**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 01 02:59:57 2010 Mar 01 06:27:21 hmm... buildhost is down :( Mar 01 06:29:12 Deubeuliou: ping Mar 01 06:29:29 heh, on maemo as well it seems ;-P Mar 01 06:29:54 do they build on bearstech servers? :P Mar 01 06:30:08 though not exactly buildhost, but repo Mar 01 06:30:35 might be just the occasional reboot Mar 01 06:39:11 mrmoku: yup, went down yesterday (last thing building based on what I had on screen in time it went down was cmake) Mar 01 06:39:20 mrmoku: and shr-lite-image Mar 01 06:39:45 :/ Mar 01 06:42:37 ok, will bring junior to the kindergarten then... bbl Mar 01 06:51:43 * JaMa found this new u-a issue :/ Mar 01 06:52:00 Merge finished, old directory '/usr/lib/ipkg/alternatives' is removed Mar 01 06:52:36 but something is using /usr/lib/ipkg -> /usr/lib/opkg symlink lately.. so /usr/lib/opkg/alternatives is removed as well Mar 01 06:57:51 hi all Mar 01 07:39:48 ~seen khorben Mar 01 07:39:49 khorben is currently on #openmoko, last said: 'thx'. Mar 01 07:40:22 fscking u-a! Mar 01 07:40:54 I should went to work an hour ago :/ Mar 01 07:46:49 mmm Mar 01 07:47:25 imho when you have to write something with a keyboard the only thing you need to see at *that* moment is what you are writing, that is perfectly visible with the easy touch keyboard Mar 01 07:50:35 I think that all depends if we are aiming to have a fully finger friendly distro or not Mar 01 07:51:18 (talking about switching from illume keyboard to easy touch keyboard by default in shr) Mar 01 08:24:26 graziano: you ever used a terminal? Mar 01 08:25:58 you mean a shell like bash or the terminal shr keyboard? Mar 01 08:45:13 fatal: http://git.shr-project.org/repo/shr-wizard.git/info/refs download error - while parsing /home/spaetz/src/shrbuildenv/shr-testing/openembedded/recipes/shr/shr-wizard_git.bb Mar 01 08:45:31 You guys don't want me to finish building an image, do you? :-P Mar 01 08:52:15 hmm, why is downloads.hackable1.org running but build.shr-project.org not? Mar 01 08:52:51 ahh, is the git server on the same box? That would explain why downloading fails. Mar 01 08:52:58 oh because http://build.hackable1.org/ is on the same server as build.shr-project.org... Mar 01 08:53:21 spaetz: build and git are on the same server Mar 01 08:53:37 ok, that would explain that. Mar 01 08:53:55 JaMa: has someone asked Bearstech? Mar 01 08:54:15 * spaetz thinks we might need to look for some more powerful replacement... Mar 01 08:57:12 wake_up_process(JaMa) Mar 01 08:57:33 spaetz: yes, we need a server sponsor :) Mar 01 08:59:18 spaetz: i think the server it self wouldn't be such a problem, only the connection Mar 01 08:59:20 you need a build server? Mar 01 08:59:47 mickey|office: build.shr-project.org is damn slow Mar 01 08:59:52 i could hand out a couple of accounts to amethyst.openembedded.net Mar 01 09:01:14 the build server is not only slow. It is also down. Mar 01 09:01:21 at least downloading git fails. Mar 01 09:01:35 which prevents me from building images, which annoys the hell out of me. Mar 01 09:01:43 he will come back :) Mar 01 09:01:57 and that in turn makes me grumpy. Which is not what you want to experience.... ! :) Mar 01 09:02:18 Deubeuliou: do you know sth about the h:1 & shr buildserver? Mar 01 09:02:20 and which makes me feel sorry as I know that it is not the fault of any of you. Mar 01 09:10:36 JaMa, what about my locale? :P Mar 01 09:15:42 JaMa, because opkg upgrade changed nothing (concerning that issue) Mar 01 09:27:59 jama! for some reason locale-base-en-us is empty! :( Mar 01 09:28:44 oh actually, it probably sholud be Mar 01 09:40:20 Heinervdm: no, but I can see it went down Mar 01 09:40:28 I'll ask Mar 01 09:40:47 Deubeuliou: thx :) Mar 01 09:43:05 it seems it went OOM Mar 01 09:51:20 btw, Heinervdm, if it has trouble again in the future, you can ask on #bearstech Mar 01 09:51:52 Deubeuliou: ok didn't know that they have a IRC channel Mar 01 09:52:54 Heinervdm, Deubeuliou: I've seen mrmoku pinging bearstech people, but also didn't know about #bearstech channel, thanks Mar 01 09:53:08 np Mar 01 09:53:26 Ainulindale, ping Mar 01 09:53:30 Deubeuliou: last thing building for shr was cmake.. so maybe something wrong there went it OOM, but still strange.. Mar 01 09:53:51 Weiss: InterruptedSleepException Mar 01 09:54:10 Weiss: but OK, I was awake for last 4 hours :) Mar 01 09:54:19 mkfs.ubifs[22491]: segfault at 0000012000000228 rip 0000000000403e86 rsp 00007fffa20d8690 error 4 Mar 01 09:54:32 Deubeuliou: that's "normal" Mar 01 09:54:35 Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed! Mar 01 09:54:42 Bad page state in process 'kswapd0' Mar 01 09:54:45 Ah not about double free? Mar 01 09:54:59 JaMa, have you checked for any locale related changes done lately? Mar 01 09:55:20 Deubeuliou: mkfs.ubifs usually says that max LEBs count is too low when it builds to big image.. but this looks like something different :/ Mar 01 09:55:45 TAsn: yes in task-shr-minimal and I reverted my changes touching locales.. Mar 01 09:55:59 still broken :| Mar 01 09:56:03 maybe it's not shr related? Mar 01 09:56:14 I have no idea Mar 01 09:56:27 they are not very helpful in OE Mar 01 09:56:42 TAsn: opkg upgrade was waiting for that build to finish and rsync :) Mar 01 09:57:02 TAsn: probably not broken as it works in images built on my host Mar 01 09:57:16 TAsn: pong Mar 01 09:57:31 Ainulindale, you fixed locales last time, got any idea what you did? :P Mar 01 09:58:12 I prayed Mar 01 09:58:16 Let me think about it over a coffee Mar 01 09:58:31 * JaMa building shr-lite-image again.. hopefully mkfs.ubifs will behave and won't break buildhost :/ Mar 01 09:59:57 Ainulindale, unfortunately I lost my awesome package ;( Mar 01 10:07:51 JaMa, just manually created a new locale Mar 01 10:07:56 doesn't work still ;( Mar 01 10:09:47 huh where does openmoko builder get this? :) http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.30.4_2.6.30.4-r0_om-gta02.ipk Mar 01 10:09:59 created 30-Jan-2010 16:27 2.1K Mar 01 10:14:03 hmm reading about stripping problem with latest oe.dev and older/newer file utility makes me sad Mar 01 10:14:25 if we're affected on shr buildhost.. then we have another 30hours to rebuild it again.. Mar 01 10:27:57 Hi, folks. Mar 01 10:28:28 Can you please explain me why there's nobody who tried changing his AP's SSID to "Paul-g700ap" to confirm or deny my suspicion that ssid matters? Mar 01 10:28:50 Why i got almost no feedback about wpa_cli auto-dhcp scheme? Mar 01 10:28:59 folks = who? Mar 01 10:29:04 Why people get kernel oops and do not report them? Mar 01 10:29:12 TAsn: whoever cares Mar 01 10:29:28 I mean, it looks like something is wrong. Mar 01 10:30:08 I got almost no feedback about my latest wifi letter and that bothers me. Mar 01 10:30:28 I do not understand that. Mar 01 10:30:29 * TAsn haven't used wifi on the moko for ages. Mar 01 10:30:37 me neither Mar 01 10:31:15 Also i do not understand why people with debug boards (i'm sure there's plenty of them) are not jumping in to make the latest kernel work reliably and/or to investigate "nodebug" kernel problems... Mar 01 10:31:20 JaMa, to cut a long story short, is there an image I can install that propely handles utf8 in shr-messages? Mar 01 10:31:41 PaulFertser: would need to connect the debug board, but got no matching torx :) Mar 01 10:31:44 TAsn: still buiding.. Mar 01 10:31:55 NOTE: Running task 7212 of 7215 (ID: 10, /home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/images/shr-lite-image.bb, do_rootfs) Mar 01 10:31:58 then you can check Mar 01 10:32:10 * Wonka needs more time Mar 01 10:32:19 Wonka: it also requires kernel debugging experience of course. Mar 01 10:32:49 PaulFertser: got a little of that... even got a patch into linux :) Mar 01 10:33:03 Wonka: cool. Actually, same here :) Mar 01 10:33:56 can we please switch to 10-day-weeks while keeping the 40 hours of work per week? Mar 01 10:36:14 Wonka: lol Mar 01 10:38:45 JaMa, please build gry theme again when you can :P Mar 01 10:38:58 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r2b62d1c9b02d 10/elementary/elementary-theme-gry/gry.edc: Fixed all the error messages in gry.edc index Mar 01 10:41:17 hmm python[6855]: segfault at 000000000002ab61 rip 00000000004bce31 rsp 00007fff746add40 error 4 while building fso-abyss Mar 01 10:41:47 nice Mar 01 10:43:22 alway a reassuring experience to see the interpreter segfault Mar 01 10:43:48 JaMa: abyss is written in python? Mar 01 10:47:37 PaulFertser: s/requires/is a chance to gain/ :) Mar 01 10:48:01 makes sense to think about what you can learn rather than what you "can and can't" do Mar 01 10:48:06 lindi-: no but bitbake is.. Mar 01 10:48:16 lindi-: that's the problem.. Mar 01 10:49:02 happen 3 times today.. on random places (fso-abyss, task-shr-minimal, opkg-native) Mar 01 10:50:25 PaulFertser: i did not see any mail about your wifi ssid issue, only the IRC discussion Mar 01 10:51:05 lindi-: i've sent it to community ML Mar 01 10:51:17 lindi-: and yes, i'm an ass for not filing a ticket on trac. Mar 01 10:51:30 PaulFertser: what subject? Mar 01 10:52:00 0 ! [Paul Fertser ] ar6000 (FR's wifi) bugs, workarounds and CLI usage tips, read this for stable wifi? Mar 01 10:52:01 SHR: 03tom 07phoneuid * rbe0c9364a0b5 10/data/phoneui-wrapper.sh: Changed the wrapper so normal exit won't trigger a reload Mar 01 10:52:23 lindi-: lindi- ar6000 (FR's wifi) bugs, workarounds and CLI usage tips Mar 01 10:52:56 mrmoku, I can't seem to figure out this resizing bug ;( Mar 01 10:53:00 mind taking a look? Mar 01 10:53:11 (contact-view) Mar 01 10:53:25 PaulFertser: can my laptop do wpa in adhoc mode? ;) Mar 01 10:53:37 PaulFertser: if yes then i could test it :P Mar 01 10:53:42 TAsn: what resizing bug? Mar 01 10:53:52 something I "added" :P Mar 01 10:53:55 please take a look Mar 01 10:54:32 lindi-: Note: IBSS can only be used with key_mgmt NONE (plaintext and static WEP) Mar 01 10:54:36 lindi-: means no, you can't Mar 01 10:55:14 lindi-: or you have to use key_mgmt=WPA-NONE (fixed group key TKIP/CCMP) Mar 01 10:55:15 TAsn: yeah, trying to get it to build again... need to make my stuff -Werror compatible :P Mar 01 10:55:24 :) Mar 01 10:55:37 lindi-: i'm not sure it's quite the same as the tests in my environment. Mar 01 10:56:02 PaulFertser: blah, i don't like wlan technology very much :) there's no reason why my laptop couldn't work as an AP... Mar 01 10:56:08 TAsn: you want to bump SRCREV for -gry before rebuiding, right? :) Mar 01 10:56:19 lindi-: what driver are you using? Mar 01 10:56:22 not terribly important Mar 01 10:56:28 but if you can, why not Mar 01 10:56:32 JaMa, can I upgrade now? Mar 01 10:56:50 TAsn: no Mar 01 10:56:55 :) Mar 01 10:57:09 PaulFertser: ath5k i think Mar 01 10:57:17 lindi-: it does support AP Mar 01 10:57:38 PaulFertser: on aspire one? that'd be cool. got some steps to reproduce your bug with? Mar 01 10:59:09 lindi-: laptop model doesn't matter. I hope you're using a sufficiently recent (2.6.31 would probably work) kernel or compat-wireless. I guess first you want to configure hostapd to require WPA or RSN (WPA2) and set your SSID to something that should work (e.g. "Paul-g700af"). Then you ensure you can associate and authenticate with FR to the AP. Mar 01 10:59:42 TAsn: hmm something doesn't want you to upgrade today :( "IOError: CRC check failed 0xbd655040 != 0x9e3330eaL while package-index" Mar 01 10:59:53 :) Mar 01 11:03:24 lindi-: i want to warn you that even if it doesn't work with a known-good ssid it doesn't prove anything. E.g. pocketpc clients couldn't connect to it :-O Mar 01 11:03:38 PaulFertser: i probably have something older than 2.6.31 but can't check right now Mar 01 11:04:05 lindi-: you can install compat-wireless then, it's a set of networking drivers backported to older kernels. Mar 01 11:06:36 spaetz: do you still have shr-autorev.inc in shr.conf for shr-testing? because without it it should build fine without git (but http://build.shr-project.org/sources/ would be needed, so won't help with whole buildhost down) Mar 01 11:14:04 lindi-: i mean i have a laptop with ath5k and had problems with using it as AP with stupid winmo clients. Mar 01 11:14:53 PaulFertser: argh. if only wlan worked like ethernet :) Mar 01 11:22:27 PaulFertser: do you know if i can use a BP-75LI battery in the FR (use not charge)? Mar 01 11:23:53 TAsn: rsync is running, you can be the first one to upgrade from it :) Mar 01 11:24:01 let me know ;) Mar 01 11:24:50 I'm already opkg upgrading :P Mar 01 11:25:23 oh Mar 01 11:26:10 * opkg_download: Failed to download http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4/Packages.gz: HTTP response code said error. Mar 01 11:26:34 TAsn: yeah.. it's harmless but fixing it atm Mar 01 11:27:40 Heinervdm: does it physically fit? Mar 01 11:27:56 PaulFertser: yes Mar 01 11:28:24 Heinervdm: what's its output voltage? Mar 01 11:28:40 3.7V Mar 01 11:29:17 and polarization is also the same Mar 01 11:29:23 TAsn: have to pickup son from the kindergarten now... will continue after lunch Mar 01 11:29:44 cool Mar 01 11:30:02 JaMa, no good upgrades Mar 01 11:30:08 TAsn: why? Mar 01 11:30:11 I guess it's due to things already existing Mar 01 11:30:20 (I'm talking about locale) Mar 01 11:30:28 Heinervdm: then i see no reason why it won't work (and charge too btw). Mar 01 11:30:29 is there an image available for me to try? Mar 01 11:30:35 (just to make sure it's what I think it is) Mar 01 11:30:39 TAsn: yes 0301 is from today :) Mar 01 11:30:40 Heinervdm: where does it come from? Mar 01 11:30:47 sweet, thanks. Mar 01 11:30:50 Heinervdm: what's its capacity? Mar 01 11:30:51 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * re2f6926a7eea 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Now saving type of field as well for future use and it also makes everything easier Mar 01 11:30:56 PaulFertser: ok, thx. i just don't want to brick it Mar 01 11:31:14 PaulFertser: its from a Audioline M4500 (Seniorenhandy) Mar 01 11:31:37 PaulFertser: it has 750mAh Mar 01 11:32:03 Heinervdm: ah, so it's just some random bat you have around. I guess it should fully work with FR. Mar 01 11:32:38 PaulFertser: FR is booted, but there is no Battery info. Mar 01 11:32:51 Heinervdm: that's normal Mar 01 11:33:05 Heinervdm: you need to unbind bq27000 and load gta01_battery Mar 01 11:33:13 PaulFertser: i just want to discharge and charge it properly before i hand it to my grandma Mar 01 11:33:17 Heinervdm: but it only affects reporting. Mar 01 11:33:48 Heinervdm: LiIon batteries do not have "memory effect" so discharging them doesn't make my sense (at least that's how i understand it). Mar 01 11:34:56 PaulFertser: but don't they reach full potential only after few discharge-charge cycles? Mar 01 11:36:19 TAsn: ah, did opkg segfault for you too? Mar 01 11:36:26 no Mar 01 11:36:40 Heinervdm: i guess it's not applicable to the LiIon batteries. At least that's what i read about. Mar 01 11:36:48 "Alignment trap: opkg (838) " in dmesg and opkg segfaults here after opkg upgrade :/ Mar 01 11:37:34 PaulFertser: ok, thx Mar 01 12:25:07 ~lart win7-digital-signature-requirements Mar 01 12:25:07 * apt takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays win7-digital-signature-requirements in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed Mar 01 12:27:21 that means no flashing using dfu-util-windows... time to dig out a livecd Mar 01 12:27:35 sicu: hm? can you clarify? Mar 01 12:33:54 PaulFertser: seems win7x64 require all device drivers to be digitally signed (more $ to microsoft? :/) or you won't be able to use them Mar 01 12:34:33 sicu: i'm sure even if it does so by default you can turn this "feature" off. Mar 01 12:35:41 PaulFertser: hehe, you would think that would be an easy registry hack, but alas microsoft wants to be an eternal pain in my backside Mar 01 12:36:41 mickey|office: yes there any plan to make fso_gpsd independent on frameworkd? now it's in RDEPENDS Mar 01 12:36:43 there is something called "Disable Driver Signing in Windows Using Group Policy Editor", but that only works for 32 bit Mar 01 12:36:56 sicu: are you damn sure? ;) Mar 01 12:38:59 hi there, just wanted to say 'nice work'. todays shr-u upgrade works like a charm, gsm registered instantly, even with opkg supplied frameworkd.conf (loglevel=INFO) Mar 01 12:44:25 sicu: http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=dseo ? Mar 01 12:44:27 PaulFertser: well, there is a method by manually altering loadoptions of the bootloader and boot into some kind of testing environment, but this requires a reboot whenever i want to "test" unsigned drivers ... so i might as well use a livecd Mar 01 12:47:49 PaulFertser: ah, thanks ... a permanent bootloader modifier and Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider Mar 01 12:49:28 sicu: heh, ms is definetely sick Mar 01 12:50:22 indeed, i'm seriously considering a career change so i can eliminate ms perminately from my future Mar 01 13:14:46 mrmoku|away, TAsn, spaetz, all: I asked lukhas from bearstech to diagnose why python segfaults there today *a lot* so please expect some downtime for memtest/fsck/whatever they'll need Mar 01 13:14:59 :P Mar 01 13:15:00 ok Mar 01 13:20:10 PaulFertser: meh, i guess that was a no go since i'm using grub Mar 01 13:20:45 the program would probably need some modification to take that into account Mar 01 13:22:12 well, i'll go back into virtualbox, should get things working there eventually Mar 01 13:28:35 TAsn: ok, I think I can see your resizing problem now :P Mar 01 13:28:41 the top part too small? Mar 01 13:29:36 no Mar 01 13:29:40 oh Mar 01 13:29:42 maybe :) Mar 01 13:29:49 and buttons missing down Mar 01 13:29:50 I don't think so though Mar 01 13:29:56 buttons are not missing Mar 01 13:30:00 I also updated the layout Mar 01 13:30:03 buttons are inside the pager now Mar 01 13:30:53 how to find them? :P Mar 01 13:31:19 well... let me pull first, maybe I'm not current Mar 01 13:32:26 contacts.edc Mar 01 13:32:31 unless you mismerged it :) Mar 01 13:33:39 hehe nice small image 38M Mar 1 14:05 shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100301-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz Mar 01 13:35:09 only thing missing is python and python dependent stuff like frameworkd,shr-settings,opim-utils,shr-wizard,pyphonelog Mar 01 13:35:12 heh, too nice to be true :P Mar 01 13:35:25 but to save 10MB is always nice Mar 01 13:35:28 who needs that anyway ;) Mar 01 13:35:42 * JaMa don't :) Mar 01 13:36:47 sicu: grub just starts stock windows BL Mar 01 13:38:52 TAsn: for me the buttons are under the illume2 ones (Back/Close) Mar 01 13:38:56 and the top is truncated Mar 01 13:39:22 yes Mar 01 13:39:26 which just means one thing Mar 01 13:39:36 it expands over the allocated size Mar 01 13:39:48 (aligned to the middle, so it expands both ways) Mar 01 13:42:35 the window itself? Mar 01 13:42:49 that's what it looks like Mar 01 13:46:15 no Mar 01 13:46:18 the layout Mar 01 13:46:29 that holds the pager Mar 01 13:46:31 expands too much Mar 01 13:49:08 TAsn: but the layout should be relative to the window, no? Mar 01 13:49:24 the main layout Mar 01 13:49:34 but inside it I swallow a pager Mar 01 13:49:46 and inside that another layout Mar 01 13:50:33 JaMa: fso-gpsd has not been written by us, the author is somewhat missing in action; i do not have any plans for it. fso-gpsd translates gypsy into gpsd protocol. fsotdld will not use gypsy protocol, so fso-gpsd won't work anyways w/ fso2 Mar 01 13:51:09 TAsn: think you're just missing an elm_win_resize_object_add(win, layout) Mar 01 13:51:23 maybe (probably0 Mar 01 13:51:31 will take a look actually Mar 01 13:51:38 I think you are probably right. Mar 01 13:51:44 think so too ;)( Mar 01 13:52:21 TAsn: i wonder whether it might make sense to automigrate the database when you start the new opimd. i would not want to rely on the postinstall scripts Mar 01 13:53:38 mickey|office, I think we should just let the user do it manually Mar 01 13:54:01 hmm, why? Mar 01 13:54:13 because it may take A LOT of time Mar 01 13:54:20 that leads to an update with guaranteed manual intervention Mar 01 13:54:42 it will include manual intervention anyway Mar 01 13:54:54 because they'll have to import sim contacts Mar 01 13:55:17 I can just not import the call history Mar 01 13:55:24 that'll take almost no time at all Mar 01 13:55:29 mickey|office: so fsotdld will provide NMEA? and if we need gpsd protocol provided by fso-gpsd (ie for using gpsd from FR on other device over wifi connection) then someone need to implement NMEA->GPSD right? Mar 01 13:56:05 JaMa: I'm afraid fsotdld will not provide NMEA, that would not make sense, fsotdld is about giving a high level location protocol Mar 01 13:56:14 we will have to have something like fsotdld->gpsd, yes Mar 01 13:56:26 TAsn: I can see now what I did wrong with using pager and layout, thanks :) Mar 01 13:56:28 how does fsotdld relate to geoclue? Mar 01 13:56:29 fsotdld will basically incorporate all location providers Mar 01 13:56:41 mrmoku, *you*? Mar 01 13:56:47 for message new view Mar 01 13:56:50 :) Mar 01 13:56:53 pabs3: it looks like there will be an overlap Mar 01 13:56:56 oh :) Mar 01 13:57:03 you probably need "promote" Mar 01 13:57:06 as well Mar 01 13:57:08 I did not add the layout itself is content... but the box instead Mar 01 13:57:10 yeah Mar 01 13:57:16 s/is/as Mar 01 13:57:20 mickey|office: ah so "UBX NEMA" is name of protocol we get from our chip? Mar 01 13:57:26 okie Mar 01 13:57:34 JaMa: UBX5 or NMEA, yes Mar 01 13:57:38 or UBX4 Mar 01 13:57:41 dunno offhand Mar 01 13:58:07 mickey|office: ok thanks Mar 01 13:58:31 sascha wessel (author of fso-gpsd) once put up a nice RFC of a location provider protocol Mar 01 13:58:36 i'm leaning towards using that Mar 01 13:58:43 or make it compatible with geoclue Mar 01 13:59:01 but last time we made a protocol compatible with something, that something was more or less abandonded ;) Mar 01 14:00:09 the choice to support gypsy made sense at the time Mar 01 14:00:14 but the outcome was a horrible protocol Mar 01 14:00:21 very undbuslike Mar 01 14:00:30 this time i want to make it better Mar 01 14:00:52 mickey|office: gpsd protocol changed btw Mar 01 14:01:10 mickey|office: support for old protocol will be dropped this year Mar 01 14:01:28 meanwhile it will support both (and autodetect) Mar 01 14:02:11 the one-letter commands are finally gone for good :) Mar 01 14:03:09 awesome :) Mar 01 14:03:20 ya, we definitely want a gspd protocol plugin for tdld Mar 01 14:03:34 I'm just reading what mqy (author of omgps said), because he had parsers for all 3 protocols, so maybe it would be easy to convert with help of his code http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-June/050403.html Mar 01 15:16:30 JaMa: mrmoku: TAsn: opkg segfaults with latest image Mar 01 15:16:58 alexxy: with alignment error in dmesg, right? Mar 01 15:17:02 alexxy: for me too :/ Mar 01 15:18:05 yep Mar 01 15:18:30 [ 2512.735000] Alignment trap: opkg (1718) PC=0x40035378 Instr=0x59ce Address=0x7a20572d FSR 0x003 Mar 01 15:18:30 [ 2545.175000] Alignment trap: opkg (1720) PC=0x40035378 Instr=0x59ce Address=0xa6942807 FSR 0x003 Mar 01 15:20:08 also i get kernel kernel panic on ubifs image Mar 01 15:22:52 which kernel version? Mar 01 15:28:22 29_rc3 Mar 01 16:22:45 gsm is registering nicely in latest lite image (0301), no need for loglevel change =] Mar 01 16:25:37 but seems i'm also affected by segfault on opkg install now Mar 01 16:27:13 sicu, installed the image or upgraded to it? Mar 01 16:28:47 flashed Mar 01 16:30:01 mrmoku, I'm not missing resize_add Mar 01 16:30:08 :( Mar 01 16:32:51 sicu, can you do me a quick favor? Mar 01 16:33:19 sure thing Mar 01 16:33:46 opkg install illume-keyboard-hebrew Mar 01 16:33:50 (or something like that) Mar 01 16:33:58 killall -HUP enlightenment Mar 01 16:34:12 and open the messages app -> new -> and try to write a message in hebrew Mar 01 16:34:16 see if you get any response Mar 01 16:34:20 :P Mar 01 16:34:28 Cause I don't. (And I want to reflash because of it) Mar 01 16:35:21 Hey, I've got two questions. If I port a GTK+ app that still uses moko-finger-scroll from Om 2007.2, what should I replace it with? Normal GTK scroller? Or should I fork those widgets? Mar 01 16:36:04 thrashold, you can either use those widgets (they don't work that well anymore though) Mar 01 16:36:14 but yeah, gtk scroller is practically the same Mar 01 16:37:06 TAsn: kinda hard when opkg segfault, or? and there's no hebrew in feed Mar 01 16:37:58 What about moko-hint-entry? I would suppose this would still work fine? Mar 01 16:39:05 And the other question is, if I was to write some new app, what should I aim for? :) Mar 01 16:39:27 sicu, hm.. what keyboards you got installed? Mar 01 16:39:36 btw: $ opkg list | grep illume-keyboard-hebrew Mar 01 16:39:37 illume-keyboard-hebrew - 1:0.0+gitr11+89e689967d8a9e29d5a3bf84bfa32214f438a323-r0.4 Mar 01 16:40:27 TAsn: few parts of -feed are still building.. Mar 01 16:40:38 i c Mar 01 16:40:40 NOTE: Running task 2645 of 14024 Mar 01 16:40:42 sicu, hm.. what keyboards you got installed? Mar 01 16:40:50 JaMa, what about this opkg seg? Mar 01 16:40:52 TAsn: and I dropped all older versions before rsync Mar 01 16:41:14 TAsn: no idea yet.. :/ Mar 01 16:41:23 :( Mar 01 16:41:32 TAsn: whole buildhost is crappy today (lots of segfaults there too) Mar 01 16:41:49 so maybe it was terribly bad built Mar 01 16:42:17 but our eglibc/gcc combo works ok in my builds of opkg.. so rebuild itself shouldn't make it segfault Mar 01 16:44:13 gnome.org seems to be down :( Mar 01 16:45:54 TAsn: weird, only illume-keyboard-default-alpha/numeric/terminal here Mar 01 16:46:00 and those are the ones installed Mar 01 16:46:09 cool, plesae pop numeric Mar 01 16:46:16 (feed is building according to jama) Mar 01 16:46:45 and try to enter the lower left char Mar 01 16:46:52 the a with the dots on top of it :P Mar 01 16:47:02 does it work? Mar 01 16:47:19 nope, no iffy chars allowed ;p Mar 01 16:48:07 they are all displayed in the word list though, just can't add them to the textfield Mar 01 17:01:30 fscking python today "*** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/python: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x0000000009a14380 ***" Mar 01 17:02:24 qt esperts, i'm making a qt app for the FR, i need to make a list "finger scrollable" and may be with 2 alternated color for the items, which class can i use to get this? Mar 01 17:02:28 ohhhh, compilation stopped today in pulseaudio.... fuck Mar 01 17:02:38 something like the andorid message screen Mar 01 17:03:08 why do i need to compile pulseaudio? (me wants gentoo-type USE flags) Mar 01 17:29:17 sicu, thanks. Mar 01 17:29:24 JaMa, look what sicu wrote, utf8 doesn't work. Mar 01 18:15:31 JaMa, I'm having problems with opkg too Mar 01 18:22:17 [ 9.045000] Alignment trap: opkg (858) PC=0x40035378 Instr=0x59ce Address=0xd186bbe9 FSR 0x003 Mar 01 18:54:07 JaMa: mrmoku|away :TAsn : seems latest image b0rked =) it cannot start xserver ; so i cannot reste root passwd =) Mar 01 18:58:37 who want's to binary patch his libopkg? :) Mar 01 18:59:00 alexxy: why do you need X to reset password? Mar 01 18:59:27 here is what you need: http://pastebin.ca/1817639 Mar 01 18:59:34 put uSD into reader, reset password Mar 01 18:59:45 still checking what went wrong with opkg on buildhost.. Mar 01 18:59:47 or: get uSD with working system, reset password of system in NAND Mar 01 18:59:59 alexxy: empty pass is enabled again.. Mar 01 19:00:06 alexxy: and set by default Mar 01 19:00:18 hello! Mar 01 19:00:26 on latest upgrade (16:xx) opkg goes segv Mar 01 19:00:31 while downloading first package Mar 01 19:00:46 daniele_athome: real last few lines please Mar 01 19:01:01 JaMa, you mean of opkg output? Mar 01 19:01:02 s/real/read/ Mar 01 19:01:02 JaMa meant: daniele_athome: read last few lines please Mar 01 19:01:05 ah Mar 01 19:01:40 daniele_athome, alexxy: whole shr buildhost is creepy today.. so I cannot say what else could go wrong :/ Mar 01 19:01:45 ok Mar 01 19:01:55 if you need help with testing i'm here Mar 01 19:01:56 :) Mar 01 19:02:10 daniele_athome: do you want that libopkg for download? Mar 01 19:02:28 daniele_athome: as it's easier to upgrade with working libopkg :) Mar 01 19:02:44 JaMa explain better Mar 01 19:02:57 daniele_athome: the problem is with libopkg from last build Mar 01 19:03:29 daniele_athome: so to fix it you need to download right libopkg and then opkg install -force-reinstall opkg as soon as it's fixed properly Mar 01 19:03:46 ok Mar 01 19:03:57 I'll try to just rebuild opkg on buildhost when it finishes feed build Mar 01 19:06:59 JaMa: can you rebuild lite image? Mar 01 19:13:03 alexxy: why? opkg fix is not there yet Mar 01 19:13:13 alexxy: and -feed is still building Mar 01 19:13:37 alexxy: then I'll try to rebuild opkg in case it was just really random anomaly Mar 01 19:13:51 JaMa: ok Mar 01 19:13:52 =) Mar 01 19:13:59 ping me when you'll finish Mar 01 19:14:30 alexxy: with shr buildhost speed about tomorrow morning :/ Mar 01 19:14:38 omg Mar 01 19:14:43 what hw is it? Mar 01 19:14:45 alexxy: but you can use libopkg from here http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/ Mar 01 19:15:13 JaMa: full image is unusable after reflash Mar 01 19:15:13 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+, 2G ram Mar 01 19:15:18 it cannot start X Mar 01 19:15:28 alexxy: can you ssh in and check why? Mar 01 19:15:35 lite image has segfaulted opkg Mar 01 19:15:43 i cannot ssh in Mar 01 19:15:50 because i annot reset password Mar 01 19:15:56 after first boot Mar 01 19:16:01 why do you need reset password? Mar 01 19:16:10 latest image should have empty password Mar 01 19:16:10 because it has openssh Mar 01 19:16:26 and it doesnt permit empty passwords login Mar 01 19:16:32 20:00:21 < JaMa> alexxy: empty pass is enabled again.. Mar 01 19:16:38 ahh Mar 01 19:16:41 ok then Mar 01 19:17:40 alexxy: and there is also possible downtime for buildhost soon due to memtest/fsck ... Mar 01 19:29:31 <[Rui]> CRINGE! no state files for sound! Mar 01 19:30:26 <[Rui]> /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default is empty! Mar 01 19:37:41 [Rui]: /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-default/ Mar 01 19:37:56 not sure if fsodeviced finds it there Mar 01 19:37:58 <[Rui]> JaMa: it changed? Mar 01 19:38:10 <[Rui]> today I made a call and nobody could hear a thing Mar 01 19:38:21 <[Rui]> so I looked into the old path and cringed Mar 01 19:38:44 <[Rui]> with all this talk about borked upgrades I feared for the state of the phone (even though it booted and things seemed to be fine, overall). Mar 01 19:39:29 there were 4 recipes with state files installed Mar 01 19:39:47 <[Rui]> ok, this is why. the change I have to make so people can hear me (other than changing the mic). Mar 01 19:39:59 with last cleanup I let only fsodeviced as provider as mickey advised (and temporary shr-scenarii for ffalarms) Mar 01 19:40:30 <[Rui]> the one change DocScrutinizer really hates about me talking about it :) Mar 01 19:40:30 alexxy: my -lite image starts xserver ok Mar 01 19:40:42 alexxy: do you mean that only -full fails to start it? Mar 01 19:41:45 TAsn: please kill bottom panel in illume2 config Mar 01 19:42:06 TAsn: please, please, please :) Mar 01 19:42:11 TAsn: yeah, please please :) Mar 01 19:42:23 6 pleases for TAsn ! Mar 01 19:42:24 hehe Mar 01 19:44:30 TAsn: you'll get messages in exchange :) Mar 01 19:44:45 <[Rui]> hms... can I safely change to illume2 and back? Mar 01 19:45:05 [Rui]: if you don't mind removing .e then yes Mar 01 19:45:23 <[Rui]> ok, it's just a matter of backing it up.... Mar 01 19:45:29 [Rui]: or you can "mv .e .e-illume1" and back with xserver down Mar 01 19:45:51 [Rui]: but I was able to switch back and forth from e17 settings Mar 01 19:45:54 <[Rui]> trying out Mar 01 19:46:04 not sure how safe it's from settings menu Mar 01 19:47:13 <[Rui]> not a fan of it right now... Mar 01 19:48:39 Weiss: suspend/resume with your latest patches without any problem! thanks a lot and I salute you :) I hope to meet you somewhere to buy you a beer or real cookies if you prefer cookies :) Mar 01 19:48:54 yay :D Mar 01 19:49:05 with KMS? Mar 01 19:49:26 <[Rui]> I like the drop down toolbar better Mar 01 19:49:39 SHR root@gojama ~ $ apmd Mar 01 19:49:39 No APM support in kernel Mar 01 19:49:42 hmm Mar 01 19:49:42 <[Rui]> and now I don't seem to be able to get to my running vala-terminal Mar 01 19:49:47 Weiss: yes with KMS Mar 01 19:50:04 Weiss: but suspended from cmd line, because apmd is not running :/ Mar 01 19:50:20 <[Rui]> ot, it got closed after all Mar 01 19:50:35 cool.. wondering if my changes are compatible with non-KMS not.. Mar 01 19:50:44 it's not very elegant code Mar 01 19:50:45 <[Rui]> but expanding toolbar is better times infinity :) Mar 01 19:50:54 <[Rui]> it was a really good design Mar 01 19:51:20 Weiss: do you read community@lists.openmoko.org ? Mar 01 19:51:32 yep Mar 01 19:51:47 of course :) Mar 01 19:51:54 Weiss: Radek Polak tried drm kernel with non-drm userspace of QtMoko v18 Mar 01 19:52:45 Weiss: I hope I explained it right.. from what we talked about kernel/userspace requirements before Mar 01 19:52:57 ah, ok Mar 01 19:53:16 apm -s works good too Mar 01 19:54:07 and suspend/resume seems faster than I remember :) Mar 01 19:54:13 JaMa: X doesnt start because of drivers errors Mar 01 19:54:19 like glamo and so on Mar 01 19:54:29 <[Rui]> Is this the nodebug kernel? because things seem generally faster (like typing, for instance): Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Fri Feb 5 18:47:47 CET 2010 armv4tl GNU/Linux Mar 01 19:54:39 not sure if missing udev makes much difference for resume too Mar 01 19:54:47 yep, that explanation is fine.. the distinction KMS/non-KMS is more just whether to use an fbdev-style driver or a completely different KMS one (tells the kernel what to do with the display via ioctls).. swrast/DRI is (mostly) a Mesa thing Mar 01 19:54:55 [Rui]: no it's not changed kernel Mar 01 19:55:07 <[Rui]> oh... Mar 01 19:55:15 [Rui]: but e-wm now draws just once instead twice (for sure) Mar 01 19:55:20 blank/unblank is a little slower than using the native sleep states.. maybe that can be improved Mar 01 19:55:48 <[Rui]> JaMa: it's a huge speed boost! Mar 01 19:55:49 alexxy: ahh, then I know why it that :/ Mar 01 19:55:57 [Rui]: sure it is Mar 01 19:56:21 <[Rui]> btw, is the log_level = DEBUG workaround still needed to get the pin and framework to work properly? Mar 01 19:56:27 alexxy: you can try opkg install -force-reinstall libdrm mesa-dri Mar 01 19:56:49 [Rui]: I've seen few reports that no.. but haven't tried myself yet Mar 01 19:57:14 opkg segfaults Mar 01 19:57:16 <[Rui]> I'll try. putting back to INFO and rebooting. Mar 01 19:57:37 alexxy: with that downloaded libopkg? Mar 01 19:57:46 JaMa: btw when will be migration to modern kernels? Mar 01 19:57:58 no i just flashed fresh full image Mar 01 19:58:04 alexxy: I hope really soon Mar 01 19:58:22 alexxy: replace libopkg from http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/ Mar 01 20:00:52 JaMa: same problem with X Mar 01 20:01:04 <[Rui]> pin was asked yay! Mar 01 20:01:18 alexxy: from where was mesa-dri and libdrm downloaded? Mar 01 20:01:26 alexxy: om-gta02 folder? Mar 01 20:01:37 http://dpaste.com/166574/ Mar 01 20:02:04 no Mar 01 20:02:08 from armv4t Mar 01 20:02:25 for libdrm Mar 01 20:02:34 and for om-gta02 for mesa-dri Mar 01 20:04:37 * Weiss :S : Mar 01 20:04:37 root@om-gta02 ~ $ which enlightenment_start.oe Mar 01 20:04:37 /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe Mar 01 20:04:37 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ls /usr/bin/enlightenment_start Mar 01 20:04:37 nf_conntrack_pptp.ko xt_limit.ko Mar 01 20:04:42 ...wtf? Mar 01 20:05:11 Weiss: it's directory? or what? Mar 01 20:05:14 yep Mar 01 20:06:10 Weiss: hmm not here in today's -lite image Mar 01 20:06:49 shr@opmbuild:~/shr-unstable$ dmesg | grep python | wc -l Mar 01 20:06:49 88 Mar 01 20:06:57 everything can go wrong today :/ Mar 01 20:07:32 all segfaults or general protection faults Mar 01 20:07:35 nobody seems to have even mentioned what alignment trap means Mar 01 20:08:47 lindi-: have you seen that disasm diff? any idea what could cause that? Mar 01 20:09:23 JaMa: i did not see any bug reports Mar 01 20:09:34 lindi-: I have to say that eglibc/gcc/binutils combo should be the same in both builds Mar 01 20:09:41 lindi-: http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-devel@lists.shr-project.org/msg02033.html Mar 01 20:10:14 lupan: hi, nice to see you :) Mar 01 20:10:29 lupan: http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-devel@lists.shr-project.org/msg02032.html Mar 01 20:10:29 JaMa: nice to see you too Mar 01 20:10:30 JaMa: those sections do not contain instructions Mar 01 20:10:40 JaMa: thus disassembly is not very good idea to make any sense of it Mar 01 20:12:55 alexxy: you can try opkg udpate; and reinstall libdrm again Mar 01 20:15:14 mrmoku, JaMa alexxy: It's a lot of work, but I already decided I'll do it :P Mar 01 20:15:21 mrmoku, from you I want messages Mar 01 20:15:52 ahh good nothing for me Mar 01 20:15:52 JaMa, from you I want image with locale :( Mar 01 20:15:57 JaMa, ^ Mar 01 20:15:57 :) Mar 01 20:16:01 damn! Mar 01 20:17:36 TAsn: what's the test case? do I need to download that hebrew keyboard? Mar 01 20:17:43 nah Mar 01 20:17:46 just numbers keyboard Mar 01 20:17:50 try an accented char Mar 01 20:18:32 mrmoku, lfg frees hash tables I pass to it? or do I need to free them myself? Mar 01 20:18:52 I think we should probably make it a rule that we free it ourselves Mar 01 20:18:56 or something like that :P Mar 01 20:19:28 JaMa: I see next(ref G next) in current eina.vapi, no get_next, dont know where you took it from? (http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libeflvala.git;a=blob;f=vapi/eina.vapi;h=fdbd5f000817902d29bb7569e7f0ff0f665dac8f;hb=294f250f5c20a058f5016aaf674c57d0498070fd#l171) Mar 01 20:20:12 TAsn: mmt installing gpe-scap for proof Mar 01 20:20:36 lupan: efl-vala was moved to enlightenment svn Mar 01 20:20:49 lupan: so this repo is already a bit outdated Mar 01 20:20:56 JaMa, try with hebrew keyboard then, just to make sure :) Mar 01 20:22:02 TAsn: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/138a3169de415ffb2ca8024f37f8c37c.png Mar 01 20:23:01 JaMa, ^ noob Mar 01 20:23:05 gtk app work here Mar 01 20:23:06 as well Mar 01 20:23:13 try messages app Mar 01 20:24:04 hmm nothing shown in edit box Mar 01 20:24:31 :) Mar 01 20:24:57 lupan: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/46493 Mar 01 20:25:14 TAsn: you didn't say that it doesn't work only in non-gtk apps :P Mar 01 20:25:52 :) Mar 01 20:28:54 hrrrmfp Mar 01 20:29:02 TAsn: maybe its also side-effect from removing all translations from e-wm.. Mar 01 20:29:08 i'm a little annoyed that bitbake doesn't use my two cores here Mar 01 20:29:33 watching xosview, it looks like each of the cores is used half, at maximum... Mar 01 20:29:37 TAsn: seen that in e svn repo with explanation it's because of release Mar 01 20:29:47 Wonka: than you should configure bitbake better Mar 01 20:29:49 TAsn: have to free them yourselv Mar 01 20:29:52 s/v/f Mar 01 20:30:07 cool :) Mar 01 20:30:17 TAsn: so I don't have Czech in language selection in e-wm wizard.. Mar 01 20:30:43 TAsn: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 Mar 01 20:30:57 TAsn: so I guess that UTF-8 is installed here Mar 01 20:32:36 * Weiss likes the new boot screen without mock kernel messages Mar 01 20:38:17 JaMa: aargh, I am too stupid sometimes ;) googling for "bitbake use multiple cores" even finds http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR Mar 01 20:40:02 TAsn: cannot find efl build old enough to have those locale packages :/ to test it :( Mar 01 20:40:47 :| Mar 01 20:41:23 TAsn: was it you who was getting excited about four steps of animation on the lock screen slider? Mar 01 20:41:55 four steps of animation? Mar 01 20:41:59 what are you talking about? Mar 01 20:42:03 i.e. four frames when sliding Mar 01 20:42:14 (an increase from one) Mar 01 20:43:06 whoever it was is going to love 2.6.32+Illume2+DRM Mar 01 20:43:24 :) Mar 01 20:48:46 who's working on Illume2 theming? I have a few comments.. Mar 01 20:51:14 oo.. lots of Hamburger OM types coming out of the woodwork.. Mar 01 20:51:23 enough for an SHR launch party :) Mar 01 20:51:43 Weiss, I am, jinda Mar 01 20:51:45 kinda* Mar 01 20:51:56 TAsn: which package provides shr-today? Mar 01 20:52:10 is it shr-today? :)) Mar 01 20:52:28 no idea Mar 01 20:52:30 never used that :) Mar 01 20:52:47 * JaMa want's to check slider :) Mar 01 20:55:02 * JaMa is so happy about suspend/resume that he suspends his FR even while powered from usb cable :) Mar 01 20:55:30 :o Mar 01 20:55:52 TAsn: did elm_win_object_resize_add fix the sizing for you? Mar 01 20:55:57 * Weiss hasn't yet subjected the weekend's work to the "go out for a walk relying on the FR for guidance" test yet.. Mar 01 20:56:28 mrmoku, no Mar 01 20:56:34 elm_win_object_resize_add Mar 01 20:56:39 heh... because I have the same problem now :/ Mar 01 20:56:39 resizes to the size of the window Mar 01 20:56:41 :) Mar 01 20:56:42 hah Mar 01 20:56:43 a Mar 01 20:56:51 TAsn: ahh shr-today is now provider by phoneuid itself.. how to trigger screen lock manually? Mar 01 20:57:04 oh, that's shr-today?! Mar 01 20:57:04 :) Mar 01 20:57:07 TAsn: AUX doesn't work and lock button in quick-settings too Mar 01 20:57:17 mdbus2 Mar 01 20:57:21 JaMa: mdbus2 org.shr.phoneui /org/shr/phoneui/IdleScreen org.shr.phoneui.IdleScreen.Display Mar 01 20:58:32 mrmoku: is it possible that phoneuid doesn't run without phonefsod and that as I know doesn't run without frameworkd? Mar 01 20:58:53 JaMa: no, should run fine without Mar 01 21:04:44 mrmoku: now it works of (after fixing fsodeviced config here) Mar 01 21:05:28 * JaMa off for today Mar 01 21:05:39 NOTE: Running task 9759 of 14024 Mar 01 21:06:39 hi all Mar 01 21:08:00 can anyone help me with bitbake (not shr bu simply oe), i try to make "bitbake busybox" and it tells me 'ERROR: IO Error: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted' without parsing anything, using bitbake 1.8 any idea? Mar 01 21:09:25 m0nt0: 2.6.33 on your buildhost? Mar 01 21:09:31 yep Mar 01 21:09:40 m0nt0: sanity check for mmap Mar 01 21:09:52 m0nt0: you need newer oe.dev Mar 01 21:10:07 so 1.9 bitbake? Mar 01 21:11:09 m0nt0: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=1b426b8382d2a7864b63051b0707e577f2c0ce69 Mar 01 21:11:17 m0nt0: no but this patch ^ Mar 01 21:12:17 well i got bitbake from git but this isn't included right? Mar 01 21:12:33 m0nt0: it's not about bitbake Mar 01 21:12:44 uh sorry Mar 01 21:13:01 m0nt0: which OE branch are you trying to use? Mar 01 21:13:04 didn't noticed the git branch Mar 01 21:13:40 m0nt0: because AFAIK oe.dev/shr-unstable/stable2009 has it included Mar 01 21:13:48 a "personalized" version of the official one Mar 01 21:13:57 yeah but it's not about shr Mar 01 21:14:13 thanks a lot for pointing to the problem! Mar 01 21:14:28 then you just need to merge newer origin/org.openembedded.dev or cherry-pick this commit Mar 01 21:14:40 yes, right Mar 01 21:26:35 shr-today: why date show in so strange form? Mar 01 21:26:42 "1.3.2010" Mar 01 21:27:06 is it some EU standard? Mar 01 21:27:14 max_posedon: what's strange about that? ;) Mar 01 21:27:17 I expect 01.03.2010 Mar 01 21:27:42 even 01 March 2010 Mar 01 21:27:50 max_posedon: can't you drop 0's in your language? Mar 01 21:28:05 in dates - don't Mar 01 21:28:14 at least I never seen this Mar 01 21:29:40 max_posedon: in german it's usual to do that, don't know about other countries Mar 01 21:30:04 so, its EU locale stuff Mar 01 21:31:25 but i would expect, that the date is localized by the local, because such a format is quite unusal for the us or uk Mar 01 21:32:38 TAsn: the date in shr-today, isn't it localized? Mar 01 21:33:30 probably not Mar 01 21:33:37 let me check Mar 01 21:33:57 Heinervdm, I think not Mar 01 21:34:49 i think it should be. There are people out there that expect MM DD YYYY Mar 01 21:35:16 and such people will be very confused by DD MM YYYY Mar 01 21:35:33 snprintf(date_buf, 11, "%i.%i.%i", day, month, year); Mar 01 21:35:38 inside idle.edc :/ Mar 01 21:38:51 mrmoku: what git blame says about that? Mar 01 21:39:15 mrmoku: who's the guy that never heard about strftime? ;) Mar 01 21:39:15 PaulFertser: well... it will say slyon :P Mar 01 21:39:33 PaulFertser: inside edc? Mar 01 21:39:33 strftime(date_buf, 11, "%x", timeptr) Mar 01 21:39:46 mrmoku: oh, it's an edc theme, i see. Mar 01 21:39:58 thing is... date and time are done in edc only :/ Mar 01 21:40:39 mrmoku: yeah, i remember how much of a hassle to show time in e.g. 24h format instead of 12. Or add seconds to display... Mar 01 21:41:10 bye all and thanks a lot JaMa ! Mar 01 21:41:32 mrmoku: can't you use Lua nowadays in edc files? I guess the standard system library that comes with it will solve at least part of the problem. Mar 01 21:42:09 or move that to .c Mar 01 21:43:08 mrmoku: theme should be flexible, moving that to .c is against this idea. Mar 01 21:44:16 PaulFertser: flexible regarding design and layout... but content? Mar 01 21:45:09 freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07opimd-redesign * ra29bc27c126e 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/TODO: Updated TODO Mar 01 21:46:28 mrmoku: that too. Someone might want all-fancy analogue clock, or calendar, someone modern digital one etc etc. Mar 01 21:47:00 hmm... analogue clock is a good argument Mar 01 21:47:04 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * r8c31ba4dc837 10/src/view/ (contact-list-common.c contact-view.c): Fixed bugs in contact-view and in index handling Mar 01 21:47:15 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * ra8cbab96c110 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Changed the way we handle field changes Mar 01 21:48:32 TAsn: hmm... interesting Mar 01 21:48:46 JaMa: pushed s/next/get_next/ change into ffalarms git: 96ac9f1 Mar 01 21:48:50 if I have a not correctly sized window and manually popup the keyboard Mar 01 21:48:54 it sizes correctly Mar 01 21:50:03 I guess we have to force size layout Mar 01 21:50:11 (elm_layout_sizing something...) Mar 01 21:54:06 elm_layout_sizing_eval Mar 01 21:56:18 yeah Mar 01 21:56:23 * mrmoku tries Mar 01 21:56:24 try that, tell me if that works :P Mar 01 21:56:32 already building :P Mar 01 21:57:14 cool, contacts screen rocks :) Mar 01 21:57:19 did a lot of work on it Mar 01 21:57:22 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * rde471659e927 10/src/view/contact-view.c: Fixed a bug in file selection Mar 01 21:58:13 phew Mar 01 21:58:20 btw, I don't know why or when Mar 01 21:58:24 but phoneuid sometimes segs Mar 01 21:58:25 |: Mar 01 21:59:00 hi, opkg upgrade and install also segs with the newest build....is this known Mar 01 21:59:09 yep ;( Mar 01 21:59:41 could you tell me what build works? Mar 01 22:00:28 I wish I knew :( Mar 01 22:00:58 Hakisho: read shr-user or shr-devel ML about that Mar 01 22:03:56 okay Mar 01 22:05:59 JaMa, no one really listened to me in #oe when I asked about locale :( Mar 01 22:06:11 And I don't think it's a locale issue Mar 01 22:06:20 but rather an e issue Mar 01 22:06:24 they changed something in this handling Mar 01 22:06:49 I talked to raster about it for a bit Mar 01 22:10:16 TAsn: yes I also think its e issue after they removed all locales/translations before release.. Mar 01 22:11:49 TAsn: elm_layout_sizing_eval does not help :/ Mar 01 22:12:43 JaMa, not that Mar 01 22:12:49 they moved something from ecore to eina Mar 01 22:12:56 that is related to exactly this Mar 01 22:13:43 thanks JaMa, opkg is working with your fix now Mar 01 22:16:44 TAsn: ok, I'll try svn HEAD tomorrow.. Mar 01 22:18:03 dunno if they fixed it Mar 01 22:18:08 I just know they may have broken it Mar 01 22:18:23 better yet, try an older rev Mar 01 22:18:26 ;) Mar 01 22:18:35 check something about eina and ecore Mar 01 22:30:55 TAsn: ok, I give up for today :/ Mar 01 22:31:01 hehe :P Mar 01 22:31:04 If you find some solution - let me know ;) Mar 01 22:31:39 gnight all :) Mar 01 23:01:52 mrmoku|away, about time formatting, take a loook during the day in #e, they are having the same trouble now, rewritting the tclock module Mar 01 23:09:00 JaMa, opkg works with your libopkg Mar 01 23:16:19 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * rd17240f933a8 10/src/view/ (contact-list-common.c contact-view.c): Removed peksy debug messages Mar 01 23:21:29 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * r443831d27052 10/src/ (util/ui-utils.c view/contact-view.c): Fixed allocation issues Mar 01 23:30:48 phonefsod still does this: write(0, "2010.03.01 23:29:17.182755 [phonefsod]\tMESSAGE: error: (0) Launch helper exited with unknown return code 0\n", 109) = 109 Mar 01 23:52:48 hmm. Mar 01 23:52:49 2010-03-01T23:41:36.516017Z [INFO] fsousaged : fsousaged starting up... Mar 01 23:52:52 2010-03-01T23:41:36.526004Z [WARN] subsystem : No section for fsousage in configuration file. Not looking for plugins. Mar 01 23:52:56 2010-03-01T23:41:36.535185Z [INFO] fsousaged : loaded 0 plugins Mar 01 23:52:58 2010-03-01T23:41:36.542262Z [INFO] fsousaged : fsousaged exit Mar 01 23:53:47 with a quite new and untouched frameworkd.conf from frameworkd-config-shr Mar 02 00:17:49 Wonka: /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/fsousaged.conf **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 02 02:59:58 2010