**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 08 02:59:57 2009 Mar 08 03:18:43 :P Mar 08 04:39:01 <|Leto|> avtobiff, choose between libsdl-x11 and libsdl-native, if you please Mar 08 04:43:37 does gprs work for anybody with the newest shr testing? I always get "ActivateContext failed: org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.NoChannel" Mar 08 04:48:55 budfive: i think i made it work Mar 08 08:39:27 mwester: just saw your mail (about warranty). I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one feeling weird about this issue ! :) Mar 08 09:00:18 PaulFert`: pong. What do you mean by ETA of icons fix? Mar 08 09:01:53 * juri_ twitches, as 13,200 lines of kernel patch are dropped on her. Mar 08 09:03:12 juri_: cold kernel code shower? Mar 08 09:07:02 more like sipping from the firehose. Mar 08 09:14:05 hehe... sounds dangerous :P Mar 08 09:49:11 mrmoku`: hey, you are working a lot Mar 08 09:57:19 BluesLee: how comes you think so? :P Mar 08 09:58:15 when i look at http://shr.bearstech.com/git/ ... Mar 08 09:58:41 :-) Mar 08 09:58:53 * mrmoku` is doing a lot of commits without actually working ;) Mar 08 10:00:33 i see Mar 08 10:00:50 and i am doing nothing, just waiting for the results;-) Mar 08 10:01:34 okay, sometimes testing feedback Mar 08 10:28:38 no, i agree with BluesLee. mrmoku` *is* doing lots of valuable work Mar 08 10:29:49 * mrmoku` just wants a working phone :D Mar 08 10:31:44 BTW, new hint on the e cpu hog Mar 08 10:32:20 I always have 22-30% CPU useage from enlightenment now Mar 08 10:32:27 moving a .desktop file doesn't help Mar 08 10:32:41 so I attached to the process with strace and this is what I see: Mar 08 10:32:43 http://dpaste.com/9579/ Mar 08 10:33:03 spaetz: it's chatting with X probably Mar 08 10:33:10 basically it is repeatedly querying http://dpaste.com/9579/ Mar 08 10:33:17 err, gettimeofday, I mean Mar 08 10:33:31 gettimeofday({1236464750, 636201}, NULL) = 0 Mar 08 10:33:38 looks so Mar 08 10:33:51 spaetz: i think those reads and writes are a larger problem Mar 08 10:33:58 can you deactivate the time plugin? Mar 08 10:34:22 spaetz: what does xtrace show? Mar 08 10:35:35 and what happens if one uses the illume theme instead of illume-shr? Mar 08 10:36:18 spaetz: problem is... when enlightenment gets woken up out of its select it does a lot of things Mar 08 10:36:32 and we have to find out why it gets woken up in the first place (so frequently) Mar 08 10:38:22 BBIB, phone Mar 08 11:16:57 ok bac Mar 08 11:17:09 that pasted trace repeats endlessly and very quickly Mar 08 11:17:38 it reads and writes to some socket inbetween the gettimeofday calls Mar 08 11:18:02 mmh, need to feed kid. sorry. away again Mar 08 13:50:17 PaulFert`: seen audio rework? Mar 08 13:51:20 PaulFert`: I wonder who might decide to take effort and risk of this rework for a 22uF or even 47uF Mar 08 13:55:09 PaulFert`: btw risk to break everything on closing can lid is severe, as the Cs are free air mounted without mechanical support, on of both even single ended mount. will fall off on blowing at it Mar 08 13:58:39 anyway if I did the effort to fix audio for good, I'd use 2 decent 100uF tantalum at least, and not go for a "somewhat improved bass performance" Mar 08 14:14:34 for 47uF and a 16Ohm headset the -3dB cutoff frequency would be 70Hz. The 22uF used in this "feasibility test" result in 150Hz. And even with 47uF (which is just an assumption they may fit as well) and shorting R4405/4407 as recommended for better power saving, damping of speakers and higer volume the -3dB point is at 210Hz Mar 08 14:15:34 DocScrutinizer: not yet Mar 08 14:18:41 http://people.openmoko.org/andy/additional-headset-audio-caps.pdf Mar 08 14:20:11 DocScrutinizer: Already skimmed. Mar 08 14:20:30 I prefer your rework anyway :D Mar 08 14:21:38 DocScrutinizer: i didn't thought Andy will attempt to do it himself. And looks like he didn't even verified if his rework improves anything or not. And yes, 22u+1u is still too low, especially considering he didn't short the unnecessary R's. Mar 08 14:21:45 And I also strongly recommend to follow this line and use a decent 100uF electrolytic or tantalum Cs instead of a random 22uF ceramic nes Mar 08 14:22:00 What about 100uF ceramic 1206? Mar 08 14:22:32 ceramic introducing distorion due to the piezoceramic properties Mar 08 14:23:04 gets worse with lower maxVolt of C Mar 08 14:23:13 * mwester didn't know about that effect with ceramic. Mar 08 14:23:20 so if you use ceram, at least go for high maxV Mar 08 14:23:42 Rather cool, but I can see how that makes ceramic less-desirable in a lot of applications Mar 08 14:23:54 yup Mar 08 14:24:12 a strong argument for using tantal sometmes Mar 08 14:24:26 cost? is ceramic a lot cheaper then? Mar 08 14:24:35 I see. But his rework is much less questionable, as he avoids any chance of interference and shielding problems by not exposing anything outside the can. Mar 08 14:24:38 nah, even more expensive Mar 08 14:24:48 so what's the advantage? Mar 08 14:24:54 size Mar 08 14:25:02 ah, ok that's a bit one. Mar 08 14:25:07 longevity Mar 08 14:25:11 Also he can't affect BT antennae. Mar 08 14:25:17 sure Mar 08 14:26:01 BTW, read about that two funny controls and characters on tty. Funny, doesn't look like a coincedence. :) Mar 08 14:26:03 but if it neither fixes audio for good nor leaves a chance to close the can lid without destroying the whole FR, what it's worth then? Mar 08 14:26:37 (coinc) nope, not at all ;-) Mar 08 14:26:56 didn't bother to find and add to trac ticket yet Mar 08 14:27:02 dl circuit? Mar 08 14:27:13 you remember trac# off of top of your head? Mar 08 14:27:37 mwester: please elaborate Mar 08 14:28:05 LOL. Placebo probably. No, really, for a decent rework something like ipod blackgate mod should be done, going directly from the wolfson without questionable parts to the line in of some decent external amplifier. I'm not sure if it will work for regular headphones though. Mar 08 14:28:23 DocScrutinizer: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py Mar 08 14:28:36 I'm not sure what the tty characters is about; it that the new audio fix interfering with the headphone/GSM firmware DL thing? Mar 08 14:29:04 DocScrutinizer: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2209 Mar 08 14:29:24 mwester: nah, that's been a completely different story of nblanking screen on alsactl rstore Mar 08 14:29:40 Ah, ok. Sorry - I'm a bit behind on the latest issues. :( Mar 08 14:29:41 PaulFert`: thanx a lot!! :) Mar 08 14:29:57 mwester: that's funny stuff, alsactl restore wakes up X :) Mar 08 14:30:16 That is strange, indeed. Mar 08 14:31:14 BTW, to me it seems that Andy is trying to do something that should be good for community. To me it looks like his own initiative to try the bass fix. Mar 08 14:39:50 And i bet he's feeling uneasy about OM-the-company being silent about buzz-fix rework. Mar 08 14:48:01 * DocScrutinizer added comment to #2209 Mar 08 14:49:14 * DocScrutinizer won't add comment to "Re: Pulster fixe(s) / adding caps for bass"from:Andy beyond what's been written here in IRC Mar 08 14:49:54 in the end I had to call it "Andy's fix" XD Mar 08 14:51:36 * mrmoku is rebuilding unstable based on milestone5.5 branch now Mar 08 15:04:52 Fucking timehax... Mar 08 15:09:32 mrmoku: I was asking when will all shr-unstable users get their icons back by simple update/upgrade. Mar 08 15:10:05 PaulFert`: well... some hours ago? Mar 08 15:10:19 mrmoku: yes, now i know that. Great :) Mar 08 15:10:45 to tell the truth... upgrad won't bring them back... you have to install e-wm-utils Mar 08 15:10:49 +e Mar 08 15:13:18 mrmoku: Now that's interesting (and i suspected it, that's why i asked) Why hasn't anybody added it to depends? Mar 08 15:15:12 PaulFert`: well there was a patch to remove that dependency which we needed for the older EFL_SRCREV of testing Mar 08 15:15:19 and... well... I forgot about it :P Mar 08 15:16:29 though... for those situations we have dos1 in our team :-) Mar 08 15:16:42 mrmoku: why don't you change the depencies of one of the other packages? because one of them depends on e-wm-utils to display the icons and then it should install on next upgrade automatically Mar 08 15:17:33 Heinervdm: because there is no need for that... we're talking about unstable. And the next image Mar 08 15:17:34 Basically what i was hinted at ;) Mar 08 15:17:40 (which I'm building right now) will include it Mar 08 15:18:13 I don't see the problem with just installing the package by hand... Mar 08 15:19:01 mrmoku: imho if a package is needed by other package, it should be in depends. Just "common sense". ;) I see no reason to force your users to reflash or to install additional packages by hand ;) Mar 08 15:19:51 PaulFert`: well the thing is... it is in the depends... just that it is in the runtime dependencies of Mar 08 15:20:04 e-wm... and that package is already installed (without the needed dependency) Mar 08 15:20:29 I don't want to artificially add that dependency to another package Mar 08 15:20:31 mrmoku: then bump the e-wm local version with the needed dependency Mar 08 15:20:54 (like other distros do: r0, r1, r2...) Mar 08 15:21:07 that would be a solution... theoratically... because e-wm is in OE and we want to get rid of our OE patches Mar 08 15:21:14 not add some more to fix issues like that Mar 08 15:21:38 Ah, i see now. Ok, you proved you're right :) Mar 08 15:21:44 pheew, droptest. passed. anyway need to get me a spare N810 Mar 08 15:21:47 and lazy ;) Mar 08 15:27:37 LAZY LAZY LAZY Mar 08 15:27:46 * Dave slaps mrmoku around with EFL Mar 08 15:28:08 * mrmoku likes that ;P Mar 08 15:28:48 :o Mar 08 15:29:00 haha Mar 08 15:33:27 man, mrmoku is into some KINKY shit :P Mar 08 15:33:45 compiled too many EFL revisions... maybe Mar 08 15:34:03 ;D Mar 08 15:37:53 So, mrmoku Mar 08 15:38:02 How many builds have you completed in the past three days? Mar 08 15:39:41 hi i am trying to create training set for english letters for enscribi. It is a lot of letters and it probably needed to have inputs form more then one human. If someone want join to my effort, then please download http://pcl210-00.fit.vutbr.cz/openmoko/drawletter_0.2_armv4t.ipk (you need gtk+ and glade). The program is simple, just type the letter in editbox and then draw letter in each box, finally save button stores result t Mar 08 15:39:41 o /home/root/handwriting-new.txt (in enscribi format) Mar 08 15:41:21 i am dealing right now only with uppercase, letters Mar 08 15:41:39 Dave: well... I won't tell you :P Mar 08 15:42:11 ;D Mar 08 15:42:25 * mrmoku could not even answer that... because he does not count builds :-) Mar 08 15:42:40 does anyone know where can I find documentation for the /etc/frameworkd.conf configuration? Mar 08 15:42:51 haha :P Mar 08 15:46:48 TAsn: the sample config and source code ;] Mar 08 15:47:00 damn. ;] Mar 08 15:47:15 some specific question? Mar 08 15:47:36 well I'll ask a more specific question then, do you know how can I disable the frameworkd's loading of a scenario file upon loading? Mar 08 15:47:41 *not loading Mar 08 15:47:46 accepting a gsm call Mar 08 15:48:25 you mean... call comes in, gets accepted and frameworkd does not change alsa settings? Mar 08 15:49:16 it does Mar 08 15:49:19 I don't want it to Mar 08 15:49:56 though nvm, I'll just change back after it changes Mar 08 15:50:02 it's better for me this way anyway... Mar 08 15:50:46 TAsn: rules.yaml... it is done by a rule Mar 08 15:51:00 while: CallStatus() Mar 08 15:51:00 filters: Or(HasAttr(status, "outgoing"), HasAttr(status, "active")) Mar 08 15:51:00 actions: Mar 08 15:51:00 - SetScenario(gsmhandset) Mar 08 15:51:03 - OccupyResource(CPU) Mar 08 15:51:25 cool. Mar 08 15:51:26 thanks. Mar 08 15:51:29 ;]] Mar 08 15:51:41 still have some credit for your stylus :D Mar 08 15:51:57 lol. Mar 08 15:52:17 stylus? guitar fingerpick Mar 08 15:53:57 DocScrutinizer: I cannot wrap it around my finger though (guitar fingerpick) Mar 08 15:54:43 duh, why not? they come in any number of sizes Mar 08 15:54:45 anyone know where i can get a good rsync ipkg? Mar 08 15:55:10 but are not flexible enough... Mar 08 15:55:12 for milestone 5.1 Mar 08 15:55:47 hmm, flexible? what for? Mar 08 15:55:55 wrapping around the finger Mar 08 15:56:06 TAsn: did you do some photos of the wrapping? Mar 08 15:56:16 mrmoku, nope ;[ Mar 08 15:56:25 do you have any? Mar 08 15:56:29 wrap a ring around the finger??? Mar 08 15:56:30 no Mar 08 15:56:37 I don't have my shitty camera charged up Mar 08 15:56:50 DocScrutinizer: wrap the stylus around your finger Mar 08 15:57:14 hmmpff Mar 08 15:57:32 the good thing of playing classical guitar is that I don't have problems when using finger on the openmoko screen xD Mar 08 15:57:40 large nails helps Mar 08 15:57:43 ^^ Mar 08 15:58:45 mrmoku: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerpick Mar 08 16:04:06 DocScrutinizer: duhh... did not think about it carefully enough... sure I know those Mar 08 16:04:17 * mrmoku was a guitar player too long time ago :P Mar 08 16:04:55 so how do you want to wrap those around your finger? Mar 08 16:05:17 hmmm... should have one somewhere.... at least I had some once upon a time Mar 08 16:05:27 DocScrutinizer: the stylus or the finger pick? Mar 08 16:05:36 * Dave passes one of his guitars to mrmoku Mar 08 16:06:06 Dave: well... my guitar I know where it is... if you would pass me a finger pick? Mar 08 16:07:41 DocScrutinizer: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stylus_Alternatives#DIY Mar 08 16:07:41 mrmoku: ahh so you talking bout a "rubber pencil" Mar 08 16:08:24 DocScrutinizer: talking about TAsn's DIY stylus Mar 08 16:08:38 yup i c Mar 08 16:09:58 i didn't follow the tasn's stylos topic closely, and had a picture of a diy fingerpick in my mind back when Mar 08 16:10:52 yesterday I was at a musicstore and saw these professional picks near the plektrums Mar 08 16:10:55 sure, I have many picks Mar 08 16:11:00 though I personally don't use them Mar 08 16:11:14 not often, anyway Mar 08 16:11:21 Openmoko Improv? :D Mar 08 16:11:36 * DocScrutinizer doesn't play any instrument except turntable and mixer ;) Mar 08 16:11:45 wholy shit... no icons again :( Mar 08 16:11:51 :D Mar 08 16:11:57 mrmoku: if i'm not builiding shr-testing, only shr-unstable, i don't need to do anything about branches, right? Mar 08 16:12:05 * Dave envisions joerg over there trancing out... Mar 08 16:12:20 ;D Mar 08 16:12:49 dos1: hmmm... you would have to set oe-revision to milestone5.5 Mar 08 16:13:28 mrmoku: shouldn't make update do it? Mar 08 16:13:34 well occasionally I do a session where I operate tape loops ala Eno/Fripp Mar 08 16:14:30 those were the times Mar 08 16:14:31 dos1: make update will break your build server if you don't change stuff... Mar 08 16:14:43 :D Mar 08 16:14:57 dos1: I strongly encourage you to do the change :P Mar 08 16:15:09 mrmoku: but in mail there is only about shr-testing Mar 08 16:15:25 :D Mar 08 16:15:28 ;] Mar 08 16:15:53 haha, I'm trying to imagine Joerg on the turntables... at a party. Mar 08 16:15:58 mrmoku: should i do the same , but only with s/testing/unstable/? ;) Mar 08 16:15:59 :D Mar 08 16:16:07 * mrmoku rereads his mail... Mar 08 16:16:16 anyway, if ou have problems when writing with the keyboard, you should try this one, works weel to write sms: http://www.opkg.org/package_142.html Mar 08 16:16:32 b) rm -rf shr shr-testing/shr shr-unstable/shr Mar 08 16:16:37 I'd like to see it by default on SHR ^^ Mar 08 16:16:45 dos1: see the unstable in there? :P Mar 08 16:17:02 ^^" Mar 08 16:17:10 * dos1 is tired Mar 08 16:17:10 ;> Mar 08 16:17:15 apparently! Mar 08 16:17:19 uhhh.. and a typo... Mar 08 16:17:30 for openembedded testing twice :( Mar 08 16:17:34 What time is it there, dos? 17.00? Mar 08 16:17:41 17:17 Mar 08 16:17:48 Dave: yes, 17:17 Mar 08 16:17:56 he probably spent all afternoon drinking... Mar 08 16:18:02 xD Mar 08 16:18:16 THAT'S why he's tired ¬_¬ Mar 08 16:18:18 dos1: next icon problem... e-wm-menu is empty... and thus no icons again :( Mar 08 16:18:44 HOLY SHIT Mar 08 16:18:53 WHERE DID MY ICONS GO!? Mar 08 16:19:08 larsc: would it be ok to use bugs.openmoko.org for xf86-video-glamo bugs? Mar 08 16:19:09 WHO TOOK MY ICONS!?! Mar 08 16:19:19 mrmoku: e-wm-menu? Mar 08 16:19:28 Dave: your bats took those with them Mar 08 16:19:31 man, why do I bother updating to you guys' latest fucking code :p Mar 08 16:19:38 Joerg, and you took my bats? Mar 08 16:19:44 yup Mar 08 16:19:51 * Dave pictures Joerg to be the Bat Whisperer Mar 08 16:19:57 he calls, and the bats come to him! Mar 08 16:20:06 doing his bidding... Mar 08 16:20:11 alas, taking my icons :( Mar 08 16:20:12 err, they came without any force or pressure Mar 08 16:20:44 dos1: no more /etc/xdg/menus/... empty dir instead Mar 08 16:20:52 lindi-: i guess yes Mar 08 16:21:26 Bah Mar 08 16:21:34 Damn Joerg and his magical powers... Mar 08 16:22:03 Oh, joerg, I cleaned the contacts, powered on, and issue persists. Mar 08 16:22:18 I can confirm the pins are all bright and shiny now, no crud, but still broken :) Mar 08 16:22:36 hmm, strange Mar 08 16:22:41 I think one or more is bent up in the connector and partially completing a connection. Mar 08 16:22:59 maybe I'll talk you thru a series of decent tests later on Mar 08 16:23:06 Sounds good :) Mar 08 16:23:43 not now though, as 17:23 is really about time for a decent meal out in RL Mar 08 16:24:18 Dave: gonna ping you later on Mar 08 16:24:27 Okay! Mar 08 16:24:32 cya Mar 08 16:24:35 What's for dinner? Mar 08 16:24:46 are your bats making it for you? :P Mar 08 16:24:46 hmm, breakfast? Mar 08 16:24:54 Breakfast!? Mar 08 16:24:56 nah Mar 08 16:25:07 they are still asleep Mar 08 16:25:10 :) Mar 08 16:25:22 Well whatever you're having, go enjoy yourself a meal :) Mar 08 16:25:38 tnx :) Mar 08 16:26:33 larsc: is there any way for me to make sure you get email when i report a new bug there? Mar 08 16:26:34 * Dave wanders off to plan a decent brunch Mar 08 16:29:37 larsc: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2255 Mar 08 16:44:24 mrmoku: patches patches patches patches Mar 08 16:44:46 error: patch failed: packages/netbase/netbase_4.21.bb:2 Mar 08 16:44:46 error: patch failed: packages/base-files/base-files/om-gta02/fstab:1 Mar 08 16:44:46 error: patch failed: packages/tangogps/tangogps.inc:6 Mar 08 16:50:28 dos1: yep... but now we can clean them up for unstable :D Mar 08 17:17:50 wooops Mar 08 17:17:56 i accidently deleted a file Mar 08 17:18:14 it's one i checked out via make setup Mar 08 17:18:26 but make update-shr didn't restore it Mar 08 17:18:30 how do i get it back? Mar 08 17:26:49 make setup? Mar 08 17:26:55 ;] Mar 08 17:28:38 anyhow, I'm having a minor issue, for some reason I get "overrun!!! (at least 64.180 ms long)" (a lot of them) when trying to record from gsm and playing to gsm at the same time, recording works great before and doesn't come back to life afterward. any ideas how to solve it? I guess it has something to do with system load, but still... ;\ Mar 08 17:29:19 TAsn: you can record from gsm? Mar 08 17:29:26 yeah Mar 08 17:29:30 and also inject sound Mar 08 17:29:33 TAsn: can you please send me the state file? Mar 08 17:29:47 TAsn: or a patch to some existing state file Mar 08 17:29:50 lindi-, sure. what's your mail? Mar 08 17:29:57 TAsn: timo.lindfors@iki.fi Mar 08 17:30:21 lindi-, but I didn't yet had time to also make the phone work as a phone while doing it Mar 08 17:30:36 i.e, the mic doesn't work, so as the speaker Mar 08 17:30:47 just software rec and software play Mar 08 17:30:54 TAsn: no problem, this is better than nothing Mar 08 17:31:11 lindi-, I bet that with little work you'll be able to get everythign working Mar 08 17:31:28 I actually need it only to record so it's better for me ;] Mar 08 17:33:10 TAsn: seba.dos1@gmail.com too ;) Mar 08 17:33:20 lindi-, sent it. Mar 08 17:33:23 dos1, sec ;] Mar 08 17:33:35 TAsn: also adding it to wiki might be good idea Mar 08 17:33:50 lindi-, sure, sec. Mar 08 17:33:50 ;] Mar 08 17:34:14 TAsn: did you check if calypso can do DTMF decoding? Mar 08 17:34:20 lindi-, no Mar 08 17:34:22 I just did it myself. Mar 08 17:34:37 a bit of code from asterisk did the trick Mar 08 17:34:38 ;] Mar 08 17:35:24 tomboy64: git checkout -- file Mar 08 17:35:40 mhmmm tasty :-D Mar 08 17:35:43 thanky Mar 08 17:36:08 make update-shr won't bring it back, because git leaves your local changes untouched Mar 08 17:36:29 reckoned that much Mar 08 17:36:38 and i find that very comfortable Mar 08 17:36:50 what happens if an update happened to the files i've changed? Mar 08 17:38:09 ooops Mar 08 17:38:13 $ git checkout -- openembedded/packages/navit/navit_svn.bb Mar 08 17:38:15 fatal: Not a git repository Mar 08 17:38:19 -.- Mar 08 17:38:20 bummer Mar 08 17:41:36 lindi-, dos1, is everything fine? Mar 08 17:43:35 lindi-, added to the wiki. Mar 08 17:43:47 tomboy64: git reset --hard Mar 08 17:44:11 dos1, i hope that doesn't reset my other changes? Mar 08 17:44:18 it does Mar 08 17:44:19 :D Mar 08 17:44:25 so try without --hard Mar 08 17:44:25 buahhh Mar 08 17:45:17 dos1, I'm glad. ;] Mar 08 17:45:27 oh, you were talking to tomboy64, hehe. Mar 08 17:45:42 ahh Mar 08 17:45:51 git doesn't follow symlinks Mar 08 17:45:53 --HARDER Mar 08 17:46:28 tomboy64: it will just kill your local changes for *that* file Mar 08 17:46:39 have to change to the directory first though... cd shr Mar 08 17:46:47 -_- Mar 08 17:46:53 * tomboy64 complies and spanks Dave --HARDER Mar 08 17:46:57 :O Mar 08 17:47:08 watch out... I think mrmoku might be jealous ;p Mar 08 17:47:13 mrmoku, yup, i did, but it was part of the openembedded stuff Mar 08 18:06:12 * tomboy64 hates kdelibs Mar 08 18:13:22 tomboy64: hehe... Mar 08 18:13:35 i'm serious! Mar 08 18:13:39 * mrmoku spanks Dave --EVEN-MORE-HARDER Mar 08 18:13:48 me too :-) Mar 08 18:15:13 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186566 Mar 08 18:15:22 larsc: which kernel version are you using with xf86-video-glamo? Mar 08 18:15:55 dos1: do you have a working menu file? Mar 08 18:16:48 mrmoku: now i have working icons on my shr-unstable Mar 08 18:17:01 i haven't upgraded today Mar 08 18:17:33 dos1: hehe... if you would... you wouldn't have icons ;) Mar 08 18:20:06 mrmoku: so which file you want? Mar 08 18:20:22 btw, should I upgrade to shr-testing?? Mar 08 18:20:33 will I be missing anything I have now on my old shr unstable Mar 08 18:20:40 (I haven't upgraded in a month!!!) Mar 08 18:20:48 or should I go straight to unstable? Mar 08 18:22:32 dos1: thanks... took it from testing :P Mar 08 18:22:47 the file missing is /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu Mar 08 18:22:59 TAsn: shr-testing is now exactly, which shr-unstable was few days ago Mar 08 18:23:09 TAsn: and now shr-unstable is really unstable ;) Mar 08 18:23:28 yep and works :-) icons are back :D Mar 08 18:23:28 dos1, so I sholud probably use testing if I use it as my main phone? Mar 08 18:23:31 TAsn: so if you want to have stable whone, upgrade to shr-testing Mar 08 18:23:37 cool, thanks. ;] Mar 08 18:23:41 TAsn: and i think you won't be missing anything Mar 08 18:23:52 dos1, let's hope you are right! Mar 08 18:23:57 now we have to find out why in hell that file is missing... Mar 08 18:24:01 I like my phone. ;] Mar 08 18:24:12 btw.... unstable has new tangogps Mar 08 18:24:25 mrmoku: in which package it should be placed? Mar 08 18:24:27 cool Mar 08 18:24:48 lets tango Mar 08 18:25:08 dos1: well... there is e-wm-menu... and it is empty Mar 08 18:25:16 * mrmoku thinks that's the problem Mar 08 18:25:27 * mrmoku checks build logs now Mar 08 18:25:28 dos1, does the wsod bug when rotating exist in testing? Mar 08 18:25:42 TAsn: i think no Mar 08 18:25:47 let's hope ;] Mar 08 18:26:21 mrmoku: i don't have e-wm-menu Mar 08 18:26:27 and i haven't "opkg update" today Mar 08 18:26:31 so it is something new Mar 08 18:28:50 dos1: can you check which package contains /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu? Mar 08 18:29:06 mrmoku: how? Mar 08 18:29:41 ok, now i know Mar 08 18:29:59 mrmoku: nothing special :P Mar 08 18:29:59 root@om-gta02:~# opkg search /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu Mar 08 18:29:59 e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr39408-r3 - /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu Mar 08 18:30:55 is shr-unstable currently broken? Mar 08 18:31:17 Azog: there is no icons :x Mar 08 18:31:41 * von_fritz boots unstable in uSD :) Mar 08 18:31:52 icons weren't the day before yesterday, were yesterday and aren't today :D Mar 08 18:31:53 hm, then quite unusable without computer Mar 08 18:32:11 i think i wait until they are back again Mar 08 18:32:20 Azog: it's easy to fix Mar 08 18:32:47 install e-wm-utils? Mar 08 18:32:51 s/fix/fix by youself/ Mar 08 18:32:51 dos1 meant: Azog: it's easy to fix by youself Mar 08 18:33:00 Azog: no, that was fix for yesterday Mar 08 18:33:07 *g* Mar 08 18:33:21 now you must add /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu file Mar 08 18:33:30 as it's missing :x Mar 08 18:34:07 ok, where can i get it? Mar 08 18:35:29 Azog: here: http://pastebin.com/f2fc5721c Mar 08 18:36:09 dos1: thanks Mar 08 18:36:33 bitbake is still running... i can tell if everything is working later Mar 08 18:36:52 hmm... CPU usage goes up, whenever icons are visible :-) Mar 08 18:36:58 without icons CPU usage is low Mar 08 18:37:24 lindi-: not sure, but an rather old one. i'll update soon and then try again and see if i can reproduce your problem Mar 08 18:38:51 larsc: i can try older ones too if it that helps Mar 08 18:40:23 hmm... the file is in the image (see http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090308-om-gta02-testlab/files-in-image.txt) Mar 08 18:40:36 so it's just the upgrade that did now work correctly... Mar 08 18:40:58 Upgrading e-wm on root from 0.16.999.050+svnr39408-r3 to 0.16.999.050+svnr39408-r4... Mar 08 18:41:07 and Mar 08 18:41:15 Installing e-wm-menu (0.16.999.050+svnr39408-r4) to root... Mar 08 18:41:48 * von_fritz has upgradet an icons are gone :( Mar 08 18:42:18 von_fritz: just one minute... I will put the menu file somewhere.... Mar 08 18:43:26 * von_fritz wait's Mar 08 18:43:37 von_fritz: cd /etc/xdg/menus; wget build.shr-project.org/applications.menu Mar 08 18:43:44 after that restart x (or reboot) Mar 08 18:43:49 and icons should be back Mar 08 18:44:10 install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/applications.menu ${D}/${sysconfdir}/xdg/menus/ Mar 08 18:44:26 but i can't see where e-wm-menu is specified... Mar 08 18:44:54 dos1: it's ${PN}-menu ... Mar 08 18:44:55 oh, i have r3 bb file Mar 08 18:45:26 Collected errors: Package bluez4 wants to install file /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf Mar 08 18:45:33 lindi-: well if you have some time you could try to revert the recent changes to the glamo framebuffer driver and if it changes anything. Mar 08 18:45:48 well need to remove bluez utils Mar 08 18:46:57 * mrmoku wonders what he could (should) break next ;P Mar 08 18:47:35