**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 24 02:59:57 2009 Aug 24 06:15:09 Weird, g_file_storage worked ok for me at home, now i came to work and it fails. I even can boot a PC from it but neither Linux nor windows can even read a partition table O.o Aug 24 06:15:40 PaulFertser: have you read my bug report about it? Aug 24 06:15:58 lindi-: i think i did but it was too long ago to remember Aug 24 06:16:08 lindi-: let me find it... Aug 24 06:19:25 lindi-: looks very-very similar Aug 24 06:19:29 PaulFertser: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=g_file_storage Aug 24 06:19:49 lindi-: sure, i used exactly that Aug 24 06:20:11 lindi-: funny thing is that it worked at home Aug 24 06:23:21 PaulFertser: just turn on debugging and it works Aug 24 06:23:26 * lindi- runs Aug 24 07:18:16 DocScrutinizer: too bad. wonder if there's a vm that supports "remapping a key" when a certain program is running - so that you could have different func. for different programs ? Aug 24 07:32:58 PaulFertser: hello good morning Aug 24 07:42:19 good morning Aug 24 07:49:10 s/running/active/ Aug 24 08:13:11 hello ptitjes :) Aug 24 08:24:31 hello Deubeuliou Aug 24 08:24:34 how are you ? Aug 24 08:24:39 hi, where i can download the latest SHR-unstable full image for the om-gta02? the only one i found is in a /old subdir, i'd better wait? Aug 24 08:25:47 dario: it seems that the latest is the one from the 08/08 Aug 24 08:25:51 ptitjes: fine. but tired. I'm moving... I packed stuff and disassemble things Aug 24 08:26:34 Deubeuliou: moving ?? holidays ? Aug 24 08:26:42 ptitjes, it seems so, but that image is clearly marked as "old" Aug 24 08:27:20 hi Aug 24 08:27:21 dario: oh! a full image is what you want... Aug 24 08:27:30 sorry did not get that Aug 24 08:27:50 yes, full image Aug 24 08:28:43 ptitjes: no, I take a room in Paris Aug 24 08:29:13 Deubeuliou: oh great! congrats Aug 24 08:29:14 a matchbox-sized one :) Aug 24 08:29:20 héhé Aug 24 08:29:54 Deubeuliou: that's what everybody start with :) Aug 24 08:31:12 yup Aug 24 08:39:55 [shr-u] hello all, i'm trying to build shr-u and wonder to the instructions on the trac site actually work Aug 24 08:42:27 The basic build instructions do work but then when I tried the getting started developing shr the build then fails when the apps are included in the build Aug 24 08:46:12 Arigead: "when the apps are included in the build" ? Aug 24 08:48:20 When the apps are included in the build as per those instructions I get an error: Aug 24 08:48:21 ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide virtual/xserver (/usr/local/working/openmoko/SHR/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+git.bb /usr/local/working/openmoko/SHR/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.4.0.90.bb). Aug 24 08:53:05 that shouldn't be a problem Aug 24 08:53:39 Ainulindale: make distro has not worked for a couple of weeks - fails on imlib2, is this a known problem? Aug 24 08:54:01 well it works on the buildhost apparently Aug 24 08:54:11 so I can't say Aug 24 08:58:39 Ainulindale: tkx, I look further - think its failing as it cant pull in a particular version, but uses an older one as a fallback ... and dies Aug 24 09:01:36 Ainulindale: When you say that error shouldn't be a problem does that imply that the build should not fail at that multiple xserver provider problem? Aug 24 09:05:27 Arigead: yes Aug 24 09:05:32 does shr provide by default gcc? Aug 24 09:05:46 no Aug 24 09:06:36 what is the recommended way of developing a simple elementary app in C? Aug 24 09:06:41 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary Aug 24 09:06:47 on desktop or on the phone? Aug 24 09:07:07 (I do paroli development in phone) Aug 24 09:07:09 desktop & cross Aug 24 09:07:53 huhh, then I need to find some e package for ubuntu 9.04 Aug 24 09:13:35 finally I have found this page: http://packages.enlightenment.org/ Aug 24 09:27:49 good morning Aug 24 09:53:14 hi, where i can download the latest SHR-unstable full image for the om-gta02? the only one i found is in a /old subdir, should i wait for a new one coming soon (matter of hours)? Aug 24 10:06:47 dario: I have no idea, but you could install the lite image, and then install the packages task-shr-games, task-shr-apps and task-shr-gtk Aug 24 10:09:52 sybren: thanks for your advice but i still find strange that nobody knows when a new image will be released Aug 24 10:10:54 and improving a shr-lite image brings the same advantages than flashing the old full (even because the lite image is from the 08/08, same date of the old full) Aug 24 10:11:12 *advantages and disadvantages Aug 24 10:25:05 dario: well, I'm just here because I want to get some occasional help too ;-) but that doesn't stop me from trying to help others. Aug 24 10:26:11 sybren: i know, like lots of people here, but in 103 people in the channel, is it possible that there's nobody who knows this thing? Aug 24 10:27:18 dario: there was a post on the mailing list about the full images being broken and to install the lite one and add the missing packages Aug 24 10:27:54 I think they are busy trying to fix bugs and have a problem with the buildhost, remember they have not released anything yet, the only images are just testing ones Aug 24 10:28:08 i totally missed that post, can you link it? Aug 24 10:28:29 erm hang on will have to find it in the archives Aug 24 10:29:08 because i didn't find it on the openmoko ml Aug 24 10:29:10 http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-user@lists.shr-project.org/msg01265.html Aug 24 10:29:38 dario: you are better off signing up for shr-user for SHR news :) Aug 24 10:30:44 thank you, i didn't know that ml, but i don't think to subscribe to it, i'm already following the shr blog Aug 24 10:31:40 anyway dos said: We're working on newer images, stay tuned ;) so i'm staying tuned and asking for news Aug 24 10:41:04 [shr-u] build fail. I'm trying to build shr-u but having a problem with "bitbake libframeworkd-phonegui-efl" If I do the basic build (Building SHR web page) this works. If however I follow the Getting Started Developing SHR and change local.conf to add the line "require local-builds.inc" the do configure of this fails and gives no real info in the logfile. Has anybody see this before? Aug 24 10:44:29 Arigead: hey, pastebin the do_configure log, it can't fail without a reason. Aug 24 10:45:04 Arigead: also are you sure you understand what local-builds mean? You have a device already, do you really want to debug anything on the host itself? Aug 24 11:00:23 PaulFertser: I just wanted to help out in SHR if I could so thought that following the instructions in "Getting Started Developing SHR" was a good enough place to start ;-) I'd be the first to admit I'm blindly following the instructions on the wiki. Without much success. Maybe at some point in time I'll be more productive to SHR but at present I'm just testing wiki pages. :-( Aug 24 11:01:22 Arigead: wiki page clearly states why for local-builds is used Aug 24 11:03:41 Setting the build system to prefer local apps: Now you must setup OpenEmbedded to select your local sources instead of official ones (from SHR repository). To do this edit conf/local.conf and add the following line: require local-builds.inc Aug 24 11:04:05 Arigead: "to prefer local apps" Aug 24 11:04:16 dos1: I'm not too convinced that the full repercussions are explained to a newbee in just the words "to prefer local apps" Aug 24 11:04:34 sybren: well, i'm sure there's something more about that Aug 24 11:04:44 when i was newbee i understood it ;x Aug 24 11:04:51 * dos1 is checking Aug 24 11:05:02 Just following the instructions and I've pasted in the instructions Aug 24 11:05:14 I think I understand it (being a newbee) but I don't know until I try it out and it doesn't spit back in my face ;-) Aug 24 11:05:54 well Aug 24 11:06:07 thats "Getting started *developing* SHR", not "building" Aug 24 11:06:17 so that sentence should be obvious :P Aug 24 11:06:20 yeah, so I skipped it ;-) Aug 24 11:07:10 So if I wanted to make a change to one of the Apps I don't follow those instructions? Aug 24 11:07:48 Arigead: which app, what do you want to change? Aug 24 11:08:07 Arigead: well, just read *carefully* and do what is written, not just dumb copy'n'paste Aug 24 11:08:24 Setting the build system to prefer local apps: Now you must setup OpenEmbedded to select your local sources instead of official ones (from SHR repository). To do this edit conf/local.conf and add the following line: require local-builds.inc Aug 24 11:08:50 Arigead: don't make me idiot, i already have whole page opened and read it before moment ;p Aug 24 11:10:11 Arigead: did you read that page *to end*? Aug 24 11:10:28 you need to edit conf/local-builds.inc to match your needs Aug 24 11:10:43 and it's clearly stated on this page Aug 24 11:11:14 Yes I read that page to the end and I followed all the instructions in that page. Edited conf/local-builds.inc as well Aug 24 11:11:41 so check if every value is correct, and if your sources are in correct place Aug 24 11:44:53 PaulFertser? I need help from a russian guy :-) Aug 24 11:45:27 need a new car? Aug 24 11:45:34 Neh Aug 24 11:45:42 Need to find help to send flowers to my girlfriend for her birthday Aug 24 11:45:55 She's at her parents' this week Aug 24 11:48:41 no fleurop there? Aug 24 11:49:34 and if not fleurop, ring up a local florist if there's any way to find one Aug 24 11:49:36 dos1 i've read this post (http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-user@lists.shr-project.org/msg01265.html) and i'd like to ask you if you know when a new shr unstable full image will be released. can you help me? Aug 24 12:00:12 dario: dunno Aug 24 12:00:33 dos1: thx for you email;) Aug 24 12:00:40 you->your Aug 24 12:00:57 I shooted a mail to morphis, hope he will read and act;) Aug 24 12:01:51 dos1: who knows it? it's a mistery like "what's the meaning of the life"? Aug 24 12:02:12 dario: i think that's right ;) Aug 24 12:03:39 dos1: so only God knows about SHR release cycles... Aug 24 12:05:23 dario: there is no such thing as "SHR release" Aug 24 12:07:23 dos1, i know sorry for my unappropriate statement, but seriously, i saw a lot of updates in the unstable branch why you (shr-devs) don't build a new image ready to flash? Aug 24 12:07:49 dario: cause person who was doing that is on vacations now :P Aug 24 12:07:50 considering the fact that there's no shr unstable full image actually Aug 24 12:08:34 dos1: thanks for your clear answer, was it so difficult ? :P Aug 24 12:10:42 yup, i'm hungry ;P Aug 24 12:10:54 and i'm irritated when i'm hungry Aug 24 12:11:13 but i'm too lazy to go for something to eat Aug 24 12:11:18 so i'm irritated even more Aug 24 12:13:53 dos1: s/irritated/angry/ and that's my text :-D Aug 24 12:13:57 Ainulindale: yeah Aug 24 12:17:15 Ainulindale: i'll ask guys who they do that, i never needed to do something _that_ stupid myself before. :P Aug 24 12:21:41 PaulFertser: I hate you :-) Aug 24 12:21:45 PaulFertser: but I'm in a hurry Aug 24 12:21:51 PaulFertser: it's for wednesday Aug 24 12:21:52 Ainulindale: what's deadline? Aug 24 12:21:55 Ainulindale: ok... Aug 24 12:22:07 Ainulindale: i don't think it's any hard to arrange that tomorrow. Aug 24 12:22:19 Yeah but if I have the info (website or anything) I can do it today :-) Aug 24 12:22:25 Most of the shops have 48H delays Aug 24 12:22:27 Ainulindale: what amount of money are you ready to spend? Aug 24 12:22:33 Ainulindale: i'll ask guys at work now. Aug 24 12:22:36 I don't care as long as it's pretty Aug 24 12:22:44 (white flowers though) Aug 24 12:22:48 Ainulindale: man you're mad Aug 24 12:22:54 PaulFertser: Yeah kinda Aug 24 12:23:03 PaulFertser: But picture that Aug 24 12:23:10 Flowers for free sex Aug 24 12:23:15 It's a good deal Aug 24 12:23:29 Ainulindale: it's already not free then! Aug 24 12:23:37 :-) Aug 24 12:23:41 Dumbas Aug 24 12:23:42 +s Aug 24 12:23:51 By the way PaulFertser Aug 24 12:24:04 Would you be experimented wrt libgsmd? Aug 24 12:24:18 Ainulindale: never touched or saw. Aug 24 12:24:22 Ainulindale: Interflora? (i thought that's what they're there for..) Aug 24 12:24:31 Ainulindale: i came long after it was obsolete already. Aug 24 12:26:08 Ainulindale: i'm at work currently, i'll find out the info for sure today. Aug 24 12:26:24 Weiss: already had a look at it Aug 24 12:26:55 It's doable but flowers there are not that good to my eyes :-) Aug 24 12:27:04 PaulFertser: thanks a lot :-) Aug 24 12:27:05 Ainulindale: probably in the evening but today. Also be prepared most our businesses don't accept visa payments and no paypal. That's not a big issue, i know how to workaround that. Aug 24 12:27:39 PaulFertser: dark ages I see :-) Aug 24 12:29:46 Weiss: and it seems that their locations are 4h away from the place she lives in Aug 24 12:31:16 ah :S Aug 24 12:31:27 yeah :-) Aug 24 12:31:45 plus she lives in a small village near Velikiye Luki Aug 24 12:31:53 (her parents, that is) Aug 24 12:37:54 mickey|bbl or dos1 Aug 24 12:38:01 How could I see the timeouts for AT commands on ogsmd? Aug 24 12:38:41 Ainulindale: probably in source :D Aug 24 12:38:46 Yeah but where :-) Aug 24 12:39:18 I'm looking for the timeout for SimRetrievePhonebook Aug 24 12:39:32 I have no idea where to look Aug 24 12:39:35 framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ Aug 24 12:39:41 for calypso stuff: Aug 24 12:39:48 framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/ Aug 24 12:39:50 Well I was looking there Aug 24 12:39:52 And saw nothing useful Aug 24 12:39:57 Hence my question :-) Aug 24 12:40:51 well, i don't know ogsmd ;) Aug 24 12:40:59 Sadly neither do I Aug 24 12:41:06 maybe look at changes in mickey/new-timeouts branch (or something like that) Aug 24 12:41:58 well Aug 24 12:42:01 he removed the stuff Aug 24 12:42:03 the sad bastard! Aug 24 12:43:10 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout ? Aug 24 12:43:19 he removed timeouts Aug 24 12:43:38 oh Aug 24 12:43:40 :D Aug 24 12:43:47 I was just looking for an idea about what would be a good timeout for +CPBR Aug 24 12:43:55 (phonebook get range) Aug 24 12:46:23 Ainulindale: is there any reason to support managing phonebook on the SIM? Aug 24 12:46:37 can i somehow display the battery charge in the console? Aug 24 12:46:47 naeg: the capacity file Aug 24 12:46:53 lindi-: yeah, initial import Aug 24 12:47:03 lindi-: that's problematic on rev4 Aug 24 12:47:14 lindi-: where is it? can't search for it atm Aug 24 12:47:22 naeg: i always search for it Aug 24 12:47:33 naeg: find /sys | grep capacity ;P Aug 24 12:47:51 naeg: cat $(find /sys -name capacity) Aug 24 12:48:09 very efficient interface : Aug 24 12:48:11 :) Aug 24 12:48:16 thanks all :) Aug 24 12:48:33 dos1: why grep?? Aug 24 12:48:52 DocScrutinizer: dunno, i just got used to ;x Aug 24 12:50:06 and how does this file get created? Aug 24 12:51:08 naeg: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/bq27k-detail Aug 24 12:52:16 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers Aug 24 12:53:18 thanks DocScrutinizer Aug 24 12:53:19 naeg: you might want to "opkg install bash" to run the bq27k-detail script Aug 24 12:53:51 it's for my archlinux port, someone asked for it Aug 24 12:54:02 our* ;) Aug 24 12:55:22 naeg: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#power_supply_battery_information http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#new:_.2Fsys.2Fclass.2Fpower_supply.2Fbattery.2F... Aug 24 12:56:42 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#power_supply_battery_in │ khiraly1 Aug 24 12:56:56 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#power_supply_battery_in │ khiraly1 Aug 24 12:57:10 sry..not used to weechat :/ Aug 24 12:57:23 hmm? Aug 24 12:58:06 i wanted to open the link, but as it seems weechat has problems with links which are longer than 1 line, so it somehow marked your name with the link and posted it Aug 24 12:58:23 better say urxvt has this problem Aug 24 12:59:42 mickey|bbl: PaulFertser: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=GTA02_sysfs&oldid=41944#.2Fsys.2Fdevices.2Fplatform.2Fbq27000-battery.0.2Fpower_supply.2Fbat.2Fstatus Aug 24 13:00:52 * DocScrutinizer dumbass always trying to explain, while it's been there in crisp clear words all the time Aug 24 13:01:21 thanks Andy :-) Aug 24 13:01:27 PaulFertser: so? :-) Aug 24 13:17:21 any native japanese speaking people in here? Aug 24 13:25:10 PaulFertser: no news yet? :-p Aug 24 13:46:30 lol @ "Please stop doing things of questionable productivity. :S" Aug 24 14:39:56 mickey|bbl: may I update fala-fso ? Aug 24 14:40:04 hum vala-fso ? Aug 24 15:37:38 question - is there known flaky-ness with SHR-U and GSM? Twice on the weekend I tried to make outgoing calls and had the Dialer just die on me. Both times I had to do a reboot before I could make the outgoing call. Aug 24 15:41:22 wjbaird: do you have it upgraded? Aug 24 15:41:25 here it works perfectly Aug 24 15:41:39 dos1: I upgraded early last week... I think Tuesday... Aug 24 15:41:47 wjbaird: so it's old ;P Aug 24 15:42:21 dos1: :-) Guess so... Is the current build stable? I saw something on the mailing list about gsm not working at all... Aug 24 15:42:55 wjbaird: gsm wasn't working for few hours, and it was fixed after that Aug 24 15:42:56 wjbaird: read until the end, it is fixed now ;) Aug 24 15:43:34 any progress on getting a slightly more stable testing image? I don't mind so much if things like wifi aren't working, but i use my phone for work, and kinda need reliable phone behaviour... Aug 24 15:53:18 dos1: I'm upgrading again now - but I see some messages about "unsatisfied recommendation for gio-2.0-dev", and the same for gobject-2.0-dev and gmodule-2.0-dev - is that anything to worry about? Aug 24 15:53:59 wjbaird: no, probably you have some unneeded -dev packages, as they were installing on old images Aug 24 15:54:03 wjbaird: so just ignore it Aug 24 15:54:17 dos1: k - thx Aug 24 15:58:35 dos1: ping Aug 24 16:08:11 dos1: any way to usefully switch messages_default_backend to SQLite-Messages yet? i.e. - any way to get messages if I do? Aug 24 16:10:08 wjbaird: Aug 24 16:10:10 ~opimd-utils Aug 24 16:10:12 ~opimd-messages Aug 24 16:10:22 ... Aug 24 16:10:23 stupid bot ;p Aug 24 16:10:35 wjbaird: well, if you're just user, then answer is "no" Aug 24 16:10:48 wjbaird: if you're geek, then answer is "you can do something with it" ;P Aug 24 16:12:14 dos1: :-) Well, I think I'm a geek --- but I'm a geek with a full-time job, a wife, a kid, two girlfriends, and a pretty serious hobby as an artist... so unfortunately when it comes to the FR, I'm mostly just a user... Aug 24 16:13:30 dos1: so if 'you can do something with it' means 'spend a whole lot of time tinkering' - I'm probably out... If it's 'manually install and configure something', I might be able to deal with it... Aug 24 16:15:08 install with opkg, use, discover it's unusable due to lack of good software using opimd, uninstall OR live with very limited functionality of frontend, even if opimd itself supports something Aug 24 16:15:21 so probably you shouldn't do that ;) Aug 24 16:16:44 dos1: agreed - doesn't sound exciting --- and while I'd love to try to write something that does support opimd... that's unlikely to happen any time soon... Maybe once my daughter hits 3 or 4 years old, I can teach her to hack python... Aug 24 16:24:04 dos1: is the launcher at the bottom of the new "blue" theme flauncher? Aug 24 16:24:37 BluesLee: flaunch, yup Aug 24 16:25:39 dos1: unfortunately, flaunch is to slow for using categories and to switch between them Aug 24 16:26:33 dos1: oh okay, it was sortdesk which is slow Aug 24 16:26:50 dos1: you use flaunch only for the main gsm apps .. Aug 24 16:31:00 BluesLee: heyho! couldn't reach you to ask how to stuff that huge envelope. so it's on its way almost empty since ~1h Aug 24 16:35:09 DocScrutinizer: hehe, thanx ... i couldnt find a smaller one to put the din a5 one in Aug 24 16:38:06 well, I'm talking bout A5 one. It could contain a lot more than just a couple of gps-ant. wasn't sure though about what I should throw in. The standards like spare-bat are somewhat out of stock here. And I didn't know if sth like a case wouldn't just go to the bin Aug 24 16:38:35 DocScrutinizer: i hope its the internal antenna ... nevertheless i will buy a soldering iron to check it with my antenna Aug 24 16:39:58 BluesLee: the pair I sent to you should fit. looks rather similar to original one. So no iron needed for now ;-) Aug 24 16:40:27 DocScrutinizer: thank you doc, i used a skin for the neo case, so its in a good shape Aug 24 16:43:22 DocScrutinizer: but good to know that you have all kind of replacements Aug 24 16:43:42 a few Aug 24 16:44:41 more by incident (couldn't watch them go to the junkyard when OM cleaned their stocks) Aug 24 16:45:41 DocScrutinizer: good choice to keep the stuff Aug 24 16:46:47 just saved as much as I was allowed to get with me on the flight back Aug 24 16:50:05 how many parts are allowed? Aug 24 16:51:29 alas a few very essential parts miss in my heap of crap: (power/aux)switches, LCM, BT & wlan-modules... Aug 24 16:52:05 Hey, i want to execute an python script on resume from suspend on my freerunner. is this possible? Aug 24 16:52:22 (how many) what was left over on the 20kg of luggage allowed Aug 24 16:53:07 Slyon: seems low level plugins of fso is exactly what you need Aug 24 16:53:43 Slyon: it's a quite new concept, and I don't know any details about it Aug 24 16:54:10 DocScrutinizer, that's sad. do you know if there is any documentation? Aug 24 16:54:26 mickey|bbl: ping Aug 24 16:54:39 mickey|bbl: ^ Aug 24 16:56:01 okay, so i'll ask mickey if he's back Aug 24 16:56:03 thanks Aug 24 16:56:31 yw Aug 24 17:02:32 dos1: can i do an opkg upgrade, is it safe in the moment? Aug 24 17:02:45 it should be safe Aug 24 17:03:09 maybe not... Aug 24 17:03:21 I just did one a few minutes ago, and looks like GSM is dead... :-( Aug 24 17:03:31 wjbaird: you broke something ;P Aug 24 17:03:32 yeah you never know Aug 24 17:03:43 okay, i will wait Aug 24 17:03:48 hehe Aug 24 17:04:08 BluesLee: everything works here and for people on maillists ;P Aug 24 17:04:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r36d9f6a6b523 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_powersupply/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: kernel26_powersupply: fix dbus query methods Aug 24 17:04:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc05cee8ac6d5 10/ (9 files in 6 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:cornucopia Aug 24 17:04:15 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * racaac0d31f6c 10/ (18 files in 5 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:cornucopia Aug 24 17:04:15 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r03ca7640995f 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:cornucopia Aug 24 17:04:17 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfe62a26ebd13 10/misc-vapi/vapi/linux26.vapi: misc-vapi: linux26: bind timegm(3) Aug 24 17:04:35 mickey|patio: ping? Aug 24 17:04:45 pong Aug 24 17:04:50 I'm seeing a lot of: ** (process:1479): DEBUG: list_resources() Aug 24 17:04:50 ** (process:1479): DEBUG: list_resources_callback() Aug 24 17:04:50 ** (process:1479): DEBUG: GSM not available, try again in 5s Aug 24 17:04:57 any suggestions? Aug 24 17:05:02 wjbaird: check fsousaged Aug 24 17:05:05 BluesLee: the result of feed downloads is depending on a random generator, so you simply can not wait for a good moment ;-P Aug 24 17:05:40 mickey|patio: did you check low_level.openmoko? for me it seems it sends "busy" when resume from gsm, and "idle" when from power button Aug 24 17:05:48 mickey|patio: so it's swapped ;x Aug 24 17:05:59 dos1: check for what? The process is running - Aug 24 17:06:01 mickey|patio: docs for low level plugins? Aug 24 17:06:18 DocScrutinizer: i have the same issue with flashing images, some work for me some not Aug 24 17:06:18 DocScrutinizer: i don't think they can be written in python easly ;) Aug 24 17:06:43 Slyon: just listen to dbus signal saying 'RESUME' - check with mdbus what signal it is Aug 24 17:06:55 dos1: is the contest for the shr logo and for the default theme finished? Aug 24 17:06:55 dos1: that'd be reversed, indeed. let me check the code flow Aug 24 17:07:17 dos1: yay, thanks. that's a good hint :) i'll try it Aug 24 17:07:51 dos1: any hints on fsousaged? Aug 24 17:08:32 dos1: I've got lowlevel_type = openmoko in my frameworkd.conf - I think that's correct... Aug 24 17:08:49 wjbaird: yup, and [fsousage.lowlevel_openmoko] Aug 24 17:09:08 dos1: there's nothing in [fsousage.lowlevel_openmoko] Aug 24 17:09:14 wjbaird: that's ok Aug 24 17:09:29 wjbaird: killall -9 ophonekitd; /etc/init.d/frameworkd stop; fsousaged Aug 24 17:09:37 heyho Aug 24 17:09:46 wjbaird: and then in another console: /etc/init.d/frameworkd start, and then start ophonekitd in shr-settings Aug 24 17:09:48 morphis: hi! Aug 24 17:09:56 morphis: i need something from ya ;> Aug 24 17:10:01 hey dos1 Aug 24 17:10:07 dos1: what? Aug 24 17:10:42 morphis: working anchors ;) Aug 24 17:10:50 morphis: there is no way to check what anchor was clicked Aug 24 17:11:06 hm Aug 24 17:11:24 dos1: I get a bunch of errors when I do the first command: the end is "ERROR:subsystem.c:1286:fso_framework_dbus_subsystem_real_registerServiceObject: assertion failed: (conn != NULL) Aug 24 17:11:25 Aborted Aug 24 17:11:27 dos1: did you looked already on the code? Aug 24 17:11:57 morphis: yup, there is comment with "TODO" for that ;> Aug 24 17:12:06 where? Aug 24 17:12:14 wjbaird: oh, killall fsousaged before Aug 24 17:12:18 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re6ace93d37f7 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_rtc/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: kernel26_rtc: do not use mktime as it's using local time (d'oh!), better use timegm which uses UTC Aug 24 17:12:28 dos1: ah I see Aug 24 17:13:03 dos1: not quite a 5 minute work Aug 24 17:13:03 I will see how fast I can solve that Aug 24 17:13:14 otherwise you can try to fix it Aug 24 17:13:47 I am now afk for quite some time Aug 24 17:14:16 dos1: same thing: "GSM not available, try again in 5s" --- btw, I rebooted after my upgrade, I assume that would have done all this kind of cleanup? Aug 24 17:14:21 mickey|bbl: hehe, nasty bug Aug 24 17:15:52 DocScrutinizer: yeah, i couldn't make sense out of RTC values for hours Aug 24 17:16:01 then i straced... and found the sucker reading /etc/localtime ;) Aug 24 17:16:58 mickey|bbl: I expect to see particularly funny effects on setting locale/TZ Aug 24 17:18:12 *nod* Aug 24 17:18:24 me too Aug 24 17:20:12 time(zones) are a can of worms Aug 24 17:20:21 hehe, ""NEVER adjust backward the system time of a unix system"". Alas nobody can rely on that, as nobody really cares Aug 24 17:21:03 for some reason my ubuntu chose to interpret RTC in local time Aug 24 17:21:10 i guess they're looking for windows on the system Aug 24 17:21:21 hehehe Aug 24 17:21:22 which this particular laptop still has somewhere Aug 24 17:21:36 IBM rescue partition... Aug 24 17:21:42 I guess that's default still Aug 24 17:21:58 to have local RTC Aug 24 17:22:23 might be, yah. changed it somewhere in /etc, rebooted, then things went better Aug 24 17:22:33 so I don't even expect ubuntu to care if there's windoof or not Aug 24 17:23:39 do you guys plan to release a milestone or branch in the next future? Aug 24 17:23:58 I'd love to push fsodeviced into SHR, but of course the timing is important Aug 24 17:24:10 seems it like duke nukem forever Aug 24 17:24:11 since it will have bugs Aug 24 17:24:15 RSN Aug 24 17:24:18 :-P Aug 24 17:25:03 DocScrutinizer: ubuntu cares if windows is installed Aug 24 17:25:09 they have "migration assistant" Aug 24 17:25:40 ah right Aug 24 17:25:41 dos1: wow, so even more braindead smartness ;-P Aug 24 17:25:54 on my workstation, i found this /etc rtc thing to be set to UTC Aug 24 17:25:56 dos1: I tried opkg install -force-reinstall libfsotransport0 as someone suggested on the ML. and then the shutdown/startup process you described, and now things are working... so did the upgrade miss a step? Aug 24 17:26:01 (right from the start) Aug 24 17:26:01 i have my rtc in UTC ;) Aug 24 17:26:13 is there a bug tracker of FSO Aug 24 17:26:49 Sup3rkiddo: trac.freesmartphone.org Aug 24 17:26:49 I was thinking I could fix small ones over weekends and let the big guys deal with the heavy lifting :P Aug 24 17:26:56 Sup3rkiddo: wah, that'd be cool! Aug 24 17:27:12 not resolving :/ Aug 24 17:27:51 strange! trac.freesmartphone.org. 10000 IN A 134.169.172.109 Aug 24 17:28:02 cargolifter for the big guys ;-) Aug 24 17:28:23 fso trac works here Aug 24 17:28:54 hmmm... Aug 24 17:29:05 surely it cannot be blocked here :D.. Aug 24 17:29:36 mickey|patio: isn't #403 already fixed in fsodeviced? Aug 24 17:30:09 dos1: yeah. this is one of those which i do not plan to fix in fso1 Aug 24 17:30:10 okie works now Aug 24 17:30:14 :/ Aug 24 17:30:16 dos1: should fix it with a note Aug 24 17:30:17 cleared the cache Aug 24 17:30:25 weiiiirdd Aug 24 17:31:02 dos1: we could fix it of course, but I think the time is spent better bringing fsodeviced up for prime time Aug 24 17:31:27 mickey|patio: ok, so if it's already done in fsodeviced it can be closed, can't it? ;) Aug 24 17:31:28 i need to do a run through the whole trac these days Aug 24 17:31:44 dos1: yes, i think so. will do that, but move the component beforehand Aug 24 17:33:08 mickey|patio: about #239 - i saw something related to coldplug in cornucopia Aug 24 17:33:49 (heavy lifting) ...or this one: http://www.ttfijnmechanica.nl/english/images/img_product_heavylifting4.jpg Aug 24 17:34:23 DocScrutinizer, so, you were googling for that all along? Aug 24 17:35:21 dos1: yeah, but iirc that refers to kickstarting the battery uevent notifications. we still need to check on startup whether the buttons/switches listed are already pushed. Moving component as well here, since this won't happen in osuaged anymore but rather fsousaged Aug 24 17:35:23 err Aug 24 17:35:24 device Aug 24 17:35:32 :-( :-( so, after upgrading this morning, and doing a opkg install -force-reinstall libfsotransport0 I'm finally getting the GSM up, and I can make outgoing calls, but when I call my cellphone I get a 'this number is out of service' message... Any suggestions? Aug 24 17:35:37 Sup3rkiddo: my doc has told me I mustn't lift anything havier than a watermelon. So... Aug 24 17:36:07 mickey|patio: could you also just look for tickets with HasPatch now? Aug 24 17:36:24 mickey|patio: maybe some of them are usable, but they seem to be forgotten :( Aug 24 17:36:49 yes. i have some more time for fso this week than the weeks before. Aug 24 17:36:50 and there is nothing worse than usable and good patch being forgotten :P Aug 24 17:36:57 *nod* Aug 24 17:37:18 i have to say the same for raster Aug 24 17:37:33