**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 19 02:59:57 2010
Feb 19 04:31:46 <DocScrutinizer> moo MaGooo
Feb 19 05:40:07 <satish> larsc: Hi
Feb 19 05:43:50 <DocScrutinizer> lo
Feb 19 05:44:44 <satish> om-gta02-2.6.32 branch kernel build is interactive, how to do the build with default options and don't prompt for user input ?
Feb 19 05:49:35 <Q-Master> Serdar2: ping
Feb 19 05:50:08 <Q-Master> TAsn: are you ever sleeping? 8)
Feb 19 06:17:37 <Q-Master> damn
Feb 19 06:17:48 <Q-Master> gsm is not starting for me
Feb 19 06:41:38 <JaMa|Zzzz> TAsn: those utils bumped and in feeds
Feb 19 06:43:15 <JaMa|Zzzz> JesusMcCloud: and neo also in feeds
Feb 19 06:43:43 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa|Wrk, nice
Feb 19 06:44:08 <JesusMcCloud> i checked again and tehming phoneui doesnt work as expected...
Feb 19 06:44:28 <JesusMcCloud> but i i quite confident that mrmoku si to blam :-P
Feb 19 06:44:36 <JesusMcCloud> s/blam/blame/
Feb 19 06:44:36 <apt> JesusMcCloud meant: but i i quite confident that mrmoku si to blame :-P
Feb 19 06:44:56 <satish> my kernel build is prompting for user input for many drivers.,...how to disable and keep the default as input ?
Feb 19 06:45:58 <JaMa|Wrk> satish: yes | make oldconfig
Feb 19 06:46:39 <JaMa|Wrk> satish: yes '' | make oldconfig
Feb 19 06:48:13 <satish> JaMa|Wrk: i didn't get u 
Feb 19 06:53:18 <satish> JaMa|Wrk: should i need to copy old config and make the yes in the required place ?
Feb 19 06:55:50 <alabd> Hello , mplayer on SHR-t plays mp4 ,3gp,wmv files but intone-video does not , what's the problem ?
Feb 19 07:13:48 <Weiss> JaMa|Wrk: was the extra issue anything to do with "flushInvalidate"?
Feb 19 07:19:13 <satish> larsc: hi
Feb 19 07:36:03 <spaetz> JaMa|Wrk, isn't there 'make defconfig' too? iirc
Feb 19 07:37:31 <JaMa|Wrk> spaetz: defconfig? never heard about that.. I was thinking that defconfig is only OE thing (and it's renamed to .config and then used in oldconfig)
Feb 19 07:37:35 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: yes..
Feb 19 07:38:33 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=2613ee5ac52f1eebb6c3aab0372e93c222ae3f0b
Feb 19 07:38:56 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: btw with 1.8 the gui feels even faster to me
Feb 19 07:39:20 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: but I'm also thinking about startging "lag" ie when scrolling illume home screen..
Feb 19 07:53:35 <mrmoku> TAsn: my box is _my_ box... and I need my box today :P
Feb 19 07:54:48 <mrmoku> spaetz: I didn't remember they're soooo tiny when just born :)
Feb 19 07:55:08 <spaetz> ooh, is it there? Congratulations!!!
Feb 19 07:55:15 <mrmoku> thanks :)
Feb 19 07:55:30 <JaMa|Wrk> mrmoku: Congratz! good work :)
Feb 19 07:55:48 <mrmoku> JaMa|Wrk: well... we will know in 18 years or so ;)
Feb 19 07:55:51 <spaetz> yes, my 19 months old son appears SOOO BIG in comparison, suddenly
Feb 19 07:55:52 <DocScrutinizer> moinmoin
Feb 19 07:56:00 <mrmoku> JaMa|Wrk: if he will use windows... I failed :P
Feb 19 07:56:16 <DocScrutinizer> and congrats
Feb 19 07:56:17 <spaetz> hehe, he will grow up not knowing there is windows :)
Feb 19 07:56:22 <spaetz> keep him innocent
Feb 19 07:56:34 <mrmoku> hehe, sure... that works until school
Feb 19 07:56:34 <JaMa|Wrk> mrmoku: I think he will use SHR even on his open mp3 player :)
Feb 19 07:56:48 <mrmoku> :)
Feb 19 07:56:48 <spaetz> right. Or today, until Kindergarden...
Feb 19 07:57:06 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: moinmoin and thanks
Feb 19 07:59:33 <DocScrutinizer> so the nightshift says bye :-)
Feb 19 08:00:51 * DocScrutinizer waves
Feb 19 08:01:10 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: sleep well
Feb 19 08:02:10 <Weiss> JaMa|Wrk: cool... Xorg hasn't been updated upstream to include that fix?
Feb 19 08:02:11 <sleipnir> mrmoku: congrats also from my side
Feb 19 08:03:34 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: no haven't found it..
Feb 19 08:03:37 <mrmoku> thnkas
Feb 19 08:04:11 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: imho it's all because glx was reenabled lately in some cases.. so probably this part was disabled by #ifdef before.. 
Feb 19 08:05:11 <Weiss> why would GLX have been disabled?
Feb 19 08:07:30 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: no idea.. but when looking for commit which break that I've seen only commits modifying mostly autotools stuff for glx enable (I was sleepy and wanted to go to bed.. so maybe I only imagine that :))
Feb 19 08:08:25 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: and it compiled fine with latest mesa about a day before.. and that renaming commit was older.. that's why I think that this part was disabled last time I was building it
Feb 19 08:08:50 <Weiss> hmm yeah.. but it could have been merged in any time regardless of the date on the commit
Feb 19 08:09:20 <Weiss> I've asked the upstream people in #dri-devel - they'll be able to say whether this is a real issue or something at our end
Feb 19 08:09:37 <Weiss> the link in that patch seems wrong by the way.. should be http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=61d26bc82e7c4100acfb551cbb0ba9d84bbc4ba5
Feb 19 08:12:20 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: ah I have right commit hash in commit message, but then pasted wrong link in body :/
Feb 19 08:13:19 <Weiss> yep
Feb 19 08:31:20 <Heinervdm> Why do i get a syntax error with that line?         sed -e "s#@BASH@#/bin/sh#" -i ${S}/elf/ldd.bash.in
Feb 19 08:31:50 <JaMa|Wrk> sed syntax error or from bitbake?
Feb 19 08:32:11 <Heinervdm> bitbake
Feb 19 08:32:33 <Heinervdm> i added a do_patch_append to eglibc-package.bbclass
Feb 19 08:32:38 <Heinervdm> with that line
Feb 19 08:32:39 <JaMa|Wrk> and if you replace @ with . it's ok?
Feb 19 08:33:07 <Heinervdm> let me try
Feb 19 08:33:10 <JaMa|Wrk> because everything else looks like average sed call I used many times from recipe
Feb 19 08:33:23 <JaMa|Wrk> well I'm not using -e :)
Feb 19 08:34:07 <Heinervdm> with the . it isn't working too
Feb 19 08:34:35 <JaMa|Wrk> and what does it say?
Feb 19 08:34:52 <JaMa|Wrk> or show me diff and I'll try it here
Feb 19 08:35:29 <Heinervdm> http://shr.pastebin.com/d51f18dc7
Feb 19 08:36:27 <JaMa|Wrk> Heinervdm: it's in do_patch_preppend?
Feb 19 08:36:41 <Heinervdm> http://shr.pastebin.com/d5b4a3198
Feb 19 08:36:52 <Heinervdm> append
Feb 19 08:36:53 <JaMa|Wrk> Heinervdm: I think this is only python function
Feb 19 08:37:02 <JaMa|Wrk> use do_configure_prepend instead
Feb 19 08:37:48 <Heinervdm> will try
Feb 19 08:38:06 <JaMa|Wrk> see patch.bbclass.. it's only python fce for sure
Feb 19 08:38:30 <Heinervdm> now it works
Feb 19 09:17:30 <Serdar2> Q-Master, pong
Feb 19 09:18:11 <Serdar2> Q-Master, trying to wake me up at 6 O'Clock in the morning is impossible.
Feb 19 09:18:45 <Q-Master> Serdar2: can you plz also make a tar.gz of the contents of system.img of android? jffs2 is impossible to depack on powerpc linux.
Feb 19 09:18:55 <Q-Master> Serdar2: 6? it's 12 here.. 8)
Feb 19 09:19:50 <Serdar2> you want me to unpack system.img and pack it as tar.gz?
Feb 19 09:20:20 <Serdar2> I have to look. never tried this on Mac OS X
Feb 19 09:25:02 <Serdar2> Q-Master, err which system.img?
Feb 19 09:25:15 <Serdar2> Q-Master, cupcake or master?
Feb 19 09:26:24 <Q-Master> Serdar2: Is it possible on osx? how? cupcake weekly I think'll be better
Feb 19 09:26:42 <Serdar2> no idea if it is possible.
Feb 19 09:26:54 <Serdar2> I need to try it or I will use my server.
Feb 19 10:00:59 <Weiss> JaMa|Wrk: <+MrCooper> Weiss: yes, Mesa DRI2 changes require pending xserver changes
Feb 19 10:09:26 <alabd> hello , mplayer playes mp4 , 3gp , wmv video formats on shr-t but intone-video does not play them , why , where is the problem ?
Feb 19 10:20:05 <alabd> any other GUI video player for SHR ?
Feb 19 10:21:17 <Serdar2> Q-Master, why you need a repacked system.img?
Feb 19 10:21:55 <Q-Master> Serdar2: I don't want it installed into NAND. I want to install it to uSD
Feb 19 10:23:07 <Serdar2> Q-Master, you want to use the new bootloader right?
Feb 19 10:23:27 <Q-Master> Serdar2: I'm using qi right now.
Feb 19 10:23:50 <Q-Master> Serdar2: seems that new bootloader is not completely working...
Feb 19 10:35:07 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r0ce7e9fac3d1 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO convert_db/convert_db.py): Phoneutils is not a must in the convert_db.py script anymore, but it is strongly advised for creating indexed databases.
Feb 19 10:36:08 <TAsn> mrmoku|away, I need to review the db structure one last time, to make sure I like it, and if I do, I'll declare it "production"
Feb 19 10:38:00 <TAsn> JaMa|Wrk, sweet, it built the new libphone-utils thanks :P
Feb 19 10:38:08 <alabd> any opinion ?
Feb 19 10:38:22 <JaMa|Wrk> TAsn: sure bumped to latest in the morning :)
Feb 19 10:38:28 <TAsn> oh :P
Feb 19 10:38:55 <TAsn> now I'll test with the new function, I hope it'll work :P
Feb 19 10:38:58 <Q-Master> E vtq
Feb 19 10:39:09 <TAsn>  * Package policykit wants to install file /etc/pam.d/polkit-1
Feb 19 10:39:09 <TAsn> 	But that file is already provided by package  * libpam-base-files
Feb 19 10:39:35 <JaMa|Wrk> imho you can remove libpam-base-files
Feb 19 10:39:38 <JaMa|Wrk> I did
Feb 19 10:39:39 <JaMa|Wrk> :)
Feb 19 10:39:46 <Q-Master> TAsn, mrmoku|away: is frameworkd now working?
Feb 19 10:39:58 <TAsn> it always worked
Feb 19 10:40:19 <JaMa|Wrk> TAsn: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=498e0177005dd33861c661f794aa1e90281aca98
Feb 19 10:40:56 <Q-Master> TAsn: not for me. After the last reboot I've got fso-abyss not responding to frameworkd anymore, so no GSM at all
Feb 19 10:41:10 <TAsn> :|
Feb 19 10:41:14 <TAsn> no idea :|
Feb 19 10:41:18 <JaMa|Wrk> TAsn: but after this http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=a93ded8dbe1fc1a4b5785e0079c9a77316bb7dd6 we didn't get that updated libpam
Feb 19 10:41:42 <Q-Master> TAsn: I've posted some debug to shr-devel
Feb 19 10:41:59 <TAsn> Q-Master, I think freesmartphone.org would be more appropriate
Feb 19 10:42:08 <TAsn> we know our way around the framework
Feb 19 10:42:15 <TAsn> but we are not experts
Feb 19 10:42:27 <Q-Master> TAsn: damn.
Feb 19 10:49:04 <alabd> AUX is blinking RED why ?
Feb 19 10:49:28 <TAsn> kernel panic
Feb 19 10:50:52 <Serdar2> Q-Master, I am looking for a conversation with this bootloader guy
Feb 19 10:51:42 <alabd> what should be done ?
Feb 19 10:51:49 <Serdar2> Q-Master, I guess we can change the installer to install on sd card.
Feb 19 10:52:04 <Serdar2> need some thoughts
Feb 19 10:52:32 <Q-Master> Serdar2: I have already much on my uSD and it will be a big problem to automate the process.
Feb 19 10:55:27 <PaulFertser> Serdar2: BL guy?
Feb 19 10:55:29 <Serdar2> hmm I don't think so.
Feb 19 10:55:44 <Serdar2> PaulFertser, yes. from mailing list.
Feb 19 10:56:03 <PaulFertser> Serdar2: is it about a bootloader for FR?
Feb 19 10:56:03 <Serdar2> tom is his name I guess, sent him a mail yesterday
Feb 19 10:56:18 <Serdar2> yes
Feb 19 10:56:28 <Serdar2> what else?
Feb 19 10:56:34 <PaulFertser> Serdar2: is he working on some Qi improvements or what?
Feb 19 10:56:56 <Serdar2> looks like
Feb 19 10:57:07 <PaulFertser> Can you please give me some link?
Feb 19 10:58:16 <Serdar2> http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/
Feb 19 11:00:20 <Serdar2> PaulFertser, I am looking for dialog, so we can find a way to change our installer which only installs qi (if it's old or not installed).
Feb 19 11:00:45 <PaulFertser> Serdar2: if it's about a bootmenu, then it's not about BL modification
Feb 19 11:01:01 <Serdar2> our installer needs some improvements, because it flash qi everytime installing.
Feb 19 11:01:15 <Serdar2> I see.
Feb 19 11:01:56 <PaulFertser> Serdar2: are you sure flashing a bootloader is something _any_ installer should do?
Feb 19 11:02:09 <PaulFertser> I thought it's up to the user to choose when and what to flash.
Feb 19 11:02:59 <Serdar2> our installer is an old relict of koolu, it installs qi, kernel and rootfs.
Feb 19 11:03:07 <PaulFertser> I'd say through it out
Feb 19 11:03:31 <PaulFertser> Many users didn't know it reinstalled a stupid forked version of Qi.
Feb 19 11:04:03 <Serdar2> we need to change the installer, so it works different.
Feb 19 11:05:43 <alabd> what's FR geraphic device ?
Feb 19 11:07:31 <PaulFertser> Serdar2: just do not intstall a bootloader?
Feb 19 11:07:36 <lindi-> alabd: what?
Feb 19 11:08:00 <alabd> lindi-:  does fr have gerphic interface ?
Feb 19 11:08:16 <Serdar2> PaulFertser, that's why we need work on the installer, it need to be changed to not install the bootloader.
Feb 19 11:08:51 <lindi-> alabd: gerphic?
Feb 19 11:09:17 <alabd> graphic lin
Feb 19 11:09:21 <alabd> lindi-: ^
Feb 19 11:09:22 <Serdar2> and I also would love to create an installer which _only_ installs the bootloader, because don't want to use the usb cable for installing anything.
Feb 19 11:10:01 <lindi-> alabd: what does that mean? surely FR has a display
Feb 19 11:10:58 <alabd> lindi-: pc has graphic card/device how about fr?
Feb 19 11:11:23 <Weiss> SMedia Glamo 3362
Feb 19 11:13:34 <lindi-> alabd: developers should start by reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware ;)
Feb 19 11:13:37 <sanvy> hi all
Feb 19 11:14:39 <lindi-> PaulFertser: any idea where kmalloc pool is in /dev/mem? ;)
Feb 19 11:15:05 <PaulFertser> lindi-: oh, no
Feb 19 11:15:06 <alabd> lindi-:  you know humble am not dev ;)
Feb 19 11:17:55 <CIA-60> SHR: 03tom 07libphone-utils * r3eb724286654 10/src/phone-utils.c: phone_utils_numbers_campre now returns -2 and 2 respectively if either of the numbers is a prefix of the other
Feb 19 11:18:10 <lindi-> PaulFertser: thought about testing each alsa control  http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/amixer.txt and checking which bits of the register cache they affect :)
Feb 19 11:18:18 <TAsn> ok, just added phone-utils support for number autocompletion :P
Feb 19 11:18:29 <lindi-> PaulFertser: and reading the register cache from /dev/mem seemed like the easiest way
Feb 19 11:25:07 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r413825a0d58d 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py): 
Feb 19 11:25:07 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Adedd a log message concerning libphone-utils
Feb 19 11:25:07 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Updated TODO
Feb 19 11:25:07 <TAsn> phew :P
Feb 19 11:38:12 <alabd> what's fr LCD scale ?
Feb 19 11:41:17 <JaMa|Wrk> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#LCD_Module_.28LCM.29
Feb 19 11:43:10 <JaMa|Wrk> Weiss: I had the same issue with xorg-server now on desktop.. so hopefully pending xserver patches will be included soon
Feb 19 12:18:53 <JaMa|Wrk> mrmoku|away: strange bitbake behavior on shr buildhost.. it doesn't upgrade "deep" dependencies.. ie webkit-efl was PR bumped long ago, ventura have it in DEPENDS, task-shr-feed have ventura in RDEPENDS and still it wasn't rebuilt at all... :/
Feb 19 12:21:41 <JaMa|Wrk> mrmoku|away: and yes.. PR in task-shr-feed was bumped after adding ventura few times..
Feb 19 12:37:22 <TAsn> JaMa|Wrk, 34:0 ventura vs midori
Feb 19 12:37:27 <TAsn> do you think I should announce the switch?
Feb 19 12:45:49 <JaMa|Wrk> TAsn: i would wait for that features users requested..
Feb 19 12:45:59 <JaMa|Wrk> TAsn: IIRC JS on/off and something more..
Feb 19 12:46:13 <JaMa|Wrk> also having ca-certs would be nice addition :)
Feb 19 12:46:46 <TAsn> I think they voted for a switch *now*, so no real need to wait for js, as for certs, doesn't midori suffer from the same issue?
Feb 19 12:47:08 <JaMa|Wrk> at least you some say that you can disable JS in midori
Feb 19 12:47:25 <JaMa|Wrk> but I'm not useing neither ..
Feb 19 12:47:30 <JaMa|Wrk> using
Feb 19 12:47:53 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 13:09:11 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: fix plz udev/mount.blacklist!
Feb 19 13:16:22 <Q-Master> 2010.02.19 16:13:56.60 ogsmd.modems.ti_calypso INFO     Requesting new channel from 'fso-abyss'
Feb 19 13:16:22 <Q-Master> 2010.02.19 16:14:01.148 ogsmd.modems.abstract.channel WARNING  UNHANDLED INTERMEDIATE: OK
Feb 19 13:16:26 <Q-Master> and that's all
Feb 19 13:16:35 <Q-Master> framework stucks
Feb 19 13:17:17 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: what's wrong with mount.blacklist?
Feb 19 13:17:41 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: I'm not using that default one..
Feb 19 13:18:21 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: updated udev replaced my mount.blacklist and I again had to add there /dev/mmcblk0. I'm booting from uSD and double mounting causes problems.
Feb 19 13:21:27 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: /dev/mmcblk should work too?
Feb 19 13:21:44 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: not sure
Feb 19 13:21:45 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: to block all possible mmcblks right?
Feb 19 13:21:51 <JaMa|Wrk> please try
Feb 19 13:21:57 <Q-Master> ok.
Feb 19 13:22:06 <Q-Master> anyway gsm is not working
Feb 19 13:23:57 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: seems working.
Feb 19 13:42:14 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: updated udev in feeds, thanks
Feb 19 13:42:54 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: sorry but no idea why frameworkd doesn't work for you.. AFAIK we didn't change anything fso related in last week or so and it works here..
Feb 19 13:44:11 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: it is not working not only for me. 8(
Feb 19 13:46:03 <JaMa|Wrk> try to get more debug info.. you can try my screenrc http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/fso-debug/ just copy those scripts to /usr/local/bin/ chmod +x and then run screen -c screenrc-fso
Feb 19 13:46:45 <JaMa|Wrk> this way you can check behavior of all fso daemons at once and it was usefull for me last time we had problems with fso-abyss (ending with libfsotransport downgrade)
Feb 19 13:46:59 <JaMa|Wrk> and fsodeviced fix for sound
Feb 19 13:51:21 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: I think this time is it a problem with framework and fso-abyss.
Feb 19 13:51:39 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: all 4 scripts?
Feb 19 13:52:28 <Jl_gene>   /quit
Feb 19 13:54:44 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: 3 scripts, last is that config
Feb 19 13:55:01 <JaMa|Wrk> and chrootDist is not used.. so just 2 :)
Feb 19 13:56:24 <Q-Master> cannot exec bash, no such file or directory
Feb 19 13:57:05 <Q-Master> JaMa|Wrk: do I need to install bash?
Feb 19 14:00:58 <JaMa|Wrk> Q-Master: ah you can replace all bash with sh in that screenrc or remove them completely, they are there just as screen window placeholder.. when you kill some fso daemon to start it in same window easily
Feb 19 14:01:29 <Q-Master> ah ok
Feb 19 14:13:06 <JesusMcCloud> aloha
Feb 19 14:13:58 <JesusMcCloud> anyone else having trouble sending/receiving sms?
Feb 19 14:15:54 <Q-Master> http://pastebin.com/d1a4291e5
Feb 19 14:17:28 <JesusMcCloud> Q-Master, will check for that after upgrade
Feb 19 14:17:50 <Q-Master> JesusMcCloud: not sure that it is for you. 8)
Feb 19 14:18:37 <JesusMcCloud> hmm i have gsm, but i am upgrading now ...
Feb 19 14:19:17 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, did you find the time to look int my pim db?
Feb 19 14:20:31 <TAsn> actually, was about to do it a second ago
Feb 19 14:20:39 <TAsn> but then remembered about something I have to do
Feb 19 14:20:42 <TAsn> so in 30 mins probably
Feb 19 14:21:15 <JesusMcCloud> ping me when you have results
Feb 19 14:21:55 <TAsn> sure thing :P
Feb 19 14:23:36 <Q-Master> added to track
Feb 19 14:45:19 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, shit
Feb 19 14:45:29 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, ?
Feb 19 14:45:36 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, I'm really terribly sorry, but db design changed again :P
Feb 19 14:45:40 <TAsn> (I told you it's beta)
Feb 19 14:45:43 <TAsn> though for the last time
Feb 19 14:45:56 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i dont mind, as long as the conversion script works aswell...
Feb 19 14:46:09 <TAsn> it means you need to convert yet again.
Feb 19 14:46:20 <JesusMcCloud> i dont care for converting
Feb 19 14:46:26 <JesusMcCloud> as longs as it works
Feb 19 14:46:42 <TAsn> and yes, conversion script (new revision I'm testing atm) just uses opimd's classes, so it'll always work 
Feb 19 14:47:26 <TAsn> so sec
Feb 19 14:47:28 <TAsn> I'll commit
Feb 19 14:47:33 <TAsn> convert your db, send me
Feb 19 14:47:42 <TAsn> and then I'll test immediately
Feb 19 14:47:54 <TAsn> just finishing the conversion
Feb 19 14:48:14 <TAsn> here
Feb 19 14:48:17 <TAsn> to make sure it works
Feb 19 14:52:00 <TAsn> btw, did some work on phonelog/libphone-ui so they'll work even faster with the new opimd, but this means you'll have to use only new opimd, so I don't recommend that for you atm.
Feb 19 14:52:36 <Q-Master> TAsn: new opimd coming?
Feb 19 14:53:02 <TAsn> I'm using it for a couple of days now
Feb 19 14:53:12 <Q-Master> and...
Feb 19 14:53:25 <TAsn> I like it :P
Feb 19 14:53:29 <TAsn> I just introduced a bug though
Feb 19 14:53:30 <TAsn> so sec
Feb 19 14:54:23 <Q-Master> frameworkd has tonns of bugs with loglevel lower than INFO
Feb 19 14:55:24 <Q-Master> any chances to test it? 8)
Feb 19 14:55:26 <TAsn> ok, no bug, I'm just an idiot :P
Feb 19 14:55:34 <Q-Master> 8)
Feb 19 14:55:43 <Q-Master> very self-critical 8)
Feb 19 14:55:53 <Q-Master> TAsn: BTW, are you ever sleeping?
Feb 19 14:55:58 <TAsn> no
Feb 19 14:56:03 <TAsn> I don't like wasting my time
Feb 19 14:56:15 <Deubeuliou> TAsn: \o/
Feb 19 14:56:33 <TAsn> btw, bug: forgot to add Fields :P
Feb 19 15:00:57 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rfded02af1adf 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (8 files): 
Feb 19 15:00:57 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Changed default tables per domain
Feb 19 15:00:57 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Add some kind of handling when phoneutils is not present (the behavior is mostly undefined when comparing numbers in the db)
Feb 19 15:00:57 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Updated TODO
Feb 19 15:00:57 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r5aad8a74934e 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py: Cleaned pimd_generic's init function just in case someone decides to call it
Feb 19 15:00:58 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r8c58fd700885 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py: Changed pimd_generic so some of it's functions will be usable from the convert script
Feb 19 15:01:00 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r327c8c0d7721 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/type_manager.py: We don't need tasklets in type_manager, removed that
Feb 19 15:01:02 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, please clone and convert :P
Feb 19 15:01:02 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rb04354f1e810 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/convert_db/convert_db.py: Made the conversion script use opimd's modules. It's nicer, easier and safer.
Feb 19 15:04:31 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, lemme guess: this try is trial and error?!
Feb 19 15:04:47 <TAsn> what?
Feb 19 15:05:11 <JesusMcCloud> did u try my db?
Feb 19 15:05:25 <TAsn> no, as I said, I already changed db structure
Feb 19 15:05:28 <TAsn> and I can't try it :(
Feb 19 15:07:02 <TAsn> believe me, I don't like converting my db all the time either :P
Feb 19 15:07:51 <TAsn> anyhow, this structure change was for the last time
Feb 19 15:08:01 <TAsn> I removed "make sure I like the db structure design" from TODO
Feb 19 15:08:03 <TAsn> after the last change
Feb 19 15:08:04 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 15:08:10 <JesusMcCloud> ok
Feb 19 15:08:30 <TAsn> for all I care, this is it :P
Feb 19 15:09:57 <TAsn> Q-Master, do you feel adventurous?
Feb 19 15:10:36 <Q-Master> TAsn: 8) I just don't like opimd slowness.
Feb 19 15:10:47 <TAsn> Q-Master, I can offer a world of speed
Feb 19 15:10:56 <TAsn> (though at a price)
Feb 19 15:11:34 <TAsn> In return for the speed you'll be awarded with, you'll have to be willing to face bugs (though I haven't found any which I didn't fix in the last couple of days)
Feb 19 15:11:38 <TAsn> mrmoku, wanna test new opimd?
Feb 19 15:11:48 <TAsn> I think it's consumer ready.
Feb 19 15:11:59 <TAsn> except for the installation method which is far from it :P
Feb 19 15:12:02 <TAsn> (git clone)
Feb 19 15:12:31 <Q-Master> TAsn: I'm sitting and waiting
Feb 19 15:13:06 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, <TAsn> I think it's consumer ready. <<-- we'll see about that in 5 minutes
Feb 19 15:13:36 <Q-Master> 8))
Feb 19 15:13:43 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, shh
Feb 19 15:14:15 <TAsn> Q-Master, you can git clone it from the opimd-redesign branch if you want.
Feb 19 15:14:59 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, if you have a few minutes to spare, could you install libphone-ui-shr-theme-neo and check your theming mechanism
Feb 19 15:15:24 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: it's in the feed?
Feb 19 15:15:37 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, yup, thanks to JaMa
Feb 19 15:15:56 <TAsn> wow, phonelog is uber fast :P
Feb 19 15:15:58 <Q-Master> TAsn: can you assist with cmd?
Feb 19 15:16:15 <TAsn> <3 seconds to load a page
Feb 19 15:16:20 <TAsn> (not really uber fast, but faster than it was)
Feb 19 15:16:28 <TAsn> Q-Master, sure
Feb 19 15:17:05 <TAsn> git clone --depth 1 git://git.freesmartphone.org/framework.git
Feb 19 15:17:05 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, and hope that no unwantad packages are pulled (except maybe for matching elementary theme)...
Feb 19 15:17:25 <TAsn> git checkout origin/new-opimd
Feb 19 15:17:32 <TAsn> if it's possible ^ I'm not sure it is
Feb 19 15:17:34 <TAsn> if it's not
Feb 19 15:17:37 <TAsn> you'll have to
Feb 19 15:17:38 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: ok, will give it a go a bit later
Feb 19 15:17:46 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, thanks
Feb 19 15:17:50 <TAsn> git branch new-opimd --track origin/new-opimd
Feb 19 15:17:54 <TAsn> and then
Feb 19 15:18:03 <mrmoku> TAsn: what changes does one need to try that fast beast? :P
Feb 19 15:18:04 <TAsn> git checkout new-opimd (or maybe it's done automatically)
Feb 19 15:18:19 <TAsn> mrmoku, you need to checkout the new-opimd frameworkd branch
Feb 19 15:18:25 <mrmoku> TAsn: local build of new-opimd branch is enough?
Feb 19 15:18:26 <TAsn> then clean
Feb 19 15:18:33 <TAsn> more than enough
Feb 19 15:18:44 <mrmoku> and db conversion?
Feb 19 15:18:47 <TAsn> and please send the ipk to Q-Master after you build it
Feb 19 15:18:54 <TAsn> mrmoku, db conversion script is in the feed
Feb 19 15:18:56 <Q-Master> TAsn: fatal: Not a valid object name: 'origin/new-opimd'.
Feb 19 15:18:57 <TAsn> but not shipped atm
Feb 19 15:19:03 <TAsn> Q-Master, though so
Feb 19 15:19:10 <mrmoku> TAsn: what package? (the script)
Feb 19 15:19:10 <JesusMcCloud> Q-Master, or download it here http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=tree;f=framework/subsystems/opimd;h=ed79fed24c43d59d901cb811709bcacddde75d17;hb=b04354f1e81035533d675029abb01f8c21093d17
Feb 19 15:19:17 <TAsn> Q-Master, just wait a sec for mrmoku to build a package :P
Feb 19 15:19:22 <Q-Master> ok
Feb 19 15:19:33 <TAsn> and then take the conversion script from JesusMcCloud's link
Feb 19 15:19:50 <TAsn> and then
Feb 19 15:19:57 <TAsn> /etc/init.d/frameworkd stop
Feb 19 15:20:04 <TAsn> python convert_db.py
Feb 19 15:20:12 <TAsn> and restart phone/frameworkd
Feb 19 15:20:36 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, rebooting...
Feb 19 15:20:42 <TAsn> sweet.
Feb 19 15:21:01 <TAsn> don't forget to send me the db if (after) it doesn't work
Feb 19 15:21:49 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, sadly my bet is on segfault (are you sure your local built packages dont have anything to do with it?)
Feb 19 15:22:14 <TAsn> $ opkg list_installed | grep LOCAL
Feb 19 15:22:15 <TAsn> libphone-ui-shr - 0.0.0+gitrLOCAL-r4.4
Feb 19 15:22:28 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, ok
Feb 19 15:24:55 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, segfault
Feb 19 15:25:21 <TAsn> please send your db :P
Feb 19 15:25:26 <JesusMcCloud> on it...
Feb 19 15:26:01 <TAsn> thanks
Feb 19 15:26:08 * TAsn will test it now
Feb 19 15:27:18 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, sent
Feb 19 15:27:22 <TAsn> thanks
Feb 19 15:27:53 <JesusMcCloud> i'm reverting
Feb 19 15:28:19 <TAsn> np
Feb 19 15:28:21 <TAsn> it's easy to switch
Feb 19 15:28:29 <TAsn> at first I just switched back and forth
Feb 19 15:28:58 <JesusMcCloud> well rebooting sucks...
Feb 19 15:29:35 <TAsn> remind me
Feb 19 15:29:37 <TAsn> what didn't work?
Feb 19 15:30:26 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, the db you sent me has no contacts in it.
Feb 19 15:30:37 <JesusMcCloud> wtf?
Feb 19 15:30:52 <TAsn> it's empty (at least from what I can see)
Feb 19 15:30:56 <TAsn> sec, will make sure.
Feb 19 15:31:10 <TAsn> ok nvm
Feb 19 15:31:12 <TAsn> I'm an idiot :P
Feb 19 15:31:14 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, it showed my contacts
Feb 19 15:31:32 <TAsn> forgot to copy it to the correct dir :P
Feb 19 15:31:54 <TAsn> ok, now what's your issue?
Feb 19 15:32:25 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, name-to-number resolving causes segfault in call screen, messages, and pyphonelog crashes aswell
Feb 19 15:32:36 <TAsn> ok, it does seg
Feb 19 15:32:36 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 15:32:37 <TAsn> sec
Feb 19 15:34:31 <TAsn> phonelog doesn't crash here
Feb 19 15:34:36 <TAsn> (but I changed something
Feb 19 15:34:37 <TAsn> )
Feb 19 15:35:43 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, fyi adding umlauts to names doesnt work in phoneui-contacts (also yould you change the window title from "show contact" to the name of the actual contact?)
Feb 19 15:36:08 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, he already did those
Feb 19 15:36:14 <TAsn> (not in the branch you are using though)
Feb 19 15:36:53 <JesusMcCloud> k
Feb 19 15:36:56 <TAsn> are you sure phonelog crashed? what's your phonelog version?
Feb 19 15:37:38 <JesusMcCloud> to be honest i haven't tried phonelog,
Feb 19 15:37:46 <TAsn> liar :P
Feb 19 15:37:49 <JesusMcCloud> (those were the problems yesterday)
Feb 19 15:38:00 <JesusMcCloud> try to place a call to any contact
Feb 19 15:38:00 <TAsn> ok, so phonelog did crash yesterday?
Feb 19 15:38:16 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, /me ain't gonna try it on international calls :P
Feb 19 15:38:36 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, so create a new contact
Feb 19 15:38:42 <JesusMcCloud> your voicemail or sth liek that
Feb 19 15:39:15 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, phonelgo crashed yesterday, just liek everythin else when it came to name-to-number resolving
Feb 19 15:41:13 <TAsn> hm opimd issues many errors when querying
Feb 19 15:41:53 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, errors are good, so you now sth is wrong
Feb 19 15:41:58 <TAsn> ok, found a bug
Feb 19 15:42:02 <TAsn> don't know if that's related
Feb 19 15:42:03 <TAsn> will see
Feb 19 15:42:08 <mrmoku> now that my build finished :P
Feb 19 15:42:36 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i can send you my sqlite-contacts for conversion
Feb 19 15:42:59 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, sec
Feb 19 15:43:04 <TAsn> I'm thinking how to tackle this issue
Feb 19 15:49:28 <beniwtv> Hey all... someone around with some autotools + bitbake experience?
Feb 19 15:51:36 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, is your /etc/freesmartphone/opim/Contacts.... file is empty?
Feb 19 15:51:54 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, nope
Feb 19 15:51:58 <TAsn> weird
Feb 19 15:52:06 <TAsn> didn't get converted
Feb 19 15:52:09 <JesusMcCloud> want me to email it to you?
Feb 19 15:52:15 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, but my contacts showed up
Feb 19 15:52:22 <TAsn> doesn't matter
Feb 19 15:52:26 <TAsn> no need for email
Feb 19 15:52:32 <TAsn> I can't construct it on my own
Feb 19 15:52:35 <TAsn> though it is weird...
Feb 19 15:52:50 <TAsn> Oh, maybe it's not weird.
Feb 19 15:55:04 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, why doesn't it matter? are you sure your convert skript si not faulty?
Feb 19 15:55:14 <TAsn> ok works :P
Feb 19 15:55:20 <TAsn> you had missing types
Feb 19 15:55:31 <TAsn> it shouldn't have happened anyway
Feb 19 15:55:35 <TAsn> but indeed it did :|
Feb 19 15:55:51 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i guess i dont have types in my sqlite-contacts
Feb 19 15:55:56 <TAsn> and I know where the bugs reside
Feb 19 15:56:07 <TAsn> *bug
Feb 19 15:56:08 <TAsn> resides
Feb 19 15:56:22 <TAsn> want me to send you back your working db?
Feb 19 15:56:31 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, sure thing
Feb 19 15:57:51 <TAsn> sent
Feb 19 15:57:53 <JesusMcCloud> thx
Feb 19 15:57:56 <TAsn> I'll tell you what the bug is
Feb 19 15:58:02 <TAsn> sqlite is type agnostice
Feb 19 15:58:08 <TAsn> i.e you can store a string in an int field
Feb 19 15:58:13 <TAsn> so values don't get converted
Feb 19 15:58:39 <TAsn> for efficiency purposes, I don't cast on query, just on insert
Feb 19 15:58:52 <TAsn> and when inserting, probably stuff went wrong
Feb 19 15:58:57 <TAsn> actually, that's not this bug, just another bug
Feb 19 15:59:04 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, but the db u sent me has all my contacts?
Feb 19 15:59:06 <TAsn> in your case, everything went right when inserting
Feb 19 15:59:14 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, yes
Feb 19 15:59:18 <TAsn> actually, the bug in your case
Feb 19 15:59:27 <JesusMcCloud> i converted with pisi
Feb 19 15:59:32 <JesusMcCloud> to old opimd
Feb 19 15:59:34 <TAsn> was that libphone-ui/opimd didn't handle
Feb 19 15:59:52 <TAsn> the case when querying when there are no fields
Feb 19 15:59:59 <TAsn> I bet it's libphone-ui
Feb 19 16:00:10 <TAsn> it assumed there is at least one phonenumber field
Feb 19 16:00:19 <TAsn> already fixed that in latest version
Feb 19 16:00:22 <TAsn> *later
Feb 19 16:00:25 <TAsn> but in a different branch
Feb 19 16:00:34 <TAsn> so you don't have it yet (neither do I)
Feb 19 16:00:42 <TAsn> anyhow, just add types :P
Feb 19 16:01:12 <JesusMcCloud> does opimd-cli have a feature to list types and add types?
Feb 19 16:01:21 <TAsn> no
Feb 19 16:01:22 <TAsn> but
Feb 19 16:01:35 <TAsn> mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Con
Feb 19 16:01:36 <TAsn> tacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.AddField Phone phonenumber
Feb 19 16:01:39 <TAsn> fairly easy
Feb 19 16:02:44 <JesusMcCloud> so just follow the wikipage for opimd
Feb 19 16:03:21 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 16:03:24 <TAsn> sorry for that
Feb 19 16:03:28 <TAsn> *about that
Feb 19 16:04:19 <JesusMcCloud> dont have to be sorry... but it woudl be great to write a littel script for settign types...
Feb 19 16:05:36 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, phonelgo stil crashes
Feb 19 16:05:52 <JesusMcCloud> (haven't rebooted just restarted framewrokd
Feb 19 16:05:54 <TAsn> really? :| what's your phonelog version?
Feb 19 16:06:05 <TAsn> I'll try with that (I have a different version of phonelog)
Feb 19 16:06:17 <JesusMcCloud> yphonelog - 0.17.0+gitr85+7f3f460b5464d0ca5426131ac52bd10e496f02a5-r0.4
Feb 19 16:06:43 <JesusMcCloud> ~praise TAsn 
Feb 19 16:06:44 <apt> All hail TAsn!
Feb 19 16:07:19 <TAsn> sec, will test
Feb 19 16:07:32 <JesusMcCloud> it is amazingly fast
Feb 19 16:08:56 <TAsn> yay :P
Feb 19 16:09:11 <TAsn> the only "problem" with this version
Feb 19 16:09:19 <TAsn> is that it can only be as fast as you define it
Feb 19 16:09:25 <TAsn> i.e, if you don't define fields correctly
Feb 19 16:09:29 <TAsn> it'll be slow
Feb 19 16:09:49 <TAsn> (faster than old opimd by a factor, but slower than it can be)
Feb 19 16:10:03 <TAsn> that's why I force some fields in all the domains except for contacts
Feb 19 16:10:13 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, so the GUI (phoneui apps) need a hoversel for field types...
Feb 19 16:10:14 <TAsn> in which I just hope people will define them :P
Feb 19 16:10:21 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, already there :P
Feb 19 16:10:27 <TAsn> use the libphone-ui-shr I sent you
Feb 19 16:10:27 <TAsn> ...
Feb 19 16:10:38 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, mrmoku did amazing work on the contacts UI.
Feb 19 16:10:55 <ThibG> faster opimd? \o/
Feb 19 16:11:22 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, that explains why using libphone-ui theme crashes your libphone-ui version...
Feb 19 16:11:32 <JesusMcCloud> i mean not crashes, but renders it useless
Feb 19 16:11:43 <TAsn> yeah 
Feb 19 16:12:25 <JesusMcCloud> does git feature sth like email notification when files change?
Feb 19 16:12:40 <TAsn> no
Feb 19 16:12:46 <TAsn> not that I know of
Feb 19 16:13:07 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, another thing, now i have phone and cell phone field...was that really necesary?
Feb 19 16:13:18 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 16:13:26 <TAsn> all the fields you'll be using for phone numbers
Feb 19 16:13:30 <TAsn> should be define as phoennumber
Feb 19 16:13:32 <TAsn> phonenumber
Feb 19 16:13:35 <TAsn> all the fields for name
Feb 19 16:13:39 <TAsn> should be defined as names
Feb 19 16:14:18 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, couldn't u just change the type of the phone field instead of duplicating?
Feb 19 16:14:32 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r663bae9a25c3 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/db_handler.py: Fixed a bug with generating values for non generic fields
Feb 19 16:14:33 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r7c0b52bf6dd2 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/convert_db/convert_db.py: Fixed bug in the conversion script that caused types not to get converted
Feb 19 16:14:34 <TAsn> I don't think I quite get you.
Feb 19 16:15:12 <JesusMcCloud> JesusMcCloud, now i have a phone and "cell phone" field in all my contacts (or was it htere already when i sent the db to you?
Feb 19 16:15:52 <TAsn> I created those
Feb 19 16:15:58 <TAsn> to make sure this was the bug
Feb 19 16:16:21 <JesusMcCloud> ok, how to remove one of the fields for *all* contacts?
Feb 19 16:16:41 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, ok, let me explain just a minute
Feb 19 16:16:45 <TAsn> the reason you have
Feb 19 16:16:48 <TAsn> Phone: 123
Feb 19 16:16:50 <TAsn> and
Feb 19 16:16:54 <TAsn> Cell phone: 123
Feb 19 16:16:56 <TAsn> is not opimd
Feb 19 16:17:06 <TAsn> and not me either
Feb 19 16:17:19 <TAsn> it's pisi that inserted the new numbers
Feb 19 16:17:22 <TAsn> to your old opimd
Feb 19 16:17:28 <TAsn> that already contained a couple of numbers
Feb 19 16:17:55 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, but i manually removed the cell phone fields today in the morning
Feb 19 16:17:56 <TAsn> I can send you a script to remove all the "Phone" fields if their value is exactly like "Cell phone" field
Feb 19 16:17:58 <TAsn> what do you think?
Feb 19 16:18:07 <JesusMcCloud> yup
Feb 19 16:18:19 <TAsn> you want to *keep* Cell phone, right?
Feb 19 16:18:27 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, yup
Feb 19 16:18:31 <JesusMcCloud> another thing:
Feb 19 16:19:20 <JesusMcCloud> the phoneui-sh u sent me... when i have for example, 'cell hpone' and 'work phone' and i click on the call button... does a hoversel or sht liek that pop up that lets me choose which number to call?
Feb 19 16:19:44 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, I don't think mrmoku implemented that yet :(
Feb 19 16:20:19 <JesusMcCloud> (installing your libphone-ui-shr now for some edje hacking)
Feb 19 16:21:16 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, phonelog issue: I solved it in a later version
Feb 19 16:21:32 <JesusMcCloud> you libphoneui doesnt introduce any new bugs, does it?
Feb 19 16:21:39 <JesusMcCloud> good
Feb 19 16:21:51 * JesusMcCloud is still waiting for elm based phonelog!
Feb 19 16:21:54 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, one bug that I know of
Feb 19 16:22:05 <JesusMcCloud> which is?
Feb 19 16:22:06 <TAsn> you can't add contacts to sms :|
Feb 19 16:22:11 <TAsn> you need to go to contacts screen
Feb 19 16:22:17 <TAsn> and then send an sms to contact
Feb 19 16:22:21 <TAsn> mrmoku, is it still true? ^
Feb 19 16:23:28 <TAsn> btw, phonelog issue is because of what I explained earlier
Feb 19 16:23:34 <TAsn> (I cast on insert, not query)
Feb 19 16:23:59 <TAsn> mrmoku, are you alive?
Feb 19 16:24:36 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, please test it a bit and tell me what you think.
Feb 19 16:24:47 <JesusMcCloud> just installed your local build
Feb 19 16:25:45 <TAsn> I don't care about libphone-ui-shr that's mrmoku's evil doing :P tell me about opimd :P
Feb 19 16:25:46 <TAsn> (j/k)
Feb 19 16:27:00 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, btw, opimd's speed is still limited by python
Feb 19 16:27:10 <TAsn> but I think I did most of what possible.
Feb 19 16:27:17 <TAsn> There are probably some changes I can make
Feb 19 16:27:47 <TAsn> for instance, I can make number resolving "faster" by improving the API a bit.
Feb 19 16:28:58 * mrmoku is working on messages
Feb 19 16:29:05 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, try deleting a field in contacts
Feb 19 16:29:06 <mrmoku> have to cook something for the kids first though :P
Feb 19 16:29:08 <mrmoku> bbl
Feb 19 16:29:14 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, oh right
Feb 19 16:29:17 <TAsn> that's also a bug
Feb 19 16:29:19 <TAsn> we are aware of
Feb 19 16:29:21 <JesusMcCloud> ok
Feb 19 16:29:24 <TAsn> sorry about misleading you :P
Feb 19 16:30:25 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, another thing... when i want to add a field i can only choose between phone and cell phone (missing types again?)
Feb 19 16:31:34 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 16:31:38 <TAsn> add the types you want
Feb 19 16:31:51 <TAsn> mrmoku|away didn't yet implement it in gui
Feb 19 16:32:02 <JesusMcCloud> lemme guess... mdbus?
Feb 19 16:32:16 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 16:33:17 <JesusMcCloud> so i just need to add type to existing fields and it'll work?!
Feb 19 16:33:31 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 16:33:50 <JesusMcCloud> i dont want to add new fields so how EXATLY do i do that?
Feb 19 16:34:18 <TAsn> you'll probably hate that
Feb 19 16:34:26 <TAsn> but simplest solution
Feb 19 16:34:31 <TAsn> would be converting again 
Feb 19 16:34:35 <TAsn> using my newest script :P
Feb 19 16:35:01 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i dont care about converting (i havent added any new contacts in the past 6 hours..)
Feb 19 16:37:01 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, actually i am pretty psyched about new script... i wanna know if it works...
Feb 19 16:37:42 <TAsn> sent the remove doubles script
Feb 19 16:37:45 <TAsn> just
Feb 19 16:38:03 <TAsn> python remove "Phone" "Cell phone"
Feb 19 16:38:07 <TAsn> that'll erase all the phone fields
Feb 19 16:38:12 <TAsn> and will keep cell phone ones
Feb 19 16:38:12 <TAsn> ...
Feb 19 16:38:22 <JesusMcCloud> does it work with every field?
Feb 19 16:38:39 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 16:38:49 <TAsn> python remove "Name" "Nickname"
Feb 19 16:38:52 <TAsn> will also work :P
Feb 19 16:38:59 <TAsn> I used it for "Surname" "Name"
Feb 19 16:39:03 <TAsn> because of a bug in old opimd
Feb 19 16:40:00 <JesusMcCloud> coolio... you might want to push thsi into git somewhere?!
Feb 19 16:40:00 <TAsn> oops
Feb 19 16:40:00 <TAsn> sec
Feb 19 16:40:31 <TAsn> just replace
Feb 19 16:40:42 <TAsn> from sys import argv
Feb 19 16:40:44 <TAsn> to 
Feb 19 16:40:46 <TAsn> import sys
Feb 19 16:40:49 <TAsn> my bad :P
Feb 19 16:41:03 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, and I don't think pushing it is a good idea.
Feb 19 16:41:33 <TAsn> it's just a hackish helper script
Feb 19 16:41:39 <TAsn> I have a bunch of those lying around :P
Feb 19 16:41:47 <JesusMcCloud> might come i handy more often
Feb 19 16:42:10 <TAsn> I also have an
Feb 19 16:42:12 <TAsn> add-fields
Feb 19 16:42:22 <TAsn> script, that adds my favorite scripts to contacts :P
Feb 19 16:42:35 <TAsn> s/scripts/fields/
Feb 19 16:42:36 <apt> TAsn meant: script, that adds my favorite fields to contacts :P
Feb 19 16:43:24 <TAsn> mrmoku|away, what about your local frameworkd build? (btw, please build the newer version) You need to pass it to q-master :P
Feb 19 16:43:32 <TAsn> anyhow, I'm off, guests.
Feb 19 16:43:38 <JesusMcCloud> ciao
Feb 19 16:43:40 <TAsn> ciao.
Feb 19 16:45:35 <JesusMcCloud> any telering customer from austria here?
Feb 19 16:46:19 <JesusMcCloud> i tested with my other phone and i cannot send or receive messages
Feb 19 16:52:58 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, your convert script didnt generate types again...
Feb 19 17:24:33 <alabd> hello , mplayer playes mp4 , 3gp , wmv video formats on shr-t but intone-video does not play them , why , where is the problem ?
Feb 19 18:49:39 <GNUtoo> hi leviathan 
Feb 19 18:50:12 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, is the touchscreen the next show-stopper for palm pre?
Feb 19 18:50:16 <GNUtoo> oops hi mickeyl 
Feb 19 18:50:26 <mickeyl> morning GNUtoo 
Feb 19 18:50:37 <mickeyl> yes, if someone would work on tslib integration, that'd be cool
Feb 19 18:50:46 <mickeyl> or rather adaptation
Feb 19 18:50:59 <GNUtoo> I hope someone will do it
Feb 19 18:51:23 <mickeyl> march 4th/5th will see a coding sprint in Bremen wrt. palm pre modem
Feb 19 18:51:31 <GNUtoo> ok
Feb 19 18:51:44 <mickeyl> after that we need a touchscreen :)
Feb 19 18:51:58 <GNUtoo> btw Is it problematic if the sound is mono but works perfectly in htcdream?
Feb 19 18:52:51 <GNUtoo> btw I removed nasty hack
Feb 19 18:52:56 <mickeyl> why mono?
Feb 19 18:53:09 <mickeyl> at least via headphones people will expect stereo
Feb 19 18:53:27 <Q-Master> mickeyl: something wrong with frameworkd and fso-abyss.
Feb 19 18:53:29 <GNUtoo> because else I've buffer underruns that I should fix(will fix sooner or later)
Feb 19 18:53:45 <mickeyl> what did you settle on wrt. mixer settings now btw?
Feb 19 18:54:40 <GNUtoo> there is also mixer settings....I wonder what to do...should i fix,improve or revert leviathan implementation....because mute doesn't work
Feb 19 18:55:12 <GNUtoo> and when you change routing the other outputs aren't muted in alsamixer
Feb 19 18:55:52 <GNUtoo> maybe I should suggest leviathan a text that changes when you press the up button
Feb 19 18:57:29 <GNUtoo> like the bast boost in the freerunner but with at least 3 switches
Feb 19 18:57:41 <mickeyl> ok, so there is one important question
Feb 19 18:57:44 <mickeyl> wrt. routing
Feb 19 18:58:05 <mickeyl> can the input/outputs be mixed or just switched?
Feb 19 18:58:23 <mickeyl> since this decides how the controls should be chosen
Feb 19 18:58:28 <GNUtoo> I think it can be mixed but it resulted in a crash without proprietary driver in android
Feb 19 18:58:48 <GNUtoo> I'll find the commit
Feb 19 19:00:53 <GNUtoo> http://gitorious.org/replicant/msm7k/commit/370d37a088368ca8cc478e76c928a1ce6589495e
Feb 19 19:01:35 <GNUtoo> maybe it's possible but not with our implementation
Feb 19 19:02:25 <GNUtoo> and leviathan was right to expose only 3 controls...altough there were some for bluetooth
Feb 19 19:02:37 <GNUtoo> I bet bluez-alsa would care about them
Feb 19 19:04:32 <mickeyl> i see. ok, mixer combinations that lead to a dsp crash must not be possible via any interface
Feb 19 19:05:21 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, weird, for me it did.
Feb 19 19:05:45 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, any error messages? (/var/log/frameworkd.log?)
Feb 19 19:06:02 <TAsn> my script depends on the Contact...pickle file to exist.
Feb 19 19:06:19 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i didn't use the resulting db, because of missing types
Feb 19 19:06:59 <TAsn> no, 
Feb 19 19:07:07 <TAsn> the convert script also writes to that
Feb 19 19:07:08 <TAsn> ...
Feb 19 19:07:42 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I bet it didn't crashed with proprietary libs because they must have used same android code but we have more core things than figuring out why (maybe it's because they do noise reduction or something like this...who knows)
Feb 19 19:07:51 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, ?
Feb 19 19:07:57 <GNUtoo> s/because/and/
Feb 19 19:07:58 <apt> GNUtoo meant: mickeyl, I bet it didn't crashed with proprietary libs and they must have used same android code but we have more core things than figuring out why (maybe it's because they do noise reduction or something like this...who knows)
Feb 19 19:08:04 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, the convert script also writes to the same log file
Feb 19 19:08:16 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, oh, sorry
Feb 19 19:08:32 <TAsn> and I wonder why it didn't write, mind trying again and showing output + tail of frameworkd log?
Feb 19 19:08:36 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, were types supported in old opimd?
Feb 19 19:08:42 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 19:08:47 <TAsn> they were stored in that pickle file
Feb 19 19:08:49 <TAsn> I told you about
Feb 19 19:08:59 <TAsn> ls /etc/freesmartphone/opim/
Feb 19 19:08:59 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, not that i remember
Feb 19 19:09:09 <TAsn> what do you have there?
Feb 19 19:09:15 <TAsn> and did you use my config option for pisi?
Feb 19 19:09:31 <TAsn> (to say it's a type supporting opimd)
Feb 19 19:10:27 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, that is what i am trying to tell you, but you just keep hitting me with info: i didnt use types when convertign using pisi, and i dont have any pickle files in /etc/freesmartphone
Feb 19 19:10:41 <JesusMcCloud> /etc/freesmartphone/opim
Feb 19 19:10:46 <TAsn> if you didn't use types when converting with pisi
Feb 19 19:10:51 <TAsn> then you didn't have type in old opimd
Feb 19 19:10:59 <TAsn> so the conversion script can't take types
Feb 19 19:11:01 <TAsn> from nowhere
Feb 19 19:11:34 <JesusMcCloud> ok, i though that there may be some hardcoded types for fileds called Name and Phone and Cell phone...
Feb 19 19:11:37 <TAsn> I added to todo
Feb 19 19:11:50 <TAsn> I'll add default types in the conversion script
Feb 19 19:11:51 <TAsn> ...
Feb 19 19:12:33 <TAsn> want my add-fileds
Feb 19 19:12:35 <TAsn> script
Feb 19 19:12:40 <TAsn> just to add a default set?
Feb 19 19:15:56 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, no thx i already added my fields
Feb 19 19:16:05 <JesusMcCloud> just to make sure:
Feb 19 19:17:04 <JesusMcCloud> when i add an existign field, but with type (assuming the field had not type) then only the type will be added, and addign an existing field with different type will change type (no new fields will be created, richt?!)
Feb 19 19:17:41 <TAsn> I don't quite get you
Feb 19 19:17:50 <TAsn> but if I get you correctly, you can't overwrite a field
Feb 19 19:18:00 <TAsn> trying to add an existing field will raise an exception
Feb 19 19:18:45 <JesusMcCloud> hmm
Feb 19 19:18:52 <JesusMcCloud> whatever i did, it worked
Feb 19 19:19:17 <JesusMcCloud> i'll explain:
Feb 19 19:19:31 <TAsn> quick, as I gotta go.
Feb 19 19:19:47 <JesusMcCloud> i had somecontacts with surname but without type, the i added surname field with naem type via mdbus2
Feb 19 19:19:51 <JesusMcCloud> adn it worked
Feb 19 19:20:14 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 19:20:23 <TAsn> when you associate a field with a type
Feb 19 19:20:31 <TAsn> all the existing contacts that have type
Feb 19 19:20:38 <TAsn> get automatically updated
Feb 19 19:20:44 <TAsn> and also when you remove a type
Feb 19 19:20:54 <TAsn> all the contacts "move" the field to the generic type
Feb 19 19:21:01 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: which revision would you recommend for to update the current state in OE?
Feb 19 19:21:11 <JesusMcCloud> all clear now
Feb 19 19:21:22 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: as i'm still on deabc32225429b3c0db44f7e62d95d0d2525290b
Feb 19 19:21:27 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, maybe we should fix routing and next use that
Feb 19 19:21:34 <mickeyl> ok, sounds good
Feb 19 19:21:40 <mickeyl> ping me then
Feb 19 19:22:53 <GNUtoo> 0c68b1e8e4507090b8affbcedaac8efde6d0e9b7 has backlight,newer alsa fix but lack decent routing because we should talk betwen leviathan GNUtoo and mickeyl for routing
Feb 19 19:23:04 <GNUtoo> leviathan, is lacking now...he should come soon
Feb 19 19:23:24 <mickeyl> ok, i'll build that for now and check whether smd and qmi still works
Feb 19 19:23:34 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, btw change defconfig
Feb 19 19:23:44 <mickeyl> how?
Feb 19 19:23:48 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, the temporary alsa fix was removed
Feb 19 19:24:12 <GNUtoo> CONFIG_SND_MSM_SOC_TEMP_ALSA_FIX
Feb 19 19:24:19 <mickeyl> ok
Feb 19 19:24:21 <GNUtoo> is not anymore there
Feb 19 19:24:23 <mickeyl> what about backlight?
Feb 19 19:24:41 <GNUtoo> I fixed it...should work
Feb 19 19:24:45 <mickeyl> no, i mean defconfig
Feb 19 19:24:55 <mickeyl> know offhand how the config option is called?
Feb 19 19:27:17 <JesusMcCloud> GNUtoo, whats the biggest showstopper for htc dream atm?
Feb 19 19:27:58 <mickeyl> all kinds of RF except GSM is broken
Feb 19 19:28:11 <mickeyl> wifi, bt, gps
Feb 19 19:28:41 <mickeyl> suspend/resume has issues too
Feb 19 19:28:47 <mickeyl> but other than that, very fine
Feb 19 19:29:02 <JesusMcCloud> mickeyl, ok lemme rephrase: can one place and accept calls?
Feb 19 19:30:03 <mickeyl> IIRC with ogsmd and SHR this works
Feb 19 19:30:18 <GNUtoo> JesusMcCloud, kernel
Feb 19 19:30:19 <mickeyl> with fsogsmd as well, but on the dbus layer
Feb 19 19:30:29 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I'll look
Feb 19 19:31:07 <JesusMcCloud> mickeyl, sounds like you didnt really try
Feb 19 19:32:04 <mickeyl> true, i'm not using any UI yet
Feb 19 19:32:51 <GNUtoo> JesusMcCloud, do you want me to try? because there was this timing issue with FSO+SHR on freerunner
Feb 19 19:33:06 <GNUtoo> but I realy need my phone now....maybe later today
Feb 19 19:33:12 <mickeyl> alphaone|gone talked to me over the phone months ago though
Feb 19 19:33:14 <mickeyl> with fso
Feb 19 19:33:18 <JesusMcCloud> GNUtoo, well don't YOU want to try?
Feb 19 19:33:38 <JesusMcCloud> sounds nice
Feb 19 19:34:01 <GNUtoo> JesusMcCloud, I've to stop my freerunner,extract the sim,put it back in the htcdream and hope it work,during this time I would be unavaliable
Feb 19 19:34:01 <JesusMcCloud> as soon as the system si stable i might get myself a dream...
Feb 19 19:34:07 <GNUtoo> and I realy need phone right now
Feb 19 19:34:11 <GNUtoo> but later today I'll try
Feb 19 19:34:18 <GNUtoo> nice
Feb 19 19:34:30 <JesusMcCloud> GNUtoo, report back please
Feb 19 19:34:34 <GNUtoo> the good things about dream are:
Feb 19 19:34:48 <JesusMcCloud> KEYBOARD
Feb 19 19:34:50 <GNUtoo> *very usable keyboard if you map all the extra keys
Feb 19 19:34:55 <GNUtoo> *microsd card
Feb 19 19:35:14 <GNUtoo> palm pre has a bad keyboard and lack some space(I've a 16GB microsd-card)
Feb 19 19:35:38 <JesusMcCloud> i saw a video of shr on htc dream on youtube... quite fast...
Feb 19 19:35:49 <GNUtoo> maybe I should do a new video
Feb 19 19:35:58 <GNUtoo> on the illume tests
Feb 19 19:36:05 * mickeyl sighs because of the HTC Touch Pro's keyboard
Feb 19 19:36:56 <JesusMcCloud> GNUtoo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW6uBllUQcs
Feb 19 19:39:00 <DocScrutinizer> mickeyl: dead rubberduck?
Feb 19 19:39:20 <mickeyl> no, it's more envy
Feb 19 19:39:30 <mickeyl> touch pro is the best keyboard i've seen for long
Feb 19 19:39:37 <DocScrutinizer> oooh
Feb 19 19:39:40 <mickeyl> but it will probably never reach the dream's level of support
Feb 19 19:39:44 <mickeyl> which is kind of sad
Feb 19 19:41:18 <JesusMcCloud> mickeyl, any news on the possible race condition in frameworkd (aka no GSM)
Feb 19 19:41:49 <mickeyl> JesusMcCloud: i'm afraid not, i'm not really working on it atm.
Feb 19 19:42:04 <mickeyl> JesusMcCloud: and i have yet to see full debug logs
Feb 19 19:42:11 <mickeyl> esp. for a run that doesn't work
Feb 19 19:42:33 <JesusMcCloud> mickeyl, with loglevel= DEBUG i never had this problem...
Feb 19 19:43:16 <mickeyl> perhaps logging DEBUG into a ramfs would be better
Feb 19 19:43:51 <mickeyl> could be fast enough to still fail
Feb 19 19:44:01 <JesusMcCloud> but right now, something is wrong with my carrier (cant sedn or recieve sms even when using anotehr phone)
Feb 19 19:48:54 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, just tested
Feb 19 19:49:03 <max_posedon> may I ask generic dbus help?
Feb 19 19:49:04 <TAsn> the script now also adds a default set of fiedls
Feb 19 19:49:23 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, imho that's how ti should be
Feb 19 19:49:32 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rc62cc1bb48c6 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/convert_db/convert_db.py: Add a default set of fields to the contacts domain
Feb 19 19:49:34 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, yes.
Feb 19 19:49:35 <max_posedon> What config should I put to /etc/dbus/system.d/, which will allow process started from user max_posedon
Feb 19 19:49:48 <max_posedon> register to system bus, and being introspectable and workable
Feb 19 19:50:09 <TAsn> mickeyl, new opimd is ready :P
Feb 19 19:50:15 <TAsn> and also added many features
Feb 19 19:50:23 <TAsn> s/also/I also/
Feb 19 19:50:24 <apt> TAsn meant: and I also added many features
Feb 19 19:51:02 <mrmoku> Q-Master: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/frameworkd_0.9.5.9+gitrLOCAL-r2.4_armv4t.ipk
Feb 19 19:51:13 <TAsn> mrmoku, what about your locally built package? (get opimd>=663bae9a25c3bd51868e5c49ab10f6d00a9a11de)
Feb 19 19:51:16 <TAsn> mrmoku, what revision?
Feb 19 19:51:39 <mrmoku> TAsn: well... apparently not the one you comitted two mins ago :P
Feb 19 19:51:43 <TAsn> as you should get at least 663b... (as said above)
Feb 19 19:51:46 <TAsn> no,
Feb 19 19:51:58 <TAsn> I committed this one 3 hours ago
Feb 19 19:51:58 <mrmoku> 7c0b52bf6dd2ed3907ac3caecc834143e5672584
Feb 19 19:52:06 <TAsn> I'm just not sure whether you got it or not
Feb 19 19:52:09 <TAsn> sweet
Feb 19 19:52:11 <TAsn> that's good
Feb 19 19:52:14 <mickeyl> TAsn: awesome! great work
Feb 19 19:52:25 <TAsn> mickeyl, works amazingly well
Feb 19 19:52:29 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: ah, backlight works fine now. actual_brightness is reporting broken values though
Feb 19 19:52:29 <TAsn> a week or so of testing
Feb 19 19:52:57 <TAsn> and then write a quick doc about what changed, and maybe will merge with master.
Feb 19 19:53:02 <TAsn> mrmoku, have you tested it?
Feb 19 19:53:12 <mickeyl> excellent
Feb 19 19:53:17 <TAsn> Q-Master, mrmoku: btw, get the latest conversion script
Feb 19 19:53:24 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, are you going to test theming with newer libphone-ui-shr than the one in feeds (i just put together a theme for newer phoneui)
Feb 19 19:53:37 <TAsn> I now add a default set of fields
Feb 19 19:53:44 <TAsn> for the contacts domain
Feb 19 19:53:55 <mrmoku> TAsn: contacts work out of the box :)
Feb 19 19:54:02 <TAsn> it's needed because opimd didn't store them in a visible place.
Feb 19 19:54:02 <mrmoku> messages segfault on name resolution
Feb 19 19:54:08 <TAsn> mrmoku, yes
Feb 19 19:54:12 <TAsn> that's because you don't have types
Feb 19 19:54:22 <TAsn> (for phonenumber)
Feb 19 19:54:27 <TAsn> that's a bug I fixed in libphone-ui
Feb 19 19:54:43 <TAsn> (but can't be merged as it only works with new-opimd)
Feb 19 19:55:10 <mrmoku> [ERR]: No method  found at /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Types for org.freesmartphone.opimd
Feb 19 19:55:18 <TAsn> huh?
Feb 19 19:55:23 <mrmoku> ahh
Feb 19 19:55:25 <mrmoku> nvm
Feb 19 19:55:25 <mrmoku> :P
Feb 19 19:55:34 <TAsn> what?
Feb 19 19:55:38 <mrmoku> mdbus2 tab completion was misleading me ;)
Feb 19 19:55:50 <mrmoku> err... moment
Feb 19 19:55:59 <mrmoku> types are _not_ domain specific, right?
Feb 19 19:56:09 <TAsn> yes they are
Feb 19 19:56:15 <TAsn> oh shit, just found a bug
Feb 19 19:56:32 <Q-Master> heh
Feb 19 19:56:42 <TAsn> a typo
Feb 19 19:56:54 <TAsn> that doesn't really matter (when listing system types)
Feb 19 19:57:25 <TAsn> fixed :P
Feb 19 19:57:39 <JaMa|GoNe> mrmoku, TAsn: does e-17, shr-wizard replace passwd if I don't send one in last step?
Feb 19 19:58:02 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r919f84bde8e5 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/type_manager.py: Fixed a bug causing Types not to be listed in the Types.List dbus method
Feb 19 19:58:07 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: and the bl_power node is not respected either
Feb 19 19:58:14 <JaMa|GoNe> I always have non-empty password, which stops working after removing .e and going through shr-wizards..
Feb 19 19:58:15 <TAsn> JaMa|GoNe, I don't think so, but maybe shr-wizard is buggy
Feb 19 19:58:26 <TAsn> actually
Feb 19 19:58:31 <TAsn> surely shr-wizard is buggy
Feb 19 19:58:34 <TAsn> dos1, ^ :P
Feb 19 19:58:38 <Q-Master> TAsn, mrmoku: so could I install that new framework?
Feb 19 19:58:51 <TAsn> Q-Master, just install the package mrmoku gave you
Feb 19 19:58:56 <TAsn> http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/frameworkd_0.9.5.9+gitrLOCAL-r2.4_armv4t.ipk
Feb 19 19:59:16 <TAsn> the bug I described is irrelevant, you'll never encounter it
Feb 19 19:59:32 <Q-Master> and get newer conversion script?
Feb 19 19:59:57 <TAsn> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob_plain;f=framework/subsystems/opimd/convert_db/convert_db.py;hb=opimd-redesign
Feb 19 19:59:58 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 19:59:59 <TAsn> get this one
Feb 19 20:00:11 <TAsn> and you'll be set
Feb 19 20:03:04 <TAsn> btw, phonelog takes ~10 seconds to load
Feb 19 20:03:21 <TAsn> which is way faster than what it was (also improved phonelog itself)
Feb 19 20:04:53 <TAsn> Q-Master, and most importantly, let me know how it works :)
Feb 19 20:05:35 <Q-Master> TAsn: should I need to start that script?
Feb 19 20:05:42 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 20:05:48 <TAsn> you need to install the package
Feb 19 20:05:51 <TAsn> start the script
Feb 19 20:05:53 <TAsn> reboot
Feb 19 20:06:13 <TAsn> preferably /etc/init.d/frameworkd stop
Feb 19 20:06:16 <TAsn> before you start the script
Feb 19 20:06:21 <Q-Master> ok
Feb 19 20:06:28 <TAsn> as opimd may lock the db
Feb 19 20:06:36 <TAsn> (racy, but may happen)
Feb 19 20:07:11 <Q-Master> I've copied the new file over the later one in /usr/lib....
Feb 19 20:10:36 <Q-Master> started conversion
Feb 19 20:12:19 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, do you have some tiny overlapping characters in the upper left corner if you view a contact in detail?
Feb 19 20:13:28 <Q-Master> mrmoku: I think frameworkd should be checked upon log_level usage in code. It fails with some levels to work with abyss.
Feb 19 20:14:09 <mrmoku> Q-Master: I know... but am the wrong one to talk to :P no idea about python/frameworkd
Feb 19 20:14:49 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, what do you mean? 
Feb 19 20:15:32 <mrmoku> TAsn: upgrading restarts frameworkd... and then it creats an empty pim.db.. had to stop frameworkd and remove that file before calling the conversion script
Feb 19 20:15:34 <Q-Master> mrmoku: I'll try to check it later. No time right now/
Feb 19 20:15:40 <max_posedon> Could somebody whith dbus skills point me what is wrong? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/180228/
Feb 19 20:15:43 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i themed your build of phoneui... and now i have some text where there shoudlnt be one (i just changed colors though)
Feb 19 20:15:50 <mrmoku> Q-Master: good
Feb 19 20:15:58 <TAsn> mrmoku, that's why I said, first stop opimd, convert, and then upgrade
Feb 19 20:16:10 <mrmoku> ahh
Feb 19 20:16:21 <mrmoku> did not read that :P
Feb 19 20:16:23 <mickeyl> max_posedon: is opimd using fallback objects?
Feb 19 20:16:23 <TAsn> mrmoku, in pkg we'll probably have to
Feb 19 20:16:43 <TAsn> stop, convert start
Feb 19 20:16:47 <TAsn> mrmoku, actually
Feb 19 20:16:51 <TAsn> you have to install first
Feb 19 20:16:52 <TAsn> so nvm
Feb 19 20:17:03 <max_posedon> mickeyl, "this" opimd doesn't
Feb 19 20:17:04 <TAsn> (you need files from the package, conversion script uses that)
Feb 19 20:17:12 <max_posedon> its mine, don't be confused)
Feb 19 20:17:14 <JaMa|GoNe> JesusMcCloud: phoneui theming works for me.. after restart phonefsod and phoneuid
Feb 19 20:17:19 <max_posedon> but I have problems with this error
Feb 19 20:17:27 <max_posedon> [ERR]: No such object path 
Feb 19 20:17:36 <mickeyl> max_posedon: ah, right. perhaps you need to explicitly enable introspeciton 
Feb 19 20:17:43 <mickeyl> crosscheck with my dbus configs
Feb 19 20:17:45 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa|GoNe, are you sure? hmm someone else also reported problems
Feb 19 20:17:50 <mickeyl> e.g. in fsodeviced.conf
Feb 19 20:18:05 <TAsn> max_posedon, what are you writing?
Feb 19 20:19:00 <JaMa|GoNe> JesusMcCloud: I'm sure I see green/black contacts
Feb 19 20:19:33 <max_posedon> mickeyl, still doesn't http://paste.pocoo.org/show/180231/
Feb 19 20:19:33 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa|GoNe, open the dialer
Feb 19 20:19:43 <max_posedon> TAsn, akonadi - fsopimd brigde
Feb 19 20:19:53 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa|GoNe, also open a contact
Feb 19 20:19:56 <max_posedon> opimd implementation using akonadi+kdepimlibs as backend
Feb 19 20:20:05 <TAsn> max_posedon, as I thought, I have a suggestion if you don't mind
Feb 19 20:20:06 <max_posedon> mickeyl, and error still same
Feb 19 20:20:21 <max_posedon> TAsn, welcome
Feb 19 20:20:24 <TAsn> are you using python?
Feb 19 20:20:29 <TAsn> *writing in python?
Feb 19 20:20:37 <JaMa|GoNe> JesusMcCloud: ah yes.. it works in contacts
Feb 19 20:20:43 <max_posedon> TAsn, nope, C++
Feb 19 20:20:47 <JaMa|GoNe> JesusMcCloud: and in messages and dialer it's as before
Feb 19 20:20:51 <TAsn> then I don't have a suggestion :P
Feb 19 20:21:10 <mickeyl> max_posedon: try to free everything in the major conf, just to be sure that it's not an mdbus2 bug
Feb 19 20:21:15 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa|GoNe, but the thign is, if you replace the default..edj with neo.edj everythign si themed
Feb 19 20:21:20 <TAsn> I wanted to suggest you'd just write it as a db_handler
Feb 19 20:21:25 <TAsn> for opimd
Feb 19 20:21:28 <TAsn> but nvm
Feb 19 20:21:56 <max_posedon> mickeyl, mdbus and qdbusviewer show me same error
Feb 19 20:21:59 <TAsn> mrmoku, Q-Master: btw, converting missed calls takes FOREVER
Feb 19 20:22:00 <JaMa|GoNe> JesusMcCloud: ah, ok, now I see
Feb 19 20:22:03 <TAsn> as there are a lot
Feb 19 20:22:13 <TAsn> feel free to drop
Feb 19 20:22:15 <max_posedon> I tried different tools, so its my config issue
Feb 19 20:22:18 <TAsn> that part
Feb 19 20:22:19 <TAsn> i.e
Feb 19 20:22:24 <TAsn> ^C
Feb 19 20:22:29 <TAsn> in the script
Feb 19 20:22:47 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa|GoNe, i dont get why this happens... maybe mrmoku has an idea
Feb 19 20:23:11 <JesusMcCloud> btw mrmoku, new contact details screen is awesome!
Feb 19 20:23:45 <mickeyl> max_posedon: hmm, are you sure that QtDbus implements introspection by default?
Feb 19 20:23:46 <TAsn> mrmoku, btw, please push your new-opimd changes to libphone-ui-shr (if working) as I want to test them :P
Feb 19 20:24:09 <JesusMcCloud> (also the new edc is much nicer than current one)
Feb 19 20:24:20 <max_posedon> mickeyl, yes, in first paste I showed that all works when I do call it session bus to exactly same process
Feb 19 20:24:51 <max_posedon> (its registered to session and system bus)
Feb 19 20:25:16 <max_posedon> its still can be some qt/kde issue, but.. I though its my stupid wrong config
Feb 19 20:25:54 <Q-Master> TAsn: how to check that it is in forever loop?
Feb 19 20:26:11 <max_posedon> mickeyl, one note - process(akonadi-fsopimd) runned from max_posedon user, not from root
Feb 19 20:26:31 <TAsn> Q-Master, what? it's not stuck
Feb 19 20:26:35 <TAsn> it's just terribly slow
Feb 19 20:26:39 <Q-Master> 8)
Feb 19 20:26:52 <TAsn> you can FORCE stop it if you don't care about your phonelog entries
Feb 19 20:27:06 <max_posedon> may be qt dbus fails to register object on system bus, only to session...
Feb 19 20:27:07 <TAsn> by issuing a keyboard interrupt
Feb 19 20:27:13 <Q-Master> hehe
Feb 19 20:27:19 <Q-Master> I can wait
Feb 19 20:28:17 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, quick question: is the offset of elm_index also too far down for you in contacts?
Feb 19 20:28:41 <Q-Master> It had made >175kb already from old opimd 93kb
Feb 19 20:28:44 <Q-Master> 8)
Feb 19 20:28:49 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: that is my fault
Feb 19 20:29:00 <mrmoku> ahh 
Feb 19 20:29:00 <mrmoku> wait
Feb 19 20:29:05 <mrmoku> no, not for you :P
Feb 19 20:29:11 <mrmoku> because you don't have that yet ;)
Feb 19 20:29:25 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, just wanted to be sure (offset in edc i suppuse) and i DO have that . hehe
Feb 19 20:29:39 <nschle85> hello am new here and i have problem running my own compiled shr-unstable image
Feb 19 20:29:58 <max_posedon> TAsn, "I wanted to suggest you'd just write it as a db_handler", I'm loving idea of kde-based phone
Feb 19 20:30:02 <max_posedon> may be not on FR, but
Feb 19 20:30:18 <max_posedon> SVG interface + akonadi + etc interesting for me
Feb 19 20:30:23 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: I played around changing that the index has no part in the edc and get's added via elm
Feb 19 20:30:26 <mrmoku> and not swallowed
Feb 19 20:30:30 <mrmoku> and that you don't have :)
Feb 19 20:31:28 <nschle85> is here any developer who can help me ?
Feb 19 20:31:30 <Q-Master> finished
Feb 19 20:31:31 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, yes, that's a bug we'll solve soon hopefully.
Feb 19 20:31:42 <TAsn> max_posedon, Glib is not good enough? :P
Feb 19 20:31:47 <TAsn> Q-Master, reboot, and let me know :P
Feb 19 20:31:50 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, mrmoku can't it be worked around with offset?
Feb 19 20:32:05 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, we don't want to work around it
Feb 19 20:32:09 <TAsn> we want to do it properly
Feb 19 20:32:19 <TAsn> the rewrite mrmoku and I are doing to libphone-ui-shr will be clean
Feb 19 20:32:21 <max_posedon> TAsn, glib is good enough, but I understand how its can be hard implement
Feb 19 20:32:22 <Q-Master> rebooting now
Feb 19 20:32:26 <JesusMcCloud> prolly offset is the proper way of *adapting* to the new way...
Feb 19 20:32:43 <max_posedon> mail, calendar, birthdays/etc - different PIM staff
Feb 19 20:32:45 <TAsn> We prefer having broken cleanly written stuff, than the other way around.
Feb 19 20:33:36 <JesusMcCloud> waaahrg i again accidentally exposed somes phone number...
Feb 19 20:33:39 <JesusMcCloud> DAMMIT!
Feb 19 20:33:58 <TAsn> hehe
Feb 19 20:34:06 <JesusMcCloud> anhow now that there is a screenie
Feb 19 20:34:18 <nschle85> TAsn, after installing the compiled image, it is not possible to push any button, the button gains focus in a small area but nothing happens
Feb 19 20:34:38 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, TAsn, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/c76259f3642b9b6f061e618ce8916332.png <- upper left corner, again i ONLY changed colors
Feb 19 20:34:42 <TAsn> nschle85, no clue
Feb 19 20:35:00 <TAsn> no idea what's that
Feb 19 20:35:03 <nschle85> i compiled the image "from scratch"
Feb 19 20:35:04 <TAsn> what should be written there?
Feb 19 20:35:34 <TAsn> nschle85, still, no clue :P
Feb 19 20:35:37 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, nothing
Feb 19 20:35:42 <Q-Master> TAsn: subsystem opimd took 38.17 seconds to startup
Feb 19 20:35:51 <TAsn> JaMa|GoNe,  got a clue? (nschle85)
Feb 19 20:35:54 <TAsn> Q-Master, makes sense
Feb 19 20:35:56 <TAsn> first run
Feb 19 20:35:57 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, open up contacts and view a contact
Feb 19 20:35:59 <TAsn> it adds indexes
Feb 19 20:36:20 <TAsn> and many stuff
Feb 19 20:36:27 <TAsn> I didn't want to do in the conversion script
Feb 19 20:36:31 <Q-Master> and stuck with abyss
Feb 19 20:36:36 <Q-Master> damn
Feb 19 20:36:50 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, looks great here
Feb 19 20:36:53 <nschle85> how can i reach JaMa ?
Feb 19 20:37:05 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: baf :)
Feb 19 20:37:11 <nschle85> wow
Feb 19 20:37:18 <TAsn> nschle85, you just need to say his name 3 times
Feb 19 20:37:34 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: what buttons? in illume home screen?
Feb 19 20:37:46 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, do you have any idea what those characters are and where they come from?
Feb 19 20:37:58 <nschle85> JaMa|GoNe JaMa|GoNe JaMa|GoNe
Feb 19 20:38:10 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: and it's really strange as I built image from scratch few days ago and haven't seen any new problem with it..
Feb 19 20:38:34 <nschle85> after booting the first screen is the Language screen
Feb 19 20:39:17 <JesusMcCloud> anyways i'm gonna get me some schnitzel
Feb 19 20:39:25 <nschle85> the you can select a language (English) and Click Next but no gui element can be clicked
Feb 19 20:41:54 <mickeyl> mmh, schnitzel
Feb 19 20:41:54 <nschle85> JaMa|Gone did you understand me ?
Feb 19 20:42:00 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: Ah seen this one.. what EFL_SRCREV do you have?
Feb 19 20:42:04 <TAsn> mrmoku, here?
Feb 19 20:42:06 <Q-Master> TAsn: 2.5sec for startup! you roxx
Feb 19 20:42:13 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 20:42:19 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, ok I'll look
Feb 19 20:42:25 <TAsn> that's not important, what's really important is contact lookup
Feb 19 20:42:29 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: I've seen it with latest (which was in oe.dev, only for few mins before my revert)
Feb 19 20:42:30 <TAsn> open messages app for example :P
Feb 19 20:43:06 <nschle85> sorry i am new where can i find EFL_SRCREv ?
Feb 19 20:43:11 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc04560e5f8b0 10/fsodeviced/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
Feb 19 20:43:11 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: confs: msm routes with qdsp5, dream routes with alsa
Feb 19 20:43:11 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Also add a default fallback configuration
Feb 19 20:43:17 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: but after xserver restart from ssh it was ok, and also after another rm -rf ~/.e and restart it worked as before.. so I guessed it was just some random anomaly
Feb 19 20:43:24 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: in sane-srcrevs.inc
Feb 19 20:43:39 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: or if you show me version of ie e-wm package
Feb 19 20:43:53 <nschle85> mom
Feb 19 20:44:03 <mrmoku> TAsn: somehow
Feb 19 20:44:12 <TAsn> frame_edit_*
Feb 19 20:44:14 <TAsn> is it used?
Feb 19 20:44:19 <TAsn> and please push your changes 
Feb 19 20:44:27 <TAsn> I want to play with libphone-ui-shr as well
Feb 19 20:44:37 <Q-Master> TAsn: seems everything is ok yet
Feb 19 20:44:45 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 20:44:49 <mrmoku> TAsn: frame_edit where? contacts?
Feb 19 20:44:57 <TAsn> contact-show
Feb 19 20:45:35 <Q-Master> mrmoku: when do we will have a mutiple phone calling from contacts?
Feb 19 20:45:55 <TAsn> dos1, here?
Feb 19 20:46:03 <TAsn> dos1, quick Q
Feb 19 20:46:09 <mrmoku> TAsn: need a moment and something to eat first
Feb 19 20:46:18 <TAsn> mrmoku, okie.
Feb 19 20:46:27 <mrmoku> Q-Master: soonish
Feb 19 20:46:27 <TAsn> I need an edje expert, anyone here?
Feb 19 20:46:45 <Q-Master> good
Feb 19 20:46:46 <TAsn> mrmoku, ping me when you are back, I need your help. :P
Feb 19 20:46:51 <mrmoku> k
Feb 19 20:47:06 <TAsn> Q-Master, JesusMcSCHNITZEL, mrmoku: I want complete reports about new opimd by tomorrow
Feb 19 20:47:09 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 20:47:19 <TAsn> As I want to polish it for release.
Feb 19 20:47:53 <nschle85> JaMa|GoNe e-wm_0.16.999.060+svnr46111-r11.4_armv4t.ipk
Feb 19 20:48:17 <JaMa|GoNe> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=eebdc1719a09454af2d9885813ca1e170d8168f3
Feb 19 20:48:25 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: so it should be safe
Feb 19 20:48:37 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: can you ssh in and restart xserver?
Feb 19 20:48:45 <JaMa|GoNe> just to see the error in terminal?
Feb 19 20:49:14 <JesusMcSCHNITZEL> mickeyl, u seen hoodwinked? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRh472pMtk
Feb 19 20:49:50 <nschle85> can you wait 10 minutes please ? i installed android :-(
Feb 19 20:50:47 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: I'll leave in 5.. so it's ok if you try anytime later
Feb 19 20:50:54 <Q-Master> TAsn: I'll try to think something out. 8)
Feb 19 20:50:57 <mickeyl> JesusMcSCHNITZEL: hehe
Feb 19 20:51:18 <nschle85> how can we stay in contact ?
Feb 19 20:51:38 <nschle85> i made a bug entry in shr TRAC
Feb 19 20:51:43 * Q-Master to bed
Feb 19 20:53:04 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: ping me here.. if you find something..
Feb 19 20:53:33 <nschle85> how does the ping work ?  is it a IRC function ?
Feb 19 20:53:34 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: I would expect it will go away itself.. or you can try that newer EFL_SRCREV in your build.. 
Feb 19 20:53:50 <nschle85> I have a last question 
Feb 19 20:53:54 <nschle85> please
Feb 19 20:54:00 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: no.. I'm always here.. and if you use my nick I'll see it later..
Feb 19 20:54:29 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: so its common to use just "nick: ping" as it highlights nick..
Feb 19 20:55:08 <nschle85> every time i build shr unstable from scratch the image ceation fails because some gst packages are missing
Feb 19 20:55:21 <nschle85> if i bitbake these packe 
Feb 19 20:55:26 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: you're building lite image right?
Feb 19 20:55:30 <nschle85> packages the image is created
Feb 19 20:55:43 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: build gst-plugins-bad and gst-plugins-ugly manually
Feb 19 20:55:44 <nschle85> yes
Feb 19 20:56:04 <nschle85> but when will this be fixed ?
Feb 19 20:56:30 <nschle85> in tinderbox all seems to be fine
Feb 19 20:56:41 <JaMa|GoNe> I'm fixing it right now..
Feb 19 20:56:48 <nschle85> thanks
Feb 19 20:57:00 <JaMa|GoNe> but would be nice for someone to confirm that -bad and -ugly is right combination..
Feb 19 20:57:21 <nschle85> i used gst-meta-base
Feb 19 20:57:30 <JaMa|GoNe> because with shr-image build (full) I have all gst-plugins already.. so I'm not sure -bad and -ugly is minimal
Feb 19 20:57:30 <nschle85> but is may be too much
Feb 19 20:57:31 <max_posedon> good/bad/ugly is different collections of codes
Feb 19 20:58:02 <max_posedon> good - open and written good
Feb 19 20:58:08 <max_posedon> bad - open and written bad
Feb 19 20:58:23 <max_posedon> ugly - closed/proprietary/etc
Feb 19 20:58:37 <JaMa|GoNe> max_posedon: do you remember if those are from -bad + -ugly? http://www.pastebin.cz/32404
Feb 19 20:58:54 <JaMa|GoNe> max_posedon: I know its written on gstreamer web
Feb 19 20:59:16 <JaMa|GoNe> but no time to check them all now.. as gf is waiting for me to dress up :)
Feb 19 20:59:23 <nschle85> i can check it
Feb 19 20:59:46 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: ok, please check and let me know.. I'll commit the fix tomorrow, thanks
Feb 19 20:59:49 <nschle85> i can mak an clean build this night
Feb 19 21:00:32 <nschle85> ok i try -bad and -ugly until the image is created
Feb 19 21:00:43 <spaetzAway> mmmh, screen  calibration does  not seem to work in the shhr-testing caandidate
Feb 19 21:00:49 <max_posedon> JaMa|GoNe, I suggest install good and bad
Feb 19 21:00:53 <nschle85> please look into TRAC i entered the bug there
Feb 19 21:01:08 <nschle85> i will enter my resuklts there
Feb 19 21:01:10 <max_posedon> should be enough, but... I'm not sure)
Feb 19 21:01:11 <mrmoku> TAsn: back
Feb 19 21:01:25 <TAsn> mrmoku, when can I learn proper edje hacking from?
Feb 19 21:01:39 <mrmoku> TAsn: for sure not from me ;)
Feb 19 21:01:50 <JaMa|GoNe> mrmoku: ok thanks..
Feb 19 21:01:52 * JaMa|GoNe off
Feb 19 21:01:56 <TAsn> mrmoku, anyhow
Feb 19 21:02:03 <TAsn> please push your changes to the branch
Feb 19 21:02:08 <TAsn> I feel like Cing a bit
Feb 19 21:02:09 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 21:02:17 <mrmoku> TAsn: well... there is not much to push
Feb 19 21:02:27 <TAsn> so don't :P
Feb 19 21:02:27 <mrmoku> pushed already almost everything from contacts
Feb 19 21:02:48 <TAsn> mrmoku, btw, what about opimd, installed?
Feb 19 21:02:57 <nschle85> JaMa|GoNe bye
Feb 19 21:03:14 <TAsn> oh, and what about libfso-glib?
Feb 19 21:03:18 <mrmoku> TAsn: yeah, installed
Feb 19 21:03:24 <TAsn> works? :P
Feb 19 21:03:25 <CIA-60> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rd7242edfe0c4 10/src/phoneui-contacts.c: phoneui-contacts.c: remove unneeded header
Feb 19 21:03:29 <CIA-60> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r2632d13a7eea 10/src/view/contact-view.c: contact-view.c: use g_hash_table_unref instead of destroy
Feb 19 21:03:58 <mrmoku> TAsn: contacts work
Feb 19 21:04:08 <mrmoku> the types I don't know how to add :P
Feb 19 21:04:35 <TAsn> mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Con
Feb 19 21:04:35 <TAsn> tacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.ListFields
Feb 19 21:04:37 <TAsn> what do you get?
Feb 19 21:05:10 <TAsn> to add:
Feb 19 21:05:14 <TAsn> mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.AddField Phone phonenumber
Feb 19 21:05:45 <mrmoku> MDBUS2> org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.AddField Phone phonenumber
Feb 19 21:05:48 <mrmoku> ()
Feb 19 21:06:10 <mrmoku> worked
Feb 19 21:07:10 <TAsn> duh :P
Feb 19 21:07:13 <TAsn> add fields like that
Feb 19 21:08:06 <TAsn> btw, quick favor
Feb 19 21:08:12 <mrmoku> and messages does not segfault anymore :P
Feb 19 21:08:27 <TAsn> mind adding shutdown to ousage frameworkd-glib?
Feb 19 21:10:04 * TAsn is writing quick-settings
Feb 19 21:16:01 <GNUtoo> hi leviathan still not there?
Feb 19 21:24:36 <nschle85> question: sometimes my build is broken, because some dependent packages are not rebuild. How should i handle updates in conjunction with build process ? because i dont want to rebuild from scratch so often.
Feb 19 21:25:47 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * rbe8b61dfe595 10/src/ousaged/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
Feb 19 21:25:47 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: ousaged: add shutdown method
Feb 19 21:25:47 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Feb 19 21:25:47 <mrmoku> TAsn: here you go
Feb 19 21:26:16 <nschle85> current problem pixman_0.17.6.bb do_compile failed
Feb 19 21:26:25 <TAsn> thanks
Feb 19 21:26:40 <nschle85> i made an make update; make image 
Feb 19 21:27:24 <nschle85> is anyone interested of the error in the logfile ?
Feb 19 21:28:34 <GNUtoo> mickey|bbl, still there?
Feb 19 21:28:57 <GNUtoo> if I don't read the value from the hardware but read it from internal driver variable is it ok ?
Feb 19 21:34:21 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, "proper edje hacking" -> docs.enlightenment.org or bug dos
Feb 19 21:35:17 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, (bug dos) didn't you see the "<TAsn> dos1, here?" I've been sending every couple of minutes? :P
Feb 19 21:35:30 <dos1> ?
Feb 19 21:35:32 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, hmm
Feb 19 21:35:35 <TAsn> WTH?!
Feb 19 21:35:37 <TAsn> dos1, !
Feb 19 21:35:40 <JesusMcCloud> lol
Feb 19 21:35:41 <TAsn> teach me your ways
Feb 19 21:42:32 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, u guys in private chat or, did he ignore you because of what you did to opimd :-p ?
Feb 19 21:42:55 <TAsn> both
Feb 19 21:42:58 <TAsn> he's ignoring me in private
Feb 19 21:42:59 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 21:51:28 <spaetzAway> I can tap on the 4 crosses, but then I can't hit the next dialogs ...
Feb 19 21:51:52 <spaetz> does that xcalibrate thingie work?
Feb 19 21:52:50 <nschle85> TAsn: why does shr-unstable does not compile so often ?
Feb 19 21:53:02 <TAsn> nschle85, no idea what you are talking about
Feb 19 21:53:39 <nschle85> TAsn: pixman_0.17.6.bb, do_compile) failed
Feb 19 21:53:52 <nschle85> 2 minutes ago
Feb 19 21:53:54 <TAsn> no idea
Feb 19 21:57:09 <nschle85> Tasn: what i really want to talk about is an Merge manager. In the company where i am working every developer has to work on branches and our KM manager merges the changes and verifies that they will compile.
Feb 19 21:57:25 <TAsn> that's what we do
Feb 19 21:57:37 <TAsn> pixman is not your responsibility
Feb 19 21:57:39 <TAsn> it's OE
Feb 19 21:57:44 <TAsn> your = our
Feb 19 21:58:47 <nschle85> TAsn: but why is an pixman change going into shr branch ?
Feb 19 21:59:08 <TAsn> that you should ask JaMa|GoNe 
Feb 19 21:59:45 <nschle85> why ? has he merged the change into shr branch ?
Feb 19 21:59:57 <TAsn> I assume he did
Feb 19 22:00:00 <TAsn> I really don't know
Feb 19 22:00:03 <TAsn> I don't touch OE
Feb 19 22:01:05 <nschle85> so your != our
Feb 19 22:04:30 <max_posedon> pixman had some issues on armv4/armv5
Feb 19 22:04:32 <nschle85> TAsn: we are heavily using ACE+TAO. If the version of ACE+TAO changes we check it and if a new version works it is tagged for further use 
Feb 19 22:04:38 <max_posedon> I remember fights with it on gentoo
Feb 19 22:05:17 <max_posedon> nschle85, could you show log?
Feb 19 22:05:44 <nschle85> max_poseidon: yes, mom
Feb 19 22:07:31 <nschle85> max_poseidon: link: cannot find the library `/home/nschle85/shr-build/shr-unstable/tmp/staging/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libpixman-1.la' or unhandled argument `/home/nschle85/shr-build/shr-unstable/tmp/staging/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libpixman-1.la'
Feb 19 22:07:47 <max_posedon> ah, its smth completly different
Feb 19 22:08:20 <max_posedon> can't help, sorry
Feb 19 22:08:21 <nschle85> max_poseidon: what do you mean ?
Feb 19 22:13:40 <nschle85> TAsn: i think (please dont be angry) the development process of shr is very fault intolerant, everybody can commit everything and changes from other repositories are taken without check. 
Feb 19 22:14:01 <TAsn> nschle85, I agree. :P
Feb 19 22:14:02 <TAsn> kinda
Feb 19 22:14:10 <TAsn> I mean, in shr-unstable
Feb 19 22:14:12 <TAsn> we do whatever we please
Feb 19 22:14:21 <TAsn> in shr-testing we are *very* conservative
Feb 19 22:14:41 <TAsn> we don't even enforce commits compilation in our own apps
Feb 19 22:15:20 <TAsn> and sorry that I'm only partially here
Feb 19 22:15:39 <TAsn> and not very responsive
Feb 19 22:15:55 <nschle85> no problem
Feb 19 22:18:19 <spaetz> nschle85, SHR is a distro deriving from openembedded unstable. So we get whatever they commit. and thhat is a lot of commits.
Feb 19 22:18:36 <nschle85> i am developing software in industry and here in shr the world is very different, i would like to give some hints what could be better without taking the wrong words
Feb 19 22:19:26 <nschle85> spaetz: thats what i learned :-)
Feb 19 22:19:46 <spaetz> we don't have the resources to test every merge. Everyonee knows that we should, but we only have 1-2 guys touching openembedded stuff at all.
Feb 19 22:20:35 <nschle85> spaetz: i think it would be better to get the commits in distinct bunches and not whenever a change in openembedded is done
Feb 19 22:21:19 <spaetz> and where should we get a nerge manager when we don't even have a stable branch manager. and if i didn't volunteer to create shr-testing, we wouldn't have a testing brancch eitherr.
Feb 19 22:21:42 <max_posedon> nschle85, bunches means that a lot of problem will come in 1 time
Feb 19 22:21:53 <max_posedon> its much easier solve them one-by-one
Feb 19 22:22:05 <max_posedon> and its really important in OSS world, that sometimes
Feb 19 22:22:12 <max_posedon> shr can just report issues to OE
Feb 19 22:22:21 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r8e06c36b1063 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO pimd_calls.py pimd_messages.py): Added indexing on the date type in messages and calls, makes retrieving calls and messages a lot faster
Feb 19 22:22:24 <spaetz> we do only merge from  upstream from time to time. but there are MANY commits in OE and most are unrelated to what we do.
Feb 19 22:22:29 <max_posedon> and being usefull for others distros
Feb 19 22:22:50 <spaetz> so it really boils down to a lack of resources.
Feb 19 22:23:25 <spaetz> but we'd be happy to accept you as our merge manager... ;)
Feb 19 22:23:55 <TAsn> weepee, last commit cut down phonelog's loading time by 3 seconds :P
Feb 19 22:24:24 <spaetz> no one has an idea about that xcalibrate thing? mmh, need to ask Jama on Sunday, i'll be gone tomorrow.
Feb 19 22:24:38 <max_posedon> TAsn, 1-2 similar commints more, and people will forget that its python-based)
Feb 19 22:24:44 <nschle85> spaetz,max_posedon you are right but with the current strategy you are always one step behind OE
Feb 19 22:24:56 <max_posedon> nschle85, its not bad
Feb 19 22:25:00 <mrmoku> spaetz: it works for me
Feb 19 22:25:18 <max_posedon> because one step is nothing here
Feb 19 22:25:40 <spaetz> weird. i can hit the 4 crosses, but no diallog buttons..
Feb 19 22:25:46 <TAsn> max_posedon, lol yeah :P
Feb 19 22:26:24 <nschle85> spaetz: do i have the same Proplem ?
Feb 19 22:26:29 <nschle85> Problem ?
Feb 19 22:26:39 <spaetz> 1 step behind OE unstable is a good thing. lot's of compile breakage going in...
Feb 19 22:27:05 <nschle85> yep
Feb 19 22:27:36 <spaetz> nschle85, not sure. why? just trying a new shr-testing candidate, but without working x...
Feb 19 22:27:54 <nschle85> spaetz: i also cannot press any button
Feb 19 22:28:58 <nschle85> since a few days
Feb 19 22:29:14 <spaetz> sounds like it...
Feb 19 22:29:17 <nschle85> a clean make image does not help
Feb 19 22:29:47 <spaetz> shr-t candidate was branched offf a few days ago.
Feb 19 22:30:17 <nschle85> i made a bug entry im shr TRAC #965
Feb 19 22:33:12 <spaetz> yep, sounds like it.
Feb 19 22:33:53 <spaetz> so annoying.
Feb 19 22:34:42 <nschle85> spaetz: thats the problem i mean: the developers commit their changes and do not complile against the current main/trunk version
Feb 19 22:35:08 <nschle85> I have this problem since ~2 weeks !
Feb 19 22:35:43 <nschle85> and nobody seemed to recognise it
Feb 19 22:35:50 <spaetz> ohh they do. as you heard, it works for mrmoku.
Feb 19 22:36:19 <spaetz> they are all on shr/unstable....
Feb 19 22:36:33 <nschle85> but did they a clean build ?
Feb 19 22:37:31 <spaetz> we do clean rebuiilds from ttime to time, but as a rebuild takes up to 2 days on my box, I don´t do it too often...
Feb 19 22:38:09 <nschle85> tinderbox tells since days allis ok
Feb 19 22:38:11 <spaetz> and our build host is way too slow to rebuild from scratch continously...
Feb 19 22:38:22 <nschle85> thats the problem
Feb 19 22:38:48 <nschle85> but shr-lite-image does not build since several weeks !
Feb 19 22:39:19 <spaetz> not true
Feb 19 22:39:35 <spaetz> i recompiled from scratch 4 days ago.
Feb 19 22:39:42 <nschle85> you need to bitbake some gst packages and build will success 
Feb 19 22:39:42 <spaetz> worked fine here.
Feb 19 22:40:28 <spaetz> yes, that´s a bug in bitbake apparently which doesn´t resolve dependeencies correctly
Feb 19 22:40:29 <nschle85> make image does definetily not work since weeks
Feb 19 22:40:45 <spaetz> or so Jama has told me.
Feb 19 22:41:44 <spaetz> as I said,  we currently only have 1 guy touching OE upstream stuff... :-(
Feb 19 22:41:53 <nschle85> i would like to test the fix of JaMa but i cannot build an image because a component does not compile
Feb 19 22:43:22 <nschle85> this guy does not make control builds
Feb 19 22:43:22 <spaetz> personally, I am not too fond of Openeembedded, and its build system...
Feb 19 22:45:05 <nschle85> i know
Feb 19 22:45:36 <nschle85> but i think shr is a good distribution but development is very hard
Feb 19 22:45:51 <spaetz> yep :-)
Feb 19 22:47:35 <nschle85> spaetz: do you have a hint for me when to update ?
Feb 19 22:48:24 <nschle85> what are you doing if your sandbox does not generate an image ?
Feb 19 22:48:52 <spaetz> with the dialog button issue? As I have no clue what the problem is, I don´t know.
Feb 19 22:49:30 <nschle85> what i dont understand is why nobody else has this problem
Feb 19 22:49:32 <spaetz> as for the image build, gst-plugins-good|bad|ugly were requiredd, I think
Feb 19 22:50:04 <nschle85> | or ?
Feb 19 22:50:14 <nschle85> or | == and ?
Feb 19 22:51:38 <spaetz> I compiled all 3 of them and that solved it.
Feb 19 22:52:13 <nschle85> i compiled gst-meta-base and it worked too
Feb 19 22:52:21 <spaetz> there are some gst-plugins missing and I don´t know in which package they were.
Feb 19 22:52:27 <spaetz> ahh, ok...
Feb 19 22:52:38 <nschle85> but this may be too much
Feb 19 22:52:50 <nschle85> what is the strategy ?
Feb 19 22:53:24 <nschle85> less as possible or much as possible ?
Feb 19 22:54:09 <spaetz> compiling? as little as possible....
Feb 19 22:54:57 <nschle85> ok
Feb 19 22:55:39 <nschle85> and content ? stable as possible or newest as possible ?
Feb 19 22:57:28 <spaetz> as close to upstream OE as possible for shr-unstable and very conservative for shr-testing.
Feb 19 22:57:55 <nschle85> hmm
Feb 19 22:58:30 <nschle85> question: how is shr-testing related to OE ?
Feb 19 22:58:57 <spaetz> shr-u often NEEDS upgrades to on the edge revisions to fix bugs, unfortunately. especially for enlightenment/illume stuff.
Feb 19 22:59:33 <nschle85> how does commits to OE affect shr-testing ? 
Feb 19 23:00:04 <nschle85> is OE complitely branched for shr-testing ?
Feb 19 23:00:11 <spaetz> I branch shr-testing off shr-unstable at a certain point and only cherry pick fixes from shr/unstable
Feb 19 23:01:18 <spaetz> so commits to OE won´t affect shr-testing.
Feb 19 23:01:25 <DocScrutinizer> [announcement] Namechange: #neo1973-germany is now known as #openmoko-de. Old chan name will forward
Feb 19 23:01:45 <nschle85> ok
Feb 19 23:02:04 <spaetz> until I branch off a new one at least :-)
Feb 19 23:03:27 <nschle85> and the new branch may be unusable in worst caste. True ?
Feb 19 23:04:35 <spaetz> sure.
Feb 19 23:05:20 <spaetz> but I don´t expect to do that often. (mainly because of time constraints)
Feb 19 23:06:39 <nschle85> i think the testing branch is a good thing, its like we are working in our company
Feb 19 23:08:56 <nschle85> how often is shr-testing created ?
Feb 19 23:09:15 <spaetz> yes, but theres not much time going into the testing branch.... I just created it because I think it´s crucial andd no one else did for several months.....
Feb 19 23:09:45 <spaetz> anyway, bed time here. night...
Feb 19 23:10:02 <nschle85> bye iam watching olympia
Feb 19 23:20:20 <lindi-> hmm, just managed to make the openmoko emit very high frequency noise
Feb 19 23:23:17 <[Rui]> lindi-: something reproductible or was that an "oops" moment? :D
Feb 19 23:23:25 <lindi-> [Rui]: totally reproducible
Feb 19 23:23:34 <lindi-> [Rui]: just run http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/amixer.txt
Feb 19 23:24:18 <[Rui]> lindi-: what where you trying to do?
Feb 19 23:24:32 <lindi-> i'm going to exploit high frequency noise in my next ringtone :P
Feb 19 23:24:42 <[Rui]> anyway, somehow I doubt that can be used as an extremely annoying ring tone... :(
Feb 19 23:25:01 <[Rui]> lindi-: you'll be my hero if you do that!
Feb 19 23:25:38 <[Rui]> lindi-: currently (granted not on the freerunner) I have a short cut from Doctor Who (basically a Dalek yelling Exterminate, the death ray and people screaming)
Feb 19 23:25:53 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i have a contact called Richi@Work well, name-to-number doesnt work keeps diplaying another name
Feb 19 23:26:05 <lindi-> [Rui]: anyways, the real goal was this: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/amixer2.txt
Feb 19 23:26:11 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, what do you query
Feb 19 23:26:14 <TAsn> and how do you query it?
Feb 19 23:26:18 <JesusMcCloud> i call it
Feb 19 23:26:19 <lindi-> [Rui]: it shows exactly what registers are changed by the alsa commands
Feb 19 23:26:35 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, in the sanse of giving richi a call
Feb 19 23:26:41 <JesusMcCloud> ..phonecall
Feb 19 23:26:46 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: ping?
Feb 19 23:27:01 <DocScrutinizer> pong
Feb 19 23:27:03 <TAsn> hm
Feb 19 23:27:09 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, /etc/phoneuid.conf
Feb 19 23:27:11 <TAsn> change to debug
Feb 19 23:27:14 <TAsn> and provide the log
Feb 19 23:27:18 <JesusMcCloud> other contacts seem to work
Feb 19 23:27:24 <TAsn> (don't pub it, will contain phone number)
Feb 19 23:27:37 <JesusMcCloud> (and it looks like my phone doesnt wake up from suspend when getting a call...)
Feb 19 23:28:18 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i generated a list of amixer commands that should exercise all possible values for all possible alsa controls and then logged what wm8753 registers get written. not sure how useful this is but it was the easiest way to extract "alsa id -> register/bit number" mapping
Feb 19 23:28:44 <DocScrutinizer> coool shit :)
Feb 19 23:29:32 <JesusMcCloud> false alarm regarding resume
Feb 19 23:29:34 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, that's not my fault :P
Feb 19 23:29:36 <TAsn> ok
Feb 19 23:29:37 <TAsn> :P
Feb 19 23:29:58 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, do oyu still have my pim.db?
Feb 19 23:30:32 <TAsn> yes
Feb 19 23:30:34 <TAsn> I think
Feb 19 23:31:04 <JesusMcCloud> both seem a little off: richi: nu name displayed in call screen, richi@work: wrong name displayed in call screen
Feb 19 23:31:08 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: originally I was just trying to figure out if it is possible to play audio using the headset earpiece instead of the larger speaker. wiki says "Should be possible but not tested"
Feb 19 23:31:18 <JesusMcCloud> (will edit phoneuid
Feb 19 23:31:23 <JesusMcCloud> config to debug now
Feb 19 23:31:27 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: also a good testscript for wm8753.c driver
Feb 19 23:31:47 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: yep
Feb 19 23:31:57 <TAsn> shit, seems like I found a bug
Feb 19 23:32:12 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: not very elegant implementation though, i'm reading /dev/mem
Feb 19 23:32:15 <JesusMcCloud> and for heavans sake, someone CHANGE THE DEFAULT RINGTONE!
Feb 19 23:32:18 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: redirecting speaker output to earpoiece is simple
Feb 19 23:32:23 <TAsn> or more correctly, a lack of feature
Feb 19 23:32:52 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: so if we start from speakerout.state I'll try to figure out which amixer commands i need to issue
Feb 19 23:32:57 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, and also try
Feb 19 23:33:10 <TAsn> opimd-cli c query \$phonenumber HISNUMBER
Feb 19 23:33:19 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i mean "stereoout.state", sorry
Feb 19 23:33:32 <DocScrutinizer> level up the earpiece mixer and mux (something 3..7)
Feb 19 23:33:42 <JesusMcCloud> dammit, where's dos1 when you need him...
Feb 19 23:36:02 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: so i'm looking at http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/ALSA/doc/WM8753_control_diag.pdf and the wm8753 register map and then this http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/amixer2.txt
Feb 19 23:36:35 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: earpiece is in LOUT2/ROUT2?
Feb 19 23:37:05 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: yes
Feb 19 23:37:39 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r70ebea3f0d3b 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py): Change list to dict in the python way of doing stuff
Feb 19 23:37:40 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r388b46d6b87b 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/db_handler.py: Fixed a bug with querying for entries with multiple fields
Feb 19 23:41:04 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: you just level up #4, and check for ROUT2INV to be set
Feb 19 23:41:17 <spaetzzZ> JesusMcCloud, just push a new ringtone. it won´t change itself :-).
Feb 19 23:41:30 * spaetzzZ  continues to sleep
Feb 19 23:41:50 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: probably you also want to level down #3
Feb 19 23:42:05 <JesusMcCloud> hmmm that's apossibility
Feb 19 23:42:25 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, move to private (short log, REALLY short)
Feb 19 23:42:33 <TAsn> ok
Feb 19 23:43:02 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: ok, i'll start writing my thoughts to http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/earpiece.txt
Feb 19 23:45:49 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: of course you want to output a mono signal when using erpiece to playback sound. Any stereo components in the signal would not work like expected
Feb 19 23:46:33 <DocScrutinizer> not a big issue though
Feb 19 23:54:01 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: level down #3 to zero?
Feb 19 23:54:41 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: well if you don't want sound from speaker, then yes
Feb 19 23:55:48 <DocScrutinizer> OUT1VOL;  numid=3,name='Headphone Playback Volume' *)NEW:'Speaker Playback Volume'
Feb 19 23:55:54 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: ok. with the commands in http://iki.fi/lindi/earpiece.txt I can hear nothing if I run "speaker-test -c1"
Feb 19 23:56:19 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: ok. with the commands in http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/earpiece.txt I can hear nothing if I run "speaker-test -c1"
Feb 19 23:58:40 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: amixer -qc0 cset numid=04,name=Speaker Playback Volume 0,127  ->127,127
Feb 19 23:59:07 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: also I've never seen to give name= AND numid= parameter to alsamixer
Feb 19 23:59:11 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: still totally silent
Feb 20 00:00:05 <DocScrutinizer> amixer -qc0 cset numid=52,name=ROUT2 Phase 1    this won't work??
Feb 20 00:00:42 <leviathan> mickey|bbl: ok
Feb 20 00:00:44 <leviathan> sry
Feb 20 00:00:44 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: won't work?
Feb 20 00:00:47 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: amixer -qc0 cset numid=04,name=Speaker Playback Volume 0,127 this won't work as well
Feb 20 00:00:50 <leviathan> was away the whole evening
Feb 20 00:01:21 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i thought 52 controlled the ROUT2INV part
Feb 20 00:02:27 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: $0=amixer $1=qc0 $2=cset $3=numid=04,name=Speaker $4=Playback $5=Volume $6=0,127
Feb 20 00:02:43 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: >>>>also I've never seen to give name= AND numid= parameter to alsamixer
Feb 20 00:02:45 <lindi-> ah whoops, quotes
Feb 20 00:03:41 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i added quotes but still don't hear anything
Feb 20 00:03:48 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: >>>>also I've never seen to give name= AND numid= parameter to alsamixer
Feb 20 00:04:51 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i wrote a program that reads alsa state and generates it into those amixer commands and then verified that it is able to identically set the alsa states with amixer but of course there could be some bugs
Feb 20 00:05:01 <lindi-> s/it into//
Feb 20 00:05:01 <apt> lindi- meant: DocScrutinizer: i wrote a program that reads alsa state and generates  those amixer commands and then verified that it is able to identically set the alsa states with amixer but of course there could be some bugs
Feb 20 00:05:52 <DocScrutinizer> I suggest to scatch the ",name= foo bla" part completely
Feb 20 00:06:16 <DocScrutinizer> amixer -qc0 cset numid=04 127,127 should suffice
Feb 20 00:06:42 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: http://paste.debian.net/60544/
Feb 20 00:08:07 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i can try that too
Feb 20 00:08:50 <DocScrutinizer> also maybe ommit the -q to get same feedback as in your pastebin
Feb 20 00:08:52 <DocScrutinizer> :-)
Feb 20 00:09:30 <lindi-> http://paste.debian.net/60545/
Feb 20 00:10:35 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: see :numid=92,name='DAPM Handset Spk Switch'    new:'DAPM Earpiece Switch'
Feb 20 00:11:14 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: that seems to do the trick
Feb 20 00:11:35 <nschle85> TAsn: what is the right platform for bugs to be published (shr trac, shr developer blog, irc) ?
Feb 20 00:11:38 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: thanks
Feb 20 00:11:43 <DocScrutinizer> yw
Feb 20 00:11:46 <DocScrutinizer> :-))
Feb 20 00:11:55 <TAsn> nschle85, trac
Feb 20 00:11:57 <TAsn> thanks
Feb 20 00:12:00 <TAsn> for reporting
Feb 20 00:12:01 <TAsn> btw
Feb 20 00:12:17 <DocScrutinizer> all your investigating of these issues highly appreciated
Feb 20 00:12:33 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: so control 92 is R22:5-6
Feb 20 00:12:53 <DocScrutinizer> if you say this :-)
Feb 20 00:12:55 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: which is "ROUT2 enable" and "LOUT2 enable"
Feb 20 00:13:09 <DocScrutinizer> yep, I guess that's correct
Feb 20 00:13:41 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: any suggestions on how to make all this bit more userfriendly?
Feb 20 00:13:56 <DocScrutinizer> see, I spent days to find the *new: names
Feb 20 00:14:11 <nschle85> TAsn: but why are most of them not assigned or accepted ? 
Feb 20 00:14:30 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: why have the names not been changed in kernel?
Feb 20 00:14:34 <DocScrutinizer> and I hoped larsc eventually would include the "more userfriendly" names into wm8753.c aliases
Feb 20 00:14:54 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: aliases sound even more confusing. i'd like to have unique name for each control
Feb 20 00:15:07 <DocScrutinizer> they'd be unique
Feb 20 00:15:08 <TAsn> nschle85, because I'm the only one really assigning or accepting :(
Feb 20 00:15:27 <TAsn> and I don't get around to do it for everything (and mostly the bugs are already assigned correctly)
Feb 20 00:15:30 <DocScrutinizer> aliasing here is a synonym for macjhine dependent renaming
Feb 20 00:15:36 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: poking wm8753 registers directly is imho easier than figuring out what alsa controls touch what registers
Feb 20 00:15:42 <TAsn> but the buglist is in my rss
Feb 20 00:15:46 <TAsn> so nothing goes by
Feb 20 00:15:49 <TAsn> unnoticed
Feb 20 00:15:56 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: ack
Feb 20 00:17:30 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: so... if we add "alsa control => wm8753 registers" mapping to the control diagram people should be able to read wm8753 register map and control diagram and use amixer to control audio routing
Feb 20 00:17:47 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: anyway you're free to pester larsc or whoever may be in charge, to do those aliasing / renaming thing. We already agreed the names are utterly wrong. I spent a lot of time trying to figure better names
Feb 20 00:18:37 <DocScrutinizer> no all that's missing is implementing the new names
Feb 20 00:19:07 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: good names are important but that zoomable diagram is almost enough on its own
Feb 20 00:19:45 <lindi-> .. if you know what alsa controls touch those mystical register numbers that are on the diagram :P
Feb 20 00:20:22 <DocScrutinizer> there was a guy last year who promised he'll do some JS augmented webpage to control the mixer directly via clicking the diagram :-P
Feb 20 00:20:26 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: having this mapping makes it possible to write a simulation of the audio routing too btw
Feb 20 00:21:03 <lindi-> i don't really fancy JS but maybe a GTK app :)
Feb 20 00:21:17 <nschle85> TAsn: for outstanding developers TRAC looks very unmanaged, in our company every week a CCB (change control board) takes place. after that every new task is assigned, ignorded, rejected or needs furter investigation, so you can see that your request is processed.
Feb 20 00:21:30 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: don't get me wrong, but I really feel it's not worth the (=*my*) effort anymore
Feb 20 00:21:47 <TAsn> nschle85, of course
Feb 20 00:21:53 <TAsn> but unfortunately we all have paid jobs
Feb 20 00:21:59 <TAsn> and don't always have time for meetings :P
Feb 20 00:22:10 <TAsn> timezones/lack of time/etc
Feb 20 00:22:15 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: is there some software that could already visualize how audio "flows" through such a diagram?
Feb 20 00:22:23 <TAsn> second of all, meetings are a waste of time
Feb 20 00:22:32 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: nope
Feb 20 00:22:36 <TAsn> but if you look closely
Feb 20 00:22:46 <TAsn> you'll see that almost no tickets
Feb 20 00:23:00 <TAsn> *all tickets
Feb 20 00:23:17 <TAsn> get comments in their first 1-3 hours
Feb 20 00:23:37 <DocScrutinizer> that all was the idea of that html&JS based diagram JesusMcCloud said he'll do one sunny day, so I can interface the actual mixer calls
Feb 20 00:23:42 <nschle85> ???
Feb 20 00:23:48 <nschle85> most or no ?
Feb 20 00:23:58 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: heh
Feb 20 00:24:59 <lindi-> hmm, i better get some sleep now, promised to go skiing tomorrow :)
Feb 20 00:25:15 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, i remember... all a big blur... must've been before christmas when we talked about that (christmas holidays, with too much booze to remember)
Feb 20 00:25:29 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: simple concept: JS calls amixer (or my interface to amixer) to determine the state of each mixer and level, and shine up the corresponding line color in the diagram
Feb 20 00:25:49 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: yep
Feb 20 00:26:22 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: but what if you click some register in the diagram?
Feb 20 00:26:35 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: one alsa control can change multiple registers
Feb 20 00:26:42 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: this idea is ~16months old now. I begin to lose interest
Feb 20 00:27:37 <lindi-> heh
Feb 20 00:28:33 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: (one alsactl change multople) don't see that for majority of cases. Gimme an example please
Feb 20 00:30:38 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: 63 i guess
Feb 20 00:30:44 <nschle85> TAsn: all tickets get comments in 1-3 hours ?
Feb 20 00:30:50 <TAsn> most
Feb 20 00:30:54 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: and then those that change both right and left channels of course
Feb 20 00:30:57 <TAsn> I think (hope)
Feb 20 00:31:17 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: and control 77
Feb 20 00:31:21 <nschle85> should i investigate this ?
Feb 20 00:31:28 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: (left right) that's your 127,127
Feb 20 00:31:36 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: and 88
Feb 20 00:31:53 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: 63 I don't think changes multiple controls
Feb 20 00:32:01 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: and then you have these alsa controls that do not write to any registers
Feb 20 00:32:25 <DocScrutinizer> yup
Feb 20 00:32:27 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: in the register trace control 63 seems to touch both R21 and R48
Feb 20 00:33:07 <nschle85> TAsn: i am new to irc, are you only responding if my sentence begins with TAsn: ?
Feb 20 00:33:12 <DocScrutinizer> that's either intentional as one of those is power control then, or it's the ageold known bug
Feb 20 00:33:31 <TAsn> nschle85, no, I'm just mostly not here
Feb 20 00:33:39 <TAsn> and tasn: beeps
Feb 20 00:33:40 <TAsn> :P
Feb 20 00:35:34 <nschle85> TAsn: nice, what is your role in shr development ?
Feb 20 00:36:47 <TAsn> developer (not the only one of course) - I work on the shr apps
Feb 20 00:37:02 <TAsn> and nagging people
Feb 20 00:37:06 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: you need to get behind the idea of hidden power management inside the driver for 8753
Feb 20 00:37:23 <TAsn> and dunno :P
Feb 20 00:38:07 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: ...which is both a freaky cute monster and a royal PITA
Feb 20 00:39:59 <nschle85> TAsn: nagging=keifend (german) how to understand this ? what is dunno ?
Feb 20 00:40:30 <TAsn> Docscrutemp, mind translating nagging to german? :P
Feb 20 00:40:53 <TAsn> nschle85, dunno = More general stuff, general administration we sometimes do
Feb 20 00:43:00 <DocScrutinizer> ~wtf dunno
Feb 20 00:43:01 <apt> Gee...  I don't know what dunno means... 
Feb 20 00:43:23 <DocScrutinizer> coloq: don't know
Feb 20 00:44:16 <DocScrutinizer> to nag: auf die nerven gehen - oder so
Feb 20 00:45:14 <nschle85> TAsn: ok, dunno i am doing every time for my project leader :-) and why are you nagging ? at work i am also nagging but our sales and by bosses are not interested in.
Feb 20 00:45:34 <DocScrutinizer> evtl hier auch: antreiben, and unliebsame aufgaben erinnern
Feb 20 00:46:33 <DocScrutinizer> ~slap TAsn 
Feb 20 00:46:34 * apt slaps TAsn, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
Feb 20 00:47:00 <TAsn> nschle85, nagging = joke, I just meant I like everyone else on the project, sometime "push" stuff, i.e nag until everything gets done (when there's something needed to be done which isn't my job)
Feb 20 00:48:40 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, wooho my carrier fixed sms sending/receiving and new opimd rocks (except for resolving richi and richi@work :-p )
Feb 20 00:48:58 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, shh, don't tell anyone about bugs :P (j/k)
Feb 20 00:48:58 <nschle85> DocScrutinizer: TAsn: thank you, doc.. i understood tasn that dunno is doing the job of your bos but your translation is: kick you boss in the ass to do his job
Feb 20 00:49:06 <TAsn> NagMaster, oh so true *wink* ;P
Feb 20 00:49:21 <TAsn> nschle85, I don't have a boss
Feb 20 00:49:36 <JesusMcCloud> brb
Feb 20 00:50:53 <DocScrutinizer> shit, too late for even a beer for breakfast ;-S
Feb 20 00:51:53 <nschle85> TAsn: who manages shr ?
Feb 20 00:52:17 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rfcb45549acb4 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/db_handler.py: Fixed a typo
Feb 20 00:53:37 <TAsn> nschle85, used to be Ainulindale, but he's a bum :P So shr is managed by the shr core team, in which the most active users are mrmoku|away, spaetz, jama, heinverdm (or something like that, I never get his name correctly), dos1 and myself (I hope I didn't forget anything)
Feb 20 00:54:08 <TAsn> ffs, just worked an hour or so on an "improvement" (or at least I thought it will improve) that only made everything worst :P
Feb 20 00:55:46 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn's standard operating mode
Feb 20 00:55:47 <nschle85> TAsn: who is behind shr ? (Apple or Microsoft ? )
Feb 20 00:55:55 <DocScrutinizer> :-P
Feb 20 00:56:06 <DocScrutinizer> LOL
Feb 20 00:56:22 <DocScrutinizer> shr core team is behind SHR
Feb 20 00:57:04 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: go ask steve jobs to sponsor you XP
Feb 20 00:57:14 <nschle85> Doc: who pays for the servers ? how is the core team elected ?
Feb 20 00:58:03 <DocScrutinizer> core team is elected by acclamation and chaos, the servers are actually sponsored by somebody, but hey that's a few bucks per month
Feb 20 00:58:20 <CIA-60> SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * r83442e0cf160 10/elementary/elementary-theme-neo/neo.edc: fixed bubble title and info
Feb 20 00:58:30 <TAsn> servers = sponsored by bearstech (tm) ;p
Feb 20 00:58:46 <TAsn> core team: voting
Feb 20 00:59:05 <DocScrutinizer> voters: coreteam XP
Feb 20 00:59:07 <TAsn> if we'll all die in a tragic plane accident on our way to FSOSHRUDCON
Feb 20 00:59:16 <TAsn> no one will be able to get in
Feb 20 00:59:17 <TAsn> :P
Feb 20 00:59:21 <TAsn> *join
Feb 20 00:59:23 <TAsn> fuck I'm tired :P
Feb 20 00:59:40 <DocScrutinizer> YOU??? tired? *impossible :-P
Feb 20 01:01:38 <nschle85> TAsn: sweet dreams ..... (Windows is open source....  Shr is the most sold mobile os, and Apple Os is hosted in Sourceforge)
Feb 20 01:02:31 <TAsn> I don't want apple os on source forge
Feb 20 01:02:32 <TAsn> :|
Feb 20 01:02:41 <DocScrutinizer> hehehehehehehe
Feb 20 01:02:59 * DocScrutinizer cackles evilly
Feb 20 01:04:21 <nschle85> Doc: noch da ?
Feb 20 01:04:50 <DocScrutinizer> klar
Feb 20 01:06:08 <nschle85> i think we should talk in english and i have some questions about shr to you
Feb 20 01:06:17 <DocScrutinizer> shoot
Feb 20 01:06:25 <nschle85> ahhhhhhhh
Feb 20 01:07:02 <nschle85> what is your role in shr ?
Feb 20 01:07:05 <JesusMcCloud> nschle85, u stated u'r new to irc... if you're sing x-chat try tab-completion for nicknames
Feb 20 01:07:31 <DocScrutinizer> my role in SHR? evil critics
Feb 20 01:08:17 <DocScrutinizer> I'll kick those guys if they don't treat my hw right :-D
Feb 20 01:08:28 <nschle85> JesusMcCloud: i am using KVirc
Feb 20 01:09:05 <JesusMcCloud> nschle85, might work aswell, althoug i dunno about that client
Feb 20 01:09:09 <nschle85> wh right ?
Feb 20 01:09:40 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rc4eba7941bb5 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py pimd_generic.py): 
Feb 20 01:09:40 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Fixed * Don't let removing default must have fields
Feb 20 01:09:40 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Fixed typo
Feb 20 01:09:40 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Updated TODO
Feb 20 01:09:56 <nschle85> dunno ???? i heard about this vocabulary
Feb 20 01:10:18 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: what's that? a sentence??
Feb 20 01:10:28 <JesusMcCloud> nschle85, dunno = don't know
Feb 20 01:10:31 <TAsn> I don't do sentences
Feb 20 01:10:32 <TAsn> :P
Feb 20 01:10:40 <TAsn> Not after not sleeping for a week
Feb 20 01:10:48 <DocScrutinizer> that's a bad haiku
Feb 20 01:10:49 <TAsn> and in 3:20 am :P
Feb 20 01:11:18 <TAsn> that's the insomniac haiku
Feb 20 01:11:24 <TAsn> we are allowed to break structure :P
Feb 20 01:11:42 <DocScrutinizer> better stay awake than dream of OSS windoof :-P
Feb 20 01:12:41 <nschle85> TAsn: why re not sleeping ? have you dreamad abou running windows mobile on FR ?
Feb 20 01:13:33 <nschle85> TAsn: sorry for my bad spelling but iam typing on an apple bluetooth keyboard
Feb 20 01:13:55 <TAsn> omg apple keyboard
Feb 20 01:14:07 * DocScrutinizer removes protection lid from red button
Feb 20 01:14:10 <TAsn> ~smack nschle85 
Feb 20 01:14:11 * apt smacks nschle85 upside the head.
Feb 20 01:14:21 <TAsn> DocScrutinizer, you got a go.
Feb 20 01:14:26 <TAsn> 'GO'
Feb 20 01:14:26 <nschle85> TAsn: and apple mouse
Feb 20 01:14:37 <TAsn> mouse is ok
Feb 20 01:14:39 <DocScrutinizer> ~nuke apple kbd
Feb 20 01:14:40 * apt prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at apple kbd ... B☢☢M!
Feb 20 01:14:45 <TAsn> because you don't communicate with the mouse
Feb 20 01:14:50 <TAsn> but I'm talking to an apple keyboard :(
Feb 20 01:14:52 <TAsn> bah.
Feb 20 01:15:06 <TAsn> nschle85, You are an evil man :P
Feb 20 01:15:16 <nschle85> ubuntu wants it to register twice to accept it
Feb 20 01:15:46 <nschle85> is also a bug which will never be fixed
Feb 20 01:15:50 <DocScrutinizer> If I were buntkuh I'd refuse to register
Feb 20 01:16:22 <TAsn> nschle85, and shouldn't
Feb 20 01:16:35 <TAsn> nschle85, :P
Feb 20 01:16:39 <nschle85> TAsb
Feb 20 01:16:42 * DocScrutinizer ponders about a special udev rule to format the HDD on attachment of apple kbd
Feb 20 01:17:42 <nschle85> Doc: this os only possible on SHR, every body can commit everything :-)
Feb 20 01:19:23 <nschle85> ups silence....
Feb 20 01:20:32 <TAsn> nschle85, I disagree
Feb 20 01:20:37 <DocScrutinizer> actually I'm busy with other channels
Feb 20 01:20:57 <TAsn> if DocScrutinizer would have suggested such a rule, I would have approved it.
Feb 20 01:22:16 <nschle85> TAsn: and i would install it on 192.168.0.200 :-) from my freerunner 
Feb 20 01:23:41 <DocScrutinizer> nah, next OM specific update for cdc-ether will do
Feb 20 01:24:19 <nschle85> I belive
Feb 20 01:25:58 <nschle85> TAsn: Doc: are you linux programmers in your company or are you linuxers@home ?
Feb 20 01:26:35 <TAsn> nschle85, solaris :|
Feb 20 01:26:52 <TAsn> but I quit my job
Feb 20 01:27:06 <TAsn> I want to travel/study harder/have fun
Feb 20 01:27:06 <TAsn> :PY
Feb 20 01:27:19 <TAsn> last two weeks left in that place
Feb 20 01:27:46 <TAsn> and I hope I won't have to go to work
Feb 20 01:27:56 <TAsn> in them
Feb 20 01:30:29 <JaMa|GoNe> a *lot* drunk but only a *bit* tired :)
Feb 20 01:30:40 <JaMa|GoNe> as you can see... I can still write :)
Feb 20 01:31:23 <JaMa|GoNe> I need to silence those highlights before morning.. :)
Feb 20 01:31:28 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, not enough then
Feb 20 01:31:29 <nschle85> TAsn: i stoped at solaris 8
Feb 20 01:31:50 <nschle85> but our E250 is till running 
Feb 20 01:32:25 <nschle85> but our sales claim: The customer wants Windows !
Feb 20 01:32:39 <nschle85> But I dont believe
Feb 20 01:33:14 <nschle85> But now i must develop under windows
Feb 20 01:33:28 <TAsn> sucks :(
Feb 20 01:33:33 <TAsn> windows suck
Feb 20 01:33:35 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: remove libpixman-1.0.la from libcairo-1.0.la and libpangocairo.la
Feb 20 01:33:36 <TAsn> solaris sucks as well
Feb 20 01:34:02 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: then pixman will build ok.. described in commit message...
Feb 20 01:34:14 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rd509c41930a4 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py): FIxed * We don't allow to query system fields, but we should catch the exceptions that makes, Add log messages when doing that and when trying to add reserved field
Feb 20 01:34:15 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r0b91f4c8250a 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/db_handler.py: Adedd a couple of more exceptions (realetd to last commit).
Feb 20 01:34:17 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r79852f463554 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py pimd_generic.py): Started sending EntryId as well as Path, first step towards dropping it
Feb 20 01:34:21 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: there is circular dependency broken when upgrading only pixman
Feb 20 01:35:01 <nschle85> JaMa|GoNe howto remove a .la from a .la ?
Feb 20 01:35:07 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: and I'm java programmer/architect at work and linuxer@home
Feb 20 01:35:15 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: use vi Luke
Feb 20 01:35:49 <JaMa|GoNe> having fun is good plan, TAsn :)
Feb 20 01:36:02 <TAsn> I agree :P
Feb 20 01:36:09 <TAsn> that's why I planned it
Feb 20 01:36:58 <nschle85> JaMa: iam also a Java programmer at work and perl and windows installer xml aso... 
Feb 20 01:37:16 <nschle85> vi Luke ?
Feb 20 01:37:31 <nschle85> vi i know
Feb 20 01:37:40 <nschle85> but what is Luke ?
Feb 20 01:37:57 <JaMa|GoNe> :)
Feb 20 01:38:00 <JaMa|GoNe> Jedi!
Feb 20 01:38:26 <JaMa|GoNe> those young people doesn't pay enough respecKTP to old legends :)
Feb 20 01:38:53 <nschle85> Mr. Sky... ?
Feb 20 01:38:58 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r069420a7b513 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/TODO: Updated TODO
Feb 20 01:39:00 <JaMa|GoNe> sure..
Feb 20 01:39:09 <TAsn> sweet, todo is short again :P
Feb 20 01:39:31 <TAsn> it seems to me
Feb 20 01:39:34 <JaMa|GoNe> TAsn: congratz.... :)
Feb 20 01:39:48 <TAsn> that I'm the only one here who doesn't speak german :P
Feb 20 01:39:58 <TAsn> JaMa|GoNe, and it's full of crap, not bug s :P
Feb 20 01:40:05 <JaMa|GoNe> looking at tonight's TODO.. I gtg .. ;P
Feb 20 01:40:11 <JaMa|GoNe> gnite all
Feb 20 01:40:45 <JaMa|GoNe> TAsn: I don't speak german at all too.. 
Feb 20 01:41:19 <JaMa|GoNe> TAsn: having B from german language at colleague doesn't mean much ;)
Feb 20 01:41:39 <nschle85> JaMa: i am not a specialist in bitbake and shr: howto remove libpixman from libcairo and libpangocairo ?
Feb 20 01:42:21 <TAsn> jaacoppi, oh, ciao :P
Feb 20 01:43:13 <JaMa|GoNe> nschle85: edit staging/armv4*/usr/lib/lib*cairo*.la files by hand and then rebuild pixman
Feb 20 01:43:16 * JaMa|GoNe off
Feb 20 01:46:54 * DocScrutinizer yawns
Feb 20 01:51:25 <nschle85> make image; mal sehen was es wird
Feb 20 01:53:32 * JesusMcCloud just realized that yawning seem sto be cntageous even over IRC
Feb 20 01:54:31 <nschle85> JaMa|GoNe should i teach you in german ?
Feb 20 01:55:52 <nschle85> you can teach me in c/c++ bitbake /oe /shr
Feb 20 01:56:58 <nschle85> Doc: are you still alive ?
Feb 20 01:59:23 <DocScrutinizer> no
Feb 20 02:00:19 <nschle85> ?
Feb 20 02:00:27 <nschle85> iam confused
Feb 20 02:01:35 <DocScrutinizer> I'm bored to dead and upset same time as I'm sitting in front of this shitty piece of plastic and transformed sands for >15h now
Feb 20 02:01:37 <nschle85> throw (new NotDead("Doc"))
Feb 20 02:02:01 <DocScrutinizer> to death even
Feb 20 02:03:43 <nschle85> if you want to go to bed say good bye and all is fine.. :-)
Feb 20 02:04:11 <DocScrutinizer> you don't have the slightest idea. But thanks
Feb 20 02:04:44 <nschle85> i am not very good in english
Feb 20 02:04:59 <DocScrutinizer> don't worry
Feb 20 02:05:12 <nschle85> i understood you are tired
Feb 20 02:05:26 <DocScrutinizer> not exactly
Feb 20 02:05:46 <nschle85> ok you are watchinh ice dancing
Feb 20 02:06:00 <DocScrutinizer> it's more like everybody else is tired while I missed the right time to go out and get breakfast
Feb 20 02:06:24 <nschle85> hmmm
Feb 20 02:06:31 <nschle85> its weekend 
Feb 20 02:06:47 <nschle85> there is no time for breakfast
Feb 20 02:07:44 <DocScrutinizer> depends
Feb 20 02:08:30 <nschle85> why are you typing insted of going to doscotheke ?
Feb 20 02:08:40 <DocScrutinizer> actually I might head off to my bakery and get me a nice latenight coffe
Feb 20 02:08:59 <DocScrutinizer> too late for disco
Feb 20 02:09:23 <nschle85> not in berlin
Feb 20 02:09:41 <DocScrutinizer> or at least too late for the equivalent activity apropriate to people of my age
Feb 20 02:10:03 <nschle85> how old are you ? iam 36
Feb 20 02:10:12 <DocScrutinizer> a lil older
Feb 20 02:10:42 <nschle85> inberlin no problem
Feb 20 02:10:55 <DocScrutinizer> yeahm but here's N, not B
Feb 20 02:11:30 <nschle85> Nuerberg
Feb 20 02:11:33 <nschle85> n
Feb 20 02:11:34 <DocScrutinizer> probably there are 2 .. 3 of those locations around here 
Feb 20 02:11:48 <DocScrutinizer> but honestly, not my style
Feb 20 02:11:57 <nschle85> why
Feb 20 02:11:59 <nschle85> ?
Feb 20 02:12:09 <DocScrutinizer> those are for kids basically
Feb 20 02:12:16 <nschle85> ups
Feb 20 02:12:41 <nschle85> i am from B but i live in M
Feb 20 02:13:04 <nschle85> M is like a village
Feb 20 02:13:09 <DocScrutinizer> hey, say hello to mrmoku|away 
Feb 20 02:14:17 <nschle85> würde ich ja machen aber ich kenne die shr leute nicht persönlich
Feb 20 02:18:19 <nschle85> doc: did you understand me ?
Feb 20 02:20:09 <Docscrutemp> sure I did
Feb 20 02:20:50 <Docscrutemp> wtf?
Feb 20 02:21:24 <DocScutinizer51> hmm, better
Feb 20 02:23:40 <TAsn> phw
Feb 20 02:23:42 <TAsn> phew
Feb 20 02:23:42 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rca30aba0fe16 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py helpers.py pimd_calls.py pimd_messages.py): Fixed a lot of FIXMEs and Added QueryFailed dbus failure reason
Feb 20 02:23:43 <TAsn> night.
Feb 20 02:23:47 <TAsn> 4:30
Feb 20 02:23:47 <TAsn> :
Feb 20 02:23:48 <TAsn> :P
Feb 20 02:29:17 <nschle85> TAsn: I have a question
Feb 20 02:29:38 <TAsn> make it quick
Feb 20 02:30:20 <nschle85> 4:30 which time zone ? and why dont you sleep ?
Feb 20 02:30:36 <JesusMcCloud> lol
Feb 20 02:30:39 <TAsn> +2
Feb 20 02:30:45 <TAsn> and I don't like sleeping
Feb 20 02:30:53 <TAsn> but I have to get some sleep
Feb 20 02:30:58 <TAsn> as I have a long day tomorrow
Feb 20 02:31:09 <TAsn> correction: I like sleeping, I can't manage to :P
Feb 20 02:31:20 <TAsn> now for real, ciao.
Feb 20 02:31:31 <nschle85> in which country do you live ?
Feb 20 02:31:46 <nschle85> Estonia ?
Feb 20 02:33:03 <nschle85> sweet dresms
Feb 20 02:33:07 <nschle85> dresms
Feb 20 02:33:15 <nschle85> dreams
Feb 20 02:33:35 <nschle85> shit apple keyboard
Feb 20 02:40:44 <JesusMcCloud> (sometimes you gotta just hate elementary)
Feb 20 02:46:58 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, i overlooked the schematic of the wolfson codec. this is a huge piece of work... could you provide me with some demo command line script, so i can play around with it?
Feb 20 02:47:47 <JesusMcCloud> 2 skripts: 1 setter, one getter
Feb 20 02:47:58 <DocScrutinizer> ack. and sure. I'll come up with something this weekend
Feb 20 02:48:04 <DocScrutinizer> yep
Feb 20 02:48:13 <JesusMcCloud> somethign where i dont have to worry about ssh
Feb 20 02:48:20 <DocScrutinizer> yep
Feb 20 02:48:29 <JesusMcCloud> good
Feb 20 02:49:07 <JesusMcCloud> if i have that working (to choose if i use svg or regular bitmap) we can start with soem basic controls
Feb 20 02:49:19 <DocScrutinizer> ok :-)
Feb 20 02:50:11 <DocScrutinizer> nschle85: TAsn is Israel
Feb 20 02:50:33 <nschle85> ok
Feb 20 02:50:35 <DocScrutinizer> actually he's a part of...
Feb 20 02:50:39 <JesusMcCloud> the easiest way for me would be if the seter skript returns also the name of the getter skript to check (if you want Realtime interface in every sence of the word) if not, i'll go for a listener
Feb 20 02:50:52 <DocScrutinizer> my english also is quite rotten this time of day XP
Feb 20 02:51:27 <nschle85> what part of ... he is ?
Feb 20 02:52:24 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn != Israel
Feb 20 02:52:34 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn IN israel
Feb 20 02:53:14 <nschle85> mal auf deutsch was willst du sagen ?
Feb 20 02:53:53 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn is Isreal is no correct statement
Feb 20 02:54:26 <nschle85> ok he is living in
Feb 20 02:54:30 <DocScrutinizer> as well as "Israel is Tasn" isn't
Feb 20 02:54:35 <DocScrutinizer> yep
Feb 20 02:54:53 <nschle85> now i understand
Feb 20 02:57:26 <nschle85> at the moment i clean my sandbox
Feb 20 02:57:37 <nschle85> to rebuild fromscratch
Feb 20 02:58:40 <nschle85> JaMa wants to know if its solution works
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