**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 20 02:59:57 2010 Feb 20 03:00:06 is it a common phenomenon that people in thsi channel dont sleep? Feb 20 03:00:29 what is a sleep ? Feb 20 03:02:55 JesusMcCloud: do you sleep ? Feb 20 03:03:22 nschle85, ich ernähr mich von luft und liebe, da brauch ich keinen schlaf Feb 20 03:03:52 oh and nicotine and booze (although booze makes me sleepy) Feb 20 03:04:19 ~lart elementary Feb 20 03:04:19 * apt plops elementary into a giant vat of herring Feb 20 03:04:26 JesusMcCloud: ich bin auch verheiratet und ernähre mich vom essen meiner Frau Feb 20 03:06:07 if food is prepared in my flat, i cook even if my gf is here. noone touches my kitchen Feb 20 03:08:03 i leave this room because have to prepare the breakfast for my wife Feb 20 03:08:50 Jesus where do you live ? I live in M Feb 20 03:09:57 nschle85, holy son of a cracker, do you work for some data-mining company? Feb 20 03:10:24 no srsly, i live in austria Feb 20 03:10:55 ~lart elementary Feb 20 03:10:55 * apt beats elementary into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy Feb 20 03:10:56 ~lart elementary Feb 20 03:10:57 no but i would like to know what kind of humour you have Feb 20 03:11:42 nschle85, are you comign on to me? because if you are, believe me you could't take it :-P Feb 20 03:11:43 iam native from B Feb 20 03:12:02 wth is B? Feb 20 03:12:32 its not Bern Feb 20 03:12:41 its Berlin Feb 20 03:13:04 next week i am on skiing Feb 20 03:13:22 in A Feb 20 03:13:54 quite certainly not near me Feb 20 03:14:13 a is not sooo big Feb 20 03:14:14 because here its foggy as always and as of now also raining Feb 20 03:14:39 i know Feb 20 03:15:29 snow machines are very welcome Feb 20 03:16:43 next sunday our company has an event in Söll Feb 20 03:17:02 the city i live in already went over the "feinstaub"-limit for this year Feb 20 03:17:18 at least according to the newspapers but i can hardly believe that Feb 20 03:17:19 Munich ? Feb 20 03:17:30 Graz, Austria Feb 20 03:17:44 ups Feb 20 03:18:07 i thought feinstaub does not exist in austria Feb 20 03:18:38 in graz it does...massively Feb 20 03:18:55 because of tourists ? Feb 20 03:19:35 well the contract is with the EU as in every other city, but where all the paarticles come from, i dont know... Feb 20 03:21:07 in munich the particles know where to fly, we have enought signs for that Feb 20 03:23:21 nschle85, well here they introduced special speed limits in the outer regions of the city and even on the surroundign highways so called "Lutfhunderter" and even hybrid and electric cars need to follow them, because of the particles on the road that get thrown in the air at higher speeds Feb 20 03:25:11 i am very tired, olymic games are soooo long at night, we can talk about Lufthunderter later, i did not hear abot that yet. Feb 20 03:25:47 sweet dreams, ciao Feb 20 03:26:10 gn8 Feb 20 03:26:24 danke Feb 20 04:28:06 SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * r07eae1fa7d4d 10/elementary/elementary-theme-neo/neo.edc: added better button-click feedback Feb 20 04:30:38 SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * r612139e1cf96 10/phoneui-shr/phoneui-shr-theme-neo/keypad.edc: added UBER feedback on keypad button press and fixed button number 3 Feb 20 06:09:14 break of dawn -> time to sleep Feb 20 06:43:46 yeah Feb 20 06:59:49 so, gn8 Feb 20 07:42:56 TAsn: seems everything works now! Resolving and smses works great. Feb 20 07:45:35 mrmoku|away: In contacts app when there's no name of contact, only surname or nickname it is marked as (Unknown). Feb 20 07:54:52 SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * r6c2e95f282ad 10/elementary/elementary-theme-neo/bt_shine.png: fixed anchor button Feb 20 07:55:02 SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * rf0f0a30c3527 10/elementary/elementary-theme-neo/neo.edc: fixed anchor button Feb 20 08:17:58 Q-Master: that is already fixed over here Feb 20 08:18:17 mrmoku: good. Feb 20 08:18:21 have to finish sanitizing the messages too... and then I can merge it and build it Feb 20 08:18:30 great Feb 20 08:54:21 leviathan: can we get FBIOBLANK working on dream? Feb 20 09:10:29 <[Rui]> mrmoku: while you're at it on messages... Feb 20 09:11:14 <[Rui]> mrmoku: as the screen is big enough to show the message again with a confirm delete option, the confirmation should display the message as well. Feb 20 09:12:52 [Rui]: hehe, wanted to change that... and make the confirmation an inwin Feb 20 09:13:32 <[Rui]> mrmoku: if in message list, inwin should display the message as well, if viewing message, no need Feb 20 09:16:40 [Rui]: ok, will try :) Feb 20 09:16:43 bbl Feb 20 09:59:16 larsc: hi Feb 20 11:20:43 ~seen gnutoo Feb 20 11:20:45 gnutoo <~GNUtoo@host49-13-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 12h 47m 13s ago, saying: 'bye'. Feb 20 12:17:44 moin Feb 20 12:41:03 hello, greetings from casablanca :-) Feb 20 12:46:37 mickeyl: but I'm here Feb 20 12:46:39 :) Feb 20 12:46:46 well Feb 20 12:46:49 after smoking Feb 20 12:46:50 ;) Feb 20 12:47:36 hi Feb 20 12:47:52 wanted to ask about FBIOBLANK Feb 20 12:48:15 would need to be implemented in the framebuffer driver i guess Feb 20 12:54:28 hmm Feb 20 13:14:35 I'm building the SHR image using the bearstech Makefile (make setup && cd shr-unstable && make image). Unfortunately, this fails: http://pastebin.org/94434 Feb 20 13:14:56 How do I solve this dependency problem? Feb 20 13:17:16 ChristW: afaik bitbake gst-plugins-good gst-plugins-bad Feb 20 13:17:47 or maybe eaven gst-plugins-ugly ;) Feb 20 13:18:55 yes -ugly too Feb 20 13:20:34 ChristW: or just make update :) Feb 20 13:21:46 leviathan: btw., alsa leaks processes Feb 20 13:21:52 audmgr_rpc is not being killed Feb 20 13:21:57 err Feb 20 13:22:06 s/processes/kernel tasks, workqueues, or whatever/ Feb 20 13:22:20 soltys: ChristW: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=7d04cc0b0baba0786db86c107b6513a85463e53f Feb 20 13:26:54 hi mickeyl leviathan Feb 20 13:27:01 hi GNUtoo Feb 20 13:27:26 mickeyl, for backlight I made a commit Feb 20 13:28:00 I only fixed the values of the brightness Feb 20 13:28:31 where's your tree? Feb 20 13:29:03 mickeyl, leviathan asked me to commit in his tree Feb 20 13:29:19 s/tree/branch Feb 20 13:30:53 hmm, can't see that commit in http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming Feb 20 13:31:23 http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/032ded84cee776b926b7b84702db4ee5e2bcf449 Feb 20 13:31:31 branch msm-gnuconfiorm Feb 20 13:31:35 *gnuconform Feb 20 13:31:41 which is leviathan's branch Feb 20 13:31:58 ah, that one Feb 20 13:32:10 ouch.... Feb 20 13:32:11 got it Feb 20 13:32:13 what did I do Feb 20 13:32:32 hmm Feb 20 13:32:33 *.rej Feb 20 13:32:39 hehe Feb 20 13:32:46 better add a *.rej to gitignore Feb 20 13:32:49 normally theses kinds of things should be backlisted Feb 20 13:32:51 indeed Feb 20 13:35:09 so we have two alsa problems atm. Feb 20 13:35:15 one is the leaking workqueues Feb 20 13:35:23 the other one is that i can't seem to mute the handset Feb 20 13:35:28 sound always pollutes out of it Feb 20 13:35:36 even when i want everything to go via speaker Feb 20 13:36:27 mickeyl, leaking workqueues? do you have more details? Feb 20 13:36:33 sure Feb 20 13:36:40 one [audmgr_rpc] per aply Feb 20 13:36:42 aplay Feb 20 13:37:03 they're multiplying like rabbits ;) Feb 20 13:38:10 mmm Feb 20 13:38:13 I'll look Feb 20 13:38:57 mmm how do you reproduce that exactly? Feb 20 13:39:11 ps -ef|grep audmgr Feb 20 13:39:13 aplay foo.wav Feb 20 13:39:15 ps -ef|grep audmgr|wc -l Feb 20 13:39:17 etc. Feb 20 13:39:27 one audmgr_rpc per aplay call Feb 20 13:39:29 rougly Feb 20 13:39:58 ah ok Feb 20 13:41:31 oops Feb 20 13:41:43 sounds bad Feb 20 13:42:26 would explain the low memory Feb 20 13:42:28 >_< Feb 20 13:43:49 speaking about memory Feb 20 13:43:53 is 104 really the max? Feb 20 13:43:59 raphael has 200 Feb 20 13:44:00 :/ Feb 20 13:44:23 mickeyl, I do mem=110M but it's between 110 and 120 Feb 20 13:45:32 mickeyl, btw we could get rid of #ifdef CONFIG_AMSS_VERSION_SOMETHING and have a single kernel fow windows mobile handsets and android ones for msm phones Feb 20 13:45:33 and that we can verify amss version dynamically Feb 20 13:45:58 awesome Feb 20 13:46:15 the way they currently work is a deadend IMO Feb 20 13:46:26 but anyways, we have our own share of problems Feb 20 13:47:42 mickeyl, the problem is that audmgr_rpc blocks : Feb 20 13:48:15 http://www.pastebin.com/m26ec400a Feb 20 13:57:26 mickeyl, btw for muting I do the following: mute + activate something else Feb 20 13:57:46 mickeyl, that's because there are still bugs inside leviathan new routing implementation Feb 20 14:00:30 leviathan, could you try to fix audmgr? Feb 20 14:00:37 because you know better than me this part Feb 20 14:04:42 btw look in smd_rpcrouter.c in arch-msm Feb 20 14:05:04 s/arch/mach Feb 20 14:05:55 ok Feb 20 14:07:16 GNUtoo, mickeyl: does the error also occur with amixer? Feb 20 14:07:21 (routing) Feb 20 14:09:33 let me check Feb 20 14:10:11 no Feb 20 14:11:05 GNUtoo: ok. did you ever had a look at suspend/resume? it has the same bug as the other msm kernels Feb 20 14:11:22 by default the kernel wake state is asleep Feb 20 14:11:53 so you have to manually echo "wakeup" (or so, can't remember) to the /sys/power/state Feb 20 14:12:03 otherwise you'll get a nice kernel OOPS on apm -s Feb 20 14:12:33 mickeyl, no I didn't look at suspend-resume Feb 20 14:13:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra8a126814454 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_htc/ (Makefile.am plugin.vala unsolicited.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_htc: listen to +PB_READY, the proprietary URC signalizing that the SIM phonebook has been read into internal RAM Feb 20 14:15:54 ok Feb 20 14:16:06 i guess this will be the next showstopper after alsa then :) Feb 20 14:16:21 or do you think wifi/bt/gps is more important? Feb 20 14:16:24 * mickeyl dunno Feb 20 14:17:33 I bet there are no real showstopper anymore,just lack of manpower Feb 20 14:17:58 leviathan, do you have new images? Feb 20 14:22:05 maybe it doesn't work because of timeout of -1 Feb 20 14:36:28 ouch 5*HZ works but at the end crashes the phone Feb 20 14:41:46 lol Feb 20 14:41:47 [ 251.143951] adsp: closing module AUDPPTASK Feb 20 14:41:48 [ 251.147918] adsp: disable interrupt Feb 20 14:57:56 GNUtoo: uhm Feb 20 14:58:07 I've got some serious problems again Feb 20 14:58:17 with building images Feb 20 15:20:02 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r77eb915a4683 10/fsomusicd/MAINTAINERS: fsomusicd: add MAINTAINERS file Feb 20 16:49:03 moinmoin Feb 20 17:09:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * raf93040b74fa 10/ (docs/TODO fsogsmd/src/lib/watchdog.vala): fsogsmd: watchdog: debug++ Feb 20 17:42:42 what about including -ggdb3 in every SHR build (as angstrom does)? Feb 20 17:43:17 JaMa|GoNe: will produce quite large executables? Feb 20 17:43:28 I hate to rebuild stuff everytime I need better bt/debug Feb 20 17:44:01 lindi-: yes.. but I haven't seen how big is the difference.. Feb 20 17:44:35 lindi-: lots of stuff included in SHR is rather experimental or in development so I guess that it wouldn't hurt so much and help a lot Feb 20 17:44:38 JaMa|GoNe: potentially huge Feb 20 17:44:45 JaMa|GoNe: try it Feb 20 17:45:27 * JaMa|GoNe just finished 3 rebuilds from scratch.. :) Feb 20 17:47:37 TAsn: phonelog is not working now Feb 20 17:55:01 lindi-: eglibc-2.11 is much smaller by default or -O0 + -ggdb3 didn't have much impact.. Feb 20 17:55:07 -rw-r--r-- 1 bitbake bitbake 416910 Dec 22 16:30 eglibc-dbg_2.10-r8.6.4_armv4t.ipk Feb 20 17:55:10 -rw-r--r-- 1 bitbake bitbake 406362 Feb 20 16:35 eglibc-dbg_2.11-r9.1.4_armv4t.ipk Feb 20 17:55:13 bitbake@jama ~/tmpdir-dev-shr/deploy/ipk/armv4t $ /bin/ls -l libc6* Feb 20 17:55:16 -rw-r--r-- 1 bitbake bitbake 494378 Feb 20 16:35 libc6-dev_2.11-r9.1.4_armv4t.ipk Feb 20 17:55:19 -rw-r--r-- 1 bitbake bitbake 1484986 Dec 22 16:30 libc6_2.10-r8.6.4_armv4t.ipk Feb 20 17:55:22 -rw-r--r-- 1 bitbake bitbake 1489842 Feb 20 16:35 libc6_2.11-r9.1.4_armv4t.ipk Feb 20 17:57:42 lindi-: note that -g is enabled by default already Feb 20 17:57:53 JaMa|GoNe: and nothing runs strip? Feb 20 17:58:04 JaMa|GoNe: in debian -g is always enabled but it is just stripped away later Feb 20 17:58:18 lindi-: I checked for your 8753 usecase of concurrent use of GSM->earpiece + DAC->speaker-sounder Feb 20 17:58:25 lindi-: not possible Feb 20 17:58:38 lindi-: yes unstriped goes to package-gdb and striped to package Feb 20 17:58:56 * JaMa|GoNe off Feb 20 17:59:15 DocScrutinizer: ok Feb 20 17:59:32 JaMa|GoNe: ok, pretty much the same in debian except that it is "-dbg" Feb 20 18:03:43 -O0, hm, its looks like when you want avoid most bugs Feb 20 18:04:03 anyway, its bad for end-users imho Feb 20 18:19:29 heyho Feb 20 18:20:52 hohey Feb 20 18:33:04 max_posedon: some programs don't even compile with -O0 Feb 20 18:33:23 lindi-, really? Feb 20 18:33:42 I can belive in that some not compile with -O2/-O3 Feb 20 18:33:57 but -O0 which means "no optimizations at all" Feb 20 18:36:10 max_posedon: man outb Feb 20 18:37:28 nice example. thanks, new for me Feb 20 18:44:42 hehe. like on zx-spectrum out (#fd),a 8) Feb 20 18:45:00 * blindcoder remembers mozilla not compiling with pentium 4 optimisations due to some assembler errors Feb 20 18:49:47 x86 suxx anyway Feb 20 18:56:46 aloha Feb 20 18:56:57 Q-Master, can u send me the ipk of phonelog or did you just upgrade? Feb 20 19:00:12 JesusMcCloud: I've not updated phonelog yet Feb 20 19:00:49 Q-Master, oops i didn't see the *not* it your msg Feb 20 19:00:51 tmp_duration = ceil(call['Duration']) Feb 20 19:00:51 TypeError: a float is required Feb 20 19:03:34 Hi there. I'm using SHT testing on my freerunenr and when I try to erase the last sms it won't do it. It removes it from the list of messages but whenever I restart the phone it is still there. Can you give me any hint? pls Feb 20 19:09:07 <[Rui]> TAsn: only now I saw your memo :) Feb 20 19:09:39 <[Rui]> TAsn: i don't know if I can handle it right now, I'm still due to finish sth Feb 20 19:09:58 wpwrak: hi Feb 20 19:10:12 wpwrak: i've got some more results wrt FR wifi interoperability Feb 20 19:10:19 Curious enough Feb 20 19:11:08 wpwrak: my friends have 3 DWL-g700ap crap APs for our applied maths lab. Feb 20 19:12:04 Q-Master, just download latest phonelog form shr git and replace the phonelog on you device Feb 20 19:12:05 wpwrak: They differ slightly in hardware rev, but the chip (RTL8186 soc, with binary-only wifi driver) is the same i guess. I took one of them home and flashed wive-ng on it. Feb 20 19:12:47 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: isn't the new phonelog integrated into libphoneui? Feb 20 19:13:16 wpwrak: i can connect to it with _any_ equipment except the FR. I've already showed you the log of "Authentication timed out" attempts i think. Feb 20 19:13:40 [Rui], afaik not finished Feb 20 19:13:47 PaulFertser: hi o/ Feb 20 19:14:02 wpwrak: now (surprise-surprise) i've flashed the router at the lab with exactly the same firmware and configured wireless part the same way. Guess what? It works at the lab. :-O Feb 20 19:14:03 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: ok, :( Feb 20 19:14:06 DocScrutinizer: moin Feb 20 19:14:32 DocScrutinizer: i'm glad to see you around :) Feb 20 19:14:50 huh? I'm ubiquous and persistent Feb 20 19:15:32 [Rui], i still dont understand how pyphonelog surcived this long... it is sloooOOooow even with new opimd Feb 20 19:16:18 PaulFertser: I even auto-respawn on minor fatalities Feb 20 19:16:49 DocScrutinizer: you've a nice featureset :) Feb 20 19:16:57 * mwester executes Doc with a railgun, just to check the truth of that last statement. Feb 20 19:16:59 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: opimd was the worse bottleneck, I guess. Feb 20 19:17:09 mwester: _minor_ fatalities ;) Feb 20 19:17:12 mwester: hi btw Feb 20 19:17:15 :) Feb 20 19:17:19 <[Rui]> anyway, see yalater as this olpc is going out of battery :) Feb 20 19:17:24 [Rui], yup, but pyphonlog still sucks Feb 20 19:17:32 bye Feb 20 19:17:56 wpwrak: i guess the next move should be me bringing the router i have at home to the lab and check if it's other APs around my flat that prevent FR from connecting. Feb 20 19:17:58 on major fatalities I spawn Feb 20 19:19:17 mwester: that's all your fault Feb 20 19:19:25 Ouch! Feb 20 19:20:00 wpwrak: do you think something like that is possible? Feb 20 19:20:01 you know Hydra? Feb 20 19:20:10 multi-heading ftw Feb 20 19:20:59 (hm, sounds like trying to go several directions at the same time, obviously it's rather a FAIL) Feb 20 19:22:06 PaulFertser: yeah, your pidgin is awful today :-P Feb 20 19:22:49 Was dazed and confused, for so long it's not true; wanted a woman, never bargained for you ;) Feb 20 19:26:23 Ok, my sense of humour is awful everyday Feb 20 19:29:15 It's special. I like it anyway Feb 20 19:29:54 dunno above quotation though Feb 20 19:32:01 Heh Feb 20 19:32:17 I like Led Zeppelin too much Feb 20 19:46:49 PaulFertser: could also be configuration differences, e.g. essid / essid length Feb 20 19:47:32 TAsn, my opinion of new opimd: apart from the one bug discovered yestarday: YAY!, did find any other problems Feb 20 19:52:29 wpwrak: heh, want me to try the same essid? Feb 20 19:52:44 wpwrak: ssid in fact, "e" is bogus Feb 20 19:59:25 Does someone have an idea? http://pastebin.com/m7be4cd96 Feb 20 19:59:30 GNUtoo: ? Feb 20 19:59:47 later I'm busy right now Feb 20 19:59:49 sorry Feb 20 19:59:59 np Feb 20 20:00:00 PaulFertser: sometimes, the (e)ssid does make a difference ;-) Feb 20 20:00:35 JesusMcCloud: can you gimme the URL. Feb 20 20:00:37 ? Feb 20 20:01:12 Q-Master, http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=pyphonelog.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/phonelog;h=60cfec147917428d2f9a1d3ce32aa621681b3fd9;hb=b70058755df1f12cd48db51fa4cd933c027e20c6 Feb 20 20:11:39 wpwrak: dawn same ssid with the same password works! Feb 20 20:11:45 holy shit Feb 20 20:12:02 wpwrak: non-working: "Paul-g700ap", working "am-lab" Feb 20 20:12:20 wpwrak: amazing clue Feb 20 20:15:19 ;-)) Feb 20 20:15:34 PaulFertser: now to find out what did it ... might be just the length Feb 20 20:15:38 wpwrak: now i'll try more tests to see if it's the length Feb 20 20:16:00 wpwrak: probably there's maximum length that stupid hardmac sanely supports with wpa. Feb 20 20:16:04 I'll find out. Feb 20 20:16:20 PaulFertser: or maybe it's alignment Feb 20 20:16:28 wpwrak: but that's really something new, your hint's amazingly cool! You're the man :D Feb 20 20:17:20 PaulFertser: heh, wild guess because we had an essid length problem before. that was in the kernel, though, and with longer essids (16 chars, if i remember correctly) Feb 20 20:17:55 max_posedon: -O0 wasn't proposed default :).. just chaning from -g to ggdb3 Feb 20 20:18:18 max_posedon: -O0 I used for my build as I'm still hunting that qtxml problem.. Feb 20 20:18:58 -O2 still works here for qt Feb 20 20:20:46 I know.. but as it also works for armv5 then I want to see if that's gcc/eglibc bug and fix it Feb 20 20:21:02 as it can be problem in other apps as well Feb 20 20:22:03 JesusMcCloud: thnx. now's everything working Feb 20 20:22:55 SSID overrun and missing termination issueas are widespread on WIFI Feb 20 20:23:13 as well as problems with special chars Feb 20 20:24:10 and of course empty SSID Feb 20 20:37:35 wpwrak: ok, it's not the length. Feb 20 20:38:45 wpwrak: then it must be PSK Feb 20 20:41:01 hehe of course not Feb 20 20:51:58 GNUtoo: still busy? Feb 20 20:52:00 :) Feb 20 20:52:25 yes nearly finished Feb 20 20:52:31 maybe 10-15min Feb 20 20:55:46 k Feb 20 21:05:08 centos anybody? is there a standard to manage initscripts, similar to e.g. inssrv ? Feb 20 21:08:55 nm Feb 20 21:17:14 wpwrak: ssid "Paul-g700ac" works while "Paul-g700ao", "Paul-g700ap", "Paul-g700aq" don't :-O Want me to try something else? Feb 20 21:17:24 lindi-: do you probably want to confirm the issue? Feb 20 21:27:04 GNUtoo: now? Feb 20 21:27:37 I've something else to do again....grrr Feb 20 21:27:50 (grrr for the something else to do) Feb 20 21:30:26 wpwrak: well, probably some latest results are bogus, it doesn't connect to the "Paul-g700ac" anymore too, probably i should have power-cycled the chip every time. Feb 20 21:30:37 GNUtoo: ok Feb 20 21:30:44 np Feb 20 21:30:58 I simply can't do ANY rootimage again Feb 20 21:31:02 with this problem -.- Feb 20 21:32:49 leviathan: FATAL ERROR: msgfmt does not seem to be installed. ? Feb 20 21:33:50 leviathan: probably you need bitbake gettext-native? Feb 20 21:33:58 hmm Feb 20 21:34:00 I'll try Feb 20 21:34:15 but shouldn't it be a depency of the package if its so?? Feb 20 21:34:22 leviathan: it definetely should Feb 20 21:37:34 Anyone want to try to set their AP to WPA/RSN and SSID=Paul-g700ap and check if FR connects to it? Feb 20 21:40:56 PaulFertser: I still have this error :( Feb 20 21:41:57 leviathan: take a look at config.log, probably it'll give you an idea at why it can't find the tool. Feb 20 21:42:18 leviathan: btw, do you have gettext-dev or something like that installed on your host OS? Feb 20 21:42:27 That's some stupid issue :( Feb 20 21:42:45 ohh Feb 20 21:42:51 its gentoo -.- Feb 20 21:43:05 sure I have headers installed Feb 20 21:44:36 PaulFertser: (ssid "Paul-g700ac") LOL Feb 20 21:45:02 DocScrutinizer: i just tried changing the last letter from "p" to other random letters :) Feb 20 21:45:28 The issue as is is a bigh laugh Feb 20 21:45:36 Oh yeah Feb 20 21:45:41 Needs independent verification though Feb 20 21:47:06 JesusMcCloud, mind sending me your db? I want to test your bug Feb 20 21:47:13 PaulFertser: probably the md5 of ssid incidentally matches your kernel revision :-P Feb 20 21:47:14 just came back from a crazy lan party Feb 20 21:47:35 TAsn, didn' i already do it? anayways will send now Feb 20 21:47:38 TAsn, what games? Feb 20 21:47:47 COD4 and L4D2 Feb 20 21:47:54 JesusMcCloud, you sent me an old db Feb 20 21:48:41 what is L4D2? Feb 20 21:48:51 JaMae, left 4 dead 2 Feb 20 21:48:54 i guess... Feb 20 21:48:56 yes Feb 20 21:50:24 $ ldd /usr/local/lib/libphone-ui.so Feb 20 21:50:24 linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb788d000) Feb 20 21:50:24 libframeworkd-glib.so.0 => not found Feb 20 21:50:24 ... Feb 20 21:50:25 :( Feb 20 21:50:35 why does freenode support nickserv when even after identification I cannot reclaim my nick? :/ Feb 20 21:50:38 I can't seem to fix it, any clues anyone? Feb 20 21:50:42 JaMae: you can Feb 20 21:50:50 JaMae: either "ghost" Feb 20 21:50:57 JaMae: or use identify with two arguments Feb 20 21:50:59 JaMae: huh? Feb 20 21:51:02 TAsn, sent Feb 20 21:51:10 PaulFertser: PaulFertser ok.. I'll read docs, thanks Feb 20 21:51:30 :) Feb 20 21:51:38 /msg nickserv id Feb 20 21:51:55 /msg nickserv ghost Feb 20 21:52:08 /nick Feb 20 21:52:42 or Feb 20 21:52:54 /msg nickserv ghost Feb 20 21:53:02 I was expecting that /nick will issue ghost automatically :) Feb 20 21:53:18 /nick Feb 20 21:53:34 /msg nickserv id Feb 20 21:53:43 and I was identified with nickserv so it was easy.. btw what is shown to that other account? Feb 20 21:53:44 yay :P Feb 20 21:53:45 Fixed. Feb 20 21:54:08 PaulFertser, DocScrutinizer: thanks :) Feb 20 21:54:16 yw Feb 20 21:54:52 mrmoku, ping Feb 20 21:55:46 mrmoku, just wanted to let you know that phonefsod still has this issue where backlight is switched off completely... Feb 20 21:57:22 JesusMcCloud: hmm Feb 20 21:57:47 mrmoku, happened 3 times today already Feb 20 21:58:26 JesusMcCloud: any idea when that happens? Feb 20 21:58:34 tzzz, bluetoothd started on my vserver box :-S Feb 20 21:58:41 JesusMcCloud: are you manually changing the backlight? Feb 20 21:58:57 and avahi :-/ Feb 20 21:59:12 mrmoku, nope Feb 20 21:59:24 JesusMcCloud: any strange apps you use? :P Feb 20 21:59:27 mrmoku, although.. lemme check Feb 20 22:00:24 mickeyl, i think you can upload a new vala package. i forgot a lot of stuff Feb 20 22:01:09 i use opimd notifier, disabled shr-today. one case where it happened repetedly was when the phone was booting: the first time the backlight switches off, touch the screen, then it will blink and then stay black Feb 20 22:04:03 JesusMcCloud: hmm... just curious... why do you use opimd-notifier? Feb 20 22:04:25 mrmoku, btw Feb 20 22:04:33 new opimd now has field EntryId Feb 20 22:05:06 mrmoku, because it the most convenient way of responding to sms, plus when i miss a call, i instantly know who called withotu having to wait 10 seconds+ for pyphonelog to start up Feb 20 22:06:21 JesusMcCloud: ok, we will have to offer something for that then :) Feb 20 22:07:03 mrmoku, or i start a consipracy with dos1... Feb 20 22:09:43 mrmoku, btw, I know why the trash icon doesn't work Feb 20 22:09:51 You try to send NULL Feb 20 22:09:52 instead of "" Feb 20 22:10:09 ahh nice :P Feb 20 22:12:02 mrmoku, any progress on the sms contact selection bug? Feb 20 22:12:06 Haven't fixed it yet Feb 20 22:12:15 because you also have many checks to know if you should update Feb 20 22:12:19 in other places there Feb 20 22:12:35 so I didn't want to change it now that I don't have time to test it properly Feb 20 22:12:35 TAsn, ok Feb 20 22:12:40 though prlease remind me tomorrow Feb 20 22:12:52 JesusMcCloud, will take a look at your db in a flash Feb 20 22:12:56 please send to pm Feb 20 22:13:00 the number you tried to resolve Feb 20 22:13:02 and what you got Feb 20 22:13:08 brb Feb 20 22:13:10 k Feb 20 22:22:14 Good news is that wpa_supplicant survives suspend all right and reconnects automatically. With proper wpa_cli line it even gets dhcp lease again. Feb 20 22:24:09 PaulFertser: just catching up with your results. if you go on like this, you'll have to make a movie ;-) Feb 20 22:24:39 wpwrak: quite an unexciting one i'm afraid Feb 20 22:25:26 PaulFertser: adhoc? Feb 20 22:25:30 lindi-: AP Feb 20 22:27:03 PaulFertser: add some cute hackerette and a wily terrorist, and success will be yours. ah, maybe some parenthood issues as well, for the 30+ audience. Feb 20 22:27:31 wpwrak: find me a hackerette first Feb 20 22:27:48 (and i won't need to make a movie after that obviously ;) ) Feb 20 22:28:06 * mwester shudders at some of the "hackerettes" in movies Feb 20 22:28:07 (will keep her for myself) Feb 20 22:28:18 "The Net" -- OMG that was awful. Feb 20 22:28:23 mwester: he said "cute" ;) Feb 20 22:28:47 She was cute. But overshadowed by an awful plot. Feb 20 22:29:25 PaulFertser: how to find a female companion, the sequel ? :) Feb 20 22:29:59 wpwrak: exactly Feb 20 22:30:38 She should understand xkcd and use gentoo, no less. Feb 20 22:30:51 mwester: priorities, priorities ... where would you be if your ancestors had worried about the plot while cuteness was right there before their eyes ? Feb 20 22:31:11 * mwester snorts his soda out his nose at Paul's comment Feb 20 22:31:14 :D Feb 20 22:31:44 Good luck on your search! :D I'm sure they're out there, but few and far between.... Feb 20 22:32:24 PaulFertser: i guess a few PhD in natural sciences or technical disciplines would be approproate as well, e.g., theoretical physics and civil engineering Feb 20 22:33:03 wpwrak: i'm not sure i'll be able to cope with a woman _that_ smarter than me, so no, thanks ;) Feb 20 22:33:23 Magister degree is quite enough Feb 20 22:33:24 PaulFertser: yeah, let's settle for "Miss Venezuela" :) Feb 20 22:33:28 PaulFertser: check this one ;) http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/gentoo/index.html Feb 20 22:34:25 * mwester wonders if that URL is NSFW Feb 20 22:34:33 JaMa: :-O Feb 20 22:34:54 mwester: it's safe Feb 20 22:35:33 * PaulFertser should get a place of lab assistant there at NZ, was considering to try that anyway Feb 20 22:35:36 :D Feb 20 22:38:57 Sun, incredible woods all around and road cycling for the whole year. Must be an amazing place. (at least it is in my distorted reflection of reality) Feb 20 22:39:44 Sounds a lot like the way they used to describe California, before reality set in. Feb 20 22:39:46 PaulFertser: let's not forget the orcs. at least there were lots of them in the last pictures i saw from there. they've probably already eaten her. so sad. Feb 20 22:40:21 wpwrak: i hope those geeky girls have a nest there so that's a non-issue. Feb 20 22:41:36 PaulFertser: i see that you've been working on upgrading those "72 virgin" concepts popular in the arab world as well. the main flaws are indeed the "virgins" and "after death" parts. Feb 20 22:42:11 PaulFertser: that is, unless you consider it the clever marketing ploy it probably is Feb 20 22:42:16 mwester: btw, i'm missing an opportunity to fly to california this summer with my parents because i do not agree with the usa taking fingerprints of all the foreigners. Guess i'm better off just watching "Easy Rider" again. Feb 20 22:42:50 wpwrak: virgins are overrated anyway Feb 20 22:43:24 PaulFertser: indeed. now that the gods haven't much of a taste for sacrifices anymore, ... Feb 20 22:44:30 You're not missing anything by not going to California, believe me. And as for the border, it regularly takes me 2 hours to clear customs from Canada, and I'm a citizen. But if you really want to get into California, it's probably faster (and no fingerprints necessary) to fly into Mexico and cross illegally. Thousands do it every week. Feb 20 22:46:57 mwester: and if i'm getting caught, the fingerprinting will be damn justified :) Thanks for the advice anyway. :) Feb 20 22:47:21 JaMa: ok Feb 20 22:47:24 wtf? Feb 20 22:47:34 PaulFertser: of course, one has to wonder if the availability of film hasn't lead to gods and beasts demanding virgin sacrifices finding themselves short of a suitable food supply. e.g., could debbie have taken precautions against being fed to a dragon threatening dallas ? Feb 20 22:47:43 leviathan: ? :) Feb 20 22:47:55 gentoo... Feb 20 22:48:10 she is more than ok :) Feb 20 22:48:12 Good. A woman was the reason why I tried it, but... Feb 20 22:48:18 I mean gentoo Feb 20 22:48:35 okee Feb 20 22:48:44 leviathan: that phrase could rank high in the general famous last words :) Feb 20 22:48:54 lol Feb 20 22:48:57 nja Feb 20 22:49:19 anyway Feb 20 22:49:38 No interest ATM, better to do, then hang around and flirt Feb 20 22:49:48 I've got important work to do Feb 20 22:50:16 ... for example getting this f*'n attr to build -.- Feb 20 22:50:27 for building an usable rootfs again Feb 20 22:50:37 GNUtoo needs one for try'n sound... Feb 20 22:50:47 leviathan: JaMa can help you with that, he knows OE Feb 20 22:50:59 uhm, okee Feb 20 22:51:18 it started recently after an update of the OE tree Feb 20 22:51:25 leviathan: have you found config.log for the failing compenent? Feb 20 22:52:08 you mean this one? http://pastebin.com/m7c5d9dd8 Feb 20 22:52:44 leviathan: no, i mean "config.log", it should have more details how it tries and fails to find "msgfmt" Feb 20 22:53:02 hmm, ok Feb 20 22:53:08 leviathan: should be at /mnt/sda/fso/build/tmp/work/armv6-novfp-oe-linux-gnueabi/attr-2.4.44-r1/attr-2.4.44/ probably Feb 20 22:53:13 uhm Feb 20 22:53:14 oh Feb 20 22:53:16 ok Feb 20 22:53:19 I'll look Feb 20 22:54:01 wpwrak: so what about the ssid mistery? Feb 20 22:55:59 PaulFertser: here it is: http://pastebin.com/m452c5390 Feb 20 22:57:30 leviathan: hm, sorry, no clues there. What about gettext-native? And can you check if msgfmt got installed inside the OE tree? Feb 20 22:58:18 * PaulFertser also can't understand why the configure script might fail to find OS-provided msgfmt Feb 20 22:59:52 leviathan: there's also a cool bitbake feature, the devshell. You just do "bitbake -c devshell " and it drops you in exactly the same environment used to build the recipe, it might be handier to try to sort out the gettext issue from there. Feb 20 23:00:37 I hope JaMa can provide you with more valuable advices. Feb 20 23:01:05 cool Feb 20 23:01:08 I'll try Feb 20 23:01:41 OE is such a pita sometimes Feb 20 23:02:21 ERROR: Task do_devshell does not exist for target attr Feb 20 23:03:25 leviathan: INHERIT += "devshell" in your local.conf might be needed for that to work Feb 20 23:03:53 ok Feb 20 23:05:20 ./staging/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/msgfmt Feb 20 23:05:21 ok Feb 20 23:05:23 seems installed Feb 20 23:05:29 but it doesnt get found Feb 20 23:06:49 leviathan: probably some nasty way of "finding" is hardcoded in the attr's configure script Feb 20 23:07:10 Does it have +x btw? Feb 20 23:07:42 leviathan: it founds msgfmt from host (/usr/bin/msgfmt) instead of staging.. so there is bug, and you can work-around it with gettext on your buildhost I guess Feb 20 23:07:59 uhm Feb 20 23:08:12 JaMa: why do you think it finds any msgfmt at all? Feb 20 23:08:27 means I should simply ASSUME_PROVIDED Feb 20 23:08:34 for gettext? Feb 20 23:09:03 leviathan: see m4/package_utilies.m4 Feb 20 23:09:17 PaulFertser: I see it in my config.log Feb 20 23:09:28 JaMa: but not in his Feb 20 23:09:43 JaMa: i mean he has msgfmt installed on his host Feb 20 23:09:49 * sys-devel/gettext Feb 20 23:09:49 Latest version available: 0.17 Feb 20 23:09:49 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Feb 20 23:09:49 Size of files: 11,368 kB Feb 20 23:09:49 Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html Feb 20 23:09:51 Description: GNU locale utilities Feb 20 23:09:53 License: GPL-3 LGPL-2 Feb 20 23:09:55 okee Feb 20 23:09:59 its not emerged Feb 20 23:10:00 hmm Feb 20 23:10:01 PaulFertser: and ie makedepend is found right in staging.. (and it's not in my building chroot) Feb 20 23:10:13 00:42 < PaulFertser> leviathan: btw, do you have gettext-dev or something like that installed on your host OS? Feb 20 23:10:18 00:42 < leviathan> its gentoo -.- Feb 20 23:10:19 should I emerge it and watch what happens? Feb 20 23:10:24 PaulFertser: and paths where it's looking for binary are hardcoded in that m4/package_utilies.m4 Feb 20 23:10:32 JaMa: i see :) Feb 20 23:10:37 leviathan: yes Feb 20 23:10:43 ok Feb 20 23:10:48 told ya Feb 20 23:10:49 ;) Feb 20 23:10:57 leviathan: or create patch for m4/package_utilies.m4 and send it to oe-devel ML (preferred) :) Feb 20 23:11:08 ^^ Feb 20 23:11:53 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * r5e27f38957ad 10/src/view/ (contact-view.c contact-view.h): Added missing include Feb 20 23:21:14 ok Feb 20 23:21:19 it really builds now Feb 20 23:21:20 ... Feb 20 23:25:08 PaulFertser: you could try a scripted test: try all (e)ssid combinations with one or two letters changing. repeat several times. then see if you get a) stable results and b) if there's a pattern in the letters that work/don't work. Feb 20 23:25:53 PaulFertser: not sure if you'll find anything but an academically interesting pattern, but at least it would be a fun result to share with your hacker friends over a few vodkas ;-) Feb 20 23:48:15 wpwrak: i seem to be getting stable results with "Paul-g700ap" never working :) I'm not sure i'm ready to prepare such an automated test, also finding a pattern is no fun anyway if the bug's hidden inside the blob. And the last vodka i had with a fellow hacker was almost a year ago in Nurnberg anyway. Feb 20 23:49:38 wpwrak: what's more important from a practice pov is to find out why the hell "wpa_cli -a mycoolscript_tostart_dhclient" doesn't always work after resume. Feb 20 23:51:12 PaulFertser: (blob) yeah, there's always that risk. i think you can see why i had some difficulties motivating myself to hunt wlan bugs after a while :) Feb 20 23:51:20 freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * rd73355d2efe1 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py): Fixed a small issue with error handling with regex in db Feb 20 23:51:49 PaulFertser: (resume) no idea :) Feb 20 23:52:46 wpwrak: it loses its connection to wpa_supplicant but even if i specify -G1000 to avoid ping timeout it doesn't work after the second resume. Seems like the ctrl interface of wpa_supplicant is not that solid. :/ Feb 20 23:53:54 PaulFertser: sounds ugly :( well, look at the bright side of it - the world will be a better place once you've debugged and fixed it :) Feb 20 23:54:39 wpwrak: thanks for your encouragements :) Feb 21 00:16:19 PaulFertser: greetings from fellow hacker in Nuernberg :-) This hacker sugests first of all to find out if changing of any letter but the last (rightmost) in SSID does avoid the problem. If it's just the last letter, maybe in combination with this particular length of SSID-string, then we would know a lot more about possible gear behind the scenes of this weird bug Feb 21 00:17:17 DocScrutinizer: ok, i'll try that :D Feb 21 00:23:24 so I'll go out having a wodka, and then another one in your name ;-) Feb 21 00:26:36 freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * r4f83b21d27a9 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/db_handler.py: Don't send duplicated results when each part of the query matches a contact more than once Feb 21 00:27:19 DocScrutinizer: have fun :D Feb 21 00:33:13 Hm, 0.6.9 wpa_supplicant doesn't work anymore with ar6000, association times out. Feb 21 00:37:01 wpa_driver_wext_associate Feb 21 00:37:01 wpa_driver_wext_set_psk Feb 21 00:37:01 Association request to the driver failed Feb 21 00:57:36 PaulFertser: cheers ;-) err nastrovje Feb 21 00:58:36 PaulFertser: which device are you testing wifi on? Feb 21 00:58:40 PaulFertser: 2 Russian Standard Feb 21 01:00:41 second one is on you :-D Feb 21 01:13:25 JaMa, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/4888e5082bc37dc7e0dae004a8b068fd.png Feb 21 01:25:38 PaulFertser: another set o two? :-P Feb 21 01:45:29 Uhm Feb 21 01:45:36 JaMa: is that paroli? Feb 21 01:45:47 JesusMcCloud: is that paroli? Feb 21 01:46:21 leviathan, this is the newest part opt the nEo theme Feb 21 01:46:27 s/opt/of/ Feb 21 01:46:27 JesusMcCloud meant: leviathan, this is the newest part of the nEo theme Feb 21 01:46:33 oh Feb 21 01:46:35 ok? Feb 21 01:46:42 hackish Feb 21 01:46:49 but I would say Feb 21 01:46:57 mainstream would it consider ugly Feb 21 01:46:58 ;) Feb 21 01:47:09 noo not hackish at all, actually more correct that the default edc Feb 21 01:47:40 leviathan, but using neo theme boost performance Feb 21 01:48:06 why do I beliefe this? ;) Feb 21 01:48:08 btw Feb 21 01:48:15 I ment simply green on black Feb 21 01:48:23 with nearly ascii art style Feb 21 01:48:28 seems little bit matrix Feb 21 01:48:31 hacker style Feb 21 01:48:34 such hackish ;) Feb 21 01:48:48 style is that way yes... Feb 21 01:49:20 leviathan, but gry* them is also quite fast (was faster than nEo them befor i started to rewrite nEo from scratch) Feb 21 01:50:01 dos's niebiee theme is als quite fast (it is based on nEo theme) Feb 21 01:50:44 I like this gras green background theme Feb 21 01:51:20 uhm wallpaper Feb 21 01:51:21 the on incorporating the shr-logo? Feb 21 01:51:30 uhhm Feb 21 01:51:38 seems nice anyway ;) Feb 21 01:53:32 it took months until enough people realized the potential of smart themes (after i qrote gry*, because neo was too hacker-style, niebiee to blue, so i made a neutral one an now even a theme contest is running...) Feb 21 01:54:36 hmm, ok Feb 21 01:54:43 I can try it ;) Feb 21 01:55:08 leviathan, ? Feb 21 01:55:19 the theme Feb 21 01:55:22 I could try it Feb 21 01:55:30 also on htcdream :) Feb 21 01:55:32 gry* is default for shr Feb 21 01:55:38 hmm, okee Feb 21 01:55:40 YESS! Feb 21 01:57:08 if u want to try nEo u must install e-wm-theme-illume-neo elementary-theme-neo (although i doubt that the latest version is built), phoneui-shr-theme-neo (bug in phoneui <- tell me when you're done) and i recommend icon-theme-neo Feb 21 01:57:39 make sure you install the MOST RECENT version of the themes, because old ones will fuck up your system, because of wrong dependencies Feb 21 01:58:01 I'm building it ATM from org.oe.dev Feb 21 01:58:05 ;) Feb 21 01:58:11 so Feb 21 01:58:13 np Feb 21 01:58:24 tomorrow I will have the most recent from scratch Feb 21 01:58:35 if you want the shr-today them aswell tell me, since i haven't commited it yet Feb 21 02:00:12 oh Feb 21 02:00:16 ok Feb 21 02:00:25 even rastr was impressed by the performance, WUAHAHAH Feb 21 02:02:23 JesusMcCloud: mickeyl was already impressed by the performance he got with the default shr-theme on htcdream ;D Feb 21 02:03:05 leviathan, old default? <-because htc dream hase more horsepower Feb 21 02:03:36 JesusMcCloud: jup Feb 21 02:04:35 leviathan, as soon as shr on htc dream is usable i'll get myself a dream Feb 21 02:04:39 the old style Feb 21 02:05:05 because the freerunner is really really sloooOOooow Feb 21 02:05:56 yes Feb 21 02:14:05 (now back to edje hacking) Feb 21 02:59:01 TAsn: (rastr) lol Feb 21 02:59:15 ??? Feb 21 02:59:25 [2010-02-21 03:00:25] even rastr was impressed by the performance, WUAHAHAH Feb 21 02:59:46 moinmoin rasterman :-D Feb 21 02:59:53 impressed by what performance? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 21 02:59:57 2010