**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 24 02:59:57 2009 Jul 24 05:46:48 dos1|zzZZzz: ping Jul 24 07:40:52 good morning Jul 24 07:41:29 do volume settings in shr work? I installed pymixer but setting the vvolume of "Input" "Bypass" from 29 to 13 and pressing save, then restarting pymixer just gives me 29 again Jul 24 07:41:32 good morning :) Jul 24 07:41:47 also, volume in profile settings do not seem to have any effect Jul 24 07:41:53 moin ptitjes Jul 24 07:52:47 blindcoder, tried using the E panel module for volume control? It works great for me (haven't tried it for calls, though) Jul 24 07:54:57 thrashold: the 'wrench' symbol? Jul 24 07:55:44 You enable it from there Jul 24 07:56:04 The volume control itself looks like a speaker or something. Jul 24 07:56:17 I'll check, gimme a minute :) Jul 24 07:56:46 It should be in the shelf plugins that you can add to the shelf Jul 24 07:57:00 if it is not there, you should enable it from modules first (I think) Jul 24 08:01:11 thrashold: okay, got it Jul 24 08:01:26 which of the many controls is the handset microphone? Jul 24 08:01:39 mine is set so sensitive that it even records the sound of my pc fan Jul 24 08:04:01 That's a very good question, I onluy played with Headphone volume :( Jul 24 08:05:17 hehe ;) Jul 24 08:12:31 thrashold: sorry to bother you again, I have made something stupid. I have the mixer in the top shelf now. But also in the area where I can start applications. I guess I added it using Extensions -> Gadgets. Jul 24 08:12:37 thrashold: is it possible to remove them again? Jul 24 08:13:15 ermmm Jul 24 08:13:22 It is possible to remove it Jul 24 08:13:25 but not easy Jul 24 08:13:41 thought so Jul 24 08:13:42 I once managed to do the same with another gadget Jul 24 08:14:01 (system tray) Jul 24 08:15:00 I think I managed to knock it down by right clicking it and telling it to go away. Which is complicated,as xglamo doesn't have right click emulation as far as I know, and even if it does, it's buggy. Jul 24 08:15:10 I mean, the gadgets on the desktop are boggy Jul 24 08:15:11 buggy Jul 24 08:15:58 move ~/.e out of the way, and reconfigure your enlightenment from scratch :) Jul 24 08:16:20 hmm, I could just start E on a PC X using DISPLAY variable Jul 24 08:16:29 That would also work, I think Jul 24 08:17:10 Do it in a xnest, though Jul 24 08:17:10 :) Jul 24 08:23:22 hmm, Xnest refuses connection even though I did xhost + Jul 24 08:24:28 ah, Xnest -ac :1 Jul 24 08:24:28 :) Jul 24 08:31:45 thrashold: worked fine with right mouse button :) Jul 24 08:32:17 That's good. My whole E crashed few times when I tried to do the same with the system tray on my desktop :D Jul 24 08:54:54 oh, nice. E got a SIGILL on resume :) Jul 24 09:18:47 mrmoku, hey Jul 24 09:19:30 F4t: yup Jul 24 09:20:03 mrmoku, managed to test nat thingy? :) Jul 24 09:20:43 F4t: half way ;) Jul 24 09:21:00 I installed it, connected to wifi and configured NAT Jul 24 09:21:07 but then had no time to test it :P Jul 24 09:21:18 lol ok... Jul 24 09:21:19 will do that a bit later today Jul 24 09:21:42 thanks :) Jul 24 09:22:05 F4t: btw... what about firewall in general? :P Jul 24 09:22:19 oh, f4t :) i bring not so very good tidings :) Jul 24 09:23:06 i upgraded to svnr100, scanning still works as with 87, but when i try to connect to an AP i get timeouts while waiting for the dhcp Jul 24 09:23:14 i'll have a look at the outputs later today Jul 24 09:23:29 Meomer, ok.. Jul 24 09:23:59 mrmoku, i indend to add port forwarding.... but i dont think firewall in general is part of the purpose of this app Jul 24 09:24:51 F4t: ok Jul 24 09:25:09 invoking that sounds like something you'd have as connman plugin, no? Jul 24 09:26:38 Meomer, invoking what? Jul 24 09:27:03 the scripts for putting up port forwarding and firewall Jul 24 09:28:02 Meomer, i could add it as plugin for connman, but i prefer to avoid doing that, first of all python is way easier, and second, connman has a design commity or whatever tha makes everything so user friendly it becomes useless in extreme cases... Jul 24 09:28:33 Meomer, had to remove the "Channel" option from wifi due to that design... Jul 24 09:28:58 does it try to find the channel itself then? Jul 24 09:29:11 Meomer, yep... Jul 24 09:29:56 Meomer, that means if you have 2 networks with the same ssid, you'd be "roaming" between them, instead of picking which one you want to connect to, if they are on different channels Jul 24 09:43:21 mrmoku|away: pong (a little late) Jul 24 10:05:32 Ainulindale: any clue on why my non-ascii letters are missing in the UI? Jul 24 10:10:49 hello. how can I get rid of partly installed packages? Jul 24 10:11:05 opkg complains about Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest." Jul 24 10:21:26 perhaps "opkg -force-reinstall install " first and then remove the old and install the new Jul 24 10:22:16 thanks, I'll try Jul 24 10:29:43 F4t: what was the arg for -t of iptables to check nat? Jul 24 10:31:01 -t nat -L Jul 24 10:31:12 there are also some rules in filter table Jul 24 10:33:23 looks all good Jul 24 10:33:39 btw, why is there no -S switch... could have been very usefull Jul 24 10:34:03 have to actually try it now Jul 24 10:34:11 :) Jul 24 10:37:33 F4t, congrats... works :) Jul 24 10:37:38 Ainulindale, nvm Jul 24 10:37:45 there was a devshell open on the buildhost Jul 24 10:37:50 wanted to know if you're doing stuff Jul 24 10:37:55 and if I can sync Jul 24 10:39:07 F4t, though... mokonnect segfaulted when I connected my laptop Jul 24 10:39:44 F4t, and it does not show the selected profile on restart Jul 24 10:39:50 anyway lunchtime :) Jul 24 10:39:52 bbiab Jul 24 10:46:23 hello, i am building shr-unstable...wich *.bb describes wich packets(glibc,libyaml,ppp,...) have to be build in wich order? Jul 24 10:54:40 ceda_wrk: no idea, no Jul 24 10:54:49 mrmoku|away: well no I wasn't doing a thing :-) Jul 24 10:56:44 for german-speakink:http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=1505 Jul 24 11:06:26 schasch: there is a meta package for the image: shr-image or shr-lite-image Jul 24 11:08:16 schasch: bitbake shr-lite-image Jul 24 11:08:21 schasch: or bitbake shr-image Jul 24 11:08:34 Heinervdm:thanks Jul 24 11:11:56 schasch, task-shr-minimal == lite image Jul 24 11:12:00 and task-shr == fat image Jul 24 11:13:26 anyone here using vagalume? Jul 24 11:13:48 when I say "play my recommendations" or play anything it just crashes Jul 24 11:13:48 blindcoder: me sometimes Jul 24 11:14:01 mrmoku,Ainulindale:thankx Jul 24 11:14:01 blindcoder: that's version 0.7 Jul 24 11:14:24 blindcoder: try 0.7.1 from opkg Jul 24 11:15:04 vagalume - 0.7-r0 - Last.fm client Jul 24 11:15:11 ah, you mean opkg.org? Jul 24 11:15:19 blindcoder: yes Jul 24 11:17:19 Heinervdm: sweet, thanks :) Jul 24 11:20:30 mrmoku: can't you commit the bb from this ticket? http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/372 Jul 24 11:26:57 Heinervdm, (vagalume) bump to 0.7.1? Jul 24 11:27:31 and build from a different location.... Jul 24 11:27:33 mrmoku: you need to change the SRC_URI to the official vagalume webpage Jul 24 11:27:50 now I just need a way to stream from my neo to the samsung stereo via bluetooth ;) Jul 24 11:27:50 install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/index.theme ${D}${datadir}/vagalume/icons/hicolor Jul 24 11:27:55 is not needed anymore? Jul 24 11:28:41 mrmoku: oh, there is the wrong bb :) Jul 24 11:28:47 it's needed Jul 24 11:29:17 bump to 0.7.1 and change SRC_URI to http://vagalume.igalia.com/files/source/vagalume_${PV}.orig.tar.gz Jul 24 11:29:26 ok, will do Jul 24 11:29:40 thx, one ticket less ;) Jul 24 11:29:46 old ticket that one... time to close it Jul 24 11:29:48 * mrmoku ashamed Jul 24 11:42:16 is there maybe also a newer version of mokonnect? Jul 24 11:42:22 it connects fine to gprs but not to wifi Jul 24 11:42:42 Heinervdm, NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: Jul 24 11:42:46 NOTE: /usr/share/dbus-1/services/vagalume.service Jul 24 11:42:48 NOTE: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/vagalume.png Jul 24 11:42:55 probably should add them? Jul 24 11:43:55 mrmoku: it's working, but add them it can't be wrong Jul 24 11:44:11 i was only interessed in a working version, not more ;) Jul 24 11:44:34 for the png we have our own one I think Jul 24 11:44:41 but maybe the dbus service file is interesting Jul 24 11:45:14 on the other hand... if you say it is working without Jul 24 11:45:33 * mrmoku started to fear the risk ;) Jul 24 11:46:36 perhaps it's interesting for someone else if he want to something through dbus within vagalume :) Jul 24 11:46:46 1k more or less... Jul 24 11:48:30 DBusException: org.moblin.connman.Error.InvalidArguments: Invalid arguments Jul 24 11:48:33 :( Jul 24 11:49:17 would be interesting to know which arguments :) Jul 24 11:50:02 http://pastebin.com/m34c38525 Jul 24 11:52:31 hmm, that might be a silly question, but what kind of security is (rsn) Jul 24 11:52:48 no idea, I have configured wpa2 on the router Jul 24 11:53:12 "real soon now"? :-) Jul 24 11:53:36 blindcoder, what mokonnect and what connman version ? Jul 24 11:53:44 * mrmoku is using mokonnect with wpa2 just fine Jul 24 11:54:00 Meomer, rsn = wpa2 Jul 24 11:54:29 mokonnect - 0.3+svnr87-r0 - Jul 24 11:54:33 connman - 0.22+gitr1575+f7fb380c664c938d5396cc9e1b36c3b4b55e72b2-r1 - Jul 24 11:54:47 i think that's 0.29 too, is it? :) Jul 24 11:54:56 blindcoder: connmand -v will help more there :) Jul 24 11:54:58 blindcoder, mokonnect is too old Jul 24 11:55:07 oh Jul 24 11:55:12 root@om-gta02 ~ $ connmand --version Jul 24 11:55:12 0.29 Jul 24 11:55:14 wait a second for the vagalume build to finish Jul 24 11:55:23 and I will sync newer mokonnect to the feed Jul 24 11:55:27 :) Jul 24 11:55:45 and yes, get svnr100, that should get you further Jul 24 11:55:54 or wait for 102 :) Jul 24 11:56:07 unless you get as far as i do then and still can't connect :) Jul 24 11:56:15 which has NAT capabilities that work just great :D Jul 24 11:56:32 if i wasn't able to scan with iwlist i'd start to think it's a problem of my phone :) Jul 24 11:56:43 nice, so I got something if my internet connection breaks :) Jul 24 12:00:26 blindcoder, opkg update; opkg install mokonnect Jul 24 12:00:35 Heinervdm, could you try if vagalume actually works now? Jul 24 12:03:38 mrmoku: thanks, works fine now :) Jul 24 12:04:00 blindcoder, good :) Jul 24 12:05:06 now I just need to configure my stereo as a BT headset and I can stream last.fm over it ;) Jul 24 12:05:30 thanks so far, everyone, gotta go shopping as my family will crash here today Jul 24 12:19:21 nome Jul 24 12:22:22 PaulFertser, nome? Jul 24 12:22:37 mrmoku: that was a hopeless attempt to reach nomeata :) Jul 24 12:22:46 :) Jul 24 12:27:56 HAllo,,,I looked in task-shr-minimal.bb shr-image.bb shr-image-inc.....wich kernel is used? 2.6.29 or 2.6.29.6?? Jul 24 12:28:09 can not find it Jul 24 12:29:40 schasch, the kernel is set to AUTOREV for shr-unstable Jul 24 12:29:57 and builds from the linux-openmoko-shr-devel recipe, IIRC Jul 24 12:30:15 yep Jul 24 12:32:28 so, something went wrong in my update yesterday :/ Jul 24 12:32:53 linux-openmoko-shr-devel...that helped me...thankx!!! Jul 24 12:33:29 if i get problems connecting to fso in the settings dialog, should i just reinstall the framework packages? Jul 24 12:33:56 mrmoku: so it is a 2.6.29 + openmoko-shr patches? Jul 24 12:35:52 schasch, no shr patches Jul 24 12:36:05 it is HEAD of andy-tracking branch in the openmoko kernel git repo Jul 24 12:36:46 Meomer, if you know the packages you can -force-reinstall install them Jul 24 12:36:56 for me it was frameworkd, frameworkd-config-shr and libgee0 Jul 24 12:37:33 i installed the latter two manually, but frameworkd might have been in the pack when opkg ran out of mem Jul 24 12:37:57 thankx Jul 24 12:38:13 hello Jul 24 12:38:29 someone working on mms side? Jul 24 12:38:42 (receive) Jul 24 12:39:50 a21_work: Blu3 probably does Jul 24 12:40:14 nice, I'll pm him Jul 24 12:42:15 PaulFertser: are you on shr unstable? Jul 24 12:42:24 a21_work: i'm on Debian :D Jul 24 12:42:38 ah, ok... ;) Jul 24 12:44:50 someone knows what's the "project B" from openmoko? Jul 24 13:03:49 Cross-compiling emacs is really fucking hard :( one needs to be an auto-magician to do that :S Jul 24 13:07:53 'morning from debconf Jul 24 13:32:48 morning to debconf ;) Jul 24 13:32:59 has anyone used bluetooth headsets with SHR yet? Jul 24 13:33:14 when I run: ./simple-agent hci0 DA:4A:A3:1E:0E:73 Jul 24 13:33:24 I just get: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout Jul 24 13:37:34 okay, my mistake. I need to specify the MAC of the remote system Jul 24 13:41:54 hello, i try ti build the fso image and have failures with libmikmod .. "No GNU HASH in binary " any suggestions ? Jul 24 13:45:57 blindcoder: what headset are you using? (just curious) Jul 24 13:49:49 DocScrutinizer: do you have a tool you can recomend for translation? I saw that gorm has a button that translates string using google translator Jul 24 13:51:26 ceda_wrk: a samsung HT-X 710 :-) Jul 24 13:51:29 at least, I try to Jul 24 13:51:32 still get errors Jul 24 13:51:55 ceda_wrk: [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_bluetooth.c:1521:(audioservice_expect) Bogus message BT_GETCAPABILITIES_REQ received while BT_GETCAPABILITIES_RSP was expected Jul 24 13:52:02 haven't found out what that means yet Jul 24 13:52:20 did you pair them first? Jul 24 13:52:56 I've gotten that when they got out of sync with each other (not openmoko, just alsa-bluez and my SonyEricsson headset) Jul 24 13:53:15 I use a BT headset at work every day Jul 24 13:54:17 ceda_wrk: I ran ./simple-agent hci0 Jul 24 13:54:26 ceda_wrk: and then just ./simple-agent Jul 24 13:55:28 blindcoder: I wish I could help, but I haven't used simple-agent. What's it supposed to do? Jul 24 13:56:03 ceda_wrk: it comes with bluez4 and is a tool to set up the bonding Jul 24 13:56:32 according to http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Using you need to have it running Jul 24 13:59:16 ok. I have no clue. The general idea is to pair things (make them trust each other) so that connections can be opened whenever needed. After successful pairing (with bluez3 maybe), a directory is created in /var/lib/bluetooth Jul 24 13:59:54 but that might all be gnome-specific too, I basically don't know Jul 24 14:01:13 yeah, the directory is there Jul 24 14:01:22 Ainulindale: there have to be seperation of strings in the phone-GUI. There are many places that just get wrong now. "Call" is used as a verb (an action) and as a noun (the actual conversation) and are two totally different words in Swedish Jul 24 14:01:52 ceda_wrk: do it and send patch Jul 24 14:01:58 ceda_wrk: or ask for commit access Jul 24 14:02:22 I've got commit access. Just wanted to clear the air first. Jul 24 14:02:40 ceda_wrk: so just do that separation and commit it Jul 24 14:03:32 dos1: just about too. But I'll bug you in order to get it to build so I can try it out before I commit. :) Jul 24 14:06:46 i had to setup shr again and get an error during make update telling me "You asked me to pull without telling me which branch you want to merge with, and 'branch.master.merge' in your configuration file does not tell me either. Please name which branch you want to merge on the command line and try again" Jul 24 14:07:02 Does somebody know what to do about this? Jul 24 14:18:44 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07specs * re28293078134 10/org.freesmartphone.PIM/Makefile: org.freesmartphone.PIM: add files about Call domain to Makefile Jul 24 14:32:24 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07specs * r4edf8375dceb 10/ (40 files in 2 dirs): specs: add missing PIM specs and regenerate Jul 24 14:34:07 ceda_wrk: found the problem. I had the also plugin from bluez3 but bluez4 running Jul 24 14:36:03 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07specs * r63ea4761f19c 10/html/index.html: index.html: fix typo in fixing typo :) Jul 24 14:40:28 blindcoder: ah, so it works now? Jul 24 14:41:56 ceda_wrk: yes :) Jul 24 14:42:37 nice. Will have to try that out when I get back to work (where my headphones are) Jul 24 14:43:26 ceda_wrk: I ran that simple-agent hci0 , then simple-agent & Jul 24 14:43:35 ceda_wrk: without simple-agent you get no connection in mplayer Jul 24 14:55:08 mickeyl: hi . i have probs builing the fso image with libmikmid and mesa . "No GNU_HASH in the elf binary" any suggestions Jul 24 14:56:03 Never seen that. Which branch are you using? Didn't use org.oe.dev for ages, our just released milestone has been built out of fso/milestone5.5 Jul 24 14:56:33 its fso-testing and fso-unstable , building with the Makefile Jul 24 14:56:48 libmikmod_3.1.12 works Jul 24 14:56:50 no idea which branch the Makefile builds Jul 24 14:57:02 [oe branch, that is] Jul 24 14:59:13 mickeyl: git branch shows org.openembedded.dev Jul 24 15:00:18 *nod* Jul 24 15:00:27 better use fso/milestone5.5 Jul 24 15:00:36 i have no idea about the state of our stuff in org.oe.dev Jul 24 15:00:42 since my boycott is still active Jul 24 15:01:14 ?? boycott Jul 24 15:02:01 I'm boycotting org.oe.dev since i left the coreteam, which subsequently was deconstructed Jul 24 15:02:04 darn, how we Java folks really have things set up for us ... Jul 24 15:02:55 easy+ Jul 24 15:03:37 mickeyl: sounds bad Jul 24 15:04:02 oh well, it had to be done Jul 24 15:04:06 but it's not all bad Jul 24 15:04:13 there's light at the end of tunnel (no other train) Jul 24 15:04:36 we're working on fixing the e.V. and raising a technical steering commitee Jul 24 15:04:44 once that's in place, i commit to org.oe.dev again Jul 24 15:07:24 damm . how can i get my gta running. shr ist not booting , fso ist not building , i am not interesting in useing android ..*GRMPF* Jul 24 15:07:40 pwgen: shr is not booting? Jul 24 15:08:43 pwgen: flash milestone 5.5 or build it from fso/milestone5.5 Jul 24 15:09:33 . i build it yesterday, the new handwritten splash appears , nothing happens , and the last message is bootetd avhi , no usb networking .... so its crap ... Jul 24 15:10:36 from which branch? Jul 24 15:11:09 mickeyl: he said about splash, so i think he's talking about shr Jul 24 15:11:16 yeah Jul 24 15:11:25 mickeyl: ... a naughy question ?.. how can i change to fso/milsteone5.5 ? Jul 24 15:11:30 pwgen: maybe your build went wrong, do you have -j 4 specified? Jul 24 15:11:43 pwgen: git branch --track ms5.5 origin/fso/milestone5.5 Jul 24 15:11:45 jupp Jul 24 15:11:53 pwgen: you could try to flash image from build.shr-project.org Jul 24 15:11:57 mickey: THX ! Jul 24 15:12:02 np Jul 24 15:12:07 i'm sure you can do it from the makefile as well Jul 24 15:12:10 but i have no idea how Jul 24 15:12:19 pwgen: looks like there is some bug in bitbake. building image with multiple threads ends with missing packages Jul 24 15:12:29 rwhitby seems to have abandonded Openmoko Jul 24 15:12:38 in favour of the palm pre Jul 24 15:14:02 should perhaps send him a naPalm as a reminder of which path i choose? ;-) Jul 24 15:15:33 s/i/he/ Jul 24 15:15:34 ceda_wrk meant: should perhaps send hhem a naPalm as a reminder of which path i choose? ;-) Jul 24 15:18:29 darn that build took time Jul 24 15:19:42 opimd-messages ... is COOL :) Jul 24 15:20:25 1.3 Gigs free didn't do it either. and all I wanted was a opkg file to try out locally for some translation. :P Jul 24 15:21:18 I'm impressed with all the patience and inner peace you guys must possess. :) Jul 24 15:22:22 sounds ZEN ;) ceda_wrk Jul 24 15:23:45 the swedish word "Sen", which sounds exactly like Zen (with swedish pronunciation), means "not now, sometime later". Jul 24 15:23:48 :) Jul 24 15:24:41 O_O Jul 24 15:26:22 a21_work: did i hear opimd-messages? Jul 24 15:26:27 (that's my testing stuff) Jul 24 15:26:49 yep!! it is definely _COOL_ Jul 24 15:27:13 a lot better than the standard sms app in shr Jul 24 15:28:53 a21_work: without even ability to write new message? ;) Jul 24 15:29:11 a21_work: well, i'm pround of my opimd-notifier, but with opimd-messages i'm not happy ;x Jul 24 15:29:12 it's a little bug ;) Jul 24 15:29:40 at least it could concatenate ;) Jul 24 15:30:19 do we have an api to send sms? Jul 24 15:31:12 I think that app can be easily fixed Jul 24 15:31:36 (I just launched, not used it yet) Jul 24 15:42:08 Gorbusch, you cannot git pull inside shr-unstable/openembedded Jul 24 15:42:14 it is not configured Jul 24 15:42:50 Gorbusch, but git pull origin shr/import:shr/import might work Jul 24 15:43:11 Ainulindale: Hi. I think I brought it up a few month ago, but maybe things have changed by now: SHR still depends on libetk, which supposedly is dead upstream. Ar there any plans to get rid of it? Jul 24 15:44:29 Alternatively, is libframeworkd-phonegui-gtk functional? Jul 24 15:45:48 nomeata, -gtk is *not* functional... and I don't know of anybody working on it Jul 24 15:46:03 but there is -gtk2 ... probably not yet functional either Jul 24 15:46:13 though somebody is working on it Jul 24 15:46:18 Deubeuliou, ping :) Jul 24 15:47:01 Deubeuliou, how's your gtk frontend coming along? Jul 24 15:49:08 @mrmoku, will try to find it out tomorrow. but normaly i should not have to configure anything with the makefile Jul 24 15:59:33 Gorbusch, well the Makefile does not git pull Jul 24 15:59:53 it does git fetch and checkout Jul 24 16:02:17 nomeata: about etk - it's used by phonegui-efl. phonegui-efl2 doesn't use that Jul 24 16:05:18 dos1: but it’s still listed in phonegui-efl2’s configure.ac Jul 24 16:05:41 nomeata: but that's fake dependency Jul 24 16:06:04 nomeata: looks like someone was too lazy to remove it from configure.ac :P Jul 24 16:07:47 is phonegui-efl2 usable? Jul 24 16:08:18 i think no ;x Jul 24 16:08:35 mrmoku: is it still segfaulting on recent frameworkd? Jul 24 16:08:42 :-( Jul 24 16:09:09 mrmoku, ur back, anything new? Jul 24 16:11:56 F4t, I think wifi does not survive suspend Jul 24 16:12:16 I have to manually turn it off in shr-settings to make it work again Jul 24 16:12:20 wifi in on state? or in off state? Jul 24 16:12:28 on state Jul 24 16:12:40 its far beyond mokonnect then.. :-/ Jul 24 16:13:04 yep Jul 24 16:13:19 nomeata, no, not yet usable :( Jul 24 16:13:43 mrmoku: is it still segfaulting? Jul 24 16:13:48 on contacts? Jul 24 16:14:54 dos1, no idea, guess everywhere :P Jul 24 16:15:01 did not look at it for some time now Jul 24 16:15:14 should do that... now that libfso-glib can do async calls Jul 24 16:16:16 dos1, btw.... where is tasn? hiding in opkg code? :P Jul 24 16:17:38 uh :x Jul 24 16:18:30 we really have to fix that... and we have to fix that *before* doing a testing image Jul 24 16:20:12 Ainulindale, ping Jul 24 16:21:46 F4t, what does connmand do regarding usb on startup (before starting mokonnect) Jul 24 16:22:21 mrmoku, since it currently can only do dhcp, it tries to configure it using dhcp once u plug a cable to the usb Jul 24 16:22:39 F4t, but configuring it statically with mokonnect works for me Jul 24 16:22:54 mrmoku, thats cause i do static configuration myself Jul 24 16:23:01 ahh :) Jul 24 16:23:02 ok Jul 24 16:23:17 mrmoku, i am considering dropping the whole mokonnect thing in regarding the usb connection... Jul 24 16:23:25 the whole connman* Jul 24 16:23:56 all i need is to implement call udhcp, and i can rid the world of the abomination some people call connman-plugin-ethernet Jul 24 16:24:08 huh... Holtmann wants to get the new releases/week record :P Jul 24 16:24:14 connman is on 0.36 now Jul 24 16:24:21 lol, seen that... Jul 24 16:24:31 so what do you think, in regarding the usb connection? Jul 24 16:25:00 F4t, well, what I would like to see is a default profile getting loaded on startup Jul 24 16:25:40 default mokonnect profile? or a correct default connman profile? or just anything that would quit changing the usb iface ip... Jul 24 16:25:51 so if you add some way to mokonnect to load a profile via commandline Jul 24 16:26:09 hmmm... commandline access can be easily done... Jul 24 16:26:50 in the end I don't care if it is a mokonnect or a real connman profile ;) Jul 24 16:26:51 im thinking more in the way of "opkg remove connman-plugin-ethernet" and implement the DHCP usb-con myself.. Jul 24 16:28:26 any disadvantages I should know of? Jul 24 16:28:57 F4t, hmm... no not a good idea Jul 24 16:29:08 what we want is automatically changing default routes Jul 24 16:29:23 define "automatically" Jul 24 16:30:11 mokonnect will handle default route perfectly, or are you talking about outside mokonnect? Jul 24 16:30:25 without mokonnect being started... Jul 24 16:30:26 dunno Jul 24 16:30:48 we might as well say that you have to start mokonnect Jul 24 16:30:55 might be fine as well... don't know Jul 24 16:31:21 you wish for default route to chaneg of its own accord outside of "i want to configure the network differently now"? Jul 24 16:31:27 what would trigger the change? Jul 24 16:34:31 unplugging usb for example Jul 24 16:34:51 mwester_ did implement that the kernel notifies that correctly Jul 24 16:34:55 we should use that now ;) Jul 24 16:35:09 theres still connman not supporting static config yet... Jul 24 16:35:32 even if i do implement cmdline profile applying, that won't help when u reconnect the usb cable Jul 24 16:35:44 connman would still do a dhcp resolve on the usbnet Jul 24 16:38:48 yep Jul 24 16:38:58 but they will work on that, no? Jul 24 16:39:12 did i mention yet that static configuration is not exactly connman's top priority :) Jul 24 16:39:34 ok, so you say it won't come anytime soon? Jul 24 16:40:05 i dont know, with the newley acquired release rate holtman might surprise me :P Jul 24 16:40:18 F4t, another thing that me created problems with connman is the loopback Jul 24 16:40:31 how? Jul 24 16:40:35 connman started to late to bring it up in time for x Jul 24 16:40:42 and x did not start without Jul 24 16:40:54 s/to/too/ Jul 24 16:41:16 does connman bring loop back up? Jul 24 16:41:20 i didnt think it touches it Jul 24 16:41:39 there is a plugin for loopback, no? Jul 24 16:42:00 mrmoku, im not sure, and if there is, why would one use it? Jul 24 16:42:27 F4t, good question ;) Jul 24 16:42:44 I would like to get rid of /etc/network alltogether Jul 24 16:43:01 but we can add a small bootscript for loopback only Jul 24 16:43:33 F4t, btw. mokonnect seems to hang when selecting a profile with usb and usb not connected Jul 24 16:43:37 possible? Jul 24 16:43:39 mrmoku, my advice is to let the simple stuff be configured as they are... so no need for loopback plugin for connman Jul 24 16:43:52 mrmoku, hang? perhaps wait for timeout? Jul 24 16:44:13 F4t, it hang for 30mins now Jul 24 16:44:26 that definetely shouldnt happen... Jul 24 16:44:27 showing the white screen with the log about dhcp, nat and such Jul 24 16:44:41 is it reproducible? (aka after clean reboot) Jul 24 16:44:52 are you trying to apply gprs? :P Jul 24 16:46:56