**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 03 02:59:58 2010 Mar 03 06:18:09 TAsn: hmm... btw. I think that is an opimd bug... how can a sent message be unread? :P Mar 03 06:22:06 TAsn: ahh, ok nvm :P Mar 03 06:26:47 Weiss: yes, even with --enable-kms it's not working Mar 03 06:27:21 Weiss: does there happen to be a bug tracker that would be suitable for this bugs? just wondering if I could report the EXA crash bug somewhere more proplerly than on IRC Mar 03 06:31:05 mrmoku, ^ noob :) Mar 03 06:31:12 (you, no Mirv) Mar 03 06:31:13 :) Mar 03 06:31:15 j/k. Mar 03 06:31:18 Awesome work though Mar 03 06:31:59 TAsn: well, yours too :) Mar 03 06:32:21 save/cancel: lol, I'm an idiot :) Mar 03 06:33:20 fixed :) Mar 03 06:33:34 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * rc51b9dfbab05 10/data/contacts.edc: Fixed save/cancel buttons wrong position Mar 03 07:27:32 moin Mar 03 07:27:53 is shr using packagekit with opkg backend? Mar 03 07:28:20 imho everthing is broken after revision 482 of opkg Mar 03 07:28:53 playyaWorking: dos1 is using it for the shr-installer... we don't actually really use it though Mar 03 07:29:20 yes. and he is the maintainer of the opkg backend Mar 03 07:31:01 btw. could everyone see my comment on this commit: http://code.google.com/p/opkg/source/diff?spec=svn482&r=482&format=side&path=/trunk/libopkg/opkg.c Mar 03 07:38:10 playyaWorking: AFAIK dos even sent newer packagekit version patch, but then said to forget it as it was incompatibile with latest opkg.. and that was about 1/2y ago Mar 03 07:39:33 TAsn: building svnrev46817 for test Mar 03 07:39:52 JaMa, yes. but imho r482 broke everything in opkg, because it prints errors instead of propagating an error Mar 03 08:09:20 Good day all , Anyway to make PC a BT headset ? except :nohands.sf.net Mar 03 08:18:43 I guess it's a little heavy to wear like a headset. Also less ergonomic :-P Mar 03 08:19:14 but might make for a really geeky look Mar 03 08:21:22 but with laptop you can use it as small roof on your head in rain (is there some model with left speaker on top of lcd and right near keyboard?) :) Mar 03 08:21:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jHkQpu1FiY Mar 03 08:24:03 JaMa: nah, LCD front (head up display) - speakers are left and right automatically ;-D Mar 03 08:24:40 I bet with xrandr you can rotate the screen 180° Mar 03 08:26:24 even fits for video calls, with usual webcam above LCD Mar 03 08:27:16 I can think of use cases... Mar 03 08:27:57 like when you have a voip client and a pc headset on your notebook and want to use that for your cell phone too. Mar 03 08:28:09 use a panasonic toughbook and you save the helmet for motorbike rides as well Mar 03 08:31:12 Wonka: *I* am the last one to deny any usecase, however bizarre. You should know me better. The main question is: is there a A2DP or SCO client profile for bluez Mar 03 08:33:02 I don't know. I would like it. Mar 03 08:35:35 interesting thing is: for ALSA you'd need some sort of loopback device, to plumb one card to another card Mar 03 08:37:20 well something like audacity with monitor enabled should do, I guess Mar 03 08:54:41 TAsn: svnrev46817 from my feeds starts ok, but cannot test if it writes utf8 properly.. Mar 03 08:57:11 btw, my backscroll scanning shows a comment about a 10sec skew off for every suspend/resume cycle. I am quite sure I investigated that down to gory detail some time ago, with some user of this chan. I really thought it's fixed by now :-( Mar 03 08:59:39 for anybody living under a stone and thus not heard the news: Use hwclock -systohc after *every* setting of systemtime from a trustworthy source! NEVER use hwclock -systohc on suspend or shutdown! Always restore sysclock on resume from RTC, like hwclock --hctosys Mar 03 09:03:14 and first of all: stay clear of hwclock --adjust by all means, unless you're damn sure you know what you're doing and about all your system meeting above stated requirements (plus a few more beyond that) Mar 03 09:03:22 .oO( if someone would put this on the wiki, one could point people at it... ) Mar 03 09:04:16 DocScrutinizer, you did its with me) ( I investigated that down to gory detail some time ago, with some user of this chan. ) Mar 03 09:04:27 I'm not paid for rants only. I'm not not paid for doing useful work ;-P Mar 03 09:06:36 Wonka: a quick and dirty solution would be to c&p the backsroll of this chan from[2010-03-03 09:57:10] btw, my backscroll... to [2010-03-03 10:04:16] DocScrutinizer, you did... Mar 03 09:09:05 as for me, I would like to add, that shr-distro(fso) expect storing time in UTC Mar 03 09:09:08 so, hwclock --utc shoud be used Mar 03 09:09:22 DocScrutinizer, and as I know, fso always do it with fix from gps Mar 03 09:09:42 max_posedon: yep, fso does correct Mar 03 09:09:44 but shr doesn't restoring time from hwclock on wakeup, it was root of my problems and 10s lag Mar 03 09:11:50 max_posedon: I have no doubt you're correct about shr expecting UTC. I just think the current mode should show up in /etc/adjtime file and user usually doesn't need to care Mar 03 09:14:08 so odds are whenever the system *maybe* uses localtime rather than UTC, then user issuing a hwclock --UTC seriously messes up the whole system by switching the setting stored in /etc/adjtime which is used for default by any invocation of hwclock without either --UTC or --localtime Mar 03 09:15:15 what the hell did I do reporting this thing! :D Mar 03 09:15:34 I could never imagine.. Mar 03 09:16:49 the correct recommendation should be: cat /etc/adjtime | grep (utc|local); on $?=0 do not use --utc or --localtime Mar 03 09:17:21 freerunner's users travel, so, neo many times changes his TZ according to GSM Mar 03 09:17:34 graziano: thanks again for reminder. This needs a decent final sorting for sure Mar 03 09:17:41 I'm not sure that local(not utc) time will work correctly Mar 03 09:18:30 in TZ-changed cases Mar 03 09:18:36 max_posedon: this friggin braindead auto-TZ setting based on GSM is exactly a monster PITA when roaming Mar 03 09:18:52 works really nice for me Mar 03 09:18:59 (at my travel to essen) Mar 03 09:19:24 so you're lucky Mar 03 09:19:37 i used utc!) Mar 03 09:19:57 for me it works almost anywhere but germany ;) Mar 03 09:20:18 1) there's no means whatsoever to conveniently override this shit. So you're busted whenever this auto-TZ fails Mar 03 09:20:48 2) TZ isn't displayed anywhere, so you have no means to tell if it is set correctly at all Mar 03 09:20:57 1) true. I'd imagine that to be in the Time & Date section of shr-settings Mar 03 09:21:15 3) adjusting time without noticing user about it is a *bad* thing all day Mar 03 09:21:38 2) true. should also be displayed in T&D Mar 03 09:22:01 3) maybe. my SE has an option for that. Change never, ask before change, change without asking Mar 03 09:22:27 I tend to agree with that Mar 03 09:22:29 your SE can be BS same as PS3) Mar 03 09:23:08 the default is ask before change, which I find good for my use. Mar 03 09:23:23 you all heard about date&time PS3 fail this year? Mar 03 09:23:34 max_posedon: I tend to say that the Nokia had this problem, because it couldn't register the last 2 days Mar 03 09:23:55 still, even _I_ have developed a C macro that correctly calculates leap years :P Mar 03 09:24:09 it's in the source of fltkhackdiet Mar 03 09:24:12 you don't need date&time for registring I think) Mar 03 09:24:25 max_posedon: okay, then it was meditel that b0rked :P Mar 03 09:25:04 #define isleapyear(x) (x % 400 == 0 ? 0 : (x % 100 == 0 ? 1 : x % 4)) Mar 03 09:25:19 if that return 0 it's a leap year :P Mar 03 09:25:41 doesn't include the change in rotation caused by the chilean earthquake, though :P Mar 03 09:26:15 isleapyear is boolean? Mar 03 09:26:26 Serdar: no, int Mar 03 09:26:37 blindcoder, this code is BS Mar 03 09:26:39 sorry) Mar 03 09:26:44 max_posedon: why? Mar 03 09:27:00 if(isleapyear(current+1)) Mar 03 09:27:07 max_posedon: if it is, I need to correct it, so please share :) Mar 03 09:27:10 ah Mar 03 09:27:21 right, I keep forgetting to parenthesize in macrons Mar 03 09:27:22 mcros Mar 03 09:27:26 * blindcoder .oO( argh ) Mar 03 09:27:27 macros Mar 03 09:27:30 still BS Mar 03 09:27:36 if(isleapyear(++current)) Mar 03 09:27:49 hehehehe Mar 03 09:27:50 okay, I'll make it into a function :P Mar 03 09:27:51 how many ++ you expect?) Mar 03 09:28:24 macros are a tricky thing Mar 03 09:28:37 also if(isleapyear(400)) Mar 03 09:28:38 in my code I don't use it like that, so I didn't trigger that bug Mar 03 09:28:47 but you're right Mar 03 09:28:53 * blindcoder goes to hide under a rock Mar 03 09:29:24 I only use it to check if the current year is a leapyear, so it should be safe anyway Mar 03 09:29:31 DocScrutinizer: thank you for all your help and support. Being a normal user in a hardcore development channel can be quite hard :) Mar 03 09:29:41 even more fun: #define daysinmonth(m, y) ( m > 7 ? ( m % 2 == 0 ? 31 : 30 ) : ( m == 2 ? ( isleapyear(y) == 0 ? 29 : 28 ) : ( m % 2 == 1 ? 31 : 30 ) ) ) Mar 03 09:29:44 you're turn :D Mar 03 09:29:47 your* Mar 03 09:31:16 err Mar 03 09:31:27 ( m % 2 == 0 ? 31 : 30 ) Mar 03 09:31:32 you got this 2 times. Mar 03 09:31:53 correct, once for the months 1-6 and once for 7-12 Mar 03 09:32:03 the second one is m % 2 == 1 though Mar 03 09:32:16 why not useing for 1-12? you can ask before for leap year Mar 03 09:32:36 Serdar: !!! o.O Mar 03 09:32:48 because the months 1 3 5 7 8 10 12 are months with 31 days Mar 03 09:32:58 notice the change from odd to even at 8 Mar 03 09:36:06 max_posedon: I actually ran into that macro(var+1) mistake in spacetrader :) Mar 03 09:37:54 I guess I need more sleep. Mar 03 09:38:01 :-D Mar 03 09:38:41 it's the == 0 or 1, in C I loved ! for this kind of things Mar 03 09:38:42 * DocScrutinizer thinks he needs another pot of coffee Mar 03 09:39:05 in C++ I always suggest templates for such functions Mar 03 09:39:45 well, ! would add an additional instruction to negate a result, though that's probably negligible with todays compiler optimisations Mar 03 09:39:46 in C++ I always suggest to run and hide Mar 03 09:40:25 * blindcoder .oO( there was something about C, C++ and shooting yourself in the foot ) Mar 03 09:40:34 in C++ I deligate the code to others. Mar 03 09:41:06 btw, does your function expect working in BC times?) Mar 03 09:41:20 blindcoder: compiler can handle it without negating too :) Mar 03 09:41:43 (negative year param) Mar 03 09:42:23 somebody who sgould know suggested there are two to five indiviuals on this earth who really know how to code C++ Mar 03 09:43:26 lindi-: of course BRZ vs BRNZ Mar 03 09:45:11 coffffeeeeee, gimmegimme Mar 03 09:45:15 yep Mar 03 09:45:27 :) Mar 03 09:45:28 max_posedon: don't think so ;) but it works for intended parameters (say, 1990-now) Mar 03 09:45:55 if you are curious, read (e)glibc source code for the date/time handling part Mar 03 09:46:17 "This, of course, stems from the widely spread mistake, that 'C' actually exists." Mar 03 09:46:21 DocScrutinizer, there are 10 kind of people on earth, ones who can read binary and those who can't. Mar 03 09:50:21 By 1855 the vast majority of public Mar 03 09:50:21 By 1855 the vast majority of public Mar 03 09:50:21 By 1855 the vast majority of public Mar 03 09:50:23 whoops :) Mar 03 09:51:13 "clocks in Britain were set to GMT (though some, like the great clock on Tom Tower at Christ Church, Oxford, were fitted with two minute hands, one for local time and one for GMT). The last major holdout was the legal system, which stubbornly stuck to local time for many years, leading to oddities like polls opening at 08:13 and closing at 16:13." Mar 03 09:51:17 lindi-: lucky you we got no spammer autokick yet :-P Mar 03 09:51:24 -- http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/time/timezones.txt Mar 03 09:53:39 qbnnxqqsuzszsussssssssssssghu^ Mar 03 09:54:06 everybody went silly now? Mar 03 09:54:41 Serdar: (10) one of my favourites Mar 03 09:55:56 DocScrutinizer: yes Mar 03 09:56:00 even $customer Mar 03 09:56:16 I'm leaving tomorrow and now they come with: oh hey, here's an update, install that before you leave, will you? Mar 03 09:56:44 note that I haven't even finished first installation yet :P Mar 03 09:56:52 Serdar: the funny part is you no way ever can *tell* that joke. My freinds looked quite puzzled at me when I said "got a joke, pass your paper towel so I can write it down for you" Mar 03 09:57:50 blindcoder: ½€¶€ŧæ½@¼←customer!! >:-( Mar 03 09:58:01 yeah, something like that Mar 03 09:58:18 DocScrutinizer, you can't tell it. Mar 03 09:58:29 I told them, that if they can get the media (10+GB) here ("broadband" here means 30 kB/s) by TODAY, then I'll try ;) Mar 03 09:58:32 "The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM, the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the Constitution" Mar 03 09:58:38 is also quite hilarious Mar 03 09:59:25 lindi-: actually, it's quite reasonable Mar 03 09:59:53 lindi-: voting machines shouldn't be compromisable in _any_ way, I think. changing the time would enable one to switch back to "it's election time" Mar 03 09:59:58 blindcoder: but by switching timezones rapidly you can make sure that 8 AM never takes place :) Mar 03 10:00:38 lindi-: okay, that I don't understand. here DST starts and ends at 2 AM Mar 03 10:01:48 ~nuke voting machines Mar 03 10:01:49 * apt prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at voting machines ... B☢☢M! Mar 03 10:02:52 all voting machines need a eprom upgrade to turn them into chess machines Mar 03 10:06:56 voting machines are a way to throw $$$$ on a problem that doesn't exist, then throw $$$$$ to the problems generated by the voting machines Mar 03 10:11:03 that's look like consulting Mar 03 10:11:40 lobbying Mar 03 10:13:02 of course lobbying often comes with the label "consulting" Mar 03 10:15:02 PaulFertser: hi Mar 03 10:15:40 PaulFertser: could use that app to call and talk with sony ericson but does not work with fr Mar 03 10:18:27 w00t Mar 03 10:18:37 geeksphone does have 200hrs standby.... Mar 03 10:19:33 geeksphone? Mar 03 10:21:33 geeksphone.com Mar 03 10:21:42 Serdar, they finally released it? Mar 03 10:21:59 yes, it's 299 Mar 03 10:22:06 E299 Mar 03 10:22:09 $||€ Mar 03 10:22:12 ah ok Mar 03 10:22:33 it'S too much for me, I need a new job :( Mar 03 10:22:38 did they already release the current source? Mar 03 10:22:57 source of android? Mar 03 10:23:19 source.android.com Mar 03 10:23:25 there is 2.1 Mar 03 10:23:28 no. kernel driver's Mar 03 10:23:42 I compiled an image of 2.1 for openmoko Mar 03 10:23:43 who cares about android in here? Mar 03 10:23:57 I do. Mar 03 10:24:26 better idea: compile SHR for the geeksphone :) Mar 03 10:24:35 hmm, looks like the geeksphone has everything the FR doesn't Mar 03 10:24:38 no need, thanks. Mar 03 10:24:53 i.e. long battery life, 3.5mm jack, highspeed internet Mar 03 10:24:55 i guess i want Mar 03 10:24:59 farhaven, yes 200hrs standby :) Mar 03 10:25:10 except open hardware Mar 03 10:25:13 which is way longer than the ~50h i get atm :D Mar 03 10:25:23 playyaWorking: well, the glamo isn't exactly open, right? Mar 03 10:25:34 i'd want debian on that thing though Mar 03 10:26:15 and it has a hardware keyboard Mar 03 10:26:17 big plus for me Mar 03 10:26:18 porting FSO to that thing. mickey|office ping? :) Mar 03 10:26:38 palm pre is on the agenda Mar 03 10:26:44 I would love it too, but no money :( Mar 03 10:26:55 hmm, also their delivery is kind fscked Mar 03 10:26:57 palm pre is much more expensive I guess. Mar 03 10:27:04 buy now, enjoy on christmas Mar 03 10:27:05 wtf Mar 03 10:29:11 farhaven: even htc dream has a qwerty hardware keyboard Mar 03 10:29:24 I think it's less expesnive than the palm pre Mar 03 10:29:38 graziano: well, but my phone hasn't Mar 03 10:29:38 htc dream now is sold at about 300 euro online Mar 03 10:29:43 which makes me jealous Mar 03 10:30:42 maybe i should spend less money on food Mar 03 10:30:59 you can do that? Mar 03 10:31:11 i it costs about 60€ a week and I'm single Mar 03 10:31:19 no alcohol included Mar 03 10:31:35 ok. cigarettes include Mar 03 10:32:01 but 40-60€ a week is still too much. Mar 03 10:32:07 I could live with 20-30 EUR per week Mar 03 10:32:51 (60EUR - 30 EUR) * 52 Mar 03 10:33:08 s/52/52 weeks Mar 03 10:33:31 hmm, that geekphone thing isn't THAT outstanding Mar 03 10:34:16 it has a vibrator, many women would love it. Mar 03 10:34:20 and I'd take that 200h standby with more than a grain of salt, really Mar 03 10:35:02 a grain of dilithium crystals? Mar 03 10:35:44 I'd guess with same parameters for standby time, FR could state a standby of 300h Mar 03 10:36:04 hehe Mar 03 10:38:44 could Mar 03 10:39:06 yeah, but FR has a *proven* standby time of 150h Mar 03 10:39:29 iirc Mar 03 10:39:49 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rb490db4a3de9 10/tools/audio-test/audio-test.c: tools: audio-test: fix it until it works :) Mar 03 10:39:50 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * reb2924964118 10/libmsmcomm/ (6 files in 2 dirs): libmsmcomm: clean up a little bit Mar 03 10:39:56 alphaone|gone should know details. He did the tests (still iirc) Mar 03 10:40:27 DocScrutinizer: could you provide more info about 300h standby? which component (except Calypso) has useless power consuption? Mar 03 10:41:23 ~praise morphis Mar 03 10:41:24 All hail morphis! Mar 03 10:41:46 Martix: see, the calypso has a optimum standby of 4mA, this makes 300h with gta02 bat 1200mAh Mar 03 10:43:05 could recamping fixed Calypso reach 4mA? Mar 03 10:44:34 but other components are powered in standby, too Mar 03 10:44:39 Martix: as we don't like to completely power down the main system during GSM standby, we lose another ~4mA for system, which results in a real life standby of ~150h with a #1024 fixed device, under optimum circumstances (no moving, no frequent re-registrations with network, good GSM coverage) Mar 03 10:45:40 DocScrutinizer: would it be possible to power down the other ram chip though? ;) Mar 03 10:46:01 (totally wild guess) Mar 03 10:46:53 lindi-: maybe with some sort of suspend-to-disk scheme modified, we could do this. Not worth the effort though Mar 03 10:47:34 btw Touch Book has ~15 hours without any power management, 18000 mAh battery rocks :-) Mar 03 10:47:56 DocScrutinizer: but if we only use 64M of ram in the first place? Mar 03 10:48:08 * mickey|office ponders about an X201s Mar 03 10:48:40 lindi-: as well possible, at the expense of massive swapping seriously slowing down the whole system Mar 03 10:49:11 x200s? Mar 03 10:49:22 DocScrutinizer: sure but that's a different issue, i was just curious as to how much you could decrease consumption from 4 mA Mar 03 10:49:44 lenovo x201s Mar 03 10:49:50 i have no idea how much each component consumes Mar 03 10:49:56 ah Mar 03 10:49:58 not that much, it's for whole system (raw guess) Mar 03 10:50:52 ehi I am using shr testing from January 25, is it safe to do opkg update and dist-upgrade now? Mar 03 10:51:21 lindi-: some 2 years ago Andy posted a table to the ML that broke up to consumption estimated for the difefrent subsystems Mar 03 10:52:45 DocScrutinizer: cool Mar 03 10:53:09 hmm probably s/up/down/ Mar 03 10:56:42 just an idea about 300 hours standby... could be possible hack Calypso firmware to power on the main system? this maybe will need I2C Calypso to PMU wiring rework, so it seems like interesting hack for GTA02-core guys Mar 03 10:57:14 well, gta02-core is not using the calypso Mar 03 10:57:39 (not to say that 02-core will not produce any hardware any time soon anyways) Mar 03 10:57:41 well, I fotgot :-) Mar 03 10:58:10 DocScrutinizer: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-February/001056.html Mar 03 10:58:19 DocScrutinizer: "The total current is 2.06mA on VBAT=3.7V. Mar 03 10:58:24 sounds very interesting Mar 03 11:06:01 lindi-: Maybe this isn't crazy... we expect 250uA for selfrefresh on SDRAM Mar 03 11:06:21 quote: Andy Mar 03 11:08:56 DocScrutinizer: any idea if that "2.06mA" was for the whole device or just the s3c chipset? Mar 03 11:09:30 not really Mar 03 11:09:56 it's usual engrish ambiguous wording Mar 03 11:15:23 hm there is no kicad for macos... Mar 03 11:26:45 err, isn't this a coment for #core? Mar 03 12:29:36 how do you compile a kernel with a kms driver for the glamo ? Is there a particular configuration symbol needed ? I found some via google but they are not available in make menuconfig, I guess they are deprecated. (I use the latest git rev from branch om-gta02-2.6.32) Mar 03 12:35:14 Deubeuliou: DRM/kms patches are not merged in om-gta02-2.6.32 Mar 03 12:35:32 Deubeuliou: you need this branch http://git.bitwiz.org.uk/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/gdrm-2.6.32 Mar 03 12:36:38 Deubeuliou: needed patches are also extracted to files in http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/linux/linux-openmoko-2.6.32 to use openmoko git repository instead of bitwiz from OE Mar 03 12:36:51 Deubeuliou: there is also defconfig we use for SHR builds Mar 03 12:37:14 JaMa: thanks :) Mar 03 12:37:28 Deubeuliou: and you also need libdrm/mesa-dri from Thomas's repo Mar 03 12:40:01 JaMa: what about the drm-tracking branch ? Mar 03 12:40:17 Deubeuliou: ah for .29-rc3? Mar 03 12:41:10 here are patches for defconfig we're using: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/linux/linux-openmoko-shr-drm-devel Mar 03 12:41:28 ah right, that's not the same kernel version Mar 03 12:41:30 Deubeuliou: but this version doesn't have latest WSOD fix included.. so it cannot suspend/resume properly Mar 03 12:41:52 ok, I'll go for bitwiz.org Mar 03 12:41:59 Deubeuliou: so if you want DRM/KMS I strongly recommend 2.6.32 version :) Mar 03 12:42:22 why would I get ERROR: Error, lockfile path does not exist!: /home/spaetz/src/shrbuildenv/shr-testing/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/libgsm0710mux-1_0.9.0+gitr0+7934196c47eb80e77105a92cb684656b3614a9fc-r0/packages-split Mar 03 12:42:32 when that is not even the revision I am trying to build? Mar 03 12:42:40 I already deleted tmp/cache Mar 03 12:42:41 Deubeuliou: I guess you need want it for H:1 but check if something from http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/switch-for-kernel is usable for you too Mar 03 12:42:55 spaetz: you need to remove it from tmp/pkgdata Mar 03 12:43:03 ok, thanks Mar 03 12:43:28 spaetz: problem description: http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg04129.html Mar 03 12:43:56 spaetz: you can remove that "bb.data.setVar(key, sdata[key], d)" line to build it ok Mar 03 12:45:00 interesting, thanks a bunch Mar 03 12:45:23 did nobody reply yet to your report? Mar 03 12:47:36 Deubeuliou: I updated my website with simplified build instructions (i.e. no longer a complete description of how to use bitbake..) at http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/dri-for-the-freerunner.html - just realised the kernel step still refers to 2.6.29 though Mar 03 12:47:48 .. but that'll tell you what order to do things in Mar 03 12:48:38 thanks JaMa, Weiss Mar 03 12:50:28 * Weiss wonders if we should rebase up to 2.6.33 Mar 03 12:51:11 how far are we away from a stable .32? Mar 03 12:52:12 not far, but rebasing wouldn't necessarily be a disaster Mar 03 12:52:30 e.g. we're much closer to a stable .32 than we got to a stable .31 Mar 03 12:52:37 (..or maybe that's just my perception?) Mar 03 12:52:37 hehe, sounds eerily similar to my plan :) Mar 03 12:52:44 oops Mar 03 12:52:51 although, in .33 Android stuff is removed Mar 03 12:53:12 so maybe we should stay with .32 and finalize it? Mar 03 13:07:06 spaetz: no, but sent ping now.. Mar 03 13:07:35 finalizing sounds good Mar 03 13:07:45 i would not mind a finished kernel Mar 03 13:07:55 mrmoku: good that you moved sysfs path to fsogsmd config :) Mar 03 13:09:19 JaMa: guess that was mickey|office :P Mar 03 13:10:23 JaMa: what issues are remaining before we can switch shr-u? Mar 03 13:10:29 mickey|office: ^^ that was for you :) Mar 03 13:10:35 mickey|office, is there a forked korg tree or are we useing korg tree? Mar 03 13:10:37 probably we need fsogsmd for that? Mar 03 13:10:39 which sysfs did i move? Mar 03 13:10:46 Good day all , This http://nohands.sf.net/ works well with sony phone but does not work with FR , can not dial ... to headset be able dial should something be enabled ? Mar 03 13:10:56 Serdar2: what is korg? Mar 03 13:11:00 kernel.org Mar 03 13:11:03 ah Mar 03 13:11:06 short korg Mar 03 13:11:14 we're using git.openmoko.org Mar 03 13:11:23 neo is still somewhat away from mainline Mar 03 13:11:29 but tbh... i don't care too much *cough* Mar 03 13:11:49 since there won't be newer hardware anywasy Mar 03 13:12:16 there is no .32 or am I wrong? Mar 03 13:12:23 I only see .27 and .29 Mar 03 13:12:32 mickey|office: that kernel switching script from mrmoku was changing sysfs path in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/modem.py Mar 03 13:12:33 and .24 Mar 03 13:12:54 mickey|office: for playing with fsogsmd I was scared to need to build different package for .32 Mar 03 13:13:40 right, it's configurable there Mar 03 13:13:40 mickey|office: but because you put sysfs path in config /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/fsogsmd.conf instead of hardcoded somewhere, it's as easy to change as it was with python implementation Mar 03 13:14:14 JaMa: are the new paths available already? i'd like to add them to libomhacks Mar 03 13:15:34 lindi-: that script is only changing s#/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/#/gta02-pm-gsm.0/#g and the same for gps.. but it's probably not complete.. and I don't have any overview of changed paths.. Mar 03 13:16:38 lindi-: ah and there was some change in drm node path (also because of dropping DEPRECATED_SYSFS_NODE kernel config option), but Thomas made it backwards compatible Mar 03 13:18:31 TAsn: newer eglibc locale build is in feed, you can try Mar 03 13:19:23 JaMa: some days (or weeks?), you pointed me at /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/fsousaged.conf, which doesn't exist on my shr-u, there's only fsodeviced.conf in that dir Mar 03 13:19:54 JaMa: is shr-u just too old? Mar 03 13:22:08 hmm I have a debug board, but can't use it... Mar 03 13:22:14 Wonka: try strace fsousaged to see where it finds your config.. but it should be there (with config for other fso daemons - I have fsodeviced.conf fsogsmd.conf fsousaged.conf alsa.conf) Mar 03 13:22:21 because there is no manual :/ Mar 03 13:27:22 JaMa: funy. I have an /usr/bin/fsousaged, but nothing in /etc/init.d/ starts it (it's not in `ps ax` either)... it tries several locations for fsousaged.conf which all fail (/etc/, /etc/freesmartphone/, /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/, /etc/freesmartphone/conf/default/) Mar 03 13:29:10 hi all Mar 03 13:29:45 JaMa: who wrote the script? Mar 03 13:31:16 lindi-: mrmoku and then I changed it a bit Mar 03 13:31:39 JaMa: where did mrmoku get these paths? ;) Mar 03 13:31:54 JaMa: i'd like to quote some source in the commit Mar 03 13:32:29 mrmoku: where did you find these paths? :) I guess with find and common-sense :) Mar 03 13:33:31 lindi-: IMHO you won't find commit changing that from old to new, but commit adding that driver with already new paths.. you should probably ask larsc Mar 03 13:33:41 argh :) Mar 03 13:33:46 larsc: ping? ;) Mar 03 13:33:56 Wonka, i think you won't need a /etc/init.d script because it uses dbus activation Mar 03 13:34:32 playyaWorking: how do you stop it then? Mar 03 13:34:40 playyaWorking: ah, that explains why I had seen log messages from fsousaged... Mar 03 13:34:47 but why is there no config anywhere? Mar 03 13:34:52 you cannot Mar 03 13:35:13 if it stop with a return value != 0 dbus should restart it Mar 03 13:35:30 Wonka: try opkg install -force-reinstall fsousaged Mar 03 13:35:30 playyaWorking: how do you apply security fixes? Mar 03 13:35:36 playyaWorking: by rebooting? ;) Mar 03 13:36:27 no Mar 03 13:36:48 it uses exec, so you should install it and kill it Mar 03 13:37:42 «error: linux, dependency of fsobasics-2.0, not found in specified Vala API directories» Mar 03 13:39:29 aha. someone tries to run windows on the openmoko Mar 03 13:43:22 how can I open the case? Mar 03 13:44:27 sie müssen erst den nippel durch die lasche ziehen und dann die kleine kurbel ganz nach oben drehen. da erscheint da so ein pfeil und da drücken sie dann drauf und schon geht das moko auf Mar 03 13:44:56 Krause don't help me here :( Mar 03 13:45:03 -me Mar 03 13:45:10 I unscrewd two screws Mar 03 13:45:22 ok. that's enough Mar 03 13:45:37 carefully uses your nails on the frontcover Mar 03 13:45:52 JaMa: searching for them :P Mar 03 13:46:08 (and probably some common sense, yes) Mar 03 13:47:00 Serdar2, search on youtube Mar 03 13:47:01 Wonka: copy a fresh linux.vapi into the staging area; there's a blacklisting missing somewhere Mar 03 13:47:07 afaikr there's a video Mar 03 13:47:35 oh. again this problem Mar 03 13:47:55 i just read the first words and assumed an opkg error+ Mar 03 13:47:55 playyaWorking, this works down, but if I go up I am afraid I could break something... Mar 03 13:49:02 mickey|office: I blacklisted only those config.*, because IIRS you said that if .vapi is included in sources than it's usually because you needed newer version than was in vala-native Mar 03 13:49:49 mickey|office: I have script for comparing that those .vapi files are not changed during rebuild, so I can also check for files installed without need (when the same already exists there) Mar 03 13:49:52 JaMa: true, but still i don't know why they vanish then Mar 03 13:50:05 the problem is not the versioning, but the removal Mar 03 13:50:31 JaMa, I honestly think it's e Mar 03 13:50:33 but sec, I'll try Mar 03 13:54:08 grml Mar 03 13:54:11 mickey|office: well if you -c clean some fso recipe with linux.vapi and then build another which expects linux.vapi it fails as expected Mar 03 13:54:29 there must be more than 2 screws... Mar 03 13:54:52 mickey|office: so installing the same .vapi as is alredy in vapi dir, is possibly harmfull Mar 03 13:55:50 right Mar 03 13:55:56 afaik the linux.vapi should never be installed into staging Mar 03 13:56:21 lets say we should not install any .vapis that are already part of the vala distro Mar 03 13:56:37 yes Mar 03 14:01:04 mrmoku, btw, the seg I found is after calls end Mar 03 14:01:12 haven't found the exact location yet Mar 03 14:01:22 hmm Mar 03 14:01:22 have you changed anything in call handling lately? Mar 03 14:01:25 no Mar 03 14:01:26 or only I changed? Mar 03 14:01:33 did not touch calls Mar 03 14:01:50 I changed sound handling a bit Mar 03 14:01:58 though I don't think that's related Mar 03 14:02:01 actually it shouldn't be Mar 03 14:02:04 because I didn't change Mar 03 14:02:07 just added Mar 03 14:02:18 (and that code is probably not even used atm) Mar 03 14:02:22 so I guess I did something bad Mar 03 14:02:27 when fixing compilation warnings Mar 03 14:05:02 TAsn: with this fix http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=4f499f5ed9139cc9a0ef1a01bb988246cacc533c my newer e-wm at home starts ok.. so I'll test later Mar 03 14:05:57 hurray Mar 03 14:06:01 I got my case open Mar 03 14:06:09 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r81dff77e0e57 10/src/view/message-list-view.c: message-list: fix segfault when a message has no Direction field Mar 03 14:06:44 TAsn: did you start doing something with phonelog? Mar 03 14:06:47 mrmoku, I didn't handle that? ^ I remember I did. Mar 03 14:06:51 mrmoku, no Mar 03 14:06:58 * TAsn was too busy with contact-view Mar 03 14:07:21 TAsn: you didn't... and it is not even needed to check Direction Mar 03 14:07:31 lindi-: pong Mar 03 14:07:37 everything not having MessageRead=0 is a read message, no? Mar 03 14:07:46 mrmoku, no Mar 03 14:07:49 also without this field Mar 03 14:07:52 it's an unread Mar 03 14:07:59 JaMa: I could remove fsousaged, but there is no fsousage*.ipk anywhere below shr-unstable/tmp/deploy/ipk/ currently Mar 03 14:08:04 TAsn: why that? Mar 03 14:08:05 only MessageRead: 1 are read Mar 03 14:08:18 mrmoku, no idea, I can change that. Mar 03 14:08:35 hmm, so opimd does not add that by default... Ic Mar 03 14:08:38 Wonka: on shr buildhost? Mar 03 14:09:14 JaMa: in my tree Mar 03 14:09:24 Wonka: then you should build it :) Mar 03 14:09:29 TAsn: well, will readd the check for Direction then :) Mar 03 14:09:41 JaMa: it has been built some time ago, because it was installed... Mar 03 14:09:42 noob :P Mar 03 14:09:47 hmm does anybody knows a howto for this debug board? Mar 03 14:10:49 Serdar2: have you searched openmoko wiki? Mar 03 14:11:03 Serdar2: I've seen howto for both versions there Mar 03 14:12:32 JaMa, I found this page two, but if you search for plektron, there is no information. Mar 03 14:12:41 I can play my guitar but that's all Mar 03 14:13:07 Serdar2: I wrote a little bit about using GDB with the debug board here: http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/2009/06/gdb-debug-board.html Mar 03 14:15:32 NOTE: Running task 5968 of 14024 and segfaulting.. Mar 03 14:18:12 Weiss, can you tell me, what I need to do with these golden screws and this plektron, I don't find any information. Usage comes _after_ setting up / preperation, or not? Mar 03 14:19:32 Configuring e-wm-input-methods. Mar 03 14:19:38 JaMa, looks promising :P Mar 03 14:19:46 TAsn: my feeds? :) Mar 03 14:19:53 no Mar 03 14:19:55 just opkg upgrade Mar 03 14:20:07 hmm interesting.. Mar 03 14:20:21 ahh.. its just PR bump.. Mar 03 14:20:42 but looks can be deceiving Mar 03 14:20:49 doesn't work :( Mar 03 14:20:53 will try a reboot to make sure Mar 03 14:21:02 TAsn: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=b1543738589a29e1f6af430787c3218c6601aeb9 Mar 03 14:21:16 TAsn: locale-base was also upgraded? Mar 03 14:21:23 larsc: do you have list of /sys changes after andy-tracking? would be good to get them to debian squeeze Mar 03 14:21:26 yes Mar 03 14:21:45 Serdar2: the plectrum (guitar pick, plektron) is to help with getting the cover off the FR. once you've taken the two Torx screws out, you push it between the top cover and middle case, then move it down one side, then repeat on the other, and the top comes off with a snapping sound (details on the wiki... I'd do a video if I had a sensible camera..) Mar 03 14:22:00 TAsn: you can try my feed :) Mar 03 14:22:01 lindi-: nope. but i can make one Mar 03 14:22:30 TAsn: but in 4 hours I'll test it for you.. on my neo Mar 03 14:22:57 Weiss, args, you say me that NOW... grr I had hell of fun with this case :/ Mar 03 14:23:01 JaMa, I'll just wait for you then :) Mar 03 14:23:23 Serdar2: that golden screw things go through the four holes at the corners of the debug board. I put them through such that the longer bits stick out the bottom (non-component size) and it stands on that, raised slightly above the table Mar 03 14:23:35 TAsn: I've also bumped e17 on my desktop.. so I'll try it there too Mar 03 14:23:54 TAsn: to eliminate eglibc influence Mar 03 14:24:05 there are 7 golden and 4 silver Mar 03 14:24:16 I used 4 silver for the debug board. Mar 03 14:24:18 I'm not sure if it's illume which is broken Mar 03 14:24:20 or just e Mar 03 14:24:49 7? hmm.. I think I got four longer ones and four shorter.. can't remember which I used.. shorter I think Mar 03 14:25:33 actually, I have my laptop webcam.. maybe I'll do a cheesy youtube video Mar 03 14:25:43 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r1a87608fa718 10/src/view/message-list-view.c: message-list: re-add check for Direction when determining the read state of a message Mar 03 14:25:48 4 longer 3 shorter gold and 4 shorter in silver Mar 03 14:25:57 plus some nuts? Mar 03 14:26:07 4 nuts Mar 03 14:26:34 one jtag cable 1 musb2usb cable and a plektron Mar 03 14:27:01 query? Mar 03 14:27:27 yeah.. I'm not quite sure why there are so many of the standoff things.. I just used four sensibly sized ones plus four nuts to make the DB sit nicely on my desk, and that's it Mar 03 14:29:37 I guess I will have a problem with my macbook Mar 03 14:29:54 larsc: should i send you email about it? Mar 03 14:30:18 Serdar2: what kind of problem> Mar 03 14:30:40 lindi-: to ensure that i won't forget it? Mar 03 14:31:54 larsc: yeah :) Mar 03 14:32:06 larsc: or that i won't forget Mar 03 14:32:11 Weiss, maybe there is no driver libftdi for example Mar 03 14:34:58 lindi-: go ahead Mar 03 14:38:35 Serdar2: maybe.. I don't know.. Mar 03 14:54:27 SHR: 03mok 07phoneui-apps * rd349e764400d 10/src/ (Makefile.am phone-log-main.c phonelog-main.c): rename phonelog to phone-log for consistency Mar 03 14:56:15 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r9e53a5041fd5 10/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): rename phonelog to phone-log for consistency Mar 03 15:01:51 TAsn: I'm taking a look at phonelog now... in case you're boared there is still the call screen pending :P Mar 03 15:03:05 s/boared/bored/ Mar 03 15:03:06 mrmoku meant: TAsn: I'm taking a look at phonelog now... in case you're bored there is still the call screen pending :P Mar 03 15:03:16 mrmoku, you are done with messages? Mar 03 15:03:35 TAsn: ahh, now that you mention them... there's at least one thing missing :P Mar 03 15:03:41 :) Mar 03 15:03:45 remove recipients Mar 03 15:04:03 and for phonelog I will need your help anyway :) Mar 03 15:04:39 you did limit the calls you view, right? Mar 03 15:05:35 through the opimd query... Mar 03 15:05:51 and yes, you should limit to a user configured value Mar 03 15:06:03 mrmoku, btw, one request for messages Mar 03 15:06:12 when pressing "add" in the number page Mar 03 15:06:22 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r0b5b8c82389b 10/src/view/phone-log-view.c: phone-log-view: consequently use VIEW_PTR instead of &view.parent Mar 03 15:06:23 actually 2 requests Mar 03 15:06:39 1. When pressing add in the add number page Mar 03 15:06:44 try to resolve the name Mar 03 15:06:50 before it's added to list Mar 03 15:06:54 or something like that :P Mar 03 15:06:56 ok Mar 03 15:07:10 (no need to first insert and then update, as resolving is now fast) Mar 03 15:07:23 second thing, consider using the keypad widget Mar 03 15:07:28 like in dialer Mar 03 15:07:46 if you don't want atm, I can do it :P Mar 03 15:07:47 oh yes... that one I like :) Mar 03 15:07:55 please do that Mar 03 15:08:08 as I think you're into the keypad, right? Mar 03 15:08:09 ok, so it's added to my TODO :P Mar 03 15:08:16 nah Mar 03 15:08:19 but I don't mind doing it Mar 03 15:08:38 whoever does it... good thing :) Mar 03 15:08:47 yeah :P Mar 03 15:12:35 JaMa, Mar 03 15:12:38 illume-keyboard-default-alpha - 0.16.999.060+svnr46510-r1.4 Mar 03 15:12:39 illume-keyboard-default-numeric - 0.16.999.060+svnr46510-r1.4 Mar 03 15:12:39 illume-keyboard-default-terminal - 0.16.999.060+svnr46510-r1.4 Mar 03 15:12:44 keyboard I got by default in the image ^ Mar 03 15:12:59 We switched to illume-keyboard-alt-numeric a long time ago haven't we? Mar 03 15:17:02 wth Mar 03 15:17:07 JaMa, and keyboard packages are broken again Mar 03 15:17:11 like before the fix I did Mar 03 15:17:15 (wrong dir) Mar 03 15:17:41 only in feed ./tasks/task-shr-feed.bb: illume-keyboard-numeric-alt Mar 03 15:18:07 it should be (and was) in default image Mar 03 15:18:13 instead of the numeric keyboard Mar 03 15:18:50 and furthermore, there's an issue with the dir it's installed to (remember the cp vs cp ./ ?) Mar 03 15:18:54 TAsn: I'll check.. IIRC there was some patch about numeric/numbers name typo or something like that Mar 03 15:19:14 TAsn: yup, remember Mar 03 15:19:27 We haven't swiched, we made the default one removeable Mar 03 15:19:48 exported it to a seperate package Mar 03 15:20:23 but we wanted to switch Mar 03 15:20:26 and I think we have Mar 03 15:20:28 mrmoku, ^ ? Mar 03 15:20:35 ./shr/e-wm-config-illume2-shr_git.bb: illume-keyboard-default-alpha \ Mar 03 15:20:35 ./shr/e-wm-config-illume2-shr_git.bb: illume-keyboard-default-numeric \ Mar 03 15:20:38 ./shr/e-wm-config-illume2-shr_git.bb: illume-keyboard-default-terminal \ Mar 03 15:20:41 ./shr/e-wm-config-illume-shr_git.bb: illume-keyboard-default-alpha \ Mar 03 15:20:43 ./shr/e-wm-config-illume-shr_git.bb: illume-keyboard-default-numeric \ Mar 03 15:20:46 ./shr/e-wm-config-illume-shr_git.bb: illume-keyboard-default-terminal \ Mar 03 15:21:08 sorry for flood but you added e-wm-config-illume2-shr_git.bb so you should change it if you really wanted :) Mar 03 15:21:39 :P Mar 03 15:21:42 * TAsn is an idiot Mar 03 15:21:46 well, change it Mar 03 15:21:52 We said we wanted the switch Mar 03 15:21:53 for both illume configs? Mar 03 15:21:56 yes Mar 03 15:22:09 and add the hebrew keyboard for the illume2 one :P (j/k) Mar 03 15:22:23 hehe Mar 03 15:22:41 I really hate myself for using 49 as the default in phone-utils Mar 03 15:22:44 and not 972 :P Mar 03 15:22:59 hehe, you had me looking forward to sending messages in hebrew for a sec there =] Mar 03 15:23:13 go ahead Mar 03 15:23:14 :) Mar 03 15:23:24 sicu, nah, hebrew is a sucky language Mar 03 15:23:30 you don't want to do that, believe me :) Mar 03 15:24:06 yeh, a rather steep learning curve just for sending sms i guess ;p Mar 03 15:25:34 just for sending an sms in a bad language Mar 03 15:25:35 ... Mar 03 15:25:35 ;) Mar 03 15:25:38 ;p Mar 03 15:25:54 has the opkg segfault issue been resolved? Mar 03 15:26:29 still at work, so havn't been able to test Mar 03 15:27:21 * Q-Master upgraded this morning ok Mar 03 15:28:25 sicu: yes and I also replied to my e-mail about it Mar 03 15:31:21 JaMa: great, thanks =] should've checked ml first, sorry Mar 03 15:32:48 no problem (nobody does :)) Mar 03 15:34:53 TAsn: pushed Mar 03 15:35:49 but won't build it soon (NOTE: Running task 7699 of 14024) Mar 03 15:37:35 JaMa, is feed's rebuild finished? There's some missing packages in feed now Mar 03 15:37:54 JaMa, it's ok :P Mar 03 15:38:04 pespin: no Mar 03 15:38:24 pespin: it still segfaults a lot, which makes rebuilding a lot more difficult/slower Mar 03 15:38:30 ok :) Mar 03 15:39:45 pespin: but I hope it will finish today.. Mar 03 15:39:59 pespin: haven't seen lots of "big" recipes missing Mar 03 15:40:50 JaMa, navit, xchat, ventura among toher Mar 03 15:40:52 *others Mar 03 15:41:55 pespin: I mean "big" as "long to build" Mar 03 15:42:03 those ^^ are all for few mins Mar 03 15:44:45 hehe ok :P Mar 03 16:14:13 spaetz: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=732af689fae49fb80e184f2a31c6bdba3f210f11 Mar 03 16:14:34 spaetz: shr-launcher SRCREV goes from where? Mar 03 16:14:43 spaetz: AFAIK it's wrong Mar 03 16:15:23 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rd8e2f465cac3 10/src/phoneui-utils.c: phoneui-utils: call the callback with NULL to signal errors for list queries Mar 03 16:15:37 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r8850be5ab34a 10/src/view/phone-log-view.c: phone-log-view: give it a delete and a hide callback Mar 03 16:15:44 spaetz: svnrev 103 is really latest Mar 03 16:17:53 mrmoku, sms reply is broken Mar 03 16:18:17 segs Mar 03 16:18:49 hmm Mar 03 16:19:01 from the list or the view? Mar 03 16:19:11 both Mar 03 16:19:15 heh Mar 03 16:19:20 the second page Mar 03 16:19:22 segs Mar 03 16:19:27 (list of recipients) Mar 03 16:20:31 and the updating messages list rocks Mar 03 16:20:51 hmm... on a short try it did not segfault for me Mar 03 16:20:57 btw, mrmoku: my next project: making the style we wanted for messages (chat style per contact) Mar 03 16:21:16 good luck ;) Mar 03 16:21:29 TAsn: is it a message from a contact that segs? Mar 03 16:21:49 what do you mean contact that segs? Mar 03 16:21:55 I got a message form a known contact Mar 03 16:21:58 and replying Mar 03 16:21:59 segs Mar 03 16:22:07 yeah, that's what I mean... message from a known contact Mar 03 16:22:07 I'm upgrading atm Mar 03 16:22:23 to make sure it still exists :P Mar 03 16:22:47 can't reproduce it here Mar 03 16:23:17 so maybe you fixed it already Mar 03 16:23:18 sec Mar 03 16:23:26 ohh... closing the new message view made phoneuid go boom :/ Mar 03 16:24:03 mrmoku, how do I tell it to show/not show messages on incoming? Mar 03 16:24:06 where's the config at? Mar 03 16:24:18 (should have been phoneuid, but I'm not sure we moved it yet) Mar 03 16:25:37 you ask questions :P Mar 03 16:25:42 no idea Mar 03 16:25:44 let me search Mar 03 16:26:35 nope, still segs Mar 03 16:26:40 reproduce: Mar 03 16:26:44 open message list Mar 03 16:27:05 oh cool Mar 03 16:27:10 also segs on unknown contacts Mar 03 16:27:14 list - Mar 03 16:27:26 list -> show -> answer -> text -> continue Mar 03 16:27:50 TAsn: phonefsod.conf [gsm] show_incoming_sms Mar 03 16:28:10 oh, my bad Mar 03 16:28:14 only from show message Mar 03 16:28:23 not from answer straight in list Mar 03 16:28:36 have to eat some cake now :P Mar 03 16:28:40 and just segged an an incoming sms Mar 03 16:28:42 and I'm doing exactly that Mar 03 16:28:57 maybe different lfg/libphone-ui/whatever? Mar 03 16:29:03 though it should be binary compatible Mar 03 16:29:06 so I don't see why Mar 03 16:29:10 libphone-ui might be Mar 03 16:29:11 (at least libphone-ui is) Mar 03 16:29:15 lfg is not Mar 03 16:29:17 yeah I know that ;| Mar 03 16:29:31 anyway... bbiab Mar 03 16:29:56 cya Mar 03 16:49:06 hmm, auto-suspend from quicksettings dows not seem to work Mar 03 16:50:01 and selecting reject on an incoming call seems to redirect the call to voicemail Mar 03 16:50:42 reject to voicemail: as it should Mar 03 16:51:00 auto-suspend: toggle it, and look in idle screen (AUX) Mar 03 16:51:07 do you see a # on the top on the right? Mar 03 16:51:57 ah, ok .. guess the voicemail thing does make sense (don't normally use voicemail, so need to turn it off on this new SIM) Mar 03 16:52:38 just confirmed Mar 03 16:52:41 auto-suspend works here Mar 03 16:52:54 !logs Mar 03 16:53:00 if i turn auto-suspend on there is no #, off and it's there Mar 03 16:53:01 ~logs Mar 03 16:53:03 All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily Mar 03 16:53:45 sicu, lol Mar 03 16:53:51 seems like a bug in fso Mar 03 16:54:04 anyhow, I'm off Mar 03 16:54:10 so no time for debugging :| Mar 03 16:54:13 ciao. Mar 03 16:54:14 TAsn: but it never suspends though Mar 03 16:54:21 so it does work :) Mar 03 16:54:30 (then it's a bug in idle screen) Mar 03 16:55:01 TAsn:i mean, it never suspends, regardless of what settings i choose in quick settings Mar 03 16:55:10 lol Mar 03 16:55:20 TAsn: but gotta run too ... so will do more testing later Mar 03 17:02:01 ok, what does the square in idle screen mean? Mar 03 17:02:09 and the # for that matter Mar 03 17:02:36 !seen apt Mar 03 17:02:55 cdbot died :-/ Mar 03 17:03:15 ~log Mar 03 17:03:17 log is probably http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/ for #openmoko-cdevel only. Maybe you meant "~logs" ? Mar 03 17:04:38 TAsn: ok, auto-suspend from quick-settings only works if auto-dim is on (not sure if that's intended?) Mar 03 17:05:05 well, now i'm really off ... bbl Mar 03 17:05:09 sicu, you are wrong Mar 03 17:05:46 TAsn: ok, forgot to add: for me Mar 03 17:06:10 will restart and try again on my way home Mar 03 17:06:59 sicu|gone, mean about intended :P Mar 03 17:22:40 huh? of course dim has to come prior to suspend. No dim, no suspend. Always been like that Mar 03 17:24:11 i don't like dimming so my phone does not dim :) Mar 03 17:25:07 Good day all , This http://nohands.sf.net/ works well with sony phone but does not work with FR , can not dial ... to headset be able dial should something be enabled ? Mar 03 17:26:36 so - if you want it to autosuspend without dimming - you need to set all timeouts between dim and suspend to minimum Mar 03 17:26:37 alabd: your laptop really can act as a bluetooth headset? Mar 03 17:26:55 lindi-: yes lindi- Mar 03 17:27:06 DocScrutinizer: nah, i just don't have the code that could dim anything on my system at all :) Mar 03 17:27:11 alabd: that is very interesting Mar 03 17:27:34 but unfortunately it seems it does not work with FR Mar 03 17:27:46 alabd: does it work with another laptop? Mar 03 17:28:09 lindi-: fr is phone , laptop is headset Mar 03 17:28:30 sony ericson phone worked with it Mar 03 17:28:37 dial via BT "headset" ?? never heard of that Mar 03 17:29:52 docscrutinizer dial via bt headset (laptop) Mar 03 17:30:03 alabd: yes but can you use two laptops? Mar 03 17:30:17 I honestly doubt that laptop&SE-phone is using SCP or similar BT profile Mar 03 17:30:21 why 2 laptop ? Mar 03 17:30:39 alabd: then you have full control of both sides Mar 03 17:30:40 docscrutinizer you can do it with that app Mar 03 17:30:59 alabd: and we can all watch dumps of bluetooth traffic Mar 03 17:31:01 lindi-: one side should be phone Mar 03 17:31:08 nope you obviously can't - otherwise it would work with FR Mar 03 17:31:17 alabd: but my laptop can use a bluetooth headset Mar 03 17:31:41 alabd: FR is no phone, FR is a small laptop Mar 03 17:31:43 lindi-: yes that is possible got it Mar 03 17:31:58 alabd: would make a pretty interesting test case Mar 03 17:32:34 lindi-: didn't do for 2 laptop test it Mar 03 17:33:42 docscrutinizer this worked > a sony ericson phone with a bt headset (laptop) Mar 03 17:33:54 pretty obviously a alsa/PA-plugin from bluez (on FR) isn't capable of issuing any dial commands to the modem Mar 03 17:34:18 AT... Mar 03 17:34:27 how about ATD... ? Mar 03 17:34:47 alabd: what makes you think that laptop used a headset profile (SCO / A2DP) with SEphone? Mar 03 17:35:15 alabd: AT, via ALSA soundcard?? Mar 03 17:35:26 think ? Mar 03 17:35:45 could possible to talk and dial from laptop Mar 03 17:36:29 phone was sony ericson Mar 03 17:36:46 but with FR as phone did not worked why docScrutinizer? Mar 03 17:37:58 alabd: there is no software to do that on FR currently Mar 03 17:38:28 alabd: please, listen to what I say! I guess the bluez alsa plugin on FR doesn't know how (or isn't configured to) handle any ATxxx commands to the modem. AFAIK it's a mere soundcard plugin Mar 03 17:39:18 who would know him ? Mar 03 17:39:20 HFP isn't implement for FSO Mar 03 17:39:40 Heinervdm: it is Mar 03 17:39:49 No it isn't Mar 03 17:40:14 there was a patch on bluez ML last week, but that's not upstream till now Mar 03 17:40:26 in this file HFP is true /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf Mar 03 17:41:33 doesn't help as long as fsogsmd & relatives doesn't support it Mar 03 17:41:41 alabd: without this it can't work with FSO: http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=126735105604914&w=2 Mar 03 17:43:11 Heinervdm: how about this Mar 03 17:43:12 alabd: please, listen to what I say! I guess the bluez alsa plugin on FR doesn't know how (or isn't configured to) handle any ATxxx commands to the modem. AFAIK it's a mere soundcard plugin Mar 03 17:43:28 this reminds me of when i was using my laptop as headset for my SEt610 using floAt's Mobile Agent Mar 03 17:45:18 sicu: floAt's Mobile Agent ? Mar 03 17:45:36 Heinervdm: you mean with this patch it would work http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=126735105604914&w=2 ? Mar 03 17:46:28 alabd: perhaps, i haven't tried it. But you have to compile bluez with a special configure option Mar 03 17:46:57 Heinervdm: would you guide ? am not developer Mar 03 17:47:03 alabd: http://fma.sourceforge.net/ Mar 03 17:48:27 alabd: it was for windoze though Mar 03 17:48:32 sicu: will it work with fr ? Mar 03 17:50:15 alabd: you have to apply that patch and then run configure with --with-telephony=fso Mar 03 17:50:24 alabd: no idea, there hasn't been any development on fma in years Mar 03 17:50:49 but without a build env for the FR you won't get it Mar 03 17:51:25 s/ye/3 ye/ Mar 03 17:51:26 sicu meant: alabd: no idea, there hasn't been any development on fma in 3 years Mar 03 17:51:49 Heinervdm: fma also requires that patch ? Mar 03 17:52:05 sicu: have you used it in linux or win? Mar 03 17:52:09 alabd: i don't know what fma is Mar 03 17:52:29 alabd: but almost everything needs to be implemented before it will work Mar 03 17:52:38 alabd: i said earlier it was for windows Mar 03 17:53:31 Heinervdm: http://fma.sourceforge.net/ is the one sicu have used some years ago Mar 03 17:56:01 sicu: congrats! now go ahead and port it to FR for alabd - will you? :-P Mar 03 17:56:35 docscrutinizer am not programmer at all Mar 03 18:01:37 DocScrutinizer: aye aye sir! as soon as i find myself at a point in life where i have spare time in abundance ;p Mar 03 18:03:19 though i'm not overly keen on reading through all that delphi code, so i think i'll pass Mar 03 18:07:07 mrmoku|away, ping Mar 03 18:09:07 how to to apply this patch ? http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=126735105604914&w=2 Mar 03 18:10:03 docScrutinizer fma was for win Mar 03 18:10:24 orly? Mar 03 18:11:19 what ? Mar 03 18:11:31 nevermind Mar 03 18:12:01 how to to apply this patch ? http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=126735105604914&w=2 docScrutinizer ? Mar 03 18:14:29 [2010-03-03 18:50:15] alabd: you have to apply that patch and then run configure with --with-telephony=fso [2010-03-03 18:50:49] but without a build env for the FR you won't get it Mar 03 18:15:16 also you'll need to read about "man patch" Mar 03 18:15:24 docScrutinizer ok how to apply ? and how to build env ? what is env Mar 03 18:16:19 Heinervdm: is it ok ? patch -pnum hehe, /me goes for a cup of coffee Mar 03 18:18:21 alabd: you have to replace "num" with some number, depends on where you are executing this command Mar 03 18:19:07 Heinervdm: where is better ? and what's num Mar 03 18:19:23 but, no matter 'where' you are, you need to be in a development environment Mar 03 18:19:36 alabd: do you have sth to cross compile? Mar 03 18:20:03 alabd: else you don't have a chance to run it on the FR Mar 03 18:20:21 sth to cross compile ? Mar 03 18:20:40 tollchain, bitbake enviroment, ... Mar 03 18:20:44 tool Mar 03 18:21:08 where to get them ? Mar 03 18:22:01 alabd: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR for SHR Mar 03 18:22:14 shr-testing it is Mar 03 18:22:37 oh you mean humble should build shr from first Heinervdm ? Mar 03 18:23:25 alabd: yes. this is a sourcode patch Mar 03 18:23:26 you don't need complete shr, but you need all depencies of bluez (kernel, gcc, eglibc, ...) Mar 03 18:25:50 alabd: i think you should just wait, till that patch wen't upstream Mar 03 18:25:54 probably you could ask for the patch to be included into next SHR build some of the next days Mar 03 18:26:15 Heinervdm: can not be patched to the existed shr ? Mar 03 18:27:31 alabd: it's a bit complicated to do all this stuff, and you don't know if it will work in the end. Because nobody has tested that patch till now (don't know if the author has tried it for real...) Mar 03 18:28:32 Heinervdm: can not be patched to the existed shr ? Mar 03 18:29:15 sorry Mar 03 18:29:20 my bad Mar 03 18:29:27 maybe it can be applied to next shr-testing build ? Mar 03 18:29:42 one has to try it first Mar 03 18:29:44 maybe to next unstable Mar 03 18:30:30 ok and if it works app on laptop can dial ? Mar 03 18:30:43 probably yes Mar 03 18:30:51 i can try to build bluez with that patch for you, but i have to go now Mar 03 18:31:00 so humble should ask to test on ML Mar 03 18:31:51 Heinervdm: thanks a lot so when can it be got Mar 03 18:32:13 alabd: i will build it tomorow Mar 03 18:32:23 hello all Mar 03 18:32:35 what does not work now on illume2? Mar 03 18:33:33 docscrutinizer thank you too Mar 03 18:36:07 pbaxter: ciao :) do you use shr-u? Mar 03 18:36:59 zeusone, no (italian in pm) Mar 03 18:56:28 did someone used debug board sucessfully with mac os x? Mar 03 19:23:17 TAsn: pong Mar 03 19:23:29 ffs backlight died on my notebook :/ Mar 03 19:24:25 :P Mar 03 19:24:27 pm Mar 03 19:29:07 mickey|zzZZzz, ping :P Mar 03 19:29:13 TAsn: latest EFL same issue :/ Mar 03 19:29:20 JaMa, figured Mar 03 19:29:25 TAsn: 2 new theories Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Mar 03 19:29:34 TAsn: and just font config Mar 03 19:29:42 JaMa, locale not supported by Xlib <--- possible Mar 03 19:29:53 locale set to C and just font config <--- no possible Mar 03 19:29:56 not* Mar 03 19:30:04 and what I think is most probable Mar 03 19:30:10 the change in e ruined everything Mar 03 19:30:12 sec, will read log Mar 03 19:30:15 TAsn: if I check e17->settings->fonts-> then box with example shows only boxes insted letters Mar 03 19:30:25 for national characters.. Mar 03 19:30:51 TAsn: this about Xlib I see when sending output to Xephyr on my desktop.. Mar 03 19:30:56 JaMa, I can see utf8 Mar 03 19:31:06 JaMa, tried asking in OE? :P Mar 03 19:31:13 I just can't enter utf8 Mar 03 19:31:17 so I doubt it's a font issue Mar 03 19:33:16 TAsn: so you see utf8 ok in that font settings menu? Mar 03 19:33:21 TAsn: I don't Mar 03 19:33:24 no idea Mar 03 19:33:29 I see utf8 ok in apps Mar 03 19:33:38 TAsn: didn't ask in #oe as I still expect it's "our" fault Mar 03 19:33:51 maybe someone else also experienced this Mar 03 19:34:17 and maybe edevel would be better place to start :) Mar 03 19:34:43 * JaMa doesn't have any efl based app on desktop to try it :/ Mar 03 19:35:12 but on desktop I also have all fonts with proper utf8 rendering in that settings page Mar 03 19:35:51 Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default Mar 03 19:35:57 Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Mar 03 19:37:02 r45790 | englebass | 2010-02-02 06:49:38 +0200 (Tue, 02 Feb 2010) | 1 line Mar 03 19:37:02 copy ecore_txt_convert to eina_str_convert Mar 03 19:37:06 I think this is the broken commit Mar 03 19:37:22 Move ecore_str and ecore_strbuf to eina Mar 03 19:37:25 that as well ^ Mar 03 19:37:48 JaMa, do you have a list of all the e revs we used in the past? Mar 03 19:38:57 TAsn: like last 8, yes? Mar 03 19:39:05 something like that Mar 03 19:39:09 and dates (if you can provide) Mar 03 19:39:55 as I think it started here: r45650 | englebass | 2010-01-27 22:47:47 +0200 (Wed, 27 Jan 2010) Mar 03 19:39:57 svnr46111 svnr46275 svnr46384 svnr46424 svnr46425 svnr46486 svnr46510 svnr46747 Mar 03 19:40:07 mmt dates Mar 03 19:40:10 you bump too much Mar 03 19:40:12 nvm dates Mar 03 19:40:14 all new Mar 03 19:40:34 do you have any older lists? :P Mar 03 19:40:40 maybe from git? Mar 03 19:41:18 where is it at? Mar 03 19:41:25 (what file) Mar 03 19:42:14 TAsn: http://www.pastebin.cz/33249 Mar 03 19:42:22 thanks Mar 03 19:42:32 I'm listing my stamps from bitbake Mar 03 19:42:50 can't you go back even more? :P Mar 03 19:43:56 TAsn: http://www.pastebin.cz/33250 Mar 03 19:44:15 great! :P Mar 03 19:44:19 thanks Mar 03 19:44:35 even more back would be a bit of work.. so this needs to be enough :) Mar 03 19:44:39 nah Mar 03 19:44:41 this is great Mar 03 19:44:46 so it seems Mar 03 19:44:48 start of feb Mar 03 19:44:59 the issue I'm suspecting should have surfaced Mar 03 19:45:13 TAsn: btw does shr-t have this issue? Mar 03 19:45:23 TAsn: there is maybe quite new srcrev Mar 03 19:45:28 Feb 8 svnr45902 Mar 03 19:45:39 this is probably the first broken build Mar 03 19:45:51 I don't know then I upgraded though Mar 03 19:46:00 and why no one noticed it until recently Mar 03 19:46:23 * JaMa never writes utf8 characters in sms.. Mar 03 19:46:30 always only ascii Mar 03 19:46:52 :P Mar 03 19:47:01 TAsn: didn't quite follow that discussion... you can't insert UTF-8 into SMS? Mar 03 19:47:09 yes Mar 03 19:47:09 * mrmoku can do that Mar 03 19:47:18 latest opkg upgrade? Mar 03 19:47:19 actually I hatest ascii >128 :) breaking possibility to put 2 chars in one byte :/ Mar 03 19:47:20 at least what the number keyboard offers Mar 03 19:47:27 s/hatest/hate/ Mar 03 19:47:27 JaMa meant: actually I hate ascii >128 :) breaking possibility to put 2 chars in one byte :/ Mar 03 19:47:27 no, not latest upgrade Mar 03 19:47:31 mrmoku, that's good enough Mar 03 19:47:34 mrmoku, please: Mar 03 19:47:39 opkg list_installed > tasn.txt Mar 03 19:47:43 and then opkg upgrade Mar 03 19:47:43 :P Mar 03 19:47:51 yeah, moment Mar 03 19:47:55 and before that Mar 03 19:47:57 actually Mar 03 19:48:23 mrmoku: you have to test it in some efl based app Mar 03 19:48:47 mrmoku: I tried in terminal and it worked and TAsn said I'm noob.. so I'm warning you before :) Mar 03 19:50:28 I tested in our SMS app... so I'm no noob this time :P Mar 03 19:52:21 * JaMa off Mar 03 19:53:27 TAsn: sent Mar 03 19:57:29 mrmoku, thanks Mar 03 19:57:33 and please upgrade Mar 03 19:57:38 and see if it still works afterwards :P Mar 03 19:57:54 * mrmoku goes and bricks his phone :;P Mar 03 19:58:24 you are a real sport :P Mar 03 19:58:26 mrmoku: point me to shr-makefile plz Mar 03 20:00:31 Q-Master: build.shr-project.org/Makefile Mar 03 20:01:40 ертч Mar 03 20:01:42 ертч Mar 03 20:01:58 thanks Mar 03 20:02:02 TAsn: just for the record... I'm still on old illume Mar 03 20:02:04 Q-Master: np Mar 03 20:02:25 actually Mar 03 20:02:29 it's a very important record Mar 03 20:02:40 * TAsn is trying old illume as well Mar 03 20:02:41 sec Mar 03 20:02:43 :;P Mar 03 20:03:37 while I'm trying on illume2 Mar 03 20:03:41 *1 Mar 03 20:03:44 mind trying on 2? Mar 03 20:03:53 well... upgrade is still running Mar 03 20:04:15 when it finished I will reboot and re-try 1 Mar 03 20:04:20 if it still works I will try 2 ok Mar 03 20:04:25 nope Mar 03 20:04:26 broken Mar 03 20:05:47 btw, you got the same e as me Mar 03 20:05:52 mrmoku, locale -a pleaes Mar 03 20:05:55 please Mar 03 20:07:25 "Ecore now goes clean on -Wall -Wextra :-)" Mar 03 20:07:38 mrmoku, They also (finally) did great work on this subject :P Mar 03 20:07:55 heh, nice Mar 03 20:07:59 still works btw. Mar 03 20:08:21 root@om-gta02 ~ $ locale -a Mar 03 20:08:21 C Mar 03 20:08:21 en_US Mar 03 20:08:21 POSIX Mar 03 20:08:50 well you had a very new e Mar 03 20:09:02 i.e "an already broken one" Mar 03 20:09:08 so I guess it's not e after all Mar 03 20:09:14 try with illume2 for a sec please Mar 03 20:09:18 yup Mar 03 20:11:17 TAsn: works too Mar 03 20:11:28 * TAsn hates mrmoku Mar 03 20:11:43 heh, and I don't even need them :P Mar 03 20:13:09 we have a saying here Mar 03 20:13:18 god gives nuts to those with no teeth Mar 03 20:13:49 :P Mar 03 20:16:07 I don't need nuts... I need a backlight ;) Mar 03 20:19:28 hehe Mar 03 20:34:50 mrmoku, I changed the theme Mar 03 20:34:51 of illume-home Mar 03 20:34:57 but now it's in a different module Mar 03 20:35:12 so I guess the current generic recipe won't work Mar 03 20:35:24 got any suggestions? Mar 03 20:35:59 hmm Mar 03 20:36:13 * mrmoku takes a look Mar 03 20:36:57 Any GTK+ programmers here who can tell me how you add icons to your GTK+ apps? Would depending on libgnomeui be bad for an OpenMOko app? Mar 03 20:37:00 didn't commit anything Mar 03 20:37:27 thrashold, I think so Mar 03 20:37:32 as it's a dep we don't yet use Mar 03 20:37:33 thrashold: please don't write openmoko-only apps :) Mar 03 20:37:35 and more deps = bad Mar 03 20:37:49 lindi-, he's writing an openmoko oriented app :P Mar 03 20:38:09 no only Mar 03 20:38:10 lindi-: I'm writing on my Debian desktop, and then testing with Debian on my phone too :D Mar 03 20:38:13 not* Mar 03 20:38:51 But I'm trying to replace things like MOKO_STOCK_MAIL_NEW Mar 03 20:40:31 TAsn: where is it installed to? Mar 03 20:40:44 no idea Mar 03 20:40:49 I know where it should be installed to Mar 03 20:40:54 maybe it works, no idea Mar 03 20:41:07 it's installed to Mar 03 20:41:17 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ Mar 03 20:41:20 or something like that Mar 03 20:41:41 but I'm not 100% sure that's the proper place for e-module-illume-home.edj (atm it's not there) Mar 03 20:41:56 hmm.. no idea neither Mar 03 20:42:10 I guess we should probably test it or something Mar 03 20:42:12 whatever :P Mar 03 20:46:16 I get my own code when I google for my problem. And it is exactlyt the code that doesn't work. :( Mar 03 20:46:24 JaMa, so it appears that the issue with input is in new images Mar 03 20:46:35 thrashold, then write working code Mar 03 20:46:41 and then google will give you good results Mar 03 20:46:42 ... Mar 03 20:46:47 duh Mar 03 20:47:06 JaMa, maybe something went broken in the build, please consider clearing everything Mar 03 20:47:12 and then rebuilding everytihng Mar 03 20:48:08 can I ask to push my estardict bb :P Mar 03 20:48:45 zeusone, not committed yet? Mar 03 20:48:57 TAsn no :( Mar 03 20:49:13 TAsn at least I didn't see Mar 03 20:49:31 zeusone, :| Mar 03 20:49:36 JaMa, ^ Mar 03 20:49:46 TAsn: is this http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/log/?h=shr/unstable right? Mar 03 20:49:58 no idea Mar 03 20:50:02 :) Mar 03 20:50:03 I don't even have commit access there Mar 03 20:50:06 I don't do OE :P Mar 03 20:50:13 oh ok Mar 03 20:50:27 JaMa, !!! I know what's different, and may be the cause Mar 03 20:50:31 kernel modules! Mar 03 20:50:53 mrmoku, please give me opkg list_installed of your "after upgrade" Mar 03 20:52:26 Can any GTK+ programmer tell me if this is correct: gtk_image_new_from_icon_name ("mail-message-new", GTK_ICON_SIZE_LARGE_TOOLBAR) Mar 03 20:53:34 I think #gtk+ Mar 03 20:53:40 is a better place to ask at Mar 03 20:53:46 I don't think anyone here does gtk :P Mar 03 20:54:21 * TAsn is trying kernel modules Mar 03 20:54:33 Well, already asked at #gtk+ at gimpnet :) Mar 03 20:57:20 actually not trying Mar 03 20:57:29 actually will try Mar 03 20:59:11 mrmoku, trying Mar 03 20:59:15 mine Mar 03 20:59:17 and comparing Mar 03 21:23:09 * Weiss notes that practically all of the remaining slowness of the unlock slider (with KMS+2.6.32) is down to how quickly phoneuid can provide the data Mar 03 21:23:44 wiedi: what kind of program is that unlock slider? Mar 03 21:23:55 it's phoneuid Mar 03 21:24:26 or at least, that's what's taking up CPU time while sliding Mar 03 21:24:47 (i.e. not Xorg) Mar 03 21:24:57 hmm.. actually that's not true Mar 03 21:26:45 * Weiss takes that back Mar 03 21:35:50 uuh, unlock slider. That was one of the patents that Apple sued HTC for... Mar 03 21:36:09 just couple of days ago Mar 03 21:50:48 * lindi- has a non-X unlock mechanism :) Mar 03 21:58:54 yay Mar 03 21:59:00 "the wall" on tv :P Mar 03 21:59:26 is on* Mar 03 22:21:53 spaetz: indeed.. :S Mar 03 22:22:08 actually I prefer a simple press-to-lock, press again to unlock AUX button thing Mar 03 22:22:23 the slider slows me down unnecessarily, even if it is "slick" Mar 03 23:22:37 TAsn: "21:47:39 < TAsn> JaMa, maybe something went broken in the build, please consider clearing everything" Mar 03 23:22:40 TAsn: something? Mar 03 23:22:53 TAsn: nothing compiles fine since last crash.. Mar 03 23:23:13 TAsn: bearstech guys already tried fsck/python upgrade Mar 03 23:24:01 TAsn: but it still segfaults everywhere.. I cannot even finish that last rebuild because of that.. so no now rebuild from scratch on that machine, before resolving that somehow :/ Mar 03 23:24:34 TAsn: and I have the same issue with my images built here Mar 03 23:25:05 TAsn: so mrmoku's working version is more anomaly then broken version from shr buildhost :/ Mar 03 23:26:10 TAsn: today's stats :/ Mar 03 23:26:11 shr@opmbuild:~/shr-unstable$ dmesg | grep -c "general protection" Mar 03 23:26:11 13 Mar 03 23:26:11 shr@opmbuild:~/shr-unstable$ dmesg | grep -c segfault Mar 03 23:26:11 43 Mar 03 23:40:58 TAsn: the sliders in quick-settings overlap the last letter of the labels to the left Mar 03 23:44:24 TAsn: and the slider toggles in quick-settings are reversed when comparared to shr-settings Mar 03 23:56:07 perhaps stick to one way of using the sliders, though i'm not sure as to which makes more sense Mar 04 00:01:34 'Off' revealed in the slider = off (as in shr-settings), or slide towards 'Off' = off (as in quick settings) Mar 04 00:02:05 personally i'd vote for the latter **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 04 02:59:58 2010