**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 11 02:59:57 2009 Mar 11 03:07:23 Hello, I am making a program that sets the sound state to gsmhandset.state. When the program is done what settings should I switch back to? Should I restore the stereoout.state? Mar 11 05:15:38 jbick: IMO store the current settings before and restore them after Mar 11 05:22:19 pabs3: is there a way to see what the current settings are? Mar 11 05:22:42 IIRC alsactl -f foo.state store Mar 11 06:45:41 |Marco|: The calypso supports only 4 channels, that's why the 5th always fails. Mar 11 06:46:54 |Marco|: if you describe your problem in more detail, and especially provide frameworkd log, i'd be able to say more. Mar 11 07:44:35 mrmoku`: some of our patches don't apply anyway Mar 11 07:50:21 spaetz_: yep... I know :-) Mar 11 07:50:37 morning, BTW :-) Mar 11 07:50:47 we have to start get upstream what belongs upsteam and drop what has to be dropped :-) Mar 11 07:50:47 eg the 0002-tangogps Mar 11 07:50:51 morning Mar 11 07:50:55 but also quite many fastboot patches Mar 11 07:51:47 yeah... tangogps is on 0.9.6 in unstable... patch was for 0.9.5 Mar 11 07:52:03 and part of the fastboot stuff is also in milestone5.5 Mar 11 07:52:09 still the patch shouldn't fail :-) Mar 11 07:52:25 one issue is that we bumpr PR to 4 and it is 4 upstream now Mar 11 07:52:25 why should it not? Mar 11 07:52:50 the 0.9.5 files are still the same, so the patch should still apply Mar 11 07:53:09 independent from that, we should drop the patches if we don't need them anymore, agreed Mar 11 07:55:04 I think the problem is that the patch touches tangogps.inc... which got changed upstream Mar 11 07:55:59 * mrmoku` has 5 minutes to arrive in office now Mar 11 07:56:03 have to run... cu Mar 11 07:56:08 bye Mar 11 08:58:19 wpwrak: Hey Werner :) Nice day, isn't it? Mar 11 09:00:06 * mrmoku` thinks that depends on the location one is right now ;) Mar 11 09:00:15 +where Mar 11 09:02:49 * PaulFert` thinks it depends on individual's perception of that location Mar 11 09:02:51 PaulFert`: in fact pretty ugly. rainy and cloudy. taipei hasn't been nice for the last week or so :( Mar 11 09:03:09 PaulFert`: see :P Mar 11 09:03:27 PaulFert`: but I'll be back in blissful Buenos Aires in about one week :) Mar 11 09:03:39 wpwrak: Nice plan :) Mar 11 09:05:36 wpwrak: Am i right in guessing that Atheros became unresponsive to the requests from the most famous free smartphone project? Mar 11 09:06:14 PaulFert`: well, their responsiveness level has always been a bit uneven ... Mar 11 09:08:37 wpwrak: To an outsider it looks like half of you messages to them are lost, quarter is misunderstood and the remaining part is put in a long queue. Mar 11 09:10:31 PaulFert`: oh, they answer some just fine, provided the answer doesn't help us :) Mar 11 09:10:37 * PaulFert` was all excited to hear about ATI/AMD plans to open stuff 2 years ago. Now it's known that it's still not working right. /me was excited to know about Atheros's plans to open stuff a year ago. And now we see this kind of attitude to one of the most known free software project... Mar 11 09:12:10 wpwrak: hehe Mar 11 09:12:25 Obviously they know what we want: a stable wifi operation. They can guess themselves whether their answer helps us or not. Mar 11 09:13:50 PaulFert`: the problem seems we are using a EOL chip Mar 11 09:14:44 moo btw Mar 11 09:14:45 wpwrak: btw, i sometimes can use a D-link AP (forgot the model), which is giving me Authentication timed out every time i try to use WPA (but the association seems to be fine). This same freerunner works with other APs and my laptop works with that D-link AP just fine. Do you want me to gather some debug info next time i'll be near it? Mar 11 09:15:15 DocScrutinizer: EOL again? shit :-/ Mar 11 09:15:35 aiui Mar 11 09:16:56 DocScrutinizer: *oink* Mar 11 09:17:31 PaulFert`: hmm, odd combination. is does wpa_supplicant keep on trying ? Mar 11 09:18:22 wpwrak: It does. Searches, finds the network, associates, authentication time out, tries again. Mar 11 09:19:22 PaulFert`: I think i can reproduce this one. still mystified about what exactly is going on, though. Mar 11 09:21:05 wpwrak: maxperf doesn't help a bit in my case. So, if you think i can try to provide you with more info, tell me in advance, so i'll compile the kernel, install the stuff needed or smth. And i'll be near that AP probably in 2-3 weeks time. BTW, can traces from another wlan card in monitor mode help? Mar 11 09:22:30 probably they won't hurt to make sure we don't miss any packet Mar 11 09:23:09 in local debug/pcap that is Mar 11 09:23:35 wpwrak: how's TPE? Mar 11 09:28:27 morning Mar 11 09:53:03 PaulFert`: do things improve if you cycle the ar6000 driver and restart wpa_supplicant ? Mar 11 09:53:27 DocScrutinizer: busy, as usual. and the weather is cool and rainy since the end of last week :-( Mar 11 09:55:04 wpwrak: i didn't try, i think. Just turned on wifi, started wpa_supplicant, watched unsuccessfull attempts, restarted only wpa_supplicant, watched again, gave up. I tried it 2 times, no succussful attempt ever. Mar 11 09:55:23 PaulFert`: hmm, sounds nasty :-( Mar 11 09:56:35 PaulFert`: let's look into this in ~2 weeks. won't have time for it while in TPE, and then I'll be traveling for 2 days and lethally jet-lagged for some more Mar 11 09:58:14 wpwrak: The first attempt was like 2 months ago, i tried to connect several times, but thought i was doing something wrong and gave up. Then i successfully used other APs and a week ago went to my "sister" again where the nasty AP is. That was my last try with it. I don't know when i go to her the next time, but i'll take my laptop and be online then in case i'll be able to provide any valuable info. Mar 11 09:58:20 PaulFert`: airodump might be handy to check OTA communication Mar 11 09:59:39 DocScrutinizer: i've aircrack-ng installed on laptop, do you think its airodump-ng is ok? Probably i need so supply some options to save all the packets, not only those containing IVs. Mar 11 10:00:11 yup Mar 11 10:00:30 DocScrutinizer: otoh Werner clearly has access to OTA dumps for his nasty cases as well, and we see it doesn't help much without vendor support. :-/ Mar 11 10:02:48 The bad thing is that in case we'll be forced to use plan B (special daemon restarting the card when something inappropriate happens), it'll still have problems with some APs (like Mickey's e.g.). Mar 11 10:06:28 wpwrak: btw, looks like that Samsung's driver is a stinky pile of crap, you're a courageous man, GTA03's end-users will be happy to make all those useless "photos" :) But really, i sympathize, trapped in TPE, fixing samsung's code, that can't be easy. Mar 11 10:09:18 PaulFert`: thanks :) the driver is actually nicer than the atheros code. you could almost say it's nice :) Mar 11 10:12:30 So it probably has a potential to become nice and even hit mainline? Heh, given how important that functionality is, i'd say it's a good news ;) Mar 11 10:12:52 PaulFert`: wpwrak: there's some issues very special to a certain pair of wlan chipsets sometimes Mar 11 10:13:07 see: DSL WLAN Modem 200: WPA-verschlüsselte Verbindungen nicht möglich Mar 11 10:13:18 Probleme bei der IPSec-Einwahl und Interoperabilität mit Broadcom-WLAN-Chipsätzen Mar 11 10:13:32 http://www.zyxel.de/web/faq.php?x=&mod_id=2&root=119&id=276 Mar 11 10:13:48 <|Leto|> build 200903111111: started Mar 11 10:13:50 Speaking about cryptic letters in chinese :p Mar 11 10:14:00 <|Leto|> gonna try that again in 2 years, 8 month :-D Mar 11 10:15:31 |Leto|: :D Mar 11 10:16:20 <|Leto|> tsss Mar 11 10:16:22 |Leto|: I had a party at 20.02.2002 20:02 :D Mar 11 10:16:23 <|Leto|> http://dpaste.com/12550/ Mar 11 10:16:50 <|Leto|> hehehe Mar 11 10:16:54 <|Leto|> mhmm Mar 11 10:16:59 invited 20 people, 2 of them actually came to the party ;) Mar 11 10:17:16 <|Leto|> woulda been more fun if you invited 200 ;) Mar 11 10:17:24 PaulFert`: (cam) yeah, it's definitely something that should go mainline. would be a waste if it didn't Mar 11 10:18:02 <|Leto|> DocScrutinizer, btw, you're aware of "sissie", the three movies? Mar 11 10:18:19 hmm? Mar 11 10:18:20 DocScrutinizer: What's the link between WPA and IPSec? What is this page about at all? That with some cards wpa didn't work, but firmware upgrade helps it? Mar 11 10:18:36 yup Mar 11 10:19:01 <|Leto|> DocScrutinizer, the best party i ever had was watching the 3 movies in one evening - with lots of vodka in store Mar 11 10:19:08 that there are issues particular to a certain pairing of chipsets Mar 11 10:19:34 <|Leto|> DocScrutinizer, each one had to choose either "franz" or "sissy" - and drink a shot if that word was spoken Mar 11 10:19:36 |Leto|: are you russian? Mar 11 10:19:48 <|Leto|> on "your majesty" everyone had to drink a shot Mar 11 10:19:56 <|Leto|> PaulFert`, nope Mar 11 10:20:14 |Leto|: why your nick translates to russian as "summer" then? ;) Mar 11 10:20:52 <|Leto|> oh, it does? Mar 11 10:20:58 <|Leto|> actually it's my replacement nick Mar 11 10:21:09 |Leto|: "leto" means "summer" Mar 11 10:21:51 :) Mar 11 10:22:05 and tomboy? in russian? ;) Mar 11 10:22:57 DocScrutinizer: but the page looks too suspicious to be trusted. Why does it mention WPA in the title but IPSec in the problem description? Mar 11 10:23:01 ;) Mar 11 10:24:11 tomboy64: sounds like some NES (there was a clone called Dendy, extremely popular in the beginning of 90s) game. Mar 11 10:24:36 hah Mar 11 10:24:52 http://dpaste.com/12550/ Mar 11 10:24:58 any idea what to do bout that? Mar 11 10:25:22 tomboy64: install autoconf2.13 Mar 11 10:25:52 sys-devel/autoconf Mar 11 10:25:54 Available versions: Mar 11 10:25:56 (2.1) 2.13 Mar 11 10:26:22 tomboy64: so, 2.1 installed but 2.13 available _and_ required by Fennec. To me it looks like that ;) Mar 11 10:26:35 no Mar 11 10:26:44 2.13 installed in the slot of 2.1 Mar 11 10:27:01 Ah, then make a symlink, name it autoconf2.13 Mar 11 10:29:09 PaulFert`: Zyxel isn't very clear neither in it's manuals nor any other communications. Mar 11 10:30:28 DocScrutinizer: And i remember how they sold several different dialup modems calling all of them Omni (despite the fact that one was a windows-only softmodem and the other a semi-decent external USB model). Mar 11 10:30:40 oooooph Mar 11 10:30:50 PaulFert`, this i call *SLOPPY* Mar 11 10:31:03 PaulFert`: the issue was a lot of laptops with broadcom chipset weren't able to register at widespread Arcor-DSL WLAN-Modem 200 (=zyxel p660) Mar 11 10:31:06 it's actually looking for autoconf2.13 Mar 11 10:31:14 and the file is called autoconf-2.13 :-O Mar 11 10:31:18 pah'! Mar 11 10:32:15 PaulFert`: on WPA only that is. WEP worked Mar 11 10:32:38 and it was specific to Broadcom chipsets Mar 11 10:32:46 DocScrutinizer: Ok, that sounds strange. OTOH that might have been an issue with some windows broadcom drivers violating something. Mar 11 10:32:58 nope Mar 11 10:34:01 tomboy64: when i last compiled firefox by hand from the sources, i wasn't happy with the build system too :) Mar 11 10:34:03 seems it wasn't dependent of the driver for broadcom. And also broadcom chip had that issue ONLY with the particular chip used in Zyxel for AP Mar 11 10:36:14 My point just is: there are nasty hw-issues even with high layer functions like WPA sometimes. and they may be dependent on both sides being a particualr incompatible hw Mar 11 10:38:29 PaulFert`, why can't they just adhere to *standards*? Mar 11 10:38:54 but no, every big software project has to re-invent the wheel Mar 11 10:39:00 * tomboy64 swears Mar 11 10:39:02 * tomboy64 rants Mar 11 10:39:07 * tomboy64 goes get some tea Mar 11 10:43:29 DocScrutinizer: i got it. Just my (sometimes inappropriate) habit to question everything i hear. Mar 11 10:45:07 got a coooool mail from Uwe pointing me to this: https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111 Mar 11 10:45:34 A ig "Thank You" to Uwe! Mar 11 10:45:40 Big Mar 11 10:47:38 DocScrutinizer: Yay Mar 11 10:47:38 Wow, cool cable :) Mar 11 11:21:07 Is that the photo taken by gta03's camera? ;) Mar 11 11:30:34 PaulFert`: huh? Mar 11 11:30:52 * DocScrutinizer lost context Mar 11 11:31:09 DocScrutinizer: the photo of TPE admin fixing lights that Werner posted to the kernel ML. Mar 11 11:31:19 ahh Mar 11 11:31:21 * PaulFert` knows it sounds extra-freak :) Mar 11 11:37:01 to me it seems it *looks* extra-freaky Mar 11 11:50:35 wpwrak: what became of the idea of "public hw-development"? Mar 11 11:53:50 anybody for a German Sammelbestellung? https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111 Mar 11 12:28:36 * PaulFert` wonders what that guy wants gta03 schematics for... Mar 11 12:29:26 PaulFert`: hehe Mar 11 12:30:12 DocScrutinizer: but really, for high-level development gta02 is more than enough :) I doubt he wants to do any gta03-specific kernel work (his mailagent is Outlook 12 or smth like that ;) ). Mar 11 12:30:30 probably he seen all those contributions of OM staff to 3d7k kernel stack, and thought he wants to join in Mar 11 12:31:11 oh (MUA) then... :-/ Mar 11 12:52:22 DocScrutinizer: what is this cable good for? Mar 11 12:52:38 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#How_to_make_a_USB_cable_for_powering_attached_USB_devices_and_charging_the_Neo_while_in_host_mode_.28aka_Y-Cable.29 Mar 11 12:53:22 sakkara: basically it's all in the URL already ;-) Mar 11 12:53:38 yeah^^ Mar 11 12:53:53 sounds nice but hacky Mar 11 12:54:00 sure it is Mar 11 12:55:16 but even hardcore hackers fail to place that magical 47k R to IDpin, without such a 5pole cable ;) Mar 11 12:56:15 ok, you probably could use the plain miniB-jack from digikey. but still it's a hell to contact it Mar 11 12:57:23 I'm actually collecting orders. If anybody is interested: mail with number of pcs to joerg@openmoko.org Mar 11 12:58:13 DocScrutinizer: i live in austria, how would we do? Mar 11 13:00:12 hmmm, first send me a mail with statement about number of pcs. Then we'll see how to proceed. Either transfer money to me and I just send out the envelope, or sth more sophisticated. No idea yet Mar 11 13:00:35 paypal? Mar 11 13:00:46 eeew Mar 11 13:00:58 no paypal :-/ Mar 11 13:02:42 :) Mar 11 13:03:24 DocScrutinizer, you have any idea how to tell the hg-fetcher not to try for mirror-fetching? Mar 11 13:03:30 in a bb-file Mar 11 13:03:32 DocScrutinizer: would it make sense if you would order it, and send it to me? or better when i order myself? Mar 11 13:04:09 sakkara: I'm collecting orders to bundle ATM Mar 11 13:04:55 getting packages from US isn't exactly fun with VAT and everything. Mar 11 13:05:04 so maybe we can simplify this Mar 11 13:05:58 yeah, so you would order some and then send me one in a letter something Mar 11 13:06:06 yup Mar 11 13:06:19 if you want 1 I'll send one ;) Mar 11 13:06:26 ok, would make sense Mar 11 13:07:25 I might even throw in a 100uF C and 2k2 R for buzzfix, for free ;D Mar 11 13:07:38 and where you get the other parts from? Mar 11 13:07:44 oh, that would be nice :D Mar 11 13:08:44 (other parts) quite standard. Get them from any electronics store Mar 11 13:09:11 heyho Mar 11 13:09:58 rly? female usb thingie from electronics store? Mar 11 13:10:28 what for do you need a femal USB-A type? Mar 11 13:11:00 anyway there are cables out there with female Atype one end you can easily canibalize Mar 11 13:11:18 one A for the usb device and one mini B for fr-charger Mar 11 13:12:53 sakkara: whatever you like to have there. Device end an A-type female might be handy, though you also could attach the B-type cable for attaching device directly Mar 11 13:13:19 mini-b for plugging in FR wallchager might be a *little* difficult Mar 11 13:13:43 you may get those for PCB mounting nevertheless Mar 11 13:14:07 http://om.quatrox.org/om/ Mar 11 13:14:27 like the last pic Mar 11 13:15:54 looks quite resonable, yes Mar 11 13:18:32 DocScrutinizer: i'll think about that and tell you if i want a cable :) Mar 11 13:18:40 maybe I'll create some improved schematics, plus a prototype on proto-PCB, to create a multipurpose breakout you could as well attach a standard 5V barrel jack of usual powersupplies, and switch between hostmode and device mode Mar 11 13:18:57 sakkara: np Mar 11 13:26:01 DocScrutinizer: have you actually tried to switch to fr-powered hostmode with both internal and external resistors? Mar 11 13:27:31 iirc Andy did, or at least expectations are it won't hurt as much as those 15k are missing all together Mar 11 13:28:55 So probably with the Y cable it will work even without external power-supply? Mar 11 13:29:06 yup Mar 11 13:30:12 PaulFert`: yup, the photo was taken with a gta03 Mar 11 13:30:56 Cool. I should finally solder one. I lack only some heat shrink tubing to make it more neat (given i'm going to use a receptable for pcb mounting). Mar 11 13:32:41 wpwrak: (i know it's not that appropriate to ask, but given you've answered the previous question) Is it the maximum resolution (i understand that the quality of small cams highly depends on light conditions etc, but nevertheless)? Mar 11 13:33:41 I think we all should agree now not to post this information on community to avoid another useless thread with rants about cam quality! Mar 11 13:33:49 PaulFert`: (pcb mounting) eeew! look: http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=923232 Mar 11 13:34:34 DocScrutinizer: i want to be able to plug mini-usb-b (read FR wallcharger) Mar 11 13:34:52 ahh for the mini-b Mar 11 13:35:20 DocScrutinizer: and to be honest, i'm very tolerant to any ugliness in the visual appeareance of my stuff. Mar 11 13:35:31 I'd suggest to massively rework a cheap hub Mar 11 13:35:44 I know :) Mar 11 13:36:27 you could simply plug in OM-wallcharger to very common upstream miniB receptacle Mar 11 13:36:51 will fit w/o any mods Mar 11 13:37:10 attach the 5pole-miniB-cable Mar 11 13:37:20 some R. Done Mar 11 13:38:59 you could separate one of the dowstream ports to yield a Atype receptacle to go directly to 5pole-cable Mar 11 13:39:29 and a 2-pole switch to hook hub upstream port to this instead Mar 11 13:40:59 or, even better, connect upstream miniB to this trail permanently, to use it with FR in device mode Mar 11 13:42:46 I'll come ip with a nice DIY project some of the next days ;-) Mar 11 13:42:57 s/ ip/ up/ Mar 11 13:42:57 DocScrutinizer meant: I'll come up with a nice DIY project some of the next days ;-) Mar 11 13:43:02 DocScrutinizer: the problem is: i almost don't need any of the functionality it gives. :) Mar 11 13:43:39 It gives you functionality of a decent housing at least ;D Mar 11 13:44:56 plus miniB receptacle out of the box, neatly fitting inside this housing Mar 11 13:45:42 No, i almost never need to hoop up anything to my freerunner :) Mar 11 13:46:34 so no need for any y-cable at all then Mar 11 13:47:26 neither with miniUSB-B receptacle in shrinktube nor in a decent housing Mar 11 13:49:20 anyway, RL now Mar 11 13:49:22 bbl Mar 11 13:58:15 PaulFert`: naw, the camera should be able to do 1600x1200. just the driver doesn't know how. Mar 11 14:18:04 juri! Mar 11 14:18:30 PaulFert`: how's about that: http://www.partsdata.de/USB_Mini-B-Verlaengerung_Kabel_1m_CU-XB05-10.html, pus that: http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=923232, plus a little shrinktube and 2pcs 15k ? Mar 11 14:20:28 the genuine Y-Cable ;-)) Mar 11 14:21:17 :D Mar 11 14:21:30 Dave! Mar 11 14:23:03 Dave: !! Mar 11 14:23:20 is anyone else seeing a completely blank Illume screen when running shr-unstable? Mar 11 14:23:27 Dave: !! :) Mar 11 14:23:39 * bgat doesn't know who Dave is, but when in Rome... :) Mar 11 14:23:49 bgat: did you opkg update? Mar 11 14:23:50 Aaaaaaaah Mar 11 14:23:54 Dave !!! Mar 11 14:23:59 :D Mar 11 14:24:04 * Dave gets excited Mar 11 14:24:06 :) Mar 11 14:24:06 \o/ Mar 11 14:24:11 Dave: hows my android keyboard? Mar 11 14:24:16 you finished? Mar 11 14:24:16 Done? Mar 11 14:24:26 sweet! Mar 11 14:24:55 * Dave slaps mrmoku around a bit with a large spaetz Mar 11 14:25:03 toggles_w: I did an opkg update; opkg upgrade about 12 hours ago. when you asked just now, I started anotther one and it looks like it's uploading a bunch of new stuff. Mar 11 14:25:19 so I guess my situation is a known-and-corrected problem, eh? nice! Mar 11 14:25:51 bgat: someone else had the same issue after doing that yesterday, sorry, can't tell you if it's fixed, just thet it's "known", sorry.. Mar 11 14:26:20 well, for two days opkg upgrade didn't do anything. so at least something will have changed. hopefully for the better. Mar 11 14:27:52 I thought Dave was fixing Qt Extended for me? No? Mar 11 14:28:02 * Dave hides Mar 11 14:28:05 Dave! Get to work! Mar 11 14:28:33 there is no piece of large spaetz Mar 11 14:28:45 I'm all slim and small :) Mar 11 14:29:40 * toggles_w hands spaetz a sandwich Mar 11 14:29:42 eat! Mar 11 14:31:28 toggles_w: anyone know what the root cause of the problem is, even? Mar 11 14:31:52 bgat: sorry, no idea, i just saw the issue pop up yesterday Mar 11 14:32:15 well then Mar 11 14:32:24 * Dave throws mrmoku at spaetz Mar 11 14:32:27 :D Mar 11 14:32:36 dont' worry though, he's semi-transparent! Mar 11 14:32:52 (for whatever that will help you) Muwahhhahahahahahaha >:D Mar 11 14:34:05 w00t! Illume is back now. Mar 11 14:34:22 bgat: \o/ Mar 11 14:35:00 wow, someone's been busy with artwork lately... Mar 11 14:35:52 bgat: scap? Mar 11 14:36:44 not sure what you mean by "scap", but the icons and images look really nice with shr-unstable Mar 11 14:37:17 Screen CApture Mar 11 14:37:23 s/he means scap.linuxtogo.org Mar 11 14:37:23 aah Mar 11 14:37:50 it'll have to wait, I just got an NMI for a meeting... :( Mar 11 14:38:00 non-maskable interrupt Mar 11 14:39:15 * bgat is away: meeting Mar 11 14:39:19 (grrr) Mar 11 14:41:02 rawr Mar 11 14:41:11 pabs :) Mar 11 14:48:53 wots new Dave ? Mar 11 15:00:49 how can i switch auto-suspend permanently off in shr? Mar 11 15:00:53 i find it annoying Mar 11 15:01:05 shr-settings -> power Mar 11 15:01:32 Azog, permanently Mar 11 15:01:57 imo if that's not permanently it's a bug Mar 11 15:03:53 -.- Mar 11 15:03:58 mwester, ? Mar 11 15:04:23 * mwester looks around Mar 11 15:11:03 It's supposed to be permanent until reboot Mar 11 15:11:27 It's permanent if you set the suspend timeout to -1 Mar 11 15:11:35 as that gets saved by frameworkd Mar 11 15:12:00 tomboy64: HTH Mar 11 15:12:05 it would be nice, if that is permanent, too Mar 11 15:12:22 what, the disable suspend slider? Mar 11 15:12:38 yes Mar 11 15:12:44 there is no way that of parsing configs at startup, currently... Mar 11 15:12:51 huh? Mar 11 15:13:10 you're bs'ing me there, right? Mar 11 15:13:14 shr-settings doesn't get started on startup, so there is no way it can do something Mar 11 15:13:23 hmmm Mar 11 15:13:51 what's shr-settings written in? python? Mar 11 15:14:11 it would need to relay on things like frameworkd/ophonekitd to set values on startup, or we would need to introduce some config parsing app that sets them accoringly on bootup Mar 11 15:14:15 python Mar 11 15:14:21 s/relay/rely/ Mar 11 15:14:22 hoe is het? Mar 11 15:15:06 i think that would be appropriate Mar 11 15:15:24 after all i'd consider that essential Mar 11 15:15:32 to have setting be made permanent Mar 11 15:16:24 currently, for me it's a feature to have settings back to default on boot, that way I can't permanently screw stuff :) Mar 11 15:16:46 tsss Mar 11 15:18:07 so spaetz... who exactly is responsible for the transparency stuff? -_- Mar 11 15:26:42 when RequestResource "CPU", dbus reports error: The name org.freesmartphone.ousaged was not provided by any .service files Mar 11 15:27:05 can anybody explain this? Mar 11 15:27:31 mqy, not implemented yet? Mar 11 15:30:26 tomboy64, spaetz told me several weeks ago: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy GPS enabled Mar 11 15:30:48 :) Mar 11 15:30:52 no idea then Mar 11 15:30:57 I see others use ousaged by google.. Mar 11 15:31:07 :) Mar 11 15:32:20 `mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.RequestResource CPU` does not report error, so I get confused Mar 11 15:33:44 mqy: the moment mdbus exits you are giving up the resource? Mar 11 15:35:47 lindi-, I don't realize that, I just want to disable suspend when run some program Mar 11 15:36:43 I also see this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ompower, but no luck Mar 11 15:38:07 and this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2142298 Mar 11 15:56:13 mqy: RequestResource requests the resource for the lifetime of the dbus client... Mar 11 15:56:21 you can't request a resource with mdbus Mar 11 15:56:29 because it immediately exits Mar 11 15:56:35 and the resource gets released Mar 11 15:58:51 mqy: alternatively you can temporarliy just set the resource policy to enabled Mar 11 16:01:15 thanks :) Mar 11 16:19:03 mrmoku :O Mar 11 16:24:46 hi, how can i run application on my laptop with displaying it on Freeruners display? I tried it according to wiki, but there is something wrong and i do not know how to figure out what is wrong. Mar 11 16:24:53 so i had logged on freeruner "ssh root@192.168.0.202", runned "xhost +" on it, and then i tried "DISPLAY=192.168.0.202:0 tangogps" on my desktop, but i was not able to connect on X Server (the message was something like there is no display) Mar 11 16:35:44 Ainulindale: ping Mar 11 16:40:51 but mqy was not resquesting a resource with above line, he was setting ResourcePloicy Mar 11 16:41:06 and that lives beyond the lifetime of the dbus session Mar 11 16:41:13 DaveMoko: transparency is dos1 Mar 11 16:42:47 ahh, ignore me just say the RequestResource call a few lines later Mar 11 16:42:53 just saw.. Mar 11 16:48:40 alphaone: pong Mar 11 16:50:31 DBusGProxy *proxy = dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name( connection, Mar 11 16:50:32 "org.freesmartphone.frameworkd", "/org/freesmartphone/Device/IdleNotifier/0", "org.freesmartphone.Device.IdleNotifier") Mar 11 16:50:46 what's the correct parameters? Mar 11 16:51:00 Ainulindale: I'm currently filling out the GSoC application for fso-shr and was wondering what name/website, etc we should provide Mar 11 16:51:15 I just saw this: http://openmoko.opendevice.org/svn/trunk/shr-settings/shr_settings_modules/shr_device_timeouts.py Mar 11 16:51:39 alphaone: well that's up to you mostly, can you give both? Mar 11 16:51:57 Ainulindale: Not sure, there is just one field. Mar 11 16:52:14 I don't know if it will screw up their links Mar 11 16:52:19 But I'll try :-) Mar 11 16:52:34 ok ! Mar 11 17:03:03 how usable/broken is shr-unstable from today? Mar 11 17:04:05 * eolson gets out the magic eight ball (jk, i have no clue) Mar 11 17:45:30 spaetz_: Hey :) Can you tell me who is supposed to maintain openmoko-messages now? Mar 11 17:45:43 spaetz_: "fix spaces and tabs mixture" ;) Mar 11 17:46:28 dos1: Do you by any chance know that? Mar 11 17:46:32 i had to commit that mixture as that was only way i found to get this patch working ;) Mar 11 17:46:46 PaulFert`: openmoko-messages2 or openmoko-messages3? Mar 11 17:47:05 dos1: i think the latest as it's SHR-unstable Mar 11 17:47:34 openmoko-messages2 is from 2007.2, openmoko-messages3 is wrapper for libframeworkd-phonegui-* used in SHR Mar 11 17:47:35 dos1: the user report segfault on trying to compose any message and has a backtrace. Mar 11 17:47:46 dos1: yes, http://pastebin.ca/1358335 Mar 11 17:47:53 PaulFert`: so i think you are talking about libframeworkd-phonegui-efl Mar 11 17:47:58 Yes Mar 11 17:48:25 PaulFert`: and that segfault is known and mrmoku told anyone on maillist that shr-unstable has this bug... Mar 11 17:48:34 PaulFert`: it's behaviour of new EFLSRC_REV Mar 11 17:48:38 dos1: i wouldn't have bothered you with the 2007 stuff :) Mar 11 17:48:49 PaulFert`: and we tried to debug it many times before... Mar 11 17:49:16 so i don't think backtrace is helpfull :) now we are waiting for fix :D Mar 11 17:49:55 dos1: i see. Do you think raster will fix it? ;) Mar 11 17:50:43 PaulFert`: if that is elementary problem i think yes... we only have to know, what is causing that segfault Mar 11 17:51:37 dos1: have anyone tried to look at the full backtrace along with the sources? Or are they mad complex? Mar 11 17:52:45 i will play with layout on messages screen (backtrace says something about scroller...) but it would be only workaround... Mar 11 17:52:59 PaulFert`: ask mrmoku`, he tried to debug it last time Mar 11 17:54:01 dos1: ok, thanks :) Mar 11 17:57:26 about the bug with messages app... I used it ysterday night and looks like it crashes when using the Answer button, it doesn't crash when you write a New message as far as I remember Mar 11 17:57:44 have to go now, maybe I'm wrong, I may try it later Mar 11 17:58:33 Sharwin_F: the user says it crashes in any case Mar 11 17:59:24 PaulFert`, I was able to send an sms yesterday night when I wrote a new message Mar 11 17:59:32 but crashed when sending after using Answer option Mar 11 18:01:02 DOS1 Mar 11 18:01:07 YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS! Mar 11 18:01:10 hmm opkg upgraded now (lots of E packages were upgraded, and shr-settings too) and I can't use shr-settings Mar 11 18:01:36 when I press any button (profiles, power, etc.) it doesn't do anything Mar 11 18:02:22 Sharwin_F: maybe you have broken python-elementary Mar 11 18:02:23 * Sharwin_F will return in an hour and a half to help Dave blame people Mar 11 18:02:30 dos1, I'll try to reflash Mar 11 18:02:35 bye Mar 11 18:02:36 :D Mar 11 18:02:40 * mrmoku` is not convinced it is an upstream bug :P Mar 11 18:02:40 Excellent! Mar 11 18:05:52 mrmoku`: have you tried to see the full backtrace along with the code btw? Mar 11 18:06:13 * bgat is back Mar 11 18:06:29 mrmoku`: or tried to reproduce it with some small test app? Mar 11 18:07:18 oh great Mar 11 18:07:47 mrmoku`: can you rebuild xserver-kdrive-glamo in unstable? Mar 11 18:13:20 what a mess Mar 11 18:13:32 neither midori nor fennec build over here Mar 11 18:14:20 PaulFert`, hey Mar 11 18:14:27 PaulFert`, your employer makes UPSes? right? Mar 11 18:14:30 dos1: again? Mar 11 18:14:38 Sargun: Hey :) Mar 11 18:14:46 Sargun: kind of, yes :) Mar 11 18:14:51 mrmoku`: hmm... if there is r3.1, then no Mar 11 18:14:53 PaulFert`: small standalone app is one of the things I had in mind... Mar 11 18:14:55 Sargun: you've memory like an elephant :) Mar 11 18:14:58 haha Mar 11 18:15:18 i am thinking, that i found and repaired bug in tangogps Mar 11 18:15:18 PaulFert`, kind of? Can you make a recommendation of any decent UPSes that are cheap... Mar 11 18:15:24 dos1: yep... is there Mar 11 18:15:31 is here someone who have problems with stability of 0.96? Mar 11 18:15:32 mrmoku`: ok, fine Mar 11 18:15:33 new EFL too.. btw. Mar 11 18:15:43 Oh, that'll take 220 VAC (really shitty power), and output some beautiful 110-120 VAC. Mar 11 18:15:44 (which breaks shr-settings again me thinks ;) Mar 11 18:16:00 Sargun: our UPSes are special. Used for base cell stations usually. With 48-54 DC output :) Mar 11 18:16:22 Oh, we can do that too.. We just need something that'll take nasty power, and give us beautiful power. Mar 11 18:16:24 mrmoku`: /me is going to check that :D Mar 11 18:16:24 my package is here: Mar 11 18:16:25 http://pcl210-00.fit.vutbr.cz/openmoko/tangogps_0.9.6-r1_armv4t.ipk Mar 11 18:16:36 dos1: first thing is Mar 11 18:16:36 root@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 shr-settings Mar 11 18:16:37 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) Mar 11 18:16:48 that's always with 2.6 Mar 11 18:16:53 (python2.6) Mar 11 18:17:08 then Mar 11 18:17:09 TypeError: displayModulesWin() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given) Mar 11 18:17:36 hmm... Mar 11 18:17:39 just the main menu starts fine... can tap what you want Mar 11 18:17:45 modules won't open Mar 11 18:17:49 ok Mar 11 18:18:14 Sargun: so, i'm sorry, but i can not recommend any particular brand. But any power supply based on switch-mode operation will work for you, i think. Mar 11 18:19:18 Sargun: for a UPS you need so-called "online" type, the ones that first produce DC and then feed it in an invertor. Mar 11 18:19:49 PaulFert`, yeah, we're looking at the APC 3000 series Mar 11 18:20:35 mmm... delicious power Mar 11 18:23:00 hey guys. how can you send direct AT command using SHR? i'd like to disable sim pin Mar 11 18:23:35 Sargun: btw, if you want to feed computer equipment i don't think that beautiful output power is of concern, as switching-mode PSU rectify it first anyway. Mar 11 18:23:43 KaZeR: mickeyterm Mar 11 18:23:49 thanks PaulFert` Mar 11 18:23:56 PaulFert`, it's feeding to some fairly sensitive computer equipment Mar 11 18:23:58 KaZeR: HTH Mar 11 18:24:02 which responds very badly to noise. Mar 11 18:25:53 Sargun: looks like apc3000 is not "online" Mar 11 18:26:32 KaZeR: you could also use SetAuthCodeRequired and cli-framework Mar 11 18:26:54 Sargun: or can it switch to the online mode ("generator compatible")? Anyway, looks like highly OT here :( Mar 11 18:27:00 mrmoku`, would you mind to provide a more complete example? i suck at dbus.. Mar 11 18:27:23 PaulFert`, hm, I might tell them to get one of these: http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=223 Mar 11 18:28:31 nice Mar 11 18:28:51 KaZeR: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.html;hb=HEAD#SetAuthCodeRequired Mar 11 18:29:11 startup cli-framework Mar 11 18:29:12 Sargun: PaulFert` : all the power failures I've seen at Siemens-computerrooms were caused by break of online UPS. Th ;Dose were in the 100k-bucks class though Mar 11 18:29:25 thanks mrmoku` Mar 11 18:29:37 DocScrutinizer, you used to work at siemens? Mar 11 18:29:48 external Mar 11 18:29:48 and do gsmsim.SetAuthCodeRequired(False, "yourpin") Mar 11 18:30:01 great thanks Mar 11 18:30:05 SetAuthCodeRequired? Mar 11 18:30:07 hmm Mar 11 18:30:09 we automated SIEMES-geraetewerk Erlangen back in the late 80s Mar 11 18:30:11 so... Mar 11 18:30:22 hehe Mar 11 18:30:27 yep... one more thing to stuff in the settings ;) Mar 11 18:30:27 * dos1 adds that to shr-settings todo :D Mar 11 18:30:54 SeligArkin: this last one looks more like what you need :) Mar 11 18:31:06 DocScrutinizer, the only chunk I extracted out of "SIEMES-geraetewerk Erlangen" was "Erlang" -- you mean the programming language? Mar 11 18:31:21 lol, nope Mar 11 18:31:24 it would be nice if someone will do python bindings to our elementary widgets Mar 11 18:31:32 (keypad and resizing-label) Mar 11 18:31:46 woooowww Mar 11 18:31:46 DocScrutinizer: still there's no other method of getting clean power from very dirty power, afaik. Mar 11 18:32:21 http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/preise_foerderungen/bericht-63930.html Mar 11 18:32:45 PaulFert`: yup Mar 11 18:33:07 eww, dirty power :( Mar 11 18:33:13 where do you live, siberia? Mar 11 18:33:20 ethiopia? Mar 11 18:33:22 Dave: the dark side Mar 11 18:33:26 :o Mar 11 18:33:39 for their power is impure? :p Mar 11 18:34:25 mrmoku`, actually it was simplier using mickeyterm :) (AT+CLCK="SC",0,"1234") Mar 11 18:35:06 :-) Mar 11 18:35:37 DocScrutinizer: looks cool, the best factory :) Mar 11 18:35:55 PaulFert`: yeah, amazing Mar 11 18:36:25 Dave, Chinese power sucks Mar 11 18:36:48 What do they make? Mar 11 18:36:53 Sargun, roger that. Mar 11 18:36:56 It is made by the same people that bring you reality TV, and call Ramen food. Mar 11 18:37:05 :D Mar 11 18:37:10 GREAT QUALITY Mar 11 18:37:12 ... and the '08 Olympics. :) Mar 11 18:37:14 ah he Mar 11 18:37:21 said the bad r-word Mar 11 18:37:43 :p Mar 11 18:37:53 tut-tut Mar 11 18:39:16 * Zorkman keeps thinking there is something wrong with shr-testing and tangogps on his fr :( Mar 11 18:39:35 waited in an open space for over twenty minutes with tangogps: nothing Mar 11 18:39:47 deleted ogsmd.pickle and waited another 20 minutes: nothing Mar 11 18:40:02 fired up openmoko-agpsui (withouth feeding it any agps date): 26 seconds Mar 11 18:40:24 o_O Mar 11 18:41:07 PaulFert`: especially since the whole automation on process level was done on Sicomp M-70 (http://www.tentacle.franken.de/m80/index.html) in COBOL (!!!!) Mar 11 18:41:34 mrmoku`: looks like e-wm-menu works with new upgrade ;) Mar 11 18:41:37 Ainulindale: I need you to provide a description of the SHR project Mar 11 18:41:47 wasn't our decission, Siemens business guys demand Mar 11 18:42:01 I'll include it in the Description for GSoC Mar 11 18:42:19 alphaone: it's on the wiki Mar 11 18:42:25 (OM wiki IIRC) Mar 11 18:43:37 DocScrutinizer: amazing Mar 11 18:43:50 okay, taken from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#Why_SHR_exists Mar 11 18:43:52 thanks Mar 11 18:44:13 hahahahaha Mar 11 19:08:42 mrmoku`: have you tried to add the failing scroller to some box before doing elm_scroller_content_set? Mar 11 19:09:25 PaulFert`: yep.. have tried that... I'm writing a standalone app right now Mar 11 19:09:40 PaulFert`: one thing I do not see in rasters apps is the use of layouts... Mar 11 19:10:20 PaulFert`: so I'm writing a small app that uses the messages layout... to see what happens Mar 11 19:12:04 mrmoku`: looks like evas_object_smart_member_add calls evas_object_release first for the object it adds, and for that to work it should already be in eina layer list or smth like that. Mar 11 19:12:17 mrmoku`: what standalone app? Mar 11 19:12:38 bumbl: small test app without multithreading just to see if the elm part works Mar 11 19:12:55 nothing to be usefull further than debugging the segfault :P Mar 11 19:13:23 ah ok Mar 11 19:13:31 mrmoku`: so looks like the scroller should be added somewhere first. Mar 11 19:14:07 PaulFert`: tried that too... and asked raster... he said it should not matter Mar 11 19:14:20 it changed things... segfaulting in a slightly different way Mar 11 19:15:35 mrmoku`: i've just fixed shr-settings, it should work now Mar 11 19:16:02 pushed? Mar 11 19:16:26 mrmoku`: yep Mar 11 19:16:51 * mrmoku` rebuilds Mar 11 19:18:54 mrmoku`: eina_inlist_remove looks scary ;) Mar 11 19:19:19 heyho Mar 11 19:19:41 PaulFert`: :-) Mar 11 19:23:38 dos1: yep... works again :D Mar 11 19:24:40 * mrmoku` has to wait until e stuff finished compiling... Mar 11 19:33:38 PaulFert`: looking at quickdevs code for some weeks now... and I'm quite sure it is *not* a threading problem... Mar 11 19:34:25 mrmoku: what is not a threading problem? Mar 11 19:34:27 the first time I'm writing a app in the hope it will segfault :P Mar 11 19:34:39 morphis: the segfault in openmoko-messages with new EFL version Mar 11 19:34:44 ah ok Mar 11 19:34:50 no python prob :-) Mar 11 19:35:32 I never thought :) Mar 11 19:36:30 mrmoku`: do you know how far raster is with his message app? Mar 11 19:37:09 bumbl: nop... last time I looked at the source it looked... hmm incomplete ;) Mar 11 19:37:28 concept looks good though Mar 11 19:37:31 (maybe 1 or 2 weeks ago) Mar 11 19:41:34 in which oe python-* package is the support for multiprocessing? Mar 11 19:41:36 mrmoku`: It'd be interesting to have eina compiled with EINA_SAFETY_CHECKS Mar 11 19:42:46 PaulFert`: hmm... could try that... just eina? Mar 11 19:43:23 mrmoku`: at least. After all, the segfault is in eina, probably it'll show the violation that leads to that. Mar 11 19:46:07 PaulFert`: hmm... looks like it is enabled by default Mar 11 19:46:08 [disable safety checks for NULL pointers and like. [[default=enabled]]] Mar 11 19:46:16 (from configure.ac) Mar 11 19:46:44 mrmoku`: "disable safety checks" enabled? Mar 11 19:47:07 for me looks like now safety checks are disabled ;) Mar 11 19:47:42 dos1++ Mar 11 19:48:52 any news? Mar 11 19:49:54 well... configure log: Mar 11 19:49:55 checking whether to do safety checking on api parameters... yes Mar 11 19:50:12 that means enabled... no? ;) Mar 11 19:51:06 has anyone of you seen and used a palm pre in "real live" (although i am not that attracted by the webos idea i am looking for a phone that works in the near future) Mar 11 19:51:50 mrmoku`: just see if it defines EINA_SAFETY_CHECKS or not :) Mar 11 19:52:18 PaulFert`: after successful compile OE removes the sources... so I just have the logs Mar 11 19:52:36 mrmoku`: but you still have the configure source Mar 11 19:53:22 mrmoku`: ok, looks like it's enabled (from configure.ac) Mar 11 19:55:31 Blueslee! Mar 11 19:56:10 DaveMoko: i dont know you, who are u? Mar 11 19:56:15 ;-) Mar 11 19:56:59 ls Mar 11 19:57:00 It's Dave, the Breaker of Mokos! Mar 11 19:57:13 Ainulindale: I/O error. Mar 11 19:57:23 :P Mar 11 19:57:28 YES, IT IS I! Mar 11 19:57:36 no manual entry Mar 11 19:57:45 Dave, the one that is making that cool unlocking app with transformers Mar 11 19:57:58 huhu Mar 11 19:58:44 WE HEAR YoU Mar 11 19:58:59 is the transparency implemented yet, how do i activate it? where can i find frozen-bubble and how do i play it? Mar 11 19:59:10 Good questions :D Mar 11 19:59:14 1. dos1 Mar 11 19:59:17 2. opkg.org Mar 11 19:59:33 BluesLee: transparency? upgrade xserver-kdrive-glamo from shr-unstable and enable composite Mar 11 19:59:39 3. frozen-bubble.org Mar 11 19:59:58 any plans on making a big ass transparent keyboard? Mar 11 20:00:07 4. after you discover it's actually terrible, proceed to 5 Mar 11 20:00:09 5. bash dos1 Mar 11 20:00:14 done; Mar 11 20:00:34 its not there Mar 11 20:00:38 opkg.org Mar 11 20:01:09 thanx dos1 Mar 11 20:01:52 dave: i dont trust you anymore which doesnt mean that it trusted you before;-) Mar 11 20:02:09 :( Mar 11 20:02:24 Dave: just a joke Mar 11 20:03:18 :P Mar 11 20:03:37 silly germans ;) Mar 11 20:04:04 you are german? Mar 11 20:04:15 No! Mar 11 20:04:18 :-) Mar 11 20:04:21 dave is cosmopolitan :) Mar 11 20:04:21 or should I say, NEIN Mar 11 20:04:27 zorkman, ja ;D Mar 11 20:05:41 stemmer det Mar 11 20:08:52 lol Mar 11 20:09:30 Dave != cosmopolitan Mar 11 20:09:36 Dave = mokolover Mar 11 20:09:46 * beniwtv is still wondering what DaveMoko meant... Mar 11 20:09:50 deep in his heart he likes his babies Mar 11 20:10:06 Even if he fries them occaisionally. Mar 11 20:10:51 well Mar 11 20:11:03 accidents happen Mar 11 20:11:06 mwester, you joke, but last night I almost ended up with freerunner a la mode :\ Mar 11 20:12:27 bumble... yes... accidents... ¬_¬ Mar 11 20:27:23 dos1, shr-settings works well with last update :) Mar 11 20:27:39 nice :) Mar 11 20:27:45 /whois Dave Mar 11 20:28:48 how can I jump to shr-unstable from testing, I feel that I need more updates and breakage, testing is boring, it's almost stable Mar 11 20:29:21 :o Mar 11 20:29:27 breakage breakage breakage Mar 11 20:29:29 unstable... Mar 11 20:29:43 openmoko-gærn! ;D Mar 11 20:30:01 stop feeding that guy weed for breakfast :-D Mar 11 20:30:02 zorkman, shr-labiel... of zo ;p Mar 11 20:30:13 tomboy, perhaps it is vegemite instead :D Mar 11 20:30:26 Nederland \o/ Mar 11 20:30:34 fredrin, have a look at /etc/opkg and change the feeds Mar 11 20:35:32 and switching without reflashing migjt not work Mar 11 20:48:46 dos1, shall I add to the shr-settings wishlist to have some way of setting some configs load by default? ie. auto-suspend off Mar 11 20:49:10 Sharwin_F: no. it should be handled by frameworkd Mar 11 20:49:23 btw. for persistent auto-suspend set suspend timeout to 0 Mar 11 20:49:51 s/persistent turning off auto-suspend/ Mar 11 20:49:57 argh... Mar 11 20:50:46 :-D Mar 11 20:50:50 dos1, the same with profiles? It would be great to load with silent mode for default Mar 11 20:51:20 Sharwin_F: it should be handled by frameworkd too Mar 11 20:51:21 that's what we think anyway Mar 11 20:51:36 shr-settings isn't a daemon Mar 11 20:51:45 and it should not be Mar 11 20:51:49 haha Mar 11 20:51:55 who thought that up to begin with? Mar 11 21:04:59 yeaaahhh... test program segfaults in the same way :D Mar 11 21:07:32 nice :) Mar 11 21:07:35 mrmoku`: Cool :) Mar 11 21:07:46 mrmoku`: let's bug raster! :D Mar 11 21:15:23 * bgat is away: NMI Mar 11 21:26:39 ok, have to go Mar 11 21:26:40 cu Mar 11 21:26:52 mrmoku`: good luck with debuging :) Mar 11 21:38:55 hey, can anyone plz tell me from which family the freerunner processor arm920t is? integrator realview or versatile? Mar 11 21:39:44 root_at: why do you ask? Mar 11 21:40:20 lindi-, i want to make the kernel modules, for my live iamge Mar 11 21:40:51 and its asking me which arm system type i have Mar 11 21:40:52 root_at: doesn't the config file specify this? Mar 11 21:41:22 anybody wants to add libglade-2.0 to the shr testing feeds? Mar 11 21:41:29 # CONFIG_ARCH_INTEGRATOR is not set Mar 11 21:41:29 # CONFIG_ARCH_REALVIEW is not set Mar 11 21:41:29 # CONFIG_ARCH_VERSATILE is not set Mar 11 21:41:34 root_at: none of those at least is set Mar 11 21:41:46 root_at: it's "CONFIG_ARCH_S3C2410=y" Mar 11 21:42:37 has anyone else seen http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/375 ? Mar 11 21:42:49 lindi-, thanks Mar 11 21:43:33 I think I made the jump from shr-testing to shr-unstable, needed to fix missed icons bug Mar 11 21:43:38 johnsu01: argh, the output is badly line-wrapped in elinks Mar 11 21:44:15 lindi-: sorry, used the pre markup for the log paste :/ Mar 11 21:44:28 johnsu01: {{{? Mar 11 21:44:39 lindi-: yeah Mar 11 21:44:57 odd Mar 11 22:34:56 Questions - on kernel 2.6.28-rc4 NETLINK_KOBJECT_UEVENT does not seem to work, at least not for usb connect/disconnect. Is this a known issue and should I use another kernel ? Mar 11 22:35:38 or is there another KOBJECT_UEVENT that can be easily triggered on the FR for testing ? Mar 11 22:46:14 does "request_modules: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c" look like missing modules? Mar 11 22:47:15 Contacts app on shr-unstable crashes when editing a phone number Mar 12 01:33:11 Sargun. Mar 12 02:20:02 * bgat is back Mar 12 02:53:24 :p **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 12 02:59:56 2009