**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 07 14:49:23 2009 Oct 07 14:49:25 maybe an include is missing Oct 07 14:52:32 Gnutoo: do you have that branch upgraded? Oct 07 14:52:35 in sense Oct 07 14:52:37 git pull? Oct 07 14:52:43 yes I just pulled Oct 07 14:52:51 just means today Oct 07 14:53:45 I'm at commit 0bbdab0f7500f21871ce170000fa7ad4acd69840 Oct 07 14:58:13 btw I don't find task-shr-minimal-x in tasks Oct 07 14:59:17 ah ok found it Oct 07 14:59:29 packages += Oct 07 15:02:12 mmm Oct 07 15:02:18 shr-om-gta02.conf contains it Oct 07 15:06:25 dos1 should be solved now thanks Oct 07 15:24:50 NOTE: package xserver-kdrive-1.4.0.90: completed Oct 07 15:24:54 sigh... Oct 07 15:25:11 (was the do_unpack) Oct 07 15:34:02 hello. Oct 07 15:34:18 mrmoku: I found out what went wrong with index utf8 Oct 07 15:34:18 :) Oct 07 15:34:33 will fix it as soon as I get home. Oct 07 15:34:55 tasn2: yup, I know what is wrong too... though don't know how to do it in a sane way Oct 07 15:35:00 dos1: gimme (fixed) opimd :) Oct 07 15:35:08 mrmoku: what do you think is wrong? Oct 07 15:35:39 using toupper and a char for current_index? Oct 07 15:35:50 no Oct 07 15:35:53 using a char Oct 07 15:36:06 and not a unicode char Oct 07 15:36:22 (utf8 string actually as the index accepts strings) Oct 07 15:36:48 and one thing we might want to have is index with more than one char Oct 07 15:36:53 yes Oct 07 15:37:01 well you did it quick and good atm Oct 07 15:37:03 like Aa if there is a lot of entries Oct 07 15:37:08 we need to consider improving that Oct 07 15:37:15 a bit. Oct 07 15:37:59 which will add support for more than a letter index Oct 07 15:38:08 (we just need to change the logic. Oct 07 15:38:10 ) Oct 07 15:38:14 nothing too fancyt Oct 07 15:38:31 btw, mrmoku, please reissue the indent command on glib Oct 07 15:38:34 with cli0 Oct 07 15:38:37 not 8 Oct 07 15:38:38 :) Oct 07 15:38:40 already did :P Oct 07 15:38:57 cool :) Oct 07 15:39:03 anyhow, at the top of my todo atm: Oct 07 15:39:12 dropping async crap Oct 07 15:39:29 and adding folders back to messages Oct 07 15:39:37 btw, does contact modfication work? Oct 07 15:39:41 tasn2: hmm Oct 07 15:39:53 tasn2: you can check if folders work at all in opimd Oct 07 15:39:55 no hmm Oct 07 15:39:58 ginne Oct 07 15:40:00 gimme Oct 07 15:40:02 as there is some interface for folders Oct 07 15:40:03 dos1: no Oct 07 15:40:11 I'm talking about sent vs recieved atm Oct 07 15:40:16 but i didn't test it at all Oct 07 15:40:24 tasn2: i know, but still :P Oct 07 15:41:08 tasn2: working on that (contact modification) Oct 07 15:41:51 mrmoku: we also need to split messages to Oct 07 15:41:54 sent, incoming Oct 07 15:42:01 and outgoing Oct 07 15:42:08 (i.e not sent yet) Oct 07 15:42:52 dos1: I'm not listening until you fix opimd or at least until we'll use your wicked UI sketcehs :) Oct 07 15:42:59 hes Oct 07 15:44:04 but anyhow Oct 07 15:44:10 mrmoku: tell me when you are done :) Oct 07 15:44:17 I'll fix index Oct 07 15:44:33 and hosefully contact notification about failed sent message Oct 07 15:44:39 failed outgoing call Oct 07 15:44:42 etc etc Oct 07 15:45:07 mrmoku: it's just if error != NULL in the callback, right? Oct 07 15:45:19 no Oct 07 15:45:38 then? Oct 07 15:45:52 tasn2: you're talking about failed sent message? Oct 07 15:45:57 yes Oct 07 15:46:06 you have to request notification from frameworkd Oct 07 15:46:15 and will get a signal then Oct 07 15:46:21 really? Oct 07 15:46:30 so what is the callback for? Oct 07 15:46:49 if requesting the send of the message worked Oct 07 15:46:56 which does not mean it already is sent Oct 07 15:46:59 mrmoku: :| Oct 07 15:47:24 is there a decent iface you can give me in order to get what I asked? :) Oct 07 15:47:54 mrmoku: btw, you started using my gvalue functions, right? Oct 07 15:48:08 no, because they are static :P Oct 07 15:48:13 (we had that yesterday) Oct 07 15:48:18 I c&p'ed them Oct 07 15:48:19 copy paste... Oct 07 15:48:21 yeah Oct 07 15:48:24 good enough Oct 07 15:49:05 btw, please, also consider putting your contact modification functions in phonegui-utility, I don't want the backend to talk to opimd at all Oct 07 15:49:51 in the future (near future) I want to load a libphonegui-utility-fso Oct 07 15:50:01 that will include all of those Oct 07 15:50:11 tasn2: + g_hash_table_insert(options, "status-report-request", TRUE); Oct 07 15:50:13 so phonegui will also be framework agnsotic Oct 07 15:50:19 when sending Oct 07 15:50:28 mrmoku: no, wait. Oct 07 15:50:46 that's a confirmation from network Oct 07 15:50:54 or is it? Oct 07 15:51:07 well... the only thing we're interested in is if the message actually got sent, no? Oct 07 15:51:15 yes, but I mean Oct 07 15:51:22 this is NOT a reciept, right? Oct 07 15:51:38 ? Oct 07 15:51:44 i.e this does not cost money Oct 07 15:51:45 right? Oct 07 15:51:57 cya later Oct 07 16:15:02 rtp: looks like it's a workaround for plat-s3c24xx/irq.c doing set_irq_handler(irqno, handle_edge_irq); Oct 07 16:15:24 rtp: for all EINTs >= 4 Oct 07 16:15:26 larsc: ^^^ Oct 07 16:38:34 yep. as i said. or tried to say Oct 07 17:03:24 DocScrutinizer: hey... small question :) Oct 07 17:03:48 DocScrutinizer: requesting a message receipt from the provider... does that cost? Oct 07 17:06:35 awww. connman is a fso depency Oct 07 17:08:54 yup Oct 07 17:32:36 Hello all, added the mrmoku feed yesterday and did an upgrade, hoping to get long sms's enabled. I think the upgrade ate my cat ;-) Oct 07 17:33:28 Arigead: hmm... strange. it was designed to eat children... and not cats ;) Oct 07 17:37:42 mrmoku: I didn't think it'd been designed at all but now I know ;-) I suppose I should reflash again with unstable. I should really have just opkg installed the packages I wanted opkg upgrade is always asking for trouble if you ask me ;-) Oct 07 17:38:12 Arigead: what symptoms do you have? Oct 07 17:40:40 shr-messages won't start simply segmentation fault. I've shr-launcher installed as well and that won't start but that's down to the enlightenment library names I think. Not too worried about that one. Oct 07 17:41:32 hmm... looks like we need to rebuild some stuff Oct 07 17:41:54 did you change /etc/frameworkd-phonegui.conf? Oct 07 17:43:11 mrmoku: I had changed it to efl2 and now you mention it it's reverted to efl in the upgrade Oct 07 17:43:47 Arigead: old efl will just segfault as long as SIM is not ready yet... did it register to the network? Oct 07 17:44:11 mrmoku: Registered all day ;-) Oct 07 17:44:46 Arigead: like in... took the whole day to register? or like in it was registered the whole day long? :P Oct 07 17:45:14 mrmoku: Sorry been registered all day with full coverage. Oct 07 17:45:20 ok :) Oct 07 17:45:32 at least ophonekitd works then :) Oct 07 17:45:58 mrmoku: Little comfort to my cat ;-) Oct 07 17:46:43 Arigead: sure... your cat would prefer it would not register and thus you having time to take care of her :) Oct 07 17:47:03 mrmoku: i'll try an install of the core sort of stuff for efl2 and change to that to see if that's a goer Oct 07 17:50:43 mrmoku: Everything up to date but efl2 does work ;-) I'll try send myself a long sms message and see what that does Oct 07 17:51:00 good thing Oct 07 18:03:31 mrmoku: I'm abroad as in roaming so that might be the problem but I don't seem to be getting anything when I send myself an SMS. Usually Notifier works if nothing else does. I tailed /var/log/frameworkd.log but nothing showing up there either. Think it'll be a reflash Oct 07 18:04:26 mrmoku: thinking about it roaming should have no effect as I've sent myself SMS's from another account while the Om has been roaming before Oct 07 18:07:11 Arigead: I'm not sure what is needed to get incoming SMS notification for efl2 Oct 07 18:07:15 might just not work yet Oct 07 18:07:20 dos1: ping ^^^ Oct 07 18:08:36 hello :) Oct 07 18:09:02 mrmoku: Usually the notifier works and pops up notification of sms's even if app like launcher can't seem to see them. Oct 07 18:09:15 * JaMa needs to build new updates, but vala and vala-native fails to find valac :/ any idea? Oct 07 18:09:27 http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/opimd/oeventsd/ Oct 07 18:09:36 mrmoku, Arigead: ^^^ Oct 07 18:11:23 same problem as here http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2009-October/000824.html Oct 07 18:12:02 HI Oct 07 18:16:20 !log Oct 07 18:17:00 dos1: so fso_triggers.py should at least log "Receive IncomingMessage on index" to /var/log/frameworkd.log when the sim gets a message. Oct 07 18:17:20 sim = gsm Oct 07 18:17:47 "on path" IIRC, not "on index" Oct 07 18:18:49 dos1: I'm getting nothing in log at all so I must really have messed up the system :( Oct 07 18:20:49 mrmoku: Aber bitte mit Sane? :-) Oct 07 18:21:36 Probably the worst Udo-Jürgens-Pun Oct 07 18:27:30 Schorhr: ouch :) Oct 07 18:27:58 Schorhr: do you still have your oooold testing installed? Oct 07 18:29:08 hoversels are broken, is this a known bug? Oct 07 18:30:57 Slyon: work fine for me Oct 07 18:31:08 mrmoku: Yes I do, but willing to get rid of it :-) Oct 07 18:32:55 mrmoku: hmm strange, just did an upgrade to you test feed and now the hoversels have a different style and dont react on selecting an item, maybe i have to restart x? Oct 07 18:33:31 Slyon: try Oct 07 18:36:49 mrmoku: doesn't work.. can it be because i'm using the niebiee theme? Oct 07 18:37:15 dos1: is niebiee broken regarding hoversels? Oct 07 18:37:38 mrmoku: hoversels are broken Oct 07 18:37:44 mrmoku: i don't think it's matter of theme Oct 07 18:37:50 dos1: fix it :P Oct 07 18:37:51 dos1: why do they work for me? Oct 07 18:37:59 dunno ;x Oct 07 18:38:04 mrmoku: What version would be neccesary/recomended? Or not ready yet? Oct 07 18:38:26 Schorhr: the new (not ready) unstable Oct 07 18:38:31 almost ready though Oct 07 18:38:50 Great :-) Thanks Oct 07 18:39:19 Is it to early to state that my printer arrived? :D Oct 07 18:50:04 Schorhr: we have cups... if that is what you need ;) Oct 07 18:51:43 I think the problem will be the USB-Paralell adapter :-) Oct 07 18:51:58 *Parallel Oct 07 18:55:23 mrmoku: touchscreen doesn't rotate, could this be related to xorg? if i do xrandr -o 3 the screen changes to landscape mode but touches behave like it would be in portrait mode Oct 07 18:55:45 Slyon: yup, that is indeed a know problem :( Oct 07 18:56:01 okay Oct 07 18:59:49 hi I bet shr is not compiled with the lastest debug features of bitbake.conf Oct 07 19:00:19 (the good -g -gddb3 or 2 flags) Oct 07 19:00:26 if I remember well the level Oct 07 19:04:34 when will shr be merged with oe\? Oct 07 19:04:43 s/\\// Oct 07 19:07:13 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r4c5bff13d058 10/src/view/contact-show-view.c: contacts: implement adding fields Oct 07 19:07:14 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r165aaf694650 10/src/view/contact-list-common.c: contacts: re-fix list if name or number is not defined (after mismerge) Oct 07 19:07:15 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * rfa84604d5568 10/src/view/ (contact-show-view.c views.h.in): contact: add defines for undefined Name / Phone Oct 07 19:07:16 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r6e02477b1c37 10/src/view/ (contact-list-common.h contact-list-view.c): contacts: fix deleting from the list Oct 07 19:07:18 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * ref17f56c67b8 10/src/view/contact-show-view.c: contacts: fix saving Oct 07 19:07:24 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r17b09c4be536 10/src/view/contact-show-view.c: contacts: edit fields by selecting them in the list Oct 07 19:07:26 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r97128990d97e 10/src/view/contact-show-view.c: contacts: fix adding new contacts Oct 07 19:07:29 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * raf6878c72c47 10/src/view/contact-list-view.c: contacts: edit a contact by selecting it in the list Oct 07 19:07:32 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r9ff7d9006393 10/src/view/contact-list-view.c: contacts: remove obsolete code Oct 07 19:07:33 Gnutoo: oooohhh debugging is fixed in org.oe.dev? Oct 07 19:07:46 I think so Oct 07 19:07:59 there was a commit modifying bitbake.conf Oct 07 19:08:13 anyway I can't live without debugging Oct 07 19:08:17 good thing... as right now debugging is quite frustrating Oct 07 19:08:37 so I changed to -ggdb3 if it was not put there Oct 07 19:08:51 one I even removed stripping Oct 07 19:09:04 because ld.so segfaulted Oct 07 19:09:37 dos1: what is the rule to know if a field is a phone number? Oct 07 19:10:28 ^.*[pP]hone$ Oct 07 19:10:30 ;D Oct 07 19:10:32 dos1: and how does one get the 'hidden' fields with _ Oct 07 19:10:44 why for do you need _ fields? Oct 07 19:10:55 to show where a contact comes from ? Oct 07 19:11:11 probably that info is not even possible :( Oct 07 19:12:51 it's not stored in _ fields :P Oct 07 19:13:02 look for GetUsedBackends method Oct 07 19:13:07 if it's not there, i'll add it :P Oct 07 19:13:22 hmm... ok. let's keep that for later :P Oct 07 19:26:56 mrmoku: when do we want to sync? Oct 07 19:27:19 hmm... rebuild a new image and sync? Oct 07 19:27:46 mrmoku: i rebuilt yesterday Oct 07 19:28:00 dos1: did you try it? :P Oct 07 19:28:06 mrmoku: no :P Oct 07 19:28:16 did anybody try it? Oct 07 19:28:18 but i want feed synced, not image :P Oct 07 19:28:24 and i tried feed Oct 07 19:28:37 and only hoversels don't work Oct 07 19:28:45 probably that's just niebiee needs updating Oct 07 19:28:50 sync it then Oct 07 19:29:25 * playya_ is a brave man and sets connman to AUTOREV Oct 07 19:29:42 mrmoku: ok. on your responsibility ;> Oct 07 19:29:54 nah Oct 07 19:30:15 ;] Oct 07 19:30:19 * mrmoku thinnks playya_ is a _very_ brave man ;) Oct 07 19:30:23 someone should also test image Oct 07 19:30:38 marcel released 0.4.3 3 days ago Oct 07 19:32:18 connman always tries to rebuild itself and has an errornous link command -> bitbake bails out Oct 07 19:33:51 mrmoku: no, i'm not syncing Oct 07 19:33:58 hoversels doesn't work here also with default theme Oct 07 19:34:35 hmm... strange Oct 07 19:34:47 did you really test it? :P Oct 07 19:34:50 hoversels are the popup menus we have on some buttons, right? Oct 07 19:35:21 yup, like in profile selector Oct 07 19:35:27 just check if you can switch profile Oct 07 19:35:27 works for me Oct 07 19:35:40 ahh... Oct 07 19:35:55 the hoversel pops up, I can click on it but the profile then does not change Oct 07 19:36:16 so it doesn't work :P Oct 07 19:36:26 ok, so we have to check if hoversels work with c apps Oct 07 19:36:28 well... profile switching does not work... the hoversel does Oct 07 19:36:31 if yes, then it's python-elementary problem Oct 07 19:36:36 no Oct 07 19:36:39 hoversel does not work Oct 07 19:36:52 as selecting does nothing - app doesn't know anything about change Oct 07 19:37:05 then it is a python-elementary problem Oct 07 19:37:15 because I have a hoversel menu in efl2... and that does work Oct 07 19:37:26 hoversel? Oct 07 19:37:29 where? Oct 07 19:37:38 contacts options for example Oct 07 19:37:43 options? Oct 07 19:37:51 it's hover, not hoversel Oct 07 19:38:00 AFAIK, dunno if you changed that ;P Oct 07 19:38:04 ahhh... that's the difference ;) Oct 07 19:38:16 sel... for selection ;) Oct 07 19:38:19 hoversel in shr-settings -> appearance works but the ones in profiles and in others not Oct 07 19:38:28 really? Oct 07 19:38:30 hmm Oct 07 19:38:42 well i could change the theme using the appearance hoversel Oct 07 19:38:50 but couldn't change the profile Oct 07 19:39:18 hmm Oct 07 19:39:20 that's weird Oct 07 19:39:22 ok, i'll check it Oct 07 19:39:23 yep Oct 07 19:39:50 btw, i tested upgrading with the feed, worked flawlessly expect the hoversels and the wierd xorg rotation Oct 07 19:40:08 so we have to fix hoversels Oct 07 19:40:17 * mickey|dinner notes hoversels suck a bit Oct 07 19:40:17 and then we can sync feed Oct 07 19:40:26 * mickey|dinner would prefer a real combobox-alike widget Oct 07 19:40:34 that actually displays the "active" value Oct 07 19:45:59 * mrmoku thinks to have seen something like that on raster's todo list :) Oct 07 19:46:30 * [ scrollable dropdown combo box ] Oct 07 19:46:54 in (more widgets/features - medium priority) Oct 07 19:47:46 ah Oct 07 19:47:55 and the carousel... Oct 07 19:48:38 Good night Oct 07 19:48:48 SchorhrAway: good night Oct 07 19:49:47 Bye :) Oct 07 19:55:07 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd65d343077f9 10/fsogsmd/src/ (lib/mediator.vala plugins/gsm_device/plugin.vala): fsogsmd: add function skeletons for all of org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.* Oct 07 19:56:36 mrmoku: everything shr-* segfault... Oct 07 19:56:39 +s Oct 07 19:57:08 ~seen ptitjes Oct 07 19:57:11 ptitjes was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 7d 1h 58m 10s ago, saying: 'hummmm libmodulo....'. Oct 07 19:57:16 #457 0x4002ef8c in phonegui_init () from /usr/lib/libframeworkd-phonegui.so.0 Oct 07 19:57:17 No locals. Oct 07 19:57:17 ~seen ptitjes_ Oct 07 19:57:18 i haven't seen 'ptitjes_', mickey|dinner Oct 07 19:57:22 that's inifinite loop Oct 07 19:57:31 TAsn!!!!!!!!!!!! Oct 07 19:58:13 trying to rebuild phonegui... Oct 07 19:58:43 anyone know where didier is? Oct 07 20:01:17 mrmoku: the screen in shr-messages is not scrollable (in efl2). if there is a long message, it flows out the screen at the bottom. Oct 07 20:01:20 dos1: I had that yesterday with my local builds... somehow rebuilding fixed it Oct 07 20:02:43 Slyon: hmm... scrolls for me. what rev have you installed? opkg list_installed libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2-0 ? Oct 07 20:03:16 mrmoku: 0.0.1+gitr65+75afae4e923e4b1426ffb81d029b5f92e1fd6755-r1 Oct 07 20:03:46 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * rd0063c91f38a 10/src/view/contact-show-view.c: contacts: actually really fix adding new contacts :-) Oct 07 20:04:11 mrmoku: index dowsn't work anymore :( Oct 07 20:04:17 mrmoku: okay, there seem to be new ones, going to update :) Oct 07 20:04:34 dos1: contact index? Oct 07 20:04:39 yup Oct 07 20:04:48 do you have some utf8 chars in your names? Oct 07 20:06:06 there is one Oct 07 20:06:08 for tests Oct 07 20:07:10 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r24c00957f2f5 10/src/view/contact-show-view.c: contacts: do not show Path in the field list Oct 07 20:07:14 because that is broken Oct 07 20:07:39 dos1: tasn wanted to fix that today Oct 07 20:07:49 (probably tonight ;) Oct 07 20:08:01 mrmoku: but it worked ;x Oct 07 20:09:06 still works for me Oct 07 20:10:05 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * rd2f6279b4553 10/src/view/contact-show-view.c: contacts: add missing bracket Oct 07 20:10:09 dos1: are you building something? Oct 07 20:10:17 atm? no Oct 07 20:10:27 * mrmoku rebuilds efl2 then Oct 07 20:13:24 mrmoku: message view doesn't scroll Oct 07 20:13:29 just checked Oct 07 20:15:05 hmm Oct 07 20:15:52 dos1: which rev? Oct 07 20:16:04 mrmoku: from three commits ago Oct 07 20:16:05 :P Oct 07 20:16:22 strange then Oct 07 20:16:29 mrmoku: message view. not message list Oct 07 20:16:31 :P Oct 07 20:16:41 ahh ok :) Oct 07 20:16:47 * mrmoku has just short messaages ;) Oct 07 20:17:04 that probably was never different (at least in efl2) Oct 07 20:17:34 ahh you already built the index :) Oct 07 20:18:19 dos1: I will flash the image tomorrow morning... and test it Oct 07 20:18:28 now it's bedtime :D Oct 07 20:18:45 gnight all Oct 07 20:19:32 night! Oct 07 20:24:18 baruch: ping Oct 07 20:25:50 onen|openBmap, pong Oct 07 20:27:01 baruch: hi. just to let you know to ignore my comments in my last email about the gypsy part. I am currently looking at your code to have a first idea. And I see gypsy here and there. So once I have understood how it works. I will ask more questions Oct 07 20:28:16 onen|openBmap, I implemented a Gypsy interface (mostly complete), fso-gpsd is a program that connects to a Gypsy interface and exports a gpsd interface so that traditional gps programs like tangogps can work with the data Oct 07 20:28:43 baruch: Oct 07 20:29:10 baruch: got it. then you did it right :-) Oct 07 20:30:08 Now I would really like to have a gps program that can show two cursors at once, so that I can show both the gps one and the gsm one Oct 07 20:30:21 this will help evaluate the quality in real-time Oct 07 20:30:34 Though I don't really need it to know it's not very good Oct 07 20:30:45 that would be coool Oct 07 20:30:52 baruch: I gave some thinking to your vala wish, and I think that it would not be too hard for me to use it. Now for the logger, maybe it will make sense to keep the python version next to the vala one, in order to reach (maybe) other platforms Oct 07 20:31:17 spaetz: hi Oct 07 20:31:18 But it's all a rough cut for now, I just want to get a full system from logging to server to location so that we will have users Oct 07 20:31:28 spaetz: did you see my email? ;-) Oct 07 20:32:22 spaetz, yeah, but I looked at tangogps source a while ago and wasn't very happy to hack on it, it's a complete spaghetti Oct 07 20:32:27 baruch: I have the impression of hearing Nick (you should finish the location service, so that people see that it is useful to log cells) :-) Oct 07 20:32:33 onen|openBmap, the one replying to my vala code? yes... Oct 07 20:32:49 I started writing something of my own but abandoned it after I failed to use gypsy from vala, I now know how to do it and may resurrect that program Oct 07 20:32:56 baruch: you should have a look at omgps Oct 07 20:33:18 baruch, neever looked at tango code Oct 07 20:33:29 spaetz, if you care for your health, don't Oct 07 20:34:08 hehe Oct 07 20:34:12 onen|openBmap, I should though I dislike the UI of omgps, it's not finger friendly Oct 07 20:34:20 baruch: :-) you are not the first person I hear to say so. for omgps, I heard better comments. not sure if this was about the quality of code though. give it a look Oct 07 20:34:27 but UI is fixable, if the code is good Oct 07 20:34:39 baruch: agreed, I pointed it already to the creator Oct 07 20:34:51 is omgps worth tryingg out? Oct 07 20:35:09 I still use tangogps mostly Oct 07 20:35:34 spaetz: I tried it, and it is quite nice. Never used tangogps though, thus cannot compare. You may ask rhkrhk who is a strong supporter of omgps Oct 07 20:35:37 mostly due to the ui issues Oct 07 20:36:35 spaetz: baruch: so you both guys are working on location service in vala. Let me introduce one to the other :-) Oct 07 20:38:05 * playya_ throws navit packages into the room Oct 07 20:38:17 baruch: which version of vala do you use? Oct 07 20:38:22 it alreaky supports gypsy Oct 07 20:38:28 nah, i did juustt a quick hack, porting your python client Oct 07 20:38:31 the latest I guess, 0.7.7 from debian Oct 07 20:39:17 i did a big mistake i didn't reckognize on my host: patching vala files Oct 07 20:39:30 playya_, true, it can even show 2 markers, gps and gsm position Oct 07 20:39:44 I took spaetz code and used it as my base, though I later noticed it was mostly taken from the vala dbus server example Oct 07 20:39:49 spaetz, yes Oct 07 20:39:50 baruch: ok I am stupid. I was about to ask if vala would not prevent to run on platforms where it is not well supported (or under the last version). But it makes no sense, vala is compiled with glib and that's it Oct 07 20:40:12 and you can navigate between them :) Oct 07 20:40:15 bah. Oct 07 20:40:21 I can't believe I only now got ohme. :| Oct 07 20:41:38 vala just generates c code which is then compiled, any platform for which you can compile C and have the set of glib libraries, you can use for vala projects Oct 07 20:42:15 baruch: indeed, thus I started a stupid question ;-) Oct 07 20:42:49 you can even compile some vala code without using glib Oct 07 20:43:23 the other advantage of vala is that it should be possible to retarget the vala compiler to generate code for the android vm Oct 07 20:43:44 though the libraries will pose a problem Oct 07 20:44:13 baruch: may not be needed. android allows to compile natvie code. thus use vala to generate c code, then compile it using android tools Oct 07 20:44:47 but is it possible to run gtk/efl apps on android? Oct 07 20:45:09 baruch: which debian repository do you use? pkg-fso? unstable? etc.? Oct 07 20:45:29 unstable Oct 07 20:45:35 I dont use debian on the device Oct 07 20:46:11 playya_: I strongly doubt. the all gui thing is android specific. running native code for what I have understood runs in a specific place of the system. it is not "real" native. Oct 07 20:46:46 baruch: is unstable reactive regarding new releases of vala? Oct 07 20:46:51 baruch, yes. it's mostly the vala sample code :-) Oct 07 20:47:34 onen|openBmap, when debian is not in a freeze updates happen fairly frequently Oct 07 20:49:44 I've been a bit out of the loop lately --- I don't suppose anyone's made any progress in figuring out the 'black screen of death' issue in the shr testing candidate (and apparently in more recent unstable builds also)? I had to stop using the testing candidate and revert back to my build from Sept 5th, cause I was missing too many calls... Oct 07 20:59:16 baruch: ok got vala installed Oct 07 21:01:07 you need to have the openmoko toolchain to be able to build, you need the c cross compiler and libraries Oct 07 21:01:19 where is baruch's code? Oct 07 21:01:35 on sourceforge? Oct 07 21:02:35 or the shr buildenv... probably Oct 07 21:04:27 baruch: you mean if I want to cross compile for the phone? Oct 07 21:04:47 baruch: I might compile it on the phone too, directly Oct 07 21:05:27 baruch: or retarget the fso dbus calls to the phone over ssh, in order to run the software directly on my laptop Oct 07 21:05:57 spaetz: http://wiki.github.com/baruch/openbmap-locator Oct 07 21:06:46 thanks Oct 07 21:09:34 baruch: baruch and I have been discussing where would be the most appropriate place to put the code Oct 07 21:09:51 spaetz: baruch and I have been discussing where would be the most appropriate place to put the code Oct 07 21:10:30 openbmap proj on sourceforge sounds like the natural home. Oct 07 21:10:33 onen|openBmap, a setup to run it on the host machine would be best Oct 07 21:10:47 but I'm too lazy to organize it Oct 07 21:10:48 but anything should do Oct 07 21:11:01 since it's git I can push to two places anyway Oct 07 21:11:12