**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 09 02:59:58 2010
Mar 09 05:01:27 <lindi-> prahal: ext3 should be builtin soon
Mar 09 05:01:56 <lindi-> prahal: initramfs is not used yet
Mar 09 05:07:55 <prahal> foun out about the ext3 ... I am rebuilding a debian kernel locally . I found an issue , ie make modules_install does not have the ARCH=arm . It brokes in a cross compilation environment
Mar 09 05:08:44 <prahal> though I don't know yet where to report (I ll check as soon as the next build succeed with my changes
Mar 09 05:09:42 <prahal> about initramfs . Yes it will be included in the kernel ala android . Though I do not understand why qi support loading an initramfs but it is disabled for all targets
Mar 09 05:22:27 <lindi-> prahal: cross compilation of debian packages in general is not supported
Mar 09 05:24:00 <prahal> yes though as two third of the rule uses ARCH=arm fixing this last bit may get accepted
Mar 09 05:25:38 <lindi-> sure
Mar 09 05:25:39 <prahal> I don't know . And if I do not ask , I will never
Mar 09 05:25:54 <lindi-> prahal: file a wishlist bug against the package
Mar 09 05:27:50 <BillK> new shr testing - what is the default player - I have no sound :(
Mar 09 05:33:18 <prahal> lindi-, this is a pkg-fso package . no bts.  looking at the alioth project . ML only it seems
Mar 09 05:33:27 <lindi-> prahal: you can use bts
Mar 09 05:33:36 <prahal> ok
Mar 09 05:48:14 <prahal> ok nvm it fails later and I don't think futher cruft would be accepted .( thank you . I believe the use of the bts for pkg-fso packages will be of use
Mar 09 06:27:36 <spaetz> BillK, player as in music player?
Mar 09 06:27:42 <spaetz> intone?
Mar 09 07:16:03 <rhkfin> did I read right that on latest shr-testing when pressing the power buttn you should get some kind of profile selector? I don't.. Did my upgrade fail, should I remove the .e dir or what's the thing?
Mar 09 07:16:32 <graziano> rhkfin: I did but I deleted my sd and untarred shr full inside, I did not opkg upgrade
Mar 09 07:16:50 <rhkfin> ok..
Mar 09 07:16:56 <rhkfin> ah right, I read it from your review..
Mar 09 07:17:02 <rhkfin> That sound's like I shoulr reflash..
Mar 09 07:17:39 <rhkfin> Or would untarring the new tarball to NAND (NOR? I never learned..) be ok?
Mar 09 07:43:12 <rhkfin> vegyraupe hi there :)
Mar 09 07:43:50 <graziano> rhkfin: I don't know
Mar 09 07:44:04 <graziano> since I own a freerunner I always put the os in the sd
Mar 09 07:44:31 <rhkfin> I also own a freeruner but don't put the OS on the SD :) (ok, I have Debian there.. :)
Mar 09 07:45:02 * Wonka keeps a known working SHR in flash...
Mar 09 07:45:58 <Wonka> shr-u on SD, debian on another SD and on the hird SD there's a h:1 iirc
Mar 09 07:46:04 <Wonka> +t
Mar 09 07:46:42 <Wonka> funny how an onscreen keyboard can stick...
Mar 09 07:48:55 <vegyraupe> rhkfin: hey there
Mar 09 08:01:37 * DocScrutinizer suggets to keep a known working flash on SD ;-P http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918
Mar 09 08:08:07 <graziano> mmm
Mar 09 08:08:15 <graziano> DocScrutinizer: are those fake sd cards?
Mar 09 08:08:29 <graziano> = cards with sandisk logo but not manufactured by or for sandisk?
Mar 09 08:09:26 <graziano> or they are just original e.g.sandisk sd card only with some manufacturing error or defect?
Mar 09 08:09:51 <DocScrutinizer> please read the whole article
Mar 09 08:10:29 <DocScrutinizer> I don't know any more than what's written in there
Mar 09 08:12:20 <rhkfin> DocScrutinizer: interesting post....
Mar 09 08:12:39 <DocScrutinizer> yup, absolutely
Mar 09 08:16:13 * rhkfin can't decide if to reflash or not.. based on the report on -community I wouldn't like to have a crashing e and limited n. of desktops (if I understood correctly it affects running multiple programs at the same time)
Mar 09 08:18:04 <DocScrutinizer> graziano: almost all cards in this blogpost are marked kingston, not sandisk
Mar 09 08:23:18 <graziano> ok, I had a quick read
Mar 09 08:31:46 <max_posedon> which initd shr uses?
Mar 09 08:32:08 <max_posedon> after todays upgrade all links was updated to busybox's and system dead(unbootable) now
Mar 09 08:33:15 <JaMa> max_posedon: sysvinit
Mar 09 08:33:45 <max_posedon> Don't you know, why all links become updated to busybox?
Mar 09 08:34:04 <JaMa> I know and I also send why on shr-devel list..
Mar 09 08:34:57 <JaMa> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=09a79a497f9c362bf899a8be2295178c3ed18836
Mar 09 08:35:43 <JaMa> [Shr-User] READ THIS if you upgraded opkg/busybox in last 8 days
Mar 09 08:36:50 <JaMa> http://n2.nabble.com/READ-THIS-if-you-upgraded-opkg-busybox-in-last-8-days-td4652919.html#a4652919
Mar 09 08:37:14 * JaMa is done writting something to any ML.. nobody is reading that anyways..
Mar 09 08:38:19 <max_posedon> I upgraded just 10mins ago, I thought its older issue
Mar 09 08:39:07 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: MESSYBOX!
Mar 09 08:40:00 <JaMa> max_posedon: the issue can rot there for months before first busybox upgrade..
Mar 09 08:40:25 <JaMa> max_posedon: I haven't found when and why that ipkg -> opkg link was created
Mar 09 08:40:42 <JaMa> max_posedon: but first opkg upgrade after that broke it silently
Mar 09 08:40:59 <JaMa> max_posedon: and first busybox upgrade broke it completely and visibly
Mar 09 08:41:50 <max_posedon> oh, understand now
Mar 09 08:44:54 * DocScrutinizer id done with reading ML, when trolls are quoting 100+ lines of prev post, just to ad *ONE* line of comment which you hardly can spot in thet quoting and footer mess
Mar 09 08:45:07 <max_posedon> JaMa, btw, ML is too big to keep eye on it for regular user
Mar 09 08:45:23 <max_posedon> shr blog is better place for such announces imho.
Mar 09 08:46:38 <DocScrutinizer> a ML without decent modeation enforcing some minimal netiquette is a PITA
Mar 09 08:51:06 <DocScrutinizer> and btw nabble doesn't help to make things better wrt that
Mar 09 08:51:06 <JaMa> max_posedon: yeah.. right
Mar 09 08:51:23 <max_posedon> JaMa, btw, don't you know, is frameworkd loglevel = DEBUG still important to have working gsm in shr-U?
Mar 09 08:51:50 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: see very last commit of mickey
Mar 09 08:52:03 <JaMa> max_posedon: yesterday's upgrade is supposed to fix this.. but I'm not using ogsm from framework anymore.. so I haven't tried myself
Mar 09 08:52:04 <DocScrutinizer> some 12h ago
Mar 09 08:52:28 <max_posedon> JaMa, fsogsmd works in shr-U!?
Mar 09 08:53:12 <JaMa> max_posedon: not out of the box..
Mar 09 08:53:22 <JaMa> but yes.. I can call with it
Mar 09 08:53:44 <max_posedon> wow, could you give me steps for enabling it?
Mar 09 08:54:09 <JaMa> ehm the same commit from yesterday broke it for me.. but mickey will fix it when he joins now :)
Mar 09 08:54:22 <max_posedon> ah, ok. will wait
Mar 09 08:54:50 <JaMa> max_posedon: but it's better to wait also for phonefsod support 
Mar 09 08:55:17 <JaMa> max_posedon: as now I have to call SetFunctionality with mdbus2 call (I call it from init script so it's not much work :))
Mar 09 08:55:42 <max_posedon> SetFunctionality for power on anthena? yep.
Mar 09 08:55:47 <JaMa> max_posedon: but then phoneuid dies after every call (call is started, but no gui to stop it and you have to start phoneuid after call)
Mar 09 08:56:05 <max_posedon> ah, nope, I *should* wait)
Mar 09 08:56:29 <JaMa> :)
Mar 09 08:57:09 <JaMa> mickey|office: seen msgs from night?
Mar 09 09:01:46 <BillK> spaetz: sorry, missed your reply a couple of hours back - player as in what plays ringtoneon incoming call
Mar 09 09:02:14 <vanous123> JaMa: why did you go for fsogsmd?
Mar 09 09:02:37 <vanous123> JaMa: is gprs working with fsogsmd?
Mar 09 09:03:06 <BillK> spaetz: anyhow, traced problem to missing symbol in sound module in kernel (debug patch failed - removed it) - working now
Mar 09 09:03:46 <JaMa> vanous123: I like experimental stuff and don't worry about phone (I use other devices when I need)
Mar 09 09:04:00 <JaMa> vanous123: haven't tried gprs or even sms yet
Mar 09 09:04:07 <vanous123> JaMa: i see
Mar 09 09:04:18 <JaMa> vanous123: but speed and mem usage is great.. 
Mar 09 09:04:37 <vanous123> JaMa: wonna go for fsogsmd as current framework breaks after gprs disconnection
Mar 09 09:04:42 <vanous123> JaMa: sounds good
Mar 09 09:04:55 <vanous123> JaMa: had tried fsogsmd previously but it wasn't ready yet
Mar 09 09:05:05 <DocScrutinizer> yeah, it's a pitty to hear reports indicating usability of SHR is ever decreasing since shr-U_0808
Mar 09 09:05:10 <JaMa> vanous123: see what problem I had.. (mostly not from fsogsmd)
Mar 09 09:09:20 * JaMa building bootchart-lite to see how fast we can boot without uded :)
Mar 09 09:10:22 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: btw, bunnie rated wikireader really high.
Mar 09 09:16:18 <mrmoku> Package libelementary-ver-pr version (null) has no valid architecture, ignoring.
Mar 09 09:16:21 <mrmoku> hmm
Mar 09 09:17:00 <mrmoku> JaMa: any idea about that one?
Mar 09 09:17:20 <mrmoku> got that after restarting opkg upgrade when the first run segfaulted
Mar 09 09:18:07 <JaMa> mrmoku: someone reported that status file gets truncated for him, can you check if your file looks ok?
Mar 09 09:18:41 <mrmoku> ok
Mar 09 09:20:10 <DocScrutinizer> yeeha, still segfaults on buildhost? :-S
Mar 09 09:21:04 <DocScrutinizer> aaah, opkg segfault
Mar 09 09:21:18 <DocScrutinizer> nah, that's nothing new
Mar 09 09:21:52 <JaMa> no broken ram shifted to another xen host..
Mar 09 09:21:57 <max_posedon> mrmoku, are you sure that your links just not broken?
Mar 09 09:22:19 <DocScrutinizer> JaMa: :-P
Mar 09 09:22:26 <max_posedon> I had same just after upgrade before corret update alternatives
Mar 09 09:22:28 <max_posedon> *correct
Mar 09 09:23:36 <mrmoku> JaMa: which status file? stuff in /var/lib/opkg looks fine on fast look
Mar 09 09:23:55 <morphis> somebody knows how I tell oe not to extract a entry of SRC_URI during do_unpack?
Mar 09 09:24:23 <JaMa> With every install or upgrade process he file /usr/lib/opkg/status  is written to a size of 229376 bytes and nothing more.
Mar 09 09:24:29 <morphis> I only want to copy a file from file:// into the work directory
Mar 09 09:24:35 <max_posedon> morphis, write custom src_unpack?
Mar 09 09:24:43 <JaMa> mrmoku: [Shr-User] opkg segfaults - again
Mar 09 09:24:50 <mrmoku> ok
Mar 09 09:24:50 <max_posedon> (function can be named little different in OE)
Mar 09 09:25:00 <morphis> max_posedon: no possibility to append an argument to the SRC_URI?
Mar 09 09:25:30 <JaMa> morphis: its some file ending with .zip,.tar.gz or whatever pack right?
Mar 09 09:25:38 <morphis> hm
Mar 09 09:26:04 <morphis> it's jar .jar file
Mar 09 09:26:11 <morphis> it's a dependency of the source I download within the recipe
Mar 09 09:26:38 <morphis> and I can't ship this file cause legal issues
Mar 09 09:28:26 <JaMa> first "stupid" solution would be add file://abcd.jar.nounpack and then mv abcd.jar.nounpack abcd.jar ie in do_configure_preppend or whereever you need it
Mar 09 09:28:52 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... /usr/lib/opkg/status looks correct too
Mar 09 09:28:53 <morphis> jep, that was even my first solution
Mar 09 09:28:58 <mrmoku> at least the last entry is complete
Mar 09 09:29:01 <morphis> but thats a little bit hackisch ..
Mar 09 09:29:11 <mrmoku> and as it's not alphabetically... no idea if there is something missing
Mar 09 09:39:55 <TAsn> JaMa, thanks. Though are you sure you had proper locale there? Because I have.
Mar 09 09:41:44 <graziano> mmmm
Mar 09 09:41:45 <graziano> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Mar 09 09:47:24 <JaMa> TAsn: have you tried to regen binary locale on neo with localedef?
Mar 09 09:47:36 <TAsn> yes
Mar 09 09:47:46 <TAsn> That's what fixed it last time
Mar 09 09:47:48 <TAsn> but not this time
Mar 09 09:48:07 <JaMa> I'm not sure about proper locale..
Mar 09 09:48:41 <JaMa> as I never tried it before (using national chars in efl based app...)
Mar 09 09:49:22 <TAsn> btw did you rebuild frameworkd after my commit last night?
Mar 09 09:53:46 <JaMa> TAsn: yes.. but didn't commit it yet.. 
Mar 09 09:53:59 <TAsn> so please do, we don't want people to use it
Mar 09 09:54:07 <TAsn> the broken frameworkd
Mar 09 09:54:12 <JaMa> TAsn: waiting for some fixes from mickey to push it to oe.dev
Mar 09 09:54:26 <JaMa> TAsn: no right revision is in feeds from shr buildhost..
Mar 09 09:54:44 <TAsn> what revision is in feed?
Mar 09 09:55:08 <JaMa> Upgrading frameworkd on root from 1:0.9.5.9+gitr1727+f9240762be27356f66bd7bc0b5526dfdb9412491-r2.4 to 1:0.9.5.9+gitr1729+613c4af0c982c9e47eccc1a2cd8e81897b3a45fd-r3.4...
Mar 09 09:55:25 <TAsn> sweet :)
Mar 09 09:56:36 <TAsn> regenerated the utf8 locale
Mar 09 09:56:37 <JaMa> but next build on shr buildhost will pull f9240762be27356f66bd7bc0b5526dfdb9412491 so I need to push my fso2+frameworkd upgrade first, but it fails to build after last few commits
Mar 09 09:56:38 <TAsn> and nothing :|
Mar 09 10:06:40 <JaMa> Heinervdm: koen just bumped webkit-gtk a lot, is it somehow possible to build shared webcore and then gtk/efl as frontends in separate recipe? otherwise webkit-gtk will be bad PN if efl can be enabled in this recipe
Mar 09 10:20:30 <TAsn> JaMa, I'm pretty sure it's not a locale issue
Mar 09 10:20:41 <TAsn> just tested that aspect
Mar 09 10:21:09 <TAsn> I guess we need to investigate e again.
Mar 09 10:21:20 <TAsn> mrmoku, what about that 'ls -lR /' ?
Mar 09 10:21:34 <TAsn> mrmoku, what about that 'ls -lR / > mrmoku.files' ?
Mar 09 10:21:36 <TAsn> actually :)
Mar 09 10:22:08 <TAsn> brb food.
Mar 09 10:22:47 <JaMa> TAsn: you can try to downgrade efl, but it's a bit painfull as opkg won't allow it easily..
Mar 09 10:23:19 <JaMa> TAsn: and after bisecting that old python-elementary random crash issue I'm not going to do that again :/
Mar 09 10:34:00 <Q-Master> TAsn: woohoo, you've fired the new opimd to upstream. 8) 
Mar 09 10:37:10 <Heinervdm> JaMa: don't know if it's possible to activate 2 ports in one build...
Mar 09 10:37:35 <Heinervdm> I think it isn't
Mar 09 10:37:48 <JaMa> Heinervdm: ah, so they can share SRC_URI, but build even the same "core" twice, right?
Mar 09 10:38:06 <Heinervdm> but we should try to split webkit in webkit-core recipe and webkit-port recipe
Mar 09 10:38:15 <JaMa> Heinervdm: then I would fear overwritting files in staging between webkit-gtk/webkit-efl again
Mar 09 10:38:17 <Heinervdm> JaMa: i think so
Mar 09 10:38:33 <JaMa> Heinervdm: ah webkit-core/webkit-port looks good to me
Mar 09 10:38:40 <mrmoku> TAsn: sent
Mar 09 10:38:55 <Heinervdm> JaMa: but i don't know if it's possible
Mar 09 10:39:26 <JaMa> ok I was just curiouse when seeing that bump
Mar 09 10:39:45 <JaMa> as it takes so long to build it, then sharing as much possible would be great
Mar 09 10:40:56 <Heinervdm> the webkit-gtk recipe doesn't use the original Makefile...
Mar 09 10:56:11 <Heinervdm> JaMa: webkit-efl isn't avaible in the cofigure.ac of webkit
Mar 09 10:56:24 <Heinervdm> i think that part of the integration is still missing
Mar 09 10:57:48 <spaetz> BillK: ok, good that you could solve it.
Mar 09 11:00:30 <graziano> spaetz: I wrote a quick and dirty review on SHR testing on the user mailing list, maybe you could find it useful (well maybe not :D)
Mar 09 11:06:13 <spaetz> I've glanced over it and will reply soon. Pretty busy at work.
Mar 09 11:11:12 <graziano> ok thanks
Mar 09 11:11:27 <graziano> anyway great work, I really appreciate the release
Mar 09 11:11:59 <graziano> as soon as my request of subscription to shr-devel will be approved I will send there the pingus+xboard tarball
Mar 09 11:22:10 <JaMa> afaik there is no such thing as needed approval for subscription to shr-devel
Mar 09 11:24:02 <graziano> mmm
Mar 09 11:24:18 <graziano> I subscribed but I never got the confirmation email..
Mar 09 11:24:30 <graziano> which I got for -user instead
Mar 09 11:30:21 <Heinervdm> graziano: i think there is an option to resend that mail
Mar 09 11:30:44 <graziano> thanks will try that
Mar 09 11:30:59 <graziano> lunch now
Mar 09 11:34:42 <Heinervdm> graziano: can't find a link for the options page, but you just have to go to http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/options/shr-devel
Mar 09 11:41:52 <mickey|office> JaMa: i think you need to rebuild libfsotransport as well
Mar 09 11:42:34 <JaMa> mickey|office: already rebuilt
Mar 09 11:42:58 <mickey|office> and still compile errors?
Mar 09 11:43:02 <TAsn> mrmoku, thanks.
Mar 09 11:43:04 <JaMa> mickey|office: but with that installed (and old fsogsmd) fsogsmd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libfsogsm.so.0: undefined symbol: fso_framework_command_queue_command_get_type
Mar 09 11:44:02 <JaMa> mickey|office: I bumped whole cornucopia rev + fso-specs and fso-glib
Mar 09 11:46:29 <JaMa> mickey|office: and the second fsotdld? quick glance at last commits seems like you renamed baseCommandQueue to abstractCommandQueue or something like this.. so I guess that the error is expected
Mar 09 11:50:37 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07framework * rc82491af313c 10/tools/opimd_convert_db: Applied timestamps issue patch (in some cases importing data would fail without this patch) from Justus Winter.
Mar 09 11:50:49 <TAsn> JaMa, sorry, please build frameworkd again :P Someone sent me a patch in ML
Mar 09 11:53:01 <Mirv> Weiss: might be indeed related, although I was not successful trying to backport the diff to 1.7. but maybe indeed the problem might lie with EXA on kernel memory-managed drivers or something
Mar 09 11:53:15 <Mirv> maybe some SHR user could try out literki with KMS :)
Mar 09 11:54:13 <TAsn> mrmoku, except for elm_finger_size our env is exactly the same
Mar 09 11:56:25 <mickey|office> JaMa: yes, fsotdld needs to get its own queue for NMEA and other protocols
Mar 09 11:57:46 <mickey|office> JaMa: no idea about that symbol lookup problem though; that still seems to indicate a compile problem
Mar 09 12:00:48 <TAsn> ok mrmoku/jama: ls -lR VERY BAD IDEA :)
Mar 09 12:00:53 <TAsn> doesn't show full path
Mar 09 12:01:00 <TAsn> and it's terribly annoying
Mar 09 12:01:01 <JaMa> mickey|office: here is whole log from that failed build http://paste.pocoo.org/show/187375/
Mar 09 12:01:04 <TAsn> furthermore, I don't want to see dates.
Mar 09 12:01:32 <JaMa> you can strip dates easily, but point taken for full path
Mar 09 12:02:57 <JaMa> TAsn: find / -type f -exec ls -l {} \;
Mar 09 12:03:25 <TAsn> that will still give me date
Mar 09 12:04:13 <mrmoku> ls -s
Mar 09 12:04:14 <mrmoku> ?
Mar 09 12:04:23 <TAsn> du -h ?
Mar 09 12:04:33 <mrmoku> on the file?
Mar 09 12:04:49 <TAsn> yeah
Mar 09 12:04:57 <mrmoku>   12 /sbin/halt.sysvinit
Mar 09 12:04:57 <mrmoku>   16 /sbin/shutdown.sysvinit
Mar 09 12:04:57 <mrmoku>   12 /sbin/generate-modprobe.conf
Mar 09 12:04:57 <mrmoku>   28 /sbin/logrotate
Mar 09 12:04:59 <mrmoku> not good?
Mar 09 12:05:05 <TAsn> great
Mar 09 12:05:06 <TAsn> :)
Mar 09 12:05:11 <TAsn> so do your magic
Mar 09 12:05:19 <TAsn> and let me know exactly what you did
Mar 09 12:05:22 <TAsn> ls -sR ?
Mar 09 12:05:30 <TAsn> oh, nvm I want full path
Mar 09 12:05:31 <mrmoku> running find / -type f -exec ls -s {} \; > /tmp/lslr-new.txt
Mar 09 12:05:34 <TAsn> so find ... 
Mar 09 12:05:34 <TAsn> ok
Mar 09 12:05:40 <TAsn> :)
Mar 09 12:05:58 * TAsn is doing the same thing
Mar 09 12:06:50 <TAsn> that will be annoying to review :( but whatever.
Mar 09 12:06:55 <TAsn> (different packages, etc)
Mar 09 12:09:29 <Weiss> Mirv: "mixed" in that context basically means "kernel memory manager" (there's "classic" EXA (fbdev-style), "driver pixmaps" (driver provides MM, probably via kernel), and "mixed mode pixmaps" - a combination of both)
Mar 09 12:10:54 <TAsn> btw mrmoku when did you last opkg upgraded?
Mar 09 12:11:18 <TAsn> because I upgraded *now*
Mar 09 12:11:23 <TAsn> just to make sure we are in sync
Mar 09 12:12:58 <JaMa> Weiss: have you talked with larsc about merging gdrm-2.6.32 branch to om-gta02-2.6.32? (just noticed that you pushed it to openmoko.org repo)
Mar 09 12:13:59 <JaMa> Weiss: and as you asked about what problems needs to be solved before setting 2.6.32 as new default.. I still need to use longer rootdelay to boot from uSD properly and for some uSD it's maybe still not enough
Mar 09 12:15:16 <TAsn> mrmoku, please opkg upgrade before making me this list :P
Mar 09 12:15:23 <TAsn> ciao for the meanwhile
Mar 09 12:17:06 <Weiss> JaMa: not yet.. probably should do so. the non-KMS situation is probably broken quite heavily by my modifications to JBT
Mar 09 12:18:57 <JaMa> but that's not pushed to jbt6k74-2.6.32 branch.. so maybe larsc would insist on spliting those changes to right branches and then merge it togheter
Mar 09 12:19:14 <PaulFertser> Wild guess: probably deprecate non-KMS on 2.6.32 altogether?
Mar 09 12:19:32 <PaulFertser> One less thing to care about
Mar 09 12:19:50 <PaulFertser> The latest intel driver doesn't support UMS e.g.
Mar 09 12:20:58 <Weiss> maybe.. SHR is probably ready for that, but other distros maybe not..
Mar 09 12:21:12 <Q-Master> does anyone know how fork@
Mar 09 12:21:15 <Q-Master> works?
Mar 09 12:21:17 <PaulFertser> Weiss: other distros do not take part in kernel development anyway
Mar 09 12:21:20 <Weiss> (KMS's "synthetic" framebuffer doesn't behave like a normal FB)
Mar 09 12:22:04 <Weiss> at worst it can be pushed into a separate driver and have a choice of configurations, though
Mar 09 12:22:05 <JaMa> larsc is working on openwrt isn't he?
Mar 09 12:22:08 <PaulFertser> Weiss: and i'm sure debian folks can provide users with up-to-date x.org driver...
Mar 09 12:22:10 <graziano> Heinervdm: thank you I will check it
Mar 09 12:22:23 <PaulFertser> JaMa: he is, yes
Mar 09 12:22:40 <PaulFertser> JaMa: but i guess using bleeding-edge x.org driver is not a problem for openwrt.
Mar 09 12:22:40 <JaMa> so at least it's 2nd distro which needs support first I guess :)
Mar 09 12:24:42 <JaMa> TAsn: newer frameworkd in feeds
Mar 09 12:24:49 <TAsn> thanks.
Mar 09 12:24:52 <Weiss> does GSM work with 2.6.32 currently?
Mar 09 12:25:48 <JaMa> yes
Mar 09 12:26:11 <Weiss> cool :D.. that means I can probably upgrade my daily phone to 2.6.32+KMS (which helps a lot with testing)
Mar 09 12:26:37 <JaMa> but the change needs to by synchronized with fsodeviced/fsogsmd config change frameworkd sysfs node path modification and fsodeviced alsa states change
Mar 09 12:26:47 <Weiss> ah ok
Mar 09 12:27:00 <Weiss> flag day style, or can it be done in a compatible way?
Mar 09 12:27:11 <JaMa> which is exactly what that switch-kernel script does
Mar 09 12:27:47 <JaMa> it's hardcoded in frameworkd python code, but can be made compatible
Mar 09 12:28:37 <JaMa> and fsogsmd config I have no idea if mickey would accept 2 config options 2nd with _legacy postfix or whatever and trying both from his code or using some sort of dynamic find
Mar 09 12:30:20 <Weiss> hmm.. a little icky perhaps
Mar 09 12:30:39 <Weiss> lots of moaning about flag days on the LKML/DRI-devel lists in the last few days :S
Mar 09 12:30:43 <JaMa> maybe alsa states even more hacky :/
Mar 09 12:31:15 <JaMa> well it's pity when you cannot bisect because of graphics driver...
Mar 09 12:31:19 <Weiss> yeah
Mar 09 12:35:37 <Weiss> another thing I should really discuss with larsc is the licencing of xf86-video-glamo
Mar 09 12:36:04 <Weiss> I kind of prefer my bits to be under the GPL, which is compatible but changes the licence
Mar 09 12:36:43 * graziano is all for GPL licenses, better if version 3
Mar 09 12:37:23 <graziano> please remember that if you need help with licensing issues there is this useful email of the FSF:   licensing@fsf.org
Mar 09 12:37:30 <graziano> for suggestions, questions and so on
Mar 09 12:37:53 <graziano> they may help to solve incompatibility problems too
Mar 09 12:38:55 <JaMa> Weiss: and then talk about sending it upstream? :)
Mar 09 12:40:00 <Weiss> GPL for the overall package would effectively make it non-upstreamable
Mar 09 12:41:40 <Weiss> I'd go with the X11 licence if upstreaming was a big deal, and if larsc felt strongly about it, but I'd prefer GPL
Mar 09 12:48:17 <mrmoku> TAsn: I upgraded too before doing the first lslr.txt
Mar 09 12:48:21 <mrmoku> the find is still running
Mar 09 12:48:23 <mrmoku> takes endles :/
Mar 09 12:48:52 <larsc> i don't think there is a proper upstream for xf86-video-glamo
Mar 09 12:49:37 <larsc> JaMa: regarding rootdelay. use rootwait instead.
Mar 09 12:49:42 <TAsn> mrmoku, same here ;(
Mar 09 12:50:15 <CIA-29> SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * r561994538eb5 10/src/view/contact-view.c: Fixed adding contacts from outside sources, for insntance: messages app and phonelog
Mar 09 12:50:16 <CIA-29> SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * raee6af3f71ce 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'contacts' of git+ssh://git.shr-project.org/libphone-ui-shr into contacts
Mar 09 12:50:23 * TAsn fixed an unfortunate bug :P
Mar 09 12:50:54 <JaMa> larsc: ok will try, thanks
Mar 09 12:52:30 <Weiss> larsc: maybe.. I heard a rumour (maybe that's just all it is, though) about drivers going back into the X.org server tree
Mar 09 12:53:07 <larsc> JaMa: imo that the best solution, cause it will mount the rootfs as soon as it is available.
Mar 09 12:53:48 <TAsn> phew, find finally done.
Mar 09 12:55:20 <Mirv> Weiss/PaulFertser: Debian's xf86-video-glamo is ready for KMS, it has just been disabled. When Debian starts to offer 2.6.32 kernel (with KMS), it's only a matter of offering libdrm-glamo via pkg-fso repository, recompile xf86-video-glamo without disabling KMS and it will just work.
Mar 09 12:56:31 <Mirv> well the matter of libdrm-glamo will take some work in form of rebasing libdrm glamo work on top of Debian's current version et cetera, but otherwise it's not a big deal
Mar 09 12:57:05 <Mirv> it's mostly thinking again about what parts go to official Debian and what reside in pkg-fso
Mar 09 12:57:26 <Weiss> Mirv: is Debian using an older, newer or just modified version than what libdrm Glamo is already based on?
Mar 09 13:16:45 <Mirv> Weiss: well I forget what your libdrm is based on, but as I think you recently updated it and Debian is at 2.4.18, they are quite similar
Mar 09 13:17:02 <Mirv> (or possibly exactly...)
Mar 09 13:19:57 <graziano> ahahahahah
Mar 09 13:19:58 <graziano> http://www.gizmodo.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/dopo_ipad.jpg
Mar 09 13:22:36 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * rc07933f056c6 10/palmpre/webos-libs/ (Makefile scripts/generate-libs-install-script): palmpre/webos-libs: add script to install libs from a available webos rootfs
Mar 09 13:22:42 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * re124b9986958 10/palmpre/hid-uinput/ (12 files in 2 dirs): palmpre/hid-uinput: add initial version of our tool to forward hidd input events to uinput
Mar 09 13:22:42 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r2eea29ad528d 10/palmpre/webos-libs/ (5 files in 5 dirs): palmpre/webos-libs: add 'install-libs' target and generate an install script for webos libs
Mar 09 13:22:42 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r0755e87e2dab 10/palmpre/webos-libs/packages/ (10 files in 10 dirs): palmpre/webos-libs: add some additional webos libs as dependencies of hidlib/hidd
Mar 09 13:22:43 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r36a6b71337e7 10/palmpre/webos-libs/packages/dbus-lib/Makefile: palmpre/webos-libs: remove dbus-lib package
Mar 09 13:23:30 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: you asked me long ago to list sqlite contact tables of maemo. look here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Generic_Platform_Components/Using_Address_Book_API
Mar 09 13:23:54 <DocScrutinizer> :-o
Mar 09 13:24:11 <DocScrutinizer> anyway, it's vcard basically
Mar 09 14:05:18 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: here's very interesting description of how some "chinese copies" of cellphones done: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=284
Mar 09 14:10:34 <spaetz> do people agree that I should take away Illume2 from shr-T?
Mar 09 14:10:54 <spaetz> It is not really ready yet and I think it is selected by default in the profile selector
Mar 09 14:13:38 <JaMaWrk> I think that advise users to use illume1 in announcement would be enought, but it's your call
Mar 09 14:14:44 <spaetz> well, I think I can advice as much as I want. People will still chose it. :)
Mar 09 14:14:53 <spaetz> I would move it from task-shr-minimal into the feed
Mar 09 14:15:05 <JaMaWrk> but then it's their fault and they shouldn't complain :)
Mar 09 14:15:07 <spaetz> so it is still available for those who want to play with it.
Mar 09 14:15:42 <spaetz> Would that be an ok choice for shr-U too, or should I make that shr-T specific?
Mar 09 14:16:20 <JaMaWrk> probably ask task.. he prepared illume2 config
Mar 09 14:16:43 <JaMaWrk> ask TAsn 
Mar 09 14:16:48 <JaMaWrk> :)
Mar 09 14:17:10 <spaetz> ok, I'll put it into testing for now, and if he makes a decision I'll pull it into dev.OE if needed
Mar 09 14:18:06 <TAsn> spaetz, illume2 is usable
Mar 09 14:18:16 <TAsn> it doesn't have all the shelf modules illume1 has
Mar 09 14:18:22 <TAsn> but that's ok
Mar 09 14:18:34 <TAsn> because there's the idle screen
Mar 09 14:18:37 <TAsn> anyhow, i'm off.
Mar 09 14:18:37 <TAsn> ciao.
Mar 09 14:23:14 <graziano> spaetz: illume2 is not selected by default in the profile screen
Mar 09 14:23:21 <graziano> I selected by myself
Mar 09 14:24:41 <graziano> in fact yesterday I was willing to ask here if it was a stable thing or "we are still working on it" thing
Mar 09 14:25:02 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: nice
Mar 09 14:34:50 <spaetz> graziano: ok, just replied to your mail btw
Mar 09 14:35:20 <graziano> spaetz: ok thank you 
Mar 09 14:35:44 <spaetz> I moved it away from the -testing image nonetheless, it's in the feed.
Mar 09 14:36:02 <spaetz> we can reconsider in a month or so when I do the next major shr-t upgrade.
Mar 09 14:36:55 <spaetz> graziano: BTW, this is the beginning of my latest toy: opkg.org done right: http://django.sspaeth.de/opkg/
Mar 09 14:37:55 <spaetz> just playing around really.
Mar 09 14:38:02 <graziano> wow let me see!
Mar 09 14:38:34 <graziano> nice
Mar 09 14:38:35 <spaetz> not much to see yet.
Mar 09 14:38:43 <graziano> well it's a start
Mar 09 14:38:47 <graziano> in the right direction :)
Mar 09 14:39:02 <spaetz> It is created automatically from what is available in the feed. It points to the .ipkg files that are available in the feeds.
Mar 09 14:39:13 <spaetz> and it will have user comments, a screenshot and ratings
Mar 09 14:39:23 <spaetz> plus a good search functionality.
Mar 09 14:39:43 <spaetz> and it shows the version numbers of shr-U vs shr-T :)
Mar 09 14:39:56 <spaetz> or at least, it will soon.
Mar 09 14:40:41 <graziano> wow!
Mar 09 14:40:44 <graziano> amazing!
Mar 09 14:40:52 <graziano> well done 
Mar 09 14:55:18 <mrmoku> spaetz: yeah, nice... we should have that on shr-project.org :)
Mar 09 14:55:58 <pbaxter> hello on new testing how to change status of gsm antenna to on?
Mar 09 15:09:49 <spaetz> mrmoku: yep, once it's useful :)
Mar 09 15:10:02 * spaetz just pushed some rev bumps to shr-T
Mar 09 15:10:05 <spaetz> rebuilding
Mar 09 15:10:48 <spaetz> pbaxter: check if there is an fso-abyss process running
Mar 09 15:11:01 <spaetz> if not, you suffered from the mysterious fso-abyss exit
Mar 09 15:11:24 <spaetz> which can be worked around by setting frameworkd.conf logging level to DEBUG (ugly)
Mar 09 15:11:42 <spaetz> also I just rebuild the latest versions of fso-abyss and frameworkd.
Mar 09 15:11:55 <spaetz> So perhaps an opkg upgrade in about an hour will help
Mar 09 15:16:30 * DocScrutinizer curses gsm antenna power, for being the most braindamaged word invented ever
Mar 09 15:17:11 <spaetz> :)
Mar 09 15:33:24 <beniwtv> Hey all... I just re-flashed the newest SHR-U. There are now 3 profiles for Illume. Which one should one choose? I.e. which one is developed for/by SHR?
Mar 09 15:40:01 <DocScrutinizer> illume1 or somesuch
Mar 09 15:40:23 <DocScrutinizer> illume-shr1?
Mar 09 15:40:40 <mrmoku> beniwtv: one of the two shr ones
Mar 09 15:40:45 <mrmoku> which one is up to you :P
Mar 09 15:41:04 <DocScrutinizer> nope, 2 is BAD, I heard
Mar 09 15:41:53 <DocScrutinizer> [2010-03-07 20:07:16] <TAsn> pbaxter, <pbaxter> illume2 is a lot slower than illume1
Mar 09 15:41:57 <beniwtv> mrmoku: I heard Illume2 is not quite ready yet... what  DocScrutinizer said :P
Mar 09 15:42:08 <beniwtv> but I wasn't sure
Mar 09 15:42:43 <mrmoku> beniwtv: yup, the one without 2 then :)
Mar 09 15:46:20 <beniwtv> Now, what I still miss is that the background picture goes only to the 3 buttons at the bottoms and then stops (i.e. there's a white background on both sides). But I hope Illume2 will fix that :)
Mar 09 15:47:28 <spaetz> Why is that non-SHR illume profile still there?
Mar 09 15:47:41 <spaetz> Didn't we remove it by default some time ago?
Mar 09 15:47:52 <spaetz> because it is really unusable on the FR.
Mar 09 15:58:46 <blindcoder> g'afternoon
Mar 09 15:58:58 <blindcoder> say, short question: how do I start applications on illume2?
Mar 09 15:59:10 <blindcoder> If I click once, nothing happens, if I click twice I got two instances
Mar 09 16:01:51 * spaetz mumbles *2 not ready yet and disappears
Mar 09 16:03:22 <blindcoder> okay :)
Mar 09 16:04:14 <spaetz> tasn says otherwise...
Mar 09 16:08:54 <blindcoder> //usr/lib/opkg/info/frameworkd.postinst: line 13: syntax error: unexpected ")"
Mar 09 16:10:43 <JaMaWrk> spaetzAway: illume2-shr will still be in testin junles you -c clean it (as there is no PR bump)
Mar 09 16:10:57 <JaMaWrk> spaetzAway: and with that frameworkd bump you need few more commits..
Mar 09 16:11:15 <JaMaWrk> spaetzAway: otherwise you will get what blindcoder says
Mar 09 16:11:24 <spaetzAway> JaMaWrk: I do? oh no. Shit. What else is needed?
Mar 09 16:11:33 <JaMaWrk> missing " fix
Mar 09 16:11:39 <spaetzAway> I'll need to leave very soon.
Mar 09 16:11:44 * JaMaWrk too
Mar 09 16:11:48 <spaetzAway> I must have missed that in the git logs.
Mar 09 16:11:53 <spaetzAway> Is that in the OE log?
Mar 09 16:12:20 <JaMaWrk> sure
Mar 09 16:12:41 <spaetzAway> I think I did cherrypick it.
Mar 09 16:12:45 <spaetzAway> But will do if I haven't
Mar 09 16:14:08 <spaetzAway> ok, pushed the quote fix
Mar 09 16:14:21 <mrmoku> blindcoder: I noticed it works somehow better when you hit the icon with your fingernail and a bit longer
Mar 09 16:14:23 <JaMaWrk> 509dbd7d97ca5544ce6fe287f0465b9d86aad2f3
Mar 09 16:14:37 <spaetzAway> yep, already cherry-picked
Mar 09 16:14:40 <spaetzAway> thanks
Mar 09 16:14:55 <JaMaWrk> yw
Mar 09 16:14:56 <spaetzAway> I do hate those PV/REV conflicts :)
Mar 09 16:15:01 * JaMaWrk too
Mar 09 16:15:14 * JaMaWrk sent another SRCPV email today :)
Mar 09 16:15:56 <spaetzAway> ok, really away now.
Mar 09 16:16:05 <spaetzAway> new image compiling on build host
Mar 09 16:16:19 <JaMaWrk> spaetzAway: btw if you remove illume2 config from task-shr-minimal then I'm not sure what will happen with users already using that if it gets uninstalled automatically with opkg upgrade
Mar 09 16:16:39 <JaMaWrk> spaetzAway: it won't happen without that PR bump.. but will with next one..
Mar 09 16:17:29 <blindcoder> mrmoku: great, and my gf just made me cut my fingernails :)
Mar 09 16:17:35 <mrmoku> :P
Mar 09 16:17:52 <blindcoder> guess I'll switch back to *1 for now
Mar 09 16:18:11 <JaMaWrk> spaetzAway: and you can switch to illume1 even from e menu (no need to .e, but I guess that's safer with removal)
Mar 09 16:18:23 <mrmoku> mickey|office: how is SetFunctionality supposed to play with PIN? I try first without and then get a SIM error if it needs one and recall with PIN?
Mar 09 16:21:36 <mrmoku> mickey|office: and is there some documentation for level?
Mar 09 16:22:04 <alexxy> mrmoku: JaMaWrk : TAsn : is opimd conversion supposed to work?
Mar 09 16:23:08 <mrmoku> alexxy: I hope so ;)
Mar 09 16:23:13 <JaMaWrk> TAsn says so.. I have no idea
Mar 09 16:23:28 <alexxy> i cannot see any of my contacs or messages
Mar 09 16:23:30 <JaMaWrk> but it did something here (fast) when I tried it
Mar 09 16:23:41 <alexxy> after i run it and dropped old databases
Mar 09 16:23:57 <alexxy> pim.db is about 1.5M in size
Mar 09 16:27:36 <alexxy> opimd-cli doesnt work 
Mar 09 16:28:07 <alexxy> http://dpaste.com/169977/
Mar 09 16:33:22 <alexxy> mrmoku: TAsn: JaMaWrk: also i get this in phoneuid.log http://dpaste.com/169979/
Mar 09 16:36:27 <alexxy> mrmoku: TAsn: JaMaWrk: also frameworkd seems dyed when i tryed to list messages
Mar 09 16:37:27 <mrmoku> alexxy: that is your problem... frameworkd not running (or died)
Mar 09 16:38:07 <alexxy> its dyed
Mar 09 16:50:02 <alexxy> hmm
Mar 09 16:51:59 <alexxy> also seems i cannot make a call with latest update
Mar 09 16:55:11 <alexxy> mrmoku: ^^
Mar 09 17:41:11 <alabd> good day all 
Mar 09 17:42:24 <JaMaWrk> hi alabd 
Mar 09 17:42:59 <alabd> JaMa,  hi , do you use shr or debian only ?
Mar 09 17:44:15 <lindi-> # echo mem > /sys/power/state
Mar 09 17:44:16 <lindi-> bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy
Mar 09 17:44:18 <lindi-> hmm?
Mar 09 17:47:03 <JaMa> alabd: shr only
Mar 09 17:50:05 <alabd> lindi-, with reboot error exists ?
Mar 09 17:50:54 <alabd> JaMa,  so where to get best builds ?here  http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/ ?
Mar 09 17:51:54 <alabd> Heinervdm, hi , are  you sure latest shr-t image has that patched bluez 
Mar 09 17:52:27 <lindi-> alabd: ?
Mar 09 17:52:50 <alabd> lindi-, after reboot , does error exist ?
Mar 09 17:53:03 <lindi-> alabd: i don't want to reboot, i want to investigate the bug
Mar 09 17:53:21 <Heinervdm> alabd: i said that my bleuz package should be installable in new testing, and not that it's in testing by default
Mar 09 17:53:28 <JaMa> alabd: yes as always there
Mar 09 17:53:54 <alabd> Heinervdm,  humble also that , will it be installed surely ? 
Mar 09 17:54:08 <JaMa> lindi-: I gues it worked for you before too
Mar 09 17:54:19 <JaMa> lindi-: as it works for me "usually"
Mar 09 17:54:24 <Heinervdm> alabd: yes, because new testing is the same as unstable
Mar 09 17:54:30 <alabd> JaMa, is formating required to flashing new shr-t ?
Mar 09 17:54:47 <alabd> Heinervdm, thanks will try it amen
Mar 09 17:54:51 <JaMa> it's better if you do, but not required
Mar 09 17:55:13 <alabd> JaMa,  why better ?
Mar 09 17:55:45 <lindi-> JaMa: yes
Mar 09 17:55:55 <lindi-> JaMa: but usually is not good enough for me :)
Mar 09 17:59:07 <spaetz> alabd, formatng can help if the filesystem had errors, otherwise it is not needed, i would say
Mar 09 17:59:11 <alabd> JaMa,  is it possible to have /home partition on NAND ?
Mar 09 17:59:17 <graziano> upgrading my shr-t
Mar 09 17:59:55 <alabd> spaetz, hi thanks
Mar 09 18:03:22 <lindi-> alabd: filed as bug  https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2334
Mar 09 18:10:42 <graziano> mmm
Mar 09 18:10:48 <graziano> I upgraded shr testing and rebooted
Mar 09 18:11:00 <graziano> but gsm antenna is always off and can't switch to on
Mar 09 18:11:17 <lindi-> graziano: antennas are passive devices, they aren't on or off :)
Mar 09 18:12:04 <graziano> lindi-, then it's time to find a new wording for the "gsm antenna" writing on shr-settings - phone
Mar 09 18:12:59 <lindi-> graziano: yep it's confusing
Mar 09 18:26:35 <alabd> graziano,  why don't you flash new shr ?
Mar 09 18:26:44 <alabd> is it possible to have /home partition on NAND ?  
Mar 09 18:28:57 <alabd> or /root
Mar 09 18:29:23 <spaetz> alabd, if you flash shr to nand, /home and /root will also be on nand
Mar 09 18:29:53 <spaetz> graziano, do you have an fso-abyss process running?
Mar 09 18:33:39 <max_posedon> DocScrutinizer, thanks for a link!
Mar 09 18:33:52 <DocScrutinizer> yw
Mar 09 18:34:55 <DocScrutinizer> if you manage to figure how to easily interface that shit, via python or cmdline, to e.g. find a full contact info for an inbound number - please ping me :-)
Mar 09 18:37:57 <DocScrutinizer> I managed to find statements there's no decent python binding. And you need to use ctypes or somesuch shit
Mar 09 18:39:13 <max_posedon> sorry, they use eds
Mar 09 18:39:24 <max_posedon> I don't even want touch it), just take some ideas)
Mar 09 18:39:51 <max_posedon> but I think you can try find some eds apps
Mar 09 18:40:06 <DocScrutinizer> they do, but have anothe 2 or 3 abstraction layers above and beneath
Mar 09 18:40:52 <DocScrutinizer> widgets, osso-abook 
Mar 09 18:42:56 <DocScrutinizer> max_posedon: (take ideas) yeah, but don't copy the borked API please :-P
Mar 09 18:50:14 <graziano> spaetz, no
Mar 09 18:51:05 <alabd> spaetz, , The NAND Flash is divided into 3 partitions for the bootloader, kernel, and root filesystem. Each component can be flashed separately wiki said http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner
Mar 09 18:51:18 <alabd> so there is not home partition 
Mar 09 18:51:24 <alabd> is there?
Mar 09 18:53:29 <JaMa> alabd: /home is usually normal dir in root filesystem
Mar 09 18:53:40 <JaMa> alabd: but of course you can change that as you like
Mar 09 18:54:21 <JaMa> alabd: ie have root filesystem on 1st partition on uSD and its /home mounted from 2nd uSD partition or nand partition (instead of rootfs there)
Mar 09 18:57:41 <alabd> JaMa,  The NAND Flash is divided into 3 partitions for the bootloader, kernel, and root filesystem. Each component can be flashed separately. 
Mar 09 18:57:54 <alabd> how to create new partition ?
Mar 09 18:58:12 <JaMa> in nand? that's a bit harder
Mar 09 18:58:47 <alabd> JaMa, what is NOR memory ? how much is it's space?
Mar 09 18:58:48 <JaMa> => you probably don't want that and for sure you don't need that
Mar 09 18:59:34 <JaMa> enough for u-boot bootloader and definitely not enough for your /home (RO /home is not good)
Mar 09 18:59:50 <alabd> JaMa,  you know when we reinstall shr , we can hold on settings with /root partition 
Mar 09 19:00:19 <alabd> not /home 
Mar 09 19:10:39 <alabd> what is NOR space  ?
Mar 09 19:10:54 <spaetz> graziano, no fso-abyss is bad. 
Mar 09 19:11:17 <graziano> ps aux |grep abyss
Mar 09 19:11:20 <graziano> did not return anything
Mar 09 19:11:24 <spaetz> It means that weirdd bug has not gone away....
Mar 09 19:11:33 <graziano> I upgraded and rebooted it
Mar 09 19:12:10 <spaetz> try to workaround by setting fraameworkd.conf logging level to DEBUG and see  if that helps
Mar 09 19:12:41 <spaetz> If yes, it is the same mysterious bug....
Mar 09 19:22:06 <JaMa> alabd: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ST_M58WR016KB706E
Mar 09 19:27:15 <JaMa> linking /sbin/init to /usr/bin/bootchart-lite is not good idea :)
Mar 09 19:29:47 <mrmoku> graziano, lindi-: SetAntennaPower is already renamed to SetFunctionality in gsogsmd
Mar 09 19:30:04 <GNUtoo|oeee> hi graziano 
Mar 09 19:30:43 <graziano> ehi :)
Mar 09 19:31:27 <graziano> mrmoku, I don't know if you are talking about the function inside the code, or the actual writing on the left of the slider on settings - phone
Mar 09 19:31:50 <mrmoku> I'm talking about the dbus method
Mar 09 19:32:08 <mrmoku> the one in settings we should have given a better naming long ago :/
Mar 09 19:32:39 <graziano> alabd, I am already using the latest shr-t
Mar 09 19:33:05 <JaMa> mrmoku: porting phone*d to fsogsmd?
Mar 09 19:33:07 <graziano> mrmoku, can't you rename it now?
Mar 09 19:34:29 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r01c994311391 10/ (37 files in 6 dirs): 
Mar 09 19:34:29 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: add libgsm0710mux and fso-abyss to the cornucopia directory
Mar 09 19:34:29 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: they are cornucopia subprojects and should have been here since
Mar 09 19:34:29 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: long
Mar 09 19:35:06 <mrmoku> JaMa: yup, started
Mar 09 19:35:25 <JaMa> mrmoku: great! thanks
Mar 09 19:35:30 <TAsn> illume2 is ready, there are claims about it being slower
Mar 09 19:35:37 <TAsn> (made by pbaxter)
Mar 09 19:35:45 <TAsn> alexxy, any problems with the conversion script?
Mar 09 19:35:47 <mrmoku> TAsn: and by me ;) (now)
Mar 09 19:35:54 <TAsn> please restart the phone after running it
Mar 09 19:35:55 <TAsn> :)
Mar 09 19:35:55 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: do you still have these questions after consulting the docs?
Mar 09 19:35:57 <TAsn> mrmoku, shit :)
Mar 09 19:36:00 <mickey|zzZZzz> i.e. do i have to improve the docs?
Mar 09 19:36:07 <mrmoku> mickey|zzZZzz: moment
Mar 09 19:36:17 <Weiss> TAsn: I think the theme shouldn't try to "slowly dim" when starting a program (hopefully you know what I mean), but I think it's a lot faster apart from that
Mar 09 19:36:40 <pbaxter> TAsn, IMHO illume2 is a lot slower than illume
Mar 09 19:36:52 <mickeyl> hmm, whew
Mar 09 19:36:59 <mickeyl> there's something missing here
Mar 09 19:37:06 <mrmoku> mickeyl: I didn't find doc for the level para
Mar 09 19:37:36 <mickeyl> bummer
Mar 09 19:37:40 <mickeyl> i think my codegen is broken
Mar 09 19:37:45 <mickeyl> take a look at the source file
Mar 09 19:37:46 <mickeyl> it's in there
Mar 09 19:37:50 <mickeyl> xml.in
Mar 09 19:37:51 <mrmoku> oh ok :)
Mar 09 19:39:43 <mickeyl> hmm, but it's only missing for some params
Mar 09 19:39:44 * mickeyl confused
Mar 09 19:40:11 <mickeyl> aaah
Mar 09 19:40:13 <mickeyl> found it
Mar 09 19:40:28 <mickeyl> not wrapped in <doc:summary> 
Mar 09 19:40:30 * mickeyl fixes
Mar 09 19:42:38 <sicu> TAsn: should i change field_support to TRUE in PISI before converting from vcf to opimd ?
Mar 09 19:42:49 <sicu> or just leave it at default (false)?
Mar 09 19:43:04 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r08311b9dc589 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.GSM: add missing summary tags to fix param docs
Mar 09 19:43:35 <JaMa> http://jama.homelinux.org/Pictures/bootchart-2.6.32.9.r1.png Highlights: Xorg starting in 20th sec, enlightenment running in 45th
Mar 09 19:44:25 <mickeyl> mrmoku: that should be better now
Mar 09 19:44:32 <mrmoku> let me check ;)
Mar 09 19:45:01 <TAsn> sicu, TRUE
Mar 09 19:45:04 <mrmoku> ahh much better :)
Mar 09 19:45:05 <mrmoku> mickeyl: thanks
Mar 09 19:45:22 <TAsn> sicu, or in other words: SHIT forgot about it
Mar 09 19:45:30 <TAsn> the guys from pisi don't reply to my emails :(
Mar 09 19:45:51 <sicu> TAsn: ooops, hehe ;p
Mar 09 19:45:58 <graziano> TAsn, I can confirm illume2 is slower than illume1
Mar 09 19:46:26 <mickeyl> mrmoku: so the basic idea is you always call
Mar 09 19:46:30 <TAsn> graziano, please repeat that in #e :)
Mar 09 19:46:34 <mickeyl> SetFunctionality( "full", True, <PIN> )
Mar 09 19:46:43 <TAsn> graziano, nvm, dont
Mar 09 19:46:45 <TAsn> the dude is not there.
Mar 09 19:46:48 <graziano> TAsn, I fear to do this :)
Mar 09 19:46:53 <mickeyl> mrmoku: you just need to check whether device needs a PIN at all
Mar 09 19:47:19 <mrmoku> mickeyl: via error return on SetFunctionality or is there some other way?
Mar 09 19:48:11 <mickeyl> hmm, good question
Mar 09 19:48:34 <mickeyl> GetAuthStatus doesn't cut it in that case
Mar 09 19:48:43 <mickeyl> do you want an error?
Mar 09 19:49:05 <mrmoku> well that is what we did before
Mar 09 19:49:11 <mrmoku> check error for SetAntennaPower
Mar 09 19:49:18 <mickeyl> true, but we can rethink it
Mar 09 19:49:22 <mrmoku> and if it's a 'sim not auth' error send pin
Mar 09 19:49:22 <spaetz> we want  fso-abyss running :-) !
Mar 09 19:50:53 <mickeyl> spaetz: should runf ine
Mar 09 19:51:10 <mrmoku> spaetz: you need to get new stuff :P
Mar 09 19:51:12 <TAsn> JaMa, I officially changed my name
Mar 09 19:51:27 <TAsn> I'm no longer known as TAsn
Mar 09 19:51:38 <spaetz> mrmoku, I pulleed itt in 2h ago
Mar 09 19:51:42 <Locale-king> JaMa, found the issue (thanks to mrmoku)
Mar 09 19:51:43 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ahh, there is GetAuthRequired
Mar 09 19:51:57 <mrmoku> would that fit?
Mar 09 19:51:58 <Locale-king> JaMa, we are missing: libx11-locale
Mar 09 19:52:03 <spaetz> and people report no running fso-abyss
Mar 09 19:52:10 <Locale-king> JaMa, please add that to image :)
Mar 09 19:52:23 <spaetz> haven't tested myself yet
Mar 09 19:52:29 <mrmoku> err GetAuthCodeRequired
Mar 09 19:52:31 <mickeyl> mrmoku: i'm not sure whether this call is available at this stage, but worth a try
Mar 09 19:52:44 <mrmoku> ok, will try
Mar 09 19:52:55 <mickeyl> fsogsmd final will automatically AT+CFUN=1 on startup
Mar 09 19:53:00 <mickeyl> it doesn't yet i think
Mar 09 19:54:42 <sicu> TAsn: good job =]
Mar 09 19:54:57 <sicu> you can now go back to writing sms in hebrew ;)
Mar 09 19:55:06 <TAsn> you should thank mrmoku (or actually his moko) which I've been abusing all day :)
Mar 09 19:55:11 <TAsn> sicu, yeah :)
Mar 09 19:55:38 <mrmoku> ohh, yes... SD card is still hot :P
Mar 09 19:57:20 <JaMa> mrmoku: can you change your nick to Locale-princess? :) please...
Mar 09 19:57:41 <TAsn> JaMa, :P
Mar 09 19:57:56 <TAsn> JaMa, I got over excited :)
Mar 09 19:58:19 <JaMa> TAsn: check my bootchart :)
Mar 09 19:58:25 <JaMa> TAsn: http://jama.homelinux.org/Pictures/bootchart-2.6.32.9.r2.png
Mar 09 19:58:31 <JaMa> I'm quite happy too :)
Mar 09 20:00:15 <TAsn> will review
Mar 09 20:01:14 <TAsn> JaMa, cool :) what reduced the overall time?
Mar 09 20:01:21 <Weiss> JaMa: 2.6.32?
Mar 09 20:01:32 <mrmoku> JaMa: :P I refuse to do something like that ;)
Mar 09 20:01:54 <TAsn> JaMa, looks like 40 seconds from start to GUI
Mar 09 20:01:56 <TAsn> is it true?
Mar 09 20:02:34 <mrmoku> TAsn: udev killing I guess :)
Mar 09 20:03:08 <spaetz> batget startss in sec 40, nice indeed
Mar 09 20:03:21 <spaetz> i want that  ;-)
Mar 09 20:03:50 <JaMa> Weiss: yup
Mar 09 20:03:55 <TAsn> mrmoku, what do get intstead? and what do we loose?
Mar 09 20:04:11 <JaMa> devtmpfs
Mar 09 20:04:21 <mickeyl> JaMa: do you have a SRCREV in libgsm0710mux_git.bb as well?
Mar 09 20:04:24 <mickeyl> that looks wrong
Mar 09 20:04:44 <mickeyl> or is that the first bits to bring SRCREV into the files itself?
Mar 09 20:04:49 <mickeyl> if so, it should use SRCREV =? 
Mar 09 20:04:56 <mickeyl> otherwise autorev will not work
Mar 09 20:05:30 <spaetz> ahh, might have been me
Mar 09 20:05:48 <mrmoku> TAsn: btw. I added Get/SetDefaultBrightness to phonefsod :)
Mar 09 20:06:07 <spaetz> but that was a mistake
Mar 09 20:06:13 <mickeyl> k
Mar 09 20:06:17 <JaMa> mickeyl: autorev should work as it use -pn override IIRC
Mar 09 20:06:20 <spaetz> mickeyl, sorry
Mar 09 20:06:29 <mickeyl> hmm
Mar 09 20:06:58 <mickeyl> i no longer can follow all the subtle overrides and magic behaviour
Mar 09 20:07:12 <spaetz> neither can I
Mar 09 20:07:16 <JaMa> last time I checked it worked like this (that SRCREV with -pn was used instead of SRCREV specified in recipe without -pn)
Mar 09 20:07:16 <mickeyl> i'm still living in the days where what's written in the file had priority
Mar 09 20:07:27 <spaetz> too much magic going on.
Mar 09 20:07:33 <graziano> :)
Mar 09 20:07:43 <mickeyl> bbl
Mar 09 20:08:08 <JaMa> mickeyl: I expected this too.. but when I asked in #oe few months ago, someone said that this behavior is expected and right
Mar 09 20:08:59 <JaMa> mickey|tv: should I change recipes for libgsm0710mux and abyss to point to cornucopia repo, or do you want to do it?
Mar 09 20:09:13 <mickey|tv> doing it atm.
Mar 09 20:09:17 <graziano> spaetz, I set logging level to DEBUG and rebooted, still no fso-abyss and gsm antenna is off and won't switch to on
Mar 09 20:09:18 <mickey|tv> just launched a full rebuild from scratch
Mar 09 20:09:22 <graziano> just FYI
Mar 09 20:09:24 <mickey|tv> let me push it after it ran through
Mar 09 20:10:52 <JaMa> mickey|tv: ok, thanks
Mar 09 20:11:03 <JaMa> mickey|tv: enjoy tv :)
Mar 09 20:12:16 <mickey|tv> (tv is shortcut for spending the evening with the misses... not so much about the TV, but rather about having dinner and relaxing on the sofa a bit)
Mar 09 20:12:20 <mickey|tv> (for the records ;)
Mar 09 20:14:14 <spaetz> hehe
Mar 09 20:15:01 <graziano> :)
Mar 09 20:15:07 <graziano> I know that stuff
Mar 09 20:15:10 <graziano> it's interesting :D
Mar 09 20:21:18 <JaMa> TAsn: missing libx11-locale was my fault.. I'm deeply sorry Locale-king
Mar 09 20:26:04 <mrmoku> JaMa: so... sleep 60 && fsogsmd in the start script for fsodeviced?
Mar 09 20:26:50 <TAsn> JaMa, I believe your sincerity, and I forgive you. :)
Mar 09 20:27:00 <TAsn> mrmoku, get/set - super cool.
Mar 09 20:27:02 <TAsn> thanks.
Mar 09 20:27:20 <JaMa> mrmoku: no I have it without sleep, and then running script for SetFunctionality after sleep 60
Mar 09 20:27:32 <TAsn> JaMa, so it's there? opkg upgrade will pull it in?
Mar 09 20:27:42 <JaMa> TAsn: still building..
Mar 09 20:27:55 <mrmoku> JaMa: ahh ok
Mar 09 20:28:02 <mrmoku> makes more sense :)
Mar 09 20:28:03 <JaMa> NOTE: Running task 1833 of 14456, but will be soon
Mar 09 20:28:26 <JaMa> mrmoku: and if you have SetFunctionality now in phonefsod than I think that no sleep is needed, no?
Mar 09 20:28:49 <JaMa> mrmoku: I had it only because I was too lazy to somehow check if fsogsmd is up and running before calling SetFunc..
Mar 09 20:29:24 <mrmoku> JaMa: yup
Mar 09 20:29:46 <mrmoku> rebooting now to see what happens :P
Mar 09 20:30:00 <JaMa> mrmoku: disabled ogsmd?
Mar 09 20:30:11 <mrmoku> yup
Mar 09 20:30:22 <TAsn> what's missing in fsogsmd?
Mar 09 20:30:24 <JaMa> mrmoku: hmm latest revs?
Mar 09 20:30:38 <mrmoku> well I opkg upgraded earlier today
Mar 09 20:30:47 <mrmoku> don't know if that is late enough
Mar 09 20:30:52 <JaMa> mrmoku: for me latest fsogsmd in shr feeds fails with latest libgsm0710mux+abyss from feeds
Mar 09 20:31:09 <JaMa> mrmoku: yup that should be late enough
Mar 09 20:32:28 <TAsn> what's missing in fsogsmd?
Mar 09 20:32:48 <mrmoku> TAsn: one important thing is GPRS I think
Mar 09 20:33:46 <TAsn> which doesn't work?
Mar 09 20:33:48 <TAsn> or just changed API?
Mar 09 20:33:55 <JaMa> maybe we should switch to fsogsmd same day as 2.6.32, just start using fsogsmd with new sysfs paths and let old framework with old paths.. but it doesn't solve ogpsd paths :/
Mar 09 20:36:25 <TAsn> JaMa, fsotldld or whatever isn't ready yet?
Mar 09 20:36:31 <TAsn> JaMa, what's still missing in .32?
Mar 09 20:38:07 <TAsn> mrmoku, so did you fix the dimming issues in phonefsod?
Mar 09 20:40:03 <mrmoku> TAsn: last thing missing is to save the value to config
Mar 09 20:40:29 <TAsn> but you no longer probe from framework?
Mar 09 20:40:34 <TAsn> if so, please close the ticket :)
Mar 09 20:40:46 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... what does 's3c2410: changing usb to host' tell me?
Mar 09 20:41:24 <mrmoku> TAsn: well... I compiled it two mins ago... let me test it first :P
Mar 09 20:41:45 <TAsn> mrmoku, did we ever test anything before committing? I think not. :P
Mar 09 20:42:49 <mrmoku> TAsn: but we might want to start that ;)
Mar 09 20:43:16 <TAsn> sounds like an ok idea.
Mar 09 20:43:24 <TAsn> brb, packing my suitcase.
Mar 09 20:43:48 <JaMa> mrmoku: where? maybe it's changing usb mode from guest to host, where do you see it?
Mar 09 20:44:00 <mrmoku> dmesg
Mar 09 20:44:02 <mrmoku> on boot
Mar 09 20:44:10 <mrmoku> and I have no usb net
Mar 09 20:44:21 <JaMa> with 2.6.32?
Mar 09 20:44:27 <mrmoku> no
Mar 09 20:47:04 <JaMa> spaetz: proper fix for gtk+ issue is now in oe.dev, let me try it in shr-u, and then it's good adept for cherry-pick (as well as libx11-locale readd thx to TAsn)
Mar 09 20:47:58 <JaMa> spaetz: ah and those e2fsprogs,util-linux-ng changes are also solving few conflicts in packages we have in images
Mar 09 20:48:36 <Thib_G> oh, the call window isn't the only suffering from the instant-close issue, now
Mar 09 20:50:45 <Thib_G> phoneui-messages does that too
Mar 09 20:50:49 <JesusMcCloud> moin
Mar 09 20:51:21 <Thib_G> and phoneui-contacts doesn't show any contact
Mar 09 20:51:27 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, aloha and sry for the delay... i just got home yesterday
Mar 09 20:54:16 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... fsogsmd segfaults
Mar 09 20:54:34 <mrmoku> 2010-03-09T20:52:56.302432Z [DEBUG] TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Will open 4 channels...
Mar 09 20:54:34 <spaetz> JaMa, cool, feel free too cherry pick fixes into -T
Mar 09 20:54:53 <JaMa> mrmoku: yes that's the issue I said about..
Mar 09 20:55:08 <JaMa> mrmoku: it worked ok before libgsm0710mux/abyss bump
Mar 09 20:55:39 <JaMa> mrmoku: but I cannot bump newer libfsotransport/fsogsmd because it fails to compile and also breaks fsotdld
Mar 09 20:57:00 <mrmoku> JaMa: ok
Mar 09 20:57:24 <mrmoku> JaMa: that prevents me from fixing phonefsod for now :/
Mar 09 20:57:37 <mrmoku> which is a good thing... as I'm getting tired :)
Mar 09 20:57:52 <mrmoku> spaetz: last night was less good :P
Mar 09 20:59:12 <spaetz> mrmoku, welcome to the club :-P
Mar 09 20:59:43 <spaetz> Johanna still crying till 1am very often
Mar 09 21:00:45 <mrmoku> spaetz: I can't complain... Diego is quite nice to me... but last night very active between 2am and 4am :P
Mar 09 21:00:56 <JaMa> :)
Mar 09 21:01:08 <alabd> is this latest uimage ? jama http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119861+a15608f241a40b41fed5bffe511355c2067c4e88-r8-om-gta02.bin
Mar 09 21:01:16 <alabd> 5 marc
Mar 09 21:01:47 <JaMa> probably yes.. if it has higher number then it's really latest
Mar 09 21:01:56 <JaMa> s/higher/highest/
Mar 09 21:01:56 <apt> JaMa meant: probably yes.. if it has highest number then it's really latest
Mar 09 21:02:11 <spaetz> sounds like it
Mar 09 21:03:34 <vanous123> JaMa: is there somewhere a bootchart as a single static binary? 
Mar 09 21:04:25 <JaMa> vanous123: it will be in shr feeds in few sec
Mar 09 21:04:46 <vanous123> but
Mar 09 21:05:16 <JaMa> now it is
Mar 09 21:05:58 <vanous123> ok, will try to copy it on the neophysis usd and run it...
Mar 09 21:06:13 <vanous123> JaMa: cannot see framework on your chart?
Mar 09 21:06:13 <JaMa> vanous123: btw I had problem running it from init= in append-GTA02
Mar 09 21:06:32 <vanous123> JaMa: so how did you run it then?
Mar 09 21:06:40 <JaMa> vanous123: so I created qi-bootchart which passes init=/usr/bin/bootchart-lite instead of /sbin/init
Mar 09 21:06:58 <vanous123> strange
Mar 09 21:07:07 <vanous123> init= should just work, eh?
Mar 09 21:07:23 <JaMa> vanous123: hint: linking /sbin/init to /usr/bin/bootchart-lite is not good idea as it runs /sbin/init from it :)
Mar 09 21:07:37 <vanous123> :)
Mar 09 21:07:53 <vanous123> not sure if i manage tonight
Mar 09 21:07:55 <JaMa> vanous123: but then you had 2 init= params, one from qi and second from append and for me with 2.6.32 it seems to use first and ignore second
Mar 09 21:08:46 <vanous123> spent last hour fixing last night debian upgrade kms issue here
Mar 09 21:08:48 <JaMa> vanous123: and there is no frameworkd, because I'm plaing with fsogsmd instead (which is hidden in fsodeviced and also segfaulting in that bootchart :/)
Mar 09 21:08:56 <vanous123> i see
Mar 09 21:09:09 <vanous123> this was my main question but i knew you have fso-gsmd
Mar 09 21:09:18 <vanous123> and this also gives better results :)
Mar 09 21:09:31 <JaMa> vanous123: but from yesterday's tests I dont expect fsogsmd to do much delay as it can run on background and nothing is busy-waiting for it
Mar 09 21:09:52 <vanous123> this would be good
Mar 09 21:09:54 <vanous123> i mean
Mar 09 21:10:19 <JaMa> if you replace r2 with r1 in that link.. there is python running frameworkd (because of opimd)
Mar 09 21:10:29 <vanous123> the NP booting time really stuck me
Mar 09 21:11:07 <JaMa> if they're using udev then I'm really curious where they are saving so much time..
Mar 09 21:12:22 <JaMa> and this is also better http://jama.homelinux.org/Pictures/bootchart-2.6.32.9.r3.png
Mar 09 21:13:15 <JaMa> just simplified xinit and removed eth0 up while booting (not-needed wpa_supplicant)
Mar 09 21:14:23 <JaMa> I guess that xkbcomp should be also skipped right? if we compile keyboard def once and store it right
Mar 09 21:15:16 <vanous123> is fso-gsmd still segfaulting?
Mar 09 21:15:20 <JaMa> then I think that homescreen of minimal DE like openbox and probably that NDE is doable in less then 20sec? 
Mar 09 21:15:27 <vanous123> i would be interested to see when you get gsm fix
Mar 09 21:15:40 <JaMa> vanous123: with latest libgsm0710mux/abyss yes
Mar 09 21:16:06 <vanous123> ok, i am looking for that usd now :)
Mar 09 21:16:07 <JaMa> vanous123: if you rollback one rev back (from feeds) it should run ok after manuall SetFunctionality call
Mar 09 21:20:05 <alabd> JaMa,  while shr is installed bootloader is qi , how to format and flash new shr ? 
Mar 09 21:21:25 <alabd> after turning off the FreeRunner and Pressing  and holding AUX button and Pressing the Power button , the boot menu does not come up 
Mar 09 21:22:05 <alabd> JaMa,  does it mean NOR bootloader is removed ?
Mar 09 21:22:19 <JaMa> hah to compare with std -lite image with 2.6.29 http://jama.homelinux.org/Pictures/bootchart-2.6.29.r1.png
Mar 09 21:23:43 <JaMa> alabd: please read at lease few wiki pages about how to flash any distro to nand
Mar 09 21:24:03 <JaMa> alabd: and AUX+POWER should always work.. try it again..
Mar 09 21:24:48 <spaetz> not iif the NOR bootloader has been broken
Mar 09 21:25:26 * spaetz hopes alabd did not try to modify the NOR
Mar 09 21:26:08 * mrmoku off to bed now
Mar 09 21:26:11 <mrmoku> gnight all
Mar 09 21:26:19 <JaMa> gnight mrmoku|away 
Mar 09 21:26:41 <alabd> no spaetz  no didn't , is it possible without dboard ?
Mar 09 21:28:00 <spaetz> I don't know
Mar 09 21:28:06 <alabd> spaetz,  JaMa  it is ok 
Mar 09 21:28:13 <spaetz> ok
Mar 09 21:29:57 <alabd> spaetz, do you adivce qt or uboot ?
Mar 09 21:30:16 <alexxy> TAsn: yep
Mar 09 21:30:44 <alexxy> after conversion frameworkd died when i try to list my mmessages (~350) 
Mar 09 21:30:57 <spaetz> I use qi. But I would use whatever works
Mar 09 21:33:23 <alabd> spaetz, The boot loader (U-boot) file should have a .bin extension , wiki said . but qi has udfu format 
Mar 09 21:35:19 <spaetz> alabd, sorry, don't know anything about that. I just read the wiki page on how to flash that ad followed the instructions
Mar 09 21:36:12 <alabd> anyway thanks a lot bye 4 now god peace you
Mar 09 21:49:07 <DocScrutinizer> JesusMcCloud: ola!
Mar 09 21:49:18 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, hi
Mar 09 21:52:13 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, got some 2 or 3 (foo)scripts for me to play around with? (best case i can provide you with aworking demo tomorrow afternoon)
Mar 09 21:52:16 <TAsn> alexxy, I'm out of backscroll :P please remind me what was the "yep" for? :P
Mar 09 21:53:41 <DocScrutinizer> JesusMcCloud: not right now, sorry
Mar 09 21:53:55 <DocScrutinizer> ping me later, or tomorrow
Mar 09 21:54:40 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer,  dont worry.. prolly better that way since i just managed to get used to actually sleeping at night...
Mar 09 21:54:56 <DocScrutinizer> hehe, good
Mar 09 21:56:31 <JesusMcCloud> me likey! especially since the university term just started and i *should* attend some courses in the morning/noon
Mar 09 21:57:05 <JesusMcCloud> ...and being awake helps alot
Mar 09 21:57:18 <DocScrutinizer> lol
Mar 09 21:59:44 * PaulFertser should attend the first class tomorrow morning. Means waking up at 7-30 :/
Mar 09 22:00:32 <JesusMcCloud> also i want to be awake... verilog is in the curriculum... i just hope it is not that different from vhdl, or at least knowing vhdl is not a handicap
Mar 09 22:00:52 <PaulFertser> :)))
Mar 09 22:05:52 <JesusMcCloud> speaking of verilog... starts in 10 hours... good night!
Mar 09 22:15:04 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03felix.huber 07framework * rf7c479964dd4 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Fixed Implement HFP pbook retrieval, call indication and bluetooth autostart
Mar 09 22:36:03 <alexxy> TAsn: yep was because of crashing frameworkd when i try to list my messages (~300)
Mar 09 22:36:32 <TAsn> frameworkd crashed on that?!
Mar 09 22:36:38 <TAsn> does it work now?
Mar 09 22:36:52 <alexxy> i report after update
Mar 09 22:36:58 <TAsn> what a bummer :|
Mar 09 22:37:18 <TAsn> anyhow, I'm off for a week
Mar 09 22:37:24 <TAsn> I'll maybe pop in tomorrow
Mar 09 22:37:27 <TAsn> but other than that, ciao.
Mar 09 22:37:31 <alexxy> frameworkd crashed on listing my sms =)
Mar 09 22:37:47 <max_posedon> its so nice, kickoff sim contacts support, and leave only pisi support
Mar 09 22:37:58 <TAsn> max_posedon, are you being cynical?
Mar 09 22:38:19 <max_posedon> I'm not, but gta01 user will be)
Mar 09 22:38:26 <TAsn> why?
Mar 09 22:38:51 <max_posedon> I think their nand doesn't have enough space for pisi
Mar 09 22:39:04 <max_posedon> btw, will pisi be installed in def image?
Mar 09 22:39:11 <max_posedon> I think it should be
Mar 09 22:39:14 <TAsn> max_posedon, I guess it should now
Mar 09 22:39:15 <TAsn> yeah.
Mar 09 22:39:19 <TAsn> JaMa, ^ :P
Mar 09 22:39:41 <max_posedon> I just did contact migration with pisi
Mar 09 22:39:48 <max_posedon> contacts without numbers
Mar 09 22:39:53 <max_posedon> run remove-tel script
Mar 09 22:40:02 <max_posedon> contacts still without numbers
Mar 09 22:40:21 <max_posedon> its may be because I not rebooted, but ...
Mar 09 22:40:31 <TAsn> max_posedon, wait, when you show a contact
Mar 09 22:40:41 <TAsn> does it have a filed with the phone number?
Mar 09 22:40:51 <TAsn> if so, what's the name of the field?
Mar 09 22:40:56 <max_posedon> Cell phone
Mar 09 22:41:07 <TAsn> so this probably it
Mar 09 22:41:19 <TAsn> sec
Mar 09 22:41:31 <TAsn> oh shit, my moko is off
Mar 09 22:41:51 <TAsn> hm.. mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd org/freesmartphone/opimd 
Mar 09 22:41:54 <TAsn> (or something like that)
Mar 09 22:42:05 <TAsn> hm.. mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/opimd/Contacts
Mar 09 22:42:08 <TAsn> or something like that :PY
Mar 09 22:42:09 <max_posedon> wait a min, rebooting phone right now
Mar 09 22:42:10 <TAsn> and then
Mar 09 22:42:20 <TAsn> AddField "Cell phone" phonenumber
Mar 09 22:42:27 <TAsn> you don't have the Cell phone field defined
Mar 09 22:42:31 <TAsn> as a phone field
Mar 09 22:42:39 <TAsn> we'll soon support it in GUI
Mar 09 22:42:51 <TAsn> but in the meanwhile
Mar 09 22:43:09 <max_posedon> I think its should be added by default for now.
Mar 09 22:43:20 <alexxy> tasn what about phoneui mesaages and opimd-cli m query
Mar 09 22:43:41 <alexxy> if i try to use one of this to list my messages frameworkd will crash
Mar 09 22:43:52 <TAsn> max_posedon, there's a config option in PISI to add them automatically
Mar 09 22:44:16 <max_posedon> so, pisi should be installed with it by default
Mar 09 22:44:24 <TAsn> max_posedon, but Cell phone is not defined by "the community" as a "correct" field, but actually "Mobile phone" is preferred.
Mar 09 22:44:33 <TAsn> max_posedon, I know, but the PISI devs
Mar 09 22:44:37 <TAsn> don't answer my emails
Mar 09 22:44:50 <TAsn> for a while now
Mar 09 22:46:09 <TAsn> alexxy, no idea, I'm off for a week
Mar 09 22:46:10 <TAsn> ciao.
Mar 09 22:46:55 <max_posedon> TAsn, "Cell phone" added, still don't see phone numbers
Mar 09 22:47:20 <TAsn> max_posedon, yeah, that's a small issue, try:
Mar 09 22:47:23 <TAsn> killall phoneuid
Mar 09 22:47:34 <TAsn> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80phoneuid
Mar 09 22:47:40 <TAsn> that should do it.
Mar 09 22:47:54 <TAsn> shower, and then a quick peak to see everything is ok, and then ciao :)
Mar 09 22:48:45 <max_posedon> still no numbers
Mar 09 22:48:58 <max_posedon> may be "cell phone" or, I don't know
Mar 09 22:49:02 <max_posedon> will reboot
Mar 09 22:54:20 <TAsn> max_posedon, no need to reboot, field names are case sensitive though, make sure you got it right
Mar 09 22:55:24 <max_posedon> I don't know how it should be
Mar 09 22:55:28 <max_posedon> installing sqlite3
Mar 09 22:55:32 <TAsn> actually nvm
Mar 09 22:55:36 <TAsn> it's not even an opimd thing
Mar 09 22:55:42 <TAsn> libphone-ui still works in the old way
Mar 09 22:55:49 <TAsn> and just looks for fields with "phone" in the name
Mar 09 22:56:06 <max_posedon> Cell phone
Mar 09 22:56:12 <TAsn> this is good enough
Mar 09 22:56:14 <max_posedon> so, no any contacts for now?)
Mar 09 22:56:26 <TAsn> does it show a number for any contact?
Mar 09 22:56:56 <max_posedon> nope, but I had only sim contacts before
Mar 09 22:57:42 <TAsn> max_posedon, doesn't matter
Mar 09 22:57:57 <max_posedon> INSERT INTO "contacts_phonenumber" VALUES(97,17,'Cell phone','+37529787xxxx');
Mar 09 22:58:07 <TAsn> what's that?
Mar 09 22:58:25 <max_posedon> exact line from pim.db dump
Mar 09 22:58:32 <max_posedon> how phone numbers are stored
Mar 09 22:58:41 <TAsn> looks fine
Mar 09 22:59:12 <max_posedon> $ mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.ListFields
Mar 09 22:59:12 <max_posedon> ( { "Surname":"name", "Name":"name", "Affiliation":"text", "Photo":"photo", "Work phone":"phonenumber", "Mobile phone":"phonenumber", "Note":"text", "Phone":"phonenumber", "Birthday":"date", "E-mail":"email", "Address":"address", "Cell phone":"phonenumber", "Nickname":"name", "Home phone":"phonenumber" } )
Mar 09 22:59:28 <TAsn> looks ok
Mar 09 22:59:33 <TAsn> it seems like a problem in libphone-ui
Mar 09 22:59:37 <TAsn> let me get things straight
Mar 09 22:59:45 <max_posedon> ok
Mar 09 22:59:49 <TAsn> max_posedon, in contacts list
Mar 09 22:59:55 <TAsn> you see name but no number
Mar 09 22:59:56 <TAsn> right?
Mar 09 23:00:04 <max_posedon> yes
Mar 09 23:00:10 <TAsn> now if you open a contact
Mar 09 23:00:12 <TAsn> what do you see?
Mar 09 23:00:27 <max_posedon> [top-part-of-image] nick
Mar 09 23:00:37 <max_posedon> [bottom-part] (no number)
Mar 09 23:00:48 <TAsn> and in the list?
Mar 09 23:00:59 <max_posedon> its in list
Mar 09 23:01:10 <max_posedon> on contact I see:
Mar 09 23:01:10 <TAsn> ok
Mar 09 23:02:04 <max_posedon> nick         homeStreet  empty       Cell phone +375xxx            Middlename empty ...
Mar 09 23:02:20 <TAsn> you see empty stuff in the list?
Mar 09 23:02:28 <max_posedon> yes
Mar 09 23:02:34 <TAsn> so this is the issue
Mar 09 23:02:49 <TAsn> ffs damn old opimd
Mar 09 23:02:56 * DocScrutinizer yawns
Mar 09 23:02:56 <TAsn> I remember this bug
Mar 09 23:03:05 <TAsn> (in old opimd)
Mar 09 23:03:36 <TAsn> I just hoped no one had a corrupt db :|
Mar 09 23:03:51 <max_posedon> I haven't!
Mar 09 23:04:02 <TAsn> oh right
Mar 09 23:04:02 <max_posedon> I just thinked
Mar 09 23:04:03 <TAsn> straight from sim
Mar 09 23:04:09 <TAsn> weird.
Mar 09 23:04:23 <max_posedon> may be I should do migration from sim to opimd
Mar 09 23:04:30 <max_posedon> before convertion to new
Mar 09 23:04:45 <TAsn> max_posedon, what did you do now?
Mar 09 23:04:50 <max_posedon> but this is might be impossible now
Mar 09 23:04:59 <whirl> hey guys, is it better to post my embarrasing questions about SHR to the mailing list or here?
Mar 09 23:05:02 <max_posedon> I'm? crying about my contacts)
Mar 09 23:05:11 <TAsn> max_posedon, I mean when converting?
Mar 09 23:05:23 <TAsn> pisi -> old_opimd -> conversion script -> new opimd?
Mar 09 23:05:30 <max_posedon> nope
Mar 09 23:05:38 <TAsn> then?
Mar 09 23:05:41 <TAsn> pisi -> new_opimd ?
Mar 09 23:05:54 <max_posedon> old_opimd -> conversion script -> new opimd ; pisi -> new_opimd
Mar 09 23:05:58 <max_posedon> I think it was that way
Mar 09 23:06:19 <TAsn> max_posedon, but you had nothing in old_Opimd, didn't you?
Mar 09 23:06:21 <TAsn> you just used sim?
Mar 09 23:06:26 <TAsn> didn't you just use sim?
Mar 09 23:06:26 <max_posedon> yes
Mar 09 23:06:38 <max_posedon> I just used sim for contacts
Mar 09 23:06:48 <TAsn> so I think it's better if you rm /etc/freesmartphone/opim/pimd.db
Mar 09 23:06:55 <TAsn> restart
Mar 09 23:07:06 <whirl> can you guys even see these or do I really have to register?
Mar 09 23:07:16 <TAsn> whirl, we see
Mar 09 23:07:22 <TAsn> ML is better
Mar 09 23:07:33 <PaulFertser> whirl: and on the shr mailing list you have to subscribe, unfortunately
Mar 09 23:07:57 <whirl> I did that already but didnt dare to post anything
Mar 09 23:07:59 <max_posedon> TAsn, rebooting now
Mar 09 23:08:15 <TAsn> max_posedon, and then convert with pisi using the FIELDS_OPIMD = true (or whatever) config option
Mar 09 23:08:20 <PaulFertser> whirl: you can try to ask your questions here, chances are you'll get a fast reply.
Mar 09 23:08:27 <whirl> cool thanks
Mar 09 23:08:55 <PaulFertser> whirl: as a general note: when you come to irc, just ask your question, do not ask permission to ask.
Mar 09 23:09:20 <PaulFertser> whirl: also you might want to skim this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Mar 09 23:09:40 <TAsn> PaulFertser, lol, in some countries this counts as abuse :P
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Mar 11 09:00:29 <spaetz> OE git server broke?
Mar 11 09:00:30 <spaetz> oh
Mar 11 09:01:49 <parilo> Hi, all!
Mar 11 09:01:49 <parilo> I have problem with last shr-testing, I've updated today and saw message that I need convert data from sim using PISI. I've installed PISI and now I have http://pastebin.ca/1833308. How use PISI to get my contacts from sim?
Mar 11 09:04:17 <spaetz> good question, I've never actually used PISI :)
Mar 11 09:04:23 <spaetz> does anyone know?
Mar 11 09:04:39 <spaetz> Do your contacts work? If yes, no conversion needed...
Mar 11 09:05:42 <vanous123> i tried yesteday
Mar 11 09:06:01 <vanous123> but framework for some reason didn't see my messages
Mar 11 09:06:32 <Heinervdm> it seems that pisi uses GetUsedBackends and that method doesn't exist anymore
Mar 11 09:06:58 <vanous123> hmm
Mar 11 09:07:24 <vanous123> someone reported last night on cz talk that it worked on testing...
Mar 11 09:07:38 <vanous123> i tried it on shr-u
Mar 11 09:16:22 <spaetz> Is that solved? [libphone-ui-shr] CRITICAL: Tried to hide a unitinialized window
Mar 11 09:18:05 <spaetz> ahh, I see it's solved. good
Mar 11 09:20:33 <DocScrutinizer> mooo
Mar 11 09:28:17 <parilo> spaetz: No, my contacts don't work. There is emptyness in my Contacts
Mar 11 10:05:40 <spaetz> JaMa: is AUTOREV really included in shr.conf?
Mar 11 10:06:00 <spaetz> If yes, I totally forgot about it (it's included in conf/local.conf in my SHR-U)
Mar 11 10:07:33 <JesusMcCloud> I just flashed hackable:1 and realized again that SHR needs a proper home screen, illume sucks aswell as illume2 fot that matter... so i need to know if the current instructions on the om wiki about crosscompiling/bitbake/oe are valid
Mar 11 10:07:57 <JesusMcCloud> ..since i finally have hte motivation to learn elementary
Mar 11 10:08:57 <JaMa> spaetz: IIRC yes
Mar 11 10:09:13 <JesusMcCloud> hs the incorporation of a notification daemon been discussed (like xfce4-notifyd or notification-daemon known from the desktop)?
Mar 11 10:09:26 <JaMa> spaetz: I have it in my copy
Mar 11 10:10:16 <JaMa> spaetz: that's why i pinged you twice before :)
Mar 11 10:10:40 <spaetz> missed that, sorry
Mar 11 10:11:05 <blindcoder> hey guys. how would I go about adding a post-install hook to a package?
Mar 11 10:11:10 <JaMa> spaetz: and those decreased versions wont be so big problem if you don't need the new stuff (not sure which fixes arrived later)
Mar 11 10:11:14 <spaetz> I just removed the autorev for shr-T but cannot push at the moment
Mar 11 10:11:28 <spaetz> OE git seems still down
Mar 11 10:11:47 <JaMa> because SRCPV will make every changed rev as newer PV (so it will be upgraded on targets to older revision)
Mar 11 10:12:13 <spaetz> I agree that decreased versions will not be a big problem at the moment.
Mar 11 10:12:29 <spaetz> But I think it would make sense to remove that from the shr.conf completely and just add it specifically for shr-U
Mar 11 10:12:53 <spaetz> because I will surely forget to remove it again, when I start the next shr-T branch :)
Mar 11 10:13:22 <spaetz> hehe, comparing versions is easy now: http://django.sspaeth.de/opkg/show/pisi
Mar 11 10:14:00 <JesusMcCloud> noone interested? what about shr-launcher after polishing it? (if illume supports ELM_WINDOW_DESKTOP)?
Mar 11 10:30:43 <graziano> anyone in the -devel list with the will to have some fun patching xboard and pingus? :)
Mar 11 10:31:19 * JaMa haven't seen patch just tarball :)
Mar 11 10:32:05 <JaMa> patch would be available at http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/project/SHR/list/ and quick/easy to apply
Mar 11 10:44:59 <spaetz> graziano: people here prefer a diff file that can be used for patching, as it makes it easier to apply, and easier to see differences.
Mar 11 10:45:25 <spaetz> And sorry, I won't have time to look at it, I am really busy at work atm.
Mar 11 10:45:41 <JaMa> git is up, keep patches flowing :)
Mar 11 10:46:20 <mrmoku> yeah
Mar 11 10:46:20 <mickey|zzZZzz> so, with all the newer async stuff, is registration more reliable now or still a problem?
Mar 11 10:46:31 <graziano> spaetz: I would be glad to provide it but I have really no idea where to start, I never did this. I thought it was something easy for you once you had icon, desktop file and script file..
Mar 11 10:46:36 <mrmoku> mickey|zzZZzz: for me it worked without DEBUG in frameworkd now :)
Mar 11 10:46:44 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: awww, finally. good to hear
Mar 11 10:46:59 <graziano> (and yes I am fully aware developers have really more important things to do :D)
Mar 11 10:47:02 <mickey|zzZZzz> there's something strange happening with MainIteration
Mar 11 10:47:10 <mickey|zzZZzz> i guess i should not use it 
Mar 11 10:47:21 <mickey|zzZZzz> i no longer trust it to actualyl process mainloop events
Mar 11 10:47:56 <mickey|zzZZzz> btw., there is an experimental dbus threading fix that might introduce more stability
Mar 11 10:48:04 <mickey|zzZZzz> we should give that a try
Mar 11 10:48:11 <JaMa> graziano: just checkout shr/unstable branch from git, find . -name xboard\*; and you'll understand what should be put where..
Mar 11 10:49:23 <graziano> JaMa: mmm I will ask GNUtoo|oeee for some help when he is free :)
Mar 11 10:50:10 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r900ab07624ed 10/src/odeviced/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
Mar 11 10:50:10 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: odeviced-audio: add SaveScenario
Mar 11 10:50:10 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Mar 11 10:50:12 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r67e300e32f4b 10/src/ogsmd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
Mar 11 10:50:12 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: ogsmd-device: add Set/GetFunctionality
Mar 11 10:50:12 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Mar 11 10:50:23 <mrmoku> mickey|zzZZzz: I'm really looking forward to the libfso-glib workshop :P
Mar 11 10:50:23 <JaMa> graziano: are you sure you need assistence? everything needed is described on wiki and if you learn it now, then you'll be more helpfull later...
Mar 11 10:51:33 <CIA-29> SHR: 03mok 07phoneuid * r7bec1928f152 10/data/phoneui-wrapper.sh: Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.shr-project.org/phoneuid
Mar 11 10:51:44 <CIA-29> SHR: 03mok 07phoneuid * rb9c1bf4bc7b3 10/src/phoneuid-phone-log.c: phoneuid-phone-log: activate phoneui_phone_log_show
Mar 11 10:52:07 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: hehe, i can imagine. i'm not sure what still is missing until you could use it
Mar 11 10:52:30 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: i'm now creating some more client code (zhone2) which might clear up one or the other issue
Mar 11 10:53:41 <mrmoku> mickey|zzZZzz: but you're doing that with vala...
Mar 11 10:54:34 <mickey|zzZZzz> ...which compiles to C
Mar 11 10:54:47 <mickey|zzZZzz> can't we look at the generated C code then to find out what's different?
Mar 11 10:55:08 <mrmoku> I tried that some time ago... the generated C code is difficult to read though ;)
Mar 11 10:55:17 <mrmoku> but yes, we should do that
Mar 11 10:56:50 * mrmoku checked out aurora :)
Mar 11 10:57:18 <mickey|zzZZzz> i'm kind of enjoying to write client code again
Mar 11 10:57:30 <mickey|zzZZzz> and i think it helps for the APIs...
Mar 11 10:59:43 <Q-Master> mrmoku: any news on new phoneui apps?
Mar 11 11:01:48 <mrmoku> Q-Master: merging right now
Mar 11 11:01:53 <CIA-29> SHR: 03mok 07phonefsod * r364040e185ef 10/src/phonefsod-fso.c: phonefsod-fso: do not request GSM twice and fallback to SetFunctionality
Mar 11 11:02:04 <CIA-29> SHR: 03mok 07phonefsod * r88cb95bd4ebd 10/src/ (4 files): add org.shr.phonefso.Usage.SetDefaultBrightness and stop automatic gathering
Mar 11 11:02:05 <Q-Master> mrmoku: great
Mar 11 11:02:13 <mrmoku> I hope so ;)
Mar 11 11:24:02 <JaMa> mickey|zzZZzz: seen that error about msmcommd? wrong order of includes?
Mar 11 11:30:07 <graziano> JaMa: any helpful wiki specific reference?   
Mar 11 11:30:13 <graziano> lunch now, will read later
Mar 11 11:30:46 <JaMa> graziano: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR
Mar 11 11:32:26 <prahal> should I use cornucopia to clone libgsm0710muc and fso-abyss ? Ie it is the only one to ship libfsotransport and libfsobasics required by those ... thus I wonder  which repo has the latest fix (cornucopia or root of freesmartphone.org
Mar 11 11:35:38 <JaMa> prahal: cornucopia
Mar 11 11:35:49 <prahal> thank you
Mar 11 11:35:57 <JaMa> prahal: quick glance on last commits in both will make it clear 
Mar 11 11:37:24 <prahal> hum and there was a commit that told to use cornucopia since I last checked , sorry for the noise
Mar 11 11:41:12 <GNUtoo|oeee> mickey|zzZZzz dbus,glib or hal issues?
Mar 11 11:41:56 <mickey|zzZZzz> ??
Mar 11 11:47:06 <DocScrutinizer> mickey|zzZZzz: (there's something strange happening with MainIteration) heh :-D, so my suspicions where correct. Glad to hear my gut feelings still work
Mar 11 11:47:56 <GNUtoo|oeee> because I've [ 5440.378985] xfce4-panel[1211]: segfault at 4 ip b6e83618 sp bfb83fac error 6 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2200.4[b6e72000+c0000]
Mar 11 11:48:07 <GNUtoo|oeee> so I wonder if there is the same thing on gta02
Mar 11 11:49:33 <DocScrutinizer> JaMa: spaetz: even I preferred to just don't care anymore, rather than to figure out how to add/remove a file via a patch
Mar 11 11:51:40 <DocScrutinizer> the result been that fsckng initscript to store alsa state on shutdown and restore it on boot probably is still around today
Mar 11 11:52:09 <spaetz> DocScrutinizer: that would suck indeed
Mar 11 11:55:12 <JaMa> DocScrutinizer: but as you said in same sentence, there are bigger problems then missing .desktop and icon for chess game.. so if he want it applied quick it's better to send patch
Mar 11 11:55:53 <DocScrutinizer> spaetz: just because you do everything the sw-coder way by checking in patches to git, doesn't mean a contribution consisting of a 5liner script and a desktop file has to be delivered same format
Mar 11 11:57:01 <DocScrutinizer> and no, I never said sth like that
Mar 11 11:57:57 <JaMa> "that fsckng initscript" is smaller problem then icon?
Mar 11 11:58:21 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r8a07e2f4c4c7 10/zhone2/src/ (gsmagent.vala main.vala): zhone2: set functionality
Mar 11 11:58:29 * JaMa off -> daywork
Mar 11 12:02:30 * DocScrutinizer grumbles
Mar 11 12:03:53 <DocScrutinizer> git is *your* tool. User doesn't care. If a simple 'rm /etc/init.d/alsafuck' will fix the issue for my system, how could you expect I learn to figure how to keep *your* tool up to date?
Mar 11 12:05:19 <DocScrutinizer> graziano is *no* distro maintainer
Mar 11 12:05:39 * JaMa is paid to be java programmer
Mar 11 12:06:15 <DocScrutinizer> I'm not paid at all, so I'll shut up
Mar 11 12:07:14 <blindcoder> note to self: fread and fwrite are a little bit faster than Fl_Preferences on 12K of data
Mar 11 12:07:19 <JaMa> so I won't spend more time fixing check icon than needed, if graziano is willing to do it himself (as he cares about chess). It wasn't attack or refuse of grazino contribution, more like friendly advise how to make it merged sooner.
Mar 11 12:07:23 <blindcoder> by about 25 seconds on the FR :P
Mar 11 12:12:31 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: the idea is that it'd be probably beneficial for "a user" to learn git a bit. It's a handy tool for everyday use.
Mar 11 12:14:30 <vanous1231> PaulFertser: what are the advantages?
Mar 11 12:14:54 <PaulFertser> vanous1231: for a user to learn git?
Mar 11 12:15:37 <PaulFertser> vanous1231: he'll be able to use it in his everyday life, he'll be able to test new versions faster, he'll be able to contribute to the projects faster.
Mar 11 12:17:53 <vanous1231> PaulFertser: but with git comes makefile :)
Mar 11 12:18:13 <vanous1231> plenty of downloads and CPU power
Mar 11 12:18:49 <PaulFertser> vanous1231: well, if internet is cheap, that's ok.
Mar 11 12:19:33 <JaMa> and he can prepare good patch for .desktop+icon even without build I guess
Mar 11 12:21:22 * mrmoku would like to push contacts branch merge... could be a bit spammy :P
Mar 11 12:21:25 <vanous1231> PaulFertser: yeah, cheap, but slow :)
Mar 11 12:22:06 * DocScrutinizer completely fails to see any benefit from preparing a patch to create a new file, rather than provide the file in original form, packed into a .tgz
Mar 11 12:22:26 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: shall I push or do you want to be a bad admin again? :P
Mar 11 12:22:35 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: or you for that :)
Mar 11 12:23:42 <PaulFertser> vanous1231: i guess one night is enough
Mar 11 12:24:14 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: kick-gun loaded... so I push now :)
Mar 11 12:24:43 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: in a patch form the message will automatically appear at patchwork and can be pushed by anybody when he has time. Without it it'll lay in the archive among other mails, prompting for being forgotten ;)
Mar 11 12:24:54 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: thanks
Mar 11 12:25:21 <vanous1231> PaulFertser: from what i heard shr source downlad is about 6Gigs?  true or fud?
Mar 11 12:25:37 <Heinervdm> vanous1231: 8GB
Mar 11 12:25:43 <vanous1231> hmm
Mar 11 12:25:50 <vanous1231> and then?
Mar 11 12:25:54 <PaulFertser> Heinervdm: are you sure that's not including tmp?
Mar 11 12:25:57 <vanous1231> what is say daily/weekley
Mar 11 12:26:04 <Heinervdm> but you will have addiationally 10GB of tmp data
Mar 11 12:26:17 <vanous1231> Heinervdm: that's ok
Mar 11 12:26:38 <vanous1231> have been forgetting but will try tomorrow at my office
Mar 11 12:27:28 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: it needs more than a basic knowledge about git for a user to exploit this scheme
Mar 11 12:27:44 <Heinervdm> PaulFertser: no, it depends on what you are building, just lite-image is a bit less, 8GB is OE + sources for fat image
Mar 11 12:28:10 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: ping me when done
Mar 11 12:28:44 <Heinervdm> vanous1231: most of the data is only downloaded once and then only if a package is updated to a new upstream version the source is downloaded again
Mar 11 12:29:31 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: #freesmartphone.org is quiet now :)
Mar 11 12:29:35 <mrmoku> but this time it was worth it ;)
Mar 11 12:31:06 <vanous1231> Heinervdm: ok
Mar 11 12:31:16 <mrmoku> hmm... anybody knows how date type is handled in new opimd?
Mar 11 12:31:31 <DocScrutinizer> [2010-03-11 13:31:17] [Notice] -ChanServ- Flags +votriA were set on mrmoku in #openmoko.
Mar 11 12:34:26 <sicu> mrmoku: is your latest and greatest on its way into feed? =]
Mar 11 12:35:08 <JaMa> graziano: if you're still willing to create patch, there is more info about how to create/send patch http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Howto%20get%20my%20application%20in%20the%20SHR%20feed
Mar 11 12:35:17 <mrmoku> sicu: it hit the master branch for now
Mar 11 12:35:28 <mrmoku> sicu: next is building :)
Mar 11 12:35:31 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: #openmoko-cdevel, sorry
Mar 11 12:35:37 <mrmoku> lunch first though :P
Mar 11 12:35:45 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: was already wondering :)
Mar 11 12:35:48 <mrmoku> bbiab
Mar 11 12:35:54 <DocScrutinizer> done
Mar 11 12:36:01 <sicu> mrmoku: well deserved, enjoy
Mar 11 12:37:02 <graziano> DocScrutinizer: JaMa thank you for your suggestions, I know it can be frustrating for a developer to be asked to fix something by a user. I am fully aware of this so I asked for a the right wiki resources to read. I am willing to learn to try to bother you less
Mar 11 12:37:49 <DocScrutinizer> graziano: :-)
Mar 11 12:38:13 <graziano> DocScrutinizer:  ;)
Mar 11 12:39:55 <JaMa> graziano: you don't bother anyone, but your contributions will be much more apreciated in form easier to include as we're expecting more from you, then time spent on learning git a bit, will be hopefull well paid
Mar 11 12:40:26 <JaMa> hopefully next time without my typos :)
Mar 11 12:41:06 <JaMa> mrmoku: build is already running.. I'll push some more and run it after first batch is finished
Mar 11 12:41:11 * spaetz has to say that adding new files can just as well be done by tar file. Changes to existing files are a pain by tarballs...
Mar 11 12:41:28 <DocScrutinizer> spaetz: ++
Mar 11 12:41:32 <JaMa> mrmoku: I mean, build was running before contacts
Mar 11 12:41:58 <JaMa> spaetzWrk: but added file to oe, won't be used unless you update coresponding recipe etc
Mar 11 12:42:13 <spaetzWrk> JaMa: true
Mar 11 12:42:29 <JaMa> so it's always a bit of update
Mar 11 12:43:00 <DocScrutinizer> graziano will have a hard time to learn about bb receipes
Mar 11 12:43:07 <DocScrutinizer> to add a .desktop
Mar 11 12:43:10 <JaMa> and even when I'm updating someone else patch, I'm glad that I don't need to copy his name/email to commit author etc..
Mar 11 12:47:08 <spaetzWrk> JaMa: it does raise the contribution hurdle a bit. It would be nice to have some people who can convert such contributions to patches though...
Mar 11 12:47:20 <spaetzWrk> there must be developers who want to help out...
Mar 11 12:50:19 <graziano> I am writing an email to my libreplanet italia group to ask if someone has the skills to contribute to some projects.  What skills are needed to contribute to FSO / SHR  ?
Mar 11 12:52:56 <DocScrutinizer> graziano: as you've seen from last hour's debate here, there's not a simple answer to that question
Mar 11 12:53:45 <DocScrutinizer> for sure C and git knowledge will help. 
Mar 11 12:54:11 <DocScrutinizer> vala highly appreciated I guess
Mar 11 12:54:52 <Heinervdm> For packaging stuff git and bitbake knowlege, for contributions the SHR Apps: C and python, for FSO: Vala and python
Mar 11 12:54:56 <DocScrutinizer> openembedded experience also helps a lot
Mar 11 12:55:11 <Heinervdm> but git knowlege is needed for everything
Mar 11 12:55:27 <blindcoder> I never needed git for anything but SHR
Mar 11 12:55:46 <DocScrutinizer> hrhrhrrr
Mar 11 12:56:02 <Heinervdm> i meant git is needed for OE, SHR and FSO
Mar 11 12:56:10 <DocScrutinizer> leave alone bitbake ;-P
Mar 11 12:56:27 <JaMa> with a bit of git stats I have >100 commits to oe.dev/month.. good that I don't need usually to manually update headers after creating needed changes :)
Mar 11 13:05:20 <mrmoku> JaMa: did you pull in the lfg bump?
Mar 11 13:06:45 <mrmoku> JaMa: ahh... before contacts :P
Mar 11 13:06:47 <mrmoku> ok
Mar 11 13:06:53 <spaetzWrk> is the "no call screen on incoming call known?" and is it a shr-t specific thing?
Mar 11 13:07:22 <spaetzWrk> referring to tomcatek@ mail "Re: [Shr-Devel] New shr-testing snapshot is out"
Mar 11 13:07:42 <JaMa> mrmoku: NOTE: Running task 9251 of 14472 will start another build after this
Mar 11 13:07:48 <mrmoku> spaetzWrk: I don't have that
Mar 11 13:07:56 <mrmoku> spaetzWrk: but I have the 'no vibration' symptom
Mar 11 13:08:08 <mrmoku> JaMa: ok
Mar 11 13:08:29 <mrmoku> JaMa: does this build include fixed fsogsmd?
Mar 11 13:09:14 <JaMa> mrmoku: it should, but maybe it will fail :/
Mar 11 13:09:29 <mrmoku> ok, gives me time to do some daywork :)
Mar 11 13:09:39 * JaMa should do some too
Mar 11 13:09:42 <mrmoku> (which includes using git ;)
Mar 11 13:10:33 <JaMa> lucky you :)
Mar 11 13:12:19 <JaMa> spaetzWrk: IIRC last commit TAsn pushed to that updater script was to ignore empty fields, but it doesn't solve db already created, right
Mar 11 13:12:39 <spaetzWrk> I guess not.
Mar 11 13:24:26 <JaMa> mrmoku: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/513423/ maybe only because framework-glib wasn't upgraded before this build?
Mar 11 13:25:41 <JaMa> next build is running
Mar 11 13:28:29 <mrmoku> JaMa: yeah, phonefsod needs lfg bump
Mar 11 13:31:17 <mrmoku> JaMa: I pushed that bump to oe.org only btw.
Mar 11 13:31:38 <JaMa> I've merged it already
Mar 11 13:31:57 <mrmoku> :)
Mar 11 13:41:42 <sicu> anyone know if there's an mdbus command to disable call forwarding to voicemail?
Mar 11 13:46:54 <sicu> DisableCallForwarding( s:reason, s:class_ ) -> ()
Mar 11 13:47:28 <sicu> ^ which 2 parameters should i supply there?
Mar 11 13:47:33 <graziano> DocScrutinizer: ok thanks I read it all, some skills poped out in the discussion, I will ask my group if someone have them
Mar 11 13:55:05 <sicu> nvm, got it =]
Mar 11 13:55:15 <sicu> TAsnn: that was a short week ;p
Mar 11 13:56:24 * mrmoku hopes it is snowing too much in italy... so that TAsnn spends his time in the hotel lobby using it's wireless internet access ;)
Mar 11 13:57:11 <sicu> hehe, evil hopes
Mar 11 13:58:19 <graziano> mrmoku: here in Italy it is not snowing, in Venice at least, don't know about central regions
Mar 11 14:00:36 <mrmoku> graziano: I heard in the north (TV) it is snowing - at least that's what my mother in law told us :P
Mar 11 14:02:43 <mrmoku> graziano: but venice is different weather wise ;)
Mar 11 14:03:29 <graziano> yesterday it was, 
Mar 11 14:23:09 <JesusMcCloud> lol... just flashed current -unstable anf frameworkd doesnt start...
Mar 11 14:25:31 <mickey|office> how does it bail out?
Mar 11 14:25:47 <JaMa> mrmoku: contacts in feeds
Mar 11 14:26:20 <JesusMcCloud> mickey|office, was the first boot. rebootign now (it doesnt bail out ti just doesnt get started
Mar 11 14:28:28 <JesusMcCloud> mickey|office, all ok now
Mar 11 14:29:05 <mickey|office> k
Mar 11 14:29:35 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, is the pacakge index fully built, can i upgrade?
Mar 11 14:30:03 <JaMa> JesusMcCloud: it should be, but I'm building another few upgrades..
Mar 11 14:30:24 <JaMa> udev failed and everything depending on it, is waiting for fix
Mar 11 14:30:55 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, so can i upgrade now or not?
Mar 11 14:31:39 <JaMa> I guess you can
Mar 11 14:31:45 <JesusMcCloud> then i will
Mar 11 14:33:42 <JesusMcCloud> ahh dammit... is idle screen in shr-themes git?
Mar 11 14:34:06 <JesusMcCloud> i'm gonna fix the strechted lgog if it is
Mar 11 14:36:13 <JaMa> imho someone sent fix for that and it should be built already
Mar 11 14:37:05 <mrmoku> JaMa: great :)
Mar 11 14:37:25 <mrmoku> yeah, idle screen background got fixed by Slyon
Mar 11 14:37:31 <mrmoku> (did not test the fix though)
Mar 11 14:40:23 <JaMa> udev built (with manual change :/) but the rest is building
Mar 11 14:40:32 <JaMa> back to daywork
Mar 11 14:44:28 <JesusMcCloud> (lets see if current phonelog build is finally the curret one from git)
Mar 11 14:45:09 <JesusMcCloud> ok it is not..
Mar 11 14:45:34 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, uptodate pyphonelog is needed (the current one on buildhost crashes)
Mar 11 14:46:11 <JaMa> JesusMcCloud: this rev? b70058755df1f12cd48db51fa4cd933c027e20c6
Mar 11 14:46:46 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, yup, seems right... b70058755df1f12cd48db51fa4cd933c027e20c6
Mar 11 14:47:03 <JesusMcCloud> the current one on buildhost crashes with new opimd
Mar 11 14:47:05 <DocScrutinizer> generic access to I2C via cmdline - - any pointer?
Mar 11 14:48:01 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, i am not sure i understand your question (i am out of backscroll... are the livelogs still broken?)
Mar 11 14:49:01 <JesusMcCloud> who is responstible for fisrt run wizard?
Mar 11 14:49:23 <JaMa> JesusMcCloud: ok will be in next upgrade
Mar 11 14:49:33 <JesusMcCloud> thx, just wanted to let you know
Mar 11 14:51:42 <DocScrutinizer> JesusMcCloud: i2c-tool read <bus-addr> <chip-addr> <register-addr>; i2c-tool write <bus-addr> <chip-addr> <register-addr> <value>
Mar 11 14:52:23 <DocScrutinizer> JesusMcCloud: yes, seems livelog is dead. c.hentges aka coredump isn't available to ask him to fix
Mar 11 14:53:10 <DocScrutinizer> ~logs
Mar 11 14:53:12 <apt> All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily
Mar 11 14:54:41 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, so that is how it is supposed to work, but i guess it doesnt in your case... (i just noticed my µC and other hardware stuff is still in another city, sry i'm afraid i cant help you)
Mar 11 14:55:09 <JesusMcCloud> ahrg, sec. i'll go check in the basement
Mar 11 14:55:14 <JesusMcCloud> brb
Mar 11 14:58:44 <DocScrutinizer> JesusMcCloud: I'd like to see i2c-tool, but I'm not sure there is any
Mar 11 14:58:57 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, ahhh
Mar 11 14:59:10 <JesusMcCloud> well and apart from rats there is nothyn in the basement
Mar 11 15:01:54 <sicu> getting this on upgrade, shouldn't this be handled automagically?
Mar 11 15:01:56 <sicu> http://pastebin.org/109805
Mar 11 15:04:13 <JaMa> sicu: no if both installs the same file without u-a, which is bug
Mar 11 15:07:10 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, i could ask around... although if i find something, it will prolly be a windows binary....
Mar 11 15:07:13 <JaMa> sicu: but remove e2fsprogs-uuidgen as it's provided by util-linux-ng now
Mar 11 15:07:38 <JaMa> sicu: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=ec5081ee5b0449b02a0d051ac32e6fae31838dee http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/diff/recipes/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.inc?id=ef73bcd899aaf182fb596e5912c20f966e0e6951
Mar 11 15:09:28 <DocScrutinizer> JesusMcCloud: I doubt there's such a tool for linux, as it would collide with kernel accessing same i2c-bus concurrently
Mar 11 15:10:53 <JaMa> mickey|office: sorry to bother you again, but do you have any hint? http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/5303426.txt
Mar 11 15:10:59 <JesusMcCloud> i dont know about lowlevel stuff on neither win, nor linux
Mar 11 15:12:23 * DocScrutinizer wants a real low level hardware debugging&monitoring tool, like m80
Mar 11 15:13:49 <JesusMcCloud> and i want the revenue to give me the money i deserve... but odds are neither is gonna happen and some tax collectors are gonna get killed
Mar 11 15:13:59 * DocScrutinizer ponders if gdp could be exploited to do such hacks, by attaching it to the right process
Mar 11 15:14:30 <DocScrutinizer> gdb even
Mar 11 15:16:20 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, where on your priority list is sms folders?
Mar 11 15:18:23 <JesusMcCloud> crap, i gtg to class
Mar 11 15:19:01 <JaMa> JesusMcCloud|uni: you can update on your way there
Mar 11 15:19:02 <JaMa> :)
Mar 11 15:19:05 <JaMa> another upgrade
Mar 11 15:20:54 <mickey|office> JaMa: aaw, sorry
Mar 11 15:20:57 <mickey|office> let me fix that now
Mar 11 15:21:47 <JaMa> I've disabled msm plugin in om-gta02 now for build
Mar 11 15:25:34 <sicu> JaMa: ok, thanks =]
Mar 11 15:26:24 <JaMa> mickey|office: I think there is bigger problem now:/ in one of last pb patches there is staging of /etc/ dir
Mar 11 15:26:43 <JaMa> mickey|office: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=a9089155a6d877655230bb264f121a8db5b904fd
Mar 11 15:27:26 <JaMa> mickey|office: http://pastebin.ca/1833869 and this is outcome
Mar 11 15:28:11 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r332067234617 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/mediators.vala: fsogsmd: qualcomm_palm: catch up with changes in libmsmcomm
Mar 11 15:28:31 <sicu> pim.db replaces all the sqlite-*.db, right? or are they still in use?
Mar 11 15:29:31 <mrmoku> sicu: replaces, right
Mar 11 15:29:35 <mickey|office> JaMa: hmm, pb__ any idea?
Mar 11 15:30:14 <JaMa> mickey|office: hmm it looks like there should be something like STAGING_SYSCONFDIR? on right side
Mar 11 15:30:50 <mickey|office> yeah
Mar 11 15:31:00 <mickey|office> sysconfdir on the right side looks wrong
Mar 11 15:31:02 <sicu> mrmoku: thanks
Mar 11 15:32:45 <JaMa> mickey|office: ${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${sysconfdir} as STAGING_SYSCONFDIR doesn't exist
Mar 11 15:32:50 <JaMa> probably
Mar 11 15:33:25 <mickey|office> that or we add STAGING_SYSCONFDIR in base.bbclass
Mar 11 15:33:35 <mickey|office> (better for consistency)
Mar 11 15:37:57 <JaMa> mrmoku: working fsogsmd in feeds again
Mar 11 16:25:19 <sicu> mrmoku: love the new improved contacts, great work =]
Mar 11 16:50:04 <mickey|office> Hey folks, i need a gsoc backup mentor for the FSO application. Although we're probably not being accepted anyways, I can't file the form without one. Any volunteers w/ a GSoC LinkID?
Mar 11 17:45:50 <blindcoder> YAY!
Mar 11 17:46:10 <blindcoder> startup time for next fltkspacetrader version will be reduced to "instantly", down 99% from before :)
Mar 11 17:46:46 <vanous123> mickey|zzZZzz: how does one get GSoC LinkID?
Mar 11 17:46:53 <blindcoder> unfortunately, existing savegame and highscore will be lost
Mar 11 18:07:33 <beniwtv> Hi all... phoneuid is segfaulting again? :(
Mar 11 18:21:11 <alexxy> JaMa: mrmoku|away: TAsnn: how to convert full image into lite one?
Mar 11 18:21:28 <sicu> beniwtv: no segfaults here with upgraded shr-u
Mar 11 18:21:55 <beniwtv> sicu: Damn... I just upgraded and it still happens...  
Mar 11 18:22:14 <beniwtv> Messages and dialer window dissapear...
Mar 11 18:27:43 <sicu> beniwtv: upgrading now, will see if it makes a difference
Mar 11 18:28:28 <beniwtv> sicu: Maybe I did one upgrade when I shouldn't have and now it's broken for good :( I'll try re-flashing, I have everything on the SD card anyway...
Mar 11 18:30:00 <der-lehmann> hi, all my contacts are gone on shr-u! were are the problem?
Mar 11 18:30:43 <beniwtv> der-lehmann: you need to upgrade to the new opimd format
Mar 11 18:31:30 <beniwtv> it will not read contacts from the SIM anymore (you can import them to opimd with PISI if you haven't already)
Mar 11 18:32:27 <der-lehmann> a ok i will try this, thx 
Mar 11 18:33:18 <sicu> beniwtv: everything seems to be working nicely with latest upgrade here for me
Mar 11 18:33:41 <beniwtv> sicu: Good, I'm reflashing now and I'll see what happens.
Mar 11 18:34:00 <sicu> =]
Mar 11 18:36:34 <sicu> mrmoku|away: the accept/reject icons in latest call screen seem overly blurry compared to everything else
Mar 11 18:42:42 <JaMa> alexxy: remove task-shr-* (except minimal) recipes and all packages they are pulling to image
Mar 11 18:53:36 <beniwtv> sicu: The freshly flashed image still has the same problem. Will upgrade later and see what happens... have no time anymore to check now :(
Mar 11 18:55:46 <vanous123> are irc logs somewhere else then the link points to (not functioning...)
Mar 11 18:56:17 <JesusMcCloud> vanous123, livelogs are down, but...
Mar 11 18:56:26 <JesusMcCloud> ~logs
Mar 11 18:56:27 <apt> All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily
Mar 11 18:56:46 <JesusMcCloud> ^daily updated
Mar 11 18:56:50 <JesusMcCloud> afaik
Mar 11 18:58:12 <vanous123> JesusMcCloud: this works, thank you
Mar 11 20:14:52 <JesusMcCloud> whats the current location of gsmhandset?
Mar 11 20:17:40 <JaMa> JesusMcCloud: /etc/freesmartphone/GTA02/alsa-default
Mar 11 20:17:53 <JesusMcCloud> thx
Mar 11 20:21:25 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, is mrmoku's phoneui build in the feedsalready?
Mar 11 20:22:54 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: yup :)
Mar 11 20:23:08 <mrmoku> I removed all my local packages and upgraded
Mar 11 20:23:12 <mrmoku> and it works even :)
Mar 11 20:23:15 <JesusMcCloud> nice... time to remove local builds
Mar 11 20:23:53 <JesusMcCloud> crap! other peopel cant hear me!
Mar 11 20:24:05 <mrmoku> for p in `opkg list_installed | grep LOCAL | awk '{print $1}'`; do opkg remove -force-depends $p; opkg install $p; done 
Mar 11 20:24:11 <mrmoku> is what I do usually
Mar 11 20:39:53 <Q-Master> mrmoku: are you already merged everything?
Mar 11 20:40:40 <Q-Master> I see that edj files became bigger, but don't see almost any changes. 8)
Mar 11 20:41:17 <Q-Master> BTW, why are we using that horrible GRY theme?
Mar 11 20:41:21 <JesusMcCloud> Q-Master, soem more pngs i guess
Mar 11 20:41:43 <Q-Master> 2 times more? 8)
Mar 11 20:41:48 <JesusMcCloud> Q-Master, what theme woudl you prefer? (themcontest is still ongoing)
Mar 11 20:43:24 <Q-Master> JesusMcCloud: I'm using neo theme right now. It is almost perfect, except icon theme because it is not supporting all variety of apps installed and this annoys, but with current icon theme and neo illume theme everything roxx
Mar 11 20:46:46 <JesusMcCloud> Q-Master, you are talking to the ceator of the neo theme and gry* :-P ... btw neo theme wont work with curren tphoneui from what i saw.. i need to adapt it
Mar 11 20:48:05 <Q-Master> JesusMcCloud: adapt it plz. it is much better than gry
Mar 11 20:50:49 <JesusMcCloud> Q-Master, bad timing... need to clean my flat tonight (some time later) cause guests are coming... and i aam (amongst others) ranting about airport security... and i really liek to complain about sutff that is not effecting me currently
Mar 11 20:51:31 <vanous123> JaMa: what would it take to include zhone2 (aka aurora) into the feeds? :))
Mar 11 20:52:04 <vanous123> so one can follow the hot edge :)
Mar 11 20:52:12 <Q-Master> JesusMcCloud: I'm not forcing you to make all this adoptions to neo theme right now. 8)
Mar 11 20:53:04 <JesusMcCloud> Q-Master, i know.. also i would like a statement from mrmoku abeut theming mechanism...
Mar 11 20:53:24 <Q-Master> mrmoku: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 11 20:53:58 <GNUtoo|oeee> mickey|zzZZzz, hi, leviathan is back,he had hardware problems too
Mar 11 21:07:12 <JaMa> vanous123: no idea I didn't check the state of it.. if it's already useable, or just wip
Mar 11 21:08:15 <vanous123> not much atm i think but getting some tlc apparently
Mar 11 21:17:43 <leviathan> I still have HW-problems
Mar 11 21:17:48 <leviathan> my WS is still broken
Mar 11 21:17:53 <leviathan> whole MB death
Mar 11 21:18:00 <leviathan> need to buy a new one :(
Mar 11 23:33:58 <CIA-29> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r9c4a7a886a2f 10/zhone2/src/ (gsmagent.vala main.vala phonepage.vala): zhone2: gsm agent will handle all communication with GSM via DBus
Mar 11 23:36:52 <Wonka> src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/mediators.vala:63.34-63.49: error: The name `getInfo' does not exist in the context of `Msmcomm.Reply.GetFirmwareInfo?'
Mar 11 23:36:57 <Wonka> src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/mediators.vala:67.30-67.46: error: The name `getImei' does not exist in the context of `Msmcomm.Reply.GetImei?'
Mar 11 23:37:15 <mickey|zzZZzz> rebuild msmcommd
Mar 11 23:37:21 <mickey|zzZZzz> ah no
Mar 11 23:37:26 <mickey|zzZZzz> rebuild fsogsmd
Mar 11 23:37:30 <mickey|zzZZzz> has been updated some hours ago
Mar 11 23:38:01 <DocScrutinizer> sleeptyping? ;-D
Mar 11 23:38:19 <mickey|zzZZzz> somewhat. didn't really wake up the whole day
Mar 11 23:38:24 <mickey|zzZZzz> almost in bed as well
Mar 11 23:38:32 <mickey|zzZZzz> just catching up with some last mails
Mar 11 23:39:16 <Wonka> :)
Mar 11 23:39:22 <Wonka> nearly in bed too...
Mar 11 23:40:03 <Wonka> and the other build failures are not that important
Mar 11 23:40:19 * Wonka doesn't really care about mokoko atm
Mar 11 23:40:46 <Wonka> or xchat...
Mar 11 23:41:41 <DocScrutinizer51> don't listen to him, xchat :-)
Mar 12 00:01:15 <Wonka> still the same, though. fix seems not to have arrived yet in shr-u or something?
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