**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 16 02:59:57 2009 Sep 16 05:17:01 hi all Sep 16 05:41:33 playya_, ping Sep 16 05:41:57 playya_, gst-plugin-soup_DEPENDS += "libsoup-2.4" Sep 16 05:41:57 +gst-plugins-mmssrc_DEPENDS += "libmms" Sep 16 05:42:11 looks somewhat strange... is it gst-plugin or gst-plugins? Sep 16 05:53:06 mrmoku: fix plz deps of fso-abyss. it doesnt install libfsotransport0 but depends on it in runtime Sep 16 06:51:42 mrmoku: ping.. Sep 16 06:52:55 maybe I would send you pub-key after all, because neo-theme patches are bigger than new ml size limit.. and it would be easier to push it directly.. Sep 16 06:55:06 JaMa, go ahead :) Sep 16 07:09:09 JaMa, done Sep 16 07:25:38 mrmoku: thanks Sep 16 07:35:24 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * r34592efbfa0a 10/elementary/elementary-theme-neo/ (62 files): Initial import elementary-theme-neo Sep 16 07:40:47 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * r37bac7e57e65 10/etk/etk-theme-neo/ (157 files in 4 dirs): Initial import etk-theme-neo Sep 16 07:40:54 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * rb2f74e1f8c19 10/gpe/theme-neo/pixmaps/ (36 files in 4 dirs): Initial import gpe-theme-neo Sep 16 07:40:55 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * r398ab9b5fd60 10/gtk/neo-theme-gtk-qad/ (50 files in 13 dirs): Initial import neo-theme-gtk-qad Sep 16 07:40:55 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * r32b74d957b73 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-neo/ (65 files): Initial import e-wm-theme-illume-neo Sep 16 07:41:00 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * ra9f2397f7d76 10/icons/icon-theme-neo/ (844 files in 6 dirs): Initial import icon-theme-neo Sep 16 07:41:02 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * r12f5e73b6822 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/theme-neo/ (12 files in 11 dirs): Initial import libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo Sep 16 07:55:20 How's testing doing? Sep 16 08:50:35 Good morning from Spain Sep 16 08:51:32 I am a R&D engineer that he is working with SHR distribution Sep 16 08:51:57 I am building a new application using cloud computing nodes Sep 16 08:52:22 We have a small problem with GTK+ and our application Sep 16 08:53:47 please I can ask for a small help? Sep 16 08:55:17 hello? Sep 16 09:23:43 No1: seems nobody here now. what's the problem? Sep 16 09:24:09 Hi Sep 16 09:24:17 :) Sep 16 09:24:32 We are developing a gtk application Sep 16 09:24:37 that works OK Sep 16 09:24:51 and communicate with a external API Sep 16 09:25:07 In other platforms works perfectly Sep 16 09:25:14 but using SHR Sep 16 09:25:31 we have a problem when the User interface is loading Sep 16 09:25:34 the sentence Sep 16 09:25:44 gtk_widget_show Sep 16 09:26:09 the IU appears but when we invoke the API we get a segmentation error Sep 16 09:26:11 :( Sep 16 09:26:22 and It is not a API problem Sep 16 09:26:35 the problem is the GTK version for SHR Sep 16 09:26:38 any idea? Sep 16 09:29:19 No1: is GTK version of SHR too old? Sep 16 09:30:07 No1: do you do g_thread_init(NULL); ? Sep 16 09:30:58 gtk+ - 2.16.0-r1.1 Sep 16 09:31:16 No, I don't Sep 16 09:32:03 My code is: Sep 16 09:32:07 gtk_widget_show (jobma->window); Sep 16 09:32:07 gtk_main(); Sep 16 09:32:17 jobma is a C struct Sep 16 09:32:30 with the used widgets Sep 16 09:32:52 the g_thread_init(null) is necessary? Sep 16 09:37:42 woosh segfaulted too at the beginning Sep 16 09:38:07 but after adding this line it works Sep 16 09:38:50 and it's called before gtk_init(); Sep 16 09:39:53 I will try Sep 16 09:39:56 it Sep 16 09:43:12 thanks :) Sep 16 09:43:44 it's working? Sep 16 09:46:08 wait 10 minutes, sorry Sep 16 09:52:41 installing in neo free runner Sep 16 09:52:43 :) Sep 16 09:55:21 doesn' t work Sep 16 09:58:07 :( Sep 16 09:58:18 then no idea Sep 16 09:58:37 the API call works before "gtk_widget_show" Sep 16 09:58:47 but later... it is impossible Sep 16 09:59:08 dont worry and thanks for your attention Sep 16 10:00:48 what does gdb says? Sep 16 10:01:14 sorry I was off for a dinner Sep 16 10:03:09 tell dos1 plz that he has a misprint in frameworkd's pimb_sqlite_dates.py in add_date_to_db Sep 16 10:03:11 I am installing the debugger in Neo Free runner Sep 16 10:17:15 Q-Master: what exactly? Sep 16 10:18:04 gdb Sep 16 10:34:33 Any ideas why I can't make ssh login with keys to work on SHR? I installed ssh-keygen and copied the id_rsa.pub content to host computers (.ssh/authorized_keys) - but it still keeps asking for the password.. Sep 16 10:35:24 mrmoku|away: where can one have a look at the subversion packaging stuff you've tried? any logs or something? Sep 16 10:36:50 Heinervdm: there are twice mentioned End in sql query. the second should be Message Sep 16 10:37:08 Q-Master: ups, my fault :) Sep 16 10:43:25 8) Sep 16 10:44:13 ~seen morphis Sep 16 10:44:14 morphis was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 18h 10m 53s ago, saying: 'heyho'. Sep 16 11:11:11 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * ra75089222c6c 10/elementary/elementary-theme-neo/dia_grad.png: elementary-theme-neo: missing dia_grad.png added from ver 0.1 Sep 16 11:21:36 rhkfin, http://shr.pastebin.com/d566be78f while building apr-util Sep 16 11:22:06 rhkfin, do you try it with dropbear or openssh? Sep 16 11:30:03 mrmoku, morning. do you cherry pick gst-plugins-bad somewhere? Sep 16 11:30:51 i see my patches on git.shr but after a make update they are gone Sep 16 11:32:59 playya__, I don't follow you? Sep 16 11:33:25 mrmoku: dropbear Sep 16 11:33:28 mrmoku: thanks for the paste Sep 16 11:34:29 mrmoku: so subversion requires apt-util?! Sep 16 11:34:34 rhkfin, I never tried key-auth with dropbear... with openssh it works like a charm :) Sep 16 11:34:39 rhkfin, yep Sep 16 11:34:55 playya__, what do you mean? Sep 16 11:35:38 I can see me my patch in git.shr Sep 16 11:35:40 mrmoku: ok.. Sep 16 11:36:06 but yesterday i ran make update and it was gone Sep 16 11:36:57 playya__, if you 'cd openembedded; git show' it does not show you the libmms thing as last patch? Sep 16 11:37:12 1 s Sep 16 11:37:20 playya__, btw... I had a question regarding the other one (adding it to gst) Sep 16 11:37:38 it was about the gst-souphttpsrc Sep 16 11:37:58 16-09-2009 07:42:09 > mrmoku: playya_, gst-plugin-soup_DEPENDS += "libsoup-2.4" Sep 16 11:38:01 16-09-2009 07:42:09 > mrmoku: +gst-plugins-mmssrc_DEPENDS += "libmms" Sep 16 11:38:04 16-09-2009 07:42:23 > mrmoku: looks somewhat strange... is it gst-plugin or gst-plugins? Sep 16 11:38:23 hmm. i compiled it and it works Sep 16 11:38:29 strange though Sep 16 11:38:39 but maybe because of libmms was installed Sep 16 11:39:01 probably ;) Sep 16 11:39:13 gst is like e: if you have the depency it builds it Sep 16 11:39:42 if you want to force some part and you don't have the depency, it's silently ignored Sep 16 11:40:04 i think that should be gst-plugin-mmssrc Sep 16 11:40:53 playya__, want me to add it? Sep 16 11:40:55 the other strange thing: this creates a libmms.so -> normal package name: gst-plugin-mms Sep 16 11:41:08 can you test it first somewhere? Sep 16 11:41:22 just build test Sep 16 11:41:39 yes Sep 16 11:42:23 it should be enough to remove libmms, libsoup-2.4 and rebuild gst-plugins-bad Sep 16 11:43:32 ok, doing that now Sep 16 11:44:30 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * rae0c0f78e8f0 10/ (932 files in 25 dirs): nEo themes: fix file permissions Sep 16 11:44:45 oh. we have a new themer? Sep 16 11:44:53 git show shows me libmms Sep 16 11:45:29 someone wanting to try new bbfiles for nEo themes? Sep 16 11:46:03 my freerunner is offline now.. because I killed connman :/ so I cannot try remotely... Sep 16 11:46:37 playya__: thats Bernd Prünster's nEo theme... Sep 16 11:47:06 wow. monster commit Sep 16 11:48:11 but yes. who needs a pic with +x Sep 16 11:48:17 .. I should have checked permissions on files decomiled from edjs before :/ Sep 16 11:48:55 JaMa: is it packaged? Sep 16 11:50:26 Heinervdm: i can upload it somewhere.. Sep 16 11:50:53 JaMa: we can ping mrmoku :) Sep 16 11:51:01 Heinervdm: but its not tested at all and it changes also standard etk/libframeworkd-phonegui files.. so you have to be carefull Sep 16 11:51:25 Heinervdm: I don't want to send it to patchwork before testing at home.. :) Sep 16 11:51:36 JaMa: me FR is currently just a test enviroment Sep 16 11:51:58 then give me the packages, i will try Sep 16 11:52:03 ok, mmt Sep 16 11:57:07 http://git.xfce.org/apps/midori/commit/?id=178098d88665ec3a14ac9e306a99ba1fa972a04b Our iPhone patch made it into midori ;) Sep 16 12:24:55 Heinervdm: http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/Others/neo-themes/ Sep 16 12:25:28 Heinervdm: if you really want to try it :) Sep 16 12:25:54 Heinervdm: if something goes wrong please send me ls -lR from modified directories.. Sep 16 12:26:24 I'll test it after arriving home.. maybe today or tomorrow.. Sep 16 12:28:15 JaMa: icon-theme-neo is missing Sep 16 12:29:58 Heinervdm: you're right.. mmt I'll upload Sep 16 12:31:49 JaMa: elementary-theme-shr too? Sep 16 12:31:50 Heinervdm: done Sep 16 12:32:10 Heinervdm: missing? Sep 16 12:32:19 yes Sep 16 12:32:26 problem! Sep 16 12:32:46 that are too many packages for a bash line :D Sep 16 12:34:23 There is no elementary-theme-shr in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ Sep 16 12:39:50 with latest midori, if you go full screen there is no way to switch back! Sep 16 12:42:41 BillK: hmm, your right, how does it was before? Sep 16 12:48:11 yipiee. e segfaults on initial setup Sep 16 12:52:46 Heinervdm: small icon on top right of window ... dont know where its gone, Sep 16 12:52:54 but its useless as is :( Sep 16 12:53:39 BillK: hmm, then that was removed by the midori dev's Sep 16 12:54:14 I presume they have a keyboard - its something like F11 ... dont thein the FR can do that Sep 16 12:54:25 as well its only useful as a browser in Sep 16 12:54:33 landscape mode, and you Sep 16 12:54:49 dont have a usable keyboard then anyway :( Sep 16 12:55:05 me too Sep 16 12:55:28 i will ask midori dev's how to bring that button back Sep 16 12:55:56 tkx, its not much use as is - also, next time you start midori, Sep 16 12:56:14 its still in full screen mode ... you have to edit the config Sep 16 12:56:23 file to get normal back. Sep 16 13:07:34 playya__, hmm gst-plugin-soup_DEPENDS should be DEPENDS_gst-plugin-soup no? Sep 16 13:08:05 gst-plugin-soup worked for me Sep 16 13:08:12 and then... why not just add them to DEPENDS? Sep 16 13:08:13 _DEPENDS Sep 16 13:08:41 because you only have to install soup if you install gst-souphttpsrc Sep 16 13:09:40 if you have one big package gst-plugins-bad with all plugins istead of a meta package it would be in DEPENDS Sep 16 13:10:00 atm I'm doing a rebuild from scratch Sep 16 13:10:29 mrmoku: ever tested RPM5? Sep 16 13:14:02 DocScrutinizer-8, RPM5? as in RedhatPackageManager? :P Sep 16 13:14:12 yep Sep 16 13:14:35 as in RPM Packet Manager 5 Sep 16 13:14:42 DocScrutinizer-8, 4.7.1 is what I have on my desktop... so no Sep 16 13:14:56 is it a meta package manager? Sep 16 13:15:24 aiui it knows meta as well Sep 16 13:15:32 yup Sep 16 13:17:01 if we ever decide to abandon opkg, rpm5 might be worth a visit Sep 16 13:17:45 * mrmoku would be very much in favour of it :P Sep 16 13:23:09 * playya__ is waiting for apt2 written in vala instead of c++ Sep 16 13:35:07 * mrmoku would consider that a step backwards ;) Sep 16 13:35:20 vala >> c++ Sep 16 13:35:28 in the near future ;) Sep 16 13:35:36 only when sorted alphabetically ;) Sep 16 13:36:20 * mrmoku hides to avoid some language-of-preference discussion :P Sep 16 13:36:21 bbiab Sep 16 13:59:59 si c'est pas la dernière, faut juste faire gaffe qu'il y ait pas de conflit entre le patch et le changement de révison Sep 16 14:00:03 oops Sep 16 14:40:18 my freerunner has an offset of ~200 pixel in the y axis. any ideas how to fix it? Sep 16 14:40:36 * playya__ hopes that this is not an hardware error Sep 16 14:44:39 playya__: do you see it in u-boot? Sep 16 14:45:05 i installed xev to see the coordinates Sep 16 14:45:19 where can i see it in uboot Sep 16 14:47:19 playya: have you ever used u-boot? Sep 16 14:47:42 no not really Sep 16 14:47:57 I'm more affiliated to the higher level stuff Sep 16 14:48:19 playya: ok is the display ok outside X then? Sep 16 14:48:51 how can i test it? Sep 16 14:49:09 playya: kill X? Sep 16 14:50:59 is there a small program which outputs the events from /dev/input/* in a more readable format than hexdump? Sep 16 14:51:07 evtest? Sep 16 14:52:35 kill X Sep 16 14:52:37 run ts_calibrate Sep 16 14:52:40 then ts_test Sep 16 14:53:47 i just flashed the latest shr-image Sep 16 14:55:55 mickeyl, no pacakge provides ts_calibrate Sep 16 14:58:08 playya: libts-bin ? Sep 16 15:00:04 opkg cannot find this package in the shr feeds Sep 16 15:24:55 hmm Sep 16 15:33:50 hrm, what is the correct way to restart frameworkd? Sep 16 15:34:04 /etc/init.d/frameworkd leaves me unable to make calls :/ Sep 16 15:34:10 s/ /restart/ Sep 16 15:34:10 blindcoder meant: /etc/init.d/frameworkdrestartleaves me unable to make calls :/ Sep 16 15:44:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rba51dd14ae17 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Sep 16 15:44:05 freesmartphone.org: add gio-2.0, which is necessary for the async methods Sep 16 15:44:05 freesmartphone.org: still doesn't compile though due to Vala bugs ('result_length1' and friends not declared...) Sep 16 15:49:29 ptitjes: i wonder whether we need different fso-glib for client and server Sep 16 15:49:45 the client does not need to know about the 'async' qualifier Sep 16 15:49:54 in fact it hurts the client Sep 16 15:49:58 since it needs gio-2.0 then Sep 16 15:50:03 which it might not need Sep 16 15:51:06 that way we could also include the 'busname' thing in server-only interfaces Sep 16 15:51:28 a server can then chose to use the client interface or the server interface to implement a dbus interface Sep 16 15:51:45 depending on whether it needs async and busname or not Sep 16 15:53:16 so we either need vala-dbus-binding-tool to emit both versions Sep 16 15:53:19 or add a switch Sep 16 15:54:38 --enable client --enable-server Sep 16 15:54:41 e.g. Sep 16 15:56:33 we should also have two libraries then Sep 16 15:56:43 libfso-glib-client and libfso-glib-server Sep 16 16:12:21 github down? bitbake fails because of this... Sep 16 16:15:59 Heinervdm: btw, was the new eve built? Sep 16 16:16:07 Im eager to try it out Sep 16 16:16:15 khiraly1: i think so Sep 16 16:16:15 especially the user agent changing feature Sep 16 16:16:35 look which version is avaible Sep 16 16:16:46 the SVNREV is included in name Sep 16 16:17:33 sure the client needs the async qualifier Sep 16 16:17:37 hehh, I loose calls, because the ringing too low Sep 16 16:17:42 mickeyl: we do use it! Sep 16 16:17:54 mickeyl: on the client side Sep 16 16:18:35 mickeyl: would a server still be able to be the client to some other server then? sometimes a server might need client functions as well, to talk to other servers Sep 16 16:20:12 ptitjes: ooh wait, you mean you can call the dbus function as an async function then -- clientside? Sep 16 16:20:48 DocScrutinizer-8: sure, that should always be possible. Sep 16 16:21:54 mickeyl: that is what I'm doing in ophonekitd actually Sep 16 16:22:12 ptitjes: interesting. i didn't think of that scenario Sep 16 16:22:22 of course, that's important for nice client-side using dbus Sep 16 16:22:34 mickeyl: and that busname thingie should be a threadlocal, as I always said it Sep 16 16:23:14 mickeyl: and now that you have methodname.callback, you don't have any more reasons to split server and client :) Sep 16 16:23:52 hmm Sep 16 16:23:52 methodname.callback? Sep 16 16:23:56 how's that making up for the busname thingy? Sep 16 16:24:05 do you want to add methodname.busname? Sep 16 16:24:35 mickeyl: your two reasons of asking spliting server and client interfaces were accessing the callback, and get the busname Sep 16 16:24:50 mickeyl: you now have the callback Sep 16 16:25:27 mickeyl: my point is the busname should be accessed through a static function/method that queries a ThreadLocal object Sep 16 16:25:39 and this is what I always defended :) Sep 16 16:27:18 BillK: can you try this package? http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr/armv4t/midori_0.1.10-r2_armv4t.ipk my gtk config is broken. But delete your .config/midori first Sep 16 16:27:55 ptitjes: yeah, having such a function would remove the need for splitting Sep 16 16:28:47 mickeyl: and indeed it avoids passing all along the callchain a value that is invariant for one thread Sep 16 16:28:56 ptitjes: yep Sep 16 16:35:41 mickeyl: ping Sep 16 16:35:48 mickeyl: that's PushScenario which segfaults Sep 16 16:35:53 mickeyl: SetScenario seems to work Sep 16 16:36:00 backtrace? Sep 16 16:39:20 mickeyl: wait a moment, i'm too lazy to stand up and go for usb cable ATM ;D Sep 16 16:49:56 mickeyl: 0x4041dd18 in g_queue_push_head () Sep 16 16:49:57 from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 Sep 16 16:50:23 mickeyl: http://paste.debian.net/46704/ Sep 16 16:50:33 mickeyl: and loglevel = DEBUG changes nothing Sep 16 16:52:43 dos1: you know about "bt full", don't you? sometimes it gives more valuable info. Sep 16 16:53:26 PaulFertser: i know, but it just displayed more "No additional symbols" msgs and similar, nothing more valuable Sep 16 16:53:51 and i have fsodeviced-dbg installed, checking glib now Sep 16 16:54:14 yup, libglib-2.0-dbg is also installed Sep 16 16:59:08 JaMa: removing gtk-theme-neo gives a very strange gtk config, it should be gtk-e17lookalike.. Sep 16 17:01:02 dos1: thanks, i think i found it Sep 16 17:02:15 can you try the following patch: Sep 16 17:02:35 http://pastebin.ca/1568536 Sep 16 17:12:20 mickeyl: ping - today i have a log for "my phone stopped accepting phone calls" Sep 16 17:13:11 mrmoku: do you have any clue about this backtrace> Sep 16 17:13:12 ? Sep 16 17:13:23 s/mrmoku/mickeyl/ Sep 16 17:14:02 and mrmoku, could you look at upgrading libgee in unstable to 0.30? Sep 16 17:14:06 fsotimed needs it Sep 16 17:15:33 can you try the following patch: Sep 16 17:15:33 http://pastebin.ca/1568536 Sep 16 17:16:19 the log does not show an special error http://pastebin.ca/1568557 Sep 16 17:17:50 when trying to call my neo there is long nothing Sep 16 17:17:57 mickeyl: oh, i've got disconnect Sep 16 17:18:00 looking at it Sep 16 17:18:19 (without "düt") and after ages i get into my mailbox (as if there was a timeout on the providerside) Sep 16 17:20:48 bumbl: that's usual symptom of modem shutdown Sep 16 17:21:09 DocScrutinizer-8: nice - i seem to have that often nowadays Sep 16 17:21:12 what to do? Sep 16 17:22:22 dunno. Maybe check your battery voltage very closely. Clean bat contacts. Start mickeyterm and try to find out about stae of modem Sep 16 17:22:37 mrmoku: Sep 16 17:22:44 dos@sowa:~$ ssh shr@build.shr-project.org Sep 16 17:22:45 Enter passphrase for key '/home/dos/.ssh/id_rsa': Sep 16 17:22:47 PTY allocation request failed on channel 0 Sep 16 17:22:48 Ainulindale: ^^^^ Sep 16 17:23:14 that's after typing key Sep 16 17:23:32 hmmmm Sep 16 17:23:38 sshing to other hosts works Sep 16 17:24:05 forwarded to the sysadm Sep 16 17:24:08 bumbl: but first of all check if modem is enabled - in shr-settings--phone e.g. Sep 16 17:24:18 or via lsfsor Sep 16 17:24:42 DocScrutinizer-8: it was (as one could see from the log (frameworkd got registration messages if i read it correctly) Sep 16 17:26:35 freesmartphone.org: 03zimmermann 07framework * rc5ce1a2d7093 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_dates.py: Sep 16 17:26:35 freesmartphone.org: opimd: Dates: fix copy and paste error Sep 16 17:26:35 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak Sep 16 17:31:36 dos1: is latest supposed to work? Sep 16 17:31:46 Ainulindale: hmm? Sep 16 17:32:00 GSM is off by default here :-) Sep 16 17:32:54 and enabling it does nothing Sep 16 17:33:00 hmm Sep 16 17:33:03 here everything works Sep 16 17:33:05 Oh and ssh access should be fixed Sep 16 17:33:17 Ainulindale: check if you have libfsotransport0 installed Sep 16 17:33:27 Ainulindale: opkg sometimes removes it on upgrade mysteriously ;/ Sep 16 17:33:36 I just flashed Sep 16 17:33:39 0906 Sep 16 17:33:59 is it synced? Sep 16 17:34:05 for mrmoku it worked Sep 16 17:34:06 ;x Sep 16 17:34:09 Well yes it is :-) Sep 16 17:34:15 hmm Sep 16 17:36:17 for me, it worked too Sep 16 17:36:21 0906 Sep 16 17:36:57 dos1: rebooted, it's ok Sep 16 17:38:16 are the phone settings editable? Sep 16 17:38:25 (phoneutils) Sep 16 17:41:14 mickeyl: Sep 16 17:41:15 src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala:108.44-108.52: error: syntax error, expected ( or [ Sep 16 17:41:17 scenarios = new GLib.Queue scenarios; Sep 16 17:41:19 ^^^^^^^^^ Sep 16 17:41:20 Compilation failed: 1 error(s), 0 warning(s) Sep 16 17:41:22 Ainulindale: yup, from shr-settings Sep 16 17:41:28 dos1: Can't here Sep 16 17:41:38 Ainulindale: why not? Sep 16 17:41:43 Well Sep 16 17:41:47 I click on it Sep 16 17:41:50 I try to delete a char Sep 16 17:41:51 dos1: arr... new GLib.Queue(); Sep 16 17:41:52 It won't let me Sep 16 17:42:56 and now it does Sep 16 17:42:56 can't explain that Sep 16 17:43:06 clicked on area code Sep 16 17:43:06 can't delete Sep 16 17:43:14 Ainulindale: probably just focus issue Sep 16 17:43:18 well, we're using old elementary Sep 16 17:43:24 and illume Sep 16 17:43:28 dunno it it was already fixed Sep 16 17:43:48 Probably Sep 16 17:43:52 Managed to edit it in the end Sep 16 17:46:21 dos1: BS and DEL didsn't remove the "0" from my area code. When I clicked to countrycode field, the focus jumped and "0" vanished Sep 16 17:46:38 DocScrutinizer-8: not my issue :P Sep 16 17:46:53 DocScrutinizer-8: (illume/elementary... we really fscking need that EFL bump in unstable!) Sep 16 17:47:06 yup Sep 16 17:48:26 mrmoku: ping Sep 16 17:48:36 dos1: could you replace the string "your area code" with "your area/network code" please Sep 16 17:48:46 DocScrutinizer-8: ok Sep 16 17:50:42 vegyraupe, pong Sep 16 17:51:03 mrmoku: hi, I read something in passing about paroli yesterday, any changes that might be worth adding to the git ? Sep 16 17:51:38 vegyraupe, passing? Sep 16 17:51:41 mrmoku: don't sync unstable feed now Sep 16 17:51:51 mrmoku: "im vorbeilaufen" Sep 16 17:52:05 vegyraupe: sry can't even write propper german anymore Sep 16 17:52:09 vegyraupe, you mean adding paroli to our repo? Sep 16 17:52:24 s/repo/feed/ Sep 16 17:52:25 mrmoku meant: vegyraupe, you mean adding paroli to our feed? Sep 16 17:52:25 mrmoku: nto sure what it was that you did, JaMa was involved me thinks Sep 16 17:52:58 vegyraupe, nytowl is working to get paroli into shr... and JaMa did a patch too, yeah Sep 16 17:53:32 mrmoku: a patch we should apply ? (just trying to make things easier on all ends) Sep 16 17:53:44 Ainulindale, it wasn't working for me too on firstboot... even x did not start... reboot fixed all Sep 16 17:54:19 vegyraupe, no patch to bitbake recipe me thinks Sep 16 17:54:32 vegyraupe, you work on paroli? Sep 16 17:54:39 mrmoku: ah ok, just wanted to let you know we are still here :) Sep 16 17:54:48 mrmoku: and that any devs and criticism is welcome Sep 16 17:54:48 ok :) Sep 16 17:54:55 mrmoku: trying to find time whenever I can Sep 16 17:55:15 vegyraupe, ahh... remember now... different nicks ;) Sep 16 17:55:20 mrmoku: I am more the talker and mediator than coder right now Sep 16 17:55:23 mrmoku: ah sry Sep 16 17:55:24 yeah Sep 16 17:55:28 :) Sep 16 17:55:33 vegyraupe aka mirko-paroli Sep 16 17:55:34 :P Sep 16 17:56:09 I have to admit that I don't know in what state it is... nytowl did some work on getting it to build lately Sep 16 17:56:34 mrmoku: khiraly1 uses it as daily on shr, but from source, no clue about the package Sep 16 17:56:46 nice Sep 16 17:58:06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yboUUmKZlxM <= \o/ Sep 16 17:58:24 mickeyl: it works :) Sep 16 17:58:33 dos1: thanks for testing. Sep 16 17:58:55 Ainulindale, which one was you? ... the one on the right, correct? :P Sep 16 17:59:11 Were I to play as good as they do I'd be glad Sep 16 17:59:17 :) Sep 16 17:59:41 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r935c89fa7478 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: create scenario queue before using it Sep 16 18:00:24 Ainulindale, you should finally dump testing onto your gta01 ;) Sep 16 18:00:35 we're eager to announce something :) Sep 16 18:00:41 Yeah, I should, I'm currently fixing h:1 stuff though or checking what to fix :-) Sep 16 18:00:45 I'll try tonight Sep 16 18:00:50 ok Sep 16 18:01:14 mickeyl: thanks for fixing ;) Sep 16 18:01:32 mickeyl: could you also give me some hint about that libcanberra buffer issue? Sep 16 18:03:28 hi Ainulindale :) all well in Paris ? Sep 16 18:03:41 Fine yes :-) Sep 16 18:03:43 Still swamped though Sep 16 18:03:48 It's a curse Sep 16 18:04:27 Ainulindale: as long as you enjoy it :) Sep 16 18:04:39 Well yeah Sep 16 18:04:47 Right now I'm listening to that at work : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Btg7lFlig&feature=related Sep 16 18:04:57 (Quite enjoyable I have to say :-) ) Sep 16 18:05:00 dos1: sure, give me a minute Sep 16 18:06:41 dos1: http://pastebin.ca/1568642 Sep 16 18:06:48 yo stefan_schmidt Sep 16 18:06:55 mrmoku: syncing feed is safe again ;) Sep 16 18:07:28 hi mickeyl. Missed you in opie.de Sep 16 18:07:41 completly forgot that i didn't join that after the proxy outage Sep 16 18:07:42 mickeyl: Telekom b0rked my internet since yesterday evening Sep 16 18:07:49 stefan_schmidt: argh, suckers. how so? Sep 16 18:07:55 mickeyl: What time does your train arrive Sep 16 18:08:02 stefan_schmidt: 09:57 Sep 16 18:08:16 mickeyl: L2 link is fine, but no packet are going throug Sep 16 18:08:21 through Sep 16 18:08:34 mickeyl: ok, will be there as usual Sep 16 18:09:19 mickeyl: thanks, i'll test it :) Sep 16 18:10:23 * stefan_schmidt is off again. Sep 16 18:19:08 mrmoku: ping Sep 16 18:19:13 dos1, pong Sep 16 18:19:30 dos1, fast or in ten mins Sep 16 18:19:37 mrmoku: ~/dos/0001-libcanberra-increase-buffer-size-in-alsa-backend.patch on buildhost - can you commit? Sep 16 18:19:46 dos1, ok Sep 16 18:19:48 in 10 mins ;) Sep 16 18:23:01 mickeyl: ok, if scenarios will fully work now, and sound won't jump, then i'll only have to figure out why few shr-settings modules doesn't work with fsodeviced Sep 16 18:23:19 mickeyl: other things seems to work (but didn't test accelerometers yet) Sep 16 18:23:38 soudns good Sep 16 18:36:17 mickeyl: sound still jumps Sep 16 18:36:30 hmm Sep 16 18:36:33 now it doesn't Sep 16 18:36:55 dos1, applied and pushed Sep 16 18:36:57 64K should be enough Sep 16 18:37:00 try 128K Sep 16 18:37:16 oh, it jumps, but less often Sep 16 18:37:29 and it jumps when some activity is done (touching screen, unlocking desktop etc.) Sep 16 18:37:35 when i don't touch anything it plays ok Sep 16 18:37:41 mickeyl: ok Sep 16 18:39:00 if we can't get libcanberra to work well, i'll rip it out and implement that on my own as well *sigh* Sep 16 18:39:28 mickeyl: compiling with 128 Sep 16 18:51:22 is Arne Anka an IRC citizen? i might be interested in doing some remote debugging.. Sep 16 18:57:03 mrmoku, it seems to work better when using DEPENDS_gst-plugin-mms Sep 16 18:57:56 mickeyl: with 128 it's very rare. but still sometimes happens - it wasn't happening with odeviced Sep 16 19:01:34 dos1: I'll have a look after my vacation. if it's just sometimes, we can bear with it for now Sep 16 19:02:09 yup, it isn't as annoying as with 16K, i can live with that ;) Sep 16 19:02:24 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4f5fe6c8985f 10/fsogsmd/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: play with coroutines Sep 16 19:02:40 mrmoku: so one more patch Sep 16 19:03:28 * mrmoku knows why he does not put his Signed-off-by under dos' patches ;) Sep 16 19:04:17 mrmoku: do you know what the signoff means? Sep 16 19:04:22 :D Sep 16 19:04:30 mrmoku: it's in ~/dos now ;) Sep 16 19:04:55 Weiss, well, I understand it as 'I confirm this thing is as I think it should be' Sep 16 19:06:07 mrmoku: google "Developer's Certificate of Origin" Sep 16 19:06:38 Weiss, ouch :) Sep 16 19:07:26 i.e. (at least for the Linux kernel), it means something completely different to what you think. i guess with any other project it's whatever that project decides, however Sep 16 19:09:58 Weiss, thanks for enlightening me :) Sep 16 19:10:03 i think signed-off is the author. acked is that the patch works and that it is useful, right? Sep 16 19:11:13 Signed-off-by means basically "I have the right to pass this patch on". Acked-by is "looks OK to me", Tested-by is "I tested this and it works" Sep 16 19:11:37 but at the end of the day they're just words in a commit message, and mean whatever your project decides they mean Sep 16 19:14:13 so Signed-off-by gets added by "gatekeepers" as well (e.g. if you email a patch to the OM-Kernel list and, say, PaulFertser applies it, his signoff should get added) Sep 16 19:34:27 mickeyl: [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.PowerStatus from :1.110 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply Sep 16 19:34:30 ('charging',) Sep 16 19:35:02 mickeyl: with fsodeviced, when connected on cable it returns "ac", and on disconnecting it returns "charging" and immediately after that "discharching" Sep 16 19:35:04 is it normal? Sep 16 19:40:34 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rf2b048919874 10/src/ (4 files): regenerate Sep 16 19:45:31 mickeyl: another segfault Sep 16 19:47:16 mickeyl: http://pastebin.ca/1568775 Sep 16 19:47:26 mickeyl: when trying to mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Orientation org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.GetOrientation Sep 16 19:48:25 mickeyl: do i need to add some config to use accelerometers by fsodeviced? Sep 16 19:48:30 i have blank sections ATM Sep 16 19:49:14 mickeyl: oh, ok, never mind Sep 16 19:49:21 i just saw in sources ;) Sep 16 19:52:32 mickeyl: ok, GetOrientation also works now Sep 16 19:52:51 mickeyl: but it segfaults is Accelerometer resource wasn't requested Sep 16 19:54:21 that's error handling just like from my code :DDD Sep 16 19:56:46 mickeyl: for some reason when using fsodeviced, sound scenario isn't switched back to stereoout on call release Sep 16 19:57:29 ** (process:5344): CRITICAL **: file plugin.c: line 1146: uncaught error: Could not find scenario gsmspeakerout Sep 16 19:59:10 mickeyl: ok, fsodeviced seems to be usable, only that issue is left for me Sep 16 19:59:22 mickeyl: and some SHR software has to be prepared to changes in interface Sep 16 19:59:47 but mickeyl, you did great work, thanks for it :) Sep 16 20:00:08 Hello everybody Sep 16 20:00:57 can anyone please tell me where to get the sources for two packages (python-audio and python-[py]alsaaudio) you used for building shr? thanks in advance :) Sep 16 20:02:25 or at least a guess where to search? Sep 16 20:02:48 hasn't anyone modified the eightball application to run with newer kernels? Sep 16 20:03:47 vanInwagen: cgit.openembedded.org Sep 16 20:03:51 vanInwagen: shr/import branch Sep 16 20:04:37 oh thanks, dos1! Sep 16 20:04:40 :D Sep 16 20:04:45 mickeyl: i workarounded it by shell script running after call release calling SetScenario('stereoout') Sep 16 20:04:48 i think i have to patch something Sep 16 20:05:00 mickeyl: as i already had script for rotating ring tones after every phone call ;D Sep 16 20:05:02 if i am able to do so Sep 16 20:05:55 mickeyl: really great work, it's fast as hell now :) Sep 16 20:06:24 dos1: means exactly what? Sep 16 20:06:45 PaulFertser: hmm? Sep 16 20:07:03 hi Sep 16 20:07:06 dos1: how fast is it now? Sep 16 20:07:30 PaulFertser: ringtone starts playing immediately when call window arrives Sep 16 20:07:41 PaulFertser: the same with switching scenario Sep 16 20:07:49 it's optimized really great :) Sep 16 20:08:05 dos1: hm, everybody's is concerned with call acceptance speed. Sep 16 20:08:18 dos1: do you confirm it's now on par with dumb cell phones, no more annoyances? Sep 16 20:08:30 PaulFertser: starting/stoping ringtone and switching scenario = speed of call acceptance Sep 16 20:08:42 ;) Sep 16 20:08:49 PaulFertser: checking once again, just to confirm ;) Sep 16 20:08:58 dos1: i know, just wanted to have a really unambigious answer. Sep 16 20:10:23 PaulFertser: something like 2 seconds from clicking to having everything established Sep 16 20:10:47 dos1: hm, you said the same about the previous system, didn't you? Sep 16 20:11:12 PaulFertser: call acceptance? no Sep 16 20:11:28 PaulFertser: previously it was something like 5-8 seconds Sep 16 20:11:50 PaulFertser: now i'm talking about time from clicking "Answer" Sep 16 20:12:15 PaulFertser: probably you're referring to what i said about resume from suspend time Sep 16 20:12:34 which is 2-3 seconds for me to being able to press "Answer" Sep 16 20:15:21 switching to FR Sep 16 20:31:08 Im still struggling to get python-elementary working on my desktop :( Sep 16 20:31:43 mickeyl, some short questions about fsogsmd Sep 16 20:32:33 1. why do use a switch instead of a HashMap Sep 16 20:32:40 how to install ffmpeg on SHR Sep 16 20:34:31 Has anybody got python-elementary working on ubuntu? Sep 16 20:34:35 and why load all modules? if we have a qualcomm_msm modem in the config we could load a libqualcomm_msm.so which has a Modem class and registers the type on module_init method Sep 16 20:34:51 the you can look it up by Type.from_name() Sep 16 20:35:06 Type.from_name("Modem"); Sep 16 20:35:23 ajvogel: tried the packages from enligtment reop? Sep 16 20:36:03 Heinervdm: Yes, I added the repos to sources.list and installed from there Sep 16 20:36:26 ajvogel, tried the repo from http://packages.enlightenment.org/ubuntu/ ? Sep 16 20:36:39 it should be in extra Sep 16 20:36:55 sorry. to slow Sep 16 20:37:44 playya: trying to add a window I get: [elm_win.c:323] elm_win_add() elementary: ERROR. Cannot create window. Sep 16 20:38:06 PaulFertser: what would you think about te same toggles for WiFi, Bluetooth and USB(not use about USB though), as for GPS? Sep 16 20:38:11 I also get the same error when I try and run the test application Sep 16 20:38:17 PaulFertser: in shr-settings Sep 16 20:38:18 sorry. i prefer libeflvala *hides* Sep 16 20:38:42 PaulFertser: i mean that auto/manual -> on/off Sep 16 20:38:50 ajvogel: just tried and it's segfaulting too Sep 16 20:39:01 dos1|neo: no idea tbh, i'm yet to try to use them. Sep 16 20:39:40 Heinervdm: Yes, same here. Maybe I should just give up and use gtk instead Sep 16 20:39:49 PaulFertser: actual (bad) approach isn't working at all with fsodeviced now ;D Sep 16 20:39:54 dos1|neo: i think i'd prefer shr settings to modify resource policy and that is disable/auto/enabled, 3 different points. Sep 16 20:40:04 ajvogel: develope your app on the freerunner Sep 16 20:40:21 PaulFertser: yut, that's what i already did for GPS Sep 16 20:40:24 dos1|neo: and to have a way to make that persistent. Sep 16 20:40:38 PaulFertser: so i'll do that also for wifi and bt Sep 16 20:40:54 PaulFertser: for that ask mickeyl, not me ;) Sep 16 20:41:06 dos1|neo: i know Sep 16 20:42:05 mickeyl: giving fsodeviced a try in real life since now :) Sep 16 20:42:08 Heinervdm: Thats an option, but my usb connection is not that reliable. So I was hoping to work on the desktop Sep 16 20:43:37 ajvogel: design's for elementary arn't that hard Sep 16 20:45:41 Heinervdm: Yeah, its just an annoyance that I cant work on desktop :( Sep 16 20:48:01 dos1|neo: (same as for...) I suggested that quite some time ago Sep 16 20:50:03 DocScrutinizer-8: hehe, sorry then, i was to lazy to do that earlier ;) Sep 16 20:50:47 dos1|neo: no reason for sorrow, was just an affirmative statement Sep 16 20:50:47 ok, going to take a shower now Sep 16 20:51:46 dos1|neo: in short: +1 Sep 16 20:55:15 dos1|neo: you might have a look at lsfsor, and maybe include a simplified info like highlighting "on" (when resource is allocated) or "off" (if not) Sep 16 20:57:01 dos1|neo: can you evaluate the possibility of adding Blueman to the feeds? Its dependencies are specified here: http://blueman-project.org/downloads.html Sep 16 20:59:30 PaulFertser: o/ :-) Sep 16 21:01:54 PaulFertser: i tried to build blueman, but that's not that easy Sep 16 21:05:07 playya: fsogsmd -- switch where? Sep 16 21:05:54 fsogsmd/src/plugins/gsm_device/plugin.vala Sep 16 21:05:54 PaulFertser: while configuring blueman i'm getting this error: shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/include/python2.6/pyport.h:685:2: error: #error "LONG_BIT definition appears wrong for platform (bad gcc/glibc config?)." Sep 16 21:06:02 in the contructor Sep 16 21:06:43 Heinervdm: are you building blueman for amd64 with OE? Sep 16 21:07:07 PaulFertser: i'm building for gta02 on amd64 Sep 16 21:07:31 Heinervdm: looks like the build is using some amd64 headers by mistake. Sep 16 21:07:56 playya: hmm, no special reason. usually i only use hash tables to improve speed (i.e. in code that's often executed) or if there's more than 10 options or so Sep 16 21:08:02 we can change that Sep 16 21:08:06 PaulFertser: http://shr.pastebin.com/m626ff2d9 line 896 Sep 16 21:08:11 anywasy, bedtime now, need to get up early tomorrow Sep 16 21:08:29 good night mickey|zzZZzz Sep 16 21:09:00 * dos1|neo is back Sep 16 21:09:12 PaulFertser: then this is an error of bitbake, but there is no difference between the pyport.h in x86-64 and armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi Sep 16 21:09:14 mickey|zzZZzz: ;/ i wanted to ask something Sep 16 21:09:47 Heinervdm: it finds and uses native python : /home/thomas/SHR/SHR/shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/python Sep 16 21:09:52 Heinervdm: line 882 Sep 16 21:10:01 dos1|neo, too late Sep 16 21:10:08 Heinervdm: and then supplies wrong path to try to build python extension obviously Sep 16 21:10:13 what do you want to ask? maybe i can help you Sep 16 21:10:53 Heinervdm: but i'd imagine it's a problem with configure.ac rather than with bitbake since with other proper project python extenstions can be built correctly. Sep 16 21:11:50 playya: how he wants to resolve issue with starting fsodeviced on boot, as we obviously want to have idle notifier working since beginning, but now fsodeviced is only started by dbus activation Sep 16 21:11:53 PaulFertser: i think it's normal that it's using the x86-64 binary, because my cpu can't run a armv4 binary Sep 16 21:12:11 s/cpu/kernel/ Sep 16 21:12:13 Heinervdm meant: PaulFertser: i think it's normal that it's using the x86-64 binary, because my kernel can't run a armv4 binary Sep 16 21:12:25 Heinervdm: no, it's not. It checks buildability of python extension for the target platform. Sep 16 21:13:07 PaulFertser: you have an idea which env variable i have to change? Sep 16 21:13:25 Heinervdm: no :) Sep 16 21:14:38 ok. I can't help you dos1|neo :/ Sep 16 21:15:48 dos1|neo: why would we want idlenotifier from beginning of boot? Sep 16 21:16:10 PaulFertser: i tried to remove that check from configure, but i don't really find that check Sep 16 21:17:49 Heinervdm: can't be that hard to find it Sep 16 21:19:11 DocScrutinizer-8: well, not beginning. just on boot ;) Sep 16 21:19:17 dos1|neo: I admit we would like to enable GSM from very beginning, so it can ramp up in parallel Sep 16 21:19:53 DocScrutinizer-8: : now it isn't starting at all, until user does something odeviced related, so dbus starts it Sep 16 21:20:05 dos1|neo: suspending before boot finished, or even before GSM registered seems wrong to me Sep 16 21:20:36 dos1|neo: ooh, that's obviously wrong as well? Sep 16 21:20:50 s/?/!/ Sep 16 21:20:51 DocScrutinizer-8 meant: dos1|neo: ooh, that's obviously wrong as well! Sep 16 21:21:01 DocScrutinizer-8: yup, that's why i'm mentioning it ;) Sep 16 21:22:38 DocScrutinizer-8: with fsousaged/fsodeviced/fsogsmd group getting gsm to work earlier shouldn't be hard ;) Sep 16 21:23:51 now ogsmd startup is blocked by oeventsd, opreferencesd, opimd (those are the most heavy) and other subsystems as well (odeviced too ATM) Sep 16 21:24:25 as frameworkd doesn't start subsystems in parallel Sep 16 21:25:23 hmmm Sep 16 21:25:32 maybe it's placebo Sep 16 21:25:48 but when using fsodeviced everything seems to be faster Sep 16 21:25:56 ui resposibility etc. Sep 16 21:26:22 mickey|zzZZzz: could ogsmd learn to crank up moden, and just postpone connect to dbus and frameworkd? Sep 16 21:26:32 strange :x Sep 16 21:26:58 DocScrutinizer-8: hmm? i can't understand that idea Sep 16 21:27:48 DocScrutinizer-8: turning modem on before dbus and everything connected -> possible missed phone calls Sep 16 21:28:17 dos1|neo: initializing modem is rather autonomous task. Doesn't need the whole framework. Basicaly it could be done by "cat foo >ttySAC0" Sep 16 21:28:45 and changing dramatically ogsmd infrastructure doesn't make sense, as fsogsmd is coming ;) Sep 16 21:28:57 dos1|neo: not really (miss phonecalls) as we need to register etc anyway Sep 16 21:29:26 DocScrutinizer-8: but then what is the gain? Sep 16 21:29:28 dos1|neo: s/ogsmd/*ogsmd/ Sep 16 21:30:10 DocScrutinizer-8: fsogsmd will be able to do stuff before other subsystems has been loaded Sep 16 21:30:21 as fsousaged is able to do now Sep 16 21:30:22 dos1|neo: (gain) no need to wait for frameworkd to come up, and still don't lose sync of modem state Sep 16 21:30:52 DocScrutinizer-8: hmm? you'll still have to wait for register Sep 16 21:31:48 dos1|neo: scanning networks is a long time, before register can happen Sep 16 21:33:15 DocScrutinizer-8: well, you'll have to do lot of stuff to do that. not always you want to turn gsm on automatically Sep 16 21:33:38 so without client requesting gsm it shouldn't be started at all IMHO Sep 16 21:34:02 we can turn down if we don't want it. scanning doesn't include any TX activity afaik Sep 16 21:35:15 i think using fsogsmd (as it's separate daemon, in contrast to frameworkd) will bring everything we need in that topic Sep 16 21:35:45 yes, that's how I got your prev msg Sep 16 21:36:17 ok Sep 16 21:36:34 so implementing wifi and bt sliders now :) Sep 16 21:36:52 cool :-) Sep 16 21:38:25 as my part of regular 'tasks to do before going to sleep' ;D Sep 16 21:38:26 and maybe convince mokonnect to follow decent resource allocation scheme, instead of unconditionally forcing on and forget e.g. wifi :-S Sep 16 21:39:15 DocScrutinizer-8: what do you propose for mokonnect? it's not daemon, only gui Sep 16 21:39:26 SetResourcePolicy? Sep 16 21:39:56 that's exactly the problem I guess Sep 16 21:40:50 well, need to run Sep 16 21:40:51 bbl Sep 16 21:41:20 mickey|zzZZzz: fsodeviced doesn't provide UsbHost functionality? Sep 16 21:41:28 is there a way to get maxima working on shr? that would be really cool Sep 16 21:41:31 mickey|zzZZzz: i can't find it ;x Sep 16 21:42:32 klinuxer: what's maxima Sep 16 21:42:38 argh Sep 16 21:43:28 math gui Sep 16 21:43:32 and engine Sep 16 21:43:40 Heinervdm, a program written in lisp (it's legendary :D) to calculate Sep 16 21:43:50 klinuxer: url? Sep 16 21:43:52 in a really advanced way Sep 16 21:44:16 but if it's wriiten in lisp it would be complicated Sep 16 21:44:39 http://maxima.sourceforge.net/ Sep 16 21:45:42 yeah, i tried to compile sbcl and clisp already, didn't get it .. but maybe it's because i'm totally unexperienced in that Sep 16 21:50:14 Heinervdm, for gcl there is a arm deb package, can that be used on om? Sep 16 21:51:01 klinuxer: the depencies won't fit, but if you lucky it can run :) Sep 16 21:51:19 Heinervdm, i'll try :) Sep 16 21:56:17 Heinervdm, can i use the unconverted raw .deb package with opkg? Sep 16 21:56:44 klinuxer: you can try, but that will probably fail Sep 16 21:56:52 because of wrong depencies Sep 16 21:57:43 hm, don't know, but should an compiler have any dependencies? Sep 16 21:58:38 you can write a compiler even in python ;) Sep 16 21:58:40 ok, it had :D tcl, tk, xlibs, gcc-3.2 Sep 16 22:00:19 ok, but that all can be installed Sep 16 22:00:57 except for xlibs, which wasn't in `opkg list` Sep 16 22:02:24 ajvogel: i just did: apt-get -b source for python-elementary and all it's depencies and installed these packages, and now it's working Sep 16 22:12:26 ah, and the missing dependency for ebrainy Sep 16 22:12:44 python-misc contains the module decimal Sep 16 22:34:27 erm, where is gcc on shr after installing the package gcc? Sep 16 22:37:13 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * ra1337fd3d4a0 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_bt.py: [bluetooth] use ousaged interface (not finished yet!] Sep 16 22:37:31 klinuxer: arm-gnueabi-TAB-TAB Sep 16 22:37:55 going to sleep Sep 16 22:37:55 good night! Sep 16 23:00:08 is there anythink like BUILD_DEPENDS in bitbake? Sep 17 00:33:03 Heinervdm: saw your link - was it a patch, something simple in config? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 17 02:59:57 2009