**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 15 02:59:57 2009 Mar 15 06:02:05 mwester: Not Qi-fails-to-init-the-serial-port but Qi-did-the-right-thing-not-enabling-GPIOs-as-outputs-to-a-turned-off-GSM-modem. Mar 15 10:22:32 morphis: you should have access now Mar 15 10:22:41 morphis: i have uploaded the patch against the elm headers Mar 15 10:23:12 mickey|chemnitz, great Mar 15 10:23:26 so I can fix the compilation error with dbus Mar 15 10:23:52 normal gitosis clone scheme git://git@..../...git ? Mar 15 10:24:11 sorry ssh:// Mar 15 10:24:30 git clone git@git.freesmartphone.org:libeflvala Mar 15 10:24:38 k Mar 15 10:27:41 mickey|chemnitz, I always get a Permission denied Mar 15 10:28:42 let me refresh the keydir Mar 15 10:29:11 aye Mar 15 10:29:36 try again now Mar 15 10:29:38 ok its working Mar 15 10:29:45 great Mar 15 10:29:57 thank you :) Mar 15 10:31:55 mickey|chemnitz, what have raster said yesterday, will he include the patch? Mar 15 10:32:06 no idea Mar 15 10:32:11 ok Mar 15 10:32:12 i left before i read his comments Mar 15 10:32:30 the patch should be straightforward though Mar 15 10:32:35 * morphis will look into his history Mar 15 10:32:51 luckily vala only needs sane headers when people actually use functionality Mar 15 10:33:10 so we can get away with our limited bindings for evas etc. for the time being until someone needs the stuff Mar 15 10:33:50 mickey|chemnitz, the patch is included in current elementary Mar 15 10:33:59 ah, awesome Mar 15 10:34:04 :) Mar 15 10:34:09 ~praise raster Mar 15 10:35:35 mickey|chemnitz, are streams available for the clt? Mar 15 10:35:50 yep Mar 15 10:36:05 yeah! Mar 15 10:36:35 mickey|chemnitz: do you have a moment? Mar 15 10:36:59 some minutes, ya Mar 15 10:37:31 * mickey|chemnitz still trying to figure out what to talk about in his talk Mar 15 10:38:28 looking at e changelog he already did :-) Mar 15 10:38:54 * mrmoku` should read complete backlog before babbling :P Mar 15 10:39:10 mickey|chemnitz: http://rafb.net/p/Cf7b5S14.html Mar 15 10:39:22 btw. mickey|chemnitz any livestream of your talk? Mar 15 10:39:58 bumbl: http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/vortraege/videostream.html? Mar 15 10:40:18 morphis: thanks Mar 15 10:42:37 bumbl: the sqlite bindings do not appreciate bogus """ in the statement Mar 15 10:42:42 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07libeflvala * r24fb0256f0f9 10/examples/vapi/Makefile.am: Add package dbus-glib-1 to make the exmaples compile Mar 15 10:42:45 so it's no surprise that this doesn#t work Mar 15 10:42:49 exmaples? :) Mar 15 10:44:10 mickey|chemnitz: so what would be the correct way to do it and in how far are the """ bogus? Mar 15 10:44:18 mickey|chemnitz, uups :) Mar 15 10:45:09 bumbl: well, the correct way is the way that works, like without the """ Mar 15 10:45:18 """ do not belong to the sqlite statement Mar 15 10:45:20 ah ok Mar 15 10:45:20 that's why they're bogus Mar 15 10:45:25 thank you Mar 15 10:45:27 np Mar 15 10:46:26 * bumbl puts on sackcloth and ashes Mar 15 10:46:36 heh Mar 15 11:24:31 morning Mar 15 11:26:58 ptitjes: morning ;D Mar 15 11:27:15 * mrmoku wonders if all french sleep that long ;) Mar 15 11:27:23 how are you mrmoku ? Mar 15 11:27:31 fine :-) Mar 15 11:27:41 in fact I woke up at 9:30 Mar 15 11:27:43 :D Mar 15 11:27:44 though... tired... because my small kid got up early Mar 15 11:27:54 arf Mar 15 11:27:57 he always gets up early.... on sundays Mar 15 11:28:07 not monday to friday though Mar 15 11:28:18 yes he is not yet as lazy as us :p Mar 15 11:29:12 hehe.. might be... annoys me anyway though ;) Mar 15 11:30:13 ptitjes: is your automatic callback parameter magic working? will you proove DocScrutinizer to be wrong? :P Mar 15 11:30:16 mrmoku: when they grow up they will appreciate that the weekend days are for sleep Mar 15 11:30:40 bumbl: yeah... I know... does not help me now though :( Mar 15 11:31:33 hehe Mar 15 11:32:47 and... I don't require them to sleep long... just let me do it :P Mar 15 11:33:58 2sec hotlining Mar 15 11:34:38 mrmoku: you can't proove me wrong. Just copying programcode is worth nothing as the "machine" won't act different on executing the original instructions or the copy Mar 15 11:34:39 haha Mar 15 11:35:28 instantiations have own vatiable space but usually share common programtext Mar 15 11:36:41 there are even chances code isn't relocatble and copying it to another addresslevel won't work at all Mar 15 11:37:22 think of absolute jumps for example Mar 15 11:41:21 but what the hell got me in my mind when I accepted to host people on my web hoster ??!!! Mar 15 11:42:15 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07libeflvala * rc874ef904f28 10/eflvala-1.0.pc.in: Fix eina pkg-config dependency Mar 15 11:42:28 DocScrutinizer: I don't know what made you understand I wanted to replicate an exact copy of a callback Mar 15 11:43:01 maybe I got you completely wrong. happens every once in a while Mar 15 11:43:01 DocScrutinizer: for you tounderstand here is what I use finaly : http://sourceware.org/libffi/ Mar 15 11:43:36 * mrmoku does not want to proove anybody wrong :-) Mar 15 11:44:57 DocScrutinizer: some more informations in the readme http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libffi/include/ffi.h.in?rev=1.12&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=libffi Mar 15 11:45:12 ptitjes: looks like a valid way to handle the issue Mar 15 11:45:29 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rbeef8c40c13e 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: ogsmd: Fix debug commands with new parser Mar 15 11:45:40 So now I can do callback dynamically based on a closure (that is a inner callback + user data for the inner callback) Mar 15 11:46:05 cool, that's exactly what you need Mar 15 11:46:12 exactly Mar 15 11:46:13 :) Mar 15 11:46:43 so argue ended ;) ? Mar 15 11:46:46 however I build it from source with -gdwarf-2 -O0 and in the process to understand why I segfault in it :) Mar 15 11:47:24 DocScrutinizer: there was no argue. just I found it annoying that you were not wanting to understand and telling stuff to discourage Mar 15 11:47:35 DocScrutinizer: I knew you in a better shape Mar 15 11:47:35 sorry Mar 15 11:47:55 oh well, there are highs and lows :D Mar 15 11:48:15 Imagine I would have told you : No you can't fix that buzz thing... Mar 15 11:48:53 that would have been too bad you didn't fix it because of braking people Mar 15 11:49:21 oh! btw tested the A7 of Angus Mar 15 11:49:32 mrmoku: I forgot to tell you this also Mar 15 11:49:41 was never my intention to stae "you can't", I just was out to point at problems with unknown callconventions and the way it should be if there's a way to do it that way Mar 15 11:49:52 s/stae/state/ Mar 15 11:49:53 DocScrutinizer meant: was never my intention to state "you can't", I just was out to point at problems with unknown callconventions and the way it should be if there's a way to do it that way Mar 15 11:50:27 DocScrutinizer: I had this in mind. However I did not see at first that libffi was enabling the both side of the thing : that is call and be called Mar 15 11:50:38 because libffi was my choice at first Mar 15 11:51:10 well nevermind, need a breakfast coffee now Mar 15 11:51:19 then tell me about A7 :D Mar 15 11:51:24 DocScrutinizer: it seems the A7 has your bug fix, however Mar 15 11:51:49 it is suffering from the fact SHR has a too much important echo fix Mar 15 11:52:05 I think we should include a software gate Mar 15 11:52:40 because it seems to me the echo fix (I think we use -18db or something like this) is acting as an expander Mar 15 11:53:21 thus when nobody speaks there are still some white noise (hopefully not a buzz however) Mar 15 11:54:02 I did not have enough time to figure out what happens exactly Mar 15 11:54:30 DocScrutinizer: would you come to the FSOSHRUDCON ? Mar 15 11:54:38 FSOSHRUDCON09 Mar 15 11:55:11 I think the best date would be on 1-3 of May Mar 15 11:55:58 because the 1st is non-working day in Belgium, France and Luxembourg Mar 15 11:56:24 this would let some time to come in, thus I propose it to take place in Germany Mar 15 11:56:52 mrmoku: Berlin would be my favorite place, what do you think of it ? Mar 15 11:57:13 A7 is supposed to ship with buzzfix, yup. Anyway I didn't otice they already started shipping it. Is this a regular sales device? Mar 15 11:57:44 DocScrutinizer: no! just for tapei people Mar 15 11:57:48 for now Mar 15 11:57:54 ahh ok Mar 15 11:59:39 I mean om people Mar 15 11:59:52 (fsoshrcon) I'd bee much more inclined it visiting it when it's in Germany and I had some topics making my appearance any sense Mar 15 11:59:56 Angus did receive it some days before we met Mar 15 12:00:13 DocScrutinizer: you have some Mar 15 12:00:20 (topics) Mar 15 12:00:46 getting spank? ;D Mar 15 12:00:52 :D Mar 15 12:02:20 DocScrutinizer: we need you to make a presentation of pros/cons of the current hardware Mar 15 12:02:33 and to present us some external gadgets for the freerunner Mar 15 12:02:44 I really believe in open-source hardware Mar 15 12:03:07 I would be kind if we can develop some external gadgets for the fr Mar 15 12:03:29 (and also yes to spank you :p) Mar 15 12:03:50 (and I owe you a beer btw!) Mar 15 12:04:00 (or more...) Mar 15 12:04:08 (beers I mean) Mar 15 12:04:18 :p Mar 15 12:04:52 well I don't have any nice external gadgets to showw off Mar 15 12:05:04 maybe a Y-Cable Mar 15 12:05:18 DocScrutinizer: work on it! you have one month and a half! Mar 15 12:05:30 DocScrutinizer: a Y usb cable ? that is nice Mar 15 12:05:48 * ptitjes moves away from that fucking laptop for some minutes Mar 15 12:05:51 yup, got three of the 5pole extensions yesterday Mar 15 12:20:49 DocScrutinizer: 5pole ? Mar 15 12:20:58 yup Mar 15 12:21:10 cool thing! :D Mar 15 12:21:50 all 5 pins connected frm one end to the other Mar 15 12:22:11 == easy access to id-pin Mar 15 12:22:34 extension for mokocharger in expression Mar 15 12:24:32 solder the 4 wires of a standard A-type receptacle hlf of a usual extension cable to 4 of the 5 wires, add 2pcs 15k, and you got the genuine Y-Cable, even with detection of charger plugged in or not Mar 15 12:25:50 Deubeuliou: ping Mar 15 12:26:23 DocScrutinizer: I want one! please publish the schematic! Mar 15 12:27:10 duh, it's widespread in web, just skimming my browser history for the external page :-/ Mar 15 12:28:38 http://om.quatrox.org/om/ Mar 15 12:29:11 that's the schem basically Mar 15 12:29:37 but with the 5pole miniB extension it's MUCH more nice and clean Mar 15 12:35:53 ptitjes, pong Mar 15 12:36:07 sorry for last week, I was too busy Mar 15 12:50:04 hello David! Mar 15 12:50:08 how are you ? Mar 15 12:55:11 ptitjes: here's the 5pole extension: http://www.partsdata.de/USB_Mini-B-Verlaengerung_Kabel_1m_CU-XB05-10.html Mar 15 13:09:48 DocScrutinizer: are you sure it is the correct link ? Mar 15 13:10:10 hmm c&p Mar 15 13:10:17 why? Mar 15 13:11:05 and which one? Mar 15 13:11:24 quatrox or partsdata? Mar 15 13:13:54 ptitjes: is the link broken or do you think the content is OT? Mar 15 13:14:32 Didier: fine, thanks Mar 15 13:15:31 ptitjes, I haven't spent time on Vala for a week, though Mar 15 13:17:24 DocScrutinizer: ok I had miss the quatrox link :) Mar 15 13:17:45 ahh,ok Mar 15 13:17:48 np Mar 15 13:18:01 I understand how the Y works, but how to use the partdata stuff ? Mar 15 13:19:34 it yields the FR end plus a very convenient OMcharger receptacle end (instead of the clumsy PCBmount receptacle used in quatrox 0.1.1 version) Mar 15 13:21:37 ptitjes: of course you don't need or even want the LED stuff from quatrox schem Mar 15 13:26:12 ptitjes: echo is configurable via frameworkd.conf Mar 15 13:27:08 ha nice! Mar 15 13:29:52 ptitjes: basically the partsdata cable covers the two red connectors of quatrox schem, connected 1:1. All you need is to attach the USB-A-receptacle (blue, 4 wires) plus the 2 x 15k which of course can be connected same position center of "Y" where you attach the 4 wires to partsdata 5pole-extension) Mar 15 13:32:21 use the female end of a usual standard usb extension for the third end of the "Y" and you have a really cool accessory that doesn't scare your GF ;-) Mar 15 13:34:08 :) Mar 15 13:39:29 * DocScrutinizer ponders how many of those Y-Cables he could sell to FR owners. Maybe it's worth starting a mini-bussines Mar 15 13:52:54 ptitjes: also could pay for my expense when joining FSOHSRCON ;-) Mar 15 13:53:32 you are so right! Mar 15 13:59:16 ptitjes: Ainulindale: any idea about duration of fsohsrcon? one day, or more? Mar 15 14:02:12 DocScrutinizer: I think two days would be cool Mar 15 14:03:28 1st day: welcome words/apperitive, introduction presentation (one FSO, one SHR), party Mar 15 14:03:35 someone started a poll to determine actual location? Mar 15 14:03:57 2nd day: specific talks and posters Mar 15 14:04:28 + buzzfix-workshop ;) Mar 15 14:04:52 yeah! Mar 15 14:05:04 DocScrutinizer: could you buy some caps and resistors more ? Mar 15 14:05:11 I may help in doing the fix Mar 15 14:06:09 cool. I have some 20 sets of C+R, expecting more to come courtesy Tony@TPE Mar 15 14:09:09 ahh, and I ordered some dozen two days ago. Almost forgot Mar 15 14:09:14 haha so cool Mar 15 14:09:34 TAsn: huh? what's wrong? Mar 15 14:09:40 the guy that added the turn off vibration to the framework posted the how to, to the shr ml Mar 15 14:09:49 my phone finally has a silent mode ;] Mar 15 14:10:01 ahh Mar 15 14:10:11 ;) Mar 15 14:10:18 it's a big thing for me! Mar 15 14:10:25 when I'm in class Mar 15 14:10:26 my phone need vibration on sms ;/ Mar 15 14:10:40 I want the phone to stfu Mar 15 14:10:48 and vibrating on the table is bad. Mar 15 14:10:48 TAsn: :D Mar 15 14:11:04 don't you agree? Mar 15 14:11:10 sure Mar 15 14:12:06 TAsn: should be added to frameworkd... care to create a ticket? Mar 15 14:12:35 DocScrutinizer: is there anyone at Om in the US that might be willing to send C & R out? finding and ording small quanitities is difficult, and very expensive here :( Mar 15 14:13:23 mrmoku, I don't think I'm registered in the trac. Mar 15 14:13:24 sec Mar 15 14:13:46 * TAsn tasn is entering trac. Mar 15 14:13:52 shit Mar 15 14:13:54 double tasn ;] Mar 15 14:13:56 mwester: same here, even worse probably. I think Steve could do, though he got a waggonload of duties already Mar 15 14:14:28 yeah, I'm not registered Mar 15 14:14:38 mrmoku, are you? Mar 15 14:15:51 freesmartphone trac... hmm don't remember... I have an account on om trac.. shr trac... Mar 15 14:16:13 nop... not registered :( Mar 15 14:16:45 sec Mar 15 14:16:48 i'll register Mar 15 14:17:09 I only reported stuff there before registration was a must ;] Mar 15 14:17:12 I hate registration Mar 15 14:17:40 cool Mar 15 14:17:42 I'm in! Mar 15 14:19:30 TAsn: Yeah, so do I... Mar 15 14:19:55 However, the spam flooding our tickets forced us to close trac to registered users only :-/ Mar 15 14:20:54 alphaone: any idea when Tony will send our hw parts? Mar 15 14:21:49 DocScrutinizer: I haven't mailed him back, it's on my list for today Mar 15 14:22:56 k, seems I would need 100 per, to have a reasonable stock Mar 15 14:23:40 DocScrutinizer: Yeah, probably still cheaper to order twice the amount needed than to have them send two stacks Mar 15 14:23:51 yup Mar 15 14:23:53 mrmoku, done. Mar 15 14:23:54 ;] Mar 15 14:24:19 It's so cool having a no vibrate option! ;] Mar 15 14:45:50 Hey Anton :) Mar 15 15:29:05 mickey|chemnitz: i got ogsmd to a state where I can't register to network anymore, http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/383 -- is there something I should try before restarting frameworkd? Mar 15 15:29:21 mickey|chemnitz: (just asking in case this situation is extremely rare and I can't reproduce it afterwards) Mar 15 15:29:50 ((would really need separate bug debugging phone and daily phone -- just guess which one would hit the bugs then...)) Mar 15 15:34:05 lindi-: Please don't zip your logs. Most people just want to look at them online... Mar 15 15:34:36 If you didn't set ogsmd log_level to DEBUG I fear there is not much we can tell.. Mar 15 15:36:21 alphaone: but i often hit the maximum limit of 256 Mar 15 15:36:33 alphaone: don't browsers support compression? Mar 15 15:36:38 lindi-: hmm Mar 15 15:36:46 alphaone: I set it to DEBUG in august :-) Mar 15 15:36:56 Well, trac doesn't seem to understand it Mar 15 15:37:06 alphaone: fix it or up the 256K limit :-) Mar 15 15:37:22 In any case, maybe you can truncate the log to just the day this problem occured? Mar 15 15:37:33 alphaone: the log has only 1,5 hours Mar 15 15:37:44 say what? Mar 15 15:37:53 256k log data in 1.5 hours? Mar 15 15:37:55 alphaone: I am sending cell ids for opencellidorg Mar 15 15:38:04 heh, okay Mar 15 15:38:20 alphaone: so constant torture to ogsmd Mar 15 15:38:57 :-) Mar 15 15:39:01 alphaone: any debugging hints? Mar 15 15:39:08 one sec Mar 15 15:39:36 So when did that happen? Mar 15 15:39:51 alphaone: see my first comment Mar 15 15:39:58 alphaone: 2009-03-15 16:31:42 cbNetworkStatus (registration unregistered) Mar 15 15:40:02 alphaone: was the first symptom Mar 15 15:40:12 alphaone: and then trying to Register() again did not work Mar 15 15:41:22 ah, opencellid only asks for the current cell, right? Mar 15 15:42:23 alphaone: at the moment Mar 15 15:42:34 alphaone: i have been discussing this with the maintainer Mar 15 15:42:46 alphaone: they also don't use CSQ info Mar 15 15:42:51 hmm Mar 15 15:43:01 alphaone: but that is another story :) Mar 15 15:43:12 Well, it looks like it's the network denying registration. Mar 15 15:43:16 You're roaming? Mar 15 15:44:24 I wonder whether the GetStatus call actually produces traffic on the Um interface. That would explain that they kicked you... Mar 15 15:45:23 alphaone: I'm not roaming but it keeps saying that Mar 15 15:45:34 funny thing Mar 15 15:45:54 alphaone: maybe because my operator does not have its own network hardware afaik? Mar 15 15:46:03 lindi-: The log suggests that ogsmd is not confused.. Mar 15 15:46:19 Nope, it should still be registered. Mar 15 15:46:23 alphaone: but i'm quite sure that if i powercycle calypso I can login to network again Mar 15 15:46:34 alphaone: ok, it has always said "roaming" for me Mar 15 15:46:40 alphaone: like for 6 months Mar 15 15:46:55 Hmm, okay. Might be different for you Mar 15 15:47:13 lindi-: Try to just SetAntennaPower(False) Mar 15 15:47:19 and then set it to True Mar 15 15:47:25 roamingmoko? Mar 15 15:47:35 You know how to use cli-framework? Mar 15 15:47:40 Dave: :-) Mar 15 15:47:46 alphaone: i maintain my own dialer :) Mar 15 15:48:39 Heh, sorry :-) Mar 15 15:50:03 alphaone: now Register() timeouts Mar 15 15:50:36 alphaone: after SetAntennaPower(False) & .SetAntennaPower(True) Mar 15 15:51:13 alphaone: and i start getting registration denied status signals again Mar 15 15:55:15 lindi-: Hmm, what does the log show for the Register() call that times out? Mar 15 15:58:10 alphaone: now it returns org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.NotPresent: Mar 15 15:58:43 alphaone: luckily I have timestamps in the timeout message so I can look that up... Mar 15 16:00:35 hmm, strange stuff Mar 15 16:01:49 alphaone: Register() was called at 17:49:23 and declared as timeouted at 17:49:48 -- http://paste.nerv.fi/24004603.txt Mar 15 16:08:54 lindi-: It doesn't look like it got a timeout... Mar 15 16:09:08 Mar 15 17:50:21 ginger ogsmd.channel DEBUG : COMPLETED 'AT+COPS=0,0' => ['+CME ERROR: 30'] Mar 15 16:09:13 Ah, wait Mar 15 16:10:06 alphaone: but dbus timeout Mar 15 16:10:11 alphaone: not ogsmd parser timeout Mar 15 16:10:18 The CME ERROR: 30 probably causes a Traceback that the logger didn't catch Mar 15 16:10:24 alphaone: I can strace to catch it Mar 15 16:10:38 great, please do Mar 15 16:10:54 The other way would be to start frameworkd from the commandline Mar 15 16:11:03 But then you'd need to restart.. Mar 15 16:11:34 alphaone: and the bug could go away Mar 15 16:13:01 alphaone: nothing with "trace" in strace Mar 15 16:13:17 alphaone: i guess --daemonize somehow makes it not write exceptions even to /dev/null? Mar 15 16:13:36 could be.. Mar 15 16:13:56 alphaone: is there a way to trigger a traceback? Mar 15 16:14:08 Don't know Mar 15 16:14:15 or should I just AT+CFUN with Debug interface? Mar 15 16:14:15 probably :-) Mar 15 16:15:14 AT+COPN i mean Mar 15 16:15:48 what do you want to achieve with that? Mar 15 16:16:10 alphaone: AT+COPN causes traceback Mar 15 16:16:43 alphaone: 'UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xf8 in position 17: ordinal not in range(128)' Mar 15 16:16:53 alphaone: so it's a useful command for generating tracebacks Mar 15 16:17:57 alphaone: but no, i don't see it with strace Mar 15 16:18:07 heh, okay Mar 15 16:18:08 fun Mar 15 16:19:44 alphaone: I wish there was a way to attach python debugger to running process Mar 15 16:20:21 would be nice, yes Mar 15 16:20:51 lindi-: mickey|zzZZzz promised he will add a way to start pdb on some signal handler (SIGINT i.e.). I don't know why didn't he implement it yet, doesn't look to be a hard or unusual thing to me ;) Mar 15 16:21:39 alphaone: any ideas would be very welcome now, i'd like to get this to work :) Mar 15 16:22:25 lindi-: It doesn't really look like an ogsmd problem Mar 15 16:22:50 lindi-: did you by any chance installed debug version of python? Or probably external symbol table is available? You could try to attach with gdb and special scripts i dropped you a link to. Mar 15 16:22:52 Can you release /request the Resouce and thus powercycling the modem? Mar 15 16:23:51 alphaone: I don't use ousaged Mar 15 16:24:01 alphaone: only ogsmd Mar 15 16:24:13 PaulFert`: yeah i noticed those Mar 15 16:25:00 lindi-: Oh Mar 15 16:25:20 lindi-: Well then, seems like you need to restart frameworkd Mar 15 16:26:21 alphaone: can't I start ousaged? Mar 15 16:28:52 Well, ogsmd won't register to it now Mar 15 16:30:34 alphaone: wasn't this supposed to be a modular architecture? ;) Mar 15 16:31:52 lindi-: Yes Mar 15 16:32:06 That's why ogsmd started without ousaged Mar 15 16:32:33 But for certain stuff some subsystems depend on others. Mar 15 16:33:29 lindi-: Patches are appreciated where ogsmd (or any Resource for that matter) listens to nameownerchanged signals of ousaged and switches to standalone/ousaged controlled mode accordingly. Mar 15 16:33:31 :-) Mar 15 16:41:44 blah, hit gpsd regression: https://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=15389&group_id=2116 :-) Mar 15 16:44:08 alphaone: CME ERROR: 30 seems to be no network service Mar 15 16:45:28 lindi-: Okay,, Mar 15 16:45:46 frameworkd should handle that Mar 15 16:45:50 please open a bug Mar 15 16:45:55 alphaone: i did :) Mar 15 16:46:01 Great :-) Mar 15 16:46:16 alphaone: i mean the original one http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/383 Mar 15 16:46:22 lindi-: May I ask why you're using gpsd? Mar 15 16:46:32 alphaone: it is proven-to-work :) Mar 15 16:46:38 alphaone: I have been using it for 6 years or so Mar 15 16:46:44 fair enough Mar 15 16:47:46 alphaone: now simple "AT\r\n" with DebugCommand timeouts Mar 15 16:49:42 alphaone: and gsm0710muxd is in a tight loop trying to write the results of AT+COPN ;) Mar 15 16:50:03 always fails with -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) Mar 15 16:51:12 lindi-: at%sleep=1 helps a lot with annoying 10sec serial interface timeout Mar 15 16:51:50 hmm, that is quite strange. Mar 15 16:51:51 DocScrutinizer: what does that do? Mar 15 16:52:07 otherwise you're going to send every cmd twice in mickeyterm Mar 15 16:52:23 alphaone: can you reproduce it if you try to send "AT+COPN"? Mar 15 16:52:33 DocScrutinizer: i don't use mickeyterm Mar 15 16:52:40 k Mar 15 16:52:44 reproduce what? Mar 15 16:53:07 alphaone: epic failure that happens after it :) Mar 15 16:53:09 lindi-: btw, looks like you can install debug python build from standard repos. Mar 15 16:54:26 alphaone: i can't register even after restarting frameworkd Mar 15 16:54:31 lindi-: gsmdebug.SendCommand("AT+COPN") Mar 15 16:54:32 ? Mar 15 16:54:48 lindi-: Okay, that's somehow good news (for frameworkd at least) Mar 15 16:54:53 Not so much for you Mar 15 16:54:59 Retry in a different phone Mar 15 16:56:40 mickey just fixed a problem with the Debug interface so that may help your problem Mar 15 16:56:44 with COPN Mar 15 16:56:59 alphaone: no other FR here :( Mar 15 16:57:17 and another phone? Mar 15 16:57:26 non FR Mar 15 16:58:29 alphaone: another phone works just fine Mar 15 16:58:36 has been working all the time Mar 15 16:58:47 and does it work now? Mar 15 16:59:18 alphaone: or do you mean i should exchange sim cards? Mar 15 17:00:04 lindi-: Take the SIM with which your FR doesn't work and test it in the other phone Mar 15 17:00:09 Is what I mean Mar 15 17:00:36 alphaone: i have multisim so the SIM cards should be quite identical already Mar 15 17:00:44 to rule out very recent problems with sim and connectivity Mar 15 17:00:48 still Mar 15 17:01:18 alphaone: i was able to register with picocom Mar 15 17:01:36 '+CREG: 0,5' Mar 15 17:01:55 hmm that's even better Mar 15 17:02:59 alphaone: and now ogsmd can register Mar 15 17:03:26 After you had the SIM in a different phone? Mar 15 17:03:28 Or when? Mar 15 17:03:33 alphaone: did not move any SIMs Mar 15 17:03:46 alphaone: after I managed to register with picocom Mar 15 17:04:43 alphaone: hmm, log says frameworkd managed to register at 18:54 too but maybe it was so slow that dbus call timeouted? Mar 15 17:04:57 lindi-: fwiw:picocom and mickeyterm are no different wrt calypso serial timeout Mar 15 17:05:20 alphaone: it seems to have taken at least 2,5 minutes to register if i read this correctly Mar 15 17:05:54 DocScrutinizer: but I used DebugCommand() Mar 15 17:06:56 k Mar 15 17:07:44 lindi-: Well, debugcommand can screw up ogsmd seriously Mar 15 17:07:52 2.5 min surely are much, but may happen occasionally to scan the whole GSM network Mar 15 17:08:43 and register Mar 15 17:08:49 hmm Mar 15 17:09:02 Maybe we need to increase default dbus timeout? Mar 15 17:09:56