dolf1074: that holds the swallow part? Jan 22 22:38:42 mw|: kkk Jan 22 22:38:53 yoyo: no taking me! :) Jan 22 22:39:22 raster: one task Jan 22 22:39:53 can you some how port a posibility tu open show keyboard in elementary? Jan 22 22:40:26 (he wants to remotely show the keyboard from a python script if I remember right) Jan 22 22:40:29 at present time zhone have itz own title appp to do dath from python Jan 22 22:41:34 gfather: I think it is cpp-symlinks Jan 22 22:43:23 beniwtv :( , i installed ccp , and ccp-symlinks to make sure , but didnt work also Jan 22 22:43:23 yoyo: elementary's entries automatically request the keyboard when they are focused Jan 22 22:43:36 raster: yes Jan 22 22:43:41 (when focused) Jan 22 22:43:42 raster: I know it. Jan 22 22:44:02 gfather: is /usr/libexec/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/cc1 there now? Jan 22 22:44:03 raster: problem is if you use gtk Jan 22 22:44:11 raster: I just made a new elm widget and want to update the label in that widget whenever it resizes Jan 22 22:44:39 it = the widget Jan 22 22:44:47 yoyo: thats gtk's problem. installt he matchbox input method immodule and it will work Jan 22 22:44:49 raster beniwtv yes Jan 22 22:45:13 raster: I see :/ Jan 22 22:45:22 gfather: ok, do ln -s /usr/libexec/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/cc1 /usr/bin/cc1 Jan 22 22:45:29 and there ya go :) Jan 22 22:45:59 dolf1074: lots of things u can do Jan 22 22:46:04 where do u want to do it from Jan 22 22:46:09 one is enough :p Jan 22 22:46:14 i am not 100% sure precisely what u want to do Jan 22 22:46:19 but thewre are resize callbacks on objects Jan 22 22:46:31 gfather: what error do you get btw? Jan 22 22:46:50 evas_object_event_callback_add(wd->label, EVAS_CALLBACK_CHANGED_SIZE_HINTS, _changed_size_hints, wd->widget); Jan 22 22:46:54 doesn't do it Jan 22 22:47:09 (or I'm to tired to see my fault ;) ) Jan 22 22:47:19 that hooks to if min/max etc. size hints are changed Jan 22 22:47:30 gfather: do you have gcc-symlinks installed aswell? Jan 22 22:47:39 not on any resize tho Jan 22 22:47:39 just the hints Jan 22 22:47:42 gfather: weird, can you check that you have binutils-symlinks? Jan 22 22:47:50 mw| yes Jan 22 22:48:03 EVAS_CALLBACK_RESIZE Jan 22 22:48:06 for example Jan 22 22:48:10 raster: thanks Jan 22 22:48:15 gfather: config.log says then? Jan 22 22:48:23 it should contain more details (like the output from gcc) Jan 22 22:48:30 is another callback Jan 22 22:48:35 juct look at Evas.h Jan 22 22:48:35 is gcc a valid command in the shell btw? Jan 22 22:49:05 hmmm, repository doesn't have binutils? Jan 22 22:49:06 to gcc or not to gcc :) Jan 22 22:49:18 yoyo: elementary has allthe controls u need Jan 22 22:49:18 and handles it "for you" Jan 22 22:49:27 dolf1074: btw - doing your own elm widgets... beware Jan 22 22:49:34 the internal widget api is not exported for a reason Jan 22 22:49:39 things WILL break Jan 22 22:49:47 if u rely on elm_widget* calls Jan 22 22:49:53 (outside of elm) Jan 22 22:49:56 gfather: have to go now :( But as mw| said, config.log will tell you what's wrong Jan 22 22:49:58 raster: ok. I have app in gtk not in elementary. one thing. posibility to open illume-keyboard from code Jan 22 22:50:24 config log dont say anything , but ill chek it again Jan 22 22:50:27 I realy need it Jan 22 22:50:51 gfather: k, bye Jan 22 22:50:52 yoyo: get the gtk matchbox keyboard immodule then any gtk entry will request the kbd when focused Jan 22 22:51:01 other than that u can manually set a property on your window Jan 22 22:51:13 raster: I don't whant to use matchbox keyborad Jan 22 22:51:14 :) Jan 22 22:51:26 raster: It is working till now :) Jan 22 22:51:55 _E_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD_STATE(ATOM) = _E_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD_ON Jan 22 22:52:03 for example Jan 22 22:52:03 set the atom Jan 22 22:52:16 mrmoku: by the way Jan 22 22:52:17 there are lots of atoms for the state of kbd Jan 22 22:52:21 to go faster with image generation Jan 22 22:52:22 dolf1074: funny how can I make it in python? Jan 22 22:52:26 don't forget you can comment testlab Jan 22 22:52:29 on, off, alpha, numeric, hex, etc. Jan 22 22:52:43 yoyo: u dont have to USE the keybgoard Jan 22 22:52:47 X atoms that control the keyboard ? Jan 22 22:52:53 yoyo: that kbd comes with code for a gtk input module Jan 22 22:52:55 yoyo: what do you mean? Jan 22 22:52:57 that is a plugin for gtk Jan 22 22:52:59 that requests a kbd Jan 22 22:53:00 raster: would you be able to tell me if someone is working on this dictionnary issue by the way? Jan 22 22:53:07 if u want take that code and split it out to its own package Jan 22 22:53:21 Ainulindale: hehe, need it to check if e is included though Jan 22 22:53:32 it is not dependent on the matchbox keyboard itself in any way Jan 22 22:53:34 or vice-versa Jan 22 22:53:40 they just happen to be packaged and written together Jan 22 22:53:45 mrmoku: IMHO, you should check task-x11-illume control file =) Jan 22 22:53:48 or write a new gtk immodule Jan 22 22:53:58 raster: in zhone is c file and port for python can someone port it as a separated package ? Jan 22 22:54:06 that uses properties, not the old matchbox kbd protocol Jan 22 22:54:13 (e supports the matcbox proto too) Jan 22 22:54:28 Ainulindale: florian said he was Jan 22 22:55:02 Ainulindale: ok... for the next build :P Jan 22 22:55:32 mw|: e supports 3 protocols. the matchbox qwerty kbd protocol, the matchbox number-pad input protocol and e's own property-based control method (which is by far the more solid and reliable one) Jan 22 22:55:37 it works with all of them Jan 22 22:56:14 i did that so i didnt have to go screwing with every other possible toolkit Jan 22 22:56:17 support existing ones someone else was working on Jan 22 22:56:24 E has it's own protocol besides X, or do they rely on XAtoms ? Jan 22 22:56:31 tho the matchbox protocols have problems Jan 22 22:56:35 they can easily have bugs Jan 22 22:56:47 e relies on properties on windows for its own Jan 22 22:56:53 ie yes - properties are atoms Jan 22 22:56:55 with data attached Jan 22 22:56:59 (which can be atoms) Jan 22 22:57:04 atoms are just integers Jan 22 22:57:17 that is nice, since that opens for non-e apps to communicate with the keyboard Jan 22 22:57:19 yoyo: eh? Jan 22 22:57:24 stefan_schmidt: wow, zhone has become sexy... since the last time I looked at it Jan 22 22:57:26 I see no chanse for that package :( Jan 22 22:57:42 it will be so simple Jan 22 22:57:49 mrmoku: That depends.. :) Jan 22 22:57:53 mw|: of course. its a wm. for thi it talks the same kind of protocols it does with all apps Jan 22 22:57:55 mrmoku: naked women? Jan 22 22:58:01 import illume-keyboard then illume.kbd_show( Jan 22 22:58:02 i could have only done the matchbox protocol Jan 22 22:58:06 but it has problems Jan 22 22:58:09 it had design flaws Jan 22 22:58:14 Ainulindale: not yet... but almost Jan 22 22:58:18 so i supported it for compatibility Jan 22 22:58:22 and dod a new one thats more solid Jan 22 22:58:28 Anyone developing the latest kernels and rfkill interface here? Jan 22 22:58:31 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/8d1966beeaf4ebfcf0c448ff160736d6.png Jan 22 22:58:33 what's that app? Jan 22 22:58:44 Ainulindale: I installed the fso image to see if it has the same problems ;) Jan 22 23:01:29 stefan_schmidt: would you see something against commits on your branch? Jan 22 23:02:12 Ainulindale: If you can make sure that it does not bring a regression I'm fine. If it breaks anything I'll revert Jan 22 23:02:19 stefan_schmidt: well Jan 22 23:02:23 I think you know me well enough... Jan 22 23:02:38 Ainulindale: I know. Just repeat me point Jan 22 23:02:43 I understand Jan 22 23:02:46 You're a whiny german Jan 22 23:02:47 :-) Jan 22 23:02:50 Ainulindale: go ahead if you have something Jan 22 23:02:56 But don't worry, that's the point, sharing efforts Jan 22 23:03:04 Ainulindale: And you are the drunken and smoking french? ;) Jan 22 23:03:18 I'm not drunk :-) Jan 22 23:03:22 But nonetheless Jan 22 23:03:28 I think we should keep the "fso" branch alive Jan 22 23:03:39 *finally, symbols in atleast one library* Jan 22 23:04:32 Ainulindale: hmm, e behaves just nice on fso... 0.0 CPU ??? Jan 22 23:04:49 mrmoku: diff testlab Jan 22 23:05:04 * mrmoku knew the testlab is of use ;) Jan 22 23:05:05 And check for initscripts difference for instance Jan 22 23:05:15 Or rev difference Jan 22 23:05:29 And stop gloating :-) Jan 22 23:05:57 im getting crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory Jan 22 23:05:59 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status anyone knows crt1.0 from which package ? Jan 22 23:06:25 hmm, our CPU doesn't support hardware watchpoints? Jan 22 23:07:03 Ainulindale: no testlab for fso... Jan 22 23:07:14 will examine the differences tomorrow Jan 22 23:07:22 have to go to bed :( Jan 22 23:07:23 well opkg list_installed mrmoku Jan 22 23:07:31 (this guy has no practical sense :-p) Jan 22 23:08:37 Ainulindale: hehe, first we need a image with e :P Jan 22 23:08:45 build finished and still without Jan 22 23:08:46 Indeed Jan 22 23:09:06 hmmm Jan 22 23:09:17 if you manage to build something usable tonight I promise to do diffing tomorrow morning :-) Jan 22 23:09:51 or if you're impatient I can give you the output of opkg list_installed Jan 22 23:09:57 It's part of the task-x11-illume, that's weird Jan 22 23:10:05 yoyo: ? i don't understand? Jan 22 23:10:11 mrmoku: opkg info task-x11-illume would be helpful Jan 22 23:10:45 raster: can you make a small package name for example python-illume-keyboard Jan 22 23:11:28 raster: and it will give posibility to import it in python and open keyboard. all that protocals and so one it make my chill Jan 22 23:12:14 Version: 1.0-r0 Jan 22 23:12:14 Depends: task-x11-server, task-x11-utils, e-wm, e-wm-config-illume, e-wm-theme-illume Jan 22 23:12:16 raster: I will make it by my self but I don't know so good bitbake :/ Jan 22 23:12:22 mrmoku: see? e-wm should be there Jan 22 23:12:27 yoyo: i wont be making one Jan 22 23:12:30 i have enough to do Jan 22 23:12:38 *grr* gdb has some hang-issues when it actually has gdb-data available on some libraries... it hangs when given "c" sometimes Jan 22 23:12:38 :( ok then Jan 22 23:12:46 i have written all the protocol handling code Jan 22 23:13:03 ok then I go back for my eleGlade :P Jan 22 23:13:07 mrmoku: you should read the image log :-) Jan 22 23:13:07 Ainulindale: I scp'ed fso-packages.txt to the tests dir on the buildhost Jan 22 23:13:12 done all the compat stuff Jan 22 23:13:14 if u just install the matchbox keyboard Jan 22 23:13:16 it will work Jan 22 23:13:18 just install the pkg Jan 22 23:13:24 u dont have to use the mb kbd Jan 22 23:13:31 but the inptu module will be installed and gtk will use it Jan 22 23:14:27 Ainulindale: yeah, but why that? Jan 22 23:14:41 shr@opmbuild:~/shr-unstable$ ls tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/*/*37812* Jan 22 23:14:41 ls: cannot access tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/*/*37812*: No such file or directory Jan 22 23:15:30 hmpf Jan 22 23:15:46 Alert: We are in the China! Jan 22 23:15:48 my bad :-) Jan 22 23:16:06 There's a bunch of 38274 Jan 22 23:16:39 hehe, ok... I'm going to sleep now. If raster and mw| don't solve the cpu issue I will look for differences between fso and shr tomorrow Jan 22 23:16:44 night all Jan 22 23:17:18 mrmoku: Jan 22 23:17:19 wait Jan 22 23:17:23 tmp/stamps/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/e-wm-theme-illume-shr-1.0-r3.do_build Jan 22 23:17:33 did you delete things? Jan 22 23:17:39 Raster, when is the pandora unleashed? Jan 22 23:17:40 I have a bunch of things like that Jan 22 23:18:37 Dave: beats me Jan 22 23:19:05 Aw :( Jan 22 23:19:20 How disappointing. Jan 22 23:34:24 raster: http://pastebin.com/m46f3d1db got two minutes Jan 22 23:35:19 ? Jan 22 23:38:38 (got edje gdb available now aswell) Jan 22 23:38:44 *ping -f raster* Jan 22 23:38:52 Is 2.6.28 stable? Jan 22 23:39:17 quite. Jan 22 23:39:20 {path = 0x1376e4 "/usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume-shr.edj", group = 0x18beb4 "e/modules/battery/main" .... is the issuer of the redraw at 30 fps Jan 22 23:39:25 now, lets find the cause Jan 22 23:39:33 is the typo i mentioned some hours ago corrected? Jan 22 23:41:28 Ainulindale: *ping* Jan 22 23:41:42 raster_: *ping* Jan 22 23:42:13 mw|: ja Jan 22 23:42:50 http://pastebin.com/m439470eb Jan 22 23:42:59 raster: where is the source for the battery applet? Jan 22 23:43:03 Sargun Jan 22 23:43:13 (which package provides it?) Jan 22 23:43:29 (I want to be the bug-squizer) Jan 22 23:43:35 mw|: int he battery module Jan 22 23:43:37 theres 2 parts Jan 22 23:43:49 (which package? e itself?) Jan 22 23:43:55 batgt (small executbale that just polls for data and spews on stdout) Jan 22 23:43:57 in e itself Jan 22 23:44:21 <- still chuckling about /sys/devices/platform/sc32440_fiq.0 Jan 22 23:44:30 then thje module side in e itself just reads the stdin Jan 22 23:44:42 (which should only be printed if anything changed status-wise) Jan 22 23:45:15 Wonka, what's so funny? Jan 22 23:45:20 raster: I'm on it Jan 22 23:45:58 Dave: it's supposed to be s3c instead of sc3, i think Jan 22 23:46:06 oh, hah! Jan 22 23:46:12 raster: e-wm then? Jan 22 23:46:17 shoragan: you rang? Jan 22 23:48:05 rwhitby: He is sleeping now Jan 22 23:48:37 Wonka: Could also be intention. Samsung sometimes refers to it as s3c but also as sc3 Jan 22 23:48:48 Wonka: A bit chaotic Jan 22 23:49:04 they should smoke less weed, maybe... Jan 22 23:49:10 o_O Jan 22 23:49:18 mw|: after that the changs are just passed to the batterymodule code which is really minimal Jan 22 23:49:23 Wonka: I don't think they do in Korea :) Jan 22 23:49:24 and just passes messages to the battery edje Jan 22 23:49:32 from there oon in the theme determines what to do Jan 22 23:49:35 or whatever they do Jan 22 23:49:35 how to display state Jan 22 23:49:46 magic? Jan 22 23:50:14 raster: doing bitbake e-wm now, can get further tomorrow then Jan 22 23:50:35 is the battery charging Jan 22 23:50:37 ? Jan 22 23:50:51 it is usb with red-light Jan 22 23:50:56 hmm Jan 22 23:50:56 2.6.28 kernel ofcourse Jan 22 23:51:00 is the battry animating? Jan 22 23:51:04 like glowing? Jan 22 23:51:11 no Jan 22 23:51:11 (around the +) Jan 22 23:51:17 it used to glow Jan 22 23:51:30 and the smooth anim really ate cpu Jan 22 23:51:35 (not sure which icon is the battery) Jan 22 23:51:39 well on the freerunner Jan 22 23:51:40 hm, SHR has this black-and-white battery drawing... Jan 22 23:51:43 it was fine most other places Jan 22 23:51:55 like it was an LCD Jan 22 23:51:56 I have a wierd looking lightning bolt Jan 22 23:51:57 i changed it to a simple blink very second Jan 22 23:52:05 so it will use some cpu - but very little Jan 22 23:52:06 and a * above a - Jan 22 23:52:28 aaah ok Jan 22 23:52:28 battery consumes 30 fps now Jan 22 23:52:31 well not sure there Jan 22 23:52:35 but that should be fine Jan 22 23:52:35 mw|: that's a "battery" on AC, and the GSM signal level, i think. sounds like SHR. Jan 22 23:52:47 but maybe someone KEPT the anim inthe ,.edj Jan 22 23:52:49 when they did it Jan 22 23:52:58 all i can suggest is to use e's out-of-the-box theme Jan 22 23:53:01 I can do further studies tomorrow Jan 22 23:53:04 as i KNOW it doesnt animate Jan 22 23:53:16 Just need to build shr first to the stage of e-wm Jan 22 23:53:20 (beyond the once per second blink) Jan 22 23:53:22 when charging Jan 22 23:53:30 then I can do simple fprintf() patches and figure out why it freaks out Jan 22 23:56:35 night Jan 22 23:59:26 raster: speak to you tomorrow evening Jan 22 23:59:40 time for going to bed.. my GF misses me :-) Jan 23 00:02:06 you could just use the .edj themes from upsteram Jan 23 00:02:07 :) Jan 23 00:03:50 raster: the point is, I want to fix the E consuming all CPU issue Jan 23 00:04:27 it could b the theme just doing silly stuff Jan 23 00:04:30 (both in order to learn, having fun, and figure out what is wrong with either how the data from the kernel is parsed, or what is written wrong in our theme) Jan 23 00:04:42 ok - cool :) Jan 23 00:04:53 :-) but now, sleep :-) Jan 23 00:04:55 but chanign the theme will eliminat that or identify it as a problem souce Jan 23 00:04:56 :) Jan 23 00:04:58 yes Jan 23 00:05:03 go give attention to the gf Jan 23 00:20:49 raster: ping (if you've got a minute, i have an elm_list that doesn't want to go away) Jan 23 00:21:25 dereeete it Jan 23 00:22:57 how? i don't see a delete function in elementary.h? Jan 23 00:25:13 do i have to delete it's items one at a time, or? Jan 23 00:28:38 Anton :) Jan 23 00:28:47 hey Dave Jan 23 00:36:43 aha! Jan 23 00:36:52 evas_object_del :) Jan 23 00:37:21 :) Jan 23 00:37:39 hiding it in evas.h...sneaky Jan 23 00:38:04 hrm Jan 23 00:38:30 now to figure out the best way to delete a local var from another function Jan 23 00:38:57 or, i may not have to Jan 23 00:39:25 hi, just join a project on projects.openmoko.org and having some trouble commiting with svn, i'm getting a permission denied error and not being prompted for a password, any ideas what the problem could be? Jan 23 00:39:39 s/join/joined/ Jan 23 00:39:40 jonsmith1982 meant: hi, just joined a project on projects.openmoko.org and having some trouble commiting with svn, i'm getting a permission denied error and not being prompted for a password, any ideas what the problem could be? Jan 23 00:40:09 lol who's idea is that bot? Jan 23 00:40:28 dunno, but they are quite common Jan 23 00:41:03 mmh ... Jan 23 00:41:10 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Jan 23 00:41:22 s/m/is dos possible with that phrase/ Jan 23 00:41:22 Cybil meant: is dos possible with that phrasemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Jan 23 00:41:37 man sed Jan 23 00:45:18 raster: is it "best practice" to delete any object you are not currently using? Jan 23 00:48:43 AntonTakk: well elementary builds on top of evas Jan 23 00:48:45 and edje Jan 23 00:48:49 so as such many core things are just done through there directly Jan 23 00:53:00 Hi Cybil! Jan 23 00:53:01 weeew Jan 23 00:53:05 new packages on SHR Jan 23 00:53:24 kernel too Jan 23 00:53:25 :O Jan 23 00:54:17 AntonTakk: gnerally- yes Jan 23 00:54:50 ok, thanks, gonna throw this code together and hope it works like i think it does :) Jan 23 01:01:41 raster: you are the master for my if its going about elementary Jan 23 01:02:24 chk it http://d3p.pl/tmp/eleGlade_0.1.png and can you help me with a size_hint_weight_set size_hint_align_set Jan 23 01:02:38 sorry for the resolution Jan 23 01:02:40 * Dave pokes Cybil Jan 23 01:18:31 yoyo: that took a while to fetch Jan 23 01:18:39 what do u want to do? Jan 23 01:18:47 theres lots of examples in the test.c Jan 23 01:18:49 kill some time :P Jan 23 01:18:51 and elementary tests Jan 23 01:18:55 as well as the elementary wiki Jan 23 01:22:41 raster : chk it :) http://d3p.pl/tmp/eleGlade_0.2.png Jan 23 01:29:06 set align for label to 0.5 0.5 Jan 23 01:29:18 for all buttons set them to -1.0 -1.0 Jan 23 01:29:27 set weight for all to 1.0 1.0 Jan 23 01:30:03 I need tu understend align -1.0 0.5..... and weight .... Jan 23 01:31:14 -1.0 for align == fill the area given Jan 23 01:31:29 0.0-1.0 is alignment (left to right, top to bottom) Jan 23 01:31:35 0.5 of course is centered Jan 23 01:33:31 it handle quite well http://d3p.pl/tmp/eleGlade_0.3.png Jan 23 02:01:41 yeess :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 23 02:59:57 2009