**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 04 02:59:57 2009 Jul 04 06:34:39 PaulFertser: could it be that netlink notification does not work upon resume? Jul 04 06:35:16 either that or connman borks Jul 04 06:35:50 changing the default route works Jul 04 06:36:31 but not when resuming via plugging in the usb connector Jul 04 06:41:55 ~seen mwester Jul 04 06:41:56 mwester was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 7d 17h 2m 58s ago, saying: 'hmmm...'. Jul 04 06:42:14 hmmm... Jul 04 07:35:29 mrmoku: quite possibly, i haven't looked into it at all. Jul 04 07:36:25 mrmoku: you can see all events with "udevadm monitor", i guess Jul 04 07:37:01 PaulFertser: somehow I have that feeling. If for example have it connected to usb (with interface up and default route set) and then let it suspend. When I resume it by unplugging the usb cable default route does not get removed and interface is still up Jul 04 07:37:14 PaulFertser: will try udevadm monitor Jul 04 07:38:15 mrmoku: does it ever work after that? Jul 04 07:41:27 PaulFertser: my feeling is that the next plug/unplug won't work correctly and after that it works again Jul 04 07:42:30 mrmoku: hm, i think i'm doing something wrong, ethtool reports correct status here, but udevadm monitor doesn't show anything link-related Jul 04 07:43:18 PaulFertser: I'm not sure udev is supposed to notice and report that... Jul 04 07:43:28 what about logread? Jul 04 07:45:56 mrmoku: yes, g_ether gadget: full speed config #1: CDC Ethernet (ECM) Jul 04 07:46:45 mrmoku: but i don't see link down events Jul 04 07:47:36 dmesg gives a bit more information Jul 04 07:48:53 [ 5419.720000] gta02_udc_command S3C2410_UDC_P_DISABLE Jul 04 07:48:57 mrmoku: yes, i see Jul 04 07:49:17 mrmoku: looks like you're right, you test case show P_ENABLE last (and usb is unplugged) Jul 04 07:50:33 PaulFertser, and I just wanted to say... looks I'm wrong :P Jul 04 07:50:38 mrmoku: or not. Looking a bit more carefully (dmesg | grep UDC_P) i see UDC_P_DISABLE Jul 04 07:50:59 I tried the 'suspend with usb up and resume with unplug' case Jul 04 07:51:08 I tried the same Jul 04 07:51:09 and it shows UDC_P_DISABLE Jul 04 07:51:22 so I guess I'm wrong Jul 04 07:51:29 (which is fine for me in this case :) Jul 04 07:54:05 mrmoku: it'd be good to find an utility that listens to the same events connman listens to. Jul 04 07:54:16 guess it's just connman not being awake yet.. Jul 04 07:54:31 PaulFertser, yeah, I should check what connman does in the source Jul 04 07:55:36 mrmoku: i think it uses netlink socket waiting for kevents. Jul 04 08:08:41 good morning Jul 04 08:12:18 ptitjes, morning Jul 04 08:12:23 news from juerg? Jul 04 08:12:30 nah... :( Jul 04 08:12:41 morning moku Jul 04 08:49:13 hi i have a problem cross compiling some code with fpc, the created executable (hwengine, is cross compiled with fpc) crashes directly at startup in ld-linux.so.3, perhaps someone here has an idea what's going wrong? https://pastebin.ca/1483708 Jul 04 08:56:11 TheXception: backtrace of your crash? Jul 04 09:02:40 ah sry missed that in pastebin one moment Jul 04 09:03:42 PaulFertser: https://pastebin.ca/1483713 that's all Jul 04 09:13:59 TheXception: strange. As a wild guess, do you specify armv4 (and not armv5!) for code generation? Jul 04 09:14:34 TheXception: does an example program work? Jul 04 09:15:05 i defined arm5 Jul 04 09:15:20 PaulFertser: statically linked yes, dynamic linked no Jul 04 09:15:45 i wonder about the address of ld-linux.so.3 in https://pastebin.ca/1483708 Jul 04 09:16:06 should it not be the same as the others (0x40...)? Jul 04 09:19:42 TheXception: i saw that question but don't know the answer Jul 04 09:19:52 TheXception: you need to generate code for armv4! Jul 04 09:24:31 PaulFertser: ok i created armv4 but still same error Jul 04 09:24:49 *for armv4 Jul 04 09:28:50 thanks PaulFertser but i have to go now i will continue later Jul 04 09:29:01 TheXception: sorry i couldn't really help Jul 04 09:31:05 cya Jul 04 10:33:02 mickey|bbiab, alphaone|gone: where are you when you are needed? :P Jul 04 10:33:04 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/404#comment:6 Jul 04 10:39:12 dos1: 404 not found Jul 04 10:39:14 dos1: ;) Jul 04 10:40:13 hehe ;) Jul 04 10:40:20 CIA-45 is lazy again Jul 04 10:42:59 moin Jul 04 10:43:33 DocScrutinizer: howdy Jul 04 10:44:45 is there someone who use SHR as stale phone? Jul 04 10:45:09 stale? (*yawn*) Jul 04 10:45:28 stable Jul 04 10:45:29 pbaxter: if you mean "daily phone", then there are :P Jul 04 10:45:30 * Jul 04 10:45:32 (as me) Jul 04 10:45:44 and what you installed Jul 04 10:45:45 ? Jul 04 10:45:48 me Jul 04 10:45:50 and it seems to be stable enough to me Jul 04 10:45:53 SHR unstable Jul 04 10:46:02 090703 Jul 04 10:46:21 yes...but for ex. i just flashed the 3 july image Jul 04 10:46:23 (unstable) Jul 04 10:46:25 needs to prove stability yet Jul 04 10:46:38 and when someone calls me it doesn't show the name but the number Jul 04 10:46:44 AFAIK in that image is one annoying bug - http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/404#comment:6 Jul 04 10:47:04 pbaxter: so someone called you before SIM was initialized :P Jul 04 10:47:12 pbaxter: check your normalization settings (CC, IP, etc) Jul 04 10:47:15 or you have incorrectly configured contact cache Jul 04 10:47:24 wait i retry Jul 04 10:47:41 /etc/frameworkd-phonegui.conf Jul 04 10:47:49 no..it doesn't work Jul 04 10:48:02 pbaxter: then configure correctly that file Jul 04 10:48:06 how? Jul 04 10:48:13 ... Jul 04 10:48:15 just edit Jul 04 10:48:29 as almost all conf files in linux :P Jul 04 10:49:07 heyho Jul 04 10:50:13 dos1: i don't know how but i'm trying now Jul 04 10:50:41 pbaxter: nano /etc/frameworkd-phonegui.conf Jul 04 10:50:49 pbaxter: so why did you bought Freerunner? Jul 04 10:51:03 (no offence, just asking) Jul 04 10:51:08 for i wanted to learn Jul 04 10:51:13 Editing files? Jul 04 10:51:17 ;) Jul 04 10:51:27 and maybe start coding with python or simple language Jul 04 10:51:31 pbaxter: well, learning could be cheaper on your PC ;) Jul 04 10:51:49 also i like this project Jul 04 10:52:10 cause now you can easly get disappointed by state of software Jul 04 10:52:43 yes...but i don't lose my hope Jul 04 10:52:55 i think FR still isn't phone for non-geeks, but wishing you best - i want you to learn and write nice software for our mokos ;) Jul 04 10:53:36 also dos1: what does international prefix difference from national one? Jul 04 10:53:57 pbaxter: sure was right decisions, as FR has lots of friendly helping devels ;-) Jul 04 10:54:00 international_prefix = 00 Jul 04 10:54:02 national_prefix = 0 Jul 04 10:54:03 country_code = 48 Jul 04 10:54:05 home_prefix = Jul 04 10:54:11 that's for poland Jul 04 10:54:40 for italy'? Jul 04 10:54:44 I THINK Jul 04 10:54:45 OO Jul 04 10:54:48 00 Jul 04 10:54:58 national: dunno Jul 04 10:55:02 international prefix is what you have to type before international calls Jul 04 10:55:13 if you don't know, you can leave it blank Jul 04 10:55:27 ok...i'll ask in the italian channel this... Jul 04 10:55:29 thnks Jul 04 10:55:40 but dos1 can i ask you some help or you'r busy? Jul 04 10:55:44 pbaxter: I think in EU it should be 00 everywhere Jul 04 10:55:52 thx Doc Jul 04 10:55:56 pbaxter: no, just give us example how some number look when incoming call Jul 04 10:56:29 thisis mobile one: +39 3339343753 Jul 04 10:56:48 in poland it is +48XXXXXXXXX, but you can also call with XXXXXXXXX or 0XXXXXXXXX or 0048XXXXXXXXX Jul 04 10:56:58 pbaxter: is 333 part of unique number, or some prefix? Jul 04 10:57:02 this is home one:+39 02 66800881 Jul 04 10:57:28 i think so: international = 00 Jul 04 10:57:32 yep Jul 04 10:57:32 national = 39 Jul 04 10:57:37 yup Jul 04 10:57:39 no, that's country code Jul 04 10:57:49 CC correct Jul 04 10:57:53 country_code = 39 Jul 04 10:57:53 you'r right dos1 Jul 04 10:57:59 but national i dunno Jul 04 10:58:02 and also home one Jul 04 10:58:06 so leave both blank Jul 04 10:58:08 and test Jul 04 10:58:15 for in italy there is big difference from mobiles and homes number Jul 04 10:58:22 (restart ophonekitd, or X, or reboot :P) Jul 04 10:59:07 pbaxter: you need to have different number dialled from mobile than from POTS to reach same number? Jul 04 10:59:17 do you guys noticed, that today is year of FreeRunner? :) Jul 04 10:59:20 no Jul 04 10:59:28 YAWN Jul 04 10:59:43 but as you see a number of home is 02 xxxxxxxx Jul 04 10:59:47 mom, please go beat the kids Jul 04 10:59:54 a number of mobile is 3xx xxxxxxx Jul 04 11:00:31 dos1: when i call the FR i can't see who's the caller Jul 04 11:00:34 pbaxter: mobile has no area-code Jul 04 11:00:41 obviously ;-) Jul 04 11:01:22 when i call from my mobile it doesn't work Jul 04 11:01:31 but when i call from my home it says the caller Jul 04 11:01:38 pbaxter: after editing and restarting? Jul 04 11:01:45 not restarting Jul 04 11:01:49 what do i restart? Jul 04 11:01:54 framework? Jul 04 11:02:00 you have to restart ophonekitd Jul 04 11:02:09 killall -9 ophonekitd Jul 04 11:02:14 and then run SHR Settings Jul 04 11:02:23 and it will offer you start of ophonekitd :P Jul 04 11:02:38 doing Jul 04 11:02:48 but is there someone who use paroli on SHR? Jul 04 11:03:25 shr-settings - services ;-) Jul 04 11:04:45 trying a sec Jul 04 11:05:12 can i know why notifier also if i reject a call it says "missed call"? Jul 04 11:05:44 or if i stop a call hile i'm calling Jul 04 11:05:56 pbaxter: errr Jul 04 11:06:12 bug, i also noticed it Jul 04 11:06:17 1) is ok, 2) is bug Jul 04 11:06:40 why the first is ok' Jul 04 11:06:42 ? Jul 04 11:06:51 BUT NOW IT'S WORKING Jul 04 11:07:08 (i mean the show name not number Jul 04 11:07:36 also do you all use opimd-utils? Jul 04 11:07:47 pbaxter: don't use opimd-utils now... Jul 04 11:07:54 i'm author of it :P Jul 04 11:07:57 what's it Jul 04 11:07:59 ? Jul 04 11:08:06 opimd based messaging program Jul 04 11:08:20 but it has only features which I need Jul 04 11:08:35 and until i announce it, it's still MY program, with lot of known bugs :P Jul 04 11:09:01 dos1 i found it in shr repo Jul 04 11:09:06 so until you are opimd developer, don't use it ;) Jul 04 11:09:19 pbaxter: i know Jul 04 11:09:20 why? Jul 04 11:09:22 i like Jul 04 11:09:40 pbaxter: cause it's buggy and can eat all your children? :P Jul 04 11:09:53 and it's unfinished Jul 04 11:10:05 and in really-experimental-alpha version Jul 04 11:10:12 kk Jul 04 11:10:21 which mean "it works reliably only for author, noone else" :D Jul 04 11:10:21 so can i ask? Jul 04 11:10:40 do you use as daily phone dos1? Jul 04 11:10:53 yes Jul 04 11:11:12 dos1: I'll give it a try nevertheless Jul 04 11:11:23 i'm also using opimd-utils as daily app, but that's because i need to find bugs, and i'm fixing they when i notice :P Jul 04 11:11:29 but you use wifi and gps and bluetooth and all? Jul 04 11:11:42 pbaxter: wifi and gps - yes, bluetooth - rarely Jul 04 11:11:58 but it bluetooth worked for me when i tried it last time :P Jul 04 11:12:15 because i'm going away and i need gps + wifi Jul 04 11:12:28 which programs you can tell me are good to use? Jul 04 11:12:37 wifiman.py from shr-settings repo Jul 04 11:12:44 tangogps, navit, openbmap-logger :P Jul 04 11:13:03 but after installing navit YOU HAVE TO DO opkg remove -force-depends speech-dispatcher Jul 04 11:13:15 otherwise it will break everything :P Jul 04 11:13:42 DocScrutinizer: i've checked changing screen orientation with various kernels and now it produces high-pitched hum even with .24 . I think it wasn't the case before. Jul 04 11:13:50 DocScrutinizer: I have something for you Jul 04 11:13:54 https://mm.gravedo.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/CIMG2118.JPG Jul 04 11:13:55 and Jul 04 11:13:59 https://mm.gravedo.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/CIMG2121.JPG Jul 04 11:14:14 dos1 but navit from shr repo or from its own repo? Jul 04 11:14:20 I hope its clear enough Jul 04 11:14:28 i'm using it from shr repo Jul 04 11:14:36 ok :) Jul 04 11:15:04 for tango you need an occasional 'find tangotilecach -size 0 -exec rm{}; ; Jul 04 11:21:15 and also does1 what you use as browser? Jul 04 11:21:20 do you use eve? Jul 04 11:21:58 pbaxter: i use links-x11, but i want to install eve Jul 04 11:22:16 is eve in shr repo? Jul 04 11:22:26 and also: do you use the tweaks? Jul 04 11:25:15 re Jul 04 11:25:29 onen|openBmap: I was nА for a short while :) Jul 04 11:25:37 nА Jul 04 11:27:09 * nА1 (damn finers) Jul 04 11:27:12 В Jul 04 11:27:16 Zork|Work: ? Jul 04 11:27:41 Zork|Work: who's the nТА1 now? Jul 04 11:27:45 And how did you see it? Jul 04 11:27:48 onen|openBmap: on openbmap Jul 04 11:28:00 now openBmap is number one again Jul 04 11:28:04 Oh there's a new webpage ok Jul 04 11:28:29 (had some troubles with gps and FR in england so i haven't captured as much as I could :( ) Jul 04 11:28:46 btw: onen|openBmap: who's freedata? Jul 04 11:28:57 (I assume you are openBmap, no ?) Jul 04 11:31:19 Zorkman: trouble with gps in England o.O. Does USA consider GB as foe area now? Jul 04 11:31:42 :) it was most likely due to the FR DocScrutinizer ;) Jul 04 11:32:01 anyway, gotta go help a friend move Jul 04 11:32:10 hopefully i'll catch you guys later today again Jul 04 11:32:11 bye Jul 04 11:32:28 bye ZorkMove Jul 04 11:32:59 ZorkMove: probably USA noticed you moved to England ;-) Jul 04 11:36:23 morphis: hope you enjoy the funeral ;-) Jul 04 11:36:37 morphis: ...for the TP Jul 04 11:36:49 Ainulindale: hey you, how are things going? Jul 04 11:37:12 ZorkMove: I am freedata, Nick is openBmap Jul 04 11:37:45 DocScrutinizer: so bad? Jul 04 11:38:14 morphis: no way to put that testpoint back to function Jul 04 11:38:29 it's detached from trace Jul 04 11:38:46 how do you see that it is detached from the trace? Jul 04 11:38:50 and you impossibly find a way to reattach it Jul 04 11:38:58 ok Jul 04 11:38:59 hmpf Jul 04 11:39:17 because here's not trace leaving first picture and entering second one ;-D Jul 04 11:39:47 ok Jul 04 11:40:00 fuck! Jul 04 11:40:37 so only possibility I have is to find another point from where I get the TMS signal Jul 04 11:40:57 you *could* try to contact the microscopic naked copper end of trace where TP used to sit, by applying special silver varnish. but you never can solder anything to that varnish Jul 04 11:41:07 yup Jul 04 11:42:00 hm so I have actually no possibility to move on with JTAG Jul 04 11:42:38 morphis: chances are good as (iirc) it's JTAG and thus is supposed to run to all chips (or if it's daisychain, then just to first chip in chain) Jul 04 11:42:50 yup Jul 04 11:43:10 I feel sorry for you Jul 04 11:43:21 maybe this is a way out: http://cgi.ebay.de/Eten-Glofiish-M800-defekt_W0QQitemZ220444250298QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Handys_ohne_Vertrag_KM?hash=item33538050ba&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1229|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 Jul 04 11:43:36 sheeesh what a URL Jul 04 11:43:39 oh, poland is changing numeration sheme in phone numbers Jul 04 11:43:56 dos1: about time it seems Jul 04 11:43:57 sorry Jul 04 11:44:09 s/sheme/scheme/ Jul 04 11:44:09 dos1 meant: oh, poland is changing numeration scheme in phone numbers Jul 04 11:44:12 http://search.ebay.de/220444250298 would've been shorter :) Jul 04 11:44:15 they are removing 0 (national code i think) Jul 04 11:44:23 even for this I installed a tiny url plugin ... hmpf Jul 04 11:45:07 they want to be sure, that number displayed on incoming call is the same number, that user can use to dial :) Jul 04 11:46:58 morphis: hm, sounds somewhat ok Jul 04 11:47:14 morphis: 35тЌ current bid Jul 04 11:47:43 onen|openBmap: may I answer your mail here? Jul 04 11:48:00 onen|openBmap: fine thanks :-) Jul 04 11:48:26 DocScrutinizer: jap, but until tomorrow evening there are some hours where the price will raise Jul 04 11:48:46 morphis: sure Jul 04 11:49:12 iirc I bought my M800 for an incredibly fair price Jul 04 11:50:06 what you have paid? Jul 04 11:51:54 Where can I find the configuration for the shr-feeds? My installation is missing those and downloading a prebuilt image just for that seems to be unreasonable. Jul 04 11:52:34 morphis: I'm really not sure, but iirc sth 200тЌ more like 220 Jul 04 11:52:49 excuse me can someone help me making the wifi go better? Jul 04 11:52:55 with the command wmiconfig Jul 04 11:52:58 jap thats the same I have paid for it Jul 04 11:53:04 it cannot find the device eth0 Jul 04 11:53:19 root@om-gta02 ~ $ wmiconfig -i e Jul 04 11:53:19 wmiconfig: eth0: No such device Jul 04 11:53:58 pbaxter: you have to turn it on in shr-settings Jul 04 11:54:43 ah ok... Jul 04 11:55:15 so it's very unconfortable to turn it on every time you turn on wifi Jul 04 11:55:37 can't the command be implkemented in programs such as mofi or similar? Jul 04 11:57:07 mofi is old and deprecated Jul 04 11:57:09 :P Jul 04 11:57:19 and wifiman.py will have tuning wifi on Jul 04 11:58:06 DocScrutinizer: but have you some idea why the testpad dedatched from the pcb, maybe it was to hot? Jul 04 11:58:16 s/some/any/ Jul 04 11:58:17 morphis meant: DocScrutinizer: but have you any idea why the testpad dedatched from the pcb, maybe it was to hot? Jul 04 11:58:26 usual cause Jul 04 11:58:41 or you pulled the wire Jul 04 12:00:18 morphis: I'm just sitting here inspecting my corresponding TP. It has a via at the border of golden circle, 16:00 position when looking at it the way your first photo does Jul 04 12:01:02 with a microscope and decent SMT-tools you *might* be able to contact that via on main PCB Jul 04 12:02:17 morphis: then you could *maybe* cut out a 0.1mm diameter halfcircle of TP, glue TP to PCB, and solder via contact to TP Jul 04 12:02:46 sounds complex Jul 04 12:02:52 you bet Jul 04 12:02:53 but whats a via? Jul 04 12:03:12 and whats a diameter? Jul 04 12:03:19 a small hole that contacts thru to another layer of PCB Jul 04 12:03:25 ah ok Jul 04 12:03:27 Can some please point me to the place where I can get the contents of /etc/opkg of a "normal" installation? Jul 04 12:03:42 forget about the diameter ... Jul 04 12:03:53 its to early :) Jul 04 12:04:03 hehe, here too Jul 04 12:04:56 DeGT: possibly a "normal installation"? ;-P Jul 04 12:05:46 No, that was my point. Jul 04 12:06:08 see #537 Jul 04 12:06:13 so I hope now that my phone will start :) Jul 04 12:06:23 in a "normal" installation not even opkg is installed. Jul 04 12:06:29 it does :) Jul 04 12:07:35 I could of cours now start to download a prebuilt image but I think that that would miss the point of being able to *create* a working image. Jul 04 12:07:48 or build. Jul 04 12:10:12 hi, i have problems running a with fpc crosscompiled executable it directly crashes at startup in ld-linux.so.3 ( http://pastebin.ca/1483713 ) i'm wondering about ( https://pastebin.ca/1483708 ) any ideas? Jul 04 12:10:21 DeGT: so your question was rather off the bull's eye, no? Jul 04 12:10:22 but dos1 where can i find wifiman.py? Jul 04 12:10:32 in shr-settings git repo Jul 04 12:10:34 it's using connman Jul 04 12:10:57 but which is shr-settings git repo? Jul 04 12:11:18 found Jul 04 12:11:43 in playground directory Jul 04 12:12:11 found Jul 04 12:12:20 DocScrutinizer: I just want to know how to add those feeds to my installation. And in the long run it would be nice if that (and opkg) would be installed by default. Jul 04 12:12:45 and dos1 where do i put and how do i use it? Jul 04 12:12:58 where you like and as you like Jul 04 12:12:59 :D Jul 04 12:13:01 just ./wifiman.py Jul 04 12:13:06 morphis: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durchkontaktierung Jul 04 12:13:08 TheXception: i think the number is the address where the library will get loaded. I'm not sure it must me constant. BTW, can fpc produce object files? Can you try linking with a usual ld command? Jul 04 12:13:24 that's just signle python script Jul 04 12:13:38 but it has a gui? Jul 04 12:13:50 of course Jul 04 12:14:37 PaulFertser: it creates object files and for linking he uses arm-angstrom-gnueabi-ld of om toolchain Jul 04 12:15:24 TheXception: hm... Are you really sure you want to use an inferior language at all ;) Jul 04 12:15:42 TheXception: i think you need to ask FPC guys for a better advice... Jul 04 12:16:11 PaulFertser: i don't use that language myself i only love the game written in it Jul 04 12:17:06 and since someone is running/porting it on iphone with touchscreen control it'd be cool to run it on freerunner too Jul 04 12:17:59 TheXception: unfortunately, i'm not an expert in dynamic linking etc. You need to ask barlog for advice. Or fpc guys. BTW, are you using the latest svn version to do your cross-compile? And have you tried to run a helloworld program first? Jul 04 12:18:52 PaulFertser: fpc is latest version and small hellowordls run fine as long as they are not dynamically linked Jul 04 12:19:33 DocScrutinizer: thanks, I already found that :) Jul 04 12:20:10 morphis: quite sure yours is a blind micro(laser)-via Jul 04 12:20:41 hm Jul 04 12:22:59 TheXception: looks like fpc calls linker with some unusual parameters or link scripts Jul 04 12:24:35 hm that could be an idea to let fpc only create the link scripts instead of call linker Jul 04 12:26:09 DocScrutinizer: thank you for your great help :) it's good to have some good eletrical engineer around you can contact and ask complex stuff Jul 04 12:26:20 TheXception: btw, what's special about fpc linking, why does it need custom scripts? Jul 04 12:27:15 PaulFertser: that's what i have to find out now Jul 04 12:28:10 TheXception: probably you'll have luck finding fpc guys online atm. BTW, ld linking scripts are not that complicated, just read the documentation to understand what various directives mean. It's understandable. Jul 04 12:31:05 DocScrutinizer: hallo. sure answer here or in email, as you prefer :-) Jul 04 12:31:40 PaulFertser: linking does not look that special Jul 04 12:32:23 PaulFertser: https://pastebin.ca/1483790 that's all Jul 04 12:33:12 TheXception: -T ../bin/link.res Jul 04 12:33:37 TheXception: also i don't understand why it explicitely adds --dynamic-linker=/lib/ld-linux.so.3 Jul 04 12:34:27 and he does not prepend the right path to it Jul 04 12:35:14 TheXception: omit it altogether Jul 04 12:35:19 TheXception: the default should be ok. Jul 04 12:36:14 already trying this Jul 04 12:48:37 PaulFertser: removing the --dynamic-linker part ends in not executable file Jul 04 12:50:51 TheXception: funny, also ../bin/link.res looks strange. Jul 04 12:53:58 hm this replaces the default linker script long interesting file Jul 04 12:54:32 TheXception: you see? I told ya ;) Jul 04 13:32:41 i've installed Google Earth to see logged cells in my town :) Jul 04 13:33:05 i can see where i were often :D Jul 04 13:38:22 dos1: just post online, to make is simpler hire a head hunter Jul 04 14:07:12 mickey|bbiab: I've got some strange behaviour. Neo started to resume automatically. No SMSes, no calls, just wakes... Jul 04 14:09:38 Q-Master: frameworkd log portion after the wake? Jul 04 14:09:46 Q-Master: it has wakeup reason Jul 04 14:44:27 mrmoku: ping Jul 04 14:47:23 mickey|bbiab, i started to implement ophoned yesterday. should i follow the specs or the current implementation? Jul 04 14:47:45 playya: fsophoned? Jul 04 14:48:05 yes Jul 04 14:48:15 :) Jul 04 14:48:24 or did someone started it already? Jul 04 14:48:51 i think noone Jul 04 14:49:17 PaulFertser: doesn'T really go forward if i move the entry point manually ld-linux.so.3 runs through loading dependencies and afterwards it crashes with sigill Jul 04 14:49:36 so i keep on waiting for some answer in fpc cannel Jul 04 14:49:43 there are only fsodeviced, fsousaged, fsogsmd, fsonetworkd and fsotimed in cornucopia git repo Jul 04 14:49:59 hmm, what is actual state of fsonetworkd and fsotimed? Jul 04 14:51:08 oh, they aren't really started :x Jul 04 14:51:18 looks like they are just blank templates Jul 04 14:52:10 hmm... i was wrong Jul 04 14:52:20 Sup3rkiddo: ping Jul 04 14:53:05 TheXception: did you understand why that tricky linker script is needed Jul 04 14:53:44 only some parts i'm not familiar with that scripts Jul 04 14:54:20 dos1, pong Jul 04 14:55:01 i think there's someone needed who knows that structure and dynamic linker thing better Jul 04 14:55:26