**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 20 02:59:57 2009 Jun 20 08:32:11 damn, the whole suspend system is really fucked up in shr-unstable Jun 20 08:32:43 it suspends, although I have openbmap running, and the timeout for suspending is set to -1. Jun 20 08:32:50 i have shr unstable and it works Jun 20 08:33:02 which makes it useless for any type of gps logging Jun 20 08:33:13 sucks Jun 20 08:50:36 I want to do some changes in the kernel configuration. Where does the configuration come from during a regular make image? Jun 20 08:50:57 Or is there a way to use the conventional make menuconfig? Jun 20 09:03:14 eckhard: sure, i use make menuconfig Jun 20 09:15:57 lindi-: and then bitbake -c rebuild ? Jun 20 09:21:19 eckhard: sorry i don't use bitbake Jun 20 09:28:15 which is the correct recipe for the Freerunner-kernel? Jun 20 09:35:08 ok - found it allready Jun 20 09:48:19 make image in unstable fails due to some errors in gst-plugins-good Jun 20 09:49:49 seems they are not so good after all ;) Jun 20 09:52:24 the good is i do not need them, now just have to find how to remove them Jun 20 09:53:23 admiral0: lol... Jun 20 09:58:01 hey, can someone tell me how i switch to swoftware_16 engine in SHR? from what i understand useing the settings only chnages it for the system, and not the applications... Jun 20 09:59:58 Frank1: I had the same problem yesterday. Jun 20 10:00:08 Frank1, some recipe needs it Jun 20 10:00:11 amongst others... Jun 20 10:00:23 what is exact failure message? Jun 20 10:00:55 just one moment, i removed the good plugin as well as the gst-meta-audio, just have to see if it compiles now Jun 20 10:01:34 ERROR: function do_compile failed Jun 20 10:01:34 ERROR: see log in /home/frank/shr-dist/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gst-plugins-good-0.10.7-r5/temp/log.do_compile Jun 20 10:02:15 please see log /home/frank/shr-dist/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gst-plugins-good-0.10.7-r5/temp/log.do_compile :) Jun 20 10:02:25 Frank1: add in openembedded/recipes/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.17.bb EXTRA_OECONF --disable-esd Jun 20 10:03:12 @eckhard, i can try this as well afterwards, currently it is compiling with complete removal of gst Jun 20 10:04:42 @admiral0, i think the only problem is Jun 20 10:04:42 esdsink.c:55:17: error: esd.h: No such file or directory Jun 20 10:04:53 all other problems most likely derive directly from this one Jun 20 10:05:54 sounds like missing libesd*-dev? Jun 20 10:07:36 if you add the "-disbale-esd" as mentioned above it should do. But only if you use bitbake ... Jun 20 10:08:54 @eckhard, still compiling without, i need one image for flashing my fix first, after this i will try with the thing you mentioned Jun 20 10:11:56 Frank1: so what are you doing now? Are you doing the configure stuff by hand? Jun 20 10:13:50 not sure what you mean, i removed the gst-meta-audio from the task of shr-lite-image Jun 20 10:13:57 so it ignores the stuff at all Jun 20 10:21:59 one thing to report, but i think you already know it Jun 20 10:22:17 shr-mesasages doesn't play nice with notifier Jun 20 10:22:38 opens the message.. under the message there's the notifier Jun 20 10:22:41 :( Jun 20 10:23:13 the problem is that shr-messages should stfu when notifier is active Jun 20 10:23:30 that's what i think Jun 20 10:23:35 Does the Freerunner support thumb interworking? Jun 20 10:24:20 Frank1: Is there still a problem with your build or are you ujst fine right now? Jun 20 10:26:32 harlekin: as the cpu of the FR is an ARM-core it supports thumb instructions of course. But the software is responsible to use it. Jun 20 10:27:40 eckhard, I am getting an illegal instructions message when running my apps on the phone. My CFLAGS are: -march=armv4t -msoftf-loat -O2 -pipe. Do you know what's causing this? Jun 20 10:29:39 harlekin: try to add "mthumb-interwork" Jun 20 10:29:44 Does gnuebi mandate thumb mode support? Jun 20 10:29:56 eckhard, I thought that was implied by the t in -march. But I'll try. Jun 20 10:30:00 harlekin: AFAIK - no Jun 20 10:30:29 from http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/ARM-Options.html: Jun 20 10:30:29 -mthumb-interwork Jun 20 10:30:29 Generate code which supports calling between the ARM and Thumb instruction sets. Without this option the two instruction sets cannot be reliably used inside one program. The default is -mno-thumb-interwork, since slightly larger code is generated when -mthumb-interwork is specified Jun 20 10:30:51 I'll add that. Thanks. Jun 20 10:31:12 eckhard, what's the difference between armv4 and armv4t, then? Jun 20 10:32:31 -> http://osdir.com/ml/windows.ce.devel/2004-10/msg00119.html Jun 20 10:33:34 Blu3: Well, the PDU you sent me is part two of a CSM. Jun 20 10:33:44 So your missing URL is in part one Jun 20 10:34:29 eckhard, thank you. Jun 20 10:34:59 harlekin: :) welcome - does it compile now? Jun 20 10:36:26 eckhard, let me see. Well... I could compile with -march=armv4t, but I have these illegal instruction on the phone. I now try to compile for armv4i. But I'll have to investigate further what's going on on the phone, I guess. Jun 20 10:37:00 eckhard, do you have any suggestion from which setting an illegal instruction could originate? Jun 20 10:37:16 harlekin: do you use thumb instructions in your code? Jun 20 10:37:28 eckhard, no. That's the thing that's confusing me. Jun 20 10:38:10 harlekin: I remeber events when I got this message when I tried a divison by 0. Jun 20 10:38:28 this would not mean illegal code ;) Jun 20 10:38:31 gcc is emitting them. Jun 20 10:39:06 bash, too. I don't think they have such flaws in their apps and rather believe it's a configuration error by me. Jun 20 10:39:51 harlekin: you don't build on the phone - do you? Jun 20 10:39:56 eckhard, I don't. Jun 20 10:40:21 eckhard, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Samsung_S3C2442B. "Instruction Set: ARMv4", doesn't that mean thumb mode isn't supported at all? Jun 20 10:40:23 @eckhard, using the additional configuration you suggested did not solve the prolem, still get compiler problems Jun 20 10:40:23 harlekin: which build method do you use? pure bitbake? shr-makefile? Jun 20 10:40:43 eckhard, qemu user mode chroot into an ARM system. Jun 20 10:43:27 harlekin: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Samsung_S3C2442B just shows that the main version of the instruction set is armv4. I do not think that there are ARM920T cores that do not provide thumb as this is one of the big featrues of the ARM processors. Jun 20 10:44:23 eckhard, wikipedia lists the instruction set as ARMv4T, too. But not as ARMv4I. So will thumb-interwork even work? Jun 20 10:45:52 Frank did you clean out the former buld completely? I had to do a "bitbake -c rebuild gst-plugins-good" instead of just "bitbake -c configure ... " Jun 20 10:47:08 harlekin: I do not believe that this is the problem. But I'm not familiar with the qemu things. I'm lazy and use the shr-makefile Jun 20 10:53:01 i did a make image, normaly this cleans everything out Jun 20 10:53:57 but i will try it out as well, since there are more problems in the build currently, sysstat-8.1.6-r0 fails as well Jun 20 10:55:23 Frank1: do you have a backtrace of the yesterdays discussion on #neo1973-germany? If not I'll happily paste.com it for you. Jun 20 10:56:01 no did not have it, didn't know about the channel at all Jun 20 10:58:33 Frank1: are u using the shr-testing or shr-unstable directory? Jun 20 10:58:51 shr-unstable Jun 20 11:03:02 Frank1: http://pastebin.com/d49622918 Jun 20 11:03:25 Frank1: I left a lot of in between communication within as I have to leave now. Jun 20 11:03:34 Frank1: hope it helps Jun 20 11:03:52 thanks, will have a look inside and hope it is the last problem of the current build ;) Jun 20 11:41:10 @eckhard, the whole thing does the job. Jun 20 11:41:10 For all others with problems for gst-plugins-good: Jun 20 11:41:10 make image Jun 20 11:41:10 openembedded/recipes/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.17.bb EXTRA_OECONF --disable-esd Jun 20 11:41:10 . ./setup-env Jun 20 11:41:10 bitbake -c configure gst-plugins-good Jun 20 11:41:12 bitbake -c rebuild gst-plugins-good Jun 20 11:41:14 make image Jun 20 11:57:57 lindi-: ping Jun 20 12:05:00 bumbl: pong Jun 20 12:05:22 lindi-: i just had another nsod Jun 20 12:05:48 bumbl: with xserver-xorg-video-glamo? Jun 20 12:06:14 could you post your script again/tell me what ". $HOME/.sysfsrc" does because that fails here Jun 20 12:06:28 lindi-: don't know what paroli uses by default Jun 20 12:06:51 bumbl: it sources the file .sysfsrc Jun 20 12:06:59 bumbl: which has patths to /sys Jun 20 12:07:08 ok i don't have that file Jun 20 12:07:23 bumbl: it depends on the kernel version :) Jun 20 12:07:59 well i have a 2.6.29 kernel Jun 20 12:13:09 lindi-: could this be a problem (according to dmesg): [ 1633.445000] glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: IGNORING glamo_mci_reset while suspended Jun 20 12:17:13 bumbl: it has changed during 2.6.29 Jun 20 12:19:51 /sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds:gta02-aux:red looks interesting but it does not have a delay_on delay_off Jun 20 12:22:23 bumbl: echo timer > trigger? Jun 20 12:22:46 or something like that Jun 20 12:22:51 cat trigger Jun 20 12:22:59 (in that dir of course) Jun 20 12:25:03 yeah works Jun 20 12:35:32 lindi-: although i got a nsod Jun 20 12:35:41 the led flash Jun 20 12:42:13 mrmoku|a`: http://git.kernel.org/?p=network/connman/connman.git;a=commit;h=5c9331bc481ce5a3c438158020d40a41ec9b9c8e Jun 20 12:42:26 mrmoku|a`: how about using connman with AUTOREV? Jun 20 12:45:53 bumbl: ok so the system is not totally dead Jun 20 12:46:02 no Jun 20 12:46:08 ssh works too Jun 20 12:46:32 bumbl: ok, start using xsever-xorg-video-fbdev if you don't want to see crashes :) Jun 20 12:48:18 regarding the current shr-unstable build, can somebody solve the problems with Jun 20 12:48:18 gst-plugins-good (compile problems, esd.h missing) Jun 20 12:48:18 sysstat_8.1.6 (compile problems) Jun 20 12:48:18 sazanami-fonts (download uri wrong is http://sourceforge.jp/projects/efont/downloads/10087/ should be http://sourceforge.jp/projects/efont/downloads/10087/sazanami-20040629.tar.bz2) Jun 20 13:02:44 if i flash the rootfs, is the loglevel already on highest level or did i have to activate it somewhere? Jun 20 14:19:07 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r767f8c58c93f 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: [opimd] Contacts: fix possible division by zero Jun 20 14:24:04 dos1: x/0? In contacts? What's the calculations needed for contacts? Jun 20 14:24:14 DocScrutinizer: matching Jun 20 14:24:35 DocScrutinizer: i think in messages there is the same bug, but i'll check it Jun 20 14:25:10 but i agree with mickey|zzZZzz - that generic matching code should be shared with other PIM domains Jun 20 14:25:13 hmm, I don't get it where you need division there. for UTF8? Jun 20 14:25:26 DocScrutinizer: that's not my code Jun 20 14:26:05 DocScrutinizer: it's for calculating accuracy of match Jun 20 14:26:08 and selecting the best Jun 20 14:26:09 omg, maybe some binary search Jun 20 14:26:18 aaaah Jun 20 14:26:30 (that's what comments say ;)) Jun 20 14:29:40 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r7bbc15a5fb1d 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: [opimd] Messages: fix possible division by zero Jun 20 14:29:41 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * ra47f754c63a2 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (__init__.py pimb_sqlite_messages.py): [opimd] add SQLite-Messages backend Jun 20 14:36:16 * DocScrutinizer is puzzled about pimd using a best-match search. Can't see the use for it, except maybe for ignore-tabs and ignore-multiple-space Jun 20 14:39:05 of course it might help to have heuristics and best match for tel#, but then again there's no need at all for divisions Jun 20 14:41:20 DocScrutinizer: well, i think Motorola U9 uses best-match search too (looking at matched contacts when typing some text) Jun 20 14:42:01 DocScrutinizer: it would be good for typing some text and returning results in real time Jun 20 14:42:11 but again - it's not my code, it was here before i started to work on it Jun 20 14:42:53 sounds like overengineering Jun 20 14:45:28 if I search for "peter", I probably neither want "eternal" nor "compete" or "Piet" for result Jun 20 14:47:42 so I don't see why a "s/ //; tolower(); grep '*$search*' " won't do Jun 20 14:48:03 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r1db56b422b13 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (pimb_sqlite_messages.py pimd_messages.py): [opimd] Messages: implement Delete method and support it in SQLite backend Jun 20 14:48:55 DocScrutinizer: hmm, as far as i can see you won't get neither eternal, nor compete or piet for result Jun 20 14:49:55 dos1: so what's exact semantics of "best match" then? Jun 20 14:51:31 DocScrutinizer: dunno Jun 20 14:55:37 for very basic messages functionality in opimd we only need handling incoming messages Jun 20 14:56:03 and then we will be able to start writing messages app using opimd Jun 20 14:57:22 o shit Jun 20 14:57:38 i should be s/[opimd]/opimd:/ in commit messages :x Jun 20 15:00:28 can I copy the shr-unstable/tmp/rootfs/. to sd-card and expect a working rootfs on this? Jun 20 15:02:34 eckhard: just download tar.gz file and unpack it to sd-card Jun 20 15:04:38 I built my own image with some changes and only find the *.rootfs.jffs2 in the folder deploy/image. no tra.gz seems to be built by "make image" Jun 20 15:05:58 and for unknown reasons I don't find a jffs2 filesystem option in my desktop's menuconfig Jun 20 15:11:13 eckhard: you probably did not enable some dependencies Jun 20 15:24:29 lindi-: THX - i was missing mtd Jun 20 15:29:37 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r6000250a2720 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (4 files): opimd: introduce PIMB_NEEDS_SYNC property and use it instead of try...except: blocks Jun 20 15:48:19 where is the /sys interface to set the accelerometer sampling rate in the last kernels ? Jun 20 15:49:53 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-issues#Low_hanging_fruits_to_start_developing_Paroli_with Jun 20 15:53:24 <[Rui]> is libelm 0.3.0 too old? Jun 20 15:53:34 <[Rui]> I only see three functions for elm_tables Jun 20 15:53:49 <[Rui]> and I don't see how to layout things in a table Jun 20 15:57:15 <[Rui]> VDVsx: olá! :) Jun 20 15:57:39 dos1: all the cool new settings stuff in feeds? Like to create new uSD today Jun 20 15:57:42 [Rui], boas :P Jun 20 15:58:37 <[Rui]> is anyone here who can tell me which openembedded environment I should use to make an ipk for Om2009 ? Jun 20 16:01:25 DocScrutinizer: i think yes, it should be Jun 20 16:01:34 :-) Jun 20 16:31:35 i upgraded my shr-unstable according to the instructions on the ml but now there's no ringtone or vibration on incoming calls, does anyone have any suggestions for how to go about fixing this (or is it a bug that needs reporting)? Jun 20 16:36:06 solar_george: you rebooted? Jun 20 16:36:33 yes, many times Jun 20 16:36:45 i've also tried reinstalling various packages Jun 20 16:37:00 solar_george: dialer app is showing up on inbound call? Jun 20 16:37:11 yes Jun 20 16:37:59 and you also have audio for call, just no ringtone anymore, and no vibration Jun 20 16:38:31 certainly for outgoing calls Jun 20 16:38:52 haven't checked for incoming as i've missed them due to no ringtone Jun 20 16:39:29 oh and i can play the ringtone from the settings app Jun 20 16:40:03 we need to check if it's a gsm issue, or a notification issue Jun 20 16:40:25 ok how should i do that Jun 20 16:40:41 so accepting a inbound call and see if all works except ringtone/vib is essential Jun 20 16:41:45 just done that with house phone and it works fine Jun 20 16:43:21 hmm, I suspect some issue with fso and yaml rules. Jun 20 16:43:42 mickey|zzZZzz: can you have a look into this? Jun 20 16:46:02 solar_george: check your /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml Jun 20 16:46:12 solar_george: does it have OccupyResource in first rule? Jun 20 16:46:28 solar_george: could you find a pipermail pointer to the mentioned upgrade instructions? Jun 20 16:47:22 dos1 yes Jun 20 16:48:38 solar_george: then why didn't you updated that file? Jun 20 16:48:48 solar_george: (i think you said "No" when opkg asked for that) Jun 20 16:48:52 remove it Jun 20 16:49:23 dos1: remove what? Jun 20 16:50:17 dos1 would commenting out do Jun 20 16:50:37 dos1 i assume i then need to restart frameworkd? Jun 20 16:50:51 DocScrutinizer: OccupyResource Jun 20 16:51:06 solar_george: yep, it's commented in package Jun 20 16:51:11 the line then, not the file ;-) Jun 20 16:51:20 solar_george: and yep, restart frameworkd and ophonekitd Jun 20 16:51:25 DocScrutinizer: of course line :D Jun 20 16:54:13 solar_george: just reboot, probably a sure bet ;-) Jun 20 16:54:49 ok Jun 20 16:55:12 aaah, mickey is abroad Jun 20 16:56:09 DocScrutinizer: mickey knows about this issue Jun 20 16:56:20 Traceback (most recent call last): Jun 20 16:56:21 File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/modem.py", line 280, in _initChannels Jun 20 16:56:23 on_error() Jun 20 16:56:24 TypeError: err() takes at least 1 argument (0 given) Jun 20 16:56:42 that looks ugly ;zx Jun 20 16:56:42 dos1: yup, I guess I know he knows ;-) Jun 20 16:57:34 dos1: :-P yup Jun 20 16:58:16 DocScrutinizer: i'm implementing now handling incoming messages in opimd and sim backend Jun 20 16:58:37 here's the instructions i followed if you're still interested http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2009-June/000599.html Jun 20 16:58:46 dos1: you're incredible (did I tell yet?) Jun 20 16:58:57 DocScrutinizer: but right now without handling split messages Jun 20 16:59:13 fsck split msgs ;) Jun 20 16:59:52 dos1: just make sure you don't rely on a particular msg txt size Jun 20 17:00:42 dos1: except maybe *one* test to limit outbound to 160 - for now Jun 20 17:01:02 DocScrutinizer: hmm? i don't understand Jun 20 17:02:52 sending SMS >160char should be handled by framework. If framework doesn't handle splitting yet, you need a test so SMS to send is actually size of one physical sMS (which is 160char afaik) Jun 20 17:04:56 dos1: if one day framework handles splitting correctly, then opimd will receive *one* long SMS instead of 3 split SMS Jun 20 17:05:31 dos1: so make sure you can handle SMS of any size Jun 20 17:05:36 ok vibration works now but somewhere in the process of trying to fix it i've broken the ordinary sound output Jun 20 17:05:46 DocScrutinizer: i'm not assuming any size of sms in opimd Jun 20 17:05:57 dos1: and just limit size of send SMS to 160 for now Jun 20 17:06:12 DocScrutinizer: as i'm not supporting sending messages in opimd now Jun 20 17:06:47 dos1: so everything fine :-) Jun 20 17:06:55 DocScrutinizer: and FSO handles split messages ok now Jun 20 17:07:13 DocScrutinizer: it provides all needed information to show merged messages in UI Jun 20 17:07:26 DocScrutinizer: and i'm using it in opimd now, but only for already stored messages Jun 20 17:07:32 ok, so nevermind. Me a littly dizzy today (cold) Jun 20 17:07:40 * [Rui] still wonders what openenbedded environment to use to build packages for Om2009 Jun 20 17:07:56 [Rui]: for Om2009 - fso/milestone5.5 Jun 20 17:08:04 [Rui]: for SHR - shr/import Jun 20 17:08:11 <[Rui]> dos1: gah, ok :( 2 more days compiling Jun 20 17:08:15 <[Rui]> better start now :) Jun 20 17:10:30 hello! Jun 20 17:10:49 dos1: will we get rid of "SIM SMS storage full" errors with that opimd sms backend? I.E. are SMS downloaded and deleted automatically then? Jun 20 17:10:50 can somebody give me a few advices on compiling a driver for the freerunner? Jun 20 17:14:59 DocScrutinizer: with default backend different than SIM - yes Jun 20 17:15:11 pindemon: you need to ask a smarter question ;-) Jun 20 17:15:17 dos1: cool Jun 20 17:15:25 ok... let's try this one Jun 20 17:15:29 hello Jun 20 17:15:54 I'm trying to compile drivers for the rtl8187 (AWUS036H) wifi card Jun 20 17:16:25 problem is that I don't know which packages i need to apt-get to have the correct kernel sources, headers, (things?) Jun 20 17:16:26 i accidentaly saw in logs, that my gps was working :D Jun 20 17:17:16 so, as I know by uname -a the following info Jun 20 17:17:30 Linux freerunner 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 #1 PREEMPT Tue Mar 3 20:22:28 UTC 2009 armv4tl Jun 20 17:18:13 how/where should I get the correct sources? Jun 20 17:23:52 mrmoku|a` should be able to answer, when he's back Jun 20 17:25:12 maybe PaulFert` knows as well Jun 20 17:26:09 and for wifi driver specific topics wpwrak is the man Jun 20 17:30:21 thanks DocScrutinizer Jun 20 17:30:43 pindemon: hey Jun 20 17:30:49 DocScrutinizer: :D Jun 20 17:30:55 hey! Jun 20 17:31:42 Paul, I want to compile rtl8187 drivers (with some patching indeed for obvious reasons) for the freerunner Jun 20 17:31:59 pindemon: the kernel is hosted at http://git.openmoko.org, just choose kernel there, git clone the repository (you can use any linux repository for a --reference if you have any to speed up the process) and then switch to andy-tracking branch. Jun 20 17:32:19 pindemon: Or do you need anything more specific? Jun 20 17:32:45 well... as a total noob I'd like to have some confirms Jun 20 17:32:52 for example Jun 20 17:33:39 pindemon: confirms? Jun 20 17:33:44 1) I have to download kernel sources Jun 20 17:33:59 2) I have to download the wifi nic drivers Jun 20 17:34:03 3) I have to patch them Jun 20 17:34:06 4) compile them Jun 20 17:34:11 5) insmod etc... Jun 20 17:34:32 btw does framworkd use alsa or oss for ringtone playing? Jun 20 17:34:41 is this the roadmap? Jun 20 17:35:14 solar_george: NOBODY uses OSS (well at least that's how it *should* be) Jun 20 17:35:25 thats what i thought Jun 20 17:35:39 solar_george: OSS is strongly deprecated Jun 20 17:35:42 seems i'm missing the alsa packaged for some reason Jun 20 17:36:04 guess i really mucked that upgrade up Jun 20 17:36:36 solar_george: afaik framework uses aplay for .wav, and gstreamer for other audio formats Jun 20 17:37:17 if all was ok would i expect to see any output from lsmod | grep alsa Jun 20 17:37:53 lsmod | grep snd Jun 20 17:38:18 ok plenty there Jun 20 17:38:43 but no sound from aplay Jun 20 17:38:48 try invoke 'aplay somesound.wav' Jun 20 17:38:51 pindemon: you have to use the kernel and modules you compiled. Otherwise yes, looks like. Jun 20 17:38:52 ok Jun 20 17:39:23 i have already reinstalled the senarii package Jun 20 17:39:53 solar_george: 'alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/stereoout.state' Jun 20 17:40:49 solar_george: to set up and enable audio hw (mixer, amp) Jun 20 17:40:58 then try aplay again Jun 20 17:41:53 well it works now (using /usr/share/shr/scenarii/stereoout.state as im using shr) Jun 20 17:41:53 PaulFert`: I've installed debian with the install.sh script (version 3) Jun 20 17:42:21 maybe my best bet would be to go back to my backed-up copy of shr unstable and re-doing the upgrade? Jun 20 17:43:27 PaulFert`: also... in the repository you linked me I can't see any kernel 2.6.28 Jun 20 17:44:05 alphaone, that's part of the problem. there is no part one. i filed a bug on things like this, #495 i think Jun 20 17:44:05 the alsa state gets mucked up again after a call Jun 20 17:44:40 pindemon: we use 2.6.29 from andy-tracking. Sorry, i don't know the true debian way to do what you want to. Probably some generic instructions on self-compiling kernels will do. I think the sources are at pkg-fso repository. Jun 20 17:44:55 solar_george: pester Ainulindale about current state of scenari[(os)|i] Jun 20 17:45:57 solar_george: I have no idea what's current supposed way this is handled Jun 20 17:46:19 http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6-openmoko/ see theres the correct tarball Jun 20 17:46:45 thanks, i think i'll retry the upgrade from my backup Jun 20 17:46:58 np Jun 20 17:46:59 thank you solar_george Jun 20 17:55:05 Hi all... anyone got this error when accessing "People" in OM2009 T5? http://pastebin.ca/1467810 (I get no contact listing when this happens :() Jun 20 18:30:35 Hi all, I just built a shr-unstable image and 'opkg' is not included in the rootfs! Any hints on 1) how I add 'opkg*' to an rootfs-image or 2) install opkg_0.1.6+svnr204-r1_armv4t.ipk om the freerunner without 'opkg'... ? Jun 20 18:35:26 ingi i can make you a tarball Jun 20 18:36:09 Blu3: ah, thanks, thats a good idea :-) Jun 20 18:38:27 ingi, http://stuph.org/opkg-0.1.6.tar.bz2 Jun 20 18:38:35 Blu3: I guess I need to tar what's getting built under the ./tmp/staging stuff Jun 20 18:39:00 copy it to your FR, bunzip2 it, then tar -xC / -f opkg-0.1.6.tar Jun 20 18:40:09 bunzip2 and tar have to be run separately because the busybox tar doesn't grok bzip2 Jun 20 18:40:22 Blu3: ok, thanks I'll do that. Jun 20 18:41:00 y/w Jun 20 18:41:01 Blu3: did you have to do this your self ? I mean is it a known issue that opkg is not included in the 'rootfs' image ? Jun 20 18:41:03 alphaone: help me :D Jun 20 18:43:06 alphaone: is it correct that when i disable SimBuffersSms, then framework doesn't indicate incoming message (sound, vibrations etc.)? Jun 20 18:47:07 dos1: Oh, not sure Jun 20 18:47:37 dos1: Could very well be that the notifications only trigger on the SIM interface signal and not on the SMS one Jun 20 18:47:42 That would be a bug then Jun 20 18:47:47 alphaone: i'm implementing handling messages by opimd, and now i don't have any notification for user Jun 20 18:47:54 alphaone: so i'm reporting that bug ;) Jun 20 18:48:53 dos1: Please do Jun 20 18:49:11 dos1: It's in - what else should it be - oeventsd Jun 20 18:56:14 DocScrutinizer: i finished writing all code for handling incoming message, when default backend = SIM Jun 20 18:56:32 DocScrutinizer: i also finished writing code in SIM backend when default backend != SIM Jun 20 18:57:05 DocScrutinizer: now i just need to write code in Messages domain to store new message somewhere if we don't want to store it on SIM ;) Jun 20 18:57:30 it uses ogsmd SMS interface, so messages are handled without SIM Jun 20 18:58:05 and i think i should split SIM backend to SIM and SMS Jun 20 19:04:13 alphaone: well, i could fix it for myself by using opimd signal instead of ogsmd, but i think that wouldn't be acceptable to be default until ms5.5 is released ;x Jun 20 19:04:25 (using that signal in oeventsd trigger) Jun 20 19:05:46 Blu3: the libopkg.so.0 is missing from the .tar-file. Looking at my staging area for "*opkg*-stuff I see stuff from both './x86_64-linux/...' and './armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/...'. I guess I should pick the '*opkg*'-stuff from the latter, would that be correct assumption ? Jun 20 19:12:01 Blu3: So you never receive the first message? Jun 20 19:12:18 If so that is not a bug in FSO Jun 20 19:12:34 Or do you receive it but FSO can't parse it? Jun 20 19:13:00 If so please send me the offending PDU Jun 20 19:15:41 ~seen raster Jun 20 19:22:25 ~seen raster Jun 20 19:22:27 test Jun 20 19:22:30 s/est/ost/ Jun 20 19:22:41 * dos1 spanks bzzbot_ Jun 20 19:22:49 bzzbot seems to be asleep Jun 20 19:23:09 alphaone: created #444 ;) Jun 20 19:25:22 alphaone: BTW, do i understand it correctly? after SMS.IncomingMessage, when for instance storing message was succesfull, then i have to AckMessage Jun 20 19:25:35 alphaone: and when for instance storage is full, i should NackMessage Jun 20 19:25:37 yep? Jun 20 19:26:12 and what'll happen, when I'll neither Ack nor Nack message? Jun 20 19:26:14 dos1: Yes Jun 20 19:28:11 alphaone: will it be the same as Nack? Jun 20 19:28:53 dos1: that is a slight problem.... Jun 20 19:29:03 It is in some regards the same as Nack Jun 20 19:29:25 But SIM buffering will be enabled again Jun 20 19:29:31 dos1: is there any way to reinforce the elementary widget padding that was lost in the latest e/elm update? Jun 20 19:29:41 or was it caused by something else? Jun 20 19:30:00 And afaik there is no unsolicited message that will inform you about that. Jun 20 19:30:20 SIM buffering will be enabled and ALL message notifications disabled... Jun 20 19:30:29 alphaone: but ok, that's enough and good for me :) Jun 20 19:30:32 all notifications? Jun 20 19:30:38 IncomingStoredMessage too? Jun 20 19:31:53 Yes, all Jun 20 19:33:28 alphaone, i get an incoming message signal, but the sim slot supposedly holding it is empty, about one or two seconds later i get another incoming message signal and the same sim slot now holds 2/2 Jun 20 19:33:56 trying to fetch it, dbus raises a blank error Jun 20 19:34:01 (1/2) Jun 20 19:34:16 Blu3: It would be interesting to see what happens if you set SimBuffersSms(False) Jun 20 19:34:24 and check the dbus signal Jun 20 19:35:24 *nod* i've been planning on building a local storage to see if the raw data actually has a message and something between the radio and the signal is losing it Jun 20 19:35:47 the other problem is sometimes there is junk prepended to the url rather than the url being short Jun 20 19:36:06 seemingly random hexadecimal values Jun 20 19:37:16 strange Jun 20 19:37:24 But the URL is complete then? Jun 20 19:37:51 it is Jun 20 19:37:55 Blu3: I think you will see that the first SMS when you manage to receive it contains quite some binary "junk" before the URL Jun 20 19:38:11 i suspect as much and i'm wondering what it is Jun 20 19:38:35 That is the reason that sometimes the first part of the URL is missing because the binary stuff before has a different length Jun 20 19:52:02 is it possible to tell ogpsd (or fso-gpsd?) to listen on the USB ethernet interface? Jun 20 19:57:58 Weiss: i think it's possible to use dbus via tcp/ip Jun 20 19:58:07 Weiss: so you could use ogpsd in that way Jun 20 19:58:12 Blu3: after manually copying the libopkg.so.0.0.0, libgpgme.so.11.6.3 and adding appropriate symlinks, opkg started to work. I'm still wondering why it isn't packaged in the rootfs-image... Anyway thank you again. Jun 20 19:59:27 Weiss: You can probably use iptables and DNAT to expose the fso-gpsd port on usb0, too Jun 20 19:59:52 I'll try to do that now Jun 20 20:06:05 dos1: really? Jun 20 20:06:30 dos1: how do unix userids wok Jun 20 20:06:49 thrashold: from netstat -tan on the FR, i can see that it's listening on TCP, just only locally Jun 20 20:06:54 dos1: how do unix userids work with that in authentication? Jun 20 20:07:03 Weiss: yes. Jun 20 20:07:51 hmm, i should check on that. sorry ingi, opkg didn't list that file as belonging to the opkg package Jun 20 20:09:27 Weiss: I was trying to do `iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2947 -d 192.168.0.202 -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1', but for some reason it didn't work for me. Jun 20 20:10:07 lindi-: dunno, i just read somewhere that it's possible Jun 20 20:10:46 thrashold: ick.. i was hoping there was just some kind of "bind to all interfaces" option, although that's insecure if e.g. wifi is connected Jun 20 20:14:56 Weiss: There isn't. You can choose only port. Probably you can either recompile fso-gpsd to use INADDR_ANY instead of INADDR_LOOPBACK, or create a wrapper library to change this. Jun 20 20:16:36 thrashold: ok - thanks Jun 20 20:17:04 Weiss: just edit /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd Jun 20 20:17:25 search for localhost... Jun 20 20:20:38 Oop,s I'm actually sorry. I'm running fso-gpsd 2.39 which is _rather_ old Jun 20 20:20:54 And doesn't have an option to choose bind host Jun 20 20:38:52 Sascha: aha - just what i was looking for - thanks Jun 20 20:56:45 DocScrutinizer: implemented :) testing it now ;> Jun 20 20:56:58 dos1: :-) Jun 20 21:00:08 hi all i need a little help...i am on sd(debian) and i need an access to nand...is this possible? Jun 20 21:01:38 mount the appropriate partition? Jun 20 21:02:21 DocScrutinizer: i need to copy some files from internal memory of FR Jun 20 21:02:38 to uSD? Jun 20 21:02:49 should be easy Jun 20 21:02:56 yes Jun 20 21:06:43 DocScrutinizer: it works :) Jun 20 21:06:57 dos1: heh :-)) Jun 20 21:09:49 mihairu: I don't have a booted uSD system here for reference, but mounting some /dev/mtd* to an arbitrary directory should do Jun 20 21:10:00 IIRC Jun 20 21:11:20 mihairu: refer to dfu-util docs for partition numbers Jun 20 21:11:55 DocScrutinizer: ok thx Jun 20 21:12:04 np Jun 20 21:15:00 DocScrutinizer: now checking, if i broke something ;) Jun 20 21:21:12 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r34f8ac15c6a6 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (pimb_sim_messages_fso.py pimd_messages.py): opimd: Messages: Implement handling incoming messages Jun 20 21:22:07 bbl Jun 20 22:36:54 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * rc5c0588badc4 10/conf/example/frameworkd.conf: conf: specify default backend for opimd Messages domain Jun 20 22:42:42 I want swith to fso-abyss and other new stuff Jun 20 22:42:52 what should I do, except installing them? Jun 20 22:44:04 (fso-abyss, fsoraw, fsousaged...) Jun 20 22:44:18 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-themes * rd41ad25bf060 10/frameworkd/frameworkd-config-shr/ (5 files in 5 dirs): frameworkd-config-shr: make SIM-Messages-FSO default messages opimd backend Jun 20 22:46:59 max_posedon: fsoraw: install and use wherever due Jun 20 22:47:29 for fso-abyss I should just edit /etc/frameworkd.conf as I see. Jun 20 22:47:44 max_posedon: abyss: install and change config file accordingly Jun 20 22:48:46 hey DocScrutinizer Jun 20 22:49:33 DocScrutinizer, thanks Jun 20 22:49:50 max_posedon: Jun 20 22:49:51 [2009-06-20 12:34:37] DocScrutinizer: Du musst dafür in der /etc/frameworkd.conf einige Zeilen hinzufügen.... Jun 20 22:49:53 [2009-06-20 12:34:59] DocScrutinizer: [fsousage] und [fsousage.controller] Jun 20 22:50:05 hi guys...is possible to install ipk package on debian? Jun 20 22:51:17 hm... I don't see [fsousage] settings in config Jun 20 22:52:03 DocScrutinizer, just add empty groups or smth more? Jun 20 22:52:37 max_posedon: no idea - was wondering by myself Jun 20 22:53:00 these two lines aere all I got for instructions ;-) Jun 20 22:53:32 from this 2 lines, I understand only to words... Jun 20 22:53:34 *two Jun 20 22:53:39 which say "you have to add a few lines:..." Jun 20 22:54:46 "to /etc/frameworkd.conf... [fsousage] und [fsousage.controller] " Jun 20 22:55:01 ok, lets. try.. reboot Jun 20 22:59:08 hm.. gsm0710muxd still running Jun 20 23:00:49 check you really changed the configfile ;-) It magically reverted to original here Jun 20 23:01:36 checked, ti_calypso_muxer_type = fso-abyss Jun 20 23:01:55 hmm, strange then Jun 20 23:03:11 ps -ef | grep abyss ? Jun 20 23:03:39 ouch, here same Jun 20 23:10:20 yep, and I can't find info from DEBUG log, why it happens so Jun 20 23:15:53 straaaaange Jun 20 23:16:24 I find reason Jun 20 23:16:37 frameworkd started as service itself Jun 20 23:16:47 sorry, gsm0710muxd Jun 20 23:17:08 or not.. Jun 20 23:17:08 huh? via init.d? Jun 20 23:17:34 oh, sorry, not. Jun 20 23:18:22 anyway, trying remove gsm0710muxd, and symlinking fso-abyss to it Jun 20 23:18:31 dirty, but want try Jun 20 23:22:02 eyeyey Jun 20 23:24:20 doesn't helps too Jun 20 23:25:16 seems I can't even find fso-abyss itself anymore Jun 20 23:26:42 /usr/sbin/fso-abyss? Jun 20 23:27:16 opkg install fso-abyss: error* can't find package Jun 20 23:27:50 shr-unstable and fresh opkg update? Jun 20 23:28:03 this guys have problems with indexes this days Jun 20 23:28:40 /usr/sbin/fso-abyss not present Jun 20 23:29:44 so, you haven't installed it Jun 20 23:30:00 smth with indexing/updates really broken Jun 20 23:30:54 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/fso-abyss_0.3.1+gitr66+8ce3c6e40c4852de7dcca502f65784f6b18ca6bf-r1_armv4t.ipk Jun 20 23:33:28 well, update fixed it at least for opkg install Jun 20 23:33:47 maybe Jun 20 23:36:30 hmm, I did this before (install abyss). *really* wonder what happened to it Jun 20 23:36:37 rebooting now Jun 20 23:43:20 DocScrutinizer, ha, I think I found let me test Jun 20 23:47:17 would be great, as installing abyss and reboot didn't change anything Jun 20 23:48:47 from looking at modem.py sources, looks like option little bit different Jun 20 23:50:32 e.g. ti_calypso_muxer = fso-abyss Jun 20 23:50:55 2009.06.21 02:50:30.893 ogsmd.modems.ti_calypso INFO Requesting new channel from 'fso-abyss' Jun 20 23:51:05 yoy! at least smth Jun 20 23:51:30 yep, it works! Jun 20 23:51:41 DocScrutinizer, Did you understand what should be fixed? Jun 20 23:51:48 fso-abyss now works for me Jun 20 23:51:58 no Jun 20 23:52:30 you have in frameworkd.conf Jun 20 23:52:30 ti_calypso_muxer_type = fso-abyss Jun 20 23:52:35 should be Jun 20 23:52:38 ti_calypso_muxer = fso-abyss Jun 20 23:52:46 then reboot, and all works Jun 20 23:53:00 ayyyyy, that hurts Jun 20 23:54:06 test call, passed) Jun 20 23:58:16 DocScrutinizer, I'm waiting for responce from you that all works to go to sleep) Jun 20 23:58:45 max_posedon: boot takes time ;-) Jun 21 00:00:58 but gprs make neo bad Jun 21 00:01:06 gsm dead... Jun 21 00:01:12 you, abyys process up Jun 21 00:01:25 yau Jun 21 00:01:32 not you Jun 21 00:02:32 try test gprs also Jun 21 00:02:55 ping dead Jun 21 00:03:26 connect works, ping not Jun 21 00:03:51 its may be because you also connected by ethernet, wifi now Jun 21 00:04:01 anyway, its better than death. Jun 21 00:04:08 not here Jun 21 00:04:35 nothing but plain GPRS here Jun 21 00:09:30 all works for me here now Jun 21 00:10:06 even gprs? Jun 21 00:10:19 yes Jun 21 00:10:43 hmm, strange once again Jun 21 00:11:49 disconnecting, and reconnecting works, according to settings Jun 21 00:12:44 I trust only logs and pings) Jun 21 00:12:46 wooohooo, yes, now ping works as well, after 20sec Jun 21 00:13:43 packet loss 5%, but seems to work now Jun 21 00:15:45 gprs works after call too for me Jun 21 00:15:55 so, I'm marking fso-abyss as usable) Jun 21 00:19:56 shit, me a fool. booted FR while tcpdump running, just 40min before gprs lease timeout scheduled. ok, maybe tomorrow then Jun 21 00:21:37 WOW!!!, I can't reproduce http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/384 with fso-abyss! Jun 21 00:22:10 before any using "highload" gprs traffic killed neo, but now don't Jun 21 00:30:35 max_posedon: that's expected for abyss, as it implements correct flowcontrol Jun 21 00:31:20 max_posedon: you should report it to 384 Jun 21 00:55:44 well, irc works too **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 21 03:00:04 2009