**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 13 02:59:57 2010 Mar 13 05:56:23 Good day all , do you advice illume or illume2 ? Mar 13 06:31:54 spaetzBBL: When do I know you've pushed something to the 'live' opkg repo site? Mar 13 08:05:44 hm... how do you clean your SIM? (running SHR) Mar 13 08:17:12 rhkfin, good question. At the momen, I ddevelop on the live site. So ccode changes will be there immediately. Mar 13 08:18:21 Once it becomes a bit more stable, I will depy it from time to time. Perhaps, I should introduce a version string. Mar 13 08:20:55 spaetz, question: as the current testing is a bit unstable, and you said there will be no updates to this testing version, do you suggest me to replace it with unstable and start playing with it? Mar 13 08:21:38 I mean, how are you thinking to manage to path from unstable - testing - stable? Mar 13 08:21:46 just curious Mar 13 08:22:38 oh, there will be updates to this shr-t, no doubt. There will be no updates to the old shr-t snapshot (from January) which will become shr-t stable... Mar 13 08:23:44 ok Mar 13 08:26:53 this shr-t will have to be improved and maintained for some time to come Mar 13 08:28:33 good Mar 13 08:42:09 mmontour_: what os is your buildhost running? Mar 13 08:42:13 * mrmoku has the same error :/ Mar 13 09:27:02 hm, isn't X forwarding working? Mar 13 09:30:48 nevermind, it's only disabled Mar 13 09:31:27 TAsnn: mrmoku: the new phoneui apps are looking good. some stability issues but definitively a progress :) Mar 13 09:31:58 yay, I get asked for SIM PIN again on shr-u :) Mar 13 09:34:38 in Contacts app, what are useful field names? for example to have a name for the contact? Mar 13 09:40:05 hm, when is phoneuid-wrapper launched? Mar 13 09:43:23 (and why a lib?) Mar 13 09:43:30 (well, a daemon) Mar 13 09:43:56 Weiss: just FYI, uploaded libdrm-glamo to Debian's pkg-fso - compiled against pure upstream libdrm tarball + patch I extracted from your repository. seems to work. Mar 13 09:44:52 Weiss: next step would be getting that stuff to official Debian, but it'll probably wait until Glamo support is part of an upstream release Mar 13 09:45:41 http://pkg-fso.nomeata.de/sid/libdrm-glamo1 Mar 13 09:48:02 moin Mar 13 10:22:38 vanous123: thanks :) Mar 13 10:23:01 mmontour_: turning off selinux fixed it for me Mar 13 10:23:21 mmontour_: you have to clean eglibc _and_ eglibc-initial for rebuild Mar 13 10:28:48 Mirv: ok, cool... Mar 13 11:32:49 where should i report spam on the fso bug tracker? Mar 13 11:36:03 morning Mar 13 11:56:07 Good day all , Does anyone have info about designing firewall with arm cpu ? or any ready scheme for board ? Mar 13 12:15:03 raster: Good day sir Mar 13 12:16:16 Kensan: yooooooo Mar 13 12:16:41 raster: moooooo Mar 13 12:16:45 raster: how is it going? I see that you have been busy with the N900 Mar 13 12:17:36 DocScrutinizer: pants! Mar 13 12:17:51 Kensan: that was just me toying around... Mar 13 12:18:11 heh Mar 13 12:18:11 I guess that's been a transient episode, caused by a random mood if kindness to maemo/Nokia Mar 13 12:18:13 evas's gl-es enigne works on then900 - minus some actual drvier bugs i've reported Mar 13 12:18:44 So that should also be applicable to the pandora Mar 13 12:19:01 yes Mar 13 12:19:13 assuming pandora have an x11 capable gl-es/egl Mar 13 12:19:53 didn't they include the same sgx as the n900? Mar 13 12:20:16 yes Mar 13 12:20:18 either way, it's still some time until they start shipping... Mar 13 12:20:23 but os is different Mar 13 12:20:28 gle-es libs are different Mar 13 12:20:38 based on the same original driver Mar 13 12:20:46 but nokia have spent time modifying theirs Mar 13 12:20:51 they will have source Mar 13 12:21:01 ah ok Mar 13 12:21:51 spaetz: so you're planning to release the -testing from 01/2010 as stable? Hmm.. ok.. Mar 13 12:22:00 raster: How are things coming along in korea? ;) Mar 13 12:22:15 raster: I came to the impression CVBS-out on N900 actually is 5/6/5 at best Mar 13 12:22:41 DocScrutinizer: cvbs? Mar 13 12:22:57 Kensan: heading back there next week Mar 13 12:23:03 no smooth color fades on video watched via AV-connector on a standard LCD TV Mar 13 12:23:15 never tried those cables Mar 13 12:23:26 i dont think i have anything that even uses/needs composite anymore Mar 13 12:23:35 everything i have is dvi/hdmi Mar 13 12:24:00 faces look like somebody took a brush and painted all over them with one color Mar 13 12:26:19 * raster is amazed anyone would use composite in this day and age Mar 13 12:26:56 well, almost all TV sets support some sort ov composite input Mar 13 12:28:13 I'm not sure it's the hw-decoder DSP or maybe the source is poor quality and what I see are actually compression artefacts Mar 13 12:29:12 it's composite Mar 13 12:29:20 i'd expect composite to look like a horses arse Mar 13 12:29:25 its hooooooooooooooorible Mar 13 12:29:38 ugh ugh ugh ewww Mar 13 12:29:49 hehe Mar 13 12:31:42 I'm aware of the technical limits of composite. It's not an excuse for the abyssmal quality I see when watching movies only, though Mar 13 12:32:13 bah Mar 13 12:32:20 i'd just write composite off Mar 13 12:33:05 analogue poo Mar 13 12:33:06 you're in an easy position here Mar 13 12:33:27 yeah - i left analogue behind :) Mar 13 12:33:36 N900 e.g has no HDMI connector ;-P Mar 13 12:33:43 poopie! Mar 13 12:33:55 (it could.. they could add an hdmi framer in...) Mar 13 12:34:18 yeah they *could* Mar 13 12:36:00 amyway my question was, err.... maybe: do you know of any decent test material for video (let's say a known good encoding of a test picture, etc) Mar 13 12:36:06 they SHOULD have Mar 13 12:36:17 hmm Mar 13 12:36:24 you should search for mpeg test images Mar 13 12:36:29 or jpeg Mar 13 12:36:31 back in the day... Mar 13 12:36:38 but that was for codecs Mar 13 12:36:41 not for composite Mar 13 12:36:43 dunno Mar 13 12:36:50 for testing composite image quality Mar 13 12:37:22 cmposite has nothing to do with the builtin H264 et al HW decoder Mar 13 12:38:04 I'm interested in testing the decoder, not the composite "hardware" Mar 13 12:39:51 errr Mar 13 12:40:07 so nothing to do with your complaint about composite video quality (the faces) ? Mar 13 12:41:07 my complaint was about *video* quality (which happens to show when watching the video via composite). It's clearly _not_ a composite related issue though Mar 13 12:41:46 it's like decoder is using 5/6/5 or somesuch Mar 13 12:42:21 .oO( I'd like new HW to have DisplayPort, not HDMI, DVI or even VGA... ) Mar 13 12:43:21 DocScrutinizer: does it look ok on lcd? Mar 13 12:44:18 (5/6/5) I can't rule out the video source material I've been watching when noticing this issue was poorly encoded (high compression, low bitrate). So my question about known-good test.mpg Mar 13 12:44:46 well does it look ok on lcd? Mar 13 12:44:52 if so - your problem is compositoe out Mar 13 12:44:59 raster: it looks better on builtin LCD tha it does on external TV LCD Mar 13 12:45:16 yes -= it would invariably Mar 13 12:45:22 but is it annaceptably bad? Mar 13 12:45:28 composite out can't introduce discontinuities in a color fade Mar 13 12:46:01 i belive the composite out is scanned froma different fb from the lcd Mar 13 12:46:09 sodecode is writing to a differen fb anyway Mar 13 12:46:18 but.. its writing the same content - same original Mar 13 12:46:25 and also internal LCD is driven by a separate video buffer than external AV/composite Mar 13 12:46:30 so your problem is between the data from tnat fb and your analogue tv Mar 13 12:46:35 thus - the compositoe out Mar 13 12:46:38 composite Mar 13 12:48:12 i would seriously dowbt the vidoe decode is decoding to a differenty fb format than it is already dealing with Mar 13 12:48:26 either yuv->rgb or yuv output Mar 13 12:48:43 yuv->Rgb is a well known and handled case si i seriously doubt there is an issue there Mar 13 12:49:01 raster: composite is an analog signal. It can't mangle the video in a way to make a german flag with three stripes of different color, out of a source that has a smooth colorfade sunset picture Mar 13 12:51:00 composite is "smoothing" details, and might reduce the color definition. But what I see is a *digital* artefact quite clearly Mar 13 12:52:06 well i dont see it - so i dont know Mar 13 12:52:13 is it only for a brief second? Mar 13 12:52:28 is it because the fb scans out while being written to and thus u get partial contents? Mar 13 12:52:33 i dont know - i dont see it Mar 13 12:52:59 it's like watching a video on a 16k colors screen Mar 13 12:53:46 5/6/5 maybe Mar 13 12:54:07 i'd have to see it Mar 13 12:54:23 it definitely might be the composite encoder has fidelity issues Mar 13 12:54:27 i dont know Mar 13 12:54:36 i dont know what format this buffer is Mar 13 12:54:44 yuv or rgb... - whihc rgb? Mar 13 12:55:58 Anyone know if qtmoko removes contacts and SMS's from SIM? (heard rumours, would like someone to confirm..) Mar 13 12:56:44 it could be the buffer is rgb565 - because the omap3 i think can do 3 fb's Mar 13 12:56:46 or was it 4 Mar 13 12:56:48 BUT they have limits Mar 13 12:56:59 1 can be rgb32 - thats what the lcd is Mar 13 12:57:04 I'm missing any decent reference equipment here, maybe I'll send you the source video and you see if it has the same abysmal quality and compression artefacts I described I've seen on N900 playback to my TV? Mar 13 12:57:09 there is a yuv fb (overlay) there too Mar 13 12:57:23 my guess is composite uses the 3rd - and from memoyr it was limited to rgb565 Mar 13 12:57:33 thus - u may be seeing video output converted to rgb565 Mar 13 12:57:48 and for speed they do nodithering - they just blindly drop down to rgb565 Mar 13 12:58:10 DocScrutinizer: take a photo of your tv? Mar 13 12:58:12 :) Mar 13 12:59:16 (rgb565) exactly matching what I seem to see here :-/ (photo) alas the only semi-decent cam here is in N900 :-P Mar 13 12:59:29 hahahahah Mar 13 12:59:34 that suckls Mar 13 12:59:36 sucks Mar 13 12:59:41 makes that one hard tyo debug Mar 13 12:59:49 but if it looks like rgb565 - it just may be Mar 13 13:00:00 i'd need to know the source image data and the output Mar 13 13:00:27 but if it is as i say above Mar 13 13:00:31 the fb is the rgb565 onje Mar 13 13:00:34 thus its limited to that Mar 13 13:00:41 u will have those bands - u'll have to live with them Mar 13 13:00:56 and composite will convert them to analogue output - bands and all Mar 13 13:01:14 yep Mar 13 13:01:17 :-/ Mar 13 13:01:38 u can dither output Mar 13 13:01:50 still I'd like to confirm, by using sorta test.mpg Mar 13 13:01:53 but u wont get nokia to change that code - they will say its a speed tradeoff Mar 13 13:02:02 and it is Mar 13 13:02:27 yep, of course Mar 13 13:04:00 tho u can do alternate-line dithering relatively cheaply Mar 13 13:04:08 but then u'll complain of a lined appearance Mar 13 13:04:09 :) Mar 13 13:05:00 just want to make sure the device is at least a bandaid video player for e.g adhoc conferences or holiday leisure, or it's definitely unusable due to inferior quality of fb/decoder Mar 13 13:05:52 at 800x480 it's already inferior for conferences Mar 13 13:07:11 hi guys, i've just implemented vibrator apis in libframeworkd-glib Mar 13 13:07:25 now i don't know git very well :) Mar 13 13:07:29 how do I commit this? Mar 13 13:07:35 or how to generate a patch.. Mar 13 13:09:15 daniele_athome: you have a git checkout of libframeworkd-glib I guess? Mar 13 13:09:31 mrmoku, yes of course Mar 13 13:09:44 daniele_athome: then commit it Mar 13 13:09:47 (locally) Mar 13 13:09:51 ok Mar 13 13:10:25 and use git send-mail Mar 13 13:10:42 and send the patch to shr-devel Mar 13 13:11:42 mmm Mar 13 13:12:05 reinstalling it right now... to give you more pointers :) Mar 13 13:12:30 mrmoku, any success on using libfso-glib? Mar 13 13:12:36 playya: nop Mar 13 13:12:40 mrmoku, you mean i should send the patch to ML using send-mail? Mar 13 13:12:46 still the vala problem? Mar 13 13:12:49 or send-mail is used just to generate the patch file? Mar 13 13:13:02 daniele_athome: send-mail does both Mar 13 13:13:27 ok Mar 13 13:13:27 daniele_athome: you can also do format-patch and send the resulting patch by hand Mar 13 13:13:52 because for send-mail you have to configure your git for sending mails.. Mar 13 13:14:02 daniele_athome: man git-send-email Mar 13 13:14:11 yes i know...lol Mar 13 13:14:22 Heinervdm: but without he won't get proper credit :P Mar 13 13:15:08 Heinervdm: btw. how's c coding working out? :) Mar 13 13:15:15 mrmoku: ok, that's right format patch uses the same configs for credits Mar 13 13:16:02 mrmoku: i don't know if i understand Elm_Genlist, but if i have then i'm done with the main things Mar 13 13:16:27 Heinervdm: I started to implement ui-utils-contacts-contact-number-select() Mar 13 13:16:37 still waiting for my tmp to populate though :/ Mar 13 13:16:59 nice :) Mar 13 13:17:20 mmm Mar 13 13:17:22 No subject line in ./AUTHORS ? at /usr/lib/git-core/git-send-email line 522. Mar 13 13:17:36 i guess i had better to use format-patch :P Mar 13 13:18:22 daniele_athome: git send-email HEAD^..HEAD Mar 13 13:19:02 :) Mar 13 13:20:23 playya: still segfaulted... Mar 13 13:20:51 playya: next thing I wanted to do is to take a look at zhone2 generated c code Mar 13 13:23:48 mmm Mar 13 13:23:53 Heinervdm, i should have sent it Mar 13 13:23:54 http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-March/002295.html Mar 13 13:23:57 but there is not attachment... Mar 13 13:24:29 s/not/no/ Mar 13 13:24:30 daniele_athome meant: but there is no attachment... Mar 13 13:24:55 daniele_athome: you commited your changes before? Mar 13 13:24:59 git commit -a Mar 13 13:25:00 of course Mar 13 13:25:12 mmm Mar 13 13:25:15 i've done commit without -a Mar 13 13:25:16 and added a proper commit message there? Mar 13 13:25:23 just git commit? Mar 13 13:25:55 you have to say what you are commiting, either a path or -a for everything Mar 13 13:26:04 ok i've done -a Mar 13 13:26:04 or many other posibillities Mar 13 13:26:13 and send-email but still no attachment Mar 13 13:26:20 :) Mar 13 13:26:37 git status: Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 2 commits. Mar 13 13:26:47 daniele_athome: try sending it to yourself first :P Mar 13 13:27:00 you can do "git format-patch -1" to verify the patch Mar 13 13:27:23 and after that you dann do git send-email path/to/patch Mar 13 13:28:10 Heinervdm, how do I tell send-email to create the patch for 2 commits? Mar 13 13:28:17 HEAD^..HEAD is for just one commit Mar 13 13:28:21 HEAD^^..HEAD Mar 13 13:28:43 thanks Mar 13 13:29:36 ok it works with my mailbox Mar 13 13:29:46 but I'm reading the patch from pipermail Mar 13 13:30:11 is the list archive cutting out something? Mar 13 13:31:14 daniele_athome: no, it was without patch Mar 13 13:31:27 ok... sigh Mar 13 13:31:32 daniele_athome: you can now forward that patch from you mailbox ;) Mar 13 13:31:36 ah lol Mar 13 13:31:37 ok Mar 13 13:32:13 but usally that works without a problem... Mar 13 13:32:46 mrmoku: i tried to make a Elm_Genlist like in Contacts view Mar 13 13:33:07 do i need sth in the .edc for the genlist entrys? Mar 13 13:34:02 Heinervdm: depends on how you want it to look like Mar 13 13:34:08 or better what does it contain? Mar 13 13:34:22 It should contain Name and Number Mar 13 13:34:26 if the lists content is the same as the one of the contacts Mar 13 13:34:32 you can reuse that one Mar 13 13:34:40 what part is it? Mar 13 13:34:45 in contacts.edc Mar 13 13:34:55 aaah ok :) Mar 13 13:34:56 http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-March/002297.html Mar 13 13:34:59 there are 5 or 6 parts Mar 13 13:35:01 http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-March/002298.html Mar 13 13:35:05 please see if it's correct :) Mar 13 13:35:23 Heinervdm: the list style is the first one Mar 13 13:35:29 mrmoku: ok Mar 13 13:35:34 just use 'contact' as your list style Mar 13 13:40:07 Heinervdm, i was thinking... is libframeworkd-glib a fso project? Mar 13 13:40:09 daniele_athome: looking at your patch... did you try it? Mar 13 13:40:15 daniele_athome: yup, fso Mar 13 13:40:20 mrmoku, of course... i use it in a program of mines Mar 13 13:40:30 so I should send the patch to fso list, not to shr Mar 13 13:40:32 though I'm the only one (up to now) working on it Mar 13 13:40:44 ok Mar 13 13:41:15 i tried to respect the programming methods Mar 13 13:41:20 ahh, connecting to the vibrator comes with the second patch :) Mar 13 13:41:39 SHR: 03zimmermann 07libphone-ui-shr * rae88be6bf36b 10/ (data/sim-manager.edc src/view/sim-manager-view.c): sim-manager: add initial code to seceleton Mar 13 13:41:40 :) Mar 13 13:42:59 SHR: 03zimmermann 07libphone-ui * r059fa8ada569 10/src/ (phoneui-utils.c phoneui.h.in): sim-manager: add initial code to seceleton Mar 13 13:47:33 daniele_athome: hmm... how did you send the patch? it got line-wrapped :/ Mar 13 13:50:17 oh god... gmail Mar 13 13:50:19 sorry Mar 13 13:50:37 tomorrow i will resend it Mar 13 13:51:14 :P Mar 13 13:51:25 ok Mar 13 13:51:30 I tried to fix the linewrapping Mar 13 13:51:36 but the end is missing something too Mar 13 13:52:12 so better resend it :) Mar 13 14:28:50 mrmoku, what about a plain old diff? :) Mar 13 14:30:46 very well!!! :) Mar 13 14:30:50 mrmoku, Heinervdm: http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-March/002301.html Mar 13 14:30:54 at last... Mar 13 14:30:55 :) Mar 13 14:41:53 daniele_athome: [mok@mrdenker libframeworkd-glib]$ pw 690 Mar 13 14:41:53 2010-03-13 15:39:59 URL:http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch//690/mbox/ [22808] -> "pw-am-690.patch" [1] Mar 13 14:41:56 Applying: Please welcome the vibrator APIs Mar 13 14:41:59 fatal: corrupt patch at line 666 Mar 13 14:42:09 it still has some problem at the end Mar 13 14:44:44 mmm Mar 13 14:44:50 mrmoku, what do you mean? Mar 13 14:45:29 using the patch program it goes ok Mar 13 14:45:36 mrmoku, i've created it with diff Mar 13 14:45:38 daniele_athome: git am or apply say it is corrupt Mar 13 14:45:40 not with git patch Mar 13 14:45:43 ahh Mar 13 14:45:45 :) Mar 13 14:45:46 ok Mar 13 14:45:49 mrmoku, what about a plain old diff? :) Mar 13 14:45:52 ;) Mar 13 14:45:55 applied it with patch Mar 13 14:46:11 very well :) Mar 13 14:48:45 daniele_athome: you have vibrator.{xml,h} twice in your patch... once in the correct place and once in root... Mar 13 14:48:48 fixed that Mar 13 14:48:55 why does ogsmd_sim_store_entry need an index but ogsmd_sim_store_message not? Mar 13 14:48:56 mmm Mar 13 14:48:59 freesmartphone.org: 03daniele.athome 07libframeworkd-glib * r1b4c0e21a6fe 10/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Mar 13 14:48:59 freesmartphone.org: Please welcome the vibrator APIs Mar 13 14:48:59 freesmartphone.org: The correct one :-) Mar 13 14:48:59 freesmartphone.org: Hoping that the attachment goes through... Mar 13 14:48:59 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Mar 13 14:49:42 mrmoku, where? Mar 13 14:49:52 i'm reading the patch i don't see it Mar 13 14:50:43 daniele_athome: hmm... probably my fault - first tried to apply it without -p1 :P Mar 13 14:50:46 so nvm Mar 13 14:50:49 ok Mar 13 14:54:15 committed :) Mar 13 14:54:20 hmm, I really doubt git is as much fun and everyday useful to everybody, as suggested by PaulFertser Mar 13 14:55:01 ehm mrmoku Mar 13 14:55:05 sorry i forgot a thing Mar 13 14:55:13 mickeyl: why does http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.html;hb=HEAD#StoreEntry needs an index? Do i have to search first in the phonebook for an empty index and then use it? Or can i do sth else so that frameworkd will choose the index of it's own? Mar 13 14:55:21 i left the part between #if 0 and #endif Mar 13 14:55:27 :( Mar 13 14:55:32 please remove it Mar 13 14:55:48 more feels to me like main fun is "yeah, ans *still* I did it, *despite* git" Mar 13 14:56:23 hi guys! which directory need to be deleted if we want to rebuild from scratch? Mar 13 14:56:31 Heinervdm: SIM doesn't have any concept of "Empty" or "Full" contact entry Mar 13 14:56:44 Heinervdm: we can change framework to look for the first entry with contact name = "" Mar 13 14:56:49 Heinervdm: then return the entry Mar 13 14:57:09 I'd rather not do that in ogsmd though Mar 13 14:57:12 can do it for fsogsmd Mar 13 14:57:32 mickeyl: fail! there might be sparse entries in SIM Mar 13 14:58:02 mickeyl: ok, if there is no concept for that i will search for an empty index on my own Mar 13 14:58:28 I.E nothing stops me to store a contact to #99 and leave #1..#98 empty Mar 13 14:58:56 nobody knows? :) Mar 13 14:59:26 GarthPS: building what? SHR? Mar 13 14:59:52 Heinervdm : oh yep sorry yes SHR Mar 13 15:00:03 GarthPS: then you have to delete the OE temp dir, but you should keep the files in tmp/cache Mar 13 15:00:18 why this difference? Mar 13 15:01:34 Heinervdm : why keeping tmp/cache? Mar 13 15:01:34 in cache the git revs are stored Mar 13 15:01:45 and? Mar 13 15:01:57 Heinervdm: mickeyl: actually old nokia and Siemens (dunno about more recent ones) had a concept of "48#" being a speeddial of storage #48 in SIM Mar 13 15:02:04 and if you delete that cache you can't upgrade anymore Mar 13 15:02:38 Heinervdm : ok thanks but If I don't car of upgrading, then it is ok right? Mar 13 15:02:50 GarthPS: yes Mar 13 15:02:58 Heinervdm : ok thanks! Mar 13 15:04:06 DocScrutinizer: but if the user just want to save a contact to sim, then we can use the first empty one, can't we? Mar 13 15:05:07 usually we can. But a really comprehensive UI should allow user to select *any* arbitrary storage location/number Mar 13 15:05:59 DocScrutinizer: so we can make it optional Mar 13 15:06:14 e.g afaik #1 is reserved for voicebox Mar 13 15:06:49 #32,33,34 are predefined by certain special modes Mar 13 15:07:49 (Nokia monitor mode cell forced reselect, voice dsp enhancement - > parameter passed via those locations' "phone number" Mar 13 15:08:10 I have another question. Where is the best place to store my recipes whith no risk for them to be deleted by an "make update" Mar 13 15:09:02 GarthPS: i've added the following line to my local conf: BBFILES += "${TOPDIR}/mypackages/*/*.bb" Mar 13 15:09:30 GarthPS: then i can store my recipes in shr-unstable/mypackages/.../*.bb Mar 13 15:10:03 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re9a6e49ba3c6 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atmediators.vala watchdog.vala): fsogmsd: send auth code mediator: transform +CME ERROR 16 into FSO error SIM_AUTH_FAILED Mar 13 15:10:26 Heinervdm : ok thanks again! because I have just lost meine.. :( I need to find how to restore it if it is possible Mar 13 15:10:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r165e8a902709 10/zhone2/src/ (6 files): zhone2: show pin edit page and unlock Mar 13 15:27:40 mrmoku, i sent the fixed patch to shr-devel Mar 13 15:27:43 bye! Mar 13 15:34:13 GNUtoo|oeee: where did you do this changes with reset and so on? Mar 13 15:34:24 ? Mar 13 15:34:33 grep the file Mar 13 15:38:54 hi leviathan & GNUtoo|oeee Mar 13 15:39:00 hi Mar 13 15:47:00 Hiya Mar 13 15:47:08 mhh, i am unable to erase file from my flash memory, despites having 6 mo free Mar 13 15:47:31 I am trying to figure out why my contacts aren't showing up anymore... and the "Other" settings group says "can't connect to FSO". Mar 13 15:52:46 Derick, for the contacts, wait a bit more... if it doesn't work, have you ran the conversion script? Mar 13 16:00:49 mickeyl: hi Mar 13 16:01:32 leviathan: hi, long time no see. how are we standing wrt. dream? Mar 13 16:03:11 uhm Mar 13 16:03:18 I got illume2 running Mar 13 16:03:28 rotation is still a problem Mar 13 16:03:36 I can't work such efficient on it ATM Mar 13 16:03:51 because my workstations CPU is borned out >_< Mar 13 16:05:49 how do you get SHR on the dream? permanent firmware flash? Mar 13 16:07:51 blindcoder: as you like Mar 13 16:07:55 you can flash Mar 13 16:08:04 but you can also boot from SD with a proper bootloader Mar 13 16:09:02 mickeyl: I'd prefer to keep the original OS as a fallback Mar 13 16:09:08 yep Mar 13 16:09:13 same here Mar 13 16:09:16 :) Mar 13 16:09:24 although i have the ADP1 Mar 13 16:09:27 which is designed to hack Mar 13 16:09:37 anyway, my contract runs out next month. Any suggestions for a new phone (T-Mobile Germany) that is not an iPhone? Mar 13 16:09:46 blindcoder: palm pre Mar 13 16:09:53 we're making good progress here w/ FSO on palm pre Mar 13 16:10:07 and again, you can keep the original OS intact Mar 13 16:10:13 nice :) and nice again :) Mar 13 16:10:39 I was disappointed by Palm when they switched to Windows Mobile, but with a proper SHR *dreams* Mar 13 16:11:07 my A7 FreeRunner has too much buzz to be usable, I'll get access to a multimeter for checking something with Doc next week Mar 13 16:11:20 but I've been looking at the Pre for a while Mar 13 16:13:58 too bad T-Mobile doesn't have it. But I guess I can arrange something Mar 13 16:19:02 leviathan: ok, i was rather thinking RF, Audio, and Suspend/Resume though. what's missing there? Mar 13 16:19:28 blindcoder, change your contract and sign a constrct with O2 Mar 13 16:20:03 IIRC o2 sells them without contract too Mar 13 16:20:08 playya: why? Mar 13 16:20:21 they have the pre :) Mar 13 16:20:23 playya: right now I pay 15 EUR per month for my business contract with t-mobile Mar 13 16:20:24