**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 02:59:57 2010 Mar 26 05:11:18 Good day all , how to make terminal layout default layout ? shr-t illume **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 13:06:14 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 13:09:37 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 13:12:15 2010 Mar 26 13:16:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * refbd57c36dac 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network: Document new values for GetStatus() / Status() Mar 26 13:23:09 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r32f6fa487fc3 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/phonebook.vala: fsogsmd: phonebook: handle Dir open errors Mar 26 13:23:10 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rccfa069f1f98 10/fsogsmd/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: prepare for modem-specific ways to cancel an outgoing call Mar 26 13:43:35 JaMa: sure :D Mar 26 13:44:42 mrmoku: will it work ?:) Mar 26 13:44:50 soltys: no idea ;) Mar 26 13:44:52 ;) Mar 26 13:44:53 heh Mar 26 13:44:58 that's what i call confidence Mar 26 13:45:01 can't wait ;) Mar 26 13:45:07 Orias_Korva: status_request Mar 26 13:45:16 mickey|austria: well... I have to be honest :P Mar 26 13:45:33 and I did not try the new kernel myself for quite some time Mar 26 13:45:49 so I actually really have no idea... *but* I'm confident :) Mar 26 13:46:01 PaulFertser: didn't try anything yet, injury getting better, may attempt to solder in a couple of days Mar 26 13:46:21 JaMa: that immediately includes fsogsmd, right? Mar 26 13:46:26 Orias_Korva: injury? Oh man, what happened? Mar 26 13:46:31 JaMa: because then I have to hurry up :) Mar 26 13:46:58 PaulFertser: I fscked up my right shoulder while swimming Mar 26 13:47:06 and I'm right handed Mar 26 13:47:49 Orias_Korva: first day in my lab since monday Mar 26 13:47:57 Orias_Korva: oh, unfortunate. Hope you get well soon. I'm pretty confident we now found the right and easy procedure. Mar 26 13:49:15 PaulFertser: it look simple and effective enough, I'll just wait for my shoulder to get better Mar 26 13:49:40 * Orias_Korva wonders why he referred to himself in previous post Mar 26 13:50:09 gnnh Mar 26 13:50:29 why do all kernel/rootfs combinations i try crash and burn? Mar 26 13:50:54 mrmoku: I'm leaving for weekend.. :) Mar 26 13:51:10 mrmoku: but I feel that every weekend is as good for switch as this one :) Mar 26 13:51:27 so i shall move fso2 to .32? Mar 26 13:51:52 mickey|austria: fso2 image? Mar 26 13:52:02 no, fso2 as project Mar 26 13:52:13 fsodeviced and fsogsmd in particular Mar 26 13:52:17 ah scenarios in fsodeviced and config in fsogsmd? Mar 26 13:52:20 yep Mar 26 13:52:30 mickey|austria: I vote big YES Mar 26 13:52:56 mickey|austria: if we're not able to switch this weekend, than we can wait with SRCREV bump for fso stuff Mar 26 13:53:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r0fb93bfd3685 10/zhone2/src/ (gsmagent.vala phonebookpage.vala): zhone2: catch up with SMS API changes Mar 26 13:53:34 ok, depending on other tasks i may or may not have some time on sunday to check the state of .32 Mar 26 13:53:39 lets see Mar 26 13:53:50 thanks Mar 26 13:54:07 np Mar 26 13:54:15 need to adjust gps power control as well IIRC Mar 26 13:54:53 yeah right.. we should provide some fso-gpsd alternative Mar 26 13:55:35 but with modified frameworkd.conf we can still use it (as we still need it for opimd..) Mar 26 13:57:00 yep Mar 26 13:57:25 it's going to be end of this year before we can ditch frameworkd Mar 26 13:58:15 than we can release shr-fast :) Mar 26 13:58:25 instead of shr-stable Mar 26 13:58:33 hehe Mar 26 13:58:34 right Mar 26 14:00:03 fwiw, zhone2 should make a good example on how to use EFL from Vala Mar 26 14:00:09 so I'd encourage all of you to take a look Mar 26 14:00:14 it's a great combination Mar 26 14:01:11 * JaMa leaving for primary school reunion :) Mar 26 14:01:51 heh, hf Mar 26 14:04:15 [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.29-rc3 (shr@opmbuild) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #1 PREEMPT Fri Mar 5 17:27:31 CE Mar 26 14:04:32 [21474537.910000] glamo3362 glamo3362.0: unsupported Glamo device 13fb Mar 26 14:05:19 but the bigger problem is that it doesnt like the rootfs... mmmh. Mar 26 14:13:55 roh: rootfs on SD? Mar 26 14:14:35 nope.. no sd in there Mar 26 14:31:54 hmm.. same problem Mar 26 14:32:02 oh Linux version 2.6.22.5-moko11 (roh@prometheus) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Thu Oct 25 10:20:05 CEST 2007 Mar 26 14:32:15 i guess this device has some other problem Mar 26 14:32:26 could be a really defect of glamo? Mar 26 14:32:51 roh: looks pretty old :) Mar 26 14:33:04 lindy i tried some 2.6.29 which did the same Mar 26 14:43:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r52b14810cf37 10/zhone2/src/ (phonebookpage.vala smsbookpage.vala): zhone2: don't allow clicking empty cells Mar 26 14:46:23 roh: btw, < lindi-> PaulFertser: can you remove other components than "system software" and rename it to "kernel"? Mar 26 14:46:30 roh: in bugs.openmoko.org Mar 26 14:46:39 roh: < lindi-> PaulFertser: people generally don't seem to find out that they should use "system software" Mar 26 14:52:41 wtf is a "system software", sounds like winblows jargon Mar 26 14:53:42 Orias_Korva: it's the category you need to use to report kernel bugs Mar 26 14:54:23 lindi- i think we had that for kernel, bootloader, drivers... stuff thats not userland Mar 26 14:56:23 roh: yep but no user understands it :) Mar 26 14:56:43 roh: i'm one of the few who report kernel bugs and almost always when i ask others to do it they don't know how Mar 26 14:56:57 i see Mar 26 14:57:28 renamed it kernel Mar 26 14:57:33 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r13b6c7fdc38c 10/src/ (Makefile.am freesmartphone-utils.vala): remove bogus file Mar 26 14:57:36 roh: thanks Mar 26 14:58:11 wanna have some perms also? Mar 26 14:58:18 in the bugtracker Mar 26 14:58:30 there's pretty much nothing userland-related these days that should go into this BT anyways Mar 26 15:00:35 roh: being able to retitle some reports might help Mar 26 15:01:00 mickey|austria: yep but users don't have clue on that hidden knowledge :) Mar 26 15:02:07 lindi- added you to community devels Mar 26 15:02:13 roh: I also have a local copy of all bug report and a custom search page for those: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py Mar 26 15:02:31 since I found trac's search way too limited Mar 26 15:03:32 uha... Mar 26 15:03:44 you know custom reports? Mar 26 15:04:11 eh querys... with the right perms one can save them Mar 26 15:04:27 roh: i know but i still found it difficult to use :) Mar 26 15:05:59 hm.. well.. thats a question of taste i guess... i find anything that asks for regex not 'normal' Mar 26 15:06:13 how does it work? i mean.. did you harvest the site for the data? Mar 26 15:07:20 * mrmoku is interested in how lindi- got the data out of the trac too :) Mar 26 15:08:22 roh: do you know if the good old OM buildhost is still alive? Mar 26 15:08:42 DocScrutinizer suspected it might be idling around somewhere :P Mar 26 15:09:13 its alive Mar 26 15:09:20 why? Mar 26 15:09:32 because our buildhost sucks :) Mar 26 15:09:36 because lots of vms moved to the box where it resides also Mar 26 15:09:42 mrmoku whos? Mar 26 15:09:45 SHR's Mar 26 15:10:11 roh: so it is not idling Mar 26 15:10:17 with logs of vms Mar 26 15:10:22 lotsw Mar 26 15:10:23 grr Mar 26 15:10:40 heh.. well.. ours has only 8g ram for 6 vms, including docs, buildhost and git Mar 26 15:10:57 i thought shr got sponsored a nice box? Mar 26 15:11:15 well... sponsored yes Mar 26 15:11:18 and we're thankfull Mar 26 15:11:22 but nice... Mar 26 15:11:26 unfortunatelly not Mar 26 15:11:43 this one is only a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 6000+ with 8g ram with openvz Mar 26 15:12:39 mrmoku https://monitor.openmoko.org/munin/ Mar 26 15:12:41 its agni Mar 26 15:12:45 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ Mar 26 15:12:58 MemTotal: 786648 kB Mar 26 15:14:21 model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ Mar 26 15:14:30 2gig ranm Mar 26 15:14:39 nice thing that monitor :) Mar 26 15:14:52 the last one is savitri Mar 26 15:14:56 nandi is gone i think Mar 26 15:15:10 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r5ee727f1f81b 10/zhone2/src/ (5 files): zhone2: cancel outgoing call Mar 26 15:15:12 dunno when savitri will be Mar 26 15:15:45 but if shr can spare some euros, i can recommend these hetzner-boxes.. quite a lot of power for not much money Mar 26 15:16:27 guess we would have to do some kind of official organization for this Mar 26 15:16:28 something like that http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/eq4/ Mar 26 15:16:52 yeah, nice :) Mar 26 15:16:55 at some point we will move the vms we have onto a new, faster box which costs the same again Mar 26 15:18:24 mrmoku official organization? heh.. dunno... for the 50bucks a month? Mar 26 15:19:02 hmm... good question Mar 26 15:20:39 mrmoku but hey.. yes.. if somebody founds some openmoko e.V. that could be usefull for other stuff as well.. gta02... moneylaundering^wmoving... stuff for the project which isnt easy as not company Mar 26 15:21:54 as for hosting.. i think openmoko inc stiill pays the bill, but we admins aren really paid at all anymore just do something sometime if we get notice that something doesnt what it should Mar 26 15:22:09 roh: yeah i had to do some scraping with python Mar 26 15:22:41 as light as possible. it remembers the latest report id and only tries to download latest_report_id + 1 on update Mar 26 15:22:43 lindi- heh.. if i would be motivated one could have just added the xmlrpc plugin for that Mar 26 15:24:22 roh: i wrote that years ago Mar 26 15:25:54 roh: ok, thanks for the info :) Mar 26 15:27:08 mrmoku if i knew how long we will continue to have the last box (savitri) i would think about emptying it now and you could use it, but its not that fast either Mar 26 15:28:42 roh: maybe I have an alternative from monday on... that would be connected via DSL only, but for a buildhost... who cares Mar 26 15:29:16 heeh Mar 26 15:29:38 mrmoku we had tbytes of traffic only by syncing the output of buildhost to downloads each month Mar 26 15:29:47 dont underestimate the amount of build-results Mar 26 15:30:33 hmm Mar 26 15:36:48 well.. whatever... i just hope we can continue to run the hosted stuff as we do now... but would be cool to have solid financing and atleast some hours paid... then i could put in some serious time again Mar 26 15:37:12 <- still has open unpaid hours one can hire ;) Mar 26 15:40:07 ~seen onen|openBmap Mar 26 15:40:10 onen|openbmap <~quassel@vbo91-1-89-87-201-85.dsl.club-internet.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 44d 20h 45m 9s ago, saying: 'leviathan: ping'. Mar 26 15:57:45 what happend to onen? still alive? Mar 26 16:54:12 * DocScrutinizer suggests mrmoku opens a paypal account where all the devels can drop 2 bucks a month, so the box should be paid by that Mar 26 16:54:45 * mrmoku wonders if we actually have 25 devels :P Mar 26 16:55:35 * Wonka wonders if paypal won't cut off that acc for bogus reasons, as happened to wikileaks and many others too Mar 26 16:55:36 I'd guess yes, if you add in all the app devels that might want to have access to buildhost Mar 26 16:56:30 well, make that 3bucks or 4 Mar 26 16:57:27 mrmoku: I'd guess you won'r feel happy with standard ADSL upstream bandwidth Mar 26 16:58:14 DocScrutinizer: for syncing only? ... possibly yes Mar 26 16:58:23 a decent box with a backbone and a fixed IP is a different thing Mar 26 16:58:33 sure Mar 26 16:59:01 actually I like that idea Mar 26 16:59:03 in germany you won't even gat any DSL with 24/7 Mar 26 16:59:30 DSL would be for syncing built stuff to somewhere only Mar 26 16:59:45 so all flames come down at you after a week of sync breakages due to forced disconnect Mar 26 17:00:38 i already thought about sharing my PC for devs with a slow pc/slow connection Mar 26 17:00:45 but not possible atm Mar 26 17:01:39 playya_: I probably would have a nice box on monday... problem is connectivity Mar 26 17:01:46 I got a VM at gismo/roh (/hetzner) but that one is definitely too wanky for a buildhost Mar 26 17:02:40 i have a X4 9950 4GB RAM but not the owner of the dsl connection Mar 26 17:02:56 forget ADSL Mar 26 17:03:09 and it's only a 2MBit DSL Mar 26 17:03:13 no matter if you're owner or not Mar 26 17:03:28 playya_: DOWNstream Mar 26 17:03:39 yes. up is even worse Mar 26 17:03:53 for a host you want decent UPstream Mar 26 17:04:19 so... Mar 26 17:04:23 forget ADSL Mar 26 17:04:38 my idea was to share it that people can help to add new recipe/update recipes Mar 26 17:05:02 also you got those nasty forced disconnects every 24h, at least here in Germany Mar 26 17:05:09 not to share the built packages Mar 26 17:05:44 yes. but it should be enough to upload some packages and a ssh connection Mar 26 17:06:42 somebody with balls and a good job should take a stand and pay for a 50bucks host at hetzner, and ask for refinancing from community Mar 26 17:07:29 odds are there might be even spare money to give to roh for admin Mar 26 17:08:27 hell, probably eveb SHR users might care to give a few bucks occasionally Mar 26 17:11:14 esp if you put a "meter" on the shr website -> "this month we'll switch off the buildhost on: Fr 13. - due to finanzing. 2bucks buy another day of development, paypal: shr-foobar" Mar 26 17:13:23 :P Mar 26 17:13:48 we should ask that on ML... what people do think about it Mar 26 17:13:56 sure Mar 26 17:13:56 now is dinner time though :) Mar 26 17:14:00 bbl Mar 26 17:14:06 enjoy Mar 26 17:15:54 anyway. we got 114 (- a few) users here, everybody welcome to comment ;-) Mar 26 17:43:51 DocScrutinizer, i think people would be more willing to pay/donate to the devs directly, since they are doing the work... i'm not sure if the recent off-times are a reason to panic, it was working ok most of the time Mar 26 18:08:16 114 * 2.... would suffice :P Mar 26 18:20:57 playya: any news regarding signals in libfso-glib? Mar 26 18:21:22 do you mean the source problem? Mar 26 18:21:52 i removed the proxy classes and added a get_proxy method Mar 26 18:22:12 now you are working on the interface directly Mar 26 18:22:22 the problem that signals don't arrive Mar 26 18:22:32 that should work Mar 26 18:22:46 but you have to change your code a little bit Mar 26 18:23:25 here's an updated example: http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Tutorials/Using_FSO_glib_for_resource_handling Mar 26 18:25:23 playya: ahh good Mar 26 18:30:52 playya: hmm... regarding signals nothing changed in the example, right? Mar 26 18:31:38 btw. why do your signal handlers return a gboolean? Mar 26 18:33:53 hi there Mar 26 18:35:30 someone interested in a job at stuttgart? C++ Teachings Mar 26 18:35:54 http://www.univativ.de/forum/php/projects.php?id=2009518&key=414899129c (german) Mar 26 18:36:25 playya, does it work? Mar 26 18:53:03 TAsn, yes Mar 26 18:53:23 mrmoku, afaik this is glib signals syntax Mar 26 18:53:35 or is it only for g_timeput add Mar 26 18:57:02 if you return true you don't get called again Mar 26 18:59:35 playya, what about whatever we get passed? Mar 26 18:59:41 lets say we call a method Mar 26 18:59:50 and get a string back Mar 26 18:59:54 (in the callback) Mar 26 19:00:07 should we free it, or is it freed when we return? Mar 26 19:00:21 ^ terribly important to know. Mar 26 19:00:44 playya, and in general, be available for more questions Mar 26 19:00:45 :P Mar 26 19:01:22 I don't like working without knowing what I'm working with. Mar 26 19:01:45 good questions. i'll check them later Mar 26 19:02:01 but at least the example doesn't leak memory Mar 26 19:02:03 This only leads to segs/race conditions/memory leaks Mar 26 19:02:13 brb. schnitzel brutzeln Mar 26 19:02:20 playya, if a string is passed Mar 26 19:02:25 and it doesn't leak Mar 26 19:02:34 this means it's freed automatically :P Mar 26 19:07:33 playya: I think it is g_timer_add syntax... to signal if you want to reschedule or not Mar 26 19:07:51 I saw other code with dbus signal handlers (using signal-connect) with void Mar 26 19:08:32 yes. (WARNING: not knowledge) i think it's freed on by the emitter because you can have multiple handlers and don't copy it every time Mar 26 19:08:56 that makes sense Mar 26 19:11:26 Hi, is somebody here, who can help with a problem related to gstreamer? Mar 26 19:16:56 ,metafragen? Mar 26 19:17:16 jgrnt, just ask :) Mar 26 19:20:06 i get a lot of "mad_frame_decode" errors, if i try to play some podcast episodes (initial fetched with podboy, but tried fetching on other ways -> same result) Mar 26 19:20:37 my command: GST_DEBUG=2 gst-launch -v filesrc location=filename.MP3 ! mad ! alsasink Mar 26 19:21:12 with mplayer it works(but i would like to use podboy+gstreamer) Mar 26 19:25:01 TAsn: ping Mar 26 19:49:39 hi Mar 26 19:50:30 is FR bootable with vanilla 2.6.30 kernel? Mar 26 19:52:27 i don't think someone tried Mar 26 19:58:30 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rd5295a351ac1 10/src/view/message-new-view.c: message-new-view: look for content in passed in options hashtable Mar 26 19:58:39 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rd265ee52cb0e 10/src/view/message-list-view.c: message-list-view: implement forward button Mar 26 20:05:02 mrmoku, pong. Mar 26 20:11:32 TAsn: what is with #763? close? Mar 26 20:11:43 sec Mar 26 20:12:25 mrmoku, not quite Mar 26 20:12:40 we still need to be able to add/remove fields Mar 26 20:13:28 actually I did not quite understand what you wrote there :P Mar 26 20:13:51 mrmoku, hm.. Mar 26 20:14:14 What we have now Mar 26 20:14:27 is mostly what the ticket talked about Mar 26 20:14:28 TAsn: and #1015 is just the missing elm_entry_utf8_to_markup I guess... Mar 26 20:14:34 mrmoku, I know. Mar 26 20:15:14 (1015) Mar 26 20:15:23 mrmoku, concerning 763 Mar 26 20:15:41 we implemented almost everything Mar 26 20:15:52 only thing left is the ability to add/remove fields to the contact domain Mar 26 20:28:31 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rf9f56ee687e6 10/src/view/message-show-view.c: message-show-view: use elm_entry_utf8_to_markup for the content Mar 26 20:28:39 TAsn: do you consider #716 as closed? Mar 26 20:28:42 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r49d1dee3eb4a 10/src/view/message-new-view.c: message-new-view: use elm_entry_utf8_to_markup for the content Mar 26 20:28:57 depends on what 716 is Mar 26 20:28:58 sec Mar 26 20:29:02 quick settings Mar 26 20:29:11 yes. Mar 26 20:29:17 Not quite Mar 26 20:29:32 I should open a new one/or just clarify what's left Mar 26 20:29:34 it's partially close Mar 26 20:29:37 ok Mar 26 20:29:38 I'll update the info Mar 26 20:29:39 sec Mar 26 20:30:12 done. Mar 26 20:35:44 mrmoku, the most important thing we need to do concerning trac Mar 26 20:35:53 is assigning/accepting tickets Mar 26 20:36:02 I'm afraid not many of us do this. Mar 26 20:38:08 TAsn, strings are duped and freed afterwards Mar 26 20:38:26 playya, and hash tables are unrefed or destroyed? Mar 26 20:38:27 TAsn, can you add new contacts, or to be mote precise can you edit fields (change name, or number, etc...) Mar 26 20:38:43 JesusMcCloud, read in ML/trac Mar 26 20:38:46 TAsn: doing that now Mar 26 20:38:47 I wrote something about it in both. Mar 26 20:38:51 mrmoku, :P Mar 26 20:38:55 actually already closed at least three :P Mar 26 20:38:59 k thx Mar 26 20:39:06 mrmoku, I assign all the time. Mar 26 20:40:10 but apparently not enough Mar 26 20:40:11 :P Mar 26 20:40:32 unrefed Mar 26 20:41:07 sweet Mar 26 20:41:23 I guess this is the same for all the other data types Mar 26 20:41:31 mrmoku, fso-glib looks decent, thanks god :P Mar 26 20:42:02 mrmoku, we just need to remember to ref the hashtables when needed. Mar 26 20:42:04 * mrmoku resurrects his fso-glib test to see if he has working signals Mar 26 20:42:31 TAsn: hehe, just added a FIXME in one of my last commits... to clear that :P Mar 26 20:42:41 :P Mar 26 20:45:28 mrmoku, actually, I'm not even sure what we did so far Mar 26 20:45:37 I mean, how come we didn't ref freed memory?! Mar 26 20:45:43 unless lfg didn't free it Mar 26 20:45:45 what a mess :P Mar 26 20:47:07 *grumble* Mar 26 20:47:26 is there really no Table.unpack in python-elementary? Mar 26 20:47:49 and no Table.clear? Mar 26 20:54:52 mrmoku, btw, we really need to define a set of simple regression tests we should do before comitting, what do you think? Mar 26 20:56:01 (I haven't suggested having strict development rules till now because I believe this slows down development and demoralizes developers, but I think we should maybe set a standard soon.) Mar 26 20:57:00 TAsn: what kind of regression tests do you mean? Mar 26 20:57:09 regression tests, logging guidelines (when to log and what), comment guidelines, whatever... Mar 26 20:57:34 mrmoku, I'm sorry I'm taking this example but it's the last, it's not because it was you and not me :P Mar 26 20:57:35 but: Mar 26 20:57:39 For instance the theme issue Mar 26 20:58:01 we could have defined a regression test as follows: Mar 26 20:58:10 Whenever we add something to the config file Mar 26 20:58:17 we should test with a config Mar 26 20:58:20 without a config Mar 26 20:58:22 GNUtoo: did you find a solution for our gtk++ issue? Mar 26 20:58:24 and with a bad value Mar 26 20:58:27 (or whatever( Mar 26 20:58:31 get what I mean? Mar 26 20:58:31 leviathan, no Mar 26 20:58:38 ok Mar 26 20:58:42 leviathan, I'll pm you Mar 26 20:58:46 ok Mar 26 20:59:00 mrmoku, that's a simple regression test (to make sure everything works at least as it worked before in various conditions) Mar 26 20:59:44 mrmoku, get what I mean? Mar 26 20:59:51 TAsn: well yes, for the config thing that's quite straight forward (and would have helped there probably) Mar 26 21:00:30 mrmoku, Although it was straight forward you didn't test it, and to be honest I wouldn't have as well :P Mar 26 21:01:00 As it's not set in our development guidelines (I would have done it at work for instance, where I did define it as a core test) Mar 26 21:01:20 So we need to find more tests for various scenarios Mar 26 21:01:38 I'm not even talking about unit testing for specific components Mar 26 21:01:43 (which is just an hassle) Mar 26 21:01:58 (although can be very helpful) Mar 26 21:02:10 Get what I mean? Mar 26 21:02:43 I don't find unit testing that important Mar 26 21:02:58 since we work differently (and better in my pov) Mar 26 21:02:58 playya: I need newer vala-dbus-binding-tool, right? Mar 26 21:03:19 we just dev, ship to unstable, and let the brave users (including ourselves) to tell us about bugs. Mar 26 21:03:33 TAsn: agree... some not overly complicated rules what one should test before pushing... Mar 26 21:04:17 mrmoku, not overly complicated is even too strict, we should do *very simple* tests Mar 26 21:04:26 because we don't get paid for this and we don't want to suffer :P Mar 26 21:04:40 j/k :P Mar 26 21:04:43 But I'm serious. Mar 26 21:04:46 :) Mar 26 21:05:07 If there's something in this world that I hate is testing. :) Mar 26 21:05:20 that would be valid for master branch only though... or not? Mar 26 21:05:30 yeah Mar 26 21:05:42 Your own branch is your terrain Mar 26 21:05:45 Do whatever you want. Mar 26 21:06:03 mrmoku, yes Mar 26 21:06:12 playya: ok Mar 26 21:06:16 (And you will have to do testing when you merge with master anyway) Mar 26 21:06:23 mickey pushed 0.14 to OE Mar 26 21:06:36 Anyhow, I'm partially off Mar 26 21:06:49 ping me if you need anything more important than "not important" Mar 26 21:06:49 :P Mar 26 21:07:03 some revisions have a bug which leads to NULLs for strings Mar 26 21:07:12 (Studying a bit, trying to catch up with the lost time) Mar 26 21:07:18 TAsn: have fun :P Mar 26 21:07:19 TAsn, ping. i need beer :) Mar 26 21:07:37 playya: ok, updating now... Mar 26 21:07:38 playya, dark/light? Mar 26 21:08:16 pils or weizen Mar 26 21:08:49 Will get you a pilsner late Mar 26 21:08:50 r Mar 26 21:08:53 ciao. Mar 26 21:09:16 thx. ciao Mar 26 21:14:55 TAsn: hi, clean build of shr failed, who can alayse and fix the problem ? Mar 26 21:15:47 nschle85, I'm mostly not here atm, sorry (studying) :P Mar 26 21:16:01 nschle85, though anyhow, I guess JaMaOff is the man to ask. Mar 26 21:16:32 TAsn: is JaMaOff really Off ? Mar 26 21:16:54 nschle85, I don't think he is a liar, so he probably is off :P Mar 26 21:18:14 any python-elementary expert here? Mar 26 21:18:23 I'm a liar though, I'll now say I'm off, although I'm not really. Mar 26 21:18:30 Wonka, try #e Mar 26 21:19:04 ok so tell me if i can help you (studying) , ps: i am still on developing shr user manual :-) Mar 26 21:21:27 TAsn: our company is alays searching for good students for practica and diploma :-) Mar 26 21:21:36 alwas Mar 26 21:21:40 always Mar 26 21:22:41 nschle85: pastebin the error? Mar 26 21:22:44 nschle85, nah, I don't need any help, thanks. It's just a matter of reading a lot of pages without a reason :P Mar 26 21:22:52 mostly knowning the courses convention Mar 26 21:22:53 s Mar 26 21:22:57 for that specific topic Mar 26 21:22:59 nothing more. Mar 26 21:23:03 Anyhow, I'm really off now. Mar 26 21:23:38 TAsn: bye Mar 26 21:26:00 mrmoku: i installed a public build server Mar 26 21:26:28 mrmoku: may oi send you the link ? Mar 26 21:27:45 nschle85: sure Mar 26 21:28:49 mrmoku, is there still supposed to be a fallback to the defautl theme in phoneui if sth is missing in the theme set in the config file Mar 26 21:31:12 JesusMcCloud: no Mar 26 21:32:54 mrmoku, good so no new bugs introduced... although some email notifications woudl be nice if the defautlt edj changes, cuase with every changes things are fubar in custom themes now Mar 26 21:40:12 JesusMcCloud: and maybe some doc to define what has to be there... will try to remember to send an email when I change something... Mar 26 21:40:56 mrmoku, Heinevdm said sth about commithooks in git Mar 26 21:41:57 JesusMcCloud: possible... but that will trigger on unteresting changes too :/ Mar 26 21:42:06 true... Mar 26 21:42:24 but i better have uninteresting changes aswell than no notification... Mar 26 21:43:04 the edc is small so i can look it over if sth changes and i'll know if there's work to be done... Mar 26 21:44:28 another thing, although the keypad is... well basically completely loco in its current state, it has the advantage of total customization... Mar 26 21:50:09 JesusMcCloud: yup you can go fancy :P Mar 26 21:50:30 exactly! Mar 26 21:51:51 i just haven't figured out how to make it work like a dial plate Mar 26 21:54:56 hehe :P Mar 26 21:55:14 that would be fancy, yes :) Mar 26 21:55:48 mrmoku, btw what about better feedback in the default keypad (like neo theme or o2)? very quick keypresses have no feedback which is annoying (i dont have acces to phoneui git repo) Mar 26 21:57:49 (fancy dialplate) i dont know how to move sth in circular motion using edje... i wonder if it is possible... Mar 26 21:58:45 JesusMcCloud: (access) sure you have (IIRC) Mar 26 21:58:52 that's libphone-ui-shr Mar 26 21:58:59