**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 30 13:17:41 2009 Nov 30 13:19:08 spaetz_, playyaWorking: buzzword overload. I'll stay with imap, fetchmail and mutt :-) Nov 30 13:19:19 :) Nov 30 13:19:21 but then, I generally don't care about google products other than the search engine Nov 30 13:19:50 imho wave is a coll new thingie Nov 30 13:19:58 * spaetz_ shrugs Nov 30 13:20:08 i hope they will open the client specs soon Nov 30 13:20:14 so far I haven't seen the benefits either, but I haven't looked in detail into it Nov 30 13:20:33 so is the Samsung M1 mobile phone, but it lacks/is castrated of some functionality that renders it useless to me. Nov 30 13:20:40 it's a cool protocol without any applications yet. Insofar a solution in search for a problem Nov 30 13:20:46 blindcoder, if you do not like google: http://pygowave.net/ Nov 30 13:21:13 playyaWorking: it's not that I don't like google, it's just that I have no application for its applications. Nov 30 13:22:01 I've written my own RSS reader to learn AJAX, I've got a nicely configured mutt and IMAP server with an installed roundcubemail, own blogsoftware and no ads on my websites. Nov 30 13:22:14 as such there's really not much google applications other than the search can do for me. Nov 30 13:27:13 DocScrutinizer-8: do you think it is ok to require users to set a pasword for root if they want to use ssh (as default config)? Nov 30 13:27:41 yes, absolutely Nov 30 13:28:46 or alternatively manage their keys Nov 30 13:29:41 basically keys seem a good thing, as they allow to pipe into & out from a ssh login Nov 30 13:30:15 ssh neo arecord | aplay Nov 30 13:30:23 DocScrutinizer-8: I agree about keys Nov 30 13:30:24 only works with keys Nov 30 13:30:29 does shr-u now use the opimd backend - or is it still sim based by default? - dont want to fiddle Nov 30 13:30:33 though the key has to be created *not* on the FR Nov 30 13:30:47 as it didnt work out too well last time I tried :( Nov 30 13:30:58 BillK: opimd is default Nov 30 13:31:15 mrmoku: obviously ;-) Nov 30 13:31:53 mrmoku: tkx Nov 30 13:32:16 DocScrutinizer-8: and to install the key... you somehow need ssh Nov 30 13:32:31 yep :-D Nov 30 13:32:49 which means that until ower first start wizard offers the possibility to give a root password Nov 30 13:32:49 you have to open the terminal and do passwd Nov 30 13:34:20 mrmoku: or set the root password randomly and give users sudo rights Nov 30 13:34:30 ahh, our user IS root :) Nov 30 13:34:36 stupid me... Nov 30 13:37:16 :) Nov 30 13:38:07 mrmoku: you can create a random keypair on FR and by some means export the *private* key to desktop, so user can call ssh neo --keyfile neo_private_key Nov 30 13:38:13 mrmoku: do you think OE would mind me pushing shr-testing09 to OE? Or should we host it on shr-project? Nov 30 13:38:28 It would make most sense to have it at OE... But i don't know their policy Nov 30 13:39:37 DocScrutinizer-8: I for one would prefer to use my standard key... Nov 30 13:39:50 sure Nov 30 13:40:00 spaetz_: no certainly not... with git there is no reason not to have a bazzillion of branches :) Nov 30 13:40:02 last resort idea Nov 30 13:40:13 for windoof users ;-) Nov 30 13:40:15 :) Nov 30 13:40:30 man, youtube videos play almost brilliant in fullscreen on the FR :) Nov 30 13:40:58 rebelThor: with what? Nov 30 13:41:25 lindi-: mplayer, and a slightly modified version of the oywl script Nov 30 13:42:05 DocScrutinizer-8: I think being able to give the root password on first start should suffice Nov 30 13:42:27 people being able to create a key should be able to scp it then to the right place :P Nov 30 13:42:36 mrmoku: absolutely Nov 30 13:43:39 rebelThor: with mplayer I get either sound or video but not both at the same time :) Nov 30 13:44:23 ~lart UPS Nov 30 13:44:23 * apt_ beats UPS senseless with a 50lb Unix manual Nov 30 13:44:35 lindi-: it works fine for me, but I do get some crashes now and then, meaning that i only get a few pixels in the bottom left to update, but usually it works out great. let me pastebin the mplayer command i'm using Nov 30 13:45:09 DocScrutinizer-8: don't know if UPS drivers like Unix manuals... might take even longer now until your Nokia hits you... they have a long time reading :P Nov 30 13:45:55 lindi-: try http://pastebin.com/d7444d2e9 and see how that works out for you, it's quite impressive for me Nov 30 13:46:04 I'll kill that driver if he prooves to be too stupid to find my address a second time Nov 30 13:46:24 lindi-: hmm, didn't choose the best video there is, let me get you a different command :D Nov 30 13:49:27 DocScrutinizer-8: did that happen already? Even me found it... Nov 30 13:49:31 mrmoku: I'm living in a 4 flats house, with 2 doors, 3 floors Nov 30 13:49:38 rebelThor: -vo glamo? Nov 30 13:49:46 lindi-: you can take that out lol :D Nov 30 13:49:52 rebelThor: really? Nov 30 13:49:54 it was just a test, it works fine without as well Nov 30 13:49:59 rebelThor: are you using some special version of mplayer? Nov 30 13:50:03 nope, latest shr Nov 30 13:50:09 2 doors (one a "shop" ) obviously is too confusing Nov 30 13:50:22 DocScrutinizer-8: better point your webcam to the road then... and be prepared to jump down when you see a brown car coming ;) Nov 30 13:50:54 damn, I guess the express drivers are outsourced Nov 30 13:52:11 seen a "spezialist fuer gefahrguttransporte" standing in front of my house this morning. when I opened window to shout and ask if he's UPS, he drove away same moment Nov 30 13:52:36 heh, you mean your Nokia is dangerous? :P Nov 30 13:52:38 "dangerous goods" lol Nov 30 13:55:43 which package do I need to build to be able to compile vala apps with on a PC for the FR? Nov 30 13:56:25 blindcoder: mainly vala-native Nov 30 13:56:58 hi Nov 30 13:57:51 mrmoku: ok, makefile should be using "http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/log/?h=shr-testing2009" for shr-testing then Nov 30 13:57:55 pushed Nov 30 13:58:10 still need to remove the AUTOREV'd stuff and all of course Nov 30 13:58:27 lindi-: http://pastebin.com/d70bd2523 works great for me Nov 30 13:58:36 mrmoku: thanks Nov 30 13:58:50 spaetz_: pull in shr/merge again before doing changes :) Nov 30 13:59:06 I will update the Makefile meanwhile Nov 30 13:59:28 hehe, I'll start my way through the gitlog and take all patches if appropriate :) Nov 30 13:59:45 openssh and split navit will have to go in anyway Nov 30 13:59:57 spaetz_: is it really shr-testing2009? or shr/testing2009? Nov 30 14:00:13 I was not sure, I made it shr-testing2009 for now Nov 30 14:00:17 ok Nov 30 14:00:26 although looking at the branches shr/.... would have been more consistent Nov 30 14:00:52 spaetz_: you can still ask mickey|lunch to remove it :P Nov 30 14:00:58 hehe, or to rename Nov 30 14:01:08 shr/testing would be more consistent... Nov 30 14:01:21 so what do I put in the Makefile? Nov 30 14:01:24 well think about it Nov 30 14:01:29 have to go for an hour now Nov 30 14:01:35 bbiab Nov 30 14:01:36 I don't really care Nov 30 14:01:41 as long as OE doesn't shout at me :) Nov 30 14:01:44 have fun Nov 30 14:01:47 I would prefer shr/ but don't care either Nov 30 14:01:54 fun? at waste disposal? ;) Nov 30 14:01:56 let's see Nov 30 14:01:57 hehe Nov 30 14:04:11 rebelThor: what X driver are you using? Nov 30 14:04:22 lindi-: how do I tell? :) Nov 30 14:04:28 rebelThor: xorg.conf? Nov 30 14:04:51 lindi-: looks like it's glamo Nov 30 14:05:01 mickey|lunch: if you read this. I pushed shr-testing2009 to git.OE.org but mrmoku (and I agree) think shr/testing2009 would be more consistent with OE naming conventions Nov 30 14:05:43 mickey|lunch: so if renaming a remote branch is not difficult for you it would be cool to have shr-testing2009 -> shr/testing2009. If not, no harm done either Nov 30 14:06:25 rebelThor: ok Nov 30 14:06:56 lindi-: is that the newest/current one? i haven't changed anything in the default image Nov 30 14:11:00 rebelThor: i don't do images Nov 30 14:12:16 lindi-: so i recon you're using a different driver then ? how does it work for you? Nov 30 14:15:53 rebelThor: i'm using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev Nov 30 14:16:12 lindi-: i'm going to try that and see if it boots :) Nov 30 14:16:24 mrmoku|away: Makefile patch sent to list (assuming shr/testing2009 name for now, let's see) Nov 30 14:18:41 where's the setup which alsa-controls are used by volume sliders of dialer? Nov 30 14:19:17 fsophoned.cfg? Nov 30 14:22:12 shrphonegui.cfg? Nov 30 14:22:29 c'mon, anybody to help me out? Nov 30 14:39:51 DocScrutinizer-8: /etc/phoneui.conf Nov 30 14:41:18 ohh Nov 30 14:41:23 DocScrutinizer-8: libphoneui.conf that is Nov 30 14:41:29 or http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-ui.git;a=blob;f=data/libphoneui.conf;h=5f81c9cf2f03bdaf04815d84aff1c5c172fd2663;hb=8ec23ddd98bfd2e49b2affb23c7b8c9e29053c8a Nov 30 14:41:34 if you want to check the source Nov 30 14:42:00 for handset: Nov 30 14:42:05 mrmoku: thanks Nov 30 14:42:07 speaker = Speaker Playback Volume Nov 30 14:42:14 microphone = Mono Playback Volume Nov 30 14:43:54 DocScrutinizer-8: if you find any errors... ping me and spank TAsn Nov 30 14:43:58 in which order doesn't matter :P Nov 30 14:46:13 mrmoku: ok, so how would I go about building shr-testing on the buildhost? Nov 30 14:48:14 spaetz_: SHR_THEMES should stay individual revs :/ this way users will redownload all themes without any change.. Nov 30 14:48:41 JaMa: but it means additional admin overhead :). OK Nov 30 14:49:09 I'll replace these with individual revs as I go. First I want to compile that and check if it runs at all Nov 30 14:50:02 JaMa: I'll probably outsource those shr-related revs anyway, finding the stuff in sane-srcrevs is pretty annoying Nov 30 14:50:06 spaetz_: oki.. I don't mind.. as I download it only locally over usb :) Nov 30 14:50:15 hehe, so do I Nov 30 14:50:26 home wifi, actually Nov 30 14:50:33 spaetz_: but still opkg upgrade will take longer .. Nov 30 14:50:50 shared git repos are evil :) Nov 30 14:50:57 yep :) Nov 30 14:51:06 spaetz_: why its anonying? its alphabetically sorted.. Nov 30 14:51:08 especialy shr-themes is a hog with many different things. Nov 30 14:52:41 JaMa: try to update phone* to a newer state. You'll have to go through and phone libphone-ui phonefsod phoneui-apps etc, if they were next to each other, it would be much easier to spot Nov 30 14:52:57 and *find* ... Nov 30 14:54:54 JaMa: /win 6 Nov 30 14:54:56 oops Nov 30 14:55:00 I hate my keyboard Nov 30 14:55:02 sorry Nov 30 14:55:27 last time I upgraded I had the idea everything (binary/pkg) has a version string with compile date, so *all* packages were upgraded to match the new compilation date Nov 30 14:56:57 anyway upgrade tends to take ages - like start on Fr, check next week if it's finnished :-P Nov 30 14:59:52 probably opkg upgrade never really finishes, as when it's done with last pkg there's already a more recent version of first pkg on builthost Nov 30 15:03:24 spaetz: (testing) incredible. The most important task since at least 2 months. Really, thank you so much for that Nov 30 15:05:09 DocScrutinizer-8: well, let's see how far I get. But yes, I agree it's important Nov 30 15:05:24 although a tedious, boring, and thankless job ;-P Nov 30 15:05:33 spaetz: please ping me as soon as your testing image is there. So I finally can change the recommendation in #openmoko topic Nov 30 15:07:03 spaetz: I feel with you, and though the job might be thankless, be assured me and a lot of *users* will thank you and praise you for that Nov 30 15:08:27 SHR: 03mok 07shr-makefile * r5195efb3ae7d 10/Makefile: Makefile: set branch for shr-testing to shr-testing2009 Nov 30 15:10:30 ERROR: '['/home/spaetz/src/shrbuildenv/shr-testing/openembedded/recipes/tasks/task-shr-minimal.bb']' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'opimd-utils-cli' but it wasn't found in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables Nov 30 15:10:51 err, task-shr-minimal indeep rdepends on opimd-utils-cli Nov 30 15:10:55 where is that defined? Nov 30 15:11:03 opimd-utils? Nov 30 15:11:08 yes Nov 30 15:11:47 mmh, not here. checking closer Nov 30 15:12:23 ahh, weird Nov 30 15:13:47 there is no PACKAGES variable Nov 30 15:13:47 weird? SHR / OM? Impooooosible! ;-) Nov 30 15:14:00 but there was never one Nov 30 15:19:06 doh, old tree Nov 30 15:19:34 Hi Nov 30 15:24:54 !logs Nov 30 15:24:55 Channel logs for #openmoko-cdevel are archived at: Nov 30 15:24:56 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23openmoko-cdevel Nov 30 15:24:57 Live-logs are available at Nov 30 15:24:59 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23openmoko-cdevel.livelog Nov 30 15:25:01 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Nov 30 15:25:43 mrmoku: this time no "gefahrgut spezialist". Maybe was an incident Nov 30 15:25:54 :-))))) Nov 30 15:27:24 DocScrutinizer-8: got it? Nov 30 15:27:30 yup Nov 30 15:27:34 incredible :) Nov 30 15:27:39 have fun then :D Nov 30 15:28:11 mrmoku: hi, I want to ask the team why the numbers' resolving takes so long.. Nov 30 15:28:26 yeah. can't wait until my omnia boots up, to document even the closed pack Nov 30 15:28:49 sylar91: or even don't work Nov 30 15:29:12 sylar91: how many contacts do you have? Nov 30 15:29:21 mrmoku: 200 ca. Nov 30 15:29:50 sylar91: opimd is not the fastest thing, yes :| Nov 30 15:30:04 mrmoku: but what about the cache? Nov 30 15:30:24 sylar91: right now there is no cache anymore Nov 30 15:30:32 where do you feel the slowness? message list? Nov 30 15:31:06 johnnymnemonic: not resolving is wrong config most of the time Nov 30 15:31:12 mrmoku: yep. it is really really too slow, it takes up to 10 seconds to start resolving the first ones Nov 30 15:31:13 actually, we need an opimd config page on trac Nov 30 15:31:26 I want to store new contacts on my SIM card and not sql.db Nov 30 15:31:33 sylar91: for message list we can (and will so soon) do something Nov 30 15:31:37 there are more problems Nov 30 15:32:04 first one is that it starts to resolve numbers _after_ having done the feed of all messages Nov 30 15:32:11 spaetz_: then just change the backend Nov 30 15:32:27 spaetz_: you can set it up in shr-settings... Nov 30 15:32:40 second thing is that we will add a dirty throw away cache to not resolve a number twice when building the list Nov 30 15:32:40 Others->PIM->Contacts->SIM-Contacts-FSO->Set as default Nov 30 15:32:47 dos1: ahh, cool. didn't know that Nov 30 15:32:54 dos1: hey Nov 30 15:33:00 dos1: we need the root password thing :) Nov 30 15:33:00 hey ;) Nov 30 15:33:14 mrmoku: but.. actually which is the advantage to use opimd when no sent-sms view is aviable? isn't it the same to use the old sim backend? Nov 30 15:33:25 mrmoku: i think firstly you want rest of callback fixes :P Nov 30 15:33:32 as i fixed only part of them in shr-settings Nov 30 15:33:42 sylar91: one advantage is no limit in count of SMS Nov 30 15:33:49 dos1: sure :) Nov 30 15:34:04 mrmoku: .. anything else? XD Nov 30 15:34:17 mrmoku: where can I check the config? Nov 30 15:34:53 sylar91: not enough? :P Nov 30 15:35:01 johnnymnemonic: /etc/phone-utils.conf I think Nov 30 15:35:02 johnnymnemonic: /etc/phone-utils.conf Nov 30 15:35:11 sylar91: you should have sent sms displayed... Nov 30 15:35:12 mrmoku: ehm.. nope :D Nov 30 15:35:12 but you can configure it via shr-settings too Nov 30 15:35:19 dos1: where? oO Nov 30 15:35:28 sylar91: in message list ;P Nov 30 15:35:35 it should be at least Nov 30 15:35:47 and making different screen for incoming and outgoing messages shouldn't be hard with opimd Nov 30 15:36:08 dos1: ah! it's true! I haven't ever seen this detail.. Nov 30 15:36:18 my phone-utils.conf is almost empty Nov 30 15:36:23 dos1: yes and it should be a must :D Nov 30 15:36:27 well, almost equal to the default Nov 30 15:36:36 the only difference is the country code Nov 30 15:37:00 dos1, how is the redesign giong on? Nov 30 15:37:29 playyaWorking: hmm? Nov 30 15:37:52 i just heard that you want to redesign opimd Nov 30 15:38:48 mrmoku: any news with shr-testing builds? Nov 30 15:39:06 sylar91: spaetz_ branched testing and is preparing for buildtime Nov 30 15:39:19 mrmoku: good :D Nov 30 15:40:27 <[Rui]> hey! Nov 30 15:41:03 Running task 38 of 7486 Nov 30 15:41:09 expect it to take some time :) Nov 30 15:41:32 also this will not be the final first snapshot. Just a first testing build. Stuff will still have to change Nov 30 15:41:59 spaetz_: which changes are going on? Nov 30 15:43:17 Snapshot from Saturday evening. AUTOREV's removed. Changes that will have to go in are: Nov 30 15:43:33 1) openssh rather dropbear and 2) navit package split Nov 30 15:43:57 as those are thing happening in my upstream (shr/merge) and are hard to follow with simple opkg upgrade Nov 30 15:44:31 and of course I'll have to see if all the SHR app revisions work together... Nov 30 15:48:55 hi all! Nov 30 15:49:17 what currently is mrmoku/unstable feed? Nov 30 15:49:18 By the by, guys, really nice image I downloaded :-) Nov 30 15:49:51 Ainulindale: you downloaded from mrmoku/unstable... tststst :P Nov 30 15:50:21 nope Nov 30 15:50:44 fixed it by manually installing the shr illume thing? Nov 30 15:51:39 okay, shr now booting with Qi, let's see it not-wsod'ing :-) Nov 30 15:57:34 mrmoku: yep Nov 30 16:00:44 <[Rui]> where are the bubbles borked? at libelm or at the theme level? Nov 30 16:00:52 <[Rui]> anyone knows? Nov 30 16:07:17 mrmoku: what is difference between shr-unstable and your unstable branch? Nov 30 16:07:59 mrmoku: is even more unstable ;) Nov 30 16:08:50 err, mrmoku's is even more unstable :) Nov 30 16:09:03 and mostly obsolete, now that shr/merge compiles and is used Nov 30 16:09:48 mrmoku: are you people aware of the fact that the gsm modem doesn't wake up when you get a call and the phone is on suspend ? Nov 30 16:09:58 alexxy: mrmoku/unstable is shr-unstable (before syncing it) Nov 30 16:10:09 meaning that anybody calling me prettty much gets voicemail Nov 30 16:10:09 Abaddon_: that should be fixed Nov 30 16:10:21 Abaddon_: do you mean it does not even resume? Nov 30 16:10:27 mrmoku: I should probably also have that, in order to get a shr-testing-testing :) Nov 30 16:10:38 spaetz_: well... you have that :P Nov 30 16:10:42 mrmoku: great, in next image ? Nov 30 16:10:50 ahh? /me explores the test dir Nov 30 16:10:52 ahh no Nov 30 16:10:55 removed it :P Nov 30 16:11:05 mrmoku: let me explain Nov 30 16:11:11 spaetz_: just add a tests/spaetz/testing ;) Nov 30 16:11:12 I have the freerunner Nov 30 16:11:32 mrmoku: right, that is what I was thinking of. Nov 30 16:11:48 mrmoku: and I modified it so there is no recamping any more Nov 30 16:12:32 mrmoku: so I switched the line in frameworkd.conf to deepsleep = always Nov 30 16:12:56 mrmoku: and now if the phone is on suspend and somebody calls Nov 30 16:13:04 woooohooo, it even charges battery ;-P Nov 30 16:13:15 sorry, OT Nov 30 16:13:17 mrmoku: he gets voicemail and the phone doesn't even wake up Nov 30 16:13:44 Abaddon_: hmm, did you try if it works with deepsleep = never? Nov 30 16:14:00 well no I didn't Nov 30 16:14:09 DocScrutinizer-8: take some distance... might explode :P Nov 30 16:14:10 the point of the mod was to get battery life Nov 30 16:14:32 mrmoku: if I don't undo the trick then I get no more battery life Nov 30 16:14:33 yeah, but to see what is going on that might be an interesting test Nov 30 16:14:33 ouch, sits on my knees ATM Nov 30 16:14:50 mrmoku: ok, I'll try it right now Nov 30 16:17:00 Abaddon_: to take effect you have to at least restart frameworkd and then phonefsod Nov 30 16:17:03 (or reboot) Nov 30 16:17:22 mrmoku: I have just rebooted :) Nov 30 16:17:27 BTW, mrmoku I kept the shr-revisions fixed but merge the recent shr/merge tree, so openssh should be in (if it compiles successfully) Nov 30 16:17:38 ...but merged... Nov 30 16:18:43 good Nov 30 16:21:39 "the infraread connection is not IrDA compatible" WTF?! Nov 30 16:21:53 mrmoku: ok, just tested Nov 30 16:22:04 mrmoku: the phone does wake up and rings Nov 30 16:22:12 mrmoku: all normal Nov 30 16:22:20 hmm Nov 30 16:22:48 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: nyour n900 finally arrived? Nov 30 16:23:40 anybody in here is using deepsleep = always? Nov 30 16:23:44 mrmoku: when I use deepsleep = always Nov 30 16:24:04 [Rui]: yep Nov 30 16:24:08 :-) Nov 30 16:24:20 mrmoku: I clearly notice the network bar (top left) switching from no network to my network when I wake up the phone Nov 30 16:24:23 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: the screen is kind of small, innit? Nov 30 16:24:52 DocScrutinizer-8: could you think of any reason why a (fixed) phone won't wake up from suspend on incoming calls when using deepsleep? Nov 30 16:24:53 and the stylus is not compatible with the one of N810 ;-( ;-D Nov 30 16:25:20 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: there was a (4 person) N900 meet-up a few weeks ago in here in Lisboa, and I got to see one VDVsx brought Nov 30 16:25:29 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: too bad it's too proprietary :( Nov 30 16:25:45 mrmoku: sleep=2 fixes the issue?? Nov 30 16:26:03 Abaddon_: could you try that? ^^^ Nov 30 16:26:04 stupid question: if I boot from internal memory only, is the sd card hotpluggable, ie can I plug it in during runtime? Nov 30 16:26:09 DocScrutinizer-8: sleep=never fixes it Nov 30 16:26:24 strange, lemme think about it Nov 30 16:26:41 mrmoku: you want me to try what, exactly ? Nov 30 16:26:55 mrmoku: what means "fixed" Nov 30 16:27:15 "fixed" phone Nov 30 16:27:19 Abaddon_: what fix did you do to your phone? Nov 30 16:27:49 replacing a 10micro capacitor by a 22micro one Nov 30 16:28:02 in the gsm module directly Nov 30 16:28:03 DocScrutinizer-8: ^^ Nov 30 16:28:10 hehe Nov 30 16:28:13 check for #1024 Nov 30 16:28:21 mrmoku is a relay Nov 30 16:28:28 yup :P Nov 30 16:28:32 between 2 people who are present in this channel :) Nov 30 16:28:48 try to call inbound. see if far end gets ringback Nov 30 16:28:56 DocScrutinizer-8: what I did was a suggested fix for bug 1024 Nov 30 16:29:33 Abaddon_: ^ Nov 30 16:30:06 Abaddon_: and check fso logs Nov 30 16:30:15 DocScrutinizer-8, pong Nov 30 16:30:16 mrmoku, pong Nov 30 16:30:16 DocScrutinizer-8: so I can try any call you want, just let me know what I should put under deepsleep in frameworkd Nov 30 16:30:32 TAsn: obsolete Nov 30 16:30:37 :P Nov 30 16:30:45 just when I felt popular :( Nov 30 16:31:46 DocScrutinizer-8: when i try calling inbound with deepsleep = always, I get voicemail directly Nov 30 16:31:55 Abaddon_: deepsleep=always (OWTTE), then call FR and see if there is ringback (aka call) tone on calling phone Nov 30 16:33:03 mrmoku: is there anything special required to have builds appear in tinderbox? Nov 30 16:33:04 DocScrutinizer-8: it doesn't ring Nov 30 16:33:10 Abaddon_: then your fix is borked. You have #1024 *always* now ;-| Nov 30 16:33:14 mrmoku, ping. Nov 30 16:33:15 DocScrutinizer-8: neither the FR nor the calling phone Nov 30 16:33:20 TAsn: pong Nov 30 16:33:22 DocScrutinizer-8: direct voicemail Nov 30 16:33:31 mrmoku, pm + is fsodeviced in feed? Nov 30 16:33:40 (the non ringing twice one) Nov 30 16:33:59 TAsn: no, but I could sync soon Nov 30 16:34:02 DocScrutinizer-8: can't be Nov 30 16:34:03 new image seems to work Nov 30 16:34:16 DocScrutinizer-8: the Fr works perfectly as long as it is not in suspend Nov 30 16:34:16 mrmoku, cool, please sync :P Nov 30 16:34:18 Abaddon_: I have no better explanation Nov 30 16:35:15 DocScrutinizer-8: the 1024 bug is you being diconnected from the network Nov 30 16:35:23 yep Nov 30 16:35:28 DocScrutinizer-8: I don't get disconnected, Nov 30 16:35:41 only happens when modem goes to deepsleep Nov 30 16:35:52 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * ra0075ad89f26 10/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Second part of pyelm callbacks fix (now with working window closing :P) Nov 30 16:36:25 DocScrutinizer-8: and how long does it take the modem to go to deep sleep .? Nov 30 16:36:40 Abaddon_: what do you mean exactly by "i dont get disconnected"? Nov 30 16:37:03 Abaddon_: about 10sec Nov 30 16:37:12 DocScrutinizer-8: I have no network issue as long as the phone is not on suspend Nov 30 16:37:18 dos1, choosing country in wizard: does it work? :P Nov 30 16:37:27 DocScrutinizer-8: so it doesn't come from the fix Nov 30 16:37:38 as long as the phone stays off suspend, I'm fine Nov 30 16:37:45 what means "network issue"? Nov 30 16:38:11 DocScrutinizer-8: means I have full & stable connection to my GSM network Nov 30 16:38:18 TAsn: there is no list, it just fills defaults with detected country :P Nov 30 16:38:27 you thoroughly tested? Nov 30 16:38:31 TAsn: but i think fixing callbacks is more important ;p Nov 30 16:38:40 DocScrutinizer-8: as long as my phone doesn't suspend Nov 30 16:38:40 dos1, I agree :P Nov 30 16:39:10 well I've been using the fixed phone for over a month now Nov 30 16:39:23 (filling defaults with selected country is not optimal, but it's better than nothing ;P btw, if you can, please add some explanation to there. (wizards need "help" sections) Nov 30 16:39:26 so I would consider it quite thorough Nov 30 16:40:04 <[Rui]> here's me hoping evas_object_size_hint_max_set on a bubble helps work around the horrible bug they have right now Nov 30 16:40:29 DocScrutinizer-8: now I'm turtning off autosuspend and auto dimming to observe gsm behaviour Nov 30 16:40:39 Abaddon_: check FSO's logs. Ask mickey to scrutinize them. Tell him I suspect a severe case of #1024, plus maybe constant keepalive of modem by permanent unsol msg or AT%sleep=2, during non-suspend Nov 30 16:41:05 DocScrutinizer-8: ok, will do Nov 30 16:41:09 [Rui]: i think that's not just problem with bubbles Nov 30 16:41:12 TAsn: sync is running Nov 30 16:41:13 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * rc8fe67b15b3e 10/ (5 files): Fix destroy callbacks Nov 30 16:41:15 DocScrutinizer-8: just where do I find those logs ? Nov 30 16:41:23 [Rui]: boxes also behave stangely for some time... Nov 30 16:41:31 not only in bubbles Nov 30 16:41:47 Abaddon_: sorry, have no more good advice, no better explanation, and a highly exciting other topic distracting me atm Nov 30 16:42:01 mrmoku, let me know :P Nov 30 16:42:12 DocScrutinizer-8: kay, thx anyway Nov 30 16:42:13 DocScrutinizer-8: show us a picture of her! ;P Nov 30 16:42:14 <[Rui]> dos1: haven't noticed anything with boxes, what've you seen? Nov 30 16:42:23 anyway going home now. bbl Nov 30 16:42:24 hehe Nov 30 16:42:24 [Rui]: look at opimd-contacts :P Nov 30 16:42:25 dos1, btw, those changes are in master or a branch? Nov 30 16:42:31 TAsn: yup Nov 30 16:42:39 mrmoku: can you take over Abaddon_ Nov 30 16:42:46 please? Nov 30 16:43:01 [Rui]: more detailed: boxes in scrollers Nov 30 16:43:06 mickey|lunch: ping Nov 30 16:43:06 <[Rui]> dos1: what's wrong with it? (other than extremely sensitive to fingers)? Nov 30 16:43:32 [Rui]: box content is somehow outside scroller Nov 30 16:43:37 <[Rui]> dos1: hms... elmdentica's bubble are inside a box which is inside a scroller... maybe same bug? Nov 30 16:43:50 dos1, yes is not an answer to a multiple options question... Nov 30 16:43:57 [Rui], how's the setting screen doing? :P Nov 30 16:44:18 <[Rui]> TAsn: I don't know, I still can't view anything :) Nov 30 16:44:23 mrmoku: just one thing Nov 30 16:44:24 why? Nov 30 16:44:30 mrmoku: where do I get the fso logs ? Nov 30 16:44:34 [Rui]: but it's elementary/evas/edje bug, so bug raster to fix it :P Nov 30 16:44:37 TAsn: ? Nov 30 16:44:39 <[Rui]> TAsn: I think I will have to make an app which links with libshr-ui and calls it Nov 30 16:44:50 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r683678c77ba6 10/geekogotchi_ui_efl.py: ui-efl: fix destroy callback Nov 30 16:44:54 Abaddon_: /var/log/frameworkd.log Nov 30 16:44:56 [Rui], just wait for the sync Nov 30 16:45:05 mrmoku: thx Nov 30 16:45:05 <[Rui]> dos1: is it the scroller that looks like it's half outside? Nov 30 16:45:06 will include the dbus iface iirc Nov 30 16:45:14 dos1, btw, those changes are in master or a branch? Nov 30 16:45:15 [Rui]: yup Nov 30 16:45:17 master or a branch? Nov 30 16:45:21 yes is not an answer to that. Nov 30 16:45:21 TAsn: aaaaah Nov 30 16:45:23 TAsn: :D Nov 30 16:45:23 :> Nov 30 16:45:25 TAsn: master Nov 30 16:45:57 :) Nov 30 16:46:02 dos1, i c. Nov 30 16:46:14 dos1, mind also doing it for mokonnect and sending a patch to fate? Nov 30 16:46:16 <[Rui]> dos1: well, max size does work around the bug, but it also needs minium size. Nov 30 16:46:23 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-wizard * r1a233591b635 10/python/shr-wizard.py: python: fix destroy callback Nov 30 16:46:24 Abaddon_: have you updated your gsm firmware? Nov 30 16:46:24 TAsn: btw... that will be a mega update :P Nov 30 16:46:25 (he doesn't have time and I don't have a clue) Nov 30 16:46:32 mrmoku, that's fine with me. Nov 30 16:46:38 (by the way guy, shr-project renewed for a year) Nov 30 16:46:39 DocScrutinizer-8: nope, never touched it Nov 30 16:46:48 +.org Nov 30 16:46:50 <[Rui]> now I need an algorithm to calculate estimated max size, perhaps number of characters... Nov 30 16:46:52 Ainulindale: congrats :P Nov 30 16:47:20 Yeah I contributed \o/ Nov 30 16:47:28 I'm soooo useful Nov 30 16:48:23 TAsn: ok, give it a try... and don't complain :P Nov 30 16:48:23 Abaddon_: check if FR resumes on inbound call directly in FIRST suspend after boot(incl remove bat!), and if it resumes on SECOND+ suspend Nov 30 16:48:25 bbl Nov 30 16:49:06 mrmoku|away, if it's broken, you are dead. Nov 30 16:49:12 :P Nov 30 16:49:18 DocScrutinizer-8: I'm looking at the logs now, and they show no scillation unless the phone goes in suspend Nov 30 16:49:35 <[Rui]> ok, let's try around 40c / line, 50pixels height per line Nov 30 16:50:07 DocScrutinizer-8: so I must remove the battery and try calling after 1st suspend ? Nov 30 16:51:21 Abaddon_: remove bat to really power dow. boot, suspend for FIRST time!! call. resume via hw button, and suspend for 2nd time. call Nov 30 16:51:24 DocScrutinizer-8: I deactivated auto suspend, and I have seen no trace in the logs for the last 4 mins Nov 30 16:51:45 DocScrutinizer-8: Ok, I'll try Nov 30 16:52:42 no log entries doesn't mean much. possibly you got one looong #1024 related connectivity loss Nov 30 16:53:07 * DocScrutinizer-8 away Nov 30 16:53:17 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-installer * r2c56be40590b 10/shr-installer: fix callbacks with new pyelm Nov 30 16:54:45 spaetz_: fixed your calc to work with new pyelm Nov 30 16:54:58 <[Rui]> dos1: do you want to try a workaround? maybe querying window size and max_set it? Nov 30 16:55:07 <[Rui]> sucks on rotation, though Nov 30 16:55:21 after editing /etc/frameworkd.conf do I restart frameworkd or is a HUP enough? Nov 30 16:55:24 [Rui]: i would like to have it fixed in upstream, not workarounded :P Nov 30 16:55:47 <[Rui]> in my case I'm doing min_set(480, 90), max_set(640, ratio*45) Nov 30 16:56:08 <[Rui]> dos1: yeah, me too. but I know not edje-fu Nov 30 16:56:11 spaetz: and i think you should bump few revs for shr-testing Nov 30 16:56:24 dos1: nice.didn even notice it was broken with new pyelm :) Nov 30 16:56:33 to include those callbacks fixes Nov 30 16:56:41 sybren: I think you need to restart it Nov 30 16:57:02 hi SHR people...as I realy need the pimlico tasks I tried to cross-compile it with oe for om-gta02...but I've a limits.h problem with dbus...and I don't use an external toolchain Nov 30 16:57:18 dos1: I am not even sure how new my pyelm is and if I need the fixes Nov 30 16:57:18 because the thread on oe ml was about external toolchains+limits.h Nov 30 16:57:29 but if yes, i'll bump of course Nov 30 16:57:37 spaetz_: thx Nov 30 16:57:50 dos1: I just don't want a version with non-working windows and stuff Nov 30 16:57:58 like half-implemented stuff Nov 30 16:58:05 ahh train arriving. bbl Nov 30 16:58:27 spaetz_: if you have the same EFLREV as in unstable now, then now you have broken windows in testing ;P Nov 30 17:00:28 DocScrutinizer-8: this time it woke up Nov 30 17:00:34 DocScrutinizer-8: both times Nov 30 17:03:45 DocScrutinizer-8: 3rd time, 5 mins later works too Nov 30 17:05:11 Abaddon_: you should update gsm firmware anyway. cna't say what's the cause of your problem, but when you have updated, at least this won't be a possible cause anymore Nov 30 17:05:40 DocScrutinizer-8: Ok, I didn't do it before because it seemed slightly dangerous Nov 30 17:06:01 is *absolutely* safe. use uSD-image Nov 30 17:06:51 DocScrutinizer-8: uSD-image ? Nov 30 17:07:05 see wiki page Nov 30 17:07:28 the trac wiki ? Nov 30 17:08:25 <[Rui]> dos1: setting max_size helped, but setting min_size is (apparently) ignored. Nov 30 17:08:35 hey guys. I just rebooted, and after the reboot my /home/root wasn't mounted any more. My /etc/fstab is at http://shr.pastebin.com/m4b8c4920 Nov 30 17:11:01 wtf? Running task 4037 of 10478 (ID: 4388, /home/playya/om/shr-makefile/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/libdvdread/libdvdread_0.9.7.bb, Nov 30 17:15:04 sybren: /media/mmcblk0p2 is not mounted anywhere Nov 30 17:15:24 blindcoder: still, after I booted it's mounted, and before today it always worked just fine Nov 30 17:16:08 blindcoder: and I just rebooted again for good measure, and it works again. Very strange. Nov 30 17:16:21 AWESOME Nov 30 17:16:28 bbl Nov 30 17:16:33 DocScrutinizer-8: what? Nov 30 17:20:23 playya__: mplayer dependency? Nov 30 17:21:02 hmm. maybe. Nov 30 17:21:35 maybe we should try to remove some of this useless depencies Nov 30 17:22:25 slyon: Idle screen: it's not fullscreen :( Nov 30 17:22:59 btw. is it intentional that pressing aux stops shr-today? Nov 30 17:23:06 yes. Nov 30 17:23:21 playya__: yes, and you can configure that Nov 30 17:23:45 that would have been my next question Nov 30 17:24:45 dos1, id i screw up sth in gry theme ? -> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6e95588641523c82bfe4d91e5af49e95.png Nov 30 17:25:29 JesusMcCloud: no, that's elementary problem Nov 30 17:25:39 [Rui]: ^^^^, that's also what's sometimes happening :P Nov 30 17:26:02 JesusMcCloud: i already workarounded it, probably you just have old package Nov 30 17:26:03 same one that kicks in when bubbles in opimd notifier shoudl be deisplayed? Nov 30 17:26:18 dos1, i did not post that screenie Nov 30 17:26:37 JesusMcCloud: yup, same one Nov 30 17:26:38 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * rd7f771e511b5 10/src/view/idle-view.c: Idle_screen: Fixed the errornous remove deletion of the wallpaper Nov 30 17:30:43 <[Rui]> dos1: sucks :( Nov 30 17:32:03 can someone help me solve this problem: everytime i opkg list_upgradbale i get this -> http://pastebin.com/m25a80c94 even when i just opkg upgraded... Nov 30 17:33:21 hi again....I've the problem with htcdream too,so roughly om-gta02+htcdream have that issue: #include_next fails in ${tmpdir}/cross/armv6-novfp/lib/gcc/arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/4.4.2/include-fixed/limits.h Nov 30 17:33:39 someone had the issue in oe but it was with external toolchains Nov 30 17:37:21 <[Rui]> dos1: someone on #e just told me that there have been fixes related to size_hints Nov 30 17:43:40 dos1: have you added root password in new releases? Nov 30 17:44:22 root passwd? why? my god :( Nov 30 17:44:36 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * r646f05824ef1 10/src/util/window.c: Idle_screen: Made it fullscreen Nov 30 17:44:49 zoff99: ever heard of this cellphone called the 'iPhone'? :-) Nov 30 17:45:01 nope whats that :) Nov 30 17:45:07 zoff99: they got problems with their rootpw, too :-) Nov 30 17:45:20 ..... Nov 30 17:45:21 why set a root passwd? Nov 30 17:45:27 on a development phone Nov 30 17:45:30 gprs Nov 30 17:45:35 wlan Nov 30 17:45:41 BiggMatt: no Nov 30 17:45:58 and wy i can't connect over ssh? Nov 30 17:46:13 but we wan't to add screen to shr-wizard, to set root password on first boot Nov 30 17:46:48 so Nov 30 17:46:55 there's not a root password? Nov 30 17:47:16 anyone any idea if reflashing current unstable (30. nov) requeires any manual inteverntion? Nov 30 17:47:48 <[Rui]> are evas/edje/elm/... fixed at some version or following trunk? Nov 30 17:47:53 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * rd58e6d5f087c 10/src/ (util/window.c view/idle-view.c): IdleScreen + window: Last commit accidentally set all windows to fullscreen (bah) This commit reverted that and made only idlescreen fullscreen. Nov 30 17:48:01 shouldn't it enough to bind sshd to the usb0 device? Nov 30 17:48:15 and only enable wifi with a flag? Nov 30 17:48:40 btw I've a quick question: where is boost installed? Nov 30 17:49:26 in ${libdir}/libboost_%s*.so* ? Nov 30 17:50:15 what are ubi and ubifs images in the shr repo? Nov 30 17:50:17 afaik yes Nov 30 17:51:01 ok thanks Nov 30 17:51:13 so I'll go in oe to try to fix my pathes Nov 30 17:53:29 hi which is the best mail client for NEo ..the debain one Nov 30 17:54:31 <[Rui]> does the OE buildhost build for all machines? Nov 30 18:05:29 <- online with quite current shr-unstable Nov 30 18:07:00 hey, what image should I download for my Neo? full-om-gta02.jffs2 or shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20091130-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Nov 30 18:07:50 it seems there are the same Nov 30 18:08:03 <[Rui]> SSH should only be listening in by default to cable connection. Nov 30 18:08:20 <[Rui]> wifi networks are too dangerous to let it listen there by default. Nov 30 18:08:36 <[Rui]> it's not the first time SSH has had problems, and it will not be the last. Nov 30 18:09:05 <[Rui]> why is geek'sphone WQVGA? idiots :( Nov 30 18:17:43 TAsn: and... am I dead? :P Nov 30 18:18:44 mrmoku: you seem awfully online for a dead person Nov 30 18:18:59 :P Nov 30 18:19:06 that means I'm not dead :D Nov 30 18:19:32 I had more commits then everyone else last week, expect of koen, and that without commit access :D Nov 30 18:19:48 mrmoku: unless there's IRC in heaven after all :P Nov 30 18:21:38 who knows :) Nov 30 18:22:12 * mrmoku flies back to his white cloud and reads a nice book to make the small one sleep :P Nov 30 18:30:07 openssh conflicts with dropbear. should I remove dropbear? Nov 30 18:30:44 <[Rui]> Flyser: one replaces the other Nov 30 18:31:07 so this transition is intended? Nov 30 18:32:07 why a brand new shr says "could not connect to fso" ? Nov 30 18:37:22 <[Rui]> johnnymnemonic: because it wanted to cross the street? (oh wait, wrong joke) Nov 30 18:38:39 <- back on matchbox-keyboard Nov 30 18:38:49 johnnymnemonic: because it's unstable Nov 30 18:39:08 mh... nice move Wonka Nov 30 18:39:34 is no sound while in call a known gub? Nov 30 18:39:44 s/gub?/bug?/ Nov 30 18:39:46 JesusMcCloud meant: is no sound while in call a known bug? Nov 30 18:40:05 or maybe i fucked uo ma gsamhandset scenario... Nov 30 18:40:17 sure it's unstable but... Nov 30 18:45:18 Hi guys! what's up? :) Nov 30 18:46:04 New fresh images? what 's in there? Nov 30 18:47:46 GarthPS, i'm ahving some problems here with latest image... i am checkign if they are my fault or niot Nov 30 18:48:38 JesusMcCloud: ok thanks. and do you know what are known bugs in this version? Nov 30 18:48:49 GarthPS, nope, no idea Nov 30 18:49:10 JesusMcCloud: :) Nov 30 18:49:12 JesusMcCloud: I guess you fucked it uup :P Nov 30 18:49:31 * JesusMcCloud reboots phone Nov 30 18:49:33 because I was trying your sound state today... had an incoming call and did not hear anything :) Nov 30 18:50:00 Flyser: remove dropbear... BUT do that in vala-terminal not via ssh Nov 30 18:50:07 mrmoku, this is weird... maybe i sent the wrong file... Nov 30 18:50:15 mrmoku: okay. thx Nov 30 18:54:18 mrmoku, yup wrong file... Nov 30 18:54:41 JesusMcCloud: hehe Nov 30 18:56:26 damn, i lost my good statefile Nov 30 18:57:07 :P ^^ Nov 30 18:59:15 who is to blame for that alsa desater anyways? Nov 30 19:00:26 i mentioned that the ring tone sounds after activating the moko after a passed call, anyone already got that? Nov 30 19:01:26 Hardy: there is (hopefully was) an error that fsodeviced played the ringtone twice Nov 30 19:01:53 ah you think its fixed? Nov 30 19:01:54 * JesusMcCloud tries new statefile Nov 30 19:02:12 (...as soon as phone is ready) Nov 30 19:02:23 xD Nov 30 19:03:27 TAsn, ping Nov 30 19:03:42 TAsn, ping ping ^^ Nov 30 19:06:10 * JesusMcCloud fucked up gsmhandset again Nov 30 19:06:48 nice Nov 30 19:07:34 TAsn: ping ping ping Nov 30 19:09:48 root password? :O Nov 30 19:10:48 Sharwin_F: yeah :) Nov 30 19:11:04 mrmoku, which one comes by default? xD Nov 30 19:11:11 Sharwin_F: none Nov 30 19:11:22 Sharwin_F: which means you can't ssh into it Nov 30 19:11:22 hi Nov 30 19:11:32 Sharwin_F: have to set it via console and passwd Nov 30 19:11:33 mrmoku, so I have to set it using vala.terminal in neo? Nov 30 19:11:36 ok :) Nov 30 19:11:37 yep :) Nov 30 19:11:56 Sharwin_F: soon the first start wizzard will be ready and include setting the root password Nov 30 19:13:12 great! :) Nov 30 19:14:06 looking at new things now, I have been using an old unstable image or some time as there were things not working properly Nov 30 19:15:57 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r2010bd195b00 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): add phoneui-utils-device and phoneui-utils-feedback WIP Nov 30 19:16:08 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rfc608df21ac7 10/src/phoneui.h.in: Merge branch 'master' of git+ssh://git.shr-project.org/libphone-ui Nov 30 19:17:30 JesusMcCloud, Hardy, mrmoku: PONG Nov 30 19:17:31 :P Nov 30 19:18:39 TAsn: :P ^^ Nov 30 19:19:00 Hardy, it's fixed... Nov 30 19:19:21 just opkg upgrade Nov 30 19:19:48 TAsn: great Nov 30 19:19:51 thanks Nov 30 19:19:54 not my did Nov 30 19:19:59 deed* Nov 30 19:20:09 i know, but thanks for the information ^^ Nov 30 19:20:22 np. Nov 30 19:20:30 you did well ^^ Nov 30 19:20:39 Hey everyone, free thanks over here... :P Nov 30 19:21:03 lol Nov 30 19:21:17 i got a question Nov 30 19:21:25 i made a ringtone, in .wav Nov 30 19:21:28 mrmoku, we bumped e? again? :P Nov 30 19:21:34 Hardy, /usr/share/sounds/ Nov 30 19:21:35 (Aphex Twin - vordhosbn Nov 30 19:21:39 i know Nov 30 19:21:40 and add it from shr-settings :P Nov 30 19:21:40 TAsn: yeah, we got that from org.oe.dev Nov 30 19:21:48 mrmoku, sweet. Nov 30 19:21:59 i know TAsn Nov 30 19:22:00 i'll give out free "you're welcomes" then ... though i didn't do anything either ;p Nov 30 19:22:01 buttt Nov 30 19:22:03 and that bump includes the elm callback changes Nov 30 19:22:08 when i press the play button Nov 30 19:22:12 it wount sound Nov 30 19:22:35 mrmoku, I know. :P (44000-44003) or something like that. Nov 30 19:22:37 :P Nov 30 19:22:50 TAsn: all fine with your phone? got still some year to live? :P Nov 30 19:23:04 I'm sure about the last 3 digits.... Nov 30 19:23:11 mrmoku, yep Nov 30 19:23:21 I even committed two new things in idle_screen Nov 30 19:23:34 :P Nov 30 19:23:43 TAsn: what can i dooooooOO ^^ Nov 30 19:23:48 and I pushed the vibrator sstuff Nov 30 19:23:56 Hardy, I'm still thinking about it :P Nov 30 19:24:03 cool :) Nov 30 19:24:06 mrmoku, yeah, noticed, will look later :P (cool though) Nov 30 19:24:07 Hardy: check if you've got the sound modules loaded Nov 30 19:24:19 mrmoku, exactly what I was about to ask Nov 30 19:24:24 Hardy, do you get any sound at all? Nov 30 19:24:37 i already tried realy uncomprimired wave, it sounds, but it stocks hard ^^ Nov 30 19:24:40 (when *not* playing your ringtone Nov 30 19:24:49 yeah Nov 30 19:24:55 Hardy, just try Nov 30 19:24:57 aplay Nov 30 19:25:02 to see if you get any errors Nov 30 19:25:02 i can play the already existing ringtone Nov 30 19:25:20 try "aplay"ing your file Nov 30 19:25:38 mrmoku: can we add fsomusicd to the feed? Nov 30 19:25:47 TAsn, already solved my problem Nov 30 19:25:47 if it builds sure we should Nov 30 19:26:15 ok, then i will try to use it :) Nov 30 19:26:53 is there a bitsream, which should not be over-thersholded? ^^ Nov 30 19:26:55 Heinervdm: we could even add that to our new feedback stuff... play a random song on every keypress :P Nov 30 19:27:05 mrmoku, TAsn try this gsmhandset (i hope i got it right this way, and tell me if buzz got worse or better, and iv overall sound quali is better) http://pastebin.com/mc6d31a4 Nov 30 19:27:07 :D Nov 30 19:27:23 JesusMcCloud, sorry, but I can't do such testings :P Nov 30 19:27:27 not sane way to do it. Nov 30 19:27:32 never tested it Nov 30 19:27:39 the only feedback i get is from friends saying Nov 30 19:27:50 "WTF is wrong with your fucking phone?!" Nov 30 19:28:03 "call me from a landline I can't get a word you are saying" Nov 30 19:28:03 dos1: ^^^^ Nov 30 19:28:06 or something like that :P Nov 30 19:28:12 * Package libewebkit0 wants to install file /usr/share/webkit-1.0/resources/error.html Nov 30 19:28:12 But that file is already provided by package * libwebkit-1.0-2 Nov 30 19:28:28 TAsn, hmm i got rid of that, but i am not sure i i picked the right statefile to convert this time... Nov 30 19:28:34 * TAsn thinks Sharwin_F upgraded from a very old image. Nov 30 19:28:46 since i accidentally overwrote the one copy i knew was good Nov 30 19:28:48 TAsn, just flashed new image :P Nov 30 19:28:52 TAsn: i saw the problem... sorry man, the Midnight-Commander whows 100% but uploading it instead (ant this very slow) Nov 30 19:28:58 JesusMcCloud, you sent it to ML haven't you? Nov 30 19:29:04 -saw +see Nov 30 19:29:20 TAsn, not yet, woudl like some quick feedback first... Nov 30 19:29:25 Hardy, cool :P (I'm sorry i'm only paying 10% of attention, I'm really tired) Nov 30 19:29:41 JesusMcCloud, i c. Nov 30 19:29:43 since i totally messed up thing the first time Nov 30 19:29:46 well, as I said, I can't provide it Nov 30 19:29:51 got no time to compare to old states Nov 30 19:29:56 and too tired to test now Nov 30 19:29:57 :) Nov 30 19:30:09 TAsn, get some sleep! :-P Nov 30 19:30:16 that's the thing Nov 30 19:30:22 I just woke up after a 1hr nap Nov 30 19:30:29 but still Nov 30 19:30:55 * TAsn wants to take his shotgun (not yet purchased) and shoot himself :P Nov 30 19:30:57 u know doctors say u shoudl get about 8 hours of sleep every day ;) Nov 30 19:31:11 TAsn: I got the same complaints, "you sound like you're next to a sawmill!!" Nov 30 19:31:35 sybren, midn trying the statefile http://pastebin.com/mc6d31a4 ? Nov 30 19:32:05 JesusMcCloud, that's what the say to everyone... Don't believe them. Nov 30 19:32:11 sybren, hehe :P Nov 30 19:32:41 TAsn, they also say smoking causes cancer... i'm wondering if i shoudl be worried... Nov 30 19:32:53 spaetz: thanks a lot for the parcel! arrived today :))) Nov 30 19:32:56 JesusMcCloud: I'll try later, right now I'm half way an update Nov 30 19:33:01 spaetz: i can rename the branch now, if you want Nov 30 19:33:04 k Nov 30 19:33:15 spaetz: then again, it might be better if you just push to shr/foo Nov 30 19:33:17 and i remove the other one Nov 30 19:33:22 TAsn: doesnt matter, the most of my problem solves itself ^^ Nov 30 19:34:13 Hey TAsn, saw you worked further on idle_screen, very nice :) Nov 30 19:34:13 but you added a idle_screen specific error message in the general window_init in window.c Nov 30 19:34:24 Hardy, cool :P Nov 30 19:34:36 JesusMcCloud, exactly... Don't listen to them. :P Nov 30 19:34:50 Slyon, yes, I noticed :( Nov 30 19:35:00 * JesusMcCloud rolls another cigarette Nov 30 19:35:01 it was a bad commit that I reverted (partially) Nov 30 19:35:04 mickeyl: hope you like it. Sorry one bar of "Diabetiker" chocoldae slipped in by accident :) Nov 30 19:35:10 TAsn: yeah saw that Nov 30 19:35:24 spaetz_: hehe, might be even good ;) Nov 30 19:35:27 Slyon, you forgot (or didn't know how) to make it full screen. Nov 30 19:35:28 TAsn: i thought you forgott about the error message Nov 30 19:35:46 I have. Nov 30 19:35:49 hehe Nov 30 19:35:49 (partially) Nov 30 19:35:53 I want the error message Nov 30 19:35:57 just not the text :P Nov 30 19:35:58 TAsn: i thought it would be best to implement it in window.c but didn't want to touch that Nov 30 19:36:01 mickeyl: ok, I'll push to shr/ next time I push Nov 30 19:36:07 Slyon, nah. Nov 30 19:36:08 and we can just remove shr-... Nov 30 19:36:12 window.c is going down. Nov 30 19:36:17 not on my dev box currently Nov 30 19:36:44 spaetz_: righto Nov 30 19:36:50 Slyon, window.c is a bad ugly hack :( Nov 30 19:37:12 :P Nov 30 19:37:15 it'll die soon. Nov 30 19:37:38 TAsn: ah, i see... so every screen will have to init it's own window? Nov 30 19:38:01 TAsn: well actually they do the same now, but with less code Nov 30 19:39:41 Slyon, no, it'll just be rewritten Nov 30 19:39:45 in a sane manner Nov 30 19:39:47 ATM it sucks. Nov 30 19:39:53 no error handling at all Nov 30 19:39:55 no nothing. Nov 30 19:40:09 Slyon, btw, how do you update time in shr-today? Nov 30 19:40:21 from edj? Nov 30 19:40:34 TAsn: no, i do it with a 10 sec timer from python Nov 30 19:40:41 :| Nov 30 19:40:48 :( Nov 30 19:41:09 * TAsn thinks that's a bit ugly :P Nov 30 19:41:24 TAsn: yeah it is really ugly, but don't know how to do it better... Nov 30 19:41:42 is there some sort of signal on time change? Nov 30 19:41:47 no Nov 30 19:41:49 and there won't be Nov 30 19:41:54 as time changes all the time :P Nov 30 19:42:00 thats true :P Nov 30 19:42:23 best way would probably be edj Nov 30 19:42:30 (like the clock widget) Nov 30 19:42:50 though I'll have to see how to do it for the date Nov 30 19:43:43 TAsn: but where does the edje get the data from? Nov 30 19:44:09 i'll look how the clock applet is doing it... Nov 30 19:46:00 cool. :) Nov 30 19:48:18 New image: shr-settings: Postion menu -> blank screen Nov 30 19:48:28 Other->Contacts-> blank screen Nov 30 19:50:01 Sharwin_F: update ;p Nov 30 19:52:00 mrmoku, saw my pm? :P Nov 30 19:52:32 dos1, file_md5sum_alloc: Failed to open file /etc/shr-settings/*: No such file or directory Nov 30 19:52:33 ffs Nov 30 19:52:38 drop that crap from the recipe already Nov 30 19:52:57 as you probably noticed, you can *NOT* use a wildcard when setting CONFFILE Nov 30 19:53:14 check this out, after upgrade: Nov 30 19:53:15 * ERROR: The following packages conflict with openssh: Nov 30 19:53:15 * dropbear * Nov 30 19:53:15 root@om-gta02 ~ $ Nov 30 19:53:20 yeah Nov 30 19:53:34 already noticed hmmh? Nov 30 19:53:35 mrmoku, said this would happen Nov 30 19:53:54 as we dropped openssh and started using dropbear (the other way around, too tired to edit) Nov 30 19:53:56 :P Nov 30 19:54:14 but this failure is actually a good thing Nov 30 19:54:20 are there any conflicts withoud dropbear? Nov 30 19:54:32 it's not a good idea to remove something without letting the user doing it manually Nov 30 19:55:40 * Sharwin_F loves E WSOD Nov 30 19:56:23 oh it seems necesarry Nov 30 19:56:27 mrmoku, * Package dropbear is depended upon by packages: Nov 30 19:56:28 * task-base Nov 30 19:56:44 wth? a bug in opkg or a bug in task-base? :P Nov 30 19:56:46 TAsn: well, that's not my thing in recipe Nov 30 19:56:48 :P Nov 30 19:56:57 I know Ainulindale did it Nov 30 19:57:01 Ainulindale, yeah, I'm blaming you. Nov 30 19:57:05 dos1, I'm just saying, drop it ffs. Nov 30 19:57:10 me too Nov 30 19:57:11 (and add specific files) Nov 30 19:58:38 damn, top shelf is super fast in latest shr-u (091130) Nov 30 19:58:54 TAsn: well, i don't have oe access ;p Nov 30 19:59:18 send a patch... Nov 30 20:00:47 TAsn: bug in opkg Nov 30 20:00:56 sucks ;( Nov 30 20:01:28 guys... let it gone for today Nov 30 20:01:31 you did well ^^ Nov 30 20:01:40 root 2240 2.7 1.5 3668 1908 ? Ss 22:00 0:01 sshd: root@pts/5 Nov 30 20:01:45 have a break and eat some ^^ Nov 30 20:01:48 sshd likes memory. Nov 30 20:01:50 kitkat Nov 30 20:04:25 intone crashes a lot >.< Nov 30 20:06:48 <[Rui]> ok I have my phone laying on the table, and I'm calling from a phone which is, like, free (for two weeks) :) Nov 30 20:06:58 <[Rui]> on the nokia side I hear LOTS of static Nov 30 20:07:06 <[Rui]> it's like I tuned "static" on tv Nov 30 20:08:28 <[Rui]> and every single little noise is loud as hell Nov 30 20:09:22 [Rui]: it helps if you lower the microphone volume a bit Nov 30 20:09:40 <[Rui]> it's MUCH better if I set mic2 to 0 Nov 30 20:09:53 <[Rui]> please not my enphasis on MUCH and ZERO Nov 30 20:09:55 <[Rui]> note Nov 30 20:09:58 :) Nov 30 20:10:27 Sharwin_F, and intone-video doesn't work :| Nov 30 20:10:45 but yeah, I don't recall on usage of intone that didn't result in a crash :P Nov 30 20:10:55 [Rui]: JesusMcCloud is/was working on a new alsa statefile, perhaps you can work with him? Nov 30 20:11:14 [Rui], look at "mono sidetone volume" Nov 30 20:11:17 or something like that Nov 30 20:11:21 turning that to 0 Nov 30 20:11:25 fixed everything for me :P Nov 30 20:11:28 (at least static) Nov 30 20:11:40 which was the only thing I was able to test without calling anyone. Nov 30 20:11:41 <[Rui]> TAsn: I put Mic2 as zero and static was almost gone Nov 30 20:11:43 [Rui], http://pastebin.com/mc6d31a4 Nov 30 20:11:51 try sidetone volume@! Nov 30 20:11:58 ok, I really gtg. Nov 30 20:12:03 ciao all. Nov 30 20:12:04 <[Rui]> will try. Nov 30 20:13:06 cya TAsn Nov 30 20:13:58 <[Rui]> either left pga or right pg can be nicely heard Nov 30 20:14:10 <[Rui]> this on mic sidetone Nov 30 20:16:06 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r19e67b3b1184 10/fsotdld/ (5 files in 4 dirs): fsotdld: bring back provider_gps from fsolocationd Nov 30 20:22:00 TAsn: could i get permissions to push to libphone-ui-shr, or shall i send you a patch for the time thing? Nov 30 20:22:18 Slyon, for permissions Nov 30 20:22:21 ask mrmoku Nov 30 20:22:29 (I don't think there'll be a problem) Nov 30 20:22:36 okay Nov 30 20:22:38 Slyon, btw, please add your contact info to sources (I forgot) Nov 30 20:22:46 will do this now Nov 30 20:22:54 furthermore, don't forget to follow the coding conventions before you commit!!! Nov 30 20:23:01 TAsn: ohh... that reminds me... we should add license and such to the files Nov 30 20:23:16 mrmoku: could i get permissions for libphone-ui-shr? Nov 30 20:23:37 Slyon: just send me your pubkey and access will be granted :) Nov 30 20:23:50 <[Rui]> just called a friend Nov 30 20:24:00 JesusMcCloud: did you have statefiles to be tested? Nov 30 20:24:06 <[Rui]> he agrees that with either Right PGA or Left PGA the sound is ok Nov 30 20:24:06 mrmoku, yep. Nov 30 20:24:14 <[Rui]> better than making mic2 = 0 Nov 30 20:24:28 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: I haven't yet tested your state file Nov 30 20:24:31 [Rui], the problem is you are trying to take stereo data from a mono source? Nov 30 20:24:49 <[Rui]> TAsn: what problem? with right/left PGA? Nov 30 20:24:53 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * raffdcfda1f39 10/fsotdld/src/lib/gpsreceiver.vala: fsotdld: repair config fields; gps receiver plugin is getting NMEA packets again Nov 30 20:24:55 sicu using it atm... will be longer talk Nov 30 20:24:55 <[Rui]> if it sounds better, who cares? Nov 30 20:25:02 JesusMcCloud: default is terrible for me, so i'll gladly test if yours make things better Nov 30 20:25:20 mrmoku, until now it was gpl2 right? (should remain, because although we almost removed all the was, and changed what we left, except for window.c, we still "based" our code on gpl2 and we can't get quickdev's approval) Nov 30 20:25:22 btw, mrmoku Nov 30 20:25:27 sicu, http://pastebin.com/mc6d31a4 Nov 30 20:25:29 it should be lpgl2 (libphone-ui) Nov 30 20:25:35 lgpl2/3 Nov 30 20:25:45 as for modules, I guess gpl2/3 is ok. Nov 30 20:26:00 [Rui], I'm saying exactly the opposite. Nov 30 20:26:08 <[Rui]> oh... Nov 30 20:26:09 [Rui], I'm explaining yor fix. Nov 30 20:26:11 your* Nov 30 20:26:22 (Based on my assumptions, of course) Nov 30 20:26:47 TAsn: yep gpl2 Nov 30 20:26:48 <[Rui]> TAsn: please note that putting mic2 = 0 while using either left or right pga lowered the sound volume Nov 30 20:26:57 NOOO :( Nov 30 20:27:05 actually Nov 30 20:27:12 if I changed EVERYTHING Nov 30 20:27:14 in libphone-ui Nov 30 20:27:22 there's really nothing left from the old code Nov 30 20:27:32 I just did it in steps Nov 30 20:27:41 (each time used less and less of his code) Nov 30 20:27:52 mrmoku: http://pastebin.com/d2a01c93 Nov 30 20:27:52 is it ok to change licensing? Nov 30 20:27:59 as his code doesn't exist there anymore. Nov 30 20:28:14 [Rui], of course, I was talking about l/r pga Nov 30 20:28:30 <[Rui]> how do I dump the statefile? Nov 30 20:28:38 <[Rui]> alsactl store > fubar.state? Nov 30 20:29:12 alsactl -f fubar.state store Nov 30 20:29:24 mrmoku, ^ Nov 30 20:29:29 (what I asked about gpl2) Nov 30 20:29:43 TAsn: There? Nov 30 20:29:50 Ainulindale, yes Nov 30 20:29:56 Ainulindale, what do you think about what I just said? Nov 30 20:29:59 TAsn: Nothing. Just pinging you to piss you off in order to reply to your former comment :-) Nov 30 20:29:59 (licensing) Nov 30 20:30:07 :P Nov 30 20:30:12 Slyon: do you have to clone it? or change an existing checkout? Nov 30 20:30:12 What about GPL2? Nov 30 20:30:15 for a moment there, I felt special. Nov 30 20:30:26 actually Nov 30 20:30:26 if I changed EVERYTHING Nov 30 20:30:26 in libphone-ui Nov 30 20:30:26 there's really nothing left from the old code Nov 30 20:30:26 I just did it in steps Nov 30 20:30:27 (each time used less and less of his code) Nov 30 20:30:29 is it ok to change licensing? Nov 30 20:30:33 sorry about the flood guys :( Nov 30 20:30:48 TAsn: Well supposedly you can't change it for an incompatible license or more restrictive Nov 30 20:30:49 (thought after doing{ Nov 30 20:30:54 And anyway GPL3 is nuts Nov 30 20:30:58 Stay with 2 Nov 30 20:31:01 I was talking about Nov 30 20:31:03 lgpl2 Nov 30 20:31:08 mrmoku: hmm i want to push the changes i did on my local clone Nov 30 20:31:24 <[Rui]> if you remove all oldercode, there's no problem. Nov 30 20:31:29 Slyon: then you have to change the config in .git/config Nov 30 20:31:29 Ainulindale, even if I changed completely everything? Nov 30 20:31:33 sec I'll ask in the gpl chan Nov 30 20:31:37 Well Nov 30 20:31:47 Are you the initial author? Nov 30 20:31:50 If you are you do what you want Nov 30 20:31:57 <[Rui]> Ainulindale: staying with two is not good, if one must use 2, it's better to use 2 or later Nov 30 20:32:04 Slyon: change url to be: Nov 30 20:32:05 url = git+ssh://git@git.shr-project.org/libphone-ui-shr.git Nov 30 20:32:16 [Rui]: 2+ is good enough, just not 3 rawly Nov 30 20:32:32 mrmoku: okay, thats it? Nov 30 20:32:37 yup Nov 30 20:32:39 TAsn: if you can prove everything if different or if you are the initial author, do what you want Nov 30 20:32:40 sweet Nov 30 20:32:42 <[Rui]> Ainulindale: I'm happy to contribute to 2+ code, but I prefer 3+ for anything new Nov 30 20:33:04 Ainulindale, I'm not the original author Nov 30 20:33:09 I'm talking about libphone-ui Nov 30 20:33:20 (which is based on libframeworkd-phonegui) Nov 30 20:33:25 which I HEAVILY modified Nov 30 20:33:30 SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07libphone-ui-shr * r372da5ebe4cd 10/ (data/idle_screen/idle_screen.edc src/view/idle-view.c): move time calculation to edje file Nov 30 20:33:38 changed it so much Nov 30 20:33:40 SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07libphone-ui-shr * rf8dab63a9f7e 10/src/ (util/window.c view/idle-view.c): Merge branch 'master' of http://shr.bearstech.com/repo/libphone-ui-shr Nov 30 20:33:48 :) Nov 30 20:33:54 that a diff between Nov 30 20:34:00 Slyon, always pull before you push... Nov 30 20:34:04 Slyon: looks like it worked :) Nov 30 20:34:05 his code and mine Nov 30 20:34:19 will probably result in everything being different. Nov 30 20:34:23 mine = new stuff Nov 30 20:34:35 TAsn: I did this lib Nov 30 20:34:40 TAsn: and you can change the license Nov 30 20:34:43 not quickdev? :P Nov 30 20:34:44 yay. Nov 30 20:34:49 Initially I did Nov 30 20:34:53 Then quickdev Nov 30 20:34:54 thanks! Nov 30 20:34:57 hmm Nov 30 20:35:07 Ainulindale, mrmoku, lgpl2 it is then? Nov 30 20:35:10 what about lfg Nov 30 20:35:15 libframeworkd-glib ? Nov 30 20:35:17 yup Nov 30 20:35:20 mrmoku, who wrote that? Nov 30 20:35:22 Good for me as well Nov 30 20:35:26 please don't say quickdev Nov 30 20:35:28 Why this change by the way? Nov 30 20:35:30 partly yes Nov 30 20:35:34 Nah I'm the original author as well Nov 30 20:35:40 Check first commits Nov 30 20:35:43 yay :) Nov 30 20:35:50 Ainulindale: but that does not matter, no? Nov 30 20:35:54 Ainulindale, just because mrmoku said we should add licensing info Nov 30 20:36:04 if quickdev added code... you need his permission to change the license Nov 30 20:36:19 <[Rui]> is this that's used? /usr/share/shr/scenarii/gsmhandset.state Nov 30 20:36:21 mrmoku: yep but change it and direct any complaint to me Nov 30 20:36:26 [Rui]: no Nov 30 20:36:27 :P Nov 30 20:36:30 :) Nov 30 20:36:35 As I'm the original author and I'll gladly remove any code non commited by me Nov 30 20:36:38 <[Rui]> mrmoku: which one, then? Nov 30 20:36:46 Ainulindale: nah, hope not mine ;) Nov 30 20:36:51 :-) Nov 30 20:36:55 [Rui]: /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default Nov 30 20:36:59 mrmoku, so lpgl2 for both libphone-ui and lfg Nov 30 20:37:07 TAsn: shall i add my contact info directly in the idle_screen files? or in the AUTHORS file? Nov 30 20:37:07 <[Rui]> oh it changed... no wonder I saw so many differences Nov 30 20:37:10 TAsn: well.... I don't care :P Nov 30 20:37:18 I just think there should be any license in it Nov 30 20:37:20 and as for libphone-ui-shr, I'd also like having lgpl2 Nov 30 20:37:29 Slyon, both. Nov 30 20:37:33 k Nov 30 20:37:34 that is probably more problematic Nov 30 20:37:36 Slyon, actually Nov 30 20:37:41 <[Rui]> wow it's even worse in terms of differences Nov 30 20:37:47 Slyon, wait with the addition to idle_screen Nov 30 20:37:56 we'll put the licensing format first Nov 30 20:37:57 ... Nov 30 20:37:58 TAsn: efl was quickdevs baby Nov 30 20:38:04 and there is still lots of code left Nov 30 20:38:10 mrmoku, ok, so just leave that gpl2 Nov 30 20:38:13 atm Nov 30 20:38:18 <[Rui]> how does one get that format? Nov 30 20:38:25 no problem about that. Nov 30 20:38:33 the main issue is with libphone-ui and lfg Nov 30 20:39:00 which is ok if used by non gpl applications Nov 30 20:39:31 what about dbus interface? does this mean phonefsod and phoneuid should also be lgpl2? Nov 30 20:39:37 or can we make them gpl2? Nov 30 20:40:04 phoneuid is completely new Nov 30 20:40:10 mrmoku, I know. Nov 30 20:40:12 we can do what we want with it Nov 30 20:40:12 I'm saying Nov 30 20:40:13 should we? Nov 30 20:40:21 (concerning apps using it) Nov 30 20:40:33 TAsn, dbus api license agnostic Nov 30 20:40:37 TAsn: dbus is most definitely a license barrier Nov 30 20:40:39 max_posedon, cool :P Nov 30 20:40:40 fwiw, my tendency is towards (l)gpl2(.1) as well Nov 30 20:40:47 SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07libphone-ui-shr * r5ad3c54cf1dd 10/AUTHORS: add myself to the AUTHORS file Nov 30 20:41:08 <[Rui]> mrmoku: I really have to go, how can I get the dump-style format ? Nov 30 20:41:30 [Rui]: with TAsn's script Nov 30 20:41:41 <[Rui]> damn... Nov 30 20:41:44 <[Rui]> TAsn: what script? Nov 30 20:41:46 <[Rui]> :) Nov 30 20:41:55 guys, I just upgraded and now I can't get to the wifi on/off switch. When I run "shr-settings xxx shr_wifi.Wifi" I get "Module shr_wifi.Wifi can't be loaded!" Nov 30 20:41:57 MR Nov 30 20:41:58 ML* Nov 30 20:41:59 <[Rui]> the sound is *SO* good that I want to save it right away! Nov 30 20:42:14 sicu, call finished, did u try the statefile? Nov 30 20:42:15 [Rui]: maybe LoadScenario... change stuff... SaveScenario work too Nov 30 20:42:16 [Rui], and don't forget to reply with you sound state. Nov 30 20:42:31 sybren: just upgraded? Nov 30 20:42:31 <[Rui]> TAsn: did you just sent it? Nov 30 20:42:36 sybren: maybe try again :P Nov 30 20:42:38 * mickeyl raises an eyebrow on the "maybe" Nov 30 20:42:41 dos1: lol ok :) Nov 30 20:42:48 except that I need wifi for that... Nov 30 20:42:49 [Rui], yesterday, or even before. Nov 30 20:42:50 there was really recently fix on callbacks Nov 30 20:42:55 sybren: so use fsoraw Nov 30 20:43:01 fsoraw -r WiFi -- more Nov 30 20:43:03 ;) Nov 30 20:43:04 aaah good idea Nov 30 20:43:09 <[Rui]> damn I can't find it now Nov 30 20:43:20 <[Rui]> will look for it later on I gotta go Nov 30 20:44:12 JaMa: if I want to rebuild the 2.6.31 kernel... do the linux-headers hit me there too? Nov 30 20:44:50 Rui|dinning: http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2009-November/002497.html Nov 30 20:45:04 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * r8405a1f82a15 10/AUTHORS: updated the AUTHORS file Nov 30 20:46:10 spaetz_: 6560 tasks to testing :P Nov 30 20:47:25 JesusMcCloud: had a long phonecall myself, so havn't tested yet Nov 30 20:47:37 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * rd123205d0a45 10/AUTHORS: updated AUTHORS Nov 30 20:48:12 JesusMcCloud: which file do i replace?, /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset Nov 30 20:48:29 shr switching dropbear -> openssh? Nov 30 20:48:53 sicu, yup Nov 30 20:49:28 sybren, and thanks god for that. Nov 30 20:49:57 TAsn: good :) I never liked dropbear Nov 30 20:50:06 I was ok with it. Nov 30 20:50:50 root 2430 8.0 1.5 3668 1904 ? Ss 22:50 0:01 sshd: root@pts/3 Nov 30 20:51:00 can someone that didn't yet upgrade to openssh Nov 30 20:51:10 please ssh into his moko Nov 30 20:51:13 and give me the output of Nov 30 20:51:19 ps aux | grep dropbear Nov 30 20:51:20 ? Nov 30 20:51:30 1.5% of ram by openssh :( Nov 30 20:52:04 bbl Nov 30 20:52:25 dos1: you should add /etc/freesmartphone/alsa to the backup whitelist :) Nov 30 20:58:09 TAsn: root 1696 4.8 0.7 2192 884 ? SNs 21:56 0:02 dropbear Nov 30 20:58:46 lol? Nov 30 20:58:58 Slyon, thanks btw. Nov 30 20:59:10 mrmoku: probably not that much.. but maybe you have to rebuild eglibc, maybe gcc too Nov 30 20:59:10 0.7 vs 1.5? Nov 30 20:59:12 twice :( Nov 30 20:59:16 yeah.. Nov 30 20:59:24 mrmoku: so its almost all in virtual/kernel :/ Nov 30 20:59:45 mickeyl, found the paper you wrote your opimd_redesign response on? :P Nov 30 21:00:08 "Installing apm (3.2.2-r11.01.4) to root..." -- but that conflicts with fso-apm Nov 30 21:00:08 mrmoku: but I don't remember rebuilding anything as low as kernel in dependency tree except eglibc and gcc Nov 30 21:00:43 that's after a "opkg update" a minute ago Nov 30 21:00:58 I get that error during "opkg upgrade" Nov 30 21:01:27 JaMa: hmm... I can also rebuild from scratch... what do you think? Nov 30 21:01:58 now for real Nov 30 21:02:00 cya. Nov 30 21:02:07 TAsn: bye! Nov 30 21:02:43 bye Nov 30 21:03:02 mickeyl, ^ ? Nov 30 21:04:05 TAsn: no, i'm afraid it's lost. then again, i didn't add much beside what i already told Nov 30 21:04:27 the thing i'm wondering though Nov 30 21:04:35 mrmoku: yes rebuild from scratch.. easier and not so long for kernel Nov 30 21:04:41 hmm, no scratch that Nov 30 21:05:18 mickeyl, ok, so you generally agree, except for the fact you want to keep the current Query iface, but you agree that a simple one is needed? Nov 30 21:05:20 JaMa: ok, thanks Nov 30 21:05:31 DocScrutinizer-8, kickban linkmauve_ please :) Nov 30 21:05:40 TAsn: yes, i agree. there is both a need for an OO and a procedural interface Nov 30 21:05:48 great :) Nov 30 21:05:55 and what about the more important parts? Nov 30 21:06:02 (the type handling Nov 30 21:06:03 the fields? Nov 30 21:06:19 *help* I can't upgrade because task-base-apm depends on apm, and opkg installs the apm package instead of just keeping fso-apm, and then the install of apm conflicts with fso-apm... :( Nov 30 21:06:20 i.e storing type for a whole column Nov 30 21:06:24 not prefixing per field Nov 30 21:06:42 mrmoku: 6000 tasks? oh my:-) Nov 30 21:06:42 having another opimd table, called types Nov 30 21:06:42 that the user of the API Nov 30 21:06:42 will be able to add a type and remove a type Nov 30 21:06:42 i.e Nov 30 21:06:47 Add "Phone" "telehpnoe number" Nov 30 21:06:57 Add "Cellphone" "telephone number" Nov 30 21:07:03 Add "Email" email address" Nov 30 21:07:14 that all makes sense to me, as long as you watch out to make it not übergeneric Nov 30 21:07:26 mickeyl, of course. Nov 30 21:07:34 mickeyl, this way Nov 30 21:07:41 querying opimd will be WAY faster Nov 30 21:07:49 atm opimd has to search and work on Nov 30 21:07:52 every field of the db Nov 30 21:07:55 onen|openBmap: i have some questions, will you be here later? Nov 30 21:07:59 because of the URI prefixes Nov 30 21:08:05 and using the API is also insane. Nov 30 21:08:06 :( Nov 30 21:08:07 mickeyl: hallo! Nov 30 21:08:08 those URI prefixes are dumb Nov 30 21:08:13 i know their history Nov 30 21:08:15 mickeyl, THANK GOD FOR THAT. Nov 30 21:08:16 no comment... Nov 30 21:08:21 dos1, those URI prefixes are dumb Nov 30 21:08:23 :) Nov 30 21:08:33 shouldn't be there in the first place Nov 30 21:08:37 mickeyl, I agree. Nov 30 21:08:47 mickeyl: well in fact I don't think I will stay much later... when and for how long? Nov 30 21:08:47 but someone insisted and back then i didn't watch the project close enough to veto Nov 30 21:08:54 mickeyl, ok, don't worry, it'll be generic and cool :P Nov 30 21:08:58 onen|openBmap: 1.5h? Nov 30 21:09:02 and more importantly, sane. Nov 30 21:09:06 onen|openBmap: we can do it antoher day Nov 30 21:09:19 just wanted to know some things about current state of openbmap, the locator, etc. Nov 30 21:09:25 with regards to my new fsotdld Nov 30 21:09:32 i might as well write a mail :) Nov 30 21:09:38 mickeyl, ok, so we got your blessing to implement the new opimd? (with dos of course) Nov 30 21:09:38 need to move to Sabine now :) Nov 30 21:10:16 TAsn: yes, definitely. I think it's a crucial part to SHR's future Nov 30 21:10:28 :) Nov 30 21:10:32 mickeyl, I agree. Nov 30 21:10:33 and i would not feel good with reimplementing it in a compiled language until we're 110% safe that it's a good API Nov 30 21:10:40 mickeyl: if you don't mind, yes I would prefer another day. This way, I won't be in the hurry to answer your questions. Besides, you may be interested in having Nick in the discussion too, as he does the server side things, don't you? Nov 30 21:10:43 so that has to be done first Nov 30 21:10:43 mickeyl, Yay :P Nov 30 21:10:48 onen|openBmap: true Nov 30 21:10:55 oki, l8er Nov 30 21:11:00 dos1, I'm sorry :P But *we* have some work to do Nov 30 21:11:07 (yes, I'll help...) Nov 30 21:11:09 :) Nov 30 21:11:18 TAsn: I'll work on "new opimd", don't worry Nov 30 21:11:21 dos1, will be here tomorrow at night? Nov 30 21:11:29 i just feel bad in inventing specs Nov 30 21:11:30 (to discuss and design) Nov 30 21:11:51 dos1, well, we got mickey|bbl's blessing to design it in the spirit of opimd_redesign. Nov 30 21:12:10 TAsn: ok, i'll try to be there Nov 30 21:12:10 ;] Nov 30 21:12:15 but now i have to go Nov 30 21:12:27 good night Nov 30 21:12:27 and it'll not work ;) Nov 30 21:12:27 dos1, same here. Nov 30 21:12:29 (had to go a couple of hours ago) Nov 30 21:12:29 i know that ;) Nov 30 21:29:56 does anything need to be restarted for new alsa statefiles to be used? Nov 30 21:30:20 don't think so Nov 30 21:30:42 current fsodeviced is picking them up automatically even for the current scenario Nov 30 21:33:10 do we have modified staate files? Nov 30 21:34:44 i was testing JesusMcCloud|afk 's state file, though seems something is off about it as i hear nothing and neither does the person i called Nov 30 21:35:02 ahh, k Nov 30 21:35:16 sicu, damn not again Nov 30 21:35:41 sicu, wait a sec Nov 30 21:35:42 weird how the right ones seem to be different for everyone Nov 30 21:35:49 JesusMcCloud: afraid so, unless i messed something up Nov 30 21:36:29 spaetz, not that different, as i like to say i "hab einen kapitalen bock geschossen" Nov 30 21:36:44 spaetz, not that weird Nov 30 21:36:47 we got different hw Nov 30 21:36:52 a5-a7 Nov 30 21:37:01 buzz/bass/foo fixed Nov 30 21:37:19 JesusMcCloud, hehe Nov 30 21:37:23 TAsn, sure but it cant be that you hear NOTGINH when i have the slider at 100% Nov 30 21:37:38 of course. Nov 30 21:37:53 TAsn, true. so we need different sets of state files Nov 30 21:37:57 TAsn, the currently active satefile during call is saved under /etc/fre.../asla/dafault/gsmhandset, right? Nov 30 21:38:05 yes. Nov 30 21:38:13 spaetz, first we need to find state files that work :P Nov 30 21:38:15 rather than trying to optimize one for all Nov 30 21:38:52 i stopped trying to understand them Nov 30 21:38:54 spaetz, TAsn, sicu i had the same problem with nothign hearing with my previous statefile, so the is something wrong... Nov 30 21:39:37 doc can say what he wants. the audio thing is immensely complex Nov 30 21:40:12 sicu, http://pastebin.com/m4aa6d90d Nov 30 21:40:45 TAsn: as you don't want to study... got to discuss something :P Nov 30 21:40:48 regarding libphone-ui Nov 30 21:41:29 JesusMcCloud: ok, will test Nov 30 21:42:33 we got devices with different mic sensitivity. And we got devices with different earpiece volume. Both is not related 1:1 to any fix or hw-revision. For both there's exactly ONE control to adjust audio to peculiarities of a particular device - and it happens these are exactly the two sliders TAsn implemented for volume control in dialer Nov 30 21:42:59 so *NO* *NEED* for hw-revision specific alsa states Nov 30 21:43:09 :P Nov 30 21:43:16 * TAsn is going away, he's afraid of DocScrutinizer Nov 30 21:43:36 TAsn, so if i am in call, and the statefile work, and i change mic level and change it back during call, then it overwrites /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset is it? because i just did that and poste exacly that statefile Nov 30 21:43:40 hehe Nov 30 21:44:14 JesusMcCloud, yes Nov 30 21:44:20 it auto-updates that. Nov 30 21:44:36 TAsn, so this statefile _has_ to be the right one?! Nov 30 21:44:46 no Nov 30 21:44:58 only volume changed on that state file Nov 30 21:45:01 if you changed anything else Nov 30 21:45:15 TAsn, i'll start all over again: Nov 30 21:45:16 you should call (with mdbus) Nov 30 21:45:21 ScenarioSave Nov 30 21:45:28 but if it´s so easy, how come that still nobody seems to have foound a good one? Nov 30 21:45:31 just call ScenarioSave to amke sure. Nov 30 21:45:59 there´s a 100 controls, it is confusing... Nov 30 21:46:24 i used your script, then copied the statefile int fso alsa dir, then i adjusted mic volume so the statefile Nov 30 21:47:21 TAsn, so i place call and while still in call i use SaveScenario Nov 30 21:47:56 yes. Nov 30 21:48:01 if you just change volume Nov 30 21:48:10 no need to call that. Nov 30 21:48:25 i used custom statefile, then adjusted micvoluem while in call Nov 30 21:48:27 but if you change anything else... Nov 30 21:48:34 custom fsodeviced state file? Nov 30 21:48:42 if so, you don't need to call savescenario Nov 30 21:48:58 TAsn, custom statefiled converted using your script Nov 30 21:49:15 ok Nov 30 21:49:19 so if while in a call Nov 30 21:49:26 you didn't change anything but volume Nov 30 21:49:26 tehn adjusted volume whiel in call during sliders in in-call-screen Nov 30 21:49:30 you are good to go. Nov 30 21:50:12 JesusMcCloud: did you have volume at 0 in that last statefile? Nov 30 21:50:51 sicu, does it work now? no that last statefile seemed to be the wrong one Nov 30 21:52:20 well, the ui volume bar was at 0 after loading the last file, but after cranking it up, the person i called said there was no buzz or echo Nov 30 21:52:52 sicu, the very latest statefiel i posted... that oen had volum at zero? Nov 30 21:53:29 JesusMcCloud: using the very latest one you posted now, and it seems to work very well Nov 30 21:53:57 sicu, so did you have to tune volume? Nov 30 21:54:02 no idea why it set volume to zero in the ui, as the statefile obviously doesnt :/ Nov 30 21:54:34 * JesusMcCloud reboots phone to make sure it worked Nov 30 21:55:43 JesusMcCloud: after reboot everything is wrong again, nobody hears anything :/ Nov 30 21:55:54 and volume is at zero Nov 30 21:56:35 i got one question: i disabled shr-today. i added a new keybinding to aux key: Desktop Simple Lock, but somehow it does not get picked up correctly: only after i enter the keybingid settings dialog an klick ok it works.. anyone any ideas? Nov 30 21:56:52 cranking up volume does not change things, but sliding/enabling speaker and back again brings back the sound Nov 30 21:57:06 sicu, i just rebooted... i'll check as soon as gsm is ready... Nov 30 21:57:07 should i put my navit configs into file or files/shr? Nov 30 21:57:45 sicu, maybe we found a bug (maybe it TAsn's skript :-P) Nov 30 21:58:16 JesusMcCloud, I seriously doubt it. Nov 30 21:58:22 but maybe :P Nov 30 21:58:28 TAsn, than how can you explan this behavior? Nov 30 21:58:45 JesusMcCloud, please do the following: Nov 30 21:58:56 send me your state (that you converted using my script) Nov 30 21:59:02 TAsn, same promlem here that sicu has Nov 30 21:59:14 and your fsodeviced state Nov 30 21:59:19 I'll test that tmorrow. Nov 30 21:59:31 TAsn, ok will do so Nov 30 21:59:42 well, i'm too tired to mess about with statefiles atm, so i'll hit the sack and start afresh tomorrow Nov 30 21:59:45 know my email, right? Nov 30 22:00:04 JesusMcCloud: thanks for your help though, and let me know if you figure things out =] Nov 30 22:00:08 but now i have to find a way how to keep my phone usable (i must nver ever reboot again) Nov 30 22:02:42 what the crap? i just replacd the contets of the statefile with the contents that worked befor reboot and it is still nto working! Nov 30 22:05:22 TAsn, i noticed sth: Nov 30 22:05:32 might interest you Nov 30 22:05:38 yeh, i tried to replace it with the default statefile, and it was still all messed up Nov 30 22:05:40 (yes i got ur mail) Nov 30 22:06:17 sicu, exactly, now i used the sliders... then i replaced the statefile with the one i posted, and nothign changed... Nov 30 22:08:02 TAsn, sicu, now i erased all the contents of the statefile and still nothing changes... i can change volume, hang up, but the file is stil empty AND the changes to the volume are remembered when i place anotehr call after that! sth might be wrong here... Nov 30 22:10:12 yeh, seems so Nov 30 22:10:30 JesusMcCloud: btw, what hw revision is your FR? Nov 30 22:11:47 a5 Nov 30 22:13:02 a5 here too Nov 30 22:13:55 well, i'm really off now. will read backlog tomorrow to see if you had any progress with this Nov 30 22:18:26 i'll go aswell and email TA5N Nov 30 22:19:26 hehe Nov 30 22:19:27 :P Nov 30 22:19:35 thanks for trying not to beep :P Nov 30 22:31:25 TAsn, but u just sent mail, so i am goign to annoy you now Nov 30 22:32:04 so i figured out a way to make it sitck: Nov 30 22:33:02 srw false alarm, i just tricked my brain... Nov 30 22:33:30 i'll send the statefiles by tomorrow, gn8 all Nov 30 22:39:47 night Nov 30 22:42:47 yep, time to sleep :) Nov 30 22:42:55 gnight Nov 30 23:17:14 hrm. any reason there's no /sbin/wpa_action in SHR's wpa-supplicant package? Nov 30 23:36:35 fsoraw segfaults Dec 01 00:19:48 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r225038d1bb85 10/fsotdld/src/plugins/ (provider_gps/plugin.vala provider_gps_nmea/plugin.vala): fsotdld: provider_gps_nmea: parse GPZDA Dec 01 00:56:31 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r07d681e0a270 10/fsousaged/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fsousaged: log package version on startup **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 01 02:59:58 2009