**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 17 02:59:57 2010 Mar 17 06:40:57 TAsn: heh, welcome back Mar 17 06:41:04 moin Mar 17 06:41:09 moin Mar 17 06:41:37 when using pisi on SHR-T, should the option be set to TRUE or FALSE? Mar 17 06:41:46 I was under the impression it should be TRUE Mar 17 06:48:34 field support? should be enabled, yes Mar 17 06:50:42 hrm... Mar 17 06:50:57 must be me then Mar 17 06:59:50 blindcoder: old testing or new testing? Mar 17 07:00:28 = January 25 testing, March 6 testing or March 9 testing? Mar 17 07:00:29 or more precisely... what rev of frameworkd? Mar 17 07:02:10 frameworkd - 1:0.9.5.9+gitr1725+c82491...985c5-r3.4 Mar 17 07:13:42 blindcoder: that is with fields support... but not the current one Mar 17 07:15:42 opkg update from yesterday evening. Mar 17 07:16:00 but I guess it's the contacts application then Mar 17 07:16:18 when I imported from a .vcf file with pisi, I got "(no number)" in contacts Mar 17 07:18:27 but the "Cell phone" fields were all filled Mar 17 07:21:36 "Cell phone" is a pain for the phoneui yet. 8) Mar 17 07:22:26 blindcoder: yeah... IIRC testing still has the 'not fields aware' phoneui stuff... so if the field is not called Phone... it won't recognize it as number Mar 17 07:25:02 interestingly, "Cell Phone" (capital P) works ;) Mar 17 07:32:13 spaetz, mrmoku: 08:13:25 < lukhas> the RAM should be ordered today, so with any luck, it'll be replaced by the end of the week Mar 17 07:35:43 I remember seeing "mobile number" as a field name? Mar 17 07:38:08 blindcoder: 8) Mar 17 07:38:22 blindcoder: need to tell to TAsn Mar 17 07:44:49 Q-Master: no need... as he's talking about testing... and all that changed already Mar 17 07:46:29 mrmoku: the problem existed before TAsn's flight. opimd import script lost some "Cell phone" fields and some of them were broken in phoneui again. Need to check it now. Mar 17 07:47:55 mrmoku: phoneui is ok now. Mar 17 07:50:16 mrmoku: can you plz also fix the contact-list? There's a problem. If contact has no name, but only surname or nick it is displayed as (unknown) and the second problem is that contacts are sorted only by name, but they should then also be sorted by nick and then by surname. or else there's a mess in a list. Mar 17 07:56:43 mrmoku: if unstable is "stable enough" for daily use I'll happily switch :) Mar 17 08:03:31 yop. In case this interest some one : bitbake shs-image in shr-u ends with ERROR: '/home/sylvain/dev/SHR-Build/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/ventura_svn.bb' failed => Mar 17 08:03:31 callbacks.h:21:21: error: EWebKit.h: No such file or directory Mar 17 08:10:03 GarthPS: but webkit-efl package was build? Mar 17 08:10:37 GarthPS: can you look for EWebKit.h? perhaps it was moved Mar 17 08:10:45 or your staging is corrupt Mar 17 08:10:45 hum don't know, will look Mar 17 08:14:32 Heinervdm : sorry. It works now.. juste updated. I have repeted my issue of last night too quickly :) . I did not expect tha it will be solved as soon as this Mar 17 08:15:29 hmm, only E versions were updated... Mar 17 08:18:44 .. Mar 17 08:22:05 GarthPS: ventura is fixed.. Mar 17 08:22:42 GarthPS: I reported to c_c about 2 weeks ago.. he wanted to fix something, but because it took lot more time than he expected, he commited that small revert today.. Mar 17 08:22:59 GarthPS: I'll push one commit and merge it to shr-u Mar 17 08:24:32 JaMa: ok thx. but for information i just succed bitbake shr-image (shr-u) Mar 17 08:26:02 brb Mar 17 08:38:02 GarthPS: I know, that's because ventura is set to AUTOREV :) Mar 17 08:48:22 blindcoder: me and others think it is stable enough *NOW*. That might change with upgrades though ;) Mar 17 08:51:20 thought so :P Mar 17 08:51:53 spaetz: backport field type aware phonui to shr-t? :) Mar 17 09:03:16 blindcoder: right now we have problems with an unreliable buildhost... which is waiting for memory exchange... don't think we want to build something there now Mar 17 09:07:53 I see. Mar 17 09:23:12 mrmoku: do we have sth. like a progressbar in libphone-ui-shr? Mar 17 09:27:45 Heinervdm: no (not yet) Mar 17 09:27:52 ok Mar 17 09:33:52 DocScrutinizer51: yes http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2291 Mar 17 10:44:28 Hi Mar 17 10:45:47 blindcoder: hah, backporting. I will be happy if I am able to compile the shit. Mar 17 10:46:51 :) Mar 17 10:47:05 hehe ;) Mar 17 10:47:06 spaetz: I guess you can merge whole shr-u now Mar 17 10:47:39 jama: hehe, probably. Mar 17 10:48:10 Just compiled the version that I cherry picked together yesterday. Will test that on my phone now. Mar 17 10:48:29 spaetz: I don't know about any new issue (after your last merge) and everything builds fine here Mar 17 10:50:59 spaetz: yup, you at least want the frameworkd default field fix and probably current libphone-ui-shr Mar 17 10:51:23 and that will be a good testing :) Mar 17 10:51:56 playya__: hmm... libfso-glib makes phonefsod exit on dbus error I think Mar 17 10:52:50 playya__: possible that it throws some exception that causes this? Mar 17 11:27:08 morning Mar 17 11:34:02 wow, the openmoko induces mouseclicks into my laptops mouse ;) Mar 17 11:34:25 probably any other phone, too, but here I noticed :) Mar 17 11:39:52 mrmoku: frameworkd should be in the latest version Mar 17 11:40:38 spaetz: yup Mar 17 11:42:29 mrmoku: shr-testing has 0039f8cd21ce007ac20de8f4525ad7c6e96804c0 which is the very latest frameworkd Mar 17 11:42:59 lunch, then FR testing. WIll report back Mar 17 11:50:58 spaetz: cherry-pick 806b1f04ac7e605f99bd9dff92576b93adb90370 , 67b3baea2fd5203fe5dd6abec3530df4abe672ee Mar 17 12:38:51 done Mar 17 12:38:59 thanks Mar 17 12:42:46 spaetz: sorry for conflict 9d39425ecaa8911345fca461294b62f09a911547 changed sane-srcrevs.inc before, cherry-pick it too and resolve conflict better (now you have <<<<< there) Mar 17 12:47:15 any news about the htc port? Mar 17 12:47:22 htc dream port? Mar 17 13:09:49 spaetz: now two more c240d00f5fdfec0d58b6e0d32975e2d6c74a2a05 , 51b6131073d8d391f944aea1d8bb9c40200c6ba1 Mar 17 13:19:51 mickeyl: FYI for working fsogsmd I still need DEBUG in libgsm0710mux section of fsogsmd.conf Mar 17 13:21:46 without DEBUG: Mar 17 13:21:47 2010-03-17T14:16:16.012412Z [ERROR] TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Can't open main channel; open returned false Mar 17 13:21:50 2010-03-17T14:16:16.013037Z [ERROR] DBusServiceDevice <>: Can't open modem Mar 17 13:21:53 with DEBUG: Mar 17 13:22:01 2010-03-17T14:18:44.039811Z [INFO] DBusServiceDevice <>: Modem opened successfully Mar 17 13:27:52 hi Mar 17 13:28:25 On SHR-u (installed on the NAND), I've tried, without success, to mount a partition of my µSD as /home Mar 17 14:20:00 JaMa: done Mar 17 14:20:08 thanks Mar 17 14:25:40 spaetz: bb75d7f3b63de61ed1f79efeb47df57a2328c37c too please :) Mar 17 14:26:00 ARRG; you guys are too quick. haven't even tested the old one :) Mar 17 14:27:13 done, thanks Mar 17 14:28:25 seems you forgot 9d39425ecaa8911345fca461294b62f09a911547 Mar 17 14:28:59 I did indeed Mar 17 14:29:49 heh and those <<< for resolve are now doubled :/ Mar 17 14:30:16 just pushed 9d39 Mar 17 14:30:24 where did I double stuff? Mar 17 14:30:35 please check diff against shr/unstable checkout after cherry-picking 9d39425ecaa8911345fca461294b62f09a911547 it should be almost the same (except about 8 recipes with SRCREV inside were moved to obsolete) Mar 17 14:30:46 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc Mar 17 14:31:15 spaetz: there were 2 chunks for resolve Mar 17 14:31:30 arrg, going through now Mar 17 14:31:34 spaetz: you fixed 1st and 2nd is now doubled Mar 17 14:33:11 pushed Mar 17 14:33:18 hopefully fixed properly now. Mar 17 14:34:51 spaetz: almost properly :) Mar 17 14:35:05 almost? I give up :) Mar 17 14:35:10 but it shouldn't fail unless someone try to build shr-messages Mar 17 14:35:14 what did I mix up? Mar 17 14:35:27 Let me know or push a fix, please :) I lost track.. Mar 17 14:35:32 ahh, shr-messages Mar 17 14:35:42 those recipes I moved to obsolete, I moved srcrevs to them first Mar 17 14:35:43 isn't that this old obsolete crap, that we should simply remove :) Mar 17 14:35:50 and you don't have this commit Mar 17 14:35:53 I see Mar 17 14:36:03 so for your branch you still "need" srcrev for them Mar 17 14:36:08 I see. Mar 17 14:36:30 Well, unles bitbake craps out, I can live with it being unbuilable until I merge in the next shr-u Mar 17 14:36:59 617dcf866afc8db1a31d91d6a74c84e5f6cc276c 617dcf866afc8db1a31d91d6a74c84e5f6cc276c Mar 17 14:37:34 this should create equal sane-srcrevs.inc (and maybe safe few conflicts later) Mar 17 14:40:06 s/safe/save/ Mar 17 14:40:06 JaMa meant: this should create equal sane-srcrevs.inc (and maybe save few conflicts later) Mar 17 14:41:29 fatal: bad object 617dcf866afc8db1a31d91d6a74c84e5f6cc276c Mar 17 14:41:33 should I have that? Mar 17 14:43:08 spaetz: which package? Mar 17 14:43:20 spaetz: no you shouldn't it's valid cornucopia rev Mar 17 14:49:44 ahh, cornucopia rev... Mar 17 14:51:29 * DocScrutinizer prepares coffee and cookies for mrmoku spaetz JaMa and himself Mar 17 14:52:12 great! thanks DocS! Mar 17 14:52:28 * mrmoku is very thankful for a big, strong and black coffee from Doc :D Mar 17 14:52:42 coffee! THANKS! Mar 17 15:03:52 mrmoku: cookie 691 is eaten right? or is it some different version than what you pushed? Mar 17 15:21:05 JaMa: let me check Mar 17 15:21:34 yeah eaten Mar 17 15:26:02 mrmoku: thanks, marked as eaten :) Mar 17 15:34:10 Q-Master, /me is back. :P Mar 17 15:34:10 JaMa: thank you :) Mar 17 15:34:19 TAsn: heh, morning :P Mar 17 15:34:20 mrmoku, hey. :P Mar 17 15:34:26 TAsn: welcome! 8) Mar 17 15:34:28 thanks. Mar 17 15:34:29 :) Mar 17 15:34:43 niente wifi in the hotel lobby ;) Mar 17 15:35:09 there was wifi Mar 17 15:35:16 though I didn't take my laptop :P Mar 17 15:35:16 what had we stayed on? "Cell phone" problem? Seems that wasn't yours. 8) Mar 17 15:35:24 ahh :P Mar 17 15:35:26 Q-Master, then whos? Mar 17 15:35:41 (I know I rock :P ) Mar 17 15:35:50 mrmoku, btw, did we merge contacts branch already? :P Mar 17 15:36:20 long ago, yes Mar 17 15:36:28 mrmoku's 8) and seems that it's fixed. I am not yet 100% sure, but seems everything is ok now. Mar 17 15:36:30 as the old stuff did not work out with new opimd Mar 17 15:36:52 mrmoku, hehe :P Mar 17 15:36:56 TAsn: main problem was that opimd does not create default fields for contacts Mar 17 15:37:03 mrmoku, are everyone happy? Mar 17 15:37:06 mrmoku, sure it does Mar 17 15:37:06 that caused some problems ;) Mar 17 15:37:22 the conversion script Mar 17 15:37:24 new opimd does create fields for contacts Mar 17 15:37:26 but not opimd Mar 17 15:37:28 also in the conversion script Mar 17 15:37:35 opimd as well Mar 17 15:37:37 was commented out... and dos1 activated the code Mar 17 15:37:45 really? am I that stupid? Mar 17 15:37:51 I really doubt that Mar 17 15:37:56 I don't comment things out, let me verify Mar 17 15:38:35 TAsn: welcome back (once again) :-D Mar 17 15:38:43 DocScrutinizer, thanks :P Mar 17 15:38:50 mrmoku, I think what dos did is wrong, let me see... Mar 17 15:39:05 or maybe not Mar 17 15:39:06 bah. Mar 17 15:39:07 sec Mar 17 15:39:32 well it fixed stuff :) Mar 17 15:39:48 and before definitely contacts had _no_ fields Mar 17 15:39:59 mrmoku: what about this? mrmoku: can you plz also fix the contact-list? There's a problem. If contact has no name, but only surname or nick it is displayed as (unknown) and the second problem is that contacts are sorted only by name, but they should then also be sorted by nick and then by surname. or else there's a mess in a list. Mar 17 15:40:24 mrmoku, yeah, it should be fine, I wonder what went wrong then Mar 17 15:40:43 (I mean, why did I comment it out) Mar 17 15:42:05 ok, looks ok ;P Mar 17 15:42:19 TAsn: and I did fix two things in libphone-ui-shr Mar 17 15:42:42 what did you fix? Mar 17 15:42:45 a) give new contacts a default of Phone/Number as that's the normal case and is less tapping Mar 17 15:43:04 mrmoku, a) and everything works with my overhaul? :P Mar 17 15:43:04 b) when saving and a field was still in edit mode it got not saved Mar 17 15:43:11 mrmoku, how did you fix that? Mar 17 15:43:13 the rest looks good :) Mar 17 15:43:18 TAsn: pull and look ;) Mar 17 15:43:39 oh, you did it in master Mar 17 15:43:45 sure :) Mar 17 15:43:47 (I looked in contacts branch) Mar 17 15:43:49 contacts is no more :D Mar 17 15:43:58 did you erase it? Mar 17 15:44:05 no Mar 17 15:44:45 mrmoku, b) great :P looks sane (what I have been missing) Mar 17 15:45:16 the bug with the entry not getting editable when one clicks the edit button for the active row is still there though :/ Mar 17 15:46:13 Q-Master: will take a look... that should work Mar 17 15:46:30 mrmoku: not yet. Mar 17 15:47:01 TAsn: ahh and I started to convert phonefsod to libfso-glib :D Mar 17 15:47:01 mrmoku, and I don't think that's me. Mar 17 15:47:09 mrmoku, any logs? Mar 17 15:47:15 mrmoku, about q-master's issue Mar 17 15:47:21 mrmoku, he is right, I also noticed that. Mar 17 15:47:28 just a small change in libphone-ui's logic. Mar 17 15:47:29 playya__: well... it just exits from the mainloop... and I don't get why Mar 17 15:47:41 mrmoku, (phonefsod) COOL! :P does it really work? Mar 17 15:47:48 TAsn: not yet :P Mar 17 15:48:02 I mean Mar 17 15:48:05 libfso-glib Mar 17 15:48:05 TAsn: playya__ did a nice example of how to use it Mar 17 15:48:07 and that works Mar 17 15:48:11 sweet :) Mar 17 15:48:15 playya__, thanks. Mar 17 15:48:15 so basically yes Mar 17 15:48:24 mrmoku, is it easy to use? Mar 17 15:49:07 TAsn: http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Tutorials/Using_FSO_glib_for_resource_handling Mar 17 15:49:15 TAsn: easy enough Mar 17 15:49:51 will take a look soon Mar 17 15:49:52 mrmoku, could you add breakpoints for dbus_g_connection_unref g_mainloop_unref and gmainlopp_quit? Mar 17 15:50:03 g_mainloop_quit of course Mar 17 15:50:12 playya__: ok, will try Mar 17 15:50:43 playya__: is libfso-glib threading safe? Mar 17 15:51:21 everything should run in one thread Mar 17 15:51:41 no need for multiple threads because of the async stuff Mar 17 15:54:00 hmm... breakpoints do not trigger Mar 17 15:54:24 and it exits normally? no error, critical? Mar 17 15:59:23 playya__: yeah nothing :/ Mar 17 16:02:30 DocScrutinizer, just a reminder, as soon as you send me some scripts i can start working with the interactive schematic Mar 17 16:03:10 JesusMcCloud: ouch. yes. Mar 17 16:03:12 sorry Mar 17 16:03:18 * DocScrutinizer hides Mar 17 16:03:59 JesusMcCloud: please don't stop kicking me until I finally move my lazy arse Mar 17 16:04:16 näh... i'm not mad, it is just that i dont want to start anythign unless i have at least a sample script, so i wont have to do double work in case i get it wrong... Mar 17 16:04:33 sure Mar 17 16:04:35 mrmoku, is it already possible to get your code? Mar 17 16:06:00 playya__: not yet, but can push soon Mar 17 16:10:57 mrmoku, do you use the ecore glib integration? Mar 17 16:12:32 playya__: not in phonefsod Mar 17 16:12:35 for phoneuid yes Mar 17 16:15:05 how can I initiate dbus autostart? (like fsousaged is started and fsogsmd too by default) Mar 17 16:15:40 JaMa: accessing a dbus method for it should suffice Mar 17 16:15:53 or do you mean implement an app that does that? Mar 17 16:16:12 no something from cmd line will be fine, thank Mar 17 16:16:13 s Mar 17 16:16:47 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd, works :) Mar 17 16:18:40 mickeyl: this commit http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=commit;h=804e98c4bde96d81b0a99c35a404b672e3ed7095, expects parent of modem object to be not null in var obj = parent as FreeSmartphone.GSM.Device; obj.device_status( externalStatus() ); which is not true when fsogsmd is launched from cmdline not from dbus and it fails with SEGFAULT Mar 17 16:20:22 mickeyl: for now I surrounded that device_status call with "if ( obj != null )" for working version, but then I'm not sure how you want to fix it properly (maybe is parent usefull also somewhere else and should be not null when started from cmd line) Mar 17 16:24:41 [Rui]: Hi, should be elmdentica recipe changed to use code from enlightenment subversion repo? Mar 17 16:25:07 <[Rui]> JaMa: yes. it currently has a bug or two, but it's better IMHO than the current value Mar 17 16:25:49 * [Rui] idles back to work. Mar 17 16:30:16 [Rui]: ok thanks Mar 17 16:32:57 <[Rui]> JaMa: I'm getting weird crashes, but I get them with e17's trunk in my desktop too, and here gdb and valgrind point towards EFLibraries Mar 17 16:33:15 <[Rui]> it seems bubbles are broken again Mar 17 16:33:45 <[Rui]> And anchorblocks at the begginning of a bubble don't work either Mar 17 16:34:22 hi all. I'd like to remind everyone that the deadline for proposing GUADEC talks is March 20. http://2010.guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/cfp How about a SHR presentation? Mar 17 16:35:03 <[Rui]> and I just found out that William Gibson has a twitter account and my follow options seems to have broken as well, but I can't check it out now... Mar 17 16:35:17 JaMa: excellent analysis, thanks, will fix later today Mar 17 16:36:12 other proposals (meetups etc) are welcome too. Mar 17 16:41:23 reinouts: i think SHR doesn't fit there very well H:1 would fit better Mar 17 16:42:19 H:1? /me may be behind Mar 17 16:42:46 ah, found it Mar 17 16:43:17 reinouts: they are using gnome moblie, as far as i remeber Mar 17 16:43:17 Well SHR hackers would be welcome anyhow :) Mar 17 16:46:51 SHR patchwork almost clean, can someone check that French keyboard improvement? Mar 17 16:47:05 * JaMa off Mar 17 16:49:37 That patch should be checked be french guy. Mar 17 16:50:15 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * rce14b6a19a70 10/zhone2/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am src/main.vala): zhone2: require vala 0.7.10.5 as per the new framebuffer bindings in linux.vapi Mar 17 16:58:43 JaMa: sorry for the bad recipe of NeoLight, I sent an updated/fixed version. Mar 17 17:03:06 dos11: someone should remove opimd stuff from shr-settings Mar 17 17:04:07 freesmartphone.org: 03Martin.Jansa 07cornucopia * r5eda35b59b35 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/modem.vala: fsogsmd: don't send signals before parent has been set by dbus object Mar 17 17:13:05 heh Mar 17 17:13:07 1973-12-27T18:44:46.655090Z [INFO] zhone2 : Framebuffer reports 45 * 67 pixels Mar 17 17:13:18 *sigh* Mar 17 17:13:23 s/width/xres/ Mar 17 17:13:24 cool :-P Mar 17 17:13:37 width is millimeter ;) Mar 17 17:14:32 mickeyl: you seen last few posts in #openmoko? Mar 17 17:14:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r1fef7220c2f2 10/zhone2/src/main.vala: zhone2: use resolution in pixels, not size in millimeters ;) Mar 17 17:15:29 yeah, RTC is not touched at all yet Mar 17 17:15:38 k Mar 17 17:16:08 still I wonder how ACK timeout for inbound SMS is handled and recovered Mar 17 17:16:09 the SMS problem sounds rather like upper layer Mar 17 17:17:12 i will know in a few days Mar 17 17:17:23 now that i finally write on FSO-clients again Mar 17 17:17:40 :-) Mar 17 17:18:12 i was too long away from that Mar 17 17:18:34 you lose the eye for client problems, if you work too long on the server side Mar 17 17:19:59 makes a nice quote for the chan topic :-P Mar 17 17:20:11 for everybody to read each day Mar 17 17:20:32 * DocScrutinizer stabs opimd Mar 17 17:21:49 hehe Mar 17 17:21:51 1973-12-27T20:10:33.908782Z [INFO] zhone2 : Framebuffer reports 320 * 480 pixels Mar 17 17:21:52 aaah Mar 17 17:21:55 that looks somewhat better Mar 17 17:22:05 mickeyl: on an unrelated topic: how do you like ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB ? Mar 17 17:22:13 -BB? Mar 17 17:22:36 ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB Mar 17 17:22:38 #openmoko-cdevel-bb is probably The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash bulletin board. (see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-help) - - - this bot keeps IRC chanlogs, see ~logs - - - livelogs at http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23openmoko-cdevel.livelog are dead :-( - - - extra extra! hackable:1 rev5 is out ! - - - Recommended URLs and channels: see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-03-16 19:18 UTC]: SHR buildhost is up again Mar 17 17:22:55 heh, cool Mar 17 17:27:25 mickeyl: any contact to coredump aka hentges? Mar 17 17:28:36 we're missing livelogs somewhat Mar 17 17:31:16 DocScrutinizer: no, not rally Mar 17 17:31:28 he used to come up every once and then in opie.de and OE Mar 17 17:33:44 I'd like to run a dedicated bot for livelogs, on a box I got for that purpose (among others). Reluctant to dig into bot business and manpages though Mar 17 17:34:01 why don't we just use tim rikers? Mar 17 17:34:11 ~logs Mar 17 17:34:12 All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily Mar 17 17:34:20 ah, daily Mar 17 17:34:21 well Mar 17 17:34:23 no livelogs though Mar 17 17:34:28 yep Mar 17 17:34:49 zhone2 on the dream: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/DSC00721.JPG Mar 17 17:35:00 very early steps... Mar 17 17:35:05 heh :-) Mar 17 17:35:12 * mickeyl hugs /dev/fb0 Mar 17 17:35:45 * Weiss hugs /dev/dri/card0 Mar 17 17:35:57 heh Mar 17 17:43:53 Weiss: how's WSOD business? :-D Mar 17 17:44:51 I've been away since Thursday night, so haven't done much since then.. still working on stabilising resolution changes Mar 17 17:45:51 anyway I'm quite happy my recommendations seem to basically cure the issue for good Mar 17 17:47:32 what's the best introduction into edc format these days? Mar 17 17:47:37 i'm afraid i need to touch one... Mar 17 17:48:06 eeeek Mar 17 17:48:18 raster to the rescue Mar 17 17:49:44 latest unstable is ok, right? Mar 17 17:49:59 it ever been? Mar 17 17:50:13 DocScrutinizer, it sometimes is. :P Mar 17 17:50:21 TAsn: flashed it today... yes Mar 17 17:50:32 cool :) Mar 17 17:50:35 anyway... bbiab Mar 17 17:50:36 safe to upgrade I assume? Mar 17 17:50:38 mrmoku, ciao. Mar 17 17:51:52 mickeyl, http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Edje ? Mar 17 17:54:39 JesusMcCloud: thanks, however I'd rather see something like an updated version of http://www.cuddletech.com/edje/docs/html/edje_book.html Mar 17 17:54:59 pity, that's from 2003 Mar 17 17:55:42 mickeyl, well you know the big old house people go into on sundays...? you might be able to drop a request the the guy in charge there... Mar 17 17:56:57 JaMa, ping Mar 17 17:57:31 JesusMcCloud: hmm, ya, docs and EFL doesn't mix in general, i know Mar 17 17:58:34 mickeyl, dos might be able to help you out (or if it is sth simple i might be able to help you) Mar 17 17:59:53 i want to introduce a top panel in the zhone.edc Mar 17 18:00:03 back in the old days before using illume we had that Mar 17 18:00:28 i could use the version in git, but the structure of the .edc changed a lot Mar 17 18:00:37 so i'm kind of lost about where/how to start Mar 17 18:01:03 mickeyl, elementary has a panel (slinng in an out) built in Mar 17 18:01:13 plain edje here Mar 17 18:01:52 the animation and event detection is in the edc Mar 17 18:02:01 ah, you mean i could look there Mar 17 18:02:20 i don't need animation though Mar 17 18:02:50 just an idea how to put different icons (for signal strength, battery status) etc. up there and shift the remaining stuff a bit downwards Mar 17 18:03:37 how do you switch between two icons e.g.? Mar 17 18:03:46 using states Mar 17 18:04:10 ok, so i define 1 state for every signal strength image Mar 17 18:04:16 yup Mar 17 18:04:45 and every state makes all but one image visible? Mar 17 18:04:51 i.e. hides the others Mar 17 18:05:31 only things defined in the current state are shown Mar 17 18:05:36 ah Mar 17 18:06:53 you could use a default state which hold positioning, and sdsplays for example the image for "no signal" then you use other states that inherit the defautl state, sou you'll only have to set the current image there Mar 17 18:07:12 sounds good Mar 17 18:07:22 ok, i'll give that a go Mar 17 18:07:23 thanks Mar 17 18:07:26 nP Mar 17 18:08:08 as for panel (if you want show/hide feature) the easiest way woudl be: Mar 17 18:09:22 make it a rectangle with 2 states, first one has an offet set outside the screen or sth liek that so it is partly hidden, second sstate has offset 0 so everythign is shown Mar 17 18:09:47 as for widgets: Mar 17 18:11:33 lets say ti is liek that: (from left to right) wifi, gprs, gsm, battery... make the battery relative to the panels bottom right corner, then make gsm relative to the battery widget and so on Mar 17 18:11:50 k Mar 17 18:13:12 that way you can easily hide inactive gadgets if you want and all the other stuff is re-aligned so you dont have ampty spots... Mar 17 18:13:20 s/ampty/empty Mar 17 18:13:39 I just updated shr-t, but seem unable to edit my contacts Mar 17 18:13:50 when I click on the pencil-and-line button it turns into a trashcan Mar 17 18:13:53 but I can't edit the field\ Mar 17 18:14:35 clicking on the text in the field doesn't bring a cursor, opening the keyboard and starting to type doesn't do anything, either :( Mar 17 18:15:17 hmm, clicking on the type selector, then cancel, then on the text again brings a cursor and automatically the keyboard Mar 17 18:22:21 ~logs Mar 17 18:22:23 All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily Mar 17 18:24:55 hi! I would like to compile my program with bitbake but without update all the dependencies, is it possible? Mar 17 18:26:22 then don't update the recipes Mar 17 18:30:08 Heinervdm if I do bitbake my_program and my program depends from Elementary, the bitbake system will try to update it, right? can I avoid this? Mar 17 18:32:01 zeusone: it will only update elementary if there is a newer version Mar 17 18:32:51 Heinervdm yes but I don't want this Mar 17 18:33:12 zeusone: then you shouldn't update your recipes ;) Mar 17 18:33:29 zeusone: but you can also try to build your recipe with -b option Mar 17 18:33:45 and then the relative path to your recipe Mar 17 18:33:51 blindcoder: i haven't been able to add any contact yet... Mar 17 18:33:58 Heinervdm ooohh thanks I will try with -b Mar 17 18:35:04 vanous123: no? Mar 17 18:36:49 no Mar 17 18:36:54 i have all fields now Mar 17 18:37:10 but no matter what i try, it just closes on my all the time Mar 17 18:37:21 s/my/me/ Mar 17 18:37:21 vanous123 meant: but no matter what i try, it just closes on me all the time Mar 17 18:37:59 i have tried different patterns, i do get keyboard, try different fields... Mar 17 18:38:40 vanous123: hmm :/ Mar 17 18:38:57 vanous123: do you have phoneuid on DEBUG? Mar 17 18:40:14 don't think so, will do it now Mar 17 18:40:25 good :) Mar 17 18:42:42 hm.. where's that page about disassembling the neo? Mar 17 18:43:45 TAsn: in wiki Mar 17 18:43:55 ... Mar 17 18:44:24 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973 Mar 17 18:44:44 thankn Mar 17 18:53:43 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r5179e7d44263 10/zhone2/ (data/themes/toby/zhone.edc src/main.vala): zhone2: start w/ bringing back a proper top panel Mar 17 18:53:54 I hate tw68 videocapturing chips... Mar 17 19:03:01 JesusMcCloud: do you have an idea how to make some loading indicator with edje/elementary? Mar 17 19:03:17 Heinervdm, there is a progressbar widget Mar 17 19:04:48 or if you want a custom thingie, its is just either 2 layers of images or 3 layers of rects Mar 17 19:05:45 JesusMcCloud: i thougt about sth. like a spinning wheel and making the whole screen a bit darker Mar 17 19:06:10 wow, I'm such an idiot :P Mar 17 19:06:17 animated gif with alpha? Mar 17 19:06:23 I've been using a very BAD screen protector for a long time now Mar 17 19:06:52 and now, I finally switched to a normal one Mar 17 19:06:58 and damn' it's way better. Mar 17 19:07:18 I can actually see the screen normally now :P Mar 17 19:07:25 LOL Mar 17 19:07:41 DocScrutinizer: animated gif for the wheel should be ok, but the background shouldn't be pixmap to make it more resolution independent Mar 17 19:07:42 actually, I would even say, the screen is sharp now :P Mar 17 19:07:55 Heinervdm, DocScrutinizer, use a couple of images and a couple of states in your edc (for exable yo can look at the default edc for elementary an search for pngs calles busy-[i forgot].png then you will have the spinnign wheel part and can copy it 1:1 or just use it if it is a seperate widget...) Mar 17 19:08:58 JesusMcCloud: thx, i will have a look at it Mar 17 19:09:00 Heinervdm, and for the backgroudn, jsut use a simple RECT primitive with color: 0 0 0 63; or sth liek that Mar 17 19:09:29 Heinervdm, look at hoversel, there you have an example implementation of darkenign background Mar 17 19:10:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * rcf623c8a02b9 10/zhone2/data/themes/ (74 files in 4 dirs): zhone2: create seperate image and fonts directories Mar 17 19:10:48 TAsn: what did you use before? transparent scotch? Mar 17 19:11:04 Heinervdm thanks! It works Mar 17 19:12:00 mrmoku: probably the factory screen protective adhesive Mar 17 19:12:15 hehe, yeah Mar 17 19:12:26 zeusone: but be aware that this will really just build that recipe and nothing else. So if you add additional depencies they aren't build Mar 17 19:12:52 Heinervdm yes I know that it's fine for me :) Mar 17 19:13:08 Heinervdm I'm on the shr-stable :) Mar 17 19:13:48 but invisibleshield laos kinda sucks... it seems to be a dirt-magnet... i pulled mine off after a few months and it seemed like it assimilated all my heandsewet and cloth fuzz from my pockets (and no i did not use it the wrong way around...) Mar 17 19:14:08 shr-STABLE?? o.O Mar 17 19:14:28 ya :D Mar 17 19:14:45 With the current dev's there will never be a shr-stable ;) Mar 17 19:14:56 mrmoku, actually, I used the most expensive one they had Mar 17 19:15:00 because all of them want to break it all the time Mar 17 19:15:04 playya__: ok, getting closer Mar 17 19:15:07 TAsn: ouch :/ Mar 17 19:15:16 because I was unhappy with a previous (cheap) one I had Mar 17 19:15:31 but it had this "rainbow" effect Mar 17 19:15:46 which made the screen ugly Mar 17 19:15:59 and didn't work very well Mar 17 19:16:02 bah, I hated it :P Mar 17 19:17:17 status widget (busy, stalled, running, etc.) <- it's on the elementary TODO ;) Mar 17 19:23:09 Heinervdm, ok well then copy the spinnign wheel from the elementary theme Mar 17 19:23:22 mrmoku: not much in there... http://pastebin.com/bQa8cbUQ Mar 17 19:23:30 it seems like it just reloads... Mar 17 19:23:45 JesusMcCloud: i'm looking at it, it's part of progressbar Mar 17 19:23:53 i thought so... Mar 17 19:24:34 mrmoku: here i tapped the edit icon on Phone field: 2010.03.17 19:21:23.377709 Mar 17 19:24:52 Contact query result gave 0 entries Mar 17 19:25:30 no items in my contact list Mar 17 19:25:35 cannot add... Mar 17 19:27:12 JesusMcCloud: elm/progressbar/horizontal/wheel can it be a seperate mode of progressbar? Mar 17 19:27:41 vanous123, mind explaining what issue you have? (I can see there's a seg, but I don't know the whole story) Mar 17 19:27:43 sec.. lemme check the edj Mar 17 19:28:41 Heinervdm, looks like you can use the wheel without progressbar Mar 17 19:29:34 if you want i think i can deliver you some c code using the wheel Mar 17 19:29:46 (from elementary tests) Mar 17 19:29:53 fi you dont have it yourself Mar 17 19:30:04 JesusMcCloud: that would be nice, as i'm not so advanced with C and edc :) Mar 17 19:30:39 TAsn: cannot add a contact Mar 17 19:31:08 what do you get? doing what? and what versions of apps? Mar 17 19:32:08 go to Contacts->New->Add Field->Phone>Tap Edit icon->tap the field and kb pops up->edit then tap add field->Name->Tap Edit icon and crash, no app Mar 17 19:32:54 phoneui-apps-contacts - 0.0.0+gitr7+d349e764400d7a4eaaa12f359d6c64b3ca55faaf-r1.4 Mar 17 19:33:12 Heinervdm, here ya go, with hiligthted lines (i didnt want to rip it oput of context) http://pastebin.org/116502 Mar 17 19:33:54 JesusMcCloud: thx Mar 17 19:34:25 * JesusMcCloud really needs to get own c code runnign on the neo... Mar 17 19:34:43 ...not that it would be good code... Mar 17 19:34:45 TAsn: latest version that comes via opkg Mar 17 19:35:46 vanous123, can confirm :P Mar 17 19:35:52 please open a bug an assign to me Mar 17 19:35:57 I'll take a look tomorrow or something Mar 17 19:36:01 (still tired from the flight) Mar 17 19:36:23 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r6240062acb5f 10/zhone2/data/themes/toby/ (35 files in 2 dirs): zhone2: add battery and rssi images Mar 17 19:36:34 bbl Mar 17 19:37:32 TAsn: how do you add a contact? Mar 17 19:37:50 vanous123, dunno, it just worked up until now Mar 17 19:37:56 I guess there's some kind of regression Mar 17 19:37:59 i see Mar 17 19:38:01 never worked here Mar 17 19:39:01 vanous123, weird, will take a look tomorrow :P Mar 17 19:39:03 ciao Mar 17 19:41:04 who is TAsn in trac? Mar 17 19:41:23 I am. Mar 17 19:41:24 is eee Mar 17 19:41:28 :) Mar 17 19:41:39 it has a magic autofill :) Mar 17 19:44:05 shut, it jumped into shr-mesages when i chosen phoneui... nvm i hope Mar 17 19:45:21 playya__: ping Mar 17 19:45:46 playya__: if i get a proxy for /org/freesmartphone/Device/Display/0 it exits Mar 17 19:47:14 playya__: and I don't get signals :/ Mar 17 19:48:27 mrmoku: do you have an idea how i can add an additional layer with an half transperent background and a widghet in the middle on top of the phoneui apps? Mar 17 19:49:42 Heinervdm, the quick-settings use darkening feature you are lookign for Mar 17 19:49:58 ah Mar 17 19:50:18 if oyu open up quick-settings it is darkened untill you klick it Mar 17 19:50:35 JesusMcCloud: that is phonefsod dimming :P Mar 17 19:50:41 oh Mar 17 19:50:51 Heinervdm: permanently? Mar 17 19:50:53 mrmoku, no Mar 17 19:50:59 no? Mar 17 19:51:05 mrmoku, JesusMcCloud: It's a bug I couldn't resolve in hoversels :P Mar 17 19:51:13 (quick-settings being dark until you click it) Mar 17 19:51:15 oh Mar 17 19:51:17 mrmoku: i want to make a loding indicator Mar 17 19:51:27 ahh :) Mar 17 19:51:30 Heinervdm, that should be easy Mar 17 19:51:44 Heinervdm, as someone ( JesusMcCloud ? ) suggested earlier Mar 17 19:51:50 just rip the illume theme Mar 17 19:52:37 Heinervdm, the whole animation is done in theme Mar 17 19:52:42 so it's fairly easy Mar 17 19:53:00 all you'll need to do is embed the edje widget you rip from illume Mar 17 19:53:27 hmm, i have no idea how to do it ;) Mar 17 19:54:14 i haven't found that thing in the default.edc Mar 17 19:54:29 it is elementary theme Mar 17 19:54:30 sec, will give you line numbers Mar 17 19:54:48 Heinervdm, actually, easier, as JesusMcCloud suggestetd Mar 17 19:55:19 just grep from the .png's that make the wheel Mar 17 19:55:37 TAsn: wheel is no problem Mar 17 19:55:44 then? Mar 17 19:56:01 Heinervdm, I have an idea, let's start from the beginning Mar 17 19:56:15 what do you need? Mar 17 19:56:23 need/want to do? Mar 17 19:56:30 adding an additional layer, give it a half transparent background and add a widgit in the middle Mar 17 19:56:41 to what? Mar 17 19:57:11 Heinervdm, you need your own widget just for darkeinging at this si only available in combination with for example hoversel Mar 17 19:57:23 My SIM Manager needs really long to load everything from sim (4-5 sec) Mar 17 19:57:32 Heinervdm, OK Mar 17 19:57:35 Heinervdm, so it's easy Mar 17 19:57:36 For that time i want to have a loding indicator Mar 17 19:57:43 Heinervdm, working with edje? Mar 17 19:57:53 yes Mar 17 19:57:55 what I would do: Mar 17 19:58:01 add another layer Mar 17 19:58:02 RECT Mar 17 19:58:09 with color: Mar 17 19:58:15 0 0 0 150; Mar 17 19:58:21 (rgb alpha) Mar 17 19:58:43 and just show it when you load Mar 17 19:58:46 and hide it otherwise Mar 17 19:59:06 i.e make a visible state, and an hidden state Mar 17 19:59:09 and just emit signals Mar 17 19:59:12 TAsn, i dont think that is the question (ir already is in backscroll) Mar 17 19:59:27 or i am loosing track fo reality... Mar 17 19:59:30 :) Mar 17 19:59:46 wäh! my brain is slushy all over again... Mar 17 19:59:49 i think that should be possible Mar 17 20:00:13 Heinervdm, that's fairly easy Mar 17 20:00:35 Heinervdm, and for the backgroudn, jsut use a simple RECT primitive with color: 0 0 0 63; or sth liek that Mar 17 20:00:45 ^ ha , not loosign track of reality Mar 17 20:01:01 JesusMcCloud: yes :) Mar 17 20:01:28 tha is comforting, since i am not su sure what is in the tee i got from the tee shop... Mar 17 20:01:29 but i thought that i can't add a widget to that Mar 17 20:02:06 Heinervdm, you don't add a widget "to that" Mar 17 20:02:13 but instead you add another swallow layer on top of it. Mar 17 20:02:18 Heinervdm, btw, sim manager: good idea. Mar 17 20:03:10 http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-ui-shr.git;a=blob;f=data/sim-manager.edc;hb=sim-manager Mar 17 20:03:16 that's my .edc Mar 17 20:03:37 first part is for the layout, i think i have to add that RECT there? Mar 17 20:04:38 yup Mar 17 20:08:00 Heinervdm, as a newcomer to elementary and c, how long did it take you to get to the point where you are right now? Mar 17 20:09:08 JesusMcCloud: don't know Mar 17 20:09:10 WAAAAAAAHGR! afert upgrade all my contacts and messages are gon! Mar 17 20:09:19 as i'm not a newcommer to elementary Mar 17 20:09:29 ah ok Mar 17 20:10:19 i've already done some things with elementary Mar 17 20:10:29 and even small c parts Mar 17 20:11:56 All: hello have a problem building shr-unstable image: git-remote-http: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0 Mar 17 20:14:17 TAsn, any idea on disapperaing messages and contacts on upgrade? Mar 17 20:14:26 no idea Mar 17 20:14:39 JesusMcCloud: when did you upgrade the last time? Mar 17 20:14:59 hmmm dunno 3 hours ago, but yould've been earlier Mar 17 20:15:30 and before that contacts were there? Mar 17 20:15:37 yup Mar 17 20:15:50 or is it the contacts on sim problem? Mar 17 20:15:52 i just noticed, beacause i just got an sms and sms app was empty... Mar 17 20:16:30 but there were no updates today at all due to buildhost issues, or? Mar 17 20:16:48 Heinervdm, no i've benn using the new opimd for a while now Mar 17 20:17:04 ok, then no idea Mar 17 20:17:13 JesusMcCloud, mind checking with opimd-utils-cli? Mar 17 20:17:22 Heinervdm: "make image" ends with the following: git-remote-http: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0 Mar 17 20:17:23 TAsn, rebooting now Mar 17 20:17:31 JesusMcCloud, good enough. Mar 17 20:17:42 (the third time...) Mar 17 20:17:47 Heinervdm: do you have any idea ? Mar 17 20:17:53 TAsn, vanous123: hmm... I can verify that with the image from buildhost too... but I don't have that with my local build Mar 17 20:17:54 JesusMcCloud, you reboot too much. Mar 17 20:17:56 nschle85: that looks strange Mar 17 20:18:15 mrmoku, different lfg? Mar 17 20:18:25 TAsn, well i reboot when things are broken after upgrade Mar 17 20:18:29 I mean, something changed in lfg? Mar 17 20:18:33 TAsn: or crappy image Mar 17 20:18:33 JesusMcCloud, :P Mar 17 20:18:38 nschle85: try bitbake -c clean git-native; bitbake git-native Mar 17 20:18:40 mrmoku, possibly Mar 17 20:18:44 we had problems with the buildhost again Mar 17 20:18:48 TAsn: opimd-utils-cli provides opimd-cli ? Mar 17 20:18:54 yes Mar 17 20:19:03 Heinervdm: thanks Mar 17 20:19:34 TAsn: 1:0.0.1+gitr1+1b4c0e21a6fec2c1952deb2bfeb2d85b924c3c36-r0.4 Mar 17 20:19:37 no local build Mar 17 20:21:18 TAsn, opimd is not running... Mar 17 20:21:28 JesusMcCloud, that could do it. Mar 17 20:21:42 dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetDefaultBackend" with signature "s" on interface "org.freesmartphone.PIM.Sources" doesn't exist Mar 17 20:21:44 that IS doing it atm Mar 17 20:21:55 vanous123: no backends no more Mar 17 20:22:00 vanous123: is that from settings? Mar 17 20:22:05 vanous123, oh yeah, stupid opimd-utils Mar 17 20:22:10 AHH Mar 17 20:22:12 this comes from opmid-cli Mar 17 20:22:14 dos11, please fix opimd-utils to drop backendes :P Mar 17 20:22:32 vanous123, remove the lines with GetDefaultBackend Mar 17 20:22:41 from opimd-cli Mar 17 20:23:29 Heinervdm: bitbake now cannot parse the bb files beacause git fails :-( Mar 17 20:23:58 so how do i then define where to add, edit etc? Mar 17 20:24:04 TAsn, opimd-cli work, checking phoneui log now... Mar 17 20:24:18 nschle85: try to clean git with -b option Mar 17 20:25:59 vanous123, not related, it's just a small issue with /usr/bin/opimd-cli Mar 17 20:27:25 anyhow, I'm off for the day Mar 17 20:27:40 JesusMcCloud, it should work, if it doesn't consider restarting phoneuid Mar 17 20:27:40 vanous123: contacts are stored in sqlite only... no more backends... so nothing to define :) Mar 17 20:27:47 ciao. Mar 17 20:27:48 night. Mar 17 20:27:53 leviathan, http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=d695f337bdaa0e297ad89c6fdd99edf97bc270db Mar 17 20:27:56 TAsn: night Mar 17 20:28:00 yeah, but the opimd-cli has it all over the place Mar 17 20:28:11 vanous123, no, only in the beginning Mar 17 20:28:12 because dos11 did not adjust it yet Mar 17 20:28:17 print "Adding item " + str(dict) + " using " + default_backend(domain+'s') + " backend..." Mar 17 20:28:24 exactly Mar 17 20:28:27 just remove this line Mar 17 20:28:30 and you'll be set Mar 17 20:28:33 ciao. Mar 17 20:28:37 * mrmoku installs his local built libphone-ui-shr in the buildhost image to see if that works Mar 17 20:28:37 * JesusMcCloud wants his messages and contacts back! Mar 17 20:29:33 had to remove a bit more Mar 17 20:29:40 but now it worked Mar 17 20:30:13 JesusMcCloud: what happened? I thought you were happy? Mar 17 20:30:26 mrmoku, i was till i upgraded Mar 17 20:30:32 ohh :/ Mar 17 20:30:39 (i know all about new opimd) Mar 17 20:31:45 i also cannot place calls from dailer... Mar 17 20:31:51 editing via -cli works, and contact app refreshes the view quite nicely Mar 17 20:32:27 and no error messages even with DEBUG Mar 17 20:33:01 ok, just found a refreshing issue - after contact is edited and viewed, then edited and viewed again, it shows the old version, upon new view (Show) it is correct Mar 17 20:34:07 * JesusMcCloud is switching to his spare phone as it is *very* bad timing for a broken phone Mar 17 20:34:17 edited via -cli i mean, cannot save via gui Mar 17 20:34:35 ok... that works Mar 17 20:34:54 * mrmoku wonders if he should just try to build them on the buildhost :) Mar 17 20:35:38 how can i change the state of the theme? Mar 17 20:36:01 Heinervdm, ? Mar 17 20:36:20 JesusMcCloud: now i have a default and a loading state Mar 17 20:36:30 so how can i activate the loading state? Mar 17 20:38:35 i was able to save contact via the messages screen-> Add contact, but couldn't name it... Mar 17 20:38:35 hmpf... i dont to elm programming... i know how to do in in plain edje... Mar 17 20:39:46 Heinervdm: thank you, now the image continuous compiling Mar 17 20:41:44 Heinervdm: I configured a buildserver to make continuous builds, hope this will help finding problems a bit faster Mar 17 20:43:56 nschle85: builds will usally fail from time to time, because from time to time one has to clean some packages Mar 17 20:44:23 crap! the sms is not on sim anymore Mar 17 20:45:17 ~lart opkg Mar 17 20:45:18 * apt explains, ever so gently, that if opkg doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help Mar 17 20:45:19 mrmoku: do you know how i can switch the from one state of the edc to another Mar 17 20:45:36 Heinervdm: thats true, but most developers make not a clean build, so errors after a clean build can be detected faster Mar 17 20:46:23 Hi guys. Is it relevant to switch to ubi image? some improvement? and without bugs? Mar 17 20:49:08 Heinervdm: the server is public (readonly access) so the current status of the software can be observed here Mar 17 20:49:25 nschle85: :) Mar 17 20:49:50 Heinervdm: you can send a signal to the edje Mar 17 20:50:01 Heinervdm: take a look at contact-view.c Mar 17 20:50:06 nobody hav some feedback about ubi image? Mar 17 20:50:07 mrmoku: ok, and how? ;) Mar 17 20:50:39 edje_object_signal_emit( Mar 17 20:50:39 elm_layout_edje_get(view->pager_layout), Mar 17 20:50:39 "elm,state,dirty", ""); Mar 17 20:51:12 Heinervdm: edje_object_signal_emit Mar 17 20:53:13 WAAAAAAH sms in pim.db is borked and it is not on sim Mar 17 21:07:57 * vanous123 is observin' all the new phoneui screens via mdbus :) Mar 17 21:08:13 cool Mar 17 21:09:27 i would love to have one more button on incoming call screen Mar 17 21:09:52 Send a message, Ideally linked to a draft message Mar 17 21:10:09 With customizable text like "will call later"... Mar 17 21:23:20 Unknown SIM error: Antenna powered off or SIM not unlocked yet, 100 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 32 Mar 17 21:24:12 wasn't there some ugly rant sometimes about why it's "antenna" all the time and not "modem"? Mar 17 21:25:45 *sigh* Mar 17 21:25:46 NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 7738 parsed, 329 skipped, 2 masked. Mar 17 21:25:47 ERROR: Parsing errors found, exiting... Mar 17 21:28:39 SHR: 03zimmermann 07libphone-ui-shr * ra02ee0ee7fa4 10/ (data/sim-manager.edc src/view/sim-manager-view.c): sim-manager: add loading screen Mar 17 21:30:23 wow, even the Photo field is working :) and reloads and shows in the list Mar 17 21:31:56 Heinervdm, so you're finished with loading screen? Mar 17 21:32:13 JesusMcCloud: yes, but it does not work :D Mar 17 21:32:22 hmpf Mar 17 21:32:36 can i have a look at the current edc? Mar 17 21:32:56 http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-ui-shr.git;a=commitdiff;h=a02ee0ee7fa406b3d22f88bd58b10ed682baae4c Mar 17 21:37:17 vanous123: don't run away... update is still building:-) Mar 17 21:37:30 Heinervdm, are you gettign any edje errors on cmdline? Mar 17 21:38:14 JesusMcCloud: nothing in the log, i don't thing i can see cmdline somehow Mar 17 21:38:24 as i have to launche that via dbus Mar 17 21:38:42 mrmoku: :) Mar 17 21:39:20 night all Mar 17 21:39:29 spaetz: good night Mar 17 21:40:39 mrmoku: can you have a look at that line? http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-ui-shr.git;a=blob;f=src/view/sim-manager-view.c;hb=a02ee0ee7fa406b3d22f88bd58b10ed682baae4c#l53 Mar 17 21:44:15 Heinervdm: use ui_utils_view_layout_get(VIEW_PTR(view)) instead Mar 17 21:44:31 won't fix it but is nicer :P Mar 17 21:46:00 mrmoku: is that Elm_Object my complete layout? Mar 17 21:46:22 and what are the parameters of edje_object_signal_emit Mar 17 21:46:27 Heinervdm: ahh, the part in .edc is missing Mar 17 21:46:58 Heinervdm: take a look at the programs in the contacts.edc Mar 17 21:47:45 Heinervdm: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-ui-shr.git;a=blob;f=data/contacts.edc;h=e77131afc05303ab09f46788320ce1bc96cef878;hb=sim-manager#l499 Mar 17 21:48:17 Heinervdm: you need a program with: Mar 17 21:48:22 signal: "loading" Mar 17 21:48:27 source: "" Mar 17 21:48:42 action: SET_STATE "loading" 0.0 Mar 17 21:48:46 target: your part Mar 17 21:48:59 and another one for the "default" signal Mar 17 21:49:27 mrmoku: so i need a start_loading and a stop_loading? Mar 17 21:51:03 * JesusMcCloud <- noob Mar 17 21:51:13 my brain is getting slushy again... Mar 17 21:51:27 Heinervdm: however you call them :) Mar 17 21:52:04 suggestion: adding the loading screen to every phoneui-app Mar 17 21:52:30 * lindi- got gps power saving fixnow(tm) mode finally to work :) Mar 17 21:52:30 espacially to mesages, as there's no threading Mar 17 21:56:12 hmm, it doesn't work the way i want it Mar 17 21:56:58 bad async calls... Mar 17 21:58:20 SHR: 03zimmermann 07libphone-ui-shr * r4a03660c9289 10/ (data/sim-manager.edc src/view/sim-manager-view.c): sim-manager: add programs for loading screen to make it work Mar 17 22:09:24 mrmoku, what's in the update thats building? Mar 17 22:12:46 JesusMcCloud: fixed libphone-ui-shr Mar 17 22:12:55 and some efl stuff Mar 17 22:13:06 define "fixed" Mar 17 22:13:31 JesusMcCloud: it should fix the problem vanous123 is having Mar 17 22:13:45 (reading log...) Mar 17 22:14:34 hmmm i wonder if this will give me back my contacts... but i am afraid not... Mar 17 22:14:37 vanous123: update is in the feed... testing it now Mar 17 22:14:54 :) Mar 17 22:15:09 hmm, adding an item to genlist needs a lot of time Mar 17 22:16:15 Heinervdm: should not though... Mar 17 22:16:35 mrmoku: my loading screen is stoped before first item is shown Mar 17 22:17:00 i stop the loading screen when getting the last item from sim Mar 17 22:18:21 vanous123: looks good :) Mar 17 22:18:40 mrmoku: got it too Mar 17 22:19:01 phoneuid restart or better to reboot? Mar 17 22:19:24 vanous123: I restarted X... but as there is udev in the update... maybe reboot dunno Mar 17 22:19:36 JesusMcCloud: so... what happened to your contacts? Mar 17 22:19:46 you upgraded... and then they were gone? Mar 17 22:20:43 mrmoku, my pid.db is still intact, opimd-cli work (to a certain point when it reposts that "servie opim doenst exist" or something) it seems liek it is a frameworkd issue... Mar 17 22:21:49 JesusMcCloud: then upgrading won't help :/ Mar 17 22:22:09 i'll pastebin the oputput of opimd-cli Mar 17 22:22:36 beacue the logs dont tell my anything Mar 17 22:23:49 mrmoku, http://pastebin.org/116608 Mar 17 22:24:35 (as you can see it is not only contacts but everything opim related) Mar 17 22:25:08 JesusMcCloud: does mdbus2 -s show opimd? Mar 17 22:25:37 yup Mar 17 22:25:47 but i just restared frameworkd Mar 17 22:26:15 SUPER Mar 17 22:26:20 all is working so far Mar 17 22:26:24 :) Mar 17 22:26:37 i am hitting the no keyb bug, but adding another field solves it Mar 17 22:26:53 mrmoku: you know what i mean... Mar 17 22:26:53 mrmoku, but opimd-cli output is the same Mar 17 22:26:58 vanous123: yup Mar 17 22:27:03 k Mar 17 22:27:12 added pictures to my contacts Mar 17 22:27:18 beautiful :) Mar 17 22:27:19 JesusMcCloud: and after calling opimd-cli... is opimd still there? Mar 17 22:27:32 woooh no Mar 17 22:27:40 there is a big difference Mar 17 22:28:12 JesusMcCloud: guess frameworkd segfaulted then :P Mar 17 22:28:30 JesusMcCloud: bug the guy with T in his nick tomorrow ;) Mar 17 22:28:36 let me check the signal thingy Mar 17 22:28:40 mä Mar 17 22:29:04 will do (but why a i the only one with that problem) Mar 17 22:29:26 JesusMcCloud: probably something in your contacts opimd dislikes now :/ Mar 17 22:29:32 leviathan, http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=d695f337bdaa0e297ad89c6fdd99edf97bc270db Mar 17 22:29:49 JesusMcCloud: maybe a field which is not in the list of fields... dunno Mar 17 22:30:03 mrmoku, i did not edit my contacts Mar 17 22:30:05 what about the tel prefix? Mar 17 22:30:32 playya__: just write here what you find out... going to bed now :) Mar 17 22:30:41 ok Mar 17 22:30:55 I'M already at in bed Mar 17 22:30:58 playya__: and getting a proxy for Display/0 was what caused phonefsod to exit Mar 17 22:30:59 i blame opkg Mar 17 22:31:10 bad idea. fall asleep in front of the TV Mar 17 22:31:17 :) Mar 17 22:31:24 doing the same now :D Mar 17 22:31:24 mrhrhrhr Mar 17 22:31:26 gnight all Mar 17 22:31:31 good night Mar 17 22:32:19 mrmoku|away: gn and thank you Mar 17 22:46:42 one should install the new version before testing it... Mar 17 22:49:58 TAsn: pong Mar 17 22:50:28 JaMa: he went to sleep already... Mar 17 22:53:51 raster: i'm adding 250 items to a elm_genlist with elm_genlist_item_append in a for loop. and after the last call of elm_genlist_item_append i stop my loading indicator. But when running the program the loading indicator stops before first item is shown in genlist, do you have an idea why? Mar 17 22:55:12 well ffirst - that foor loop will execute quickly - or should, unless its doing heavy file/network io Mar 17 22:55:26 vanous123: no problem, he can see it tomorrow :) Mar 17 22:55:31 second, that QUEUES items to be added to the genlist. they a spooled off over time Mar 17 22:55:37 and I should go to bed now too Mar 17 22:55:50 JaMa: likewise here... Mar 17 22:55:58 ok Mar 17 22:55:59 gn Mar 17 22:56:05 (in the background) Mar 17 22:56:19 rememebr EFL doesnt draw anything as long as u are busy in your code Mar 17 22:56:38 if u are in a for loop - it never comes back to the main loop, never becomes idel so it can draw the updates state Mar 17 22:56:56 raster: ah, that's why. is there a way i get notified when an item is really shown? Mar 17 22:57:40 shown? in what way? Mar 17 22:57:46 u mean when its really added to genlist? Mar 17 22:57:52 or when u scroll to it? Mar 17 22:57:52 yes Mar 17 22:58:00 really added Mar 17 22:58:01 which? Mar 17 22:58:15 well genlist will call the item class callbacks Mar 17 22:58:30 first time they are calls is when its calculating that item sizing Mar 17 22:58:46 eg get the label or icon or whatever Mar 17 22:59:04 gn8 Mar 17 22:59:26 raster: ah, ok Mar 17 23:01:45 will have a look if i can do it with those callbacks, thx Mar 17 23:17:13 I doubt that will pan out Mar 17 23:19:22 obviously you should add the first, say, 20 items to the list, then do a usleep(100000) to let the rendering do it's job, then go on add the items to the lsit which are non-visible anyway unless you scroll down the list Mar 17 23:21:43 raster: any comments? Mar 17 23:23:46 Heinervdm: if it takes really long to add a single item to the list, then you probably want to insert the usleep() even after every single item, for the first 20 Mar 17 23:25:03 DocScrutinizer: yeah, i think that's better solution. Somehow the label_get callback isn't called. Don't know where it's getting the lable from :D Mar 17 23:25:05 aaaaaaaah! Mar 17 23:25:06 git-remote-http: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Mar 17 23:25:08 it will slow down the whole procedure, but as user is aware there's action it will make for a better perception Mar 17 23:25:28 I did remove every *expat* below tmp/stamps/ Mar 17 23:25:33 also every *git* Mar 17 23:25:44 why does it not rebuild them? Mar 17 23:26:02 DocScrutinizer: i think it will be usefull for contacts list where we have the bug, that it crashes when you use the index to soon Mar 17 23:26:39 so better wait a little longer (only first start) but it won't crash Mar 17 23:26:42 duh, fix the bug! Mar 17 23:27:02 just disable index until it actually may get called Mar 17 23:47:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r83d9a64e0d8d 10/zhone2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): zhone2: set provider string from org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Status Mar 18 00:17:29 <[Rui]> wow, there are about 700 revisions of difference between shr-u's efl and trunk Mar 18 00:33:27 DocScrutinizer: usleep? sleep? wtf? what are u smoking? Mar 18 00:34:29 no Mar 18 00:34:31 just add all items Mar 18 00:34:36 genlist has its own queue Mar 18 00:35:09 u add - they just get trhown onto the queue without further processing (just malloc an item, add to list - set its class and move on to next item) Mar 18 00:35:29 this queue is spooled off in idle time (while u are not busy handling other events, rendering etc.) Mar 18 00:35:43 so genlist handles the case where u add 10,000,000 items Mar 18 00:35:58 raster: so how would *you* suggest to make genlist render the first 20 items, before the app's for loop is finished with item #250? Mar 18 00:36:10 it'll stay usable/interactive and go add the 10million items ovver time Mar 18 00:36:22 the loop will happene REALLY fast Mar 18 00:36:24 as above Mar 18 00:36:59 (unless your code for getting the item is very slow - i am assuming you have all thats needed to be able to add an item in memory at the time and readily accessible) Mar 18 00:37:14 obviously not. As heinervdm said his progress bar doesn't act like he wants Mar 18 00:38:15 the progress bar instantly vanishes Mar 18 00:38:26 because the loop to add should happen instantly Mar 18 00:38:39 he never goes into idle for there to be any rendering until his loop is done Mar 18 00:38:44 and if a progress indicator during the for loop fails, I think my suggestion is a viable approach Mar 18 00:38:54 as i said - if hsi data is already there in memory - the loop should happeen in less than a few ms Mar 18 00:39:10 sleep/usleep is not viable Mar 18 00:39:10 ever Mar 18 00:39:13 eeeeeveeeeer Mar 18 00:39:18 your mainloop stops Mar 18 00:39:19 nothing happens Mar 18 00:39:21 nothing Mar 18 00:39:24 no rendering - nothing Mar 18 00:39:35 and I said [2010-03-18 00:23:46] Heinervdm: if it takes really long to add a single item to the list, Mar 18 00:39:49 irt doesnt take long to add an item Mar 18 00:40:02 bah Mar 18 00:40:04 the genlist item add is as instant as a malloc+set a few pointers Mar 18 00:40:14 the rest of the code is under his control Mar 18 00:40:18 from your POV Mar 18 00:40:34 correct Mar 18 00:40:38 the rest is his job Mar 18 00:40:53 I talked to heinervdm though, and from his POV adding an item includes providing/preparing the data Mar 18 00:40:57 if he's sending network requests to a machine on the other side of the world per item to get some value then add to genlist Mar 18 00:41:05 the problem is entirely in his court as being totally bad code Mar 18 00:41:08 (for example) Mar 18 00:41:19 well thats his job Mar 18 00:41:32 i dont know what it is he is getting his data from Mar 18 00:41:34 etc. etc. Mar 18 00:41:35 so what? go die somewhere else? Mar 18 00:42:02 so i cant tell u any more than "the elm side of thins is a done deal and handled properly. genlist was kntended to be able to handle millions of items without causing interactivity issues" Mar 18 00:42:53 i cant say any more unless i know what his providing/preparing involves Mar 18 00:42:55 i dont know Mar 18 00:43:04 and my suggestion was to give rendering a chance to render a full screen, before app continues to do busy whatever-foo Mar 18 00:43:06 so it's entirely in his ballcourt Mar 18 00:43:16 sleep will not give it a chance Mar 18 00:43:21 there is no tread or other process Mar 18 00:43:24 its the same code Mar 18 00:43:30 if u sleep - all u do is wait and do nothing Mar 18 00:43:33 that includes rendering Mar 18 00:43:39 ok, so we need some other means that sleep() Mar 18 00:43:49 that's all I wanted to know, thanks Mar 18 00:43:55 the other means is based on what his data is Mar 18 00:43:57 where it comes from Mar 18 00:44:02 and thus - its in his ballcourt Mar 18 00:44:20 if its a tcp socket conn - use ecore_con and do async so cket io Mar 18 00:44:26 handle the data events Mar 18 00:44:30 piece together yyour replies Mar 18 00:44:39 when u have enough - then add an item as tthe events come in Mar 18 00:44:52 if its dbus - u'll have dbus reply handler callbacks (in e_dbus) Mar 18 00:45:33 if its a file u are parsing.. why the hell is it so slow in parsing the file? can u improve that? make the file io async too (fd handlers, mmaped file io, forked child, thread.. dunno) Mar 18 00:45:34 i can go on Mar 18 00:45:56 but unless i know more - i'm just going to rabbit on about crap that may be enitrely useless Mar 18 00:45:56 [2010-03-17 18:18:33] you lose the eye for client problems, if you work too long on the server side Mar 18 00:45:58 [2010-03-17 18:19:58] makes a nice quote for the chan topic :-P Mar 18 00:45:59 [2010-03-17 18:20:10] for everybody to read each day Mar 18 00:46:53 anyway Mar 18 00:46:55 time to run Mar 18 00:47:00 planes to catch and shit! Mar 18 00:47:05 toodloo!!! :) Mar 18 00:51:55 * DocScrutinizer really wonders what's renderer's notion of 'idle' - I *really* hope it's not 'e is waiting for input in some generic e thingy, like button click' Mar 18 00:55:28 probably if it's a central wait in main loop, then either my idea in how a usleep() works (in oposite to udelay() ) is really wrong and we need to schedule a system alarm (SIGALARM) and then go to mainloop, to give renderer a chance to proceed, or... Mar 18 00:55:47 I dunno Mar 18 00:58:37 "if its a tcp socket conn - use ecore_con" makes me feel a little uncomfortable anyway Mar 18 00:59:22 as makes the "there is no tread or other process" bit Mar 18 01:03:35 no matter how it's implemented in the end, there always has to be a function "rerender_screen_NOW" to trigger exactly that. Mar 18 01:06:31 hmm, UPD-UPLOAD UBX command seems to allow me to read data from GPS chip memory Mar 18 02:03:23 lindi-: that's the idea aiui **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 18 02:59:56 2010