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Oct 24 07:24:57 <JaMa> morning
Oct 24 07:27:25 <Arhuaco> Early morning.
Oct 24 07:35:17 <Zorkman2> normal morning
Oct 24 07:42:41 <Arhuaco> ping larsc
Oct 24 07:43:05 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: hey
Oct 24 07:43:10 <PaulFertser> :)
Oct 24 07:43:18 <Arhuaco> Hello PaulFertser.
Oct 24 07:44:38 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser. What's new? I talked to larsc and I finally made a patch against branch om-gta02-2.6.31. I get the events with "cat /dev/input/touchscreen0  | hexdump" but I the TS doesn't work in X.
Oct 24 07:45:09 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: everything that's new is in the repo already :)
Oct 24 07:45:42 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: you might want to install input-utils, it has input-events so you'll see decoded events in a simple and comfortable way.
Oct 24 07:46:06 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser. I'll check.
Oct 24 07:46:23 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: hi
Oct 24 07:46:34 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: also you might need to run hald for X.org to detect input devices.
Oct 24 07:46:37 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: hi :)
Oct 24 07:48:10 <JaMa> btw is driver for sd card already included in om-gta02-2.6.31?
Oct 24 07:48:25 <PaulFertser> JaMa: you mean glamo-mci?
Oct 24 07:48:37 <JaMa> I tried to boot it with config from arch/arm/configs/gta02* and it haven't seen mmcblk0p1
Oct 24 07:48:55 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser. Oh, I see. It's quite late here. I think I'll send the patches via email (to you and to Lars). They should be OK if I can get the events from userspace.
Oct 24 07:48:56 <PaulFertser> JaMa: defconfig is far from ideal
Oct 24 07:49:15 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: seems that it will be possible to make a right mb emulation in xorg?
Oct 24 07:49:35 <JaMa> PaulFertser: ah, ok.. I'll check config
Oct 24 07:49:38 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: nice, thanks for your work! :)
Oct 24 07:49:51 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: doesn't tslib already have that facility?
Oct 24 07:50:00 <JaMa> PaulFertser: or if you or Arhuaco have some better one.. I'll try it with
Oct 24 07:50:35 <JaMa> Heinervdm: morning
Oct 24 07:51:03 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: not sure. shr lacks this emu...
Oct 24 07:51:05 <JaMa> Heinervdm: as you talked with rebelThor yesterday about ffalarms, is that patch included?
Oct 24 07:55:01 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: probably JaMa knows ;)
Oct 24 07:55:45 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: let's ask him?! 8)
Oct 24 07:56:02 * JaMa is using evdev and haven't tried right mb..
Oct 24 07:57:45 * Q-Master lacks of a normal alarm clock... ffalarms are good, but setting them every day kills me
Oct 24 08:00:40 <Heinervdm> JaMa: there is a new ffalarms revision, so i think it is, Bump SRCREV ;)
Oct 24 08:03:02 <Defiant> Q-Master: I plan to start work on a BigClock copy in the next days. Time, alarm, counter
Oct 24 08:03:43 <Q-Master> Defiant: great. If you need help or|and betatesting - you're welcome
Oct 24 08:04:17 <JaMa> Heinervdm: ok its in rev 59
Oct 24 08:17:53 <JaMa> PaulFertser: yes.. it was missing.. rebuilding now :)
Oct 24 08:18:44 <PaulFertser> JaMa: i hope you understand you won't have TS support because Arhuaco's just mailed the patches.
Oct 24 08:19:34 <JaMa> PaulFertser: yes...
Oct 24 08:20:13 <JaMa> PaulFertser: if it boots I'll maybe try to port Weiss glamo-kms patches from drm-tracking branch..
Oct 24 08:30:14 <JaMa> PaulFertser: it boots ok now..strang thing i noticed is that pings over usb0 connection were around 1ms now all are around 1s, do you have any idea why?
Oct 24 08:32:44 <PaulFertser> JaMa: probably it still misses the necessary patch, i think we forgot to push it :(
Oct 24 08:33:22 <JaMa> ok, I'll wait then.. thanks
Oct 24 08:33:54 <PaulFertser> JaMa: you can apply it yourself, it's easy.
Oct 24 08:34:10 <JaMa> Weiss: any eta for you to have time for drm-tracking patch?
Oct 24 08:34:14 <JaMa> PaulFertser: where it is?
Oct 24 08:34:25 <PaulFertser> JaMa: looking for it atm
Oct 24 08:41:15 <PaulFertser> JaMa: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/66223
Oct 24 08:45:26 <JaMa> PaulFertser: thanks, rebuilding
Oct 24 08:45:39 <PaulFertser> JaMa: sorry for not pushing it to the repo
Oct 24 08:59:51 <Heinervdm> TAsn: ping http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/684
Oct 24 09:00:02 <JaMa> PaulFertser: patch works for me, thanks! keep great work
Oct 24 09:00:58 <JaMa> NOTE: Running task 5332 of 7743
Oct 24 09:01:35 <Heinervdm> TAsn: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/677
Oct 24 09:01:55 <Heinervdm> TAsn: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/672
Oct 24 09:15:12 <Heinervdm> JaMa: could you compile libframeworkd-glib-0.0.1+gitr118+2c3ab6e28c4e0a3a7ef6d3179010e44e083b7715 ?
Oct 24 09:16:41 <JaMa> Heinervdm: yes
Oct 24 09:17:19 <JaMa> Heinervdm: in shr/merge.. why to you have so big gitr118? you didn't wipe out srcrev cache?
Oct 24 09:17:23 <Heinervdm> JaMa: i'm getting this: http://shr.pastebin.com/m5a327773
Oct 24 09:17:55 <Heinervdm> JaMa: where is the srcrev cache?
Oct 24 09:18:25 <JaMa> libframeworkd-glib-0.0.1+gitr0+0f6f9d3865e33cb6b0855cb384303f5263d84abd-r0.do_package hmm I have different revision..
Oct 24 09:18:58 <JaMa> Heinervdm: I have it in tmpdir-dev-shr/cache/om-gta02/bb_persist_data.sqlite3
Oct 24 09:19:34 <Heinervdm> JaMa: i deleted the tmpdir, so i don't know why i have such big gitr
Oct 24 09:20:47 <JaMa> Heinervdm: maybe you have PERSISTENT_DIR =  in your local.conf
Oct 24 09:21:47 <Heinervdm> JaMa: no, but i think that's not important
Oct 24 09:22:16 <JaMa> Heinervdm: I'll check your revision after shr-full-image finish..
Oct 24 09:22:40 <Heinervdm> JaMa: ok
Oct 24 09:23:21 <Heinervdm> mrmoku|away: please check libframeworkd-glib
Oct 24 09:24:10 <Hardy> how far is SHR? ready to be called "True SHR"? ^^
Oct 24 09:24:12 <JaMa> Heinervdm: there is just typo.. 
Oct 24 09:24:21 <JaMa> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libframeworkd-glib.git;a=blobdiff;f=src/ogsmd/frameworkd-glib-ogsmd-sim.c;h=6c5867540a445b2b4321e3587ac4b160681829c7;hp=ec4b9f4175e35b4afb11494ea8db90c3e013d2b1;hb=2c3ab6e28c4e0a3a7ef6d3179010e44e083b7715;hpb=5772c3fe85931c645d0e2ee75913cda5b521000a
Oct 24 09:24:35 <JaMa> s/SIM_UNKOWN/SIM_UNKNOWN/g
Oct 24 09:24:36 <apt> JaMa meant: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libframeworkd-glib.git;a=blobdiff;f=src/ogsmd/frameworkd-glib-ogsmd-sim.c;h=6c5867540a445b2b4321e3587ac4b160681829c7;hp=ec4b9f4175e35b4afb11494ea8db90c3e013d2b1;hb=2c3ab6e28c4e0a3a7ef6d3179010e44e083b7715;hpb=5772c3fe85931...
Oct 24 09:25:45 <Heinervdm> ok, who can correct that?
Oct 24 09:26:30 * JaMa not
Oct 24 09:27:10 <JaMa> NOTE: Running task 7456 of 7743
Oct 24 09:37:54 <morphis> heyho
Oct 24 09:42:28 <JaMa> - Add to future removals: HAL input device support, Xsdl, DGA 2.0 wtf? http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-commit/2009-October/023893.html
Oct 24 09:43:53 <Heinervdm> They just added HAL input device support, haven't they?
Oct 24 09:44:58 <JaMa> Yes i think in 1.6
Oct 24 09:45:25 <Heinervdm> strange
Oct 24 09:45:42 <JaMa> Its few months I migrated xorg.conf on my boxes to hal-based config
Oct 24 09:46:57 <JaMa> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/doc/xorg-docs/commit/?id=570e2ff8736bbc977085c5b3e47d159d4dffd90b The HAL maintainers have deprecated HAL, so the X.Org developers are investigating alternatives.
Oct 24 09:48:18 <lindi-> ha, I never migrated to hal in the first place :-)
Oct 24 09:48:26 <JaMa> lindi-: lucky you :)
Oct 24 09:49:28 <JaMa> HAL is in maintenance mode - no new features are added. All future development focuses on Software/DeviceKit-disks, Software/DeviceKit-power, NetworkManager, PulseAudio, udev, ...
Oct 24 09:50:00 <JaMa> hopefully there will be some migrating script for *.fdi to something new and shiny
Oct 24 10:01:53 <lindi-> JaMa: new and shiny that will be deprecated in two years time :)
Oct 24 10:02:33 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: what's up with libframeworkd-glib?
Oct 24 10:02:42 <mrmoku> ooohh
Oct 24 10:04:18 <CIA-26> freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * rad6ed23acdda 10/src/ogsmd/frameworkd-glib-ogsmd-sim.c: 
Oct 24 10:04:18 <CIA-26> freesmartphone.org: fix stupid typo - difficult to correctly spell SIM_UNKNOWN
Oct 24 10:04:18 <CIA-26> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Oct 24 10:04:31 <mrmoku> Heinervdm, JaMa: sorry for inconvenience :|
Oct 24 10:08:22 <TAsn> Heinervdm, can close them?
Oct 24 10:08:59 <Heinervdm> TAsn: they are in shr/import but not in feed
Oct 24 10:09:05 <TAsn> cool enough.
Oct 24 10:09:56 <TAsn> Heinervdm, done, thanks.
Oct 24 10:12:44 <TAsn> mrmoku, fixed what we discussed yesterday? can I upgrade? :)
Oct 24 10:13:00 <mrmoku> no
Oct 24 10:13:18 <mrmoku> TAsn: fixed the phone-ui part
Oct 24 10:13:22 <mrmoku> working on the phone-ui-shr part
Oct 24 10:18:21 <Heinervdm> NOTE: Running task 7051 of 7054
Oct 24 10:20:39 <JaMa> Heinervdm: I'm rebuilding now.. for commits <12hours :)
Oct 24 10:20:51 <Heinervdm> :)
Oct 24 10:21:03 <Heinervdm> ERROR: function do_rootfs failed
Oct 24 10:30:09 <Heinervdm> JaMa: i think i found why my image is so big
Oct 24 10:30:24 <Heinervdm>  /usr/lib/modules has 75MB
Oct 24 10:30:38 <Heinervdm> so sth is wrong with my kernel
Oct 24 10:32:42 <TAsn> mrmoku, cool, thanks, let me know.
Oct 24 10:32:58 <mrmoku> TAsn: trying to build now
Oct 24 10:33:00 <mrmoku> (locally)
Oct 24 10:33:05 <TAsn> ok.
Oct 24 10:34:06 <JaMa> Heinervdm: btw tested 2.6.31 and looks good..
Oct 24 10:34:24 <JaMa> Heinervdm: just wait for ts patch push and kms patch :)
Oct 24 10:34:28 <Heinervdm> JaMa: how fast is resume with glamo?
Oct 24 10:34:49 <JaMa> you mean glamo-KMS?
Oct 24 10:35:10 * JaMa never tested.. never resumed OK, but hope that it will change after 2.6.31 review
Oct 24 10:35:14 <Heinervdm> no, normal xf86-video-glamo
Oct 24 10:36:04 <JaMa> xf86-video-glamo and xf86-video-glamo-kms behaves quite the same on non-KMS kernel..
Oct 24 10:36:14 <JaMa> so for me still ~ 4sec
Oct 24 10:36:24 <JaMa> probably less
Oct 24 10:38:07 <JaMa> bbl
Oct 24 10:39:33 <Heinervdm> So not better with 2.6.31?
Oct 24 11:24:33 <md2k7> I get loads of 404 with SHR/FSO Makefile's initial 'make image'
Oct 24 11:24:45 <md2k7> is that supposed to be this way?
Oct 24 11:25:03 <Heinervdm> yes
Oct 24 11:25:13 <CIA-26> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r0a184cb6b52b 10/vapi/ (elm.vapi evas.vapi): 
Oct 24 11:25:13 <CIA-26> freesmartphone.org: evas.vapi: bind Evas_Map
Oct 24 11:25:13 <CIA-26> freesmartphone.org: elm.vapi: catch up with API changes
Oct 24 11:28:50 <farhaven> hmm, btw, does the keyboard work in landscape mode again?
Oct 24 11:28:58 <farhaven> has been broken for like ~4 months
Oct 24 11:37:47 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: what is wrong with the SCORouting thing?
Oct 24 11:38:14 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: /etc/bluetooth/ is gone
Oct 24 11:38:32 <mrmoku> ohh
Oct 24 11:38:46 <mrmoku> bluez change?
Oct 24 11:38:52 <mrmoku> or missing something?
Oct 24 11:39:36 <Heinervdm> i think bluez change
Oct 24 11:39:58 <Heinervdm> you can try to build it and varify it
Oct 24 11:42:19 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: well I believe you :)
Oct 24 11:42:23 <mrmoku> just wanted to understand
Oct 24 11:42:36 <mrmoku> as that thing is needed to easy the life of bluetooth headset users
Oct 24 11:43:08 <Heinervdm> we have to look where the config is located now...
Oct 24 11:54:40 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, regarding phoneui edj files: do you really want the seperator to be that narrow (i am thinking about bright sunlight)
Oct 24 11:55:48 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: hmm... how big is it now?
Oct 24 11:56:08 <JesusMcCloud> 4 px
Oct 24 11:56:15 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: 2px then?
Oct 24 11:56:26 <TAsn> mrmoku, JesusMcCloud, I thought you talked about keyboard separator, not phoneui
Oct 24 11:56:45 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, thats what u siggested
Oct 24 11:56:57 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: I suggested 0.5px ;)
Oct 24 11:56:57 <TAsn> mrmoku, when will the oe merge be ready?
Oct 24 11:57:12 <mrmoku> Running task 2103 of 6926
Oct 24 11:57:15 <mrmoku> on my local build
Oct 24 11:57:27 <JesusMcCloud> btw TAsn, the keyboard is an app withoud window border, u cannot draw outside window :-P
Oct 24 11:57:34 <mrmoku> TAsn: or do you mean when we will have all stuff in org.oe.dev?
Oct 24 11:58:02 <TAsn> mrmoku, I mean when will we drop import?
Oct 24 11:58:03 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, will make it 2 px and post s screenie
Oct 24 11:58:21 <mrmoku> TAsn: as soon as we build good images with shr/merge
Oct 24 11:58:28 <TAsn> :)
Oct 24 11:58:41 <TAsn> you make it sound simple.
Oct 24 11:58:45 <TAsn> brb.
Oct 24 11:59:17 <mrmoku> TAsn: if it were that simple :|
Oct 24 11:59:37 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: what about JaMa's x bumping patch? should I apply it?
Oct 24 11:59:59 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: i haven't tried it
Oct 24 12:00:06 <Heinervdm> but it should be ok
Oct 24 12:00:25 <mrmoku> ok
Oct 24 12:00:29 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, could you also put xf86-video-fbdev into the feeds until glamo has faster resume?
Oct 24 12:01:27 <dos1> into feeds of course, not into image
Oct 24 12:01:42 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: hmm... does not apply
Oct 24 12:01:49 <mrmoku> will wait for Jama then to update it :)
Oct 24 12:01:54 <Heinervdm> :)
Oct 24 12:02:22 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: yup, when it builds... in shr/import it does not build right now
Oct 24 12:03:54 <JesusMcCloud> bummer, i deleted the package i built
Oct 24 12:04:00 * mrmoku off for lunch
Oct 24 12:07:47 <mickeyl> Sup3rkiddo: heya! how's life?
Oct 24 12:08:15 <Sup3rkiddo> mickeyl, hello sir :D..... doing good
Oct 24 12:09:00 <mickeyl> glad to hear.
Oct 24 12:09:44 <mickeyl> i guess you have been following Vala, right?
Oct 24 12:09:55 <mickeyl> it's so amazing w/ async coroutines and dbus
Oct 24 12:10:06 <mickeyl> fsogsmd is making _huge_ progress
Oct 24 12:11:19 <Sup3rkiddo> mickeyl, yeah.. i have been following but haven't really had a chance to dig in.. :(
Oct 24 12:11:30 * Sup3rkiddo needs to manage time better
Oct 24 12:11:46 <mickeyl> lots of work? 
Oct 24 12:13:47 <Sup3rkiddo> mickeyl, yeah... things should cool down a bit in 2-3 weeks though... then, hopefully I would be able to spend some time on FSO.. (been telling this again and again :P)
Oct 24 12:14:44 <bumbl> dos1: is a group feature planned for opimd?
Oct 24 12:15:05 <mickeyl> Sup3rkiddo: hehe, that'd be really cool. I need some Vala hackers to help me
Oct 24 12:15:31 <mickeyl> unfortunately the rest of the FSO folks are busy with studies an non-FSO work
Oct 24 12:15:39 <mickeyl> s/an/and/
Oct 24 12:15:39 <apt> mickeyl meant: unfortunately the rest of the FSO folks are busy with studies and non-FSO work
Oct 24 12:15:51 <mickeyl> besides, they have yet to get the hang out of Vala
Oct 24 12:16:10 <Sup3rkiddo> mickeyl, sure, but I'd rather start with some low hanging fruits first... python at work has made me a spoilt brat
Oct 24 12:17:39 <mickeyl> hehe
Oct 24 12:17:39 <mickeyl> right
Oct 24 12:18:09 <mickeyl> i'm pestering Jürg to let Vala develop into a statically typed Python ;)
Oct 24 12:18:22 <mickeyl> he already agreed to array slicing and tuples
Oct 24 12:18:35 <mickeyl> just a matter of time ;)
Oct 24 12:18:38 <Sup3rkiddo> wow
Oct 24 12:19:29 <Sup3rkiddo> and later, list comprehension..... :P
Oct 24 12:21:02 <thrashold> Why not just use Python? :D
Oct 24 12:21:09 <Sup3rkiddo> hehe
Oct 24 12:21:55 <playya_> oh. hi Sup3rkiddo . nice to see you :D
Oct 24 12:22:14 <Sup3rkiddo> playya_, ola
Oct 24 12:22:20 <Sup3rkiddo> likewise :D
Oct 24 12:22:42 <mickeyl> thrashold: speed and compile time vs. runtime checking
Oct 24 12:23:13 <thrashold> Speed is overrated. Never had any speed problems with my python elementary apps :)
Oct 24 12:23:16 <TAsn> thrashold, and forced indentation sucks ;]
Oct 24 12:23:59 <thrashold> TAsn: How so? :)
Oct 24 12:24:16 <TAsn> dunno, it's just how it is.
Oct 24 12:24:30 <TAsn> I hate the fact that something you can't see can break your app
Oct 24 12:24:33 <TAsn> (tab vs space{
Oct 24 12:25:35 <playya_> give genie a try ;)
Oct 24 12:25:43 <thrashold> So you don't use tabs. Kate shows tabs. :) And it breaks with a syntax error anyway, so no problem. Also, if you're using 8-space tabs it won't break your app
Oct 24 12:25:46 <playya_> s/try/chance/
Oct 24 12:25:47 <apt> playya_ meant: give genie a chance ;)
Oct 24 12:25:51 <mickeyl> python speed is a factor of how much code is being done in C
Oct 24 12:25:51 <bumbl> TAsn: why does pyphonelog not "unred" all of my entries?
Oct 24 12:26:01 <mickeyl> w/ elementary most of the work is done in C
Oct 24 12:26:30 <TAsn> bumbl, try making the limit
Oct 24 12:26:33 <TAsn> 3234324
Oct 24 12:26:33 <thrashold> mickeyl: That's the point
Oct 24 12:26:39 <TAsn> (missed calls limit)
Oct 24 12:27:13 <TAsn> and then open it
Oct 24 12:27:15 <bumbl> ? where to do this?
Oct 24 12:27:17 <TAsn> and then change the limit back
Oct 24 12:28:04 <TAsn> ~/.phonelog/phonelog.conf
Oct 24 12:28:37 <TAsn> there's a "missed_limit" field.
Oct 24 12:28:46 <bumbl> ok
Oct 24 12:29:23 <bumbl> hmm landscape mode really fucks up the neo (illume) + totally fails after resume
Oct 24 12:29:32 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: I forgot the shr/merge prefix but this one is for merge too http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/372/
Oct 24 12:29:43 <TAsn> bumbl, no idea. :|
Oct 24 12:31:48 <TAsn> dos1, shr-splash-theme-logo: update-alternatives: Linking //usr/share/shr-splash/theme to /usr/share/shr-splash/themes/shr-splash-theme-simple
Oct 24 12:31:52 <TAsn> I think you did something wrong :)
Oct 24 12:36:28 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, is it normal, that messagelist does not updated even when i close an re-open phoneui-msgs?
Oct 24 12:36:38 <TAsn> it is.
Oct 24 12:36:44 <JesusMcCloud> (i reflashed so clean system)
Oct 24 12:37:04 <dos1> TAsn: i think mrmoku set too low priority :P
Oct 24 12:37:15 <JesusMcCloud> i mean when i delete it is gone, but when i get a msg it never shows up
Oct 24 12:37:34 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, oh.
Oct 24 12:37:37 <TAsn> this means only one thing.
Oct 24 12:37:43 <dos1> TAsn: but you have shr-settings, so what's the problem? ;D
Oct 24 12:37:43 <TAsn> in frameworkd.conf
Oct 24 12:37:49 <TAsn> you didn't choose sqlite-messages
Oct 24 12:37:50 <dos1> (i know, hoversel ;p)
Oct 24 12:37:54 <TAsn> and opimd sucks in that matter :)
Oct 24 12:38:07 <TAsn> dos1, actually doesn't show correctly either.
Oct 24 12:38:08 <JesusMcCloud> well shr settings has broken hoversel
Oct 24 12:38:12 <dos1> TAsn: hmm?
Oct 24 12:38:12 <TAsn> dos1, and that's important.
Oct 24 12:38:32 <dos1> TAsn: sim-messages-fso as default should work too
Oct 24 12:38:33 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, you gotta set that.
Oct 24 12:38:38 <TAsn> dos1, no it shouldn't
Oct 24 12:38:42 <TAsn> as opimd doesn't update
Oct 24 12:38:49 <dos1> it should
Oct 24 12:38:54 <dos1> as i tested it
Oct 24 12:38:59 <TAsn> but it doesn't (checked that many times)
Oct 24 12:39:01 <JesusMcCloud> is the hoversel issue somethign easy to fix?
Oct 24 12:39:06 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, yes.
Oct 24 12:39:10 <playya_> oh. the shr/merge prefix. mine are shr/merge, too :)
Oct 24 12:39:14 <dos1> JesusMcCloud: no
Oct 24 12:39:26 <JesusMcCloud> my head hurts
Oct 24 12:39:29 <TAsn> dos1, morphis said it's there
Oct 24 12:39:34 <TAsn> and you should just change callbacks or something.
Oct 24 12:39:49 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, that i saw when i read the cmdline outputs
Oct 24 12:40:04 <dos1> TAsn: callbacks are the same in working and not-working hoversels
Oct 24 12:40:17 <TAsn> then?
Oct 24 12:40:21 <dos1> and 'some callbacks' doesn't tell me anything
Oct 24 12:40:23 <dos1> :P
Oct 24 12:41:07 <TAsn> ask morphis then
Oct 24 12:41:13 <TAsn> because either words tell mo nothing.
Oct 24 12:41:13 <TAsn> ;)
Oct 24 12:41:18 <TAsn> im off.
Oct 24 12:41:59 <dos1> i haven't seen him there since you told me that ;P
Oct 24 12:43:03 <JesusMcCloud> dos1, hoversel must've changed quite a bit. i mean now the default themes shine through. are there any updated python elementary-test in e svn?
Oct 24 13:02:20 <JaMa> Heinervdm: was fso-abyss missing from your image on first run too?
Oct 24 13:02:39 <Heinervdm> JaMa: yes, as on every first run
Oct 24 13:03:02 <JaMa> Heinervdm: so we have reproducible problem :)
Oct 24 13:03:20 <JaMa> Heinervdm: pity that it takes about 10 hours to reproduce it :)
Oct 24 13:03:22 <Heinervdm> JaMa: this problem is as old as SHR
Oct 24 13:03:42 <JaMa> I know.. so its time to fix it..
Oct 24 13:04:05 <Heinervdm> JaMa: i think we have to fix bitbake for that
Oct 24 13:04:44 <JaMa> Heinervdm: why not add fso-abyss directly to IMAGE_INSTALL?
Oct 24 13:06:05 <Heinervdm> JaMa: the problem is, that bitbake does not build packages in rrecommends
Oct 24 13:06:18 <Heinervdm> it just include them if they are build
Oct 24 13:06:46 <JaMa> and why not add fso-abyss to REDEPENDS?
Oct 24 13:07:01 <JaMa> at least for workaround?
Oct 24 13:07:34 <Heinervdm> in shr-image it should be ok
Oct 24 13:07:54 <JaMa> are you sure, that fso-abyss upgrade is pulled tu runqueue if available? Or is it ignored as while building and you have to call bitbake fso-abyss manually for upgrade too?
Oct 24 13:08:42 <Heinervdm> don't know
Oct 24 13:13:58 <JaMa> do we want libfribidi or fribidi? fribidi is newer and angstrom is preferring that.. so I guess we can too
Oct 24 13:14:10 <Heinervdm> yes
Oct 24 13:14:22 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... on the buildhost libx11 fails
Oct 24 13:14:33 <mrmoku> troff: fatal error: can't find macro file s
Oct 24 13:15:14 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: workaround: install groff on buildhos
Oct 24 13:15:22 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: bad
Oct 24 13:15:25 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: can't do that :P
Oct 24 13:16:16 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: hmm... and it is installed
Oct 24 13:16:26 <mrmoku> shr@opmbuild:~/shr-oemerge$ groff -v
Oct 24 13:16:26 <mrmoku> GNU groff version 1.18.1
Oct 24 13:16:48 <Heinervdm> GNU groff version 1.20.1
Oct 24 13:16:53 <playya_> mrmoku, which preferred-xorg-versions is used by SHR?
Oct 24 13:17:00 <mrmoku> GNU groff version 1.18.1.4
Oct 24 13:17:00 <Heinervdm> -live
Oct 24 13:17:05 <mrmoku> on my buildhost
Oct 24 13:17:14 <mrmoku> playya_: better ask JaMa or Heinervdm :)
Oct 24 13:17:29 * mrmoku would have to find out
Oct 24 13:17:43 <playya_> Heinervdm, but -live use ?= maybe we should use =
Oct 24 13:17:44 <Heinervdm> playya_: -live
Oct 24 13:18:18 <Heinervdm> no, it's suppost to be a replacement for the other xorg includes
Oct 24 13:18:18 <JaMa> mrmoku: do you have new libx11-1.3.2?
Oct 24 13:18:23 <JaMa> mrmoku: from last patch
Oct 24 13:18:43 <Heinervdm> playya_: so we should do the same as there
Oct 24 13:18:47 <JaMa> mrmoku: I forgot the shr/merge prefix but this one is for merge too http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/372/
Oct 24 13:19:16 <mrmoku> libx11-1_1.3.1-r3
Oct 24 13:19:18 <mrmoku> yup
Oct 24 13:19:20 <mrmoku> no
Oct 24 13:19:29 <playya_> but it is set to 1.1.* somewhere else :(
Oct 24 13:19:42 <mrmoku> JaMa: did not apply though
Oct 24 13:19:57 <Heinervdm> playya_: i corrected the order of include files in shr.conf
Oct 24 13:20:03 <playya_> ok
Oct 24 13:20:13 <mrmoku> JaMa: wait
Oct 24 13:20:14 <Heinervdm> playya_: do you have any inlcude in your local.conf?
Oct 24 13:20:23 <JaMa> mrmoku: because of checksums.ini?
Oct 24 13:20:37 <mrmoku> JaMa: no, because I'm stupid
Oct 24 13:20:37 <playya_> Heinervdm, nope
Oct 24 13:20:51 <Heinervdm> playya_: and latest shr/merge?
Oct 24 13:20:58 <mrmoku> JaMa: tried to apply an older x update patch :P
Oct 24 13:21:06 <mrmoku> applied and pushed now
Oct 24 13:21:08 <playya_> from yesterday around 9 pm
Oct 24 13:21:18 <Heinervdm> playya_: that's too old ;)
Oct 24 13:21:37 <JaMa> playya_: I already said which patch you're missing..
Oct 24 13:21:44 <JaMa> ~logs
Oct 24 13:21:45 <apt> All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged.
Oct 24 13:23:05 <JaMa> 21:20.12 JaMa playya: maybe you had older version before this patch http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/364/
Oct 24 13:23:09 <playya_> JaMa, my laptop is always running and i didn't saw your HL
Oct 24 13:23:43 <Q-Master> TAsn: Hi! What did you want about opimd?
Oct 24 13:24:06 <JaMa> time to reflash
Oct 24 13:24:52 <mrmoku> JaMa: ohh :)
Oct 24 13:25:39 <JaMa> oh, forgot to generate tar.gz images :)
Oct 24 13:27:37 <JaMa> strange from minimal.conf we have IMAGE_FSTYPES ?= "tar.gz jffs2"
Oct 24 13:30:17 <playya_> what's in you conf/local.conf?
Oct 24 13:30:27 <playya_> s/you/your/
Oct 24 13:30:27 <apt> playya_ meant: what's in your conf/local.conf?
Oct 24 13:30:53 <JaMa> ah its replaced in machinge config..
Oct 24 13:33:05 <TAsn> Q-Master, nothing I can recall.
Oct 24 13:33:39 <TAsn> ciao again.
Oct 24 13:34:44 <JaMa> mrmoku: what about moving include conf/distro/include/shr-${MACHINE}.conf
Oct 24 13:34:51 <JaMa> mrmoku: directly to shr.conf?
Oct 24 13:34:56 <JaMa> from shr-autorev :)
Oct 24 13:35:11 <mrmoku> JaMa: yup we should do that now :)
Oct 24 13:38:49 <JaMa> mrmoku: thats why IMAGE_FSTYPE didn't work :)
Oct 24 13:39:00 <JaMa> machine += jffs and ubi
Oct 24 13:39:18 <JaMa> and then minimal.conf weak assignment ?= with tar.gz..
Oct 24 13:39:34 <JaMa> I moved tar.gz to machine config and will move that include too
Oct 24 13:41:29 <JaMa> mrmoku: sent
Oct 24 13:50:31 <mrmoku> JaMa: thanks, applied
Oct 24 13:59:46 <Sup3rkiddo> i get this when I try to build libfsoresource.. http://dpaste.com/111381/ anyone know whatsup?
Oct 24 14:05:52 <bumbl> mrmoku: how can i try out efl2 frontend?
Oct 24 14:07:11 <Heinervdm> bumbl: phoneui replaces efl2
Oct 24 14:09:21 <bumbl> or the phoneui
Oct 24 14:09:39 <bumbl> at least some efl and opimd based stuff
Oct 24 14:20:36 <mrmoku> bumbl: you would have to switch to tests/mrmoku/unstable feed
Oct 24 14:20:58 <mrmoku> and then remove -force-depends ophonekitd libframeworkd-phonegui0 ... (and some others)
Oct 24 14:21:08 <mrmoku> and install phoneuid phonefsod libphone-ui libphone-ui-shr
Oct 24 14:21:11 <mrmoku> and phoneui-apps
Oct 24 14:22:18 <JaMa> chroot ended with Illegal instruction from /bin/sh :/
Oct 24 14:22:26 <JaMa> rebooting now...
Oct 24 14:22:32 <JaMa> lets see if its better
Oct 24 14:32:33 <playya_> Sup3rkiddo, old vala?
Oct 24 14:40:26 <mrmoku> JaMa: better?
Oct 24 14:46:42 <JaMa> not really
Oct 24 14:47:13 <JaMa> with 2.6.31 it hangs few lines after remountig rootfs rw
Oct 24 14:47:55 <soltys> mrmoku: why you do not build new image ?
Oct 24 14:48:24 <JaMa> hmm and 2.6.26-KMS panic before fb init :/
Oct 24 14:48:30 <mrmoku> soltys: because I want it to build from shr/merge... and I'm building and rebuilding and rebuilding...
Oct 24 14:48:46 <mrmoku> soltys: Running task 893 of 7070
Oct 24 14:48:50 <soltys> mhm ;)
Oct 24 14:49:03 <soltys> I can't wait it ;)
Oct 24 14:49:12 <JaMa> I can't boot it :)
Oct 24 14:49:24 <soltys> ;)
Oct 24 14:53:12 <JesusMcCloud> in which damn config file do i set the branch form shr/import to shr/merge?
Oct 24 14:55:29 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: in the Makefile
Oct 24 14:55:59 <JesusMcCloud> ahhhh that explains, why i didn't find anything
Oct 24 14:56:31 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: then rm -rf shr-unstable
Oct 24 14:56:38 <playya_> expecting result of task-shr-feed around 12 pm:  Running task 2084 of 9884
Oct 24 14:57:18 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku: lol, and wait ages again
Oct 24 14:57:40 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: to switch from shr/import to shr/merge you have to :|
Oct 24 14:58:11 <JesusMcCloud> that should probabaly on the wiki page (or did i just not find it?)
Oct 24 14:59:21 * JaMa hopes that othere images will be more bootable than his..
Oct 24 14:59:53 <JaMa> at least shr/merge before glibc->eglibc and gcc-4.4.2 booted ok..
Oct 24 15:00:44 <playya_> that are bad news :(
Oct 24 15:03:21 <bumbl> mrmoku: ok alternative would be a new image?
Oct 24 15:03:42 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku: and instead of shr-autoref and shr-unstalbe aotoref i should just use shr.conf in my local.conf?
Oct 24 15:03:53 <bumbl> (cleaned up my contacts today on the pc - 2/3 useless heritage)
Oct 24 15:04:13 <JaMa> JesusMcCloud: no include in local.conf.. just DISTRO="shr"
Oct 24 15:04:14 <bumbl> -> opimd where art thou
Oct 24 15:04:23 <bumbl> ;)
Oct 24 15:05:18 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku: so delete 'require conf/.../shr-autoref.inc?
Oct 24 15:05:25 <mrmoku> bumbl: yeah, alternative would be to wait for a new image
Oct 24 15:06:01 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: delete all requires, yes
Oct 24 15:06:08 <bumbl> which would take some time ;(
Oct 24 15:07:05 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku: ok so basically in my auto.conf and in my local.conf i set disrto to SHR
Oct 24 15:15:21 <Sharwin_F-> is woosh inside OE/shr repos?
Oct 24 15:15:57 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, afaik i only have git access to shr themes. i'd need more if you want me to push the changes i made to phoneui edj files
Oct 24 15:16:25 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku: or i could just email them to you
Oct 24 15:21:54 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: what do you prefer?
Oct 24 15:22:18 <mrmoku> if you want I can give you access to libphone-ui-shr
Oct 24 15:22:46 <JesusMcCloud> i think it woudl be handler if you grant me git access, you still have my mail with the key?!
Oct 24 15:23:15 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: just have to add you to libphone-ui-shr
Oct 24 15:23:19 <mrmoku> key is already there
Oct 24 15:23:22 <mrmoku> moment
Oct 24 15:24:34 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: do you have libphone-ui-shr already cloned?
Oct 24 15:24:43 <JesusMcCloud> nope
Oct 24 15:25:18 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: then git clone git+ssh://git@git.shr-project.org/libphone-ui-shr.git
Oct 24 15:25:55 <JesusMcCloud> thx, will commit
Oct 24 15:27:52 * Arhuaco wakes up
Oct 24 15:28:48 <JesusMcCloud> (running task 225 of 7070)
Oct 24 15:28:59 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, great ;) I'm anxious to see what you have to offer. 
Oct 24 15:29:34 <JesusMcCloud> TAsnm not much, just faster scrolling 
Oct 24 15:31:08 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, that's MUCH. ;)
Oct 24 15:31:11 <TAsn> with X11?
Oct 24 15:32:14 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, jup a little faster, i mean it is still choppy as hell, but it scrolls a tittle faster
Oct 24 15:32:25 <TAsn> yeah, got that, cool ;)
Oct 24 15:32:51 <TAsn> btw, mrmoku, I started thinking about maybe having iphone like "scrolling" on desktop, instead of what we have.
Oct 24 15:33:17 <JesusMcCloud> you can try it in about 5 minutes (i am scp it to my moko to test if i dodnt break it by copypastign from ym current edcs)
Oct 24 15:33:20 <TAsn> it's faster to just jump from screen to screen instead of doing precision scrolling 
Oct 24 15:34:14 <mrmoku> TAsn: no idea about iphones... never had one in my hands
Oct 24 15:34:15 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i think that will require a little rewrite of illuem launcher, or atleast an embryo script
Oct 24 15:34:19 <mrmoku> (and I'm proud ;)
Oct 24 15:34:36 * JesusMcCloud once had a rooted iphone in his hands
Oct 24 15:34:54 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, of course.
Oct 24 15:35:17 <TAsn> mrmoku, well, I think we have something to learn from everything (they also have some things to learn from us)
Oct 24 15:35:48 <TAsn> as DocScrutinizer said a couple of days ago (about KMail actually), you can even learn from everything, even from bad things.
Oct 24 15:36:10 <TAsn> We can see what they did wrong and do right, or see what they did right and do the same.
Oct 24 15:36:11 <mrmoku> TAsn: sure
Oct 24 15:36:27 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, or just write a very simple app efl +elementary: efl so you can set the windows type to desktop (ELM_WIN_DESKTOP is theoretically there but didnt get it to work when tryin with python) and elementary pager which hosts the desktop icons
Oct 24 15:36:29 <mrmoku> just wanted to say that I have _no_ idea about iphone desktop scrolling
Oct 24 15:36:49 <mrmoku> so just telling me to do something like iphone want help me :)
Oct 24 15:36:52 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, you just want to switch the launcher?
Oct 24 15:36:54 <mrmoku> s/want/won't/
Oct 24 15:36:55 <apt> mrmoku meant: so just telling me to do something like iphone won't help me :)
Oct 24 15:37:07 <TAsn> mrmoku, I replied to: <mrmoku> (and I'm proud ;)
Oct 24 15:37:37 <mrmoku> :)
Oct 24 15:38:26 <TAsn> luckily (?) iphone is a big hype here, so everyone has it, so I compare and learn almost from everyone :|
Oct 24 15:38:39 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn switch the launcher? you mean multiple desktop pager style? 
Oct 24 15:39:21 <bumbl> well iphone has two important things - no glamo and a polished consistent ui
Oct 24 15:39:34 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, indeed.
Oct 24 15:39:44 <TAsn> but only for the desktop
Oct 24 15:40:03 <TAsn> I don't want it to control windows.
Oct 24 15:40:39 <dos1> just teach illume to respect ELM_WIN_DESKTOP
Oct 24 15:40:49 <dos1> we don't need more :P
Oct 24 15:40:50 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i am not sure that is so easily doable, since you have to tell e which .desktop file to display on which desktop
Oct 24 15:41:17 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, we'll have to start keeing order.
Oct 24 15:41:18 <TAsn> dos1, exactly.
Oct 24 15:41:25 <TAsn> dos1, but I bet
Oct 24 15:41:33 <TAsn> the illume launcher already "took" that spot
Oct 24 15:41:39 <TAsn> and that's why you can't ask for it.
Oct 24 15:41:44 <JesusMcCloud> dos1, ever got a program working with elm_win_desktop? (i tried python directly typed it into python shell and i get nothign but errors
Oct 24 15:41:57 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, you can aks for it
Oct 24 15:42:06 <dos1> JesusMcCloud: that's illume who doesn't allow windows to being desktop :P
Oct 24 15:42:25 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, but you won't get it.
Oct 24 15:42:27 <dos1> TAsn: on my PC having few different "desktop" windows works :P
Oct 24 15:42:43 <TAsn> dos1, hm.. ok.
Oct 24 15:42:55 <JesusMcCloud> how come openmoko-today is allowed to exist as desktop type window and replaces illume launcher?
Oct 24 15:42:58 <JesusMcCloud> (i know it is gtk)
Oct 24 15:42:59 <dos1> displayed is only the newer one
Oct 24 15:43:21 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, openmoko-today replaces it well?
Oct 24 15:43:22 <rhkfin> Trying to upgrade, can't satisfy this:          *  libfso-glib0 (>= 0.2.1+gitr47+7608c8d98bb65bb5beca6621eb86920b71df1bc9) *
Oct 24 15:43:24 <dos1> JesusMcCloud: does it replace?
Oct 24 15:43:28 <JesusMcCloud> replaces it perfectly
Oct 24 15:43:29 <TAsn> rhkfin, we know
Oct 24 15:43:30 <dos1> JesusMcCloud: when i checked it last time it didn't
Oct 24 15:43:30 <TAsn> unstable
Oct 24 15:43:32 <TAsn> old
Oct 24 15:43:36 <TAsn> rhkfin, don't worry :)
Oct 24 15:43:42 <dos1> JesusMcCloud: it was displayed just like normal window...
Oct 24 15:43:50 <TAsn> sweet. (if it does)
Oct 24 15:43:54 <dos1> JesusMcCloud: then we don't have any problem :)
Oct 24 15:43:57 <rhkfin> TAsn: ok - it's been there for a while :) So what's the status of testing, is there one, is one being prepared... ?
Oct 24 15:43:58 <JesusMcCloud> dos1: yesterday night it wasn't
Oct 24 15:44:00 <TAsn> though iirc it only replaced it.
Oct 24 15:44:10 <TAsn> rhkfin, after we'll fix a Xorg issue
Oct 24 15:44:14 <TAsn> we'll have a testing image
Oct 24 15:44:16 <TAsn> (hopefully)
Oct 24 15:44:33 <JesusMcCloud> dos1, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/da235270ff835492727d455cc6e71703.png <-screenshot i made last night
Oct 24 15:44:48 <TAsn> oh
Oct 24 15:44:52 <TAsn> I thought you mean shr
Oct 24 15:44:56 <TAsn> shr-today.
Oct 24 15:44:57 <rhkfin> TAsn: what's 'the Xorg issue'?
Oct 24 15:45:02 <TAsn> but sweet
Oct 24 15:45:06 <TAsn> rhkfin, long resume time.
Oct 24 15:45:15 <rhkfin> (don't waste too much time explaining this to me :)
Oct 24 15:45:16 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, we should probably just ask in #e/raster
Oct 24 15:45:20 <dos1> looks ok :)
Oct 24 15:45:20 <JesusMcCloud> dos1, but still i cannot get elm-win-desktop to work
Oct 24 15:45:25 <rhkfin> long.. hmm.. ok.
Oct 24 15:45:26 <TAsn> rhkfin, it takes a long time to resume. ;)
Oct 24 15:45:32 <TAsn> ~6 seconds.
Oct 24 15:45:33 <rhkfin> TAsn: longer than unstable?
Oct 24 15:45:35 <rhkfin> ouch!
Oct 24 15:45:36 <TAsn> which is unbearable
Oct 24 15:45:39 <rhkfin> yes
Oct 24 15:45:52 <dos1> JesusMcCloud: that issue is on low priority, as you can still use xlib directly to set your window as desktop
Oct 24 15:45:54 <dos1> ;)
Oct 24 15:46:17 <TAsn> dos1, oh, that's cool.
Oct 24 15:46:24 <TAsn> so using C we can write a new laucnher?
Oct 24 15:46:27 <TAsn> launcher*
Oct 24 15:46:31 <JesusMcCloud> dos1, so just a elm window with pager
Oct 24 15:46:34 <dos1> (i suppose)
Oct 24 15:47:03 <dos1> TAsn: i think so, yup
Oct 24 15:47:40 <JesusMcCloud> dos1, TAsn, first things first: need to test if my edc still work and commit, brbr
Oct 24 15:47:47 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, ciao.
Oct 24 15:47:48 <TAsn> ;{
Oct 24 15:48:05 <TAsn> hm.. I'll try to remember to open a ticket about it soon.
Oct 24 15:48:23 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, just off for 5 mins to commit
Oct 24 15:48:34 <rhkfin> Anyone know anything about openbmap-locator?
Oct 24 15:50:24 <dos1> rhkfin: it's written in vala and uses sqlite
Oct 24 15:50:31 <dos1> rhkfin: that's what i know ;)
Oct 24 15:50:56 <rhkfin> dos1: how do I use it, what's it supposed to do..
Oct 24 15:51:05 <rhkfin> well yes, how do I use it..
Oct 24 15:54:43 <dos1> i just discovered new tool to deanonimize someone
Oct 24 15:55:01 <dos1> give me your e-mail, and i'll look at your youtube profile
Oct 24 15:55:02 <dos1> :D
Oct 24 15:55:09 <soltys> ;]
Oct 24 15:55:20 <soltys> if your target have one ;)
Oct 24 15:55:50 <JesusMcCloud> re
Oct 24 15:56:31 <CIA-26> SHR: 03jesus 07libphone-ui-shr * ra474dd2c7ec6 10/data/ (contactlist.edc messagelist.edc): faster scrolling for messages and contacts
Oct 24 15:56:40 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, wanna try libphoneui-apps? (i cant atm, since bitbake is running)
Oct 24 15:57:05 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, can't now. ;|
Oct 24 15:57:06 <TAsn> sorry.
Oct 24 15:57:11 <TAsn> gtg to play poker :|
Oct 24 15:57:18 <JesusMcCloud> hf
Oct 24 15:57:54 <TAsn> thanks.
Oct 24 15:58:10 <mrmoku> uhhh... stupid me
Oct 24 15:59:40 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: pulled and will try it now
Oct 24 15:59:58 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, tell me if i screwed up
Oct 24 16:00:03 <mrmoku> yup
Oct 24 16:00:10 * JesusMcCloud doesnt trust his computer, much less git
Oct 24 16:01:20 <mrmoku> JaMa, Heinervdm: any idea about the util-linux-ng / e2fsprogs-libs problems I have?
Oct 24 16:01:26 <mrmoku> somehow they depend on each other...
Oct 24 16:01:38 <mrmoku> so, building from scratch fails on both
Oct 24 16:01:44 <mrmoku> and cleaning / rebuilding works
Oct 24 16:01:48 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: with my current build i had no such problems anymore
Oct 24 16:01:56 <mrmoku> hmm
Oct 24 16:02:41 <mrmoku> had it on my laptop and on the buildhost too
Oct 24 16:03:17 <playya_> i had this problems, too
Oct 24 16:09:38 <TAsn> mrmoku, btw, came back for a sec, just to tell you, the active/incoming/outgoing call windows look awesome :)
Oct 24 16:09:46 <mrmoku> :)
Oct 24 16:09:58 <mrmoku> TAsn: I'm rebooting now... hopefully finally fixed sim auth
Oct 24 16:10:04 <TAsn> mrmoku, hehe :)
Oct 24 16:10:14 <TAsn> what was the second thing we talked about?
Oct 24 16:10:20 <TAsn> ohhh CreateContact segs
Oct 24 16:10:22 <mrmoku> segfault for new contacts
Oct 24 16:10:24 <mrmoku> :)
Oct 24 16:10:25 <TAsn> fixed that?
Oct 24 16:10:28 <mrmoku> not yet
Oct 24 16:10:30 <mrmoku> next on the list
Oct 24 16:10:33 <TAsn> hehe.
Oct 24 16:10:40 <TAsn> My list is sooo long. :|
Oct 24 16:10:48 <TAsn> And I haven't even started the first.
Oct 24 16:10:50 <mrmoku> TAsn: just look at the top of the list
Oct 24 16:10:50 <TAsn> :|
Oct 24 16:10:53 <mrmoku> ignore the rest
Oct 24 16:10:57 <mrmoku> until it is empty ;)
Oct 24 16:10:58 <TAsn> hehe yeah.
Oct 24 16:11:01 <TAsn> :)
Oct 24 16:11:11 <TAsn> just `head TODO`
Oct 24 16:11:23 <mrmoku> yup :)
Oct 24 16:12:53 <spaettzAway> head -n 1 TODO
Oct 24 16:15:19 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: looks good :)
Oct 24 16:15:41 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoko, is it faster aswell? 
Oct 24 16:16:00 <playya_> libefso fails to configure
Oct 24 16:16:11 <playya_> isn't it obsolete?
Oct 24 16:16:44 <playya_> s/configure/compile/
Oct 24 16:16:59 <Heinervdm> playya_: i think we should concentrate on image, feed comes later
Oct 24 16:16:59 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: difficult to say... I would say yes
Oct 24 16:17:03 <mrmoku> for messages I can't test
Oct 24 16:17:12 <mrmoku> as on the sim I have in right now there is just one
Oct 24 16:17:25 <mrmoku> will reboot with my sim after finishing my sim auth tets
Oct 24 16:17:26 <mrmoku> +s
Oct 24 16:17:32 <TAsn> mrmoku, please sync and I'll start an install when I'm back, finished the shower, ciao ;)
Oct 24 16:18:02 <TAsn> mrmoku, your wife deleted all the messages? she doesn't want you to spy on her? :)
Oct 24 16:18:49 <TAsn> ciao.
Oct 24 16:19:46 <JesusMcCloud> (Running task 2303 of 7070 )
Oct 24 16:24:07 <JesusMcCloud> the python elementary tests in e svn are broken, can anyone point me to a good starting point for python-elementary?
Oct 24 16:25:45 <mrmoku> TAsn: no... the phone saves them in mem not sim :P
Oct 24 16:25:45 <spaetz> JesusMcCloud, shr-settings?
Oct 24 16:26:29 <JesusMcCloud> spaetz, well ecxept that the hoversel parts of it are broken...
Oct 24 16:26:58 <JesusMcCloud> but better than nothing
Oct 24 16:27:11 <spaetz> afaik, they were broken everywhere...
Oct 24 16:27:21 <JesusMcCloud> spaetz, partly
Oct 24 16:27:52 <spaetz> haven't really followed it
Oct 24 16:27:52 <JesusMcCloud> elm theme selector works, profle and opimd domain settings selsctor doesn
Oct 24 16:28:03 <spaetz> weird
Oct 24 16:35:06 <CIA-26> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r7a70ba367acf 10/src/ (phoneui-utility.c phoneui-utility.h): phone-utility: let the backend decide what to do in the sim auth process
Oct 24 16:37:14 <CIA-26> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r26a9e7fed30f 10/ (data/sim-auth.edc src/view/sim-auth-input-view.c): sim-auth: adjust to new phoneui way to do sim auth and clean up
Oct 24 17:48:18 <truvar> hi
Oct 24 17:50:34 <truvar> could smb explain me how to repair a parsing error for shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/fakeroot/fakeroot-native_1.9.6.bb?
Oct 24 18:23:47 <larsc> Arhuaco: hi
Oct 24 18:24:55 <Arhuaco> Hello larsc! Finally. I just uploaded a kernel to debug the issue.
Oct 24 18:30:30 <larsc> do you have an idea, what might be the problem?
Oct 24 18:31:56 <Arhuaco> larsc, I think it might be something with s3c-adc. I'll check it first, I just reverted the last patch (fix suspend-resume) and I'll also check the values returned by the ADC.
Oct 24 18:32:21 <larsc> ok
Oct 24 18:32:24 <larsc> thanks :)
Oct 24 18:35:08 <Arhuaco> larsc, I enabled debug and the output values don't make sense : http://pastebin.ca/1641823 Thus I'll check s3c-adc first.
Oct 24 18:38:16 <Arhuaco> larsc. Yes, I am getting wrong values from the s3c-adc.
Oct 24 18:38:41 <larsc> ok
Oct 24 19:08:30 <Arhuaco> larsc, fixed. A few lines were missing.
Oct 24 19:09:06 <Arhuaco> larsc, in the adc.c file. I compared with andy-tracking and found about them. I'll send the patch.
Oct 24 19:11:20 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: :D
Oct 24 19:12:33 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser, yes. Nice to see it working.
Oct 24 19:23:17 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: list_del(&next->pend); ?
Oct 24 19:26:12 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser, no. I just sent the patch via email. Are we missing that also?
Oct 24 19:26:18 * Arhuaco reads...
Oct 24 19:26:53 <larsc> Arhuaco: thanks :)
Oct 24 19:27:32 <Arhuaco> larsc, je je. Very nice to see that you made this kernel work :-)
Oct 24 19:28:31 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: oh, the version i see in andy-tracking doesn't have those lines :-o
Oct 24 19:29:04 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: sorry, it has
Oct 24 19:30:24 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser : Good. When I was making upstream work I did not need these lines AFAICR. Perhaps they were already there. I don't remember.
Oct 24 19:30:49 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: i just compared to the pre-s3c-adc version :)
Oct 24 19:30:58 <PaulFertser> And it didn't have that necessary fix :)
Oct 24 19:32:08 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser, Ah, I see.  I wonder how this will look like once we get the s3c24xx driver upstream.
Oct 24 19:35:13 <Arhuaco> There are two versions of the driver around posted for review.
Oct 24 19:35:30 <mwester> a brutal process...
Oct 24 19:35:47 <alexxy> mrmoku|away: TAsn: can you modify deafult shr frameworkd config to use SQlite-Messages?
Oct 24 19:35:55 <TAsn> alexxy, yes.
Oct 24 19:36:05 <TAsn> I already talked to mrmoku about that.
Oct 24 19:36:12 <TAsn> mrmoku, btw, is it safe to upgrade?
Oct 24 19:36:15 <mrmoku> we need the trigger patch first
Oct 24 19:36:17 <mrmoku> TAsn: no
Oct 24 19:36:19 <mrmoku> nothing to update
Oct 24 19:36:22 <TAsn> (phone-ui-shr)
Oct 24 19:36:26 <TAsn> mrmoku, the edj...
Oct 24 19:36:31 <mrmoku> does not work what I did
Oct 24 19:36:36 <mrmoku> so I did not build it
Oct 24 19:36:40 <TAsn> okie.
Oct 24 19:36:52 <mrmoku> (and we have visitors from italy... so I slowed down a bit)
Oct 24 19:37:01 <mrmoku> in a forced way :P
Oct 24 19:37:04 <TAsn> hm.. mrmoku what's preventing us from starting to use the trigger patch+
Oct 24 19:37:05 <TAsn> ?
Oct 24 19:37:39 <mrmoku> TAsn: nothing... we have to do it all it once though... switch default to phone-ui, add the patch and change the config
Oct 24 19:37:41 <TAsn> mickey|sports, why is the fso_triggers.py patch for oevents to notifiy about messages (when opimd is running) isn't applied yet?
Oct 24 19:37:54 <TAsn> mrmoku, well, the next build will use it anyway.
Oct 24 19:37:57 <TAsn> (I assume)
Oct 24 19:38:04 <TAsn> so there's no reason why not do it now.
Oct 24 19:38:07 <TAsn> don't you thinkL
Oct 24 19:38:07 <TAsn> ?
Oct 24 19:38:20 <mrmoku> 2616 of 7070
Oct 24 19:38:23 <mrmoku> :)
Oct 24 19:38:39 <mrmoku> TAsn: shr/merge I will switch yes
Oct 24 19:38:53 <TAsn> mrmoku, bah, why not switch in shr/import?
Oct 24 19:40:46 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: yay, i confirm TS works great now :)
Oct 24 19:41:26 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser, nice :-)
Oct 24 19:42:56 <mrmoku> TAsn: because I want the next image to be built with shr/merge
Oct 24 19:44:26 <max_posedon> mrmoku, branch merged?)
Oct 24 19:44:28 <dos1> TAsn: i already told you
Oct 24 19:44:39 <dos1> TAsn: this patch makes notification not-working when opimd is disabled
Oct 24 19:44:39 <TAsn> mrmoku, good enough reason ;)
Oct 24 19:44:43 <TAsn> dos1, I know.
Oct 24 19:44:50 <TAsn> and I already told you, still, why not?
Oct 24 19:44:58 <TAsn> opimd should be ON.
Oct 24 19:45:05 <TAsn> or at least this should be configurable
Oct 24 19:45:06 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: have you tried tapping?
Oct 24 19:45:13 <TAsn> but leaving it as it is
Oct 24 19:45:16 <dos1> TAsn: milestone6 isn't reached yet
Oct 24 19:45:21 <TAsn> that it doesn't work in the default configuration
Oct 24 19:45:25 <TAsn> that's plain annoying/dumb
Oct 24 19:45:29 <TAsn> dos1, so?
Oct 24 19:45:34 <dos1> TAsn: and default configuration is with opimd disabled AFAIK
Oct 24 19:45:59 <dos1> for sure it was in ms5.5, dunno if it changed
Oct 24 19:46:06 <dos1> but i don't think so :P
Oct 24 19:47:03 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser. Yes. It seems to work here. Are you having issues?
Oct 24 19:47:21 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: probably, let me reboot
Oct 24 19:47:27 <dos1> and adding that patch to frameworkd recipe is oneliner...
Oct 24 19:48:30 <TAsn> mrmoku, please add that patch.
Oct 24 19:48:43 <TAsn> dos1, :|
Oct 24 19:49:12 <dos1> mrmoku: sync shr/merge with shr/import
Oct 24 19:49:24 <dos1> things like shr-splash-theme-logo aren't in merge ;x
Oct 24 19:49:45 <PaulFertser> Arhuaco: no, i'm not having issues :D
Oct 24 19:50:10 <Arhuaco> PaulFertser. Good. Good.
Oct 24 19:51:30 <mrmoku> dos1: yes, have to take a look at syncing those...
Oct 24 20:00:56 <dos1> mrmoku: i'll send patch for adding opimd patch in few seconds :P
Oct 24 20:01:08 <mrmoku> dos1: good :)
Oct 24 20:01:18 <dos1> when git will finish compressing
Oct 24 20:01:34 <mrmoku> hehe... btw. we're packing our repos daily now :P
Oct 24 20:01:57 <TAsn> dos1, yay, thanks :)
Oct 24 20:03:55 <dos1> sent... but didn't test it :P
Oct 24 20:06:04 * [Rui] waves.
Oct 24 20:06:05 <mrmoku> dos1: are you sure about that part:
Oct 24 20:06:06 <mrmoku> +#DEPENDS = "python-cython-native python-pyrex-native"
Oct 24 20:06:22 <dos1> mrmoku: yup
Oct 24 20:06:27 <mrmoku> good )
Oct 24 20:06:31 <dos1> mrmoku: a) it already was in shr/import
Oct 24 20:06:43 <mrmoku> not a reason ;)
Oct 24 20:06:58 <dos1> mrmoku: b) even setup.py in framework.git has it commented
Oct 24 20:07:06 <mrmoku> that is a reason :)
Oct 24 20:07:13 <dos1> it was used to compile some wifi module, but it was abbandoned :P
Oct 24 20:07:26 <dos1> and python-wifi is now used
Oct 24 20:09:26 <mrmoku> ok
Oct 24 20:09:30 <mrmoku> applied and pushed
Oct 24 20:09:33 <mrmoku> dos1: thanks
Oct 24 20:10:03 <larsc> PaulFertser, Arhuaco: I just pushed om-gta01 and om-gta02 with touchscreen support
Oct 24 20:10:17 <md2k7> i'm getting loads of cannot concatenate 'str' and 'EnumValue' objects
Oct 24 20:10:18 <mrmoku> :D
Oct 24 20:10:50 <mrmoku> md2k7: probably some SRCREV is missing
Oct 24 20:10:59 <md2k7> mrmoku: meaning?
Oct 24 20:11:02 <mrmoku> md2k7: for a recipe which has SRCPV in it
Oct 24 20:11:16 <md2k7> mrmoku: what do i do about it?
Oct 24 20:11:27 <mrmoku> md2k7: for all recipes with SRCPV in it you have to either specify a revision or set it to AUTOREV
Oct 24 20:11:43 <md2k7> mrmoku: how to do that?
Oct 24 20:11:55 <md2k7> mrmoku: or where to find how to do that :P
Oct 24 20:12:41 <PaulFertser> larsc: cool. btw, platform battery is working as supposed but somehow uevent is "empty".
Oct 24 20:13:50 <TAsn> mrmoku, any eta for shr/merge?
Oct 24 20:14:34 <TAsn> jmc|half-away, this is confusing! JesusMC|away would make you easier to locate when you are away ;)
Oct 24 20:15:51 <jmc|half-away> TAsn, but i am half away, so now i am difficult to locate, and if someone REALLY needs something i the WILL find me
Oct 24 20:16:13 <TAsn> bah.
Oct 24 20:16:25 <spaetz> heh
Oct 24 20:16:40 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, better now? :-P
Oct 24 20:16:41 <md2k7> mrmoku: SRCREV = "${@bb.fetch.get_srcrev(d)}"
Oct 24 20:16:49 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, way better.
Oct 24 20:16:51 <md2k7> mrmoku: to be placed in bitbake.conf, is that what i'm looking for?
Oct 24 20:17:28 <JesusMcCloud> (Running task 7000 of 7070)
Oct 24 20:18:04 <mwester> about time for a fatal error, then. :D
Oct 24 20:18:16 <mrmoku> :)
Oct 24 20:18:33 <mrmoku> md2k7: what are you trying to build?
Oct 24 20:18:42 <JesusMcCloud> mwester, mrmoku; that is actually what si bugging me, no errors since libxaw waf fixed
Oct 24 20:18:46 <md2k7> mrmoku: shr
Oct 24 20:19:24 <md2k7> mrmoku: just wget'ed the SHR Makefile, and after 'make setup', just cd shr-testing and 'make image'
Oct 24 20:21:05 <JesusMcCloud> there won't be anny fatal errors: do_rootfs is running
Oct 24 20:21:33 <mrmoku> md2k7: shr-testing?
Oct 24 20:21:34 <mrmoku> ouch
Oct 24 20:21:46 <mrmoku> md2k7: don't do that... does not work
Oct 24 20:21:51 <md2k7> mrmoku: but shr-unstable wasn't doing any better I guess
Oct 24 20:22:01 <md2k7> mrmoku: but i will try again
Oct 24 20:22:03 <mrmoku> md2k7: shr-unstable should
Oct 24 20:22:25 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: hehe... don't be that sure
Oct 24 20:22:37 <mrmoku> do_rootfs is the most often failing one ;)
Oct 24 20:22:37 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku: why?
Oct 24 20:22:49 <mrmoku> some package not built that is needed
Oct 24 20:22:53 <mrmoku> like fso-abyss :)
Oct 24 20:22:54 <md2k7> mrmoku: fun that the testing doesn't work, but the unstable does :-)
Oct 24 20:23:06 <md2k7> mrmoku: but I need to verify that, too, btw
Oct 24 20:23:25 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, you were right, will bitbake fso-abyss
Oct 24 20:24:24 <md2k7> mrmoku: in unstable, I'm already getting the same stuff
Oct 24 20:24:30 <md2k7> cannot concatenate 'str' and 'EnumValue' objects
Oct 24 20:24:39 <md2k7> but it didn't exit yet
Oct 24 20:26:30 <JesusMcCloud> md2k7: afair remove all requieries from local.conf ad add DISRTO= "shr"
Oct 24 20:28:31 <alexxy> mrmoku: any updates for shr-unstable?
Oct 24 20:31:42 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, any idea why fso abyss doesnt get built when trying to 'make image'
Oct 24 20:37:24 <md2k7> JesusMcCloud: still the same problem :-(
Oct 24 20:38:43 <JesusMcCloud> md2k7: i dont want to read back so what are you trying to do exactly?
Oct 24 20:39:02 <md2k7> build a 'fresh shiny' shr-unstable
Oct 24 20:39:09 <md2k7> with SHR Makefile
Oct 24 20:41:06 <JesusMcCloud> md2k7: http://pastebin.com/d47968fa5 <-my local.conf
Oct 24 20:41:55 * JesusMcCloud just build shr-unstable -> woohoo!!!
Oct 24 20:42:17 <md2k7> JesusMcCloud: thx, will try
Oct 24 21:18:48 <Weiss> JaMa: port DRM to 2.6.31 you mean?
Oct 24 21:22:28 <Arhuaco> larsc, nice. I'll build here later.
Oct 24 21:25:14 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, by the way i buitl my image using psyco. i cant say for sure, but seemed to be faster than plain python interpreter
Oct 24 21:48:14 <Weiss> JaMa: if you mean 2.6.31, I have most of it done.. possibly next week sometime (I'm away at my graduation ceremony this weekend)
Oct 24 22:14:01 <alexxy> mrmoku: TAsn : why shr tryes to migrate to eglibc?
Oct 24 22:14:32 <TAsn> alexxy, Actually there were no official talks about it, so I don't know why mrmoku went underground and did it .:)
Oct 24 22:14:50 <TAsn> but I trust the bloke, so I don't mind he did it. :)
Oct 24 22:15:30 <alexxy> omg
Oct 24 22:15:38 <alexxy> not sure that its good idea
Oct 24 22:15:50 <mrmoku> alexxy: because it is better maintained in OE
Oct 24 22:16:57 <alexxy> hmmm
Oct 24 22:17:14 <alexxy> that doesnt mean that eglibc is better then glibc
Oct 24 22:18:09 <TAsn> alexxy, first of all
Oct 24 22:18:12 <mrmoku> no, not necessarily
Oct 24 22:18:18 <TAsn> I don't mind if you open a discussion about it.
Oct 24 22:18:30 <TAsn> and we'll decide in an ordered fashion
Oct 24 22:18:50 <TAsn> state your pros and cons in an email and send it to shr-devel
Oct 24 22:18:54 <TAsn> we'll discuss it there.
Oct 24 22:18:58 <mrmoku> yup
Oct 24 22:19:00 <TAsn> mrmoku, be ready with an answer ;]
Oct 24 22:19:06 <TAsn> and make it a good one!
Oct 24 22:19:09 <mrmoku> nah
Oct 24 22:19:29 <TAsn> and no, the fact that glibc's maintainer is a dick (from what I have seen on digg) is not a pro.
Oct 24 22:19:42 <mrmoku> hehe
Oct 24 22:20:07 <alexxy> well
Oct 24 22:20:29 <alexxy> as i remember eglibc is only a distribution of glibc + additional patches
Oct 24 22:20:51 <TAsn> alexxy, configuration patches iirc
Oct 24 22:20:58 <TAsn> i.e many ifdefs
Oct 24 22:21:02 <alexxy> there was some discussion in gentoo about adding eglibc support some times ago
Oct 24 22:21:08 <TAsn> and?
Oct 24 22:21:14 <alexxy> TAsn: yep i know =)
Oct 24 22:21:25 <alexxy> + also some experimental patches
Oct 24 22:22:07 <alexxy> and we (gentoo) decided to not switch to eglibc 
Oct 24 22:22:26 <TAsn> alexxy, you = gentoo on fr?
Oct 24 22:22:39 <alexxy> not only 
Oct 24 22:22:50 <alexxy> also gentoo kde cluster virtualization 
Oct 24 22:23:00 <alexxy> science 
Oct 24 22:23:01 <alexxy> =)
Oct 24 22:24:16 <alexxy> http://bugs.gentoo.org/249434
Oct 24 22:24:27 <alexxy> http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/05/07/a-new-c-library
Oct 24 22:24:43 <alexxy> bug and blog entry of gentoo glibc maintainers 
Oct 24 22:28:06 <TAsn> I remember the debian post. ;)
Oct 24 22:28:13 <TAsn> alexxy, please make your points in mail
Oct 24 22:28:22 <TAsn> as you won't get a decent response now :)
Oct 24 22:28:41 <alexxy> TAsn: ok
Oct 24 22:28:46 <alexxy> in shr-devel?
Oct 24 22:29:55 <TAsn> yes.
Oct 24 22:37:33 <mrmoku> TAsn: did you take a look at my changes in libphone-ui?
Oct 24 22:37:39 <mrmoku> regarding sim-auth
Oct 24 22:37:52 <TAsn> mrmoku, actually, no I haven't
Oct 24 22:37:53 <TAsn> why?
Oct 24 22:38:26 <mrmoku> just to know if it is like you think it is sane
Oct 24 22:39:31 <mrmoku> anyway... it does not work yet correctly
Oct 24 22:39:47 <mrmoku> needs still fixing in libphone-ui-shr
Oct 24 22:40:36 <TAsn> ok, my view of sane: moving that callback to libphone-ui-shr and adding an enum in a .h file
Oct 24 22:40:43 <TAsn> from what I've seen, you did all of those.
Oct 24 22:40:46 <TAsn> which is fine with me :)
Oct 24 22:41:06 <mrmoku> TAsn: enum not needed... as we have that one in lfg already
Oct 24 22:42:08 <TAsn> yes, I saw the commit.
Oct 24 22:42:16 <TAsn> that's what I meant, that's enough ;)
Oct 24 22:46:24 <mrmoku> TAsn: fine... I'm off to bed now
Oct 24 22:46:33 <TAsn> ciao.
Oct 24 22:46:35 <mrmoku> cu
Oct 24 22:46:39 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: (charging non-native batteries in gta01) the shunt resistor measures full current provided by the charger (which obviously includes current necessary to run the system) so out of 200mA maximum (pre-charge) 0 is provided when the system is running with BL on.
Oct 24 22:48:11 <PaulFertser> What's unfortunate about pcf50606 is that it doesn't have separate limiting devices for the charger and the battery. So to not violate usb specs it must be done the way it is.
Oct 24 22:54:46 <PaulFertser> Why the hell it starts charging with ~500mA after the device is powered off is still puzzles me.
Oct 24 22:55:03 <PaulFertser> I hope it doesn't connect battery directly to the charger :-/
Oct 24 23:20:46 <jMcCloud> anyone still here? i am using a lite image, so no sid and mp3 support for fso, what do i need (anything apart from the codecs?)
Oct 25 02:29:15 <raster> mew
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