**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 07 02:59:58 2010 Mar 07 04:38:17 anyone know how to re sync the lcd and touchscreen orientation Mar 07 04:38:42 xrandr? Mar 07 04:38:48 gta01 images seem to have it out of sync Mar 07 04:44:38 amybody details on the ts-calibration and that notorious "rotate" that crept in there occasionally Mar 07 04:44:41 ? Mar 07 04:48:01 Psi: 5:47 Sunday morning, here in EU. You should come back in now+8 to now+12 Mar 07 04:48:16 yeah Mar 07 04:48:29 its ok for now, ive managed to get it recalibrated using xinput_calibrator Mar 07 04:48:50 heh :-P Mar 07 04:48:52 its abit tricky tho cos you have to click in the wrong places that it prompts you to Mar 07 04:49:16 and the little + doesnt appear for those places until your supposed to click them Mar 07 04:49:16 that's probably what any other savvy devel had told you as well Mar 07 04:49:33 impossible to get it accurate that way due to reason above Mar 07 04:49:57 but its working Mar 07 04:50:18 file a bug Mar 07 04:50:23 good idea Mar 07 04:50:29 * Psi does that Mar 07 04:50:52 ts_calib is a bot, to be kind with it Mar 07 04:51:00 botch Mar 07 08:15:54 good morning Mar 07 08:45:15 a question Mar 07 08:45:29 to launch xboard I need to digit a long string Mar 07 08:45:39 I would like to put it in a script and I did it Mar 07 08:45:51 but the result is that it can't find gnuchess Mar 07 08:45:55 like this Mar 07 08:46:03 xboard -size Average -font 6x13 -coordFont 6x13 -clockFont 6x13 -fcp Mar 07 08:46:03 "/usr/bin/gnuchess -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-" Mar 07 08:46:05 result is: Mar 07 08:46:23 /usr/bin/gc: line 4: /usr/bin/gnuchess -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-: not found Mar 07 08:46:46 how can I write that line in the right way so it is able to detect the command? Mar 07 08:47:02 (yes gnuchess is executable and in the right dir) Mar 07 08:49:50 probably leave out the " Mar 07 08:52:50 Psi: why do you have to click in wrong places? Mar 07 08:56:38 DocScrutinizer, I tried, same result Mar 07 08:57:04 well no, not same result Mar 07 08:57:09 it runs gnuchess instead Mar 07 08:57:44 gra_laptop: quite strange. A not-found error msg schould not quote the whole list of parameters Mar 07 09:01:32 gra_laptop: would an intentionally misspelled cmd (like /usr/bin/gnuchesxx -b...) help to get a different errormsg that might give a clue about the root error? Mar 07 09:02:00 trying... Mar 07 09:02:24 same error: Mar 07 09:02:32 /usr/bin/gc: line 4: /usr/bin/gnuchess -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-: not found Mar 07 09:02:33 strange Mar 07 09:03:00 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 135368 Dec 8 00:03 gnuchess Mar 07 09:03:50 JaMa|Off: because the touchscreen is in landscape mode Mar 07 09:04:14 really strange. I'd think you should get " /usr/bin/gc: line 4: /usr/bin/gnuchesXX -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-: not found" instead Mar 07 09:05:37 JaMa|Off: and im viewing the lcd in portrait as normal, so to get the touchscreen calibration correct you need to click the corners in a different order to what the calibration app expects Mar 07 09:05:42 gra_laptop: don't you think the script you're executing isn't exactly the one where you s/gnuchess/gnuchesXX/ ? Mar 07 09:06:10 DocScrutinizer, sorry I pasted the wrong error Mar 07 09:06:26 /usr/bin/gc: line 4: /usr/bin/gnuchexx -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-: not found Mar 07 09:07:26 insert a 'ls -l /usrbin/gnuchess' just befor the call to gnuchess Mar 07 09:08:07 gra_laptop: You may want to pastebin it, so context can be seen Mar 07 09:09:15 uh oh, I missed an error message: Mar 07 09:09:16 xboard: unrecognized argument -fcp Mar 07 09:09:37 strange, if I wrote the same line by myself it runs Mar 07 09:09:56 DocScrutinizer, for the record, it before lists using ls: Mar 07 09:10:04 xboard: unrecognized argument -fcp Mar 07 09:10:06 no Mar 07 09:10:31 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 135368 Dec 8 00:03 /usr/bin/gnuchess Mar 07 09:10:42 so, a summary Mar 07 09:10:50 I want to play xboard+gnuchess Mar 07 09:11:01 I can if I digit on the terminal by myself this command Mar 07 09:11:15 gra_laptop, in the opkg.org there was an explanation on how to run it Mar 07 09:11:18 I remember doing it Mar 07 09:11:36 TAsn, I know how to run it Mar 07 09:11:43 I can if I digit on the terminal by myself this command Mar 07 09:11:45 xboard -size Average -font 6x13 -coordFont 6x13 -clockFont 6x13 -fcp "/usr/bin/gnuchexx -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-" Mar 07 09:12:05 but the command is too long so I would like to do an sh script to run it, I called the script file simply "gc" Mar 07 09:12:14 the script is a simple: Mar 07 09:12:23 #!/bin/sh Mar 07 09:12:29 so aiui gnuchess is an argument to xboard (which makes sense) Mar 07 09:12:31 and the long command I pasted you above Mar 07 09:12:46 in your script it seems to be s separate line Mar 07 09:12:53 btw Mar 07 09:13:03 I don't have gnuchessxx I only have gnuchess Mar 07 09:13:06 (here) Mar 07 09:13:09 me too Mar 07 09:13:13 that was a test we did Mar 07 09:13:17 found it Mar 07 09:13:25 as DocScrutinizer said they were on different lines Mar 07 09:13:45 mmm Mar 07 09:13:49 now it exits with "broken pipe" Mar 07 09:15:07 nothing Mar 07 09:15:08 my fault Mar 07 09:15:21 xboard -size Average -font 6x13 -coordFont 6x13 -clockFont 6x Mar 07 09:15:21 13 -fcp "/usr/bin/gnuchess -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-" Mar 07 09:15:24 works great for me Mar 07 09:15:29 (without the newline)\ Mar 07 09:15:39 yeah Mar 07 09:16:00 ok ok my fault, it works now Mar 07 09:32:21 another question Mar 07 09:33:00 where should I look for the gnu chess desktop icon, if it installed one? Mar 07 09:33:45 = which is another way to ask: I would like this program to have a desktop icon, where can I find information about how to manually add one Mar 07 09:34:09 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customize_Application_Icons Mar 07 09:34:09 ? Mar 07 09:34:32 /usr/share/pixmaps/ Mar 07 09:34:33 ok Mar 07 09:34:54 The .desktop files are in /usr/share/applications Mar 07 09:47:21 ok I am trying to create the gnuchess.desktop text file to launch the game but I miss what I should write here: Mar 07 09:47:32 Exec= Mar 07 09:47:45 mokomaze has: Mar 07 09:47:46 Exec=fsoraw -r Display mokomaze Mar 07 09:51:55 well I could just write /usr/bin/gnuchess.sh Mar 07 09:52:46 yes Mar 07 10:00:06 gra_laptop, or you could use xboard -size Average -font 6x13 -coordFont 6x13 -clockFont 6x13 -fcp "/usr/bin/gnuchexx -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p-" Mar 07 10:00:25 for the Exec= Mar 07 10:00:59 spaetz, thanks I put together a good gnuchess icon, .desktop file and .sh script with the right command Mar 07 10:01:01 testing it now Mar 07 10:01:30 wow it works :) Mar 07 10:01:52 icon is displayed in home screen, touching it starts the game without errors Mar 07 10:02:32 spaetz, if I send you the tarball of those things, is there a chance you could integrate them in shr testing some way? Mar 07 10:03:49 have JaMa or Heinervdm put it in hr-unstable, the I can pull it over to shr-t Mar 07 10:03:59 ok thanks Mar 07 10:04:00 then I... Mar 07 10:04:42 JaMa|Off, Heinervdm could you provide me an email address where I could send you the tarball? Mar 07 10:11:12 (I also have the right command to launch pingus to make it run in shr-t, already tested and it works) Mar 07 10:11:38 very little contributions for now, I hope to do more in the future Mar 07 10:16:07 gra_laptop: can't you move the command from the .sh to the .desktop? Mar 07 10:16:34 yes I think so Mar 07 10:17:11 that would be better Mar 07 10:17:26 sure, let me try Mar 07 10:23:52 Heinervdm, it gives me an application execution error in that way Mar 07 10:24:59 "An exit code of 2 was returned from /usr/bin/xboard -size Average -font 6x13 -coordFont 6x13 -clockFont " Mar 07 10:27:55 try to escape " with \" Mar 07 10:30:26 mmm Mar 07 10:31:14 xboard -size Average -font 6x13 -coordFont 6x13 -clockFont 6x13 -fcp "/usr/bin/gnuchexx -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p- \" Mar 07 10:31:18 this way ^ ? Mar 07 10:37:57 you have to escape both " Mar 07 10:38:58 Heinervdm, could you paste me the right line please? Mar 07 10:39:12 I would like to get if it works before I go Mar 07 10:39:25 xboard -size Average -font 6x13 -coordFont 6x13 -clockFont 6x13 -fcp \"/usr/bin/gnuchexx -b- -e 100 -l- -f 1 -p- \" Mar 07 10:39:39 thanks, trying.. Mar 07 10:42:12 spaetz: that's wrong: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?h=shr/unstable&id=5b51c0a7b8a47ee725f3745105f0307afc542d83 ffalarms is looking in different locations for scenarii Mar 07 10:43:33 public const string[] ALSASTATE_PATH = { "/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios", "/usr/share/shr/scenarii" }; Mar 07 10:44:03 it keeps crashing Mar 07 10:44:53 gra_laptop: strange Mar 07 10:45:01 have to go now Mar 07 10:45:04 will reconnect later Mar 07 10:45:05 bye Mar 07 10:46:34 Heinervdm, all I know is that I go errors when only using the fsodeviced state files Mar 07 10:46:51 and with shrr-alsa-scenarii it worked Mar 07 10:47:27 /usr/share/openmoko sounds like an obsolete path... Mar 07 10:47:28 spaetz: that's because fsodeviced doesn't provide real state files Mar 07 10:48:10 right, it´s using those new format files.... Mar 07 10:48:38 so ffalarms should adopt the new way of statefiles Mar 07 10:48:54 ok, so we just need to keep providing the state files or make ffalarms cope with the new format.... Mar 07 10:49:06 because using the old ones is insane Mar 07 10:49:16 i agree Mar 07 11:01:56 lupan already said that he will check it soon.. and he was looking for a better way to use the API than what he seen first.. Mar 07 11:02:25 NOTE: Running task 12100 of 12884 :) Mar 07 11:02:43 JaMa|Off: i think you should also switch to FSO Alarms API Mar 07 11:03:04 JaMa|Off: with shr/unstable? Mar 07 11:03:22 for me there is still gtk+ not compiling Mar 07 11:05:59 hi all Mar 07 11:08:30 Heinervdm: ? which app should switch to FSO Alarms API? Mar 07 11:08:58 Heinervdm: there is patch for gtk+native on oe-devel from XorA.. you can try it Mar 07 11:09:27 and the running task is still shr-u feed Mar 07 11:10:12 shr-t: NOTE: Running task 7793 of 12884 Mar 07 11:11:06 JaMa will be the new packages also in shr-t? Mar 07 11:12:08 and here is list of failed packages: http://pastebin.ca/1826753 Mar 07 11:12:27 zeusone: estardict? yes Mar 07 11:12:51 JaMa good :D Mar 07 11:12:56 zeusone: shr-t == shr-u - few_hours now Mar 07 11:13:15 JaMa nice equation :D Mar 07 11:46:36 hmmm... is there any known reason why X wont start for me now in SHR? The only EE in Xorg I can see is PreInit returned NULL for "Power Button" Mar 07 11:46:57 what's in log? Mar 07 11:47:14 Xorg.0.log? Mar 07 11:47:29 yep Mar 07 11:50:09 JaMa|Off: As I say the only EE I see is the PreInit. I've pastebin'd here: http://pastebin.ca/1826812 Problem is I'm not sure what a GOOD log looks like on the FR :P Mar 07 11:50:44 JaMa|Off: FWIW I managed to get all the SHR build stuff working this week (from home, no proxy :P) Thanks again for your help last week. Mar 07 11:51:11 I'm starting to understand the whole OE build "machine" now :D Mar 07 11:51:50 krayon: this is perfectly normal log Mar 07 11:51:56 :( Mar 07 11:52:16 so it just quits, or does it fails somehow? Mar 07 11:52:26 ie if you run it Xorg -verbose 8 & Mar 07 11:54:29 /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm starts but then the X dies. Running Xorg as above it just sits there after 'XINPUT: Adding extended input device "" (type: KEYBOARD)' Mar 07 11:54:46 The screen changes from text to all black with nothing on it (that I can see) Mar 07 11:55:29 krayon: then run enlightenment_start.oe Mar 07 11:55:42 and check if it dies while starting e17 Mar 07 11:57:54 :S It started. And is running but ... things have changed. Font sizes seem all messed up, buttons at the bottom off center. Mar 07 11:58:10 hmm, calibration seems off too Mar 07 11:58:58 that's normal Mar 07 11:59:14 as you didn't specify -dpi as xserver-nodm does Mar 07 11:59:20 Ah, yeah of course. Mar 07 11:59:31 and also didn't run /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89xTs_Calibrate Mar 07 11:59:48 you can calibrate running seesion by executing this file :) Mar 07 12:00:05 Well, I guess I can track it down then :D X is starting it would seem, just not WM/DM Mar 07 12:00:24 so e17 didn't start? Mar 07 12:00:31 It did. Mar 07 12:00:39 then killall Xorg Mar 07 12:00:46 and try it again with xserver-nodm Mar 07 12:02:29 dos1: hi, can you apply http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/676/ ? Mar 07 12:03:16 JaMa|Off: yup, doing that now Mar 07 12:03:27 * dos1 has to look at patchwork... didn't do that for ages ;o Mar 07 12:04:49 SHR: 03martin.jansa 07shr-settings * rc0315c80f323 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_passwd.py: shr_passwd: save password only if not empty Mar 07 12:05:45 :o Mar 07 12:06:04 JaMa|Off: I'm really sorry for wasting your time. It was something I put in my .bashrc to get around some busybox stuff :/ Mar 07 12:06:18 oh. nothing more for me in patchwork :) Mar 07 12:06:20 JaMa|Off: Didn't realise the whole .profile -> .bashrc part Mar 07 12:08:20 krayon: ok no problem.. good that it works for you Mar 07 12:09:24 I want to thank anyone in here involved with SHR :D I can't believe I have this little device running Linux, it's so awesome. I can see my netbooks getting less use now :P Mar 07 12:09:34 Everything works great too (except when I screw it up). Mar 07 12:10:19 I assume patches are welcome for the phone apps? I see a few bugs in trac I might be able to sink my teeth into :D Mar 07 12:11:40 patches are always welcome :) Mar 07 12:12:28 krayon: but sometimes is better to check the state of that problem here, before sinking your teeth (as sometimes better solution is already wip) Mar 07 12:32:02 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * rd1f1a8c15091 10/palmpre/openembedded-webos/ (8 files in 5 dirs): Mar 07 12:32:02 freesmartphone.org: palmpre/openembedded-webos: add initial toolchain to extract different packages from a webos rootfs Mar 07 12:32:02 freesmartphone.org: Please note: Most of this scripts are copied from http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=preware/cross-compile.git;a=summary Mar 07 12:32:02 freesmartphone.org: the famous cross-compile toolchain from the webos-internals boys. Mar 07 12:32:04 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * rc2b4e65829dc 10/palmpre/openembedded-webos/ (Makefile support/stage-rootfs.mk): palmpre/openembedded-webos: now we ship all package files Mar 07 12:32:04 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r05b4cfd20ae5 10/palmpre/openembedded-webos/ (4 files in 4 dirs): palmpre/openembedded-webos: add install script which install packages contents Mar 07 12:32:05 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * rdee06abc4cc4 10/palmpre/ (18 files in 10 dirs): palmpre: rename openembedded-webos to webos-libs Mar 07 12:36:28 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07zhone * r62ba841900ea 10/ (setup.py src/zhone-fsogsmd): Mar 07 12:36:29 freesmartphone.org: add zone-fsogsmd; this will be a fork of zhone talking to fsogsmd Mar 07 12:36:29 freesmartphone.org: instead of ogsmd Mar 07 12:40:38 Heinervdm: ping Mar 07 12:40:44 pong Mar 07 12:40:58 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07utilities * r3ccae0287e44 10/README: README++ Mar 07 12:40:58 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07utilities * r0db3b09cf508 10/.gitignore: add .gitignore Mar 07 12:41:18 Heinervdm: did you have a chance to look at gnuifying fastboot? i'd like to push that into our utilities repo asap Mar 07 12:43:50 mickeyl: i looked at it, but i'm not sure how to do it Mar 07 12:44:03 where's the problem? Mar 07 12:44:07 mickeyl: it depends on mkbootimg Mar 07 12:44:22 and on the lib used in mkbootimg Mar 07 12:45:03 so perhaps it would be best to put that lib in a seperate dir Mar 07 12:45:13 or one can do all in one Mar 07 12:47:05 hmm Mar 07 12:47:13 lets not make it too complicated Mar 07 12:47:21 lets put it into the mkbootimg project Mar 07 12:47:31 so just make a all in one? Mar 07 12:47:39 yeah Mar 07 12:47:54 ok Mar 07 12:48:03 i will try if it comiles Mar 07 12:48:22 and we make just a linux build? Mar 07 12:48:33 yep Mar 07 12:48:41 let others care about non-linux versions Mar 07 12:49:03 ok Mar 07 12:51:29 is this known issue of yesterdays shr-u? * opkg_download: Failed to download http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4/Packages.gz: HTTP response code said error. Mar 07 12:55:23 it's known for all Mar 07 12:55:45 i don't know why this is still in the configs Mar 07 13:06:19 back Mar 07 13:11:24 [2010-03-07 11:48:54] ok, so we just need to keep providing the state files or make ffalarms cope with the new format.... Mar 07 13:11:31 congrats :-/ Mar 07 13:11:40 to FSO? Mar 07 13:12:33 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07msmcomm * rda8fdbd7dbec 10/msmvterm/src/terminal.vala: msmvterm: use self-description of message Mar 07 13:14:38 DocScrutinizer, don't blame me for the file formats, I was not involved :) Mar 07 13:14:56 ack Mar 07 13:15:07 :) Mar 07 13:15:18 what is ffalarms doing with the file formats? Mar 07 13:15:24 does it not use fsodeviced to play sound? Mar 07 13:15:34 obviously not Mar 07 13:15:41 :( Mar 07 13:16:26 I guess there's a whole butload of apps that prefer to interface alsa directly rather than using fsodeviced Mar 07 13:16:46 probably Mar 07 13:17:44 and as I elaborated multiple times those apps need a similar fsoraw support like the ones that might want to keep display undimmed Mar 07 13:18:21 though those apps only need that support for the time they actually open a audio device (see ffalarms) Mar 07 13:18:31 mickeyl: not sure if this is after your intervention or shr folks changed some timings, but GSM registers now in 9 of 10 reboots :) thank you Mar 07 13:18:51 vanous123: glad to hear Mar 07 13:18:52 that's why paul and I built that generic cmdline execution interface for alsa hooks Mar 07 13:19:26 yeah, that sounds like a good way to integrate "audio legacy" apps Mar 07 13:19:30 which nobody ever took a glance at Mar 07 13:19:33 someone needs to write a hook then Mar 07 13:19:36 that calls back into fsodeviced Mar 07 13:21:00 and when it's not possible to change the scenario Mar 07 13:21:03 the opening need to fail Mar 07 13:21:07 is that possible? Mar 07 13:21:14 mickeyl: "somebody needs to write..."?? Paul and me DID Mar 07 13:21:55 hmm, you have a hook that calls org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SetScenario("steroout") ? Mar 07 13:22:03 it's executing an arbitrary cmdline, and if that cmd throws error, the alsa open fails Mar 07 13:22:19 ah, should add a call to mdbus2 then Mar 07 13:22:29 and mdbus2 needs to set the return code properly Mar 07 13:22:36 dunno whether it already does Mar 07 13:22:53 that'S up to you, I asked for a generic way to do such calls for alsa scenarii long ago Mar 07 13:25:29 I got the hooks lib here for alsa, that calls a cmdline on device open, and it calls a cmdline on device close. ALSA open blocks until cmdline returns, it fails when cmdline returns with != 0 return code Mar 07 13:28:08 nice, someone should start with the integration work then Mar 07 13:29:18 Heinervdm, I tested the way you told me but as you see I got an error, is there something wrong to put the .sh in the .desktop file? Mar 07 13:29:44 I mean is there something wrong to rely on a .sh script (e.g. it breaks some guideline or something like that) Mar 07 13:31:06 (integration work) well the bug we found in ALSA should be fixed by now in upstream Mar 07 13:31:14 graziano: i don't like wrapper scripts if it's just one command Mar 07 13:32:05 JaMa|Off: what do you think about what gra_laptop has written 3.5h ago? Mar 07 13:33:35 actually a single command to start a full app consisting of a server and a chessboard client looks rather sane to me Mar 07 13:33:54 so ++ for wrapper script here Mar 07 13:34:39 the only problem is that using a wrapper script it functions, giving the full command inside the .desktop file instead does not Mar 07 13:34:48 Heinervdm: well if it's so long single command then maybe additional wrapper can be usefull for people running apps from terminal, instead of desktop icons :) Mar 07 13:35:04 JaMa|Off: +1 Mar 07 13:35:55 then if you like the wrapper thing, could you provide me an email address where I could send my tarball containing desktop icon, .desktop file and .sh script? Mar 07 13:36:53 mickeyl: do you know libunz? I can't find it Mar 07 13:42:00 libunz? never heard about that one Mar 07 13:42:02 For SHR-u I got an error when building gtk+, something about an apple :S Mar 07 13:42:04 sounds like an unzip lib Mar 07 13:42:33 shr-u feeds rsynced, 7 recipes including mcnavi, ventura, mokoko, xchat, ruby, packagekit didn't make it.. Mar 07 13:42:53 Heinervdm: looks like they have a forked version of zlib Mar 07 13:42:55 krayon: read openembedded-devel list Mar 07 13:42:58 Heinervdm: check external_zlib Mar 07 13:43:26 mickeyl: yes, but i can't find libunz there tee Mar 07 13:43:28 too Mar 07 13:43:31 krayon you need the no demo patch Mar 07 13:43:49 von_fritz: Yeah I saw there was a change 2 days ago, "fixing it' Mar 07 13:43:55 or more proper fix from Graeme Mar 07 13:43:59 It didn't work for me though, I had to put it in gtk+.inc Mar 07 13:44:54 mickeyl: hmm, it comiles fine without libunz Mar 07 13:44:58 heh Mar 07 13:45:00 even better Mar 07 13:46:17 mickeyl: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/android.tar.gz Mar 07 13:47:00 Does "SRC_URI_append_virtclass-native" get appended to SRC_URI conditionally or something? Mar 07 13:47:30 Heinervdm: aweseom! Mar 07 13:47:30 yes only for gtk+-native Mar 07 13:47:31 krayon i have put file://no-demos.patch;patch=1 in gtk+.inc and it compiles now Mar 07 13:47:39 Heinervdm: I'll push this to the utilities branch and create bb recipes Mar 07 13:47:49 mickeyl: ok Mar 07 13:47:57 thanks Mar 07 13:47:59 von_fritz: Yes that's what I had to do. Is that in OE now? Mar 07 13:48:16 Hi!! I have an abort issue on shr-settings Mar 07 13:48:17 ValueError: evas.c_evas.Canvas has the wrong size, try recompiling Mar 07 13:48:23 von_fritz, krayon: right solution is http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg04381.html but do whateve you want :) Mar 07 13:48:30 in elementary Mar 07 13:49:10 von_fritz, krayon: more info in that bug and http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg04372.html Mar 07 13:50:29 freesmartphone.org: 03ml 07utilities * r4accb5a3b3d0 10/android/ (51 files in 10 dirs): android: add new build of image-utils; this time including fastboot Mar 07 13:50:58 JaMa|0ff thanks Mar 07 13:50:59 should I open a ticket or you are already fixing it? Mar 07 13:53:00 ok no objections, opening ticket Mar 07 13:54:24 ~lart python-efl Mar 07 13:54:25 * apt stuffs python-efl into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it Mar 07 14:04:11 mickeyl: would fsodeviced eventually supply a way to load scenarii based on a dbus call? I'd prefer to integrate an auto-recovering sheme like used for resource allocation by fsoraw - the implicit freeing of a allocated (scenario) resource when the dbus client is exiting Mar 07 14:05:41 hmm Mar 07 14:06:01 well, yeah, could add this logic into the PushScenario call Mar 07 14:06:11 so that a disappearing client triggers the PullScenario Mar 07 14:06:58 mickeyl: I also suggest to add an option fsodeviced sends a signal to the allocating app, on resource-unavailable (some higher priority scenario is getting allocated) Mar 07 14:07:51 the alocating app may specify the scenario, and the signal to send on resource-gone rsp resource-returned-to-normal Mar 07 14:08:16 the signal for stopping MP3-players temporarily etc Mar 07 14:08:41 I know a dbus signal would be much better Mar 07 14:08:48 if you use fsomusicd for playing you can use Push/PopPause for this purpose Mar 07 14:09:02 but I don't exactly see how to handle that on "my" side Mar 07 14:10:00 JaMa|Off, Heinervdm could you please provide me an email address where to send my contribution? I know it's only a small one but I have a draft mail since 6 hours :) Mar 07 14:10:11 the very basic thing would be to sigkill the app blocking a scenario which a higher priority app (e.g. playback ringtone) needs Mar 07 14:10:44 graziano: send it to shr-devel :) Mar 07 14:10:51 freesmartphone.org: 03felix.huber 07zhone * r809d0bfeadb4 10/src/zhone: Prepare fir new HFP phonebook API Mar 07 14:11:04 graziano: best way is to shr-devel list in form from git send-email from shr/unstable git repo Mar 07 14:12:29 HFP phonebook? Mar 07 14:13:22 yay Mar 07 14:13:28 ~praise prof.felix.huber Mar 07 14:13:29 All hail prof.felix.huber! Mar 07 14:14:39 HFP phonebook? Mar 07 14:15:06 some bluetooth stuff Mar 07 14:15:19 aaaaaaaaah Mar 07 14:15:27 ;) Mar 07 14:20:00 freesmartphone.org: 03felix.huber 07framework * r4d4641684459 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Implement HFP pbook retrieval, call indication and bluetooth autostart Mar 07 14:21:47 yo Mar 07 14:48:01 he's a prof? Mar 07 14:49:23 yes, has a Lehrauftrag somewhere Mar 07 14:49:43 but his day job is being head of that space department in DLR Mar 07 14:50:16 Ah then he is at UniBw in Munich Mar 07 14:50:36 I've writtem him because of his patch to the bluez ML Mar 07 14:50:52 yep, got him on the phone because of that some hours ago Mar 07 14:51:20 he said, that he just returned from brazil Mar 07 14:51:31 yeah, do you know what he did there? Mar 07 14:51:54 * mickeyl wonder whether he did there... gta02-core comes to mind Mar 07 14:52:52 * graziano is subscribing to -dev, what useful contribution he will be able to provide, that is another story :) Mar 07 14:53:01 He only said that he returned from there Mar 07 14:53:42 graziano: everyone using shr-unstable should subscribe -dev ML ;) Mar 07 14:54:10 * graziano is using testing :) Mar 07 14:54:17 ok :) Mar 07 14:56:08 I think I have to reconsider subscription to many mailing list, they are increasing, this is not good Mar 07 14:58:27 graziano: i moved all my subscriptions to an extra email adress Mar 07 14:59:15 so you are using one for all mailing lists and one for people/contacts, etc.? Mar 07 15:01:46 sort of, 1 for mailinglists and 5 other :) Mar 07 15:01:56 :)) Mar 07 15:14:58 * Weiss wonders how an Xorg driver build from a week or so old OE tree came to have a *higher* ABI version than the X server in an hours-old SHR-u image Mar 07 15:15:47 Weiss: didn't you build xserver-xorg_git? Mar 07 15:16:07 there is higher ABI Mar 07 15:16:44 aha, yeah.. just realised I'm still on your crazy dev branch instead of the one which matches the image Mar 07 15:17:26 :) Mar 07 15:20:22 just fiddling with xrandr+KMS Mar 07 15:22:46 mickeyl: do any of the latest commits have anything to do with framework crashing after gprs disconnect? looking at it and am not sure... :) Mar 07 15:23:28 commits in fso, and of course not meaning the HOF stuff :) Mar 07 15:23:47 s/HOF/HFP/ Mar 07 15:23:48 vanous123 meant: commits in fso, and of course not meaning the HFP stuff :) Mar 07 15:26:12 vanous123: no, unfortunately i have no time to work on the GPRS disconnect problem. Mar 07 15:26:32 i have decided to spend my time rather on getting fsogsmd to a state where it can be used by distributions Mar 07 15:31:37 mickeyl: IMO using fsigpsd should get rid of that issue, right? Mar 07 15:31:43 gosh Mar 07 15:31:50 frozen fingers, sorry Mar 07 15:32:53 mickeyl: and how is the fsogsmd going? Mar 07 15:33:37 this is FSO2 stuff and will be used elsewhere, right? Mar 07 15:34:07 at this point, people using FSO on G1 use framework or fsogsmd? Mar 07 15:36:34 while frameworkd supports the G1, all new development goes into fsogsmd Mar 07 15:36:43 e.g. I won't add Palm Pre support to ogsmd Mar 07 15:36:49 however it has already been added to fsogsmd Mar 07 15:37:02 it's progressing nicely Mar 07 15:37:06 so this is good Mar 07 15:37:14 it's at the point where we need to start clients using it Mar 07 15:37:23 however it is not a drop-in replacement Mar 07 15:37:31 which means API has changed at some points Mar 07 15:37:36 and will continue to in order to improve Mar 07 15:37:39 are you alone in the coding of framework? Mar 07 15:38:02 Unfortunately, few people are comfortable in Vala yet :) Mar 07 15:38:09 oh boy Mar 07 15:38:10 but this will hopefully change as Vala gets more and more mature and wide spread Mar 07 15:38:19 so, yes, FSO2 has been more or less been a one man show Mar 07 15:38:56 with lots of people supporting though Mar 07 15:38:58 either through fixing Vala Mar 07 15:39:03 or cooking support libraries Mar 07 15:39:17 this sounds good Mar 07 15:40:03 i am glad your iphone job hasn't sank you in :) Mar 07 15:40:38 mickeyl: How does one give you money? Mar 07 15:42:05 krayon: http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Donate Mar 07 15:42:50 vanous123: Thanks :) Mar 07 15:43:59 mickeyl: thank you for your time (now and also coding), appreciate it :) Mar 07 15:47:11 :) Mar 07 15:47:51 i'm probably crazy continuing to develop that in the light of all the commercially supported middleware platforms, but hey... i believe in our architecture and technology Mar 07 15:48:27 and i love community driven middleware that does not limit contributors to app development Mar 07 15:48:37 right on Mar 07 15:49:27 how open is the ofono development? Mar 07 15:49:56 are there any other open middleware stacks? Mar 07 15:51:56 i don't know of any embracing DBus as we do Mar 07 15:52:24 hi dcordes Mar 07 15:52:32 ofono is open Mar 07 15:52:32 i see Mar 07 15:52:44 but it is not as complete as FSO Mar 07 15:52:45 dbus seems very interesting to me Mar 07 15:52:52 FSO is complete system Mar 07 15:53:03 ofono is just fsogsmd Mar 07 15:53:25 and not even complete as ofono Mar 07 15:53:42 this is what i understand now too, from watching the neophysics guys Mar 07 15:54:52 neophysics? Mar 07 15:55:52 ofono seems to be already in debian Mar 07 15:56:06 playya__: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-March/060687.html Mar 07 15:56:35 lindi-: yes Mar 07 15:57:38 except for ofono they look very promising (fast start up time, qt based) Mar 07 15:58:26 i run away when i hear that a distro is "qt/gtk/foo based" :) Mar 07 15:59:05 ;) Mar 07 15:59:30 lindi-: for personal reasons i prefer qt (as it's what i use on the desktop) Mar 07 15:59:52 bumbl: i prefer distros that don't restrict themselves to some particular widget library Mar 07 16:00:05 vanous123, i think they're bootup speed will be go down when they'll use the desktop stuff on they're phone Mar 07 16:00:38 playya__: what desktopstuff do you mean? Mar 07 16:00:53 lindi-: but the core telephony app should be limited to one widget library imo - i hate it that pyphonelog looks and feels different than the phoneui apps Mar 07 16:00:56 as i said before: fso is a complete system Mar 07 16:01:18 you need more than only a gsm daemon to run a smartphone Mar 07 16:01:18 i tried today, the startup took 34 secs from scratch Mar 07 16:01:37 well, it might expand, i agree Mar 07 16:01:43 playya__: please retrain your dragondictate Mar 07 16:01:56 but you don't have resource mangement, ... which is required on a smartphone Mar 07 16:02:19 playya__: I'm neither bootup speed nor phone Mar 07 16:02:23 bumbl: distros should ship multiple telephony apps :) Mar 07 16:02:46 desktoptools have a completely different target and won't be scale on a phone Mar 07 16:02:50 playya__: but i don't want a smartphone, i want a pda that can make calls Mar 07 16:03:29 yes. that's still possible. but you don't want to have 3G enabled all the time, even no application uses it Mar 07 16:03:34 or GPS Mar 07 16:03:53 lindi-: i diagree Mar 07 16:03:55 +s Mar 07 16:04:04 playya__: i have a menu entry for wifi/gprs/gps on/off Mar 07 16:04:24 fragmentation of efforts is not (always) a good thing Mar 07 16:04:30 playya__: i work in environments where no transmitters are allowed so i want to have manual control Mar 07 16:04:37 but that might be annoying. i prefer that apps can acitvate it Mar 07 16:05:05 yes. we're missing sth like policykit atm Mar 07 16:05:28 playya__: it sounds so complex that i wouldn't depend on it in this case :) Mar 07 16:05:29 but this should be possible Mar 07 16:06:30 what I'm missing atm is the inter app comunication over standard interfaces Mar 07 16:06:34 doesn't FSO already provide that? Mar 07 16:06:38 SetResourcePolicy? Mar 07 16:07:09 dos1, not in a per app policy Mar 07 16:07:30 but why do you need per app policy? Mar 07 16:07:48 e.g. networking Mar 07 16:08:08 i allow my IM to go only Mar 07 16:08:25 nothing should use SetResourcePolicy without asking user if he really wants that Mar 07 16:08:29 oh, ok, i understand Mar 07 16:08:49 for GPRS: you very usually do not want to switch on/off frequently, as GPRS doesn't eat considerably more power while enabled&no-traffic, than when disabled. But each time you crank it up it needs to run a whole DHCP cycle which is not exactly what you need to optimize power consumption Mar 07 16:10:40 but not my package manager to run updates Mar 07 16:11:13 DocScrutinizer, yes. but maybe i want to limit the trafic Mar 07 16:11:20 * DocScrutinizer thinks netfilter/iptables can easily do that Mar 07 16:11:44 and for none freeruners limit it to 2G Mar 07 16:15:45 dos1, another point: if you allow 3rd parties to write software, they maybe want to do things you don't want Mar 07 16:16:22 e.g. there're _themes_ in the android market which want to access GPS and networking Mar 07 16:16:23 DocScrutinizer: by DHCP cycle you mean re-running pppd? re-acquiring IP? Mar 07 16:16:25 for anything more complex (like updates only while at home WLAN) you should refer to ologicd to come eventually Mar 07 16:16:50 vanous123: exactly Mar 07 16:17:11 the only one who knows the internals is missing for 2 month Mar 07 16:17:22 I know Mar 07 16:17:24 :-( Mar 07 16:17:51 and ologicd is more like a webapp Mar 07 16:17:58 DocScrutinizer: why is that power consuming? due to larger net traffic? Mar 07 16:18:09 so it's nonsense then, if that's correct Mar 07 16:18:29 vanous123: it obviously needs additional traffic Mar 07 16:18:47 it's like position dependent googleing Mar 07 16:18:54 and a lot more Mar 07 16:20:11 i see Mar 07 16:20:49 vanous123: an as I mentioned above, a passive GPRS is power neutral (well almost) Mar 07 16:21:05 yes Mar 07 16:21:13 when @ home network Mar 07 16:21:31 no, always Mar 07 16:21:38 well, i mean Mar 07 16:21:46 DocScrutinizer: can calypso be in deep sleep while gprs is connected? Mar 07 16:22:04 that's a bit of questionable Mar 07 16:22:07 if you are roaming, very often the charges are per traffic and per time slot Mar 07 16:22:17 depends on internal management I guess Mar 07 16:23:08 i have seen occasions where getting 1MB directly is cheaper then gps/gprs tracking small amount every few minutes Mar 07 16:23:12 lindi-: also depends on BTS network config Mar 07 16:23:31 as the provides charges per 20minutes time segment + data amount Mar 07 16:23:59 vanous123: well for these situations you got a GPRS master switch anyway Mar 07 16:24:14 yes Mar 07 16:24:29 well Mar 07 16:24:42 unless an app requests gprs :) atm Mar 07 16:25:15 nope. masterswitch means set resource-policy to off. Then it's OFF Mar 07 16:25:51 if SHR implements it any other way, then that's a bug Mar 07 16:26:02 spaetz, hello, but what about the new testing images? Mar 07 16:26:11 (also if FSO would dare to handle resource differently) Mar 07 16:27:38 lindi-: last day I heard N900 eats a max of 1mA additional for GPRS enabled Mar 07 16:27:42 and passive Mar 07 16:28:01 unconfirmed rumours Mar 07 16:28:45 lindi-: depends on how long BTS config allows modem to deepsleep for GSM, vs GPRS Mar 07 16:29:13 max value absolute is 2sec afaik Mar 07 16:30:53 DocScrutinizer: but afaik FSO doesn't support persistent pppd atm, or? Mar 07 16:31:06 DocScrutinizer: n900 won't really help us :) Mar 07 16:32:14 lindi-: so obviously if network is configured for low latency on inbound packets, it might cause modem to wake more frequently for very short times, thus switching power consumption to *2 for more 1/200sec slots per 2sec Mar 07 16:32:33 DocScrutinizer: more importantly it will cause the cpu to wake Mar 07 16:32:40 nope Mar 07 16:32:52 (the incoming ip packets) Mar 07 16:33:30 if modem is listening for an inbound GPRS packet that never to come, it just means modem going from sleep4 to sleep2 basically, for 1/200sec Mar 07 16:35:00 so you can assume for AT%SLEEP=2 an enabled GPRS won't change anything Mar 07 16:35:06 here the background traffic is about 3 packets per minute Mar 07 16:35:30 for AT%SLEEP=4 it never will become as consuming as sleep=2 Mar 07 16:36:25 well, if you don't want inbound packets, then you need to disable GPRS. As it basically means you don't want any connectivity Mar 07 16:37:01 carriers do a good job to keep unwanted random bogus packets away from their clients Mar 07 16:37:20 as they understand wuite well this will eat the battery Mar 07 16:37:22 here they don't, you can ssh in Mar 07 16:37:26 quite Mar 07 16:38:47 lindi-: duh!? you got a non-NATed public IP on your GPRS? Mar 07 16:39:02 I.E. you can run services??? Mar 07 16:39:16 never heard of such a thing Mar 07 16:39:28 DocScrutinizer: yes Mar 07 16:39:41 incredible stupid crap Mar 07 16:40:28 pbaxter, afaik the feed is still compiling. Mar 07 16:40:32 usually people complain about NAT Mar 07 16:40:47 at least it was some time ago Mar 07 16:41:50 sure, but wait until someone runs a simple nmap against their mobile device Mar 07 16:42:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07zhone * rb59a18f644f2 10/src/zhone-fsogsmd: remove attempt to port zhone to fsogsmd; python-efl does not like me anymore (probably because i started eflvala...) Mar 07 16:43:16 "eeeeww! *SOB* my device is getting hot and battery drains like hell, all of a sudden while I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING" Mar 07 16:44:34 spaetz, and today will testing be ready to download? Mar 07 16:44:53 ~hail zhone-vala Mar 07 16:44:54 * apt bows down to zhone-vala and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Mar 07 16:52:24 lindi-: anyway 3 packets / minute sounds reasonably sane still. Could be ARP or sth - if carrier is using a stupid network config Mar 07 16:54:08 assuming the best we would see system to resume for 3* 2 sec / minute, even without all the nasty hogs like backlight. So this should be bearable Mar 07 16:54:26 DocScrutinizer: nope, random windows worms Mar 07 16:54:37 ouch!!!! Mar 07 16:54:37 DocScrutinizer: ppp does not use arp afaik Mar 07 16:54:40 see? Mar 07 16:56:07 lindi-: and you're sure those worms don't reside on machines you actively contacted before ? ;-P Mar 07 16:57:13 (you know, establishing NAT session etc) Mar 07 16:57:54 lindi-: I'd complain on my provider Mar 07 16:58:00 DocScrutinizer: no but somebody could have used the same ip just before me... Mar 07 16:58:44 i don't know what sort of magic my provider should do. i wanted internet connectivity, having some secret active firewall with no documentation does not sound nice Mar 07 16:58:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * rdc14f434c9d3 10/zhone2/ (69 files in 6 dirs): zhone2: add build skeleton Mar 07 16:59:18 duh, right, that's another possible config flaw on carriers' network setup - not tearing down all NAT sessions on DHCP new login Mar 07 17:05:39 pbaxter, to be honest, I don't think I will have time today. i will need to write an anouncement mail and deal with urgent fallout. I am enjoying a day with my family. Mar 07 17:06:09 So either tonight or tomorrow morning. Mar 07 17:06:31 Or if JaMa pushes it earlier. Mar 07 17:06:41 spaetz, thx! Mar 07 17:07:22 lindi-: basically best kind of magic would be to offer a non-secret configurable firewall. I know some providers offer a configurable compressing proxy for lossy compressing of images in html Mar 07 17:08:23 dunno if they offer config interface for NAT/FW as well Mar 07 17:10:24 as by now UMTS routers become more popular, as a fill-gap for ADSL, I'd guess they should have a way to config that detail as well Mar 07 17:14:11 [2010-03-07 17:15:45] dos1, another point: if you allow 3rd parties to write software, they maybe want to do things you don't want Mar 07 17:14:25 playya__: that's what dbus policies are for Mar 07 17:14:57 yes. but we don't have defined groups, users for that Mar 07 17:15:19 aiui you can tweak dbus policies so only settings app may use setResourcePolicy Mar 07 17:15:50 yes. but this means every app needs a own user Mar 07 17:16:14 playya__: don't you think it's dbus policies then where we need to tackle that issue, rather than any policydaemon or the like Mar 07 17:18:40 DocScrutinizer, here's sth i wrote down a while ago: http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Brainstorm/Launcher#Basic_ideas Mar 07 17:25:42 playya__: I agree fsodeviced (and others?) need more than just 3 states (off,auto,on) for policy parameters. Applies for audio resource (request a certain scenario) as well as for network connectivity Mar 07 17:26:19 yes. but maybe we should add sth above to configure it Mar 07 17:26:51 playya__: I also agree same fso subsystem needs a clean way to configure priorities and other properties of certain policies Mar 07 17:27:56 and obviously standard user privileges shouldn't suffice to change that policy config Mar 07 17:34:09 feel free to write comments to any of my ideas :) Mar 07 17:40:23 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r438d5190b4ea 10/zhone2/ (5 files in 4 dirs): zhone2: open window and show background image Mar 07 18:47:17 which profile is better: Illume-home, Illume SHR OR Illume2 SHR Mar 07 18:53:00 pbaxter: Illume-home is out of your interest Mar 07 18:53:07 pbaxter: Illume SHR is our default ATM Mar 07 18:53:27 pbaxter: Illume2 SHR is experimental, but should be already useable Mar 07 18:53:29 usable* Mar 07 18:53:50 dos1, i hate it... Mar 07 18:53:56 i prefer Illume 1! Mar 07 18:54:11 ;) Mar 07 18:54:16 then use illume SHR Mar 07 18:54:17 illume2 is a lot slower than illume1 Mar 07 18:54:25 've to eat dinner Mar 07 18:54:27 bye! Mar 07 18:54:30 thanks do Mar 07 18:54:32 dos1, Mar 07 18:54:34 thansk Mar 07 18:55:31 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * rbff7c0329157 10/zhone2/src/ (Makefile.am main.vala): zhone2: show main Mar 07 18:58:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * re948fa335e07 10/zhone2/src/main.vala: zhone2: show welcome message Mar 07 19:07:15 pbaxter, illume2 is a lot slower than illume1 Mar 07 19:07:27 pbaxter, if you can, please tell it to devilhorns in #e Mar 07 19:07:27 :) Mar 07 19:08:34 TAsn, pbaxter: is than composite module disabled in illume2 shr config as raster advised? Mar 07 19:08:44 s/than/that/ Mar 07 19:08:46 JaMa|Off meant: TAsn, pbaxter: is that composite module disabled in illume2 shr config as raster advised? Mar 07 19:09:09 JaMa|Off, it is disabled Mar 07 19:09:19 though even if it wasn't disabled, it doesn't work Mar 07 19:09:24 it pops a message Mar 07 19:09:46 ah I don't have that message in newer rev anymore.. Mar 07 19:10:16 because it's disabled :) Mar 07 19:10:25 or at least should be, you scared me now Mar 07 19:10:55 value "use_composite" int: 0; Mar 07 19:11:02 and the module is not loaded Mar 07 19:11:11 ah ok, thanks Mar 07 19:11:36 and there is still bottom panel :/ Mar 07 19:12:01 yes Mar 07 19:12:15 in order to remove it I need to do a bit of dev work Mar 07 19:12:22 (write it in the upper panel instead) Mar 07 19:12:34 so it'll take some time until I'll have the time Mar 07 19:12:37 (semester have started) Mar 07 19:14:03 ah ok.. I was thinking that you said something like, that it's configurable from theme.. ok then Mar 07 19:15:14 I wish. Mar 07 19:15:22 it's a different app Mar 07 19:15:25 (module) Mar 07 19:31:06 hi there. can you tell me what's the right way of hiding a button inside a box on elementary-python?, please. I tried using button.hide(): it disappears but still occupies the space Mar 07 19:32:21 no idea, but I think asking in #e will produce better answers Mar 07 19:39:10 yep, thanks ^^ Mar 07 19:58:07 mmmhhh opkg build error :( pelotas Mar 07 20:03:51 opkg needs gpgme :) Mar 07 20:17:13 * von_fritz drinks one amaro averna to calm his nerves :) Mar 07 20:20:06 ftn, try unpacking it after hiding ;) Mar 07 20:20:14 I had similar problem in C Mar 07 20:20:56 ftn, I use this: Mar 07 20:20:57 evas_object_hide(obj); Mar 07 20:20:58 elm_box_unpack(Cb->parent, obj); Mar 07 20:21:26 pespin_ alright, I'll give it a try. thx! :) Mar 07 20:28:44 ftn, np :) Mar 07 20:29:00 yeep, it worked! Mar 07 20:29:23 hehe :) Mar 07 20:30:21 ftn, hide() just hides the content of the widget, but it's still there, ocupping space :P Mar 07 20:30:46 dam hidden widgets XD Mar 07 20:40:21 dos1: have you hears of some issues with niebee theme? Mar 07 20:40:35 vanous123, I had issues with it Mar 07 20:40:39 s/heards/heard/ Mar 07 20:40:41 it was too damn blue :P Mar 07 20:40:45 TAsn: hehe Mar 07 20:40:55 Rendered it unusable for me. Mar 07 20:41:00 well, i had more than that Mar 07 20:41:34 the Neomis game doesn't run wit hthis theme Mar 07 20:41:49 I guess Neomis doesn't like blue either Mar 07 20:41:57 hehe Mar 07 20:42:07 As implied before, I can relate to that. Mar 07 20:42:13 i think the issue is in the pager Mar 07 20:42:19 that is used in neomis Mar 07 20:42:44 anyhow Mar 07 20:42:50 just for the record... Mar 07 21:01:24 shr-t image&feed synced :), pbaxter ping :) Mar 07 21:01:48 JaMa|Off, ;) Mar 07 21:03:38 JaMa|Off, since when do you do shr-t? :P Mar 07 21:03:43 JaMa|Off, buildhost is fixed? Mar 07 21:03:49 TAsn: it "is" Mar 07 21:04:10 which means? (in greater detail if you can) Mar 07 21:04:15 TAsn: that's just because I'm nonstop attached to buildhost session Mar 07 21:04:37 TAsn: bearstech guys have planed ram replace for next week Mar 07 21:04:44 :( Mar 07 21:04:56 TAsn: last week they run memtest Mar 07 21:05:04 yeah, I remember Mar 07 21:05:09 next week = tomorrow? Mar 07 21:05:17 TAsn: and after reboot, nobody knows exactly why, our Xen host had 200MB less ram Mar 07 21:05:23 (starting from tomorrow) Mar 07 21:05:43 TAsn: and no segfault since then (so probably the missing 200MB migrated to other xen host and it was the broken part) Mar 07 21:05:58 sweet. Mar 07 21:06:04 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ls /usr/bin/x-window-manager/ Mar 07 21:06:04 nf_conntrack_pptp.ko xt_limit.ko Mar 07 21:06:11 ...pretty sure that shouldn't happen..? Mar 07 21:06:12 at least that's lukhas explanation what happen with 200MB Mar 07 21:06:40 Weiss: never seen it in my builds :/ Mar 07 21:06:41 going off Mar 07 21:06:43 thanks JaMa|Off Mar 07 21:07:11 JaMa|Off: happened on an earlier one as well, only that time it was /usr/bin/enlightenment-start Mar 07 21:07:27 in fact: Mar 07 21:07:27 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ls /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe/ Mar 07 21:07:28 nf_conntrack_pptp.ko xt_limit.ko Mar 07 21:07:47 Weiss: hmm I guess it's maybe side-effect of using my "crazy" branch :/ Mar 07 21:08:07 I'm not any more.. I flashed a sensible SHR-u image from earlier this afternoon Mar 07 21:08:42 Weiss: http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg04332.html Mar 07 21:08:57 you have this in image built on buildhost? Mar 07 21:09:43 yep Mar 07 21:09:48 * JaMa|Off installing iptables Mar 07 21:10:00 hang on, I'll flash a clean copy and see if it's still there Mar 07 21:14:17 JaMa|Off: Package kernel-module-omninet version 2.6.29-oe11+gitr119862+a15608f241a40b41fed5bffe511355c2067c4e88-r8.4 has no valid architecture, ignoring Mar 07 21:14:24 JaMa|Off: second run went ok Mar 07 21:14:32 upgrading shr-u 7 days old Mar 07 21:14:37 not me though... Mar 07 21:15:14 JaMa|Off: just FYI if there was still anything badly built in the feeds... Mar 07 21:15:35 Heinervdm: Is there newer development somewhere, or is there really last commit in Sep2009? http://gitorious.org/webkit-efl/ Mar 07 21:16:22 vanous123: 7 days old was built with faulty ram.. :/ so I would say that it that doesn't happen with new image than it's not real problem Mar 07 21:17:02 JaMa|Off: on yesterdays image...i am not sure if modules were upgrading, would doubt it... Mar 07 21:17:03 ok Mar 07 21:17:36 Weiss: find / -name nf_conntrack_pptp.ko -> nothing on last shr-lite-image with iptables installed, where did you get that? Mar 07 21:18:51 no idea.. I haven't installed anything except xf86-video-glamo.. Mar 07 21:19:10 * Weiss ponders bad NAND Mar 07 21:19:21 Heindervdm: I'm asking because with Ecore_data deprecated it won't build with any newer efl snapshot and I'm not going to migrate it to Eina just for OE patch sake.. Mar 07 21:19:44 Weiss: I guess that opkg search for those files doesn't return anything Mar 07 21:19:56 hang on.. currently flashing.. Mar 07 21:26:07 JaMa|Off: fresh image, still there.. Mar 07 21:27:36 root@om-gta02 ~ $ find / -name nf_conntrack_pptp.ko Mar 07 21:27:36 /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe/nf_conntrack_pptp.ko Mar 07 21:27:45 interesting.. didn't find /usr/bin/x-window-manager/ Mar 07 21:29:28 Weiss: here it's still only a file /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe , but I'm not using jffs2 images.. Mar 07 21:31:57 ah, jffs2 here.. Mar 07 21:32:13 (UBIfs seems to have zero resilience against unclean shutdowns for me :S) Mar 07 21:36:01 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16592 Feb 5 18:03 nf_conntrack_pptp.ko (date relevant?) Mar 07 21:36:02 mickey|dinner: reporting as requested http://pastebin.ca/1827668 , sorry if it's known Mar 07 21:36:35 Weiss: I'm not using .ubi either.. just .tar.gz on uSD.. Mar 07 22:05:11 gta01, shr-u image also built Mar 07 22:09:12 mickey|dinner: shouln't fsodata RDEPEND on mobile-broadband-provider-info? Mar 07 22:10:27 mickey|dinner: it has it in DEPEND but it doesn't force mobile-broadband to be installed in image as it probably doesn't link with it Mar 07 22:14:11 JaMa|Off: true, that's an oversight, please add when you have a chance Mar 07 22:14:36 ok Mar 07 22:14:38 JaMa|Off: thanks for reporting %CPRI, i will work more on TI Calypso integration next weekend Mar 07 22:14:42 JaMa|Off, has shr-t feed built? Mar 07 22:15:39 mickey|dinner: except of that, phoneuid segfault and manual SetFunctionality, I was able to make an testcall with fsogsmd :) Mar 07 22:15:50 spaetz: yes and rsynced already Mar 07 22:15:52 wow Mar 07 22:15:53 good news :) Mar 07 22:16:00 how do you like the speed? :) Mar 07 22:16:24 (please tell me you noticed a difference ;)) Mar 07 22:16:35 JaMa|Off, ahh thankks a lot.... Mar 07 22:17:28 mickey|dinner: I have all fso stuff with debug and output to stderr.. I'll retest without mmt Mar 07 22:17:32 now I need to write a mail ti shr lists soon... Mar 07 22:18:09 spaetz: do you want gta01 image? Mar 07 22:18:18 spaetz: I just built new one for gta02.. Mar 07 22:18:27 s/gta02/shr-u/ Mar 07 22:18:28 JaMa|Off meant: spaetz: I just built new one for shr-u.. Mar 07 22:19:27 spaetz: and there is also few apps from feeds failing to build now.. (manually fixed ventura in both shr and reported to c_c as it's autorev and he'll fix it soon) Mar 07 22:21:50 growl.. somewhere in Xorg, my modelines are getting randomised Mar 07 22:35:16 mickey|dinner: seems like registration race-cond problem is present also with fsogsmd (when running all without debug) Mar 07 22:36:02 yeah, i expected that. something in libgsm0710mux then Mar 07 22:36:20 what is happening? Mar 07 22:36:25 a crash in the lbi? Mar 07 22:36:32 mickey|dinner: but otherwise even time between starting fsogsmd and registration seems shorter (but I guess you have to wait for modem most of that time, so it's not good performance benchmark for python/vala imp) Mar 07 22:36:32 or just hanging somewhere? Mar 07 22:38:30 mickey|dinner: without debug I didn't see anything interesting and in log is only this http://pastebin.ca/1827786 repeating until I stopped fsogsmd (restarted with DEBUG Mar 07 22:39:11 this is the one which appears with 2.6.32? Mar 07 22:40:22 * JaMa|Off is using that with 2.6.32 yes (and without udevd, but had to create ttySAC0 in init script..) Mar 07 22:42:07 ok, i need to do some tests with .32 then Mar 07 22:45:02 mickey|dinner: hmm maybe it was my fault.. I called SetFunctionality just after starting fsogsmd from init script Mar 07 22:45:21 JaMa|Off, I think opkg is buggy again in new shr-u image :S Mar 07 22:45:40 mickey|dinner: and didn't check if it's ready already when called as well as didn't check output of it Mar 07 22:45:55 JaMa|Off, gta01 would be nice, at least lite-image. Mar 07 22:45:58 pespin_: if you upgrade more packages at once? Mar 07 22:46:31 spaetz: ok running Mar 07 22:46:44 JaMa|Off, what do you mean? Mar 07 22:46:53 good to know about ventura. i'll hhave to bump those fixed versions Mar 07 22:47:21 libgsm0710mux - thought we already spoted a 6 lines of code that fail to work like expected? Mar 07 22:47:25 pespin_: does it segfault when you upgrade more packages at once, or does it segfault everytime you use it? Mar 07 22:48:09 JaMa|Off, oh wait, maybe it's not opkg fault. Is shr-u feed totally built? Mar 07 22:49:01 yes Mar 07 22:49:22 except few failing packages Mar 07 22:50:23 JaMa|Off, http://www.pastebin.ca/1827807 Mar 07 22:53:06 pespin_: and before this output? Mar 07 22:53:27 JaMa|Off, other packages installed ok Mar 07 22:53:35 its from a script I have which installs some packages Mar 07 22:54:02 so run ie opkg install navit by hand and show me output Mar 07 22:54:25 hmm no, the ones which doesn't throw error are because they are up to date Mar 07 22:56:11 JaMa|Off, nevermind, I'm stupid, I think it's my fault Mar 07 22:56:22 last time I used the script I commented the "opkg update" line Mar 07 22:56:29 so I needed to opkg update before the script Mar 07 23:00:02 mickey|dinner: have you checked line268ff of http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libgsm0710mux.git;a=blob;f=gsm0710mux/multiplexer.vala;h=87c0340bb4ccb91b16a1a9f9a4d85156d143f207;hb=861b234386de071822d5f7726205058858e1e668 ? Mar 07 23:08:29 mickey|dinner: if you know what's interesting in it, here is log from 3 runs for different debug levels specified in fsogsmd.conf no_debug_fail: http://pastebin.ca/1827816 , debug_fsogsmd+libgsm0710mux_ok http://pastebin.ca/1827817, debug_libgsm0710mux_ok http://pastebin.ca/1827818 Mar 07 23:17:29 * JaMa|Off sleep Mar 07 23:17:52 mickey|dinner: http://shr.pastebin.com/e4eanTxG ( thanks jl_gene [2010-03-05 12:37:54]) Mar 07 23:20:31 d'oh Mar 07 23:20:36 i guess you're up to something Mar 07 23:20:52 i need some sleep now but will look when i have a chance Mar 07 23:20:52 thanks Mar 07 23:22:03 yw Mar 07 23:24:41 sleep! n8 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 08 02:59:57 2010