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May 21 07:00:24 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #471 (fixes in audio .state files (latest unstable)) created <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/471>
May 21 07:53:59 <mrmoku> libtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.2.4, but the
May 21 07:53:59 <mrmoku> libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from an older release.
May 21 07:53:59 <mrmoku> libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.4
May 21 07:53:59 <mrmoku> libtool: and run autoconf again.
May 21 07:54:11 <mrmoku> this libtool thing is starting to get on my nerves :(
May 21 08:03:41 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: hehe, sounds weird.
May 21 08:03:52 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: what's in aclocal.m4?
May 21 08:04:49 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: looks like your libtool wasn't updated properly...
May 21 08:07:03 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, # generated automatically by aclocal 1.10 -*- Autoconf -*-
May 21 08:08:02 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: what's your autoconf-native version?
May 21 08:08:27 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, native?
May 21 08:08:32 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: hm, it's the same for me, aclocal 1.10...
May 21 08:08:42 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, this is not vala-native I'm fighting right now :)
May 21 08:08:54 <mrmoku> its libsdl-mixer
May 21 08:08:56 <mrmoku> for target
May 21 08:09:07 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: have you managed to fight vala-native?
May 21 08:09:17 <mrmoku> no :(
May 21 08:09:32 <mrmoku> but I have to build some packages which are missing in the feed right now
May 21 08:09:43 <mrmoku> people complained about missing stuff
May 21 08:09:45 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: hm, i told you how to hack around vala-native, i managed to do that even without DISTRO=SHR
May 21 08:10:12 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: can you remove aclocal.m4 to try?
May 21 08:10:24 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, hm, probably I'm just to stupid... will try again now
May 21 08:10:41 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, for libsdl-mixer?
May 21 08:10:49 <mrmoku> or vala-native?
May 21 08:10:50 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: i mean for thes latest problem with libsdl-mixer, yes
May 21 08:10:54 <mrmoku> ok
May 21 08:13:27 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first
May 21 08:13:44 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: do that then
May 21 08:15:06 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: ok, it fails for me too.
May 21 08:15:10 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: nice sign :)
May 21 08:15:55 <mrmoku> :)
May 21 08:16:03 <mrmoku> and make distclean does not work
May 21 08:16:39 * mrmoku wishes to be able to spend the same amount of time into coding as he does in looking at build problems :(
May 21 08:16:57 <mrmoku> brb
May 21 08:27:26 <Gorbusch1> help
May 21 08:27:58 <PaulFertser> help: No such file or directory
May 21 08:28:34 <mrmoku> help
May 21 08:28:37 <Gorbusch1> yeah, different command but i got it now
May 21 08:29:39 <Gorbusch1> but will need help also, since my build fails for shr-testing
May 21 08:30:20 <Gorbusch1> ERROR: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'EnumValue' objects while parsing /home/frank/shr-dist/shr-testing/openembedded/recipes/openmoko-projects/paroli-elementary_git.bb
May 21 08:30:37 <Gorbusch1> does anybody know what i have to change to get it working?
May 21 08:45:25 <BillK_> wiped tmp, but building shr-unstable now stops at libsdl-mixer
May 21 08:46:00 <BillK_> libtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.2.4, but the
May 21 08:46:01 <BillK_> libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from an older release.
May 21 08:46:19 <viq> Does mofi work for you on shr-unstable ?
May 21 08:46:53 <PaulFertser> BillK_: fighting it right now
May 21 08:47:26 <BillK_> ah, I see in the backlog - had a net outage with detail missing - will wait, tkx
May 21 09:07:46 <khiraly_donalds> re
May 21 09:07:53 <khiraly_donalds> mickey|zzZZzz: are you here?
May 21 09:08:12 <khiraly_donalds> mickey|zzZZzz: would be nice if frameworkd would log *who* issued a dbus request, when timeouts
May 21 09:08:32 <khiraly_donalds> 2009.05.21 11:33:34.478 oeventsd.action      ERROR    method RequestResource emited error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply.
May 21 09:09:07 <khiraly_donalds> ^^ it lacks the critical info, what was the dbus request
May 21 09:09:07 <khiraly_donalds> it would help immensely, the debugging
May 21 09:15:21 <khiraly_donalds> and if I request something from ogsmd, should I "unsuspend" it before requesting? It would be lame ...;-\
May 21 09:31:09 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: BillK_ problem is that acinclude.m4 has an old libtool.m4 (libtool-1.5.8) inside...
May 21 09:35:42 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: and even the latest svn version uses an old (1.5) libtool for building. So basically we either need a help of some libtool-magician or revert to an old libtool.
May 21 09:38:42 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: but i managed to build it neverthereless!
May 21 09:40:34 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: basically i removed old libtool.m4 from acinclude.m4, then copied all m4 files from (OE's) usr/share/libtool/libtldl/m4 to (OE's) usr/share/aclocal-1.10/ and made a symlink from usr/share/aclocal-1.10/ to usr/share/aclocal/
May 21 09:40:53 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: a bit too much of a hack, but well it worked
May 21 09:43:40 <Deubeuliou> is "rm -rf tmp/" the right way to clean all built packages, to give it a fresh start ?
May 21 09:44:12 <Deubeuliou> I did so but now, libtool-native won't built w/o any further error message than "gzip: broken pipe" ...
May 21 09:46:34 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: Oh, and i did autoreconf -f -i and probably obeyed to the first suggestion to add m4 to include dirs...
May 21 09:46:35 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #463 (retrieve prefix codes automatically from SIM) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/463#comment:7>
May 21 09:47:17 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, hmm
May 21 09:47:57 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, reverting to older libtool... how dependent are autotools on libtool and vice-versa (regarding the version)
May 21 09:48:07 <mrmoku> can we downgrade just libtool for example?
May 21 09:48:20 <mrmoku> because we need newer autotools for other packages...
May 21 09:48:30 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: if you're doing a distro you'll need to have an autofoo-magician in team anyway.
May 21 09:48:50 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, how right you are... though we have none yet
May 21 09:49:03 <mrmoku> (or he's hiding well) :P
May 21 09:49:14 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: and if want to build a package of a software whose build system was last updated 22 months ago, well...
May 21 09:49:41 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: that's SOL anyway.
May 21 09:49:56 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: workarounds like keeping old libtool won't do in the long-term...
May 21 09:50:04 * mrmoku starts to think distro business is no fun ;)
May 21 09:50:37 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, guess patching buildsystem of packages using old stuff is the way to go...
May 21 09:50:46 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: i've built the package, so that's possible.
May 21 09:50:48 <morphis> heyho
May 21 09:51:49 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: why don't you want to remove it from the feeds and make an announcement so that users will complain to SDL_mixer devs trying to force them to update?
May 21 09:52:11 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: after all you can't fix every unmaintained package out there...
May 21 09:52:42 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, how true... though it depends on what package is depending on it...
May 21 09:52:45 * mrmoku checks
May 21 09:54:37 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, libsdl-mixer is not directly in the feed... it gets pulled via some dependency
May 21 09:54:39 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: so, first i'd bumped SDL_mixer to the latest version. Then i'd ensured it still doesn't build. Then i'd complain to the project's ML and CC'd your ML for the users to know why is it removed from the feeds.
May 21 09:54:41 <Deubeuliou> how can I clean all built packages ? I tried to remove tmp/ but now I'm going into troubles to build some packages
May 21 09:54:59 <Deubeuliou> I want to run a new "make image"
May 21 09:55:11 <mrmoku> Deubeuliou, removing tmp is all you have to do
May 21 09:55:17 <PaulFertser> Deubeuliou: mkdir tmp probably?
May 21 09:55:28 <mrmoku> OE does that for you... removing is enough
May 21 09:56:07 <Deubeuliou> ok .... well, libtool-native won't build
May 21 09:56:40 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: IMO distro's shouldn't try too much to maintain old packages, if somebody needs it, he should either force authors to update or fork the program.
May 21 09:57:14 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, I tend to agree... something we should discuss in the core team
May 21 09:57:19 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: if users complain that they need it but don't do anything, then they don't need it. Simple as that. Imagine i needed SDL_mixer, so i managed to build it.
May 21 09:57:25 <mrmoku> how much effort to spend in fixing unmaintained packages
May 21 09:57:48 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, hmm... here I tend to disagree :P
May 21 09:58:01 <mrmoku> not all our users a as knowledged as you are
May 21 09:58:04 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: NOTE: package libsdl-mixer-1.2.6-r3: task do_build: completed
May 21 09:58:18 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: i have no knowledge whatsoever about autofoo.
May 21 09:58:38 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, but lots of experience in debugging and digging into stuff :)
May 21 09:59:24 <Deubeuliou> http://pastebin.com/d73d782c7
May 21 09:59:58 <mrmoku> #
May 21 09:59:59 <mrmoku> gzip: stdout: Broken pipe
May 21 10:00:11 <mrmoku> bad download?
May 21 10:01:06 <mrmoku> Deubeuliou, you might have to remove it from the downloads dir to make it download again...
May 21 10:02:19 <Deubeuliou> ok
May 21 10:04:46 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: One of the biggest problems with autofoo is that most program authors don't understand it themselves. I guess that it's distro maintainer who should be knowledgeable enough in that to be able to help.
May 21 10:05:31 <morphis> mrmoku: I have the same problem here, trying to restart the download
May 21 10:06:43 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: isn't there anybody in OE who is really into this stuff? Or probably nytowl knows enough of the magic tricks...
May 21 10:07:39 <viq> is there a way ti change imei on a freerunner?
May 21 10:09:08 <PaulFertser> viq: it's illegal in some countries, so you shouldn't ask that question.
May 21 10:09:39 <PaulFertser> viq: and no, i don't know how to do that.
May 21 10:09:41 <mrmoku> PaulFertser, I guess there is... don't know who
May 21 10:14:25 <viq> PaulFertser: thank you
May 21 10:15:42 <ptitjes> good morning
May 21 10:17:09 <ptitjes> arf I missed the question
May 21 10:17:18 <ptitjes> no fun
May 21 10:17:47 <Deubeuliou> hello Didier
May 21 10:17:50 <ptitjes> mrmoku: any success with Vala ?
May 21 10:17:55 <ptitjes> hello Defiant 
May 21 10:17:59 <ptitjes> arf
May 21 10:18:01 <Deubeuliou> ^^
May 21 10:18:01 <ptitjes> missed
May 21 10:18:06 <Defiant> !
May 21 10:18:09 <ptitjes> hello Deubeuliou 
May 21 10:18:14 <ptitjes> I'm just awake
May 21 10:18:21 <ptitjes> sorry Defiant 
May 21 10:18:24 <ptitjes> :)
May 21 10:18:24 <Defiant> np
May 21 10:21:13 <mrmoku> ptitjes, nop
May 21 10:21:26 <ptitjes> wow it makes years I did not have done any presentation...
May 21 10:21:27 <mrmoku> ptitjes, have to retry PaulFertser manual method...
May 21 10:21:36 <ptitjes> relink ?
May 21 10:21:46 <ptitjes> oki
May 21 10:22:05 <Ainulindale> *yawm*
May 21 10:22:09 <ptitjes> I must admit this is a bit frustrating...
May 21 10:22:10 <Ainulindale> s/wm/wn/
May 21 10:22:11 <bzzbot> Ainulindale meant: *yawn*
May 21 10:22:16 <ptitjes> héhéhé
May 21 10:22:41 <ptitjes> mrmoku: you have my full support
May 21 10:29:35 <mrmoku> ptitjes, right now I have to finish some other stuff...
May 21 10:32:16 <ptitjes> mrmoku: heh
May 21 10:32:27 <ptitjes> mrmoku: there is no problem
May 21 10:32:42 <ptitjes> mrmoku: I had done my recipes without too much expectations
May 21 10:35:02 <ptitjes> mrmoku: that's murphy's law :)
May 21 10:35:09 <ptitjes> striking again
May 21 10:38:13 <Deubeuliou> ptitjes: what is libmodulo ?
May 21 10:38:46 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: héhé
May 21 10:38:55 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: you'll see that at F9N :)
May 21 10:38:58 <Deubeuliou> ok :D
May 21 10:39:16 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: a container (in the sense it hosts components) that supports IOC
May 21 10:39:22 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: Inversion Of Control
May 21 10:40:14 <Deubeuliou> mmmh let me search for it
May 21 10:40:28 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: do you know Spring or Avalon ?
May 21 10:41:29 <Deubeuliou> nope
May 21 10:41:48 <Deubeuliou> I guess it's the kind of things I'll study next year
May 21 10:42:14 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: hum remind me what are your studies
May 21 10:42:47 <ptitjes> As I remember it IOC is not tought in French schools but this may have changed
May 21 10:43:25 <Deubeuliou> GRAWR !!!! libtool seems to be broken
May 21 10:43:35 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: IOC is a design principle
May 21 10:43:42 <Deubeuliou> I removed download/ and tmp/ and it still doesn't build
May 21 10:43:58 <Deubeuliou> I found the WP article
May 21 10:44:03 <ptitjes> Deubeuliou: what does it says
May 21 10:44:08 <ptitjes> WP ?
May 21 10:44:32 <ptitjes> wikipedia oki
May 21 10:44:40 <Deubeuliou> ^^
May 21 10:48:51 <md2k7> where is the ar6000 driver code is in the directory structure of "SHR Makefile" (is that a MokoMakefile)?
May 21 10:49:12 <md2k7> it should be in it, shouldn't it? in the kernel source, there is only an empty "wlan.h" in include/config
May 21 10:49:59 <md2k7> (don't expect me to fix it, I'm just interested)
May 21 10:51:24 <Fossi> some day this channels gonna be more crowded than #openmoko
May 21 11:03:34 <Weiss> md2k7: do you understand how OpenEmbedded works?
May 21 11:03:53 <md2k7> Weiss: I don't really look like it, do I?
May 21 11:03:59 <md2k7> Weiss: is there some tutorial?
May 21 11:04:36 <Weiss> i think the wiki page is up to date ish, at least to understand how it works
May 21 11:04:47 <Weiss> basically, it downloads the source for each component when you build
May 21 11:05:05 <Deubeuliou> could someone try to clean and re-build libtool-native please ?
May 21 11:05:22 <Weiss> if all you want is the source code for the driver, then just check out the kernel source from git
May 21 11:06:44 * md2k7 is reading OE wiki
May 21 11:13:10 <methril|work> good morning
May 21 11:18:17 <ptitjes> good morning methril|work 
May 21 11:18:30 <methril|work> well, more or less morning
May 21 11:18:37 <methril|work> now i've a small window :)
May 21 11:29:31 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #471 (fixes in audio .state files (latest unstable)) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/471#comment:1>
May 21 11:35:33 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #470 (shr settings power sliders) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/470#comment:1>
May 21 11:37:33 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #325 (Incorrect EST timezone data) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/325#comment:4>
May 21 11:42:09 <qknight> hey
May 21 11:42:23 <qknight> why is the settings dialog not designed with the MCV pattern?
May 21 11:42:53 <qknight> when i open a second one (showing the same settings) using the first one to change a value the other one isn't updated as well
May 21 11:42:58 <qknight> this is confusing
May 21 11:45:31 <PaulFertser> qknight: settings in what app?
May 21 11:48:32 <PaulFertser> Deubeuliou: I just did. Removed it from downloaded. Did bitbake -c clean libtool-native, then bitbake libtool-native.
May 21 11:48:36 <PaulFertser> Deubeuliou: it works here.
May 21 11:48:41 <PaulFertser> Deubeuliou: debug on your side
May 21 12:45:51 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #472 (shr-messages not showing SMS) created <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/472>
May 21 12:47:52 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #472 (shr-messages not showing SMS) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/472#comment:1>
May 21 12:49:52 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #418 (Wireless does not work with the 2.6.29 kernel does not work) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/418#comment:1>
May 21 12:59:31 <TAsn> dos1, I think you can safely close #257
May 21 12:59:33 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #65 (List of messages does not get updated on incoming message) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/65#comment:4>
May 21 12:59:38 <Deubeuliou> PaulFertser: ok it works now ... strange is that "find downloads -name "*libtool*"" doesn't find anything, while "find ../downloads -name "*libtool*"" does
May 21 12:59:48 <Deubeuliou> (and downloads is a link to ../downloads)
May 21 13:01:56 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #257 (sysfs "class" not working correctly on gta01) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/257#comment:3>
May 21 13:08:09 <CIA-75> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * r9dfe2a1fc508 10/shr-settings: [core] stop bouncing everywhere! :)
May 21 13:08:10 <dos1> mrmoku: can you build shr-settings? :)
May 21 13:09:07 <PaulFertser> dos1: Hey, was it you who broke HEAD of frameworkd?
May 21 13:09:32 <PaulFertser> dos1: http://rafb.net/p/uPP2fZ26.html
May 21 13:09:34 <dos1> PaulFertser: when?
May 21 13:09:37 <PaulFertser> dos1: any quick debugging hints?
May 21 13:10:26 <PaulFertser> dos1: i disabled opimd, i guess it's the best solution for now.
May 21 13:13:20 <dos1> PaulFertser: cat /var/log/frameworkd.log | grep opimd ?
May 21 13:13:28 <dos1> PaulFertser: that's something strange...
May 21 13:14:27 <PaulFertser> dos1: ERROR    SIM-Contacts-FSO: Could not request SIM phonebook from ogsmd : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freesmartphone.ogsmd was not provided by any .service files
May 21 13:14:45 <PaulFertser> dos1: dbus configuration again?
May 21 13:15:07 <dos1> PaulFertser: hmm... ok... it shouldn't happen, but i can fix it :P
May 21 13:16:39 <PaulFertser> dos1: probably you can help me with some more important stuff: this occures after frameworkd receives all smses from sim: http://rafb.net/p/OMrF0a81.html
May 21 13:17:35 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * raa601a6028ea 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py pimb_sim_messages_fso.py): opimd: SIM_*_FSO: fix possible tracebacks
May 21 13:18:23 <dos1> PaulFertser: heh.... looks like SMS parsing is problem not only for you (there was many tickets in SHR bugtracker about that)
May 21 13:18:35 <PaulFertser> dos1: i guess it's because i have some parts of short messages and not the other parts. and it tracebacks. :-/
May 21 13:18:51 <dos1> PaulFertser: but it's ogsmd SMS parsing magic, and i can't help :/
May 21 13:19:11 <PaulFertser> dos1: Ok, i'll try to comment it out for now.
May 21 13:19:15 <alphaone> PaulFertser: ogsmd doesn't care about incomplete CSM
May 21 13:19:24 <PaulFertser> alphaone: Hey :)
May 21 13:19:28 <alphaone> PaulFertser: hey :-)
May 21 13:19:33 <PaulFertser> alphaone: can you see http://rafb.net/p/OMrF0a81.html
May 21 13:19:40 <dos1> alphaone: looks like this problem is quite common. can you look at it?
May 21 13:19:46 <alphaone> PaulFertser: Can you try to isolate the offending PDU?
May 21 13:19:51 <alphaone> dos1: Will do
May 21 13:19:59 <dos1> ok :)
May 21 13:20:21 <PaulFertser> alphaone: how? It receives all the smses at once on start...
May 21 13:20:32 <alphaone> PaulFertser: oh
May 21 13:20:34 <alphaone> shit!
May 21 13:20:42 <alphaone> Wait a second, I think I know
May 21 13:21:32 <alphaone> yes
May 21 13:22:27 <alphaone>         if 8 in self.udh:
May 21 13:22:27 <alphaone>             # Concatenated shor messages (16-bit reference)
May 21 13:22:27 <alphaone>             map["csm_id"] = self.udh[0][0]*256 + self.udh[0][1]
May 21 13:22:27 <alphaone>             map["csm_num"] = self.udh[0][2]
May 21 13:22:27 <alphaone>             map["csm_seq"] = self.udh[0][3]
May 21 13:22:31 <PaulFertser> alphaone: it's cool even my poor bugreport helped ;)
May 21 13:22:36 <alphaone> This of course cannot work
May 21 13:22:50 <alphaone> typical copy and paste mistake..
May 21 13:23:00 <alphaone> from         if 0 in self.udh:
May 21 13:23:00 <alphaone>             # UDH for concatenated short messages is a list of ID,
May 21 13:23:00 <alphaone>             # total number of messages, position of message in csm
May 21 13:23:00 <alphaone>             map["csm_id"] = self.udh[0][0]
May 21 13:23:00 <alphaone>             map["csm_num"] = self.udh[0][1]
May 21 13:23:01 <alphaone>             map["csm_seq"] = self.udh[0][2]
May 21 13:24:04 <alphaone> I'll give the author a good spanking
May 21 13:25:02 <PaulFertser> alphaone: btw, you saw quite many various documentation, datasheets, standards etc. Why are all those GSM official documents so hard to understand?
May 21 13:26:35 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #363 (frameworkd tracebacks when using shr-messages) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/363#comment:13>
May 21 13:27:45 <alphaone> PaulFertser: Because they don't repeat information, ever
May 21 13:28:00 <alphaone> PaulFertser: They just reference the document that info appeared in first
May 21 13:29:28 <khiraly1> because if I understood hard, you should suck with it too
May 21 13:29:29 <khiraly1> ;)
May 21 13:31:13 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r9e57ae9682b6 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: ogsmd: Fix copy and paste error to also support CSM with 16 bit IDs
May 21 13:31:39 <alphaone> PaulFertser: Please retest
May 21 13:32:46 <alphaone> PaulFertser: this affected concatenated short messages with 16-bit failing to decode
May 21 13:32:47 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #363 (frameworkd tracebacks when using shr-messages) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/363#comment:14>
May 21 13:34:02 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #363 (frameworkd tracebacks when using shr-messages) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/363#comment:15>
May 21 13:34:51 <PaulFertser> alphaone: Thanks for the quick fix (now that i know it it's obvious of course ;) )
May 21 13:35:01 <alphaone> PaulFertser: np
May 21 13:35:07 <alphaone> PaulFertser: Did you test already?
May 21 13:35:09 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #458 (Don't execute critical applications as "root") updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/458#comment:2> || Ticket #469 (Alarm does not work after suspend/while in suspend) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/469#comment:2>
May 21 13:35:34 <PaulFertser> alphaone: testing atm
May 21 13:35:38 <alphaone> k
May 21 13:37:31 <PaulFertser> alphaone: sure it works :)
May 21 13:37:32 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #404 (ophonekitd crashes with ** WARNING **: error: TODO ...) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/404#comment:1> || Ticket #354 (Allow adding contact from incoming call or SMS) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/354#comment:3> || Ticket #408 (resolv.conf grows by two lines on each boot) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/408#comment:1> || Ticket #428 (WSOD after resume) upd
May 21 13:37:46 <alphaone> yay :-)
May 21 13:48:55 <mrmoku> dos1, hit the feed
May 21 13:49:56 <PaulFertser> dos1: thank you for the fix too!
May 21 13:49:57 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #339 (receiving an incoming call when already on line) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/339#comment:3>
May 21 13:50:13 <dos1> PaulFertser: no problem :)
May 21 13:51:22 <dos1> mrmoku: and now frameworkd please :D
May 21 13:57:04 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #111 (speakerphone volume too low) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/111#comment:1> || Ticket #435 (The default locale is again POSIX and not en_US.utf8) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/435#comment:1> || Ticket #443 (Automatic screen lock when suspending) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/443#comment:5>
May 21 13:58:10 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #463 (retrieve prefix codes automatically from SIM) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/463#comment:8> || Ticket #198 (Rewrite Illume GSM module) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/198#comment:8>
May 21 13:59:17 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #386 (opimd integration) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/386#comment:4> || Ticket #467 (Make disabling openning "New SMS" window configurable) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/467#comment:2>
May 21 13:59:49 <dos1> mrmoku: can you look at #318?
May 21 13:59:51 <dos1> (last comment)
May 21 14:02:11 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #440 (Problem with battery applet on gta01) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/440#comment:2>
May 21 14:04:12 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #318 (GetPowerStatus doesn't work on gta01) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/318#comment:6>
May 21 14:04:29 <dos1> http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/milestone/MS1
May 21 14:05:28 <mrmoku> dos1, not now :(
May 21 14:05:48 <mrmoku> (building index and syncing for frameworkd now)
May 21 14:05:51 <dos1> ok
May 21 14:40:48 <DocScrutinizer> loool, just received a SMS, deleted it, and after confir to delete it tells me "storage filled" warning :-P
May 21 14:42:20 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #42 (Illume gadget for handling profiles) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/42#comment:5>
May 21 14:44:41 <DocScrutinizer> WTF is up with shr-trac. wugbranler going to eject smoke. 
May 21 14:45:00 <DocScrutinizer> seems someone's rather busy there :)
May 21 14:45:32 <qknight> PaulFertser: settings dialog
May 21 14:45:36 <qknight> PaulFertser: on SHR
May 21 14:45:47 <DocScrutinizer> oooh
May 21 14:46:24 <DocScrutinizer> shouldn't he be on his way to F9N meanwhile?
May 21 14:46:46 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: who? ;p
May 21 14:46:57 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser
May 21 14:47:37 <DocScrutinizer> aaah no, he got a plane ticket
May 21 14:47:44 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: only I
May 21 14:47:52 <DocScrutinizer> max should travel bus meanwhile
May 21 14:47:52 <max_posedon> he travel by fly
May 21 14:48:00 <DocScrutinizer> hehe
May 21 14:48:26 <max_posedon> yes, I'm betwen poland and belarus now
May 21 14:48:44 <DocScrutinizer> cool, so roaming seems to work great
May 21 14:49:17 <max_posedon> no, it still iznt rouming, rouming will be in 0.5h
May 21 14:50:04 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: be warned, data roaming my be outrageously expensive
May 21 14:50:33 <DocScrutinizer> like hundereds of bucks per MB
May 21 14:50:58 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: yes, but i use only irc, also
May 21 14:51:23 <max_posedon> i didnt know how to connect to gprs in rouming
May 21 14:52:06 <DocScrutinizer> yes, gprs-roaming isn't grown up yet
May 21 14:52:14 <DocScrutinizer> luckily
May 21 14:52:46 <dos1> DocScrutinizer, max_posedon, Ainulindale, mrmoku, mickey|zzZZzz, alphaone|gone, PaulFertser, anyone else: i hope you will use hacking sessions on F9N as best as you can ;)
May 21 14:53:00 <dos1> to give us lot of stuff :)
May 21 14:53:03 <DocScrutinizer> though you might receive a config-sms, which is not processed by FR :-)
May 21 14:53:27 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: config smses in poland? ;x
May 21 14:53:36 <DocScrutinizer> dos1: I'm not a hacker (atm)
May 21 14:54:10 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: but i hope on F9N everyone will be! ;)
May 21 14:54:17 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: do you really belive that neo will receive them all?)
May 21 14:54:25 <Ainulindale> dos1: I intend to hack a DocScrutinizer bot
May 21 14:54:35 <Ainulindale> That is a bot that will whine that SHR doesn't do what it wants
May 21 14:54:38 <Ainulindale> Pretty easy!
May 21 14:54:46 <DocScrutinizer> Ainulindale: should be simple
May 21 14:54:47 <Ainulindale> :->
May 21 14:54:51 <dos1> ;)
May 21 14:55:41 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: sure they will be received if any are sent
May 21 14:56:23 <DocScrutinizer> but they get no special processing
May 21 14:56:37 <DocScrutinizer> IMHO
May 21 14:56:54 <DocScrutinizer> never tested, never looked into it
May 21 14:57:07 <max_posedon> we will see,)
May 21 14:57:40 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: hope you got cellhunter started ;-)
May 21 14:58:33 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: yes, im lucky that i have 2 battery
May 21 14:58:43 <DocScrutinizer> hehe
May 21 14:58:44 <max_posedon> 1 ended already
May 21 14:59:04 <max_posedon> and have in plans charge them from laptop)
May 21 14:59:14 <DocScrutinizer> don't you have a mains outlet in that junk bus?
May 21 14:59:39 <max_posedon> no
May 21 15:00:02 <max_posedon> in this dont, i have bus exchange in warsaw
May 21 15:00:12 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, probably russion brand, 30Y old ;-D
May 21 15:00:13 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #295 (No option for SMS return recept) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/295#comment:6>
May 21 15:01:00 <dos1> DocScrutinizer, max_posedon: in Warsaw it should be better.
May 21 15:01:01 <dos1> 25Y old ;)
May 21 15:01:21 <DocScrutinizer> well, maybe you have short stops somewhere. you may get 70% charge in 1h
May 21 15:01:45 <DocScrutinizer> with wallcharger
May 21 15:02:03 <max_posedon> dos1 I'll said you bad words about polandsbehavior, but later
May 21 15:02:30 <max_posedon> after 3h on border, im finally in EU!
May 21 15:02:40 <DocScrutinizer> wooohooo
May 21 15:02:59 <dos1> max_posedon: i'm not proud of behaviour of most polish people :P
May 21 15:03:14 <DocScrutinizer> you could have charged both bat to 100% ;-)
May 21 15:03:22 <soltys> dos1: not only you ;)
May 21 15:04:13 <DocScrutinizer> well seems a lot of people don't like their people. same here ;-D
May 21 15:05:21 <DocScrutinizer> french don't like anybody else, but french ;-D
May 21 15:06:22 <DocScrutinizer> but only parisiens, not province
May 21 15:06:33 <Ainulindale> DocScrutinizer: that's wrong :-p
May 21 15:06:41 <Ainulindale> (by the way I'm not from Paris)
May 21 15:07:02 <DocScrutinizer> in france everything except paris is province, according to French
May 21 15:07:22 <Ainulindale> according to people living in Paris you mean
May 21 15:08:31 <max_posedon> I can say that french love tourist, but germany people hate
May 21 15:10:04 <dos1> it's fun when you try to communicate in english in Paris :D
May 21 15:13:14 <wurp2|working> dos1: People were pretty anxious to communicate in english (those who could) once they heard my shitty French
May 21 15:20:02 <onen|openBmap> DocScrutinizer: max_posedon: :'-( why cellhunter, openBmap is much better :-P
May 21 15:20:53 <DocScrutinizer> onen|openBmap: oops, sorry. of course
May 21 15:21:50 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, being protective? ;]
May 21 15:21:54 <onen|openBmap> DocScrutinizer: don't forget to turn it on on your way to Essen ;-)
May 21 15:22:27 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: this is active marketing :-P
May 21 15:22:52 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, hehe ;]
May 21 15:23:17 <TAsn> also wanted to do that with my call recording app (active marketing)
May 21 15:23:27 <TAsn> because I really think it's WAY better than the alternative
May 21 15:23:38 <TAsn> so at least if not used, the alternative will improve
May 21 15:23:40 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: you have no idea of the time I spend here or there, just to explain why obm, and not ch. So I track down every quote about it, to repeat it, until head. I feel like a politician in a way (but I am not lying :P )
May 21 15:24:03 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, neither am I ;]
May 21 15:24:15 <TAsn> at least I hope he'll be smart enough to take my state files
May 21 15:24:18 <TAsn> because his sucks
May 21 15:24:19 <TAsn> ;\
May 21 15:24:19 <dos1> onen|openBmap: why openbmap is better than cellhunter?
May 21 15:24:19 <onen|openBmap> s/head/heard/
May 21 15:24:20 <bzzbot> onen|openBmap meant: TAsn: you have no idea of the time I spend here or there, just to explain why obm, and not ch. So I track down every quote about it, to repeat it, until heard. I feel like a politician in a way (but I am not lying :P )
May 21 15:24:20 <dos1> :D
May 21 15:25:18 <onen|openBmap> dos1:  :-D go logging, you instead of trying to make my blood boil :P
May 21 15:25:39 <dos1> onen|openBmap: hehe ;)
May 21 15:25:59 <TAsn> openbmap is gsm triangulation (and collecting data for that) software, right?
May 21 15:26:02 <onen|openBmap> I even bought an extra SIM card for the trip to Essen this weekend :-)
May 21 15:26:32 <TAsn> bah, I also want to come to ESSEN ;[
May 21 15:27:00 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: yes. but could grow. People gets interested in a logger of WiFi, and possibly Bluetooth
May 21 15:27:16 <mrmoku> TAsn, you could make it... if you depart NOW
May 21 15:27:28 <TAsn> mrmoku, I wish I could. ;[
May 21 15:27:42 <TAsn> mrmoku, it only starts tomorrow...
May 21 15:27:59 <TAsn> a flight from here to austria (is it austria?) is ~3hrs
May 21 15:28:09 <TAsn> I can make it if I fly tomorrow as well.
May 21 15:28:10 <TAsn> ;]
May 21 15:28:28 <mrmoku> though... austria would be quite the wrong region ;)
May 21 15:28:30 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: it's germany
May 21 15:28:33 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: and I have a prototype of dbus service for getting your gsm based location running on my FR, in order to show it in Essen. :-)
May 21 15:29:11 <onen|openBmap> DocScrutinizer: that's correct. only bavaria is not, right?
May 21 15:29:13 <TAsn> DocScrutinizer, mrmoku, practically the same ;]
May 21 15:29:31 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, have you considered asking for the db of other gsm cell logging softwares?
May 21 15:29:32 <DocScrutinizer> onen|openBmap: seen last c't article about gps-server-client
May 21 15:29:35 <DocScrutinizer> ?
May 21 15:29:56 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, for instant the symbian ones?
May 21 15:30:08 <TAsn> or maybe iphone ones?
May 21 15:30:21 <TAsn> I dunno what's out there, though I think I had a java app that did just that.
May 21 15:30:23 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: you bet we did. we even proposed to merge our project into opencellid. see ML archive to see the (absence) of response we got.
May 21 15:30:35 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, sucks ;[
May 21 15:30:48 <DocScrutinizer> onen|openBmap: I'm not bavaria, it's frankonia here :-D
May 21 15:31:04 <TAsn> DocScrutinizer, oh, you live near the CON?
May 21 15:31:19 <DocScrutinizer> nope
May 21 15:31:25 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: I am looking forward at the meeting this weekend. I am very happy to have face to face talks with many people to see how we could make things go further.
May 21 15:31:28 <onen|openBmap> DocScrutinizer: nope.
May 21 15:31:45 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, Hehe, good luck.
May 21 15:32:16 <TAsn> The thing I like most about talking with IRC people face to face, is that they can't use the "NICK: " convention. :)
May 21 15:32:56 <TAsn> (j/k, well anyhow, I'm off, ciao)
May 21 15:33:00 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: I'm at Nuremberg, F9N is Essen
May 21 15:33:03 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, I wish you good luck.
May 21 15:33:10 <onen|openBmap> DocScrutinizer: will you have the article with you?
May 21 15:33:22 <DocScrutinizer> onen|openBmap: np
May 21 15:33:24 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: the symbian ones (sorry I missed this one). what do you mean?
May 21 15:33:33 <TAsn> DocScrutinizer, Nuremberg is where the nazis held that meeting, isn't it?
May 21 15:33:43 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, I bet there are symbian apps that do that.
May 21 15:33:56 <onen|openBmap> DocScrutinizer: Nüremberg is very nice city to visit. I recommend it!
May 21 15:33:58 <DocScrutinizer> it's where the got hanged, yes
May 21 15:34:00 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, Which may not be open, but still hold a database.
May 21 15:34:35 <dos1> mrmoku:  * Cannot find package openbmap-logger.
May 21 15:34:42 <dos1> in shr-unstable
May 21 15:34:42 <TAsn> DocScrutinizer, my parents went there a month ago, they said it's a beautiful place, and a very nice place to visit
May 21 15:34:52 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: on the contrary I think there is not. like google, they try to make you use data connection, and thus pay for a new service. I send my gsm cell to the server, it gives me my location
May 21 15:35:01 <DocScrutinizer> nuernberg is the first place in the world to see international court
May 21 15:35:37 <Ainulindale> 116 packages to update, damn
May 21 15:35:38 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: and probably, symbian has not such a database, only operators, and google (thanks to their car running around for maps/streetview), to my knowledge
May 21 15:35:49 <TAsn> onen|openBmap, not symbian
May 21 15:35:56 <TAsn> but there are applications for symbian
May 21 15:36:00 <TAsn> that was I was talking about
May 21 15:36:12 <TAsn> I'm SURE I had an app that does that on my symbian
May 21 15:37:28 <TAsn> anyhow, I'm really off now.
May 21 15:37:46 <mrmoku> dos1, building it now
May 21 15:38:29 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: ok. This is of course possible. But usually the value is in the db. So I doubt they give it away for free. But to be honnest, I cannot contact every project. I even discovered a brand new one some weeks ago. just starting doing exactly same thing as everybody else !
May 21 15:38:49 <onen|openBmap> TAsn: bye
May 21 15:39:10 <onen|openBmap> dos1: aaaaahh. That's talking. ;-)
May 21 15:39:45 <dos1> onen|openBmap: hmm?
May 21 15:40:04 <onen|openBmap> dos1: happy to see you try to install openbmap ;-)
May 21 15:40:32 <dos1> onen|openBmap: hehe. it should be in repo, but it isn't as i can see
May 21 15:40:47 <onen|openBmap> dos1:  thanks for spotting this!
May 21 15:41:06 <dos1> onen|openBmap: no problem :)
May 21 15:41:10 <onen|openBmap> dos1: All the SHR users coming to Essen could not have logged without it :-)
May 21 15:48:59 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: no any sms'es
May 21 15:49:18 <DocScrutinizer> woohoo, but roaming!
May 21 15:49:26 <DocScrutinizer> :-)
May 21 15:49:38 <max_posedon> for gprs i needed connect with usual settings
May 21 15:49:50 <max_posedon> did you get my sms?
May 21 15:50:01 <DocScrutinizer> not yet
May 21 15:51:13 <max_posedon> strange i maked test call, all was fine
May 21 15:52:56 <CIA-75> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * rf8ff82bde5c8 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_battery.py: [battery] little changes in formatting
May 21 15:53:16 <DocScrutinizer> got no call either. +49911 or +49179
May 21 15:53:23 <DocScrutinizer> ?
May 21 15:54:06 <max_posedon> I called other person, not you
May 21 15:54:24 <max_posedon> ok, let test with you
May 21 15:55:38 <max_posedon> nice!
May 21 15:55:49 <max_posedon> but sound!)
May 21 15:56:30 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: to much noise
May 21 15:57:01 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, I heard you great
May 21 15:57:13 <DocScrutinizer> well, not you exactly
May 21 15:57:31 <DocScrutinizer> some mumbling all around :-)
May 21 15:58:11 <max_posedon> Do you want retest?) just one thing, how make sound not so lound?
May 21 15:59:04 <DocScrutinizer> no need to retest
May 21 16:00:27 <max_posedon> ok, tommorow Ill can at least chat with DocMobilezer
May 21 16:00:34 <max_posedon> )
May 21 16:01:01 <DocScrutinizer> sure
May 21 16:01:33 <DocScrutinizer> though you don't know if gprs roaming will work in D as well
May 21 16:02:03 <DocScrutinizer> again, be warned about roaming data fees
May 21 16:02:21 <max_posedon> it will, im sure)
May 21 16:02:23 <DocScrutinizer> might quickly become k-bucks
May 21 16:03:02 <DocScrutinizer> there's even been guys with bills like 20.000 EUR
May 21 16:06:51 <DocScrutinizer> sometimes they don't even charge for bytes but for minutes with some datatransfer, or simply being online. or they rund up each minute to a full 100k no matter how much data was transferred
May 21 16:07:04 <max_posedon> all is fine. I thonk 1mb enough for much time in irc, also traveling by bus borring withour]t irc
May 21 16:07:20 <max_posedon> ooh..
May 21 16:08:06 * md2k7 has flashed his GSM modem with Moko11 and it won't work
May 21 16:08:12 <md2k7> is this debuggable somehow?
May 21 16:08:14 <DocScrutinizer> as long as you have a prepaid, you're somewhat on the safe side of fence
May 21 16:08:42 <md2k7> (i.e. update seemed to work, but if you boot up the phone, it won't get a carrier)
May 21 16:08:50 <DocScrutinizer> md2k7: what's the exact meaning of "won't work"?
May 21 16:09:19 <DocScrutinizer> md2k7: please elaborate, so you may get help
May 21 16:09:38 <md2k7> DocScrutinizer: it won't get a carrier
May 21 16:09:48 <md2k7> it answers "ERROR" to many AT commands
May 21 16:09:49 <DocScrutinizer> what did you do, what was result?
May 21 16:10:15 <DocScrutinizer> ohh, so I think it's no issue of moko11 at all
May 21 16:10:25 <md2k7> I dl'ed the SD card image linked to by GSM/Flashing
May 21 16:10:39 <DocScrutinizer> either gsm modem answers, or it's broken completely
May 21 16:10:43 <md2k7> and put it into the phone
May 21 16:10:52 <md2k7> DocScrutinizer: what could it be then?
May 21 16:10:58 <DocScrutinizer> it finished with green?
May 21 16:11:14 <md2k7> yep, but there were some interesting artefacts before. it didn't work on the first try
May 21 16:11:26 <Deubeuliou> now I have the same problem as with libtool-native, but with libtool-cross ... and cleaning he files doens't help
May 21 16:11:29 <md2k7> error: btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb c7857b20 failed to resubmit (19)
May 21 16:11:30 <DocScrutinizer> that's normal
May 21 16:11:41 <md2k7> that was what I had
May 21 16:11:42 <Deubeuliou> thz gzip pipe breaks
May 21 16:11:42 <DocScrutinizer> nevermind
May 21 16:12:09 <Deubeuliou> http://pastebin.com/d1b531871
May 21 16:12:15 <DocScrutinizer> md2k7: your gsm is updated and ok. problem is elsewhere
May 21 16:12:33 <md2k7> DocScrutinizer: and what do you suggest to get more info? "ERROR" is not exactly verbose
May 21 16:12:55 <DocScrutinizer> sounds like wrong command
May 21 16:13:02 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: 20$/mb (checked my tarif plans)
May 21 16:13:09 <Deubeuliou> all other packages just build fine
May 21 16:13:43 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: so not exactly economic, but at least bearable
May 21 16:14:01 <DocScrutinizer> md2k7: who's telling ERROR?
May 21 16:14:17 <DocScrutinizer> did you try with mickeyterm?
May 21 16:14:22 <md2k7> I used mickeyterm and a PDF about AT commands
May 21 16:14:44 <DocScrutinizer> try AT+CGMR
May 21 16:14:51 <md2k7> sec, rebooting
May 21 16:15:33 <DocScrutinizer> and remember the annoying 8sec timeout, which swallows first command. 
May 21 16:16:27 <md2k7> yep, I figured that out
May 21 16:16:48 <DocScrutinizer> md2k7: always send AT<cr>ATcmd<cr>
May 21 16:17:04 <DocScrutinizer> or simply re-send same command twice
May 21 16:18:02 <DocScrutinizer> md2k7: a simple AT should give you a OK response
May 21 16:18:41 <DocScrutinizer> if this works, all further issues are most likely not related to gsm-fw
May 21 16:19:13 <md2k7> +CGMR: "GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko11"
May 21 16:19:16 <md2k7> works
May 21 16:19:40 <DocScrutinizer> a lot of cmds are not allowed until you registered with carrier
May 21 16:19:54 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer: yes, I estimating 2$/per neo battery)
May 21 16:20:06 <DocScrutinizer> hehe
May 21 16:20:35 <md2k7> DocScrutinizer: now after reboot, I don't get to X anymore :(
May 21 16:20:43 <md2k7> but the GSM is OK now
May 21 16:20:54 <md2k7> it responds to AT+CPAS, which it didn't before
May 21 16:21:36 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, no gsm issue. check your rootfs, try find out about idiosyncrasies of your distro
May 21 16:22:07 <md2k7> yep, that's easier (esp. because SSH still works, luckily :-)
May 21 16:23:56 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r5b859279369d 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: opimd: SIM_Contacts_FSO: indicate possibly truncated field values
May 21 16:23:57 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * ra154ca24646f 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: opimd: SIM_Contacts_FSO: provide _backend_entry_id as int
May 21 16:26:50 <max_posedon> btw, with agps much better than without, 11/9 instead 11/6 (in bus moving 100km)
May 21 16:28:40 <DocScrutinizer> amazing
May 21 16:31:18 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r995bbdd4f630 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_contacts.py: opimd: SQLite_Contacts: provide _backend_entry_id as int
May 21 16:37:19 <dos1> heh
May 21 16:37:23 <dos1> reboot doesn't work with Qi
May 21 16:45:30 <dos1> TAsn: after your rtl modifications x11-16 engine segfaults :(
May 21 16:45:56 <TAsn> hm.. sec, let me check.
May 21 16:46:58 <TAsn> should not happen, got any debug info?
May 21 16:47:06 <TAsn> dos1, btw, those mods are upstream
May 21 16:47:15 <TAsn> I mean, they are committed in e
May 21 16:48:17 <TAsn> the patches are just bumping efl only in the rtl area ;]
May 21 16:49:54 <TAsn> ok dos1, found the fault
May 21 16:50:02 <dos1> TAsn: fine :)
May 21 16:50:04 <TAsn> will patch and ask mrmoku rebuild asap ;]
May 21 16:50:18 <dos1> TAsn: x11-16 is really faster
May 21 16:50:24 <TAsn> dos1,  (I didn't patch the software_16 engine)
May 21 16:50:24 <dos1> and i don't care about uglyness
May 21 16:50:30 <TAsn> hehe, ok.
May 21 16:51:05 <TAsn> sorry btw :)
May 21 16:52:29 <khiraly1> me neither;)
May 21 17:15:27 <Gnutoo> hi, what's the fastest SIP client for the openmoko?
May 21 17:15:45 <Gnutoo> s/for the openmoko/that would run on the openmoko
May 21 17:16:01 <Gnutoo> we have ekiga in openembedded but I wonder how fast it is
May 21 17:16:05 <Gnutoo> we have linphone
May 21 17:16:25 <lindi-> Gnutoo: linphone works quite ok
May 21 17:16:30 <Gnutoo> ok
May 21 17:16:33 <lindi-> Gnutoo: you can even use the non-gui version to save memory
May 21 17:16:37 <Gnutoo> ok thanks
May 21 17:16:54 <lindi-> Gnutoo: the echo cancellation consumes too much cpu time though, don't enable that
May 21 17:16:59 <Gnutoo> ouch...
May 21 17:17:08 <lindi-> it's off by default i think
May 21 17:17:12 <Gnutoo> could echo cancelation be enabled on asterisk?
May 21 17:17:16 <Gnutoo> ok thanks
May 21 17:17:33 <lindi-> not sure, usually you want to do it as near the microphone as possible
May 21 17:17:53 <Gnutoo> ok
May 21 17:18:02 <Gnutoo> because I've an asterisk server
May 21 17:19:12 <Gnutoo> thanks a lot
May 21 17:27:50 <dos1> have you seen http://cofundos.org/project.php?id=153 ?
May 21 17:31:03 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07cornucopia * r57f889915711 10/fsonetworkd/configure.ac: Fix package name in configure.ac (Oops)
May 21 17:39:54 <eliasp> hi
May 21 17:45:08 <eliasp> just put the latest SHR on my FR but have trouble now getting WiFi working... i have now this in /etc/network/interfaces: http://dpaste.com/46381/ but restarting networking gives me this: http://dpaste.com/46383/
May 21 17:45:59 <eliasp> could anyone nopaste me a working interfaces file + a wpa_supplicant.conf (without your passwords/networks ;-) )?
May 21 17:46:36 <dos1> eliasp: i'm not using /etc/network/interfaces now
May 21 17:46:48 <eliasp> dos1: how do you handle WiFi?
May 21 17:46:50 <dos1> eliasp: in shr-settings git repo is wifiman.py - wifi manager based on connman
May 21 17:47:19 <dos1> eliasp: i want to integrate it with shr-settings when i finish it
May 21 17:47:39 <eliasp> dos1: uhm, ok.. getting this to the phone without network could get a little hard... 
May 21 17:47:43 <eliasp> i could transfer this via the µSD card to the FR..... ;-)
May 21 17:47:49 <eliasp> thx for this hint
May 21 17:52:43 <TAsn> dos1, it seems that the fix is already upstream
May 21 17:52:50 <TAsn> sec, will test the local build
May 21 17:52:55 <TAsn> if it works will commit to overlay
May 21 17:53:08 <TAsn> (fixed that locally before)
May 21 17:53:11 <dos1> eliasp: can you use usb networking?
May 21 17:53:15 <dos1> s/can/can't/
May 21 17:53:17 <bzzbot> dos1 meant: eliasp: can't you use usb networking?
May 21 17:56:47 <eliasp> dos1: a little tricky here, because my laptop which I use to connect to the phone via USB has trouble with iptables ;-(
May 21 17:57:11 <eliasp> but doing it via the µSD card should be the most easy way now....
May 21 18:01:32 <eliasp> uhm, sometimes i feel quite stupid... i could transfer wifiman.py via scp to the phone ... ;-)
May 21 18:01:42 <TAsn> dos1, I think I patched a correct fix
May 21 18:01:44 <eliasp> when SSH works, SCP works too.. ;-)
May 21 18:01:46 <CIA-75> SHR: 03tom 07shr-overlay * r2d423df49802 10/patches/efl1/0001-rtl-support-evas-edje.patch: evas patch, fixed the software_16 segfault
May 21 18:01:48 <TAsn> can't test atm though
May 21 18:01:57 <TAsn> :)
May 21 18:02:02 <TAsn> oh oops
May 21 18:02:03 <TAsn> sec
May 21 18:02:06 <dos1> mrmoku: rebuild!!!
May 21 18:02:10 <TAsn> sec
May 21 18:02:13 <dos1> or don't rebuild...
May 21 18:02:13 <dos1> ;D
May 21 18:03:11 <TAsn> dos1, ok.
May 21 18:03:22 <CIA-75> SHR: 03tom 07shr-overlay * re113aac23e69 10/patches/efl1/0001-rtl-support-evas-edje.patch: now also fixed to the correct patch...
May 21 18:03:23 <TAsn> tell me how it went ;)
May 21 18:03:25 <DocScrutinizer> eliasp: sftp works as well, even via e.g. konqueror. very easy
May 21 18:04:17 <TAsn> dos1, sorry for my mistake, I assumed that the software_16 engine inherits from software_generic like all the others do ;)
May 21 18:04:26 <TAsn> anyway, never make assumptions. :)
May 21 18:04:32 <TAsn> we should probably bump efl soon.
May 21 18:04:39 <TAsn> reached to rev 2.5 already :)
May 21 18:05:58 <eliasp> DocScrutinizer: yes... have wifiman.py now on my FR... but it tells me it couldn't reach connman... seems i need some more components
May 21 18:06:53 <dos1> eliasp: yep, connman and connman-plugin-wifi should be installed
May 21 18:07:00 <dos1> (why it isn't as default?)
May 21 18:07:25 <DocScrutinizer> dos1: you're asking ME ??
May 21 18:07:49 <dos1> hmm?
May 21 18:07:57 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: it was eliasp, who asked you
May 21 18:08:03 <dos1> but i think he means me ;D
May 21 18:08:13 <eliasp> ;-)
May 21 18:08:24 <DocScrutinizer> [20:07] <dos1> (why it isn't as default?)
May 21 18:08:39 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: do you see "DocScrutinizer:" there? :x
May 21 18:09:09 <eliasp> hmm.. there's only connmand available... is connman and connman-plugin-wifi in any of the git repos? or available via opkg?
May 21 18:09:42 <dos1> eliasp: connmand is what you want
May 21 18:09:42 <dos1> ;)
May 21 18:09:51 <eliasp> ok, so i just have to start the daemon....
May 21 18:10:11 <eliasp> yay, looks better now ;-)
May 21 18:10:33 <dos1> eliasp: but it doesn't handle routes well at the moment
May 21 18:10:38 <eliasp> hmm... but the wifiman.py window is now just white... no buttons or anything else there....
May 21 18:10:54 <dos1> eliasp: opkg list_installed | grep connman
May 21 18:11:01 <eliasp> ah, WiFi is probably still disabled....
May 21 18:11:05 <dos1> ;D
May 21 18:11:13 <dos1> enable it in shr-settings
May 21 18:11:18 <eliasp> yes ;)
May 21 18:11:18 <dos1> then run wifiman.py again
May 21 18:12:16 <eliasp> ok, way better now... going to reset now networking/interfaces to the default values...
May 21 18:13:52 <eliasp> hmm, do i really have to type the passphrase blindly? there's no input field... it just tells me "Type the passphrase here:"
May 21 18:14:23 <dos1> eliasp: that is input field
May 21 18:14:24 <dos1> :P
May 21 18:14:33 <dos1> eliasp: without ":"
May 21 18:14:41 <eliasp> uh, ok ;-) looked like a usual widget ;-)
May 21 18:14:43 <dos1> eliasp: just delete that "type the..."
May 21 18:15:09 <eliasp> yes ;)
May 21 18:17:26 <mrmoku> dos1, what exactly? (rebuild)
May 21 18:17:47 <dos1> TAsn: ^^^ ?
May 21 18:18:06 <TAsn> what did I break?
May 21 18:18:19 <mrmoku> evas as always...
May 21 18:18:26 <TAsn> oh
May 21 18:18:29 <TAsn> yeah, build it ;)
May 21 18:18:37 <TAsn> mrmoku, well, the fixed patch is already upstream
May 21 18:18:51 <TAsn> it's just that our srcrev bumping is slow...
May 21 18:19:00 <mrmoku> no... I don't want to update EFL_SRCREV now :P
May 21 18:19:11 <mrmoku> having enough build problems
May 21 18:19:15 <TAsn> mrmoku, no need
May 21 18:19:19 <TAsn> I updated the patch.
May 21 18:19:23 <mrmoku> yep
May 21 18:19:41 <mrmoku> and I'm building it now... to let dos1 check what you broke ;)
May 21 18:21:16 <TAsn> I never break, I just improved and don't fix the faults generated with my fix :)
May 21 18:22:04 <TAsn> s/improved/improve/
May 21 18:22:05 <bzzbot> TAsn meant: I never break, I just improve and don't fix the faults generated with my fix :)
May 21 18:22:22 <eliasp> hmm, how do i reboot SHR via GUI? pressing the power button just shows a 1px wide line in the middle of the screen with some random colors in it...
May 21 18:22:42 <eliasp> ah, pushing the power button a little longer helped ;)
May 21 18:33:03 <dos1> eliasp: you really should do "opkg update; opkg upgrade" :P
May 21 18:33:11 <dos1> eliasp: as image is really ooooold
May 21 18:33:22 <dos1> eliasp: and i hope you are using unstable, not testing
May 21 18:33:39 <dos1> which is even oooooooldeeeeeeeeeer
May 21 18:34:18 <eliasp> uhm, i used shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 .. is this unstable or testing?
May 21 18:34:43 <eliasp> but i'll do an opkg update/ugrade anyways ;-)
May 21 18:34:59 <dos1> eliasp: it's just shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 :P
May 21 18:35:20 <dos1> eliasp: have you downloaded it from shr-testing or shr-unstable folder?
May 21 18:35:33 * eliasp takes a look at his bash history ...
May 21 18:35:49 <eliasp> ah, ok.. it was testing ;-)
May 21 18:35:57 <eliasp> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2
May 21 18:36:31 <dos1> using testing is only good for ~2 weeks after migrating unstable->testing...
May 21 18:36:52 <Ainulindale> Deubeuliou?
May 21 18:36:59 <dos1> good that we're working on having -testing useful ;P
May 21 18:37:20 <eliasp> ok, so i should better re-flash using -unstable ...
May 21 18:40:28 <mrmoku> which reminds me that I would like to have testing/unstable in the name of the image...
May 21 18:40:57 <mrmoku> it should be called shr-testing-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2....
May 21 18:41:07 <Deubeuliou> Ainulindale: pong
May 21 18:41:12 <mrmoku> (not everybody has a bash_history to look that up :)
May 21 18:41:27 <TAsn> dos1, does it work?
May 21 18:41:53 <mrmoku> TAsn, btw... what influence has your evas twidling on python-evas?
May 21 18:42:03 <TAsn> none
May 21 18:42:07 <TAsn> my changes are internal
May 21 18:42:10 <mrmoku> good :)
May 21 18:42:14 <TAsn> why?
May 21 18:42:26 <TAsn> I mean, the changes are the same as with any C program using evas
May 21 18:42:36 <mrmoku> because there were problems with some package using python-evas...
May 21 18:42:37 <TAsn> nothing on python specifically.
May 21 18:42:41 <mrmoku> unrelated then :)
May 21 18:42:55 <TAsn> may be related... :)
May 21 18:43:14 <TAsn> actually I had a none internal change actually, added a function to headers
May 21 18:43:38 <Ainulindale> Deubeuliou: is everything ok for bearstech/streaming?
May 21 18:43:47 <TAsn> mrmoku, just to be on the safe side, try recompiling evas and python-evas, if that pack still breaks, it's not related
May 21 18:43:57 <TAsn> I only added and modified internal structures
May 21 18:44:05 <TAsn> and added a function to Evas.h and the lib in general
May 21 18:44:46 <Deubeuliou> Ainulindale: I'll ask
May 21 18:44:46 <mrmoku> TAsn, I rebuilt python-evas after evas... built fine
May 21 18:44:54 <TAsn> should build fine
May 21 18:44:58 <TAsn> I only did internal changes
May 21 18:45:15 <TAsn> actually you even didn't have to rebuild python-evas, I think.
May 21 18:45:17 <mrmoku> Deubeuliou, my wife is already asking for the link :P
May 21 18:45:23 <Deubeuliou> :)
May 21 18:45:32 <Deubeuliou> I don't even know what it is yet
May 21 18:45:52 <TAsn> mrmoku, what link?
May 21 18:45:55 <Deubeuliou> I have no clue
May 21 18:45:58 <Deubeuliou> for the vids
May 21 18:46:04 <Deubeuliou> the streaming
May 21 18:46:06 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: to ensure you're not with your mistress?
May 21 18:46:19 <mrmoku> TAsn, FSOSHRUDCON'09 video stream ;)
May 21 18:46:26 * Deubeuliou still wasn't able to build his Dialer :(
May 21 18:46:27 <mrmoku> the one you don't want to be seen in :P
May 21 18:46:35 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, hehe, maybe :)
May 21 18:46:55 <TAsn> :)
May 21 18:47:01 <Deubeuliou> maybe his mistress actually is a geekette
May 21 18:47:13 <Deubeuliou> and will be attending the f9n
May 21 18:47:31 <dos1> yay
May 21 18:47:34 <dos1> TAsn: it works :)
May 21 18:48:03 <TAsn> dos1, :)
May 21 18:48:05 <Deubeuliou> @anybody: could you try building libtool-cross (after a -c clean libtool-cross) ?
May 21 18:48:27 * DocScrutinizer humbly annotating he won't appear on any video
May 21 18:48:34 <TAsn> dos1, sorry for the bug btw.
May 21 18:49:28 <TAsn> dos1, when I switch to the software_16 engine I have to restart evas, right?
May 21 18:49:41 <TAsn> *e
May 21 18:50:00 <dos1> TAsn: yep
May 21 18:50:21 <TAsn> and that of course will break ophonekitd
May 21 18:50:22 <TAsn> bah.
May 21 18:50:23 <DocScrutinizer> bt then there's not any talk held by me, so no problem I guess
May 21 18:50:23 <TAsn> sucks.
May 21 18:50:50 <TAsn> shit, forgot to opkg upgrade before :)
May 21 18:51:03 <dos1> thaaaaanks
May 21 18:51:06 <dos1> much better :)
May 21 18:51:43 <TAsn> btw I have a question concerning opimd
May 21 18:51:47 <TAsn> and phonegui-efl2
May 21 18:51:52 <TAsn> when I change to those
May 21 18:51:59 <TAsn> what happens to my current contacts
May 21 18:52:05 <TAsn> and what happens to the newly generated ones?
May 21 18:52:19 <TAsn> and does it support importing from vcf?
May 21 18:52:53 <dos1> currect contacts - nothing. they are still there.
May 21 18:53:08 <dos1> newly generated - on SIM, in CSV file or in SQLite database
May 21 18:53:10 <TAsn> is there a way to disable a backend?
May 21 18:53:11 <dos1> depending on default backend
May 21 18:53:19 <TAsn> dos1, configurable?
May 21 18:53:22 <dos1> importing - if you write script - yes
May 21 18:53:25 <dos1> TAsn: in shr-settings :P
May 21 18:53:32 <TAsn> dos1, hehe, you rule.
May 21 18:53:36 <TAsn> thinking one step ahead ;)
May 21 18:53:44 <dos1> under "Others" button
May 21 18:53:55 <TAsn> sweet
May 21 18:53:55 <dos1> but it's buggy (shr-settings module)
May 21 18:54:02 <DocScrutinizer> vcf :-D hey, I've been told I need to code that myself
May 21 18:54:05 <TAsn> so in general, you suggest moving to efl 2?
May 21 18:54:11 <TAsn> DocScrutinizer, then please do, and share :)
May 21 18:54:13 <TAsn> hehe.
May 21 18:54:16 <dos1> if you select default backend
May 21 18:54:26 <dos1> it isn't updated in gui
May 21 18:54:36 <TAsn> oh, I don't mind
May 21 18:55:14 <TAsn> dos1, antialiasing isn't that good with software_16, right?
May 21 18:55:28 <Deubeuliou> please, can anyone tell me whether libtool-cross is successfully built with bitbake or not ?
May 21 18:55:42 <dos1> TAsn: everything is ugly :P
May 21 18:55:44 <TAsn> you can definitely see the effect on the gradient coloring
May 21 18:55:55 <dos1> TAsn: but a loooooooot faster
May 21 18:56:06 <TAsn> yeah, noticed
May 21 18:56:09 <TAsn> (the shelf)
May 21 18:56:13 <TAsn> anything else?
May 21 18:56:27 <Deubeuliou> I had troubles with libtool but they were gone after a cleanup, but now I have the same problemwith -cross, and it doesn't get  fixed
May 21 18:57:36 <TAsn> dos1, where did you notice the changes at?
May 21 18:58:04 <dos1> TAsn: about speed?
May 21 18:58:07 <TAsn> yeah
May 21 18:58:17 <TAsn> I mean, what are the main advantage points?
May 21 18:58:21 <dos1> TAsn: scrolling, redrawing window...
May 21 18:58:36 <dos1> TAsn: SHR settings is LOT faster with x11-16
May 21 18:58:44 <TAsn> it only applies to e windows, so I wonder how fast can it get.
May 21 18:58:48 <TAsn> I c.
May 21 18:59:14 <dos1> keyboard
May 21 18:59:23 <TAsn> oh, that could have a big effect, right.
May 21 18:59:35 <TAsn> hm.. all and all, desktop scrolling is still terribly slow
May 21 18:59:40 <TAsn> gotta find a way to improve that
May 21 19:01:22 <TAsn> dos1, wow, really faster
May 21 19:01:34 <TAsn> I think we have to consider switching to x11-16
May 21 19:02:54 <TAsn> dos1, what do you think?
May 21 19:03:29 <dos1> TAsn: we should have our e/elementary theme, which looks good on x11-16
May 21 19:03:55 <TAsn> what's our elementary theme?
May 21 19:03:57 <TAsn> scap?
May 21 19:04:21 <dos1> TAsn: we don't have our elementary theme :P
May 21 19:04:31 <TAsn> what are the differences?
May 21 19:04:37 <dos1> we're using default one :P
May 21 19:04:51 <TAsn> dos1, oh, you want to create a new one?
May 21 19:05:04 <dos1> TAsn: no. i just said that we should create a new one ;)
May 21 19:05:15 <TAsn> oh, this one looks good enough in my pov.
May 21 19:05:31 <TAsn> furthermore, I don't have the powers within me to create a new matching gtk theme. ;)
May 21 19:05:45 <TAsn> anyhow, this does work A LOT better.
May 21 19:05:54 <TAsn> I'll talk about in the ML soon
May 21 19:07:01 <TAsn> it in*
May 21 19:07:13 <TAsn> btw dos1 the shr-settings opimd module is nice :)
May 21 19:07:16 <spaetz> raster claims that it is buggy though and will crash randomly
May 21 19:07:34 <spaetz> but if it works, it is way faster
May 21 19:07:42 <TAsn> ok, so I won't talk about it in the ML. :)
May 21 19:08:16 <spaetz> try it a couple of days and see if it works. then talk. I am for making it the default if it makes things faster :)
May 21 19:08:20 <dos1> it crash for me only when i try to enter to some complicated illume wrench window :P
May 21 19:08:40 <dos1> spaetz: i'm using x11-16 every day for ~ month
May 21 19:08:45 <dos1> spaetz: and i'm happy with that ;)
May 21 19:08:46 <TAsn> dos1, if you can install debug packages
May 21 19:08:54 <TAsn> and provide a trace
May 21 19:08:59 <TAsn> and a bug report
May 21 19:09:13 <TAsn> I believe I/someone else will be able to provide a fix
May 21 19:09:20 <dos1> ok
May 21 19:09:22 <dos1> but not now
May 21 19:09:27 <TAsn> dos1, don't worry
May 21 19:09:31 <TAsn> I also don't have time atm
May 21 19:09:44 <TAsn> I really do prefer you finish doing opimd before fixing evas :)
May 21 19:12:14 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #463 (retrieve prefix codes automatically from SIM) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/463#comment:9>
May 21 19:12:34 <spaetz> dos1: cool
May 21 19:13:15 <spaetz> so how do I set it to use x11-16 for everything? setting the env var in .bash_profile or something?
May 21 19:17:02 <dos1> spaetz: ELM_ENGINE = x11-16
May 21 19:17:08 <dos1> i have it in /etc/profile
May 21 19:17:22 <dos1> and in "export " line ELM_ENGINE at the end
May 21 19:21:42 <spaetz> ok, thanks. will use that too
May 21 19:26:05 <TAsn> dos1, huh?
May 21 19:26:11 <TAsn> just select in the illume menu
May 21 19:26:17 <TAsn> and can probably change that in config
May 21 19:26:20 <TAsn> *illume settings
May 21 19:26:21 <dos1> TAsn: huh?
May 21 19:26:33 <dos1> TAsn: then it doesn't have influence on elementary apps
May 21 19:26:38 <TAsn> are you sure?
May 21 19:26:39 <dos1> TAsn: only enlightenment/illume
May 21 19:26:49 <dos1> TAsn: yes, i'm sure
May 21 19:26:54 <TAsn> cool.
May 21 19:26:55 <TAsn> okie.
May 21 19:26:56 <TAsn> :)
May 21 19:27:09 <dos1> TAsn: or maybe things changed ;x
May 21 19:27:36 <TAsn> nah, I think you are probably right.
May 21 19:31:11 <mrmoku> viq, ping
May 21 19:32:11 <mrmoku> viq, IIRC it was you having problems with ffalarms and omoney?
May 21 19:32:17 <mrmoku> if so... try to update
May 21 19:32:20 <mrmoku> rebuilt both
May 21 19:33:28 <mrmoku> opkg update; opkg -force-reinstall install ffalarms
May 21 19:36:37 <Gnutoo> hi, I've bitbaken linphonec but is there an up to date howto on how to use it(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone isn't up to date) with SHR? I've sound problem...the sound is hashed
May 21 19:37:16 <Gnutoo> ah ok I need a more recent speex
May 21 19:37:20 <Gnutoo> (ortp-error-Could not set vbr mode to speex encoder. )
May 21 19:38:17 <Ainulindale> mrmoku?
May 21 19:38:24 <Ainulindale> Did you install openbmap-logger? :-)
May 21 19:39:33 <viq> mrmoku: yes, that was me
May 21 19:39:57 <viq> upgrading now
May 21 19:39:58 <dos1> mrmoku: does ffalarms work for you?
May 21 19:40:00 <Ainulindale> (meanwhile, I'm rebuilding my gentoo hoping it'll work)
May 21 19:42:41 <mrmoku> dos1, did not try now
May 21 19:42:49 <mrmoku> dos1, tried it some time ago... and I like it
May 21 19:42:51 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, yep
May 21 19:43:02 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: good :-p
May 21 19:43:13 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: we'll have three phones with onen|openBmap, three different providers
May 21 19:43:59 <mrmoku> happy cell logging then :)
May 21 19:44:12 <Ainulindale> indeed
May 21 19:44:19 <Ainulindale> I'm late with my presentations though for the time being
May 21 19:44:29 <Ainulindale> I should write some stuff, draw more stuff
May 21 19:45:03 <Ainulindale> any news from raster?
May 21 19:45:06 <spaetz> have fun in Essen
May 21 19:45:12 <mrmoku> hehe, I'm busy hacking something together too... I want some opinion on
May 21 19:45:21 <Ainulindale> spaetz: peh, you should be shot for desertion
May 21 19:45:44 <mrmoku> would be too easy... just shooting him ;)
May 21 19:45:47 <Ainulindale> Well yes
May 21 19:45:58 <Ainulindale> He thinks that just because he has a family his priorities are not SHR
May 21 19:45:59 <spaetz> hehe
May 21 19:46:01 <Ainulindale> What a bad excuse
May 21 19:46:13 <mrmoku> we should assign him all tickets... and give him one week to fix them :P
May 21 19:46:20 <spaetz> mmh, spent all day with my 1 year old in the zoo... fun
May 21 19:46:27 <mrmoku> :)
May 21 19:46:29 <spaetz> didn't even have my moko with me
May 21 19:47:13 <spaetz> I really need to get someone to do a buzz fix for me.
May 21 19:47:30 <spaetz> People complain :). anyway off for today. Have fun
May 21 19:47:52 <mrmoku> thanks
May 21 19:48:34 <spaetz> Ainulindale: btw, rebuilding from scratch, I am agains stuck at gtk+. WIll investigate. I can't do anything without build env
May 21 19:49:50 <ptitjes> ~raster
May 21 19:50:03 <ptitjes> ~seen raster
May 21 19:50:03 <bzzbot> raster <n=raster@enlightenment/developer/raster> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 2d 5h 45m 51s ago, saying: 'thats how i generated he pointercal data for my palmt650 as its calibration was also totally off until i added a pointercal file to OE for it'.
May 21 19:50:08 <TAsn> spaetz, it's probably because of evas, ask mrmoku he'll probably pin that on evas and me.
May 21 19:50:42 <mrmoku> TAsn, evas makes gtk+ not build?
May 21 19:50:44 <Deubeuliou> weird wifi card ... I was wondering why bitbake coulnd't resolve "svn.openmoko.org"... the wifi module just died ...
May 21 19:50:59 <TAsn> meh.
May 21 19:50:59 <TAsn> mrmoku, I was just joking.
May 21 19:51:10 <TAsn> because you pin everything on evas and me ;)
May 21 19:51:26 <mrmoku> nah... not true... most things I pin on dos1 ;)
May 21 19:52:03 <dos1> true
May 21 19:52:04 <dos1> ;D
May 21 19:52:17 <Deubeuliou> OK, this is definitely running on my nerves: I removed the content of both downloads/ and tmp/ and libtool-native doesn't build, now
May 21 19:52:26 <Deubeuliou> while it did before
May 21 19:52:34 <TAsn> ok, spaetz, so that's probably an opimd issue. ;\ ask mrmoku ...
May 21 19:55:06 <mrmoku> hehe
May 21 19:55:12 <onen|openBmap> Ainulindale: mrmoku: nice, people start making lobbying in place of me :-)
May 21 19:55:28 <mrmoku> spaetz, don't listen to him... it comes from his rtl patches... it's trying to compile gtk+ from right to left :P
May 21 19:56:58 <Deubeuliou> spaetz: you are experiencing troubles with bitbake too ?
May 21 19:57:17 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: I am very much curious, how many cells all the people travelling to Essen will bring to openBmap :-)
May 21 19:57:47 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, could be quite a lot...
May 21 19:59:30 <TAsn> but none will be from israel :(
May 21 20:02:01 <mirko-meeting> hej anyone got pics of the serenity theme ?
May 21 20:03:29 <viq> mrmoku: did upgrade, reinstalled ffalarms, same thing
May 21 20:04:31 <mrmoku> hmm... bad thing :(
May 21 20:05:03 <viq> $someone said that omoney will need to be modified to use the new $something, maybe ffalarms too?
May 21 20:06:01 <spaetz> hehe
May 21 20:06:23 <TAsn> viq, wow, that's probably one of the most cryptic messages I have ever seen on IRC :)
May 21 20:06:50 <Gnutoo> hi I have: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:805:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream in linphonec
May 21 20:06:53 <viq> At your service ;)
May 21 20:06:54 <Gnutoo> in SHR-unstable
May 21 20:06:58 <Gnutoo> what should I do?
May 21 20:07:16 <Gnutoo> I've done that: alsactl -f voip-handset.state restore
May 21 20:07:22 <Gnutoo> and still...
May 21 20:08:00 <viq> env: $someone=bumbl $something=elementary
May 21 20:08:03 <spaetz> I googled my gtk+ error and it seems to be "This seems to be a libtool bug related to locale handling.
May 21 20:08:12 <spaetz> ", so I blame it on mrmoku :)
May 21 20:08:19 <spaetz> he's the libtool guy :)
May 21 20:08:44 <Gnutoo> sigh
May 21 20:08:57 <spaetz> doing it with LANG=C apparently makes it compile.
May 21 20:09:22 <Gnutoo> is there someone that has voip working?
May 21 20:09:59 <Defiant> Gnutoo: linphone on debian worked fine for me
May 21 20:10:18 <Gnutoo> Defiant, should you recompile linphonec when you recompile speex?
May 21 20:10:43 <Defiant> Gnutoo: sorry no idea since I used the binary package
May 21 20:10:45 <Gnutoo> Defiant, I'm on SHR and I just bitbaken linphonec
May 21 20:10:53 <Gnutoo> Defiant, ah ok thanks
May 21 20:11:17 <Gnutoo> by the way or I've this error message or I've no sound...I'll try the usual tools
May 21 20:13:40 <Gnutoo> even without speex it's strange
May 21 20:13:51 <Gnutoo> maybe my codecs aren't allowed
May 21 20:13:52 <Gnutoo> ?
May 21 20:16:07 <mrmoku> spaetz, nah... switch of ch_CH ;)
May 21 20:17:14 <bumbl> Ainulindale: ping
May 21 20:17:33 <Ainulindale> pong
May 21 20:17:46 <Ainulindale> I'm a bit busy at the moment but shoot
May 21 20:18:11 <bumbl> where can i upload a (really bad quality) ring ding ding bananaphone.wav
May 21 20:18:14 <bumbl> ;)
May 21 20:18:34 <Ainulindale> mail it to me please :-)
May 21 20:18:41 <Ainulindale> I'd be glad to broadcast it at FSOSHRUDCON :-p
May 21 20:19:00 <Gnutoo> still doesn't work with the wiki's asoundrc or and the state file!!!
May 21 20:19:15 <Gnutoo> is there a channel for voip?
May 21 20:19:40 <bumbl> ;)
May 21 20:19:50 <bumbl> Ainulindale: well it has real bad quality
May 21 20:20:01 <bumbl> as if i had used the freerunner mic for
May 21 20:20:04 <bumbl> recording it
May 21 20:20:22 <bumbl> so - it should be perfect for the neo ;)
May 21 20:20:41 <Ainulindale> heh :-)
May 21 20:20:43 <Ainulindale> don't worry about that
May 21 20:21:47 <Gnutoo> what should I do?
May 21 20:23:50 <bumbl> Ainulindale: what's your email?
May 21 20:24:41 <Ainulindale> nick at gmail
May 21 20:25:26 <spaetz> ch_CH pahh! :)
May 21 20:26:04 <spaetz> btw, real issue is that /bin/sh is dash here when it expects bash... :-(. But disabling locales also works around it
May 21 20:28:33 <bumbl> Ainulindale: sent
May 21 20:30:14 <Ainulindale> thanks a lot :-)
May 21 20:32:00 <Gnutoo> anyone...it has been quite some time that I'm trying to make it work
May 21 20:47:44 <CIA-75> SHR: 03frazier.cameron 07shr-settings * r489de27d53a0 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_currentprofile.py: [CurrentProfile] Addition of .sid file track editor, initial workings for ringtone testing added
May 21 20:48:43 <Toaster`> dos1|neo: Nice find on the .bounce_set() setting for the scrollers
May 21 20:50:50 <dos1|neo> Toaster`: there is also policy_set, maybe it'll be usable
May 21 20:51:00 <TAsn> Toaster`, are you frazier.cameron ?
May 21 20:51:05 <Toaster`> TAsn: yes
May 21 20:51:18 <dos1|neo> Toaster`: i bugged morphis to implement that bindings ;)
May 21 20:51:29 <Toaster`> dos1|neo: Awesome.  Thanks
May 21 20:51:38 <TAsn> thanks for the great work you are doing on shr-settings :) it's improving all the time :) I enjoy it very much.
May 21 20:51:44 <TAsn> btw dos1|neo, one Q
May 21 20:51:52 <Toaster`> Now if they get InnerWindows working I'll be content
May 21 20:52:09 <Toaster`> TAsn: Thanks :)  I like working on it
May 21 20:52:10 <TAsn> Toaster`, I remember someone saying something about having it another a different name
May 21 20:52:15 <TAsn> dos1|neo, when I turn off gsm
May 21 20:52:20 <TAsn> and then turn it on
May 21 20:52:52 <TAsn> is it supposed to work and just a bug here that it doesn't? or is it a known bug that ophonekitd doesn't reregister?
May 21 20:53:01 <dos1|neo> TAsn: i want to work on GSM and Bt module in few minutes
May 21 20:53:18 <dos1|neo> TAsn: shr-settings call incorect dbus method
May 21 20:53:33 <TAsn> what does it call and what should it call?
May 21 20:53:45 <Toaster`> dos1|neo: did you get my e-mail about dbus access to the Audio subsystem?
May 21 20:53:53 <dos1|neo> TAsn: wait ~ hour ;)
May 21 20:54:10 <dos1|neo> Toaster`: yep. what is traceback?
May 21 20:54:16 <TAsn> dos1|neo, okie ;)
May 21 20:54:33 <Toaster`> gimme a second
May 21 20:55:31 <TAsn> dos1|neo, I need to turn off gsm quite often (spend in a place without reception) and when I want to turn it on again I have to reboot ;(
May 21 21:04:34 <Toaster`> dos1|neo: I think I figured it out.  local/global issue
May 21 21:06:42 <eolson> Today's update of shr-unstable (which included frameworkd) fixed the frameworkd crash after suspend.  Thanks shr and fso guys :D
May 21 21:13:45 <Gnutoo> hi, I've some audio on linphone now
May 21 21:13:47 <TAsn> dos1|neo, I won't be here in an hour, though thanks a lot, gn. :)
May 21 21:13:58 <Gnutoo> but it's hashed and uses less than 40% CPU
May 21 21:14:05 <Gnutoo> what could be the cause
May 21 21:14:15 <Gnutoo> and it works only with the headset
May 21 21:16:09 <Gnutoo> mmm...it seems to be speex
May 21 21:55:44 <Toaster`> Intersting, .wav files don't trigger a SoundStatus signal when played via dbus
May 21 22:15:16 <DocScrutinizer> soundstatus signal?
May 21 22:19:40 <CIA-75> SHR: 03dos 07shr-settings * r47a29e29a4ed 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_gsm.py: [GSM] use ophonekitd interface to turn on/off GSM
May 21 22:20:03 <dos1|neo> TAsn: ^^^
May 21 22:24:02 <CIA-75> SHR: 03dos 07shr-settings * r5df333a20339 10/playground/shr-settings-debug: [playground] shr-settings-debug: less bouncing
May 21 23:47:56 <Toaster`> DocScrutinizer: SoundStatus is an org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio signal
May 21 23:56:13 <Ainulindale> Would anyone happen to remember dos' name?
May 21 23:56:44 <Toaster`> Ainulindale: Sebastian?
May 21 23:56:54 <Ainulindale> last name
May 21 23:56:56 <Toaster`> Ainulindale: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
May 21 23:57:00 <Ainulindale> Thanks :-)
May 21 23:57:27 <Toaster`> np
May 22 00:00:27 <Toaster`> Ainulindale: Has there been any progress on getting recordings of this weekends events?
May 22 00:00:54 <Ainulindale> Yeah, should be there
May 22 00:01:09 <Ainulindale> I'll tell you more tomorrow I think :-)
May 22 00:01:11 <Ainulindale> But don't worry
May 22 00:01:20 <Ainulindale> For the time being I'm sliding
May 22 00:01:33 <Toaster`> Perfect.  I'd like to attend, but the pond is a bit of a swim.
May 22 00:02:05 <Ainulindale> well buy a boat
May 22 00:02:12 <Ainulindale> :-)
May 22 00:02:18 <Toaster`> I'm a cheap bastard :)
May 22 00:02:21 <Ainulindale> Heh
May 22 00:02:28 <Ainulindale> You'll need to be less cheap
May 22 00:02:37 <Ainulindale> As you won't have time to spend with the core team :-)
May 22 00:02:56 <Ainulindale> Toaster`: if you have a subject of interest by the way
May 22 00:02:59 <Ainulindale> please do not hesitate to post
May 22 00:03:17 <Toaster`> Well, when work sends me to DE in the fall, I'll be seeing who's free for a beer or too
May 22 00:03:29 <Ainulindale> DE sucks! :-)
May 22 00:03:34 <Toaster`> s/too$/two/
May 22 00:03:49 <Toaster`> heh.  Where are you based out of?
May 22 00:04:02 <Ainulindale> paris
May 22 00:04:50 <Toaster`> Well I'll be in Toulouse as well +/- 2 weeks from my German trip, so don't feel left out :)
May 22 00:05:23 <Ainulindale> Toulouse? Well it sucks as much :-)
May 22 00:05:29 <Ainulindale> I went there 4 months for a job
May 22 00:05:31 <Toaster`> heh
May 22 00:06:38 <Toaster`> And I thought les Quebecois were the arrogant ones ;)
May 22 00:06:51 <Ainulindale> well
May 22 00:06:56 <Ainulindale> I'm from the general toulouse area
May 22 00:06:58 <Ainulindale> and it sucks
May 22 00:07:07 <Toaster`> gotcha
May 22 00:07:20 <Ainulindale> but if you want to go to good restaurants
May 22 00:07:24 <Ainulindale> I may know a lot of them :-p
May 22 00:07:33 <Ainulindale> Where are you going to work in Toulouse anyway?
May 22 00:09:59 <Toaster`> SE of the city, near Saint-Simon I believe
May 22 00:10:16 <Ainulindale> For which company?
May 22 00:10:23 <Toaster`> Thales
May 22 00:10:29 <Ainulindale> Ooooh, bad thing
May 22 00:10:33 <Ainulindale> Weapons & stuff :-)
May 22 00:10:53 <Toaster`> Well, my company builds stuff for them.  Nothing that goes boom though.
May 22 00:11:39 <Ainulindale> (meanwhile, I'm doing screenies)
May 22 00:11:45 <Ainulindale> for my presentation
May 22 00:11:49 <Ainulindale> I'm really late, dammit
May 22 00:12:08 <Toaster`> heh, regardless of industry, everything is late and rushed
May 22 00:13:02 <Ainulindale> well nah but I had stuff to do
May 22 00:13:14 <Ainulindale> mostly seeing my girlfriend though
May 22 00:13:43 <Toaster`> That's a fair reason
May 22 00:16:43 <Toaster`> That's why, there's no call to the SoundStatus signal in the AlsaPlayer class
May 22 00:16:56 <Toaster`> :q
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