**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 11 02:59:56 2009
Dec 11 05:19:53 <Spaetz-> it would be good if people filed issues on things like autosuspending when usb pplugged in...
Dec 11 07:30:35 <spaetz> morning
Dec 11 07:30:45 <Q-Master> morning
Dec 11 07:31:52 <JaMa> moin
Dec 11 07:50:01 <JaMa> spaetz: mrmoku: please run task-shr-feed on buildhost.. at least shr-launcher and e-tasks should compile now
Dec 11 07:51:16 <spaetz> will do
Dec 11 07:52:35 <JaMa> thanks
Dec 11 08:12:15 <parilo> Hi, all! I have: install: cannot stat `arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-strip': No such file or directory in some log.do_install.... file. why oe cannot fid it?
Dec 11 08:13:05 <JaMa> parilo: which recipe?
Dec 11 08:13:28 <JaMa> parilo: I'm not sure but strip shouldn't be called from do_install anymore..
Dec 11 08:14:07 <JaMa> parilo: it should be handled by do_package after moving unstripped libs to -dbg package
Dec 11 08:15:28 <parilo> JaMa: it's new recipe I created. http://pastebin.ca/1710714
Dec 11 08:16:24 <parilo> JaMa: what should I add to recipe to move unstripped libs?
Dec 11 08:16:34 <JaMa> parilo: and it has "install -s" somewhere in Makefile..
Dec 11 08:16:38 <JaMa> probably
Dec 11 08:16:53 <JaMa> parilo: nothing its done by bitbake automatically
Dec 11 08:17:21 <JaMa> parilo: but Makefile(.am) sometimes needs patch for not stripping (removing -s in install call)
Dec 11 08:18:28 <JaMa> parilo: and your do_compile seems strange to me.. try to remove it.. I guess that inherit autotools does run make quite the same
Dec 11 08:19:24 <JaMa> parilo: and I'm not sure what make config does.. and haven't downloaded the sources.. if it just calls autoconf/automake and then configure than again inherit autotools should be enough
Dec 11 08:21:34 <parilo> JaMa: this sources don't contain configure script. It's small sources, so developers wrote in INSTALL file that "make config" should be invoked
Dec 11 08:23:06 <JaMa> parilo: isn't it recipes/linux-input/linux-input_cvs.bb ?
Dec 11 08:26:18 <parilo> JaMa: no
Dec 11 08:28:58 <JaMa> spaetz: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/378155/ :/
Dec 11 08:29:25 <JaMa> spaetz: I did -c clean for gcc*4.4.2*bb and eglibc*2.10*bb yesterday.. then it worked ok
Dec 11 08:30:30 <spaetz> :-(
Dec 11 08:32:26 <spaetz> JaMa: this is the end of config.log
Dec 11 08:32:27 <spaetz> http://dpaste.com/131956/
Dec 11 08:33:08 <spaetz> I know that it also compiled on my recent ubuntu here
Dec 11 08:33:09 <JaMa> spaetz: that short?
Dec 11 08:33:18 <spaetz> no, it's just the last few lines
Dec 11 08:33:22 <JaMa> spaetz: I had much longer config.log
Dec 11 08:33:25 <spaetz> do you want the whole thing?
Dec 11 08:33:45 <JaMa> yes.. there is something about missing stdio.h somewhere in that log right?
Dec 11 08:33:59 <spaetz> http://build.shr-project.org/tests/spaetz/config.log
Dec 11 08:34:22 <JaMa> /home/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/cross/armv4t/lib/gcc/arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/4.4.2/include-fixed/limits.h:122:61: error: limits.h: No such file or directory
Dec 11 08:34:27 <JaMa> is the error..
Dec 11 08:35:02 <spaetz> conftest.c:10:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
Dec 11 08:35:02 <spaetz> conftest.c:11:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
Dec 11 08:35:02 <JaMa> please call those -c clean if you have to do something else.. and it should compile fine.. but it will take some more time to build whole gcc again
Dec 11 08:35:03 <spaetz> conftest.c:12:22: error: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory
Dec 11 08:35:20 <spaetz> clean what? gcc?
Dec 11 08:35:28 <JaMa> 09:29:23 < JaMa> spaetz: I did -c clean for gcc*4.4.2*bb and eglibc*2.10*bb yesterday.. then it worked ok
Dec 11 08:35:29 <spaetz> I don't have much time today
Dec 11 08:35:33 <spaetz> ahh, iwll do
Dec 11 08:35:41 <JaMa> its just oneliner..
Dec 11 08:35:50 <JaMa> mmt I'll check history
Dec 11 08:37:09 <JaMa> for i in recipes/gcc/gcc*4.4.2*bb recipes/eglibc/eglibc*2.10*.bb; do echo $i; bitbake -c clean -b $i; done; bitbake -k task-shr-feed
Dec 11 08:40:20 <spaetz> running
Dec 11 08:42:01 <JaMa> thanks
Dec 11 08:45:36 <parilo> JaMa: it installs now. thanks ^)
Dec 11 10:50:10 <spaetz> JaMa: compile finished
Dec 11 10:55:45 <Q-Master> spaetz: "warning: cairo.h: No such file or directory" why the hell? it is there.
Dec 11 11:00:43 <lindi-> Q-Master: strace?
Dec 11 11:01:00 <Heinervdm> Q-Master: look at the path of the includes, are they correct?
Dec 11 11:01:03 <Q-Master> lindi-: logs of compilation by bb
Dec 11 11:01:36 <Q-Master> Heinervdm: no idea. 
Dec 11 11:03:56 <Q-Master> it is finding all gtk stuff, but gtk in it's includes can't find cairo. but it is there.
Dec 11 11:04:04 <Heinervdm> Q-Master: i had includes that looked like ${STAGING_INCDIR}${STAGING_INCDIR_NATIVE} yesterday
Dec 11 11:14:24 <Q-Master> updating
Dec 11 11:18:18 <gonzoism> where are the default icons, by default ?
Dec 11 11:20:58 <F4t> ok, does mokonnect work for anyone? :)
Dec 11 11:21:00 <gonzoism> i mean, the icon entries in /usr/share/applications/ refer to an icon, but obviously the path is set already.
Dec 11 11:21:20 <gonzoism> F4t: i can get it to connect to my open AP.
Dec 11 11:21:21 <F4t> i just had time to fiddle with the phone, and it seems it doesnt work... at all
Dec 11 11:21:36 <F4t> gonzoism, thanks...
Dec 11 11:21:43 <F4t> i need to work on it a bit... :)
Dec 11 11:21:45 <gonzoism> F4t: mostly, i use iwconfig and udhcpc
Dec 11 11:35:33 <spaetz> F4t: mokonnect works fine for my WEP WLAN
Dec 11 11:35:59 <F4t> well it doesnt work so well for my wpa one
Dec 11 11:36:18 <spaetz> mmh :-(. But mine is easy: no hidden SSID and simply WEP
Dec 11 11:36:40 <spaetz> connman can be a pain, it seems
Dec 11 11:37:02 <F4t> ye :-/
Dec 11 11:37:06 <spaetz> let us know if you want to use something else :-).
Dec 11 11:37:32 <spaetz> I think mokonnect is the only user of connman on SHR, and nobody else in OpenEmbedded seems to care about connman.
Dec 11 11:38:27 <spaetz> JaMa: eglibc fails, even after your purgin, it seems
Dec 11 11:40:31 <F4t> spaetz, gonzoism, how often do yo manually need to run udhcpc later?
Dec 11 11:41:55 <spaetz> I don't need to run udhcpc. It seems to be quite stable. When I manually turn on the WLAN via SetResourcePolicy, it takes a while until it is active though, and the first udhcpc sometimes fails (not using connman or mokonnect)
Dec 11 11:42:46 <spaetz> I mean after mokonnect establishes the WLAN, I don't need to run udhcpc afterwards
Dec 11 11:44:40 <JaMa> spaetz: looks ok http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builds/45010/
Dec 11 11:44:55 <JaMa> spaetz: but e-tasks and shr-launcher failed.. did you update git repo before build?
Dec 11 11:45:12 <F4t> spaetz, if its succesfull, it sometimes timeout on udhcpc and says it failed, but the wifi icon does appear at the top....
Dec 11 11:45:14 <JaMa> I'll recheck if I pushed it, but iirc yes
Dec 11 11:45:25 <spaetz> I just tried to build an app on buildhost (orrery) and that tried to builde glibc which failed.
Dec 11 11:45:28 <spaetz> let me check
Dec 11 11:45:55 <spaetz> http://tinderbox.openembedded.org/builds/45013/
Dec 11 11:45:57 <spaetz> yep
Dec 11 11:46:31 <spaetz> retrying
Dec 11 11:48:10 <spaetz> eglibc failed in configure stage
Dec 11 11:48:17 <spaetz> please advice :-)
Dec 11 11:49:24 <JaMa> spaetz: you purged it in testing...
Dec 11 11:49:32 <JaMa> spaetz: do the same for shr/merge
Dec 11 11:50:22 <JaMa> spaetz: that's probably why e-tasks,shr-launcher failed in http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builds/45010/
Dec 11 11:50:26 <JaMa> because its from testing
Dec 11 11:50:47 <spaetz> purging in shr-unstable
Dec 11 11:51:02 <spaetz> did I really mix that up? weird
Dec 11 11:51:04 <spaetz> retry
Dec 11 11:52:38 <JaMa> testing2009 was rebuilding eglibc/gcc in the morning so I guess so..
Dec 11 11:52:49 <gonzoism> what is the command to identify my gsm chip ?  i have mickeyterm.
Dec 11 11:52:59 <JaMa> and also task-shr-feed build was from testing2009, at least tinderbox says so
Dec 11 11:53:11 <spaetz> well, then I likely mixed things up :)
Dec 11 11:53:16 <spaetz> It's recompiling now
Dec 11 11:54:01 <mickey|office> gonzoism: +CGMR
Dec 11 11:54:07 <gonzoism> thanks
Dec 11 11:54:49 <gonzoism> mickey|office: it only says ok.
Dec 11 11:54:59 <mickey|office> reissue
Dec 11 11:55:02 <mickey|office> might have been asleep
Dec 11 11:55:10 <mickey|office> don't forget the AT prefix
Dec 11 11:55:19 <gonzoism> ok
Dec 11 11:55:41 <gonzoism> thanks mickey|office
Dec 11 12:31:59 <gonzoism> i'm using the recent testing image, the phone won't power off or suspend.  also, when i use the slider to turn on wifi, shr-settings freezes.  should I switch to shr-unstable and try to get debug info from it or stay with the testing image and try to debug from there ?
Dec 11 12:40:25 <gonzoism> i was getting the same problem from the dec. 5 shr-unstable full image
Dec 11 12:40:27 <Q-Master> opppppppppppppppppppppppa
Dec 11 12:40:32 <Q-Master> BSOD
Dec 11 12:41:28 <gonzoism> when shutting down, it freezes after saying: Deconfiguring network interfaces
Dec 11 12:42:30 <gonzoism> so i hold the power button for 8 seconds....
Dec 11 13:00:39 <spaetzAway> gonzoism: well, some debug logs for shr-testing would be nice
Dec 11 13:01:03 <spaetzAway> eg what happens when you do "poweroff" in vala-terminal?
Dec 11 13:06:58 <gonzoism> it goes to the kernel tty
Dec 11 13:07:31 <gonzoism> and freezes on the Deconfiguring network interfaces         message
Dec 11 13:09:55 <gonzoism> spaetzAway: that isn't the poweroff command i issued.  sorry.  it was the reboot command
Dec 11 13:18:41 <gonzoism> i called my neo and the little green monster doesn't show up on the call screen.  i hung up before answering it on the neo, and the screen just stayed there.  i clicked Accept, and it doesn't have a green monster on the screen.  i click Release and it isn't doing anything.
Dec 11 13:19:14 <gonzoism> i set logging to debug in /etc/framework.conf
Dec 11 13:21:16 <gonzoism>  /s/framework.conf/frameworkd.conf
Dec 11 13:23:09 <gonzoism> setting deep sleep to always seems to be causing this, as i can set it back to never and it doesn't happen
Dec 11 13:23:50 <pbaxter> hi all
Dec 11 13:23:59 <gonzoism> hello
Dec 11 13:26:27 <gonzoism> and still, in connectivity screen of shr-settings, the slider for wifi Automatic freezes for minutes, and then i must Quit the screen and choose Connectivity again to slide wifi to ON. then it freezes for minutes again.
Dec 11 13:27:40 <gonzoism> uptime shows a system load of 4.16
Dec 11 13:27:54 <gonzoism> for the minute
Dec 11 13:28:18 <gonzoism> as well as for the 15 minutes
Dec 11 13:30:59 <gonzoism> anyways, thought ya'll would be interested.  I'll go to trac and fill out a ticket after gathering up more information.
Dec 11 13:32:46 <gonzoism> seems to be reproducible by setting deep sleep to always in /etc/frameworkd.conf and rebooting.  also while this is going on, calls don't get through.
Dec 11 13:41:30 <spaetzAway> JaMa: eglibc failed...
Dec 11 13:47:14 <JaMa> spaetzAway: buts in do_package.. I cannot see log.. and probably something else now.. I didn't see that one here..
Dec 11 13:47:32 <JaMa> s/buts/but it is/
Dec 11 13:47:33 <apt> JaMa meant: spaetzAway: but it is in do_package.. I cannot see log.. and probably something else now.. I didn't see that one here..
Dec 11 13:49:32 <spaetzAway> JaMa: http://pastey.net/130132
Dec 11 13:50:02 <spaetzAway> simply retrying now
Dec 11 13:50:43 <JaMa> spaetzAway: ah I'm not building ar_TN locale :)
Dec 11 13:50:55 <JaMa> spaetzAway: can you run that command which failed?
Dec 11 13:51:04 <spaetzAway> gonzoism: ahh, deep sleep. There seem to be some issues with that. Sorry don't know anything about that
Dec 11 13:51:51 <JaMa> I guess that something is just missing wrong for that locale (then you can just limit list of locales a bit, or something is wrong on buildhost for all locales which needs a bit more digging
Dec 11 13:52:19 <spaetzAway> I just ran that command in /tmp
Dec 11 13:52:28 <spaetzAway> and it completed without an error message
Dec 11 13:52:48 <JaMa> hmm ie --inputfile seems wrong..
Dec 11 13:52:57 <JaMa> and exist status #?
Dec 11 13:53:04 <spaetzAway> seems to be 0
Dec 11 13:53:44 <spaetzAway> but that is the return value of the qemu command
Dec 11 13:53:50 <JaMa> then I have no idea.. 
Dec 11 13:54:00 <JaMa> you can try to rerun .. who knows :)
Dec 11 13:54:00 <spaetzAway> or not?
Dec 11 13:54:10 <spaetzAway> I am rerunning, let's see
Dec 11 13:54:21 * spaetzAway hates locales
Dec 11 13:54:34 * JaMa builds just 2 of hated locales :)
Dec 11 13:54:39 <spaetzAway> :)
Dec 11 13:54:48 <spaetzAway> back to work, later
Dec 11 13:54:57 * JaMa too, 
Dec 11 13:57:17 <gonzoism> how do you end up with bad crc checksums in jffs2 ?
Dec 11 13:59:02 <gonzoism> i'll google and search for the answer later.  thanks yall
Dec 11 15:01:53 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, ping
Dec 11 15:03:04 <JesusMcCloud> anyone else here who might be able to help with fudged up gsm firmware?
Dec 11 15:03:53 <spaetzAway> didn't someone say you basically cannot screw up the gsm modem with firmware uploads?
Dec 11 15:04:07 <spaetzAway> good luck
Dec 11 15:04:15 <JesusMcCloud> spaetzAway, that is what i thought
Dec 11 15:05:14 <JesusMcCloud> it is a frineds phone.. he tried to update firmware with sd card image and since then phone funtionalytiy is gone... i treid sdcard again and manual way, without sucess
Dec 11 15:05:52 <JesusMcCloud> will try again now with sdcard image  (let it boot and then do it the manual way... prolly flash oder fw -moko10- and tehn reflash moko11)
Dec 11 15:06:52 <spaetzAway> shit
Dec 11 15:09:09 <JesusMcCloud> i think it has to be a software problem, because the only possbiel hw problem would be a faulty contact to sim card, sth that you wont be able to produce even if you smash the phone trough a crowded bar against the wall where drunk people will play football with your phone after it hit
Dec 11 15:14:20 <JesusMcCloud> waaargh this bugs me, since the owner is a quite skilled hacker there can never be too many skilled coders
Dec 11 15:14:44 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: why is he not here? ;)
Dec 11 15:19:27 <JesusMcCloud> lindi-, cause he fudget up gsm firmware update and did not get it to work again... seems like the situation is the same here.. i treid 3 times already and it is still not working...
Dec 11 15:19:50 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: does it respond to AT\r\n?
Dec 11 15:20:45 <JesusMcCloud> the modem responds to commands (can read out current fw version etc)
Dec 11 15:21:00 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: what fails?
Dec 11 15:21:24 <JesusMcCloud> no sim card reconized, so "no service"
Dec 11 15:21:41 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: what command did you use?
Dec 11 15:21:52 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: how about AT+CPIN?
Dec 11 15:22:00 <JesusMcCloud> lindi-, sec, gotte search my irc log for pastebin link
Dec 11 15:22:27 <JesusMcCloud> lindi-, no manual commads tried, but frameworkd loglever debug
Dec 11 15:22:38 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: try AT+CPIN?
Dec 11 15:22:57 <JesusMcCloud> currently i have no sim in as i am gooting an sdcard image 
Dec 11 15:23:03 <JesusMcCloud> for flashing gsm firmware
Dec 11 15:23:23 <lindi-> i thought you flashed it already
Dec 11 15:25:45 <JesusMcCloud> lindi ia trayin the manual way again (flashing back to moko10, then moko11 again.. dunno maybe it helps
Dec 11 15:26:04 <JesusMcCloud> lindi-, http://pastebin.com/m13d8beb4
Dec 11 15:27:57 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: COMPLETED 'AT+CPIN?' => ['+CPIN: READY', 'OK']
Dec 11 15:28:11 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: that suggests that it can talk to the SIM card
Dec 11 15:28:24 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: can you read sms and contacts too?
Dec 11 15:28:26 <JesusMcCloud> lindi-, hmm well it stil doesnt
Dec 11 15:28:48 <lindi-> JesusMcCloud: why not? the pin is only stored on SIM
Dec 11 15:29:01 <JesusMcCloud> lindi-, nope cannot acces anything from sim (using current shr testing that works on my phone. even tried my sdcard
Dec 11 15:31:45 <JesusMcCloud> so sth is fucked up
Dec 11 15:38:00 * Weiss utterly, totally, 100% fails to deal with jetlag
Dec 11 15:38:42 <spaetzAway> still waking up in the mornings?
Dec 11 15:38:51 <spaetzAway> *early* mornings?
Dec 11 15:39:14 * JaMa 100% fails to deal with joblag :)
Dec 11 15:40:15 <Weiss> spaetzAway: it's 7.40am here, I slept about two hours last night (and 3 hours yesterday afternoon)
Dec 11 15:40:30 <spaetzAway> outch
Dec 11 15:41:21 <spaetz> JaMa: same here :)
Dec 11 15:41:35 <spaetz> BTW, those freaking locales are still being generated
Dec 11 15:42:31 <spaetz> It seems to generate even non-UTF-8 stuff
Dec 11 15:43:05 <spaetz> I thought that is deisabled by default...
Dec 11 15:54:26 * Weiss opts to stay on CA time for the moment, and goes for breakfast
Dec 11 16:05:11 <JesusMcCloud> (jesus christ forst boot of testing takes long...)
Dec 11 16:08:13 <TAsn> good waves
Dec 11 16:08:17 <TAsn> and a storm just kicked in :P
Dec 11 16:08:31 <TAsn> tomorrow there'll be monstrous waves.
Dec 11 16:22:08 <alexxy> TAsn: mrmoku|away : hi
Dec 11 16:22:21 <TAsn> hey.
Dec 11 16:22:26 <TAsn> you just met me on the way out.
Dec 11 16:22:27 <TAsn> ciao.
Dec 11 16:22:36 <alexxy> TAsn: mrmoku|away: can you add highliting of unread messages to Messages app?
Dec 11 16:23:00 <TAsn> there's already a bug about it.
Dec 11 16:23:24 <TAsn> and yeah, we'll do it, it's not really hard, it's actually quite easy, we just had more important things to do.
Dec 11 16:23:25 <alexxy> also messages app crashe on incoming message if its open
Dec 11 16:23:26 <TAsn> ciao.
Dec 11 16:23:36 <alexxy> ok =)
Dec 11 16:23:49 <JesusMcCloud> lindi-, reflashed, sim instered same behavior... any suggestions (issuing AT command u suggested now)
Dec 11 16:28:39 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, do you have any ideas on broken gsm firmware?
Dec 11 16:29:16 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: sorry, no
Dec 11 16:29:29 <JesusMcCloud> ~seen DocScrutinizer 
Dec 11 16:29:32 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: PaulFertser or DocScrutinizer would be the two experts
Dec 11 16:29:32 <apt> docscrutinizer is currently on #openmoko-cdevel (10h 56m 47s) #openmoko (10h 56m 47s), last said: 'and I definitley should get a glass of hot milk with honey and a nap'.
Dec 11 16:30:00 <JesusMcCloud> PaulFertser, ping
Dec 11 16:31:30 <spaetz> wpwrak too, probably?
Dec 11 16:32:25 <wpwrak> spaetz: no glass of milk for me
Dec 11 16:32:48 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, but help with modem prolly?
Dec 11 16:33:02 <spaetz> hehe
Dec 11 16:33:31 <JesusMcCloud> srsly sth is just plain wrong with that phone's modem
Dec 11 16:34:53 <mrmoku> dos1: dimming is coming closer :)
Dec 11 16:35:06 <dos1> ;)
Dec 11 16:36:13 <wpwrak> JesusMcCloud: does it respond to AT commands ?
Dec 11 16:36:49 * spaetz looks outside. yes looks very dim already in europe...
Dec 11 16:36:52 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, what is the nicest was to send at commands? dbus?
Dec 11 16:37:04 * JesusMcCloud seconds that
Dec 11 16:39:34 <wpwrak> JesusMcCloud: i tend to use "cu" :) but perhaps there's a dbus guru around who can explain that approach too. most of my ways of debugging involve shutting down pretty much everything that normally runs on your phone (or booting a system that doesn't start them in the first place)
Dec 11 16:40:29 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, i never directly talked to gsm moden so coudl you post an exact command that i need to issue?
Dec 11 16:48:47 <wpwrak> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM#Connecting_to_GSM_Modem_.28using_cu.29
Dec 11 16:49:05 <wpwrak> (i hope it still works. don't have a system up at the moment)
Dec 11 16:51:18 <wpwrak> JesusMcCloud: first you should kill everything that might access the modem. basically everything but dropbear and your shell is suspicious
Dec 11 16:52:49 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, rebooteed phone.. trying now
Dec 11 16:54:13 <wpwrak> if you booted into a regular system, you still have to kill all the daemons. if you booted into a trimmed-down system (like my "myroot"), then they're not around. but you probably don't have this sort of setup.
Dec 11 16:57:16 <JesusMcCloud> (installing cu now)
Dec 11 17:03:06 <wpwrak> then you can try, say, AT+CGMI
Dec 11 17:03:31 <JesusMcCloud> AT
Dec 11 17:04:03 <wpwrak> you have to power it up first, of course. something like  echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
Dec 11 17:04:42 <wpwrak> and maybe set the line parameters: stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 115200 crtscts -echo
Dec 11 17:04:47 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, f it hangs on "Connected" message then probably your device has a non-working GSM modem
Dec 11 17:05:44 <JesusMcCloud> i HANGS on connecte
Dec 11 17:05:44 <JesusMcCloud> d
Dec 11 17:06:02 <wpwrak> it's powered up, line it set, all daemons are dead ?
Dec 11 17:06:41 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, afaik
Dec 11 17:06:53 <kahlb> mokonnect crashes with an error in shr-unstable, is this known?
Dec 11 17:08:09 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, got socat running
Dec 11 17:09:10 <alexxy> TAsn: mrmoku : aslo seems somethign goes wrong with messages app
Dec 11 17:09:25 <alexxy> because on incomming message i get
Dec 11 17:09:43 <alexxy> "GSM is not available because no sim card present
Dec 11 17:10:02 <alexxy> but i recieve all messages and i can call
Dec 11 17:11:52 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, it resonds to AT+CGMI, but AT+CPIN just gives ERROR
Dec 11 17:12:02 <JesusMcCloud> ~seen PaulFertser
Dec 11 17:12:04 <apt> paulfertser is currently on #openmoko-cdevel (2d 56m 47s) #openmoko (2d 56m 47s). Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 1d 6h 39m 55s, last said: 'Ainulindale: He say "I know you, you know me", One thing I can tell you is you got to be free.'.
Dec 11 17:12:33 <alexxy> TAsn: mrmoku: seems this message should say "sim card is full instead"
Dec 11 17:14:41 <mrmoku> alexxy: heh... dialogs swaped again :(
Dec 11 17:14:47 <mrmoku> thought I already fixed that
Dec 11 17:15:13 <mrmoku> will look at it tonight
Dec 11 17:21:35 <mrmoku> dos1: hehe, it dims :P
Dec 11 17:21:51 * mrmoku off for a shower before comitting though ;)
Dec 11 17:21:54 <mrmoku> bbl
Dec 11 17:41:17 <wpwrak> JesusMcCloud: hmm, not sure what that could be. maybe remove and re-insert the SIM card ? if you can, clean the contacts
Dec 11 17:46:25 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, simcard is ok, it works on the other openmoko
Dec 11 17:49:30 <wpwrak> what happened between th last time the modem worked and the first time it didn't ?
Dec 11 17:57:26 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, firmware update
Dec 11 18:28:22 <bumbl> how to solve the current illume keyboard issue?
Dec 11 18:28:44 <spaetz> kahlb, no  mokonnect crashing is not known.
Dec 11 18:30:48 <spaetz> bumbl, grep for illume.*keyboard pkgs
Dec 11 18:30:48 <spaetz> and install one
Dec 11 18:44:26 <spaetz> kahlb, the author of mokonnect is here F4t. why don´t you take it up with him...
Dec 11 18:48:12 <F4t> yes, kahlb why dont we take it outside.....
Dec 11 18:48:46 * F4t *grins*
Dec 11 18:49:20 <bumbl> F4t: mokonnect does not handle routes correctly
Dec 11 18:49:27 <bumbl> therefore it fails to go into the internet
Dec 11 18:54:36 <spaetz> hehe :-)
Dec 11 19:15:35 <zoff99> hi guys
Dec 11 19:16:07 <zoff99> no you made the openmoko 100% secure :-( no keyboard on moko, and ssh not possible. what now??
Dec 11 19:18:17 <lindi-> zoff99: who made?
Dec 11 19:18:32 <zoff99> newest shr-unstable image
Dec 11 19:18:39 <zoff99> has no keyboard
Dec 11 19:18:45 <zoff99> i cant enter anything
Dec 11 19:19:08 <zoff99> and ssh is not allowed. so my moko is just a door-stop now :-(
Dec 11 19:19:47 <soltys> ;DDD
Dec 11 19:19:58 <soltys> dos1: ^^ fix it! ;)
Dec 11 19:20:24 <dos1> zoff99: newest shr-unstable image is broken, just flash one before it ;P
Dec 11 19:20:54 <zoff99> but the one before, sucks also :) can i flash myself with human 0.99 please
Dec 11 19:21:14 <wpwrak> JesusMcCloud: did you try to do the update again ?
Dec 11 19:21:36 <zoff99> dos1: have any idea when 2.6.31 will land, so far it fixes all my toubles and its fast. my hopes a HIGH !!
Dec 11 19:22:12 <zoff99> dos1: i cant crash that damn 2.6.31 kernel , and i tried evrything :P
Dec 11 19:25:07 <Wonka> lol
Dec 11 19:25:17 * Wonka wants
Dec 11 19:26:01 <spaetz> zoff99, load the sd card in  cardd reader and change sshd config to allow empty passwords
Dec 11 19:26:05 * zoff99 flashes Wonka with firmware human 0.99r6
Dec 11 19:26:31 <spaetz> as for crashing 2.6.31, try to suspend and resume :-)
Dec 11 19:26:50 <zoff99> Wonka: i hope u boot ok
Dec 11 19:27:34 <zoff99> spaetz: yeah, but the radom crashes that i have now (but noone else) are gone. also i have a strange brown line going through my display, with 2.6.31 thats suddenly gone!!
Dec 11 19:27:45 <zoff99> spaetz: and i thought that line was a HW issue :)
Dec 11 19:28:08 <spaetz> also fso*d doesn´t work with 2.6.31, so no calls
Dec 11 19:28:08 <spaetz> but the fr makes for a rather nice doorstop (or ice hockey puck) ;-)
Dec 11 19:29:41 <zoff99> spaetz: i like doors to stop :)
Dec 11 19:30:04 <zoff99> spaetz: but the same goes for the lastest shr-u image, no keyboard and no ssh :P
Dec 11 19:30:10 <spaetz> interesting. yes we all want 2.6.31...
Dec 11 19:30:46 <zoff99> spaetz: who must we wait for? the FSO guys?
Dec 11 19:31:00 <linkmauve_> zoff99, but an USB keyboard should work.
Dec 11 19:31:53 <zoff99> linkmauve_: and i will plug it into my nuclear powerplant, next to my spaceshuttle
Dec 11 19:32:29 <linkmauve_> :D
Dec 11 19:32:58 <zoff99> 2.6.31 land NOW!! laaaaaaaaaaaaaaand
Dec 11 19:33:07 <linkmauve_> I use a foldable USB keyboard with my FR all days, at university.
Dec 11 19:33:58 <zoff99> linkmauve_: i try not to put any money into a dead horse , if possible. its eough that i spend hours trying to fix code and python stuff :*
Dec 11 19:34:02 <zoff99> :P
Dec 11 19:34:03 <spaetz> zoff99, i know, but you can install a keyboard manually once you log in...
Dec 11 19:34:36 <JesusMcCloud> wpwrak, 5 firmware updates (acutllay 1 downgrade and 4 upgrades) with no sucess whatsoever
Dec 11 19:34:48 <zoff99> spaetz: login how? ssh is not possbile
Dec 11 19:35:30 <zoff99> spaetz: anyway, who do we need to wait for for 2.6.31? do the FSO guys need to bring it, or are we ?
Dec 11 19:36:10 <spaetz> as for the fso guys, there is basically only 1 working on it and he´s currently not paid to do so...
Dec 11 19:36:11 <spaetz> and yes, waiting for fso to work with 2.6.31 is part of the pic
Dec 11 19:36:37 <zoff99> spaetz: that does not sound promising :( seems like never-never-day
Dec 11 19:37:37 <spaetz> ssh is possible with my above suggestion...
Dec 11 19:38:56 * zoff99 is flashing himself with firmw .... error when flashing device Zoff ... kernöl halted
Dec 11 19:39:37 <spaetz>  load the sd card in  cardd reader and change sshd config to allow empty passwords
Dec 11 19:39:41 <JesusMcCloud> KernÖl how to "halt" it is a fucking liquid!
Dec 11 19:40:34 <JesusMcCloud> s/"halt"/"halt" it?/
Dec 11 19:40:35 <apt_> JesusMcCloud meant: KernÖl how to "halt" it? it is a fucking liquid!
Dec 11 19:40:57 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: are u from austria, all your screenshots show phonnumbers "+43...." ?
Dec 11 19:41:27 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: my kernöl runs only on localhorst
Dec 11 19:41:32 <JesusMcCloud> zoff99, i currently reside in styria, so there is kernöl everywhere
Dec 11 19:41:45 <JesusMcCloud> (so yes austria)
Dec 11 19:41:47 <bumbl> dos1: how can i change all fields of opimdcontacts?
Dec 11 19:41:54 <bumbl> mhm kernöl
Dec 11 19:42:00 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: but you are from somewhere else originally?
Dec 11 19:42:33 <JesusMcCloud> zoff99, nope, but i will be holly jolly all day, as soon as the day comes i can finally leave this country
Dec 11 19:43:11 <Wonka> ?
Dec 11 19:43:31 <Wonka> JesusMcCloud: going where? (and why?)
Dec 11 19:43:37 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: i just feel so releaved that i am not the only idoit in austria, that bought an ugly hockeypuck for 300€ and told everybody its supposed to be a hpone :P
Dec 11 19:43:48 <JesusMcCloud> Wonka, wondering about kernöl?
Dec 11 19:43:58 <bumbl> Wonka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proporz
Dec 11 19:44:25 <JesusMcCloud> zoff99, actually there is a second fr lying on my table (with brken modem firmware)
Dec 11 19:44:58 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: ok then u win :) :)
Dec 11 19:45:23 <bumbl> + extention of proporz to economy: for each job: a person from the first party, a person from the second one and one who works
Dec 11 19:45:28 <JesusMcCloud> zoff99, but it si not mine
Dec 11 19:45:50 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: ok then its a draw
Dec 11 19:46:09 <JesusMcCloud> i dont hate austrai because of the politics
Dec 11 19:46:21 <JesusMcCloud> (was deircted at bumbl)
Dec 11 19:47:10 <JesusMcCloud> zoff99, i dont regret bying the freerunner
Dec 11 19:47:14 <bumbl> ;)
Dec 11 19:47:42 <JesusMcCloud> plus, i _hate_ kernöl
Dec 11 19:47:44 <bumbl> zoff99: the freerunner is the best device for travelling
Dec 11 19:48:34 <mrmoku> TAsn: back from the waves?
Dec 11 19:49:44 <mrmoku> dos1: what about suspend?
Dec 11 19:50:11 <mrmoku> dos1: I want to re-add suspend handling in phonefsod... configurable though
Dec 11 19:50:27 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: i regret buying it, i had bigger hopes for it
Dec 11 19:50:41 <zoff99> JesusMcCloud: i hate kernöl more
Dec 11 19:51:08 <bumbl> kernöl + backhändlsalat rocks
Dec 11 19:51:11 * mrmoku thinks that depends all on the plant... Sonnenblumenkernöl is quite nice :P
Dec 11 19:52:03 <mrmoku> [20:49]        mrmoku | dos1: what about suspend?
Dec 11 19:52:03 <mrmoku> [20:50]        mrmoku | dos1: I want to re-add suspend handling in phonefsod... configurable though
Dec 11 19:52:03 <mrmoku> dos11: ^^
Dec 11 19:52:26 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, well kenröl usually refers to pumpkin kernöl
Dec 11 19:53:27 <mrmoku> zoff99: so... 2.6.31 does not crash for you?
Dec 11 19:54:04 <dos1> mrmoku: hmm
Dec 11 19:54:24 <dos1> mrmoku: as long as it works and is configurable i'm fine with it ;)
Dec 11 19:54:32 <mrmoku> dos1: hehe, yeah
Dec 11 19:55:31 <mrmoku> dos1: probably should work even on boot with usb plugged ;)
Dec 11 19:55:46 <dos1> ;)
Dec 11 19:56:19 <mrmoku> and makes it possible to not suspend while being in the middle of registering to the network
Dec 11 19:57:35 <zoff99> ??????
Dec 11 19:57:48 <mrmoku> [20:53]        mrmoku | zoff99: so... 2.6.31 does not crash for you?
Dec 11 19:57:51 <bumbl> dos1: is there a way to change a field name for all contacts to another filed name?
Dec 11 19:58:01 <dos1> bumbl: script? :P
Dec 11 19:58:28 <bumbl> dos1: for example - what would be the correct dbus call?
Dec 11 19:58:39 <dos1> bumbl: look at opimd-cli
Dec 11 19:58:56 <bumbl> *instaling opimd utils*
Dec 11 19:59:37 <dos1> opimd-utils-cli ;
Dec 11 20:00:55 <zoff99> hello??
Dec 11 20:01:06 <zoff99> i got connection reset
Dec 11 20:09:06 <spaetz> JesusMcCloud, where in styria? my grandma is from liezen
Dec 11 20:09:09 <spaetz> mrmoku, ok i am fine with handling suspend from  phonefsod as long as i don´t have to request alll resources through it.
Dec 11 20:11:02 <JesusMcCloud> spaetz, graz
Dec 11 20:11:43 <spaetz> cool, been there for a wedding 3 years ago :-)
Dec 11 20:12:06 <spaetz> and got totally drunk on the christmas market
Dec 11 20:12:10 <JesusMcCloud> and because of that, i have to take a shower. a new club is opening and it might be just plain awesome http://kottulinsky.at/ (will be back in 5 mins for quick chat)
Dec 11 20:14:06 <spaetz> bad headache from gluehwein...
Dec 11 20:15:31 <JesusMcCloud> i just got drunk once on glühwein this year, and that was at university, where the sofware engineering guys opened up a tent amd brewed their own
Dec 11 20:17:16 <JesusMcCloud> ...graz is really nice, people are friendlier than in klagenfurt (carinthia)
Dec 11 20:19:14 <JesusMcCloud> the greatest thing in graz: every bum knows how to resuscitate using a defibrilator
Dec 11 20:23:39 <mrmoku> are people out there who want to configure the thing to suspend even while charging?
Dec 11 20:24:26 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, here!#
Dec 11 20:24:32 <mrmoku> ok :)
Dec 11 20:24:33 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: if the firmware update is successful, there can be no other problem except for bad electrical contact with the sim card.
Dec 11 20:24:40 <mrmoku> will make that configurable then
Dec 11 20:24:50 <JesusMcCloud> in combuination with deep-sleep always and wallcharger with fast charge mode i have über t337 ultra fast charge
Dec 11 20:24:50 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: and if it says it's successful, it's really is.
Dec 11 20:25:41 <JesusMcCloud> PaulFertser, thanks. i will tell that to my buddy, so he gets a replacement (so just a bad coincidence i guess)
Dec 11 20:27:04 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: did the card ever work?
Dec 11 20:27:15 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: i suggest cleaning the contacts with pure ethanol
Dec 11 20:27:43 <JesusMcCloud> PaulFertser, yup (i tested with my working sim) and the phone used to work when it was delivered
Dec 11 20:27:44 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: checking the holder etc. Try to ensure contact is good.
Dec 11 20:28:19 <JesusMcCloud> PaulFertser, i inspected the holder, applied gentle pressure, bu nothing
Dec 11 20:28:36 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: if the modem responds to commands, it most probably means it's ok, so it should be some mechanical stuff. At least that's most probably given the sympoms you describe.
Dec 11 20:28:49 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: clean the contacts, who knows, it helped one guy with the same problem.
Dec 11 20:29:34 <JesusMcCloud> PaulFertser, the phone was only in use 2 weeks, (but was lying around for 2 months now after it broke)
Dec 11 20:30:04 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: 2 months? funny
Dec 11 20:30:19 <JesusMcCloud> the contacts are clean (toothbrush and alcohol)
Dec 11 20:30:31 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: i think he shouldn't have removed the simcard at all :)
Dec 11 20:30:36 <JesusMcCloud> PaulFertser, how is that funny? *confused*
Dec 11 20:30:46 <PaulFertser> JesusMcCloud: why wait 2 months? 
Dec 11 20:31:44 <JesusMcCloud> because i just met the guy 1 moth ago, and he was just pissed after it happened.. i had to talk him into letting me try to fix it
Dec 11 20:32:33 <JesusMcCloud> without opening the device i cannot say anything, but it should be covered by warrenty
Dec 11 20:32:40 <JesusMcCloud> so i wont open irt
Dec 11 20:33:35 <JesusMcCloud> s/irt/it/
Dec 11 20:33:35 <apt_> JesusMcCloud meant: so i wont open it
Dec 11 20:36:22 <JesusMcCloud> anyhow gtg party
Dec 11 20:36:42 <JesusMcCloud> have a nice evening @all
Dec 11 20:43:14 <GNUtoo> hi mickeyl ,samsung+codeaurora has newer version of alsa for htcdream...leviathan(I tried first but didn't look too far) is trying to rebase them...I wonder if we will succeed
Dec 11 20:46:41 <leviathan> GNUtoo: ok
Dec 11 20:47:03 <leviathan> I think, I will try to merge it into the mainkernel :)
Dec 11 20:47:09 <GNUtoo> .32?
Dec 11 20:47:10 <leviathan> so If I get booting it
Dec 11 20:47:14 <leviathan> yes
Dec 11 20:47:21 <GNUtoo> did you boot it yet?
Dec 11 20:47:26 <leviathan> nop
Dec 11 20:47:35 <leviathan> I'll first finish porting it
Dec 11 20:47:49 <leviathan> but it makes more sense to merge it into a clean kernel
Dec 11 20:48:00 <leviathan> I'm resolving the depencies atm
Dec 11 20:48:20 <leviathan> and rewriting functions, theire used structs have changed
Dec 11 20:48:24 <leviathan> will take some tim
Dec 11 20:48:27 <leviathan> *time
Dec 11 20:49:26 <leviathan> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git;a=tree;f=arch/arm/mach-msm;h=64433675f8e537590138e1bd6a8b9a31780f0193;hb=bf923ab0c44c38cfee9d9e4c106d3fd272ba9e5a
Dec 11 20:49:30 <leviathan> lol
Dec 11 20:49:33 <leviathan> look there
Dec 11 20:49:46 <leviathan> good base to get it mainline
Dec 11 20:50:51 <leviathan> I'll try to do it on base on linux-next
Dec 11 20:51:03 <leviathan> because this one is thought to become next-release
Dec 11 20:56:33 <leviathan> GNUtoo: sry, I didnt make a lot
Dec 11 20:56:40 <leviathan> I needed to go sleep
Dec 11 20:56:44 <GNUtoo> ok np
Dec 11 20:56:47 <leviathan> and have awaken right now
Dec 11 20:56:52 <leviathan> uhm
Dec 11 20:56:57 <leviathan> some minutes ago
Dec 11 20:57:08 <leviathan> I had to get up in the morning for lecture ;-)
Dec 11 20:57:37 <leviathan> So, I think, the best approach would be to get the newest official development-kernel booting
Dec 11 20:57:45 <leviathan> it should boot without problems
Dec 11 20:57:59 <leviathan> because there is a dream-board already in it
Dec 11 20:58:17 <leviathan> only qdsp5 is missing or so
Dec 11 20:58:23 <leviathan> I'll look
Dec 11 20:58:27 <leviathan> but linux-next seems to support htcdream already
Dec 11 20:58:38 <leviathan> perhaps we are doing useless work, and they have already cleaned up the driver >_<
Dec 11 21:02:30 <leviathan> GNUtoo: lol, its not even compiling for htcdream
Dec 11 21:02:39 <leviathan> ... well, I'll fix that
Dec 11 21:02:39 <GNUtoo> leviathan, ok
Dec 11 21:03:09 <leviathan> did you have a lot of series to solve?
Dec 11 21:03:15 <leviathan> or learn for exams
Dec 11 21:03:31 <leviathan> or... uhhhh... a private live? xD
Dec 11 21:03:42 <GNUtoo> university mainly
Dec 11 21:09:25 <leviathan> GNUtoo: ok :)
Dec 11 21:09:43 <leviathan> then its good ^^
Dec 11 21:09:47 <tmzt> linux-next does?
Dec 11 21:09:52 <leviathan> hmm
Dec 11 21:09:57 <leviathan> nope
Dec 11 21:10:05 <leviathan> there are some changes I need to fix
Dec 11 21:10:07 <tmzt> I should try it with htcfb and the fake mddi-dummy
Dec 11 21:10:19 <tmzt> what about clocks though on wince
Dec 11 21:10:25 <tmzt> that's the issue I think
Dec 11 21:11:39 <leviathan> hmm
Dec 11 21:12:10 <kahlb> d'oh, i'm desperate...
Dec 11 21:12:15 <leviathan> I really had some trubble with timing... but I never tried wince(haret)->linux myself
Dec 11 21:12:17 <tmzt> are you both on g1?
Dec 11 21:12:22 <tmzt> kahib: ?
Dec 11 21:12:22 <leviathan> tmzt: yes
Dec 11 21:12:31 <kahlb> mokonnect starts with current testing image now
Dec 11 21:12:44 <kahlb> but gprs stops working after a few hours.
Dec 11 21:12:49 <tmzt> sorry
Dec 11 21:13:01 <tmzt> wrong channel
Dec 11 21:13:33 <kahlb> it say's "connection failed" in mokonnect, and in settings/connectivity I can't establish connection, too.
Dec 11 21:13:55 <kahlb> reboot has no effect. something seems to be broken...
Dec 11 21:15:00 <tmzt> GNUtoo: you're not in #htc-linux now, what's going on?
Dec 11 22:55:58 <raster> merrr
Dec 12 01:35:50 <gonzoism> how do you get the keyboard back ?
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