**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 31 02:59:56 2010 Mar 31 04:25:28 Good day all , is there any messenger for shr that supports yahoo ? Mar 31 05:04:00 alabd: pidgin? Mar 31 05:04:21 alabd: some telephathy-based probably does too Mar 31 05:04:42 alabd: and also you can use "yahoo transport" with your jabber account and use any jabber client. Mar 31 05:04:58 PaulFertser: hi how are you ? shr pidgin has not yahoo in it's list Mar 31 05:05:06 alabd: hi :) Mar 31 05:05:23 alabd: then ask folks to not remove that plugin Mar 31 05:05:39 asked before here no answer Mar 31 05:05:54 alabd: but i'd suggest to use jabber+transport while asking all your friends to switch to jabber. Mar 31 05:05:58 jabber ? Mar 31 05:06:21 alabd: the most reliable way for feature-requests like this is adding a ticket to SHR trac. Mar 31 05:06:45 alabd: yep, jabber/xmpp is the most sane and decent option for IM nowadays. Mar 31 05:07:48 thanks a bout bt headset yesterday humble left it :D now am configuring via wiki , as you said before am doing from this part http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Configuring_FSO Mar 31 05:09:04 TAsn: ok building 47617 for you (not pushed, rsynced yet) will be in tests/shr-unstable first Mar 31 05:09:52 of course PaulFertser shr pidgin has not jabber Mar 31 05:10:43 alabd: wow, that's weird, ask JaMa|Zz ;) Mar 31 05:11:33 alabd: it has Mar 31 05:11:47 there are only xampp irc msn google talk and icq Mar 31 05:12:06 alabd: xmpp is jabber Mar 31 05:12:44 PaulFertser: you mean each time testing a headset we should change mac address like here said ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Configuring_FSO Mar 31 05:12:59 alabd: yep... Mar 31 05:12:59 and rebboot shr ? Mar 31 05:13:25 alabd: i guess so, or restart frameworkd+phoneuid at least. Mar 31 05:16:02 and you mean we can use xampp plugin to login in yhoo isd ? Mar 31 05:16:06 id's* Mar 31 05:16:33 alabd: can you please read a little about Jabber and "transports"? I can pass you a link if you have difficulties finding it. Mar 31 05:17:36 will be thankfull because here am in our relatives home and can no be connected to internet a lot Mar 31 05:20:02 aala Mar 31 05:20:15 alabd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabber#Connecting_to_other_protocols Mar 31 05:21:10 thanks paul Mar 31 05:26:57 PaulFertser: how to save and exit in vi in shr it is different with debian it seems Mar 31 05:27:44 PaulFertser: no it is the same almost thanks Mar 31 05:27:51 found it Mar 31 05:29:21 alabd: :) Mar 31 05:39:01 will gprs be connected in suspend mode ?shr Mar 31 06:50:33 mrmoku: edje_cc issue from yesterday seems fixed with today's EFL bump :) Mar 31 06:52:24 hehe Mar 31 06:52:45 just sitting and waiting for problems being fixed upstream :P Mar 31 06:53:44 better than duplicated effort :) Mar 31 07:03:17 mrmoku: seen that libfamework-glib forces me to use ghashtable? Mar 31 07:04:13 Heinervdm: seen my response? Mar 31 07:04:20 mrmoku: no Mar 31 07:04:33 Heinervdm: the problem is it will break ogsmd Mar 31 07:04:48 so I'm not quite sure what to do Mar 31 07:05:01 at least daniele is using it Mar 31 07:05:18 yes, so it's mickeyl fault, we should blame him :D Mar 31 07:05:19 fso-glib branch for libphone-ui-shr? Mar 31 07:05:26 :P Mar 31 07:05:41 JaMa: probably Mar 31 07:05:47 the best solution Mar 31 07:06:09 JaMa: did you try phonefsod? Mar 31 07:06:33 mrmoku: maybe we can try to define SHR_NEW_KERNEL variable and conditionally append .32 patches to SRC_URI for easier .32 switch? Mar 31 07:06:53 mrmoku: not much.. because I didn't have libphoneui yesterday :/ Mar 31 07:07:16 and I went to bed quite early.. being a bit more tired than usuall Mar 31 07:07:26 JaMa: what else would that be needed for (SHR_NEW_KERNEL)? Mar 31 07:07:58 I mean is it just lfg? Mar 31 07:08:08 no Mar 31 07:08:13 fsodeviced too Mar 31 07:08:29 mickey said that he will switch fso to .32 in repo if we really want Mar 31 07:08:39 then it would be just fso SRCREV bump Mar 31 07:08:48 yep Mar 31 07:08:54 I think we don't need that Mar 31 07:08:57 we just switch :) Mar 31 07:09:21 Heinervdm: I will look into how much work it is to switch libphone-ui to libfso-glib Mar 31 07:09:25 should not be too bad Mar 31 07:09:59 mrmoku: what we don't need? Mar 31 07:10:00 mrmoku: but isn't it the same problem with libfso-glib as with lfg? Mar 31 07:11:08 JaMa: the SHR_NEW_KERNEL Mar 31 07:11:08 mrmoku: i will try sth else now Mar 31 07:11:24 Heinervdm: no, because libfso-glib is generated from the specs :) Mar 31 07:11:33 so it is automatically correct Mar 31 07:11:48 mrmoku: but from fsogsmd specs Mar 31 07:12:00 and sepcs are different for ogsmd and fsogsmd Mar 31 07:12:05 sure Mar 31 07:12:16 which means libfso-glib does not play nice with ogsmd anyway ;) Mar 31 07:12:30 yes Mar 31 07:12:54 libfso-glib will only work with fsogsmd, and lfg only with ogsmd Mar 31 07:13:04 mrmoku: ok, just switch will be easier, I agree :) Mar 31 07:15:59 mrmoku: phonefsod seems working (no need to SetFunc manually :)) Mar 31 07:17:07 JaMa: :) Mar 31 07:17:18 * JaMa now looking for liphone-ui-shr fix :) Mar 31 07:18:33 i'm trying a fix for sim-manager now Mar 31 07:18:47 I see it's already known.. just FYI: g_debug("_process_info(): error: %p, info: %p, userdata: %p", error, info, userdata); -> _process_info(): error: 0x15f00, info: 0xff5b8, userdata: 0x40558cec, and first g_hash_table_lookup SIGSEGV Mar 31 07:18:49 i think it will compile Mar 31 07:21:01 TAsn: phoneui-utils has gotten quite messy... any proposal for cleanup? Mar 31 07:22:38 JaMa: the problem is fsogsmd Mar 31 07:23:06 JaMa: it returns a GValueArray, but lfg only returns a GHashTable Mar 31 07:23:52 Heinervdm: not quite Mar 31 07:23:57 it returns three ints Mar 31 07:24:55 mrmoku: 3 gint in a gvaluearray Mar 31 07:24:58 GetPhonebookInfo ( s ) → iii Mar 31 07:24:58 no Mar 31 07:25:06 Heinervdm: strange that when I killed fsogsmd and removed disable=1 in frameworkd.conf (with frameworkd restart) I got segfault too, but maybe it was just something else (like modem not yet ready after that restart) Mar 31 07:25:10 that's bad Mar 31 07:25:28 then i have no chance to make it work for fsogsmd Mar 31 07:25:54 you mean make it work for both? Mar 31 07:26:13 yes Mar 31 07:26:37 can one 'überladen' functions in C ? Mar 31 07:27:36 hmm but that won't work either Mar 31 07:27:50 no Mar 31 07:28:03 let's just switch to libfso-glib and break with the past :) Mar 31 07:28:07 we need a ogsmd and a fsogsmd function in lfg Mar 31 07:28:32 thought about that too... but that won't work neither with automatically generated bindings :/ Mar 31 07:28:46 as you can't have two different signatures for the same name Mar 31 07:28:46 i thought we will make MS1 befor we breake everything ;) Mar 31 07:28:54 :P Mar 31 07:29:23 So we have to switch to Java Mar 31 07:29:24 Heinervdm: if that includes _not_ switchting to fsogsmd/new kernel Mar 31 07:29:35 all is fine Mar 31 07:29:55 I might someday travel to Java... but I will never switch to it ;) Mar 31 07:31:29 Heinervdm: why not push fsogsmd compatible version to new branch (for easier testing) and keep master for MS1 for a while? Mar 31 07:32:13 Heinervdm: talking about MS1... I think we can close some tickets :) Mar 31 07:32:28 what about #411 for example? Mar 31 07:32:32 JaMa: agree Mar 31 07:32:32 JaMa: that would be ok Mar 31 07:32:49 yesterday I replied to all MS1 bugs, I know something about Mar 31 07:32:54 JaMa: makes it difficult for others to try though... Mar 31 07:33:09 but usually it was something like "worksforme in shr-u" Mar 31 07:33:17 yeah Mar 31 07:33:34 maybe it would be even better to reply "please retest with recent and reopen if it's still issue for you" Mar 31 07:33:41 mrmoku: but quicksettings isn't releads yet, is it? Mar 31 07:33:44 and close them Mar 31 07:34:10 Heinervdm: sure it is Mar 31 07:34:17 Heinervdm: are you using old illume? Mar 31 07:34:24 mrmoku: yes Mar 31 07:34:30 because for illume2 TAsn bound it to the power key :P Mar 31 07:34:56 mrmoku: are keys bound properly after latest EFL bump for you? Mar 31 07:35:14 mrmoku: 2 days ago it stopped working for me (not sure why) Mar 31 07:35:27 JaMa: did not yet install it Mar 31 07:35:35 ok Mar 31 07:35:38 JaMa: is it in the feed? Mar 31 07:35:51 and really latest is not there yet NOTE: Running task 8162 of 14667 Mar 31 07:36:06 ok, will wait for it to finish then :) Mar 31 07:36:07 mrmoku: and when we release a MS1 we should make a RC for it first Mar 31 07:36:25 mrmoku: and I didn't rsync it yet too (tests/shr-unstable is deploy dir before rsync as you had before) Mar 31 07:36:31 Heinervdm: yes Mar 31 07:36:41 JaMa: ok Mar 31 07:36:46 JaMa: the version from yesterday evening is working Mar 31 07:36:50 * mrmoku moving upstairs... brb Mar 31 07:37:19 Heinervdm: von_fritz and pespin reported issues with file dialog segfaulting, have you tried that? Mar 31 07:37:36 JaMa: i've no file dialog Mar 31 07:38:32 you mean no app with file dialog, right? :) Mar 31 07:39:50 JaMa: yes :) Mar 31 07:39:58 but buttons are working Mar 31 07:40:13 and all apps in lite image Mar 31 07:41:38 Heinervdm: ok, if you can test latest (after build finish) I'll rsync it to public feed, right? Mar 31 07:41:49 JaMa: ok Mar 31 07:42:02 and is MS1 supposed to be released from testing2010 branch, right? Mar 31 07:42:05 JaMa: #474 is fixed, no (locale) Mar 31 07:42:06 JaMa: do you know a app with file dialog? Mar 31 07:42:32 Heinervdm: not sure if there is some other file dialog than what is used in intone/om-neon Mar 31 07:42:45 bumping the vala-dbus-binding-tool seems to have helped.It compiles now. Mar 31 07:42:54 spaetz: good :) Mar 31 07:43:09 JaMa: ok, i can try om-neon and intone Mar 31 07:43:36 mrmoku: OK, I'll close it Mar 31 07:44:28 ~lart cdc_ether Mar 31 07:44:29 * apt cuts off cdc_ether's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper Mar 31 07:48:36 JaMa: this is annoying: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1035 Mar 31 07:49:45 Heinervdm: last few efreet commits seems to be targeting this Mar 31 07:52:15 i don't like the new shell config Mar 31 07:54:06 intone segfaults Mar 31 07:54:11 which commit changed shell config (I didn't noticed that) Mar 31 07:54:32 Heinervdm: removed or no old intone database? Mar 31 07:54:58 JaMa: clean install, so no database Mar 31 07:55:25 It was somewhere between 24.3. and 28.3. Mar 31 07:56:29 it's missing snd_psm_oss Mar 31 07:58:09 RDEPENDS on kernel-module-snd-pcm-oss is enough? Mar 31 07:58:30 JaMa: i think we don't want to have that... Mar 31 07:59:00 the SIGSEGV is somwhere in elementary Mar 31 07:59:11 so we have to recompile it perhaps Mar 31 07:59:44 lets wait for die next update and then try again Mar 31 08:00:04 (shell config) with my last build from scratch shell config is fine again (green that is) Mar 31 08:00:07 11110 of 14667 Mar 31 08:00:49 JaMa: no pcm-oss please Mar 31 08:01:21 SHR: 03zimmermann 07libphone-ui-shr * r1bc26ffb5208 10/src/view/sim-manager-view.c: sim-manager: check for fsogsmd and don't search for contacts then Mar 31 08:02:12 mrmoku: we should bind quicksettings to powerkey in illume1 too Mar 31 08:02:34 and increase pressdelay too Mar 31 08:07:59 yep Mar 31 08:08:22 Heinervdm: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/195852/ Mar 31 08:08:46 29 tickets left... Mar 31 08:09:59 JaMa: how can it segfault after printing that warning? Mar 31 08:10:21 it's idling after that Mar 31 08:10:40 oh it's segfaulting in lfg now ;) Mar 31 08:10:58 because lfg want's to clean the HashTable Mar 31 08:12:22 or not even lfg, it's in dbus-glib Mar 31 08:12:36 so it's impossible to catch this... Mar 31 08:17:02 Heinervdm: yeah, not possible... Mar 31 08:17:11 Heinervdm: but you could implement the other way round instead :P Mar 31 08:17:36 Heinervdm: to see how the number selection dialog works take a look at contact-list-view Mar 31 08:17:57 ok Mar 31 08:18:16 mrmoku: is this already implemented for sending sms? Mar 31 08:18:30 and dialing? Mar 31 08:18:52 Heinervdm: on my disk, yes Mar 31 08:18:57 have to test and push Mar 31 08:18:58 ok Mar 31 08:19:08 for calls it is pushed Mar 31 08:19:13 just sms needs testing Mar 31 08:20:59 mrmoku: how can i name the button? Copy Contact to SIM is to long ;) Mar 31 08:21:29 hehe Mar 31 08:21:41 Heinervdm: just tried to switch fsogsmd -> frameworkd ogsmd and I got the same SIGSEGV and similar bt http://paste.pocoo.org/show/195855/ Mar 31 08:21:43 --> SIM ? Mar 31 08:22:10 mrmoku: ok Mar 31 08:22:48 Heinervdm: or 'to SIM' Mar 31 08:22:51 Unknown SIM error: Antenna powered off or SIM not unlocked yet <-- this isn't catched by me Mar 31 08:22:52 and 'from SIM' Mar 31 08:22:54 no idea Mar 31 08:23:50 failing packages: Mar 31 08:23:50 ERROR: '/home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/geoclue/geoclue_0.12.0.bb' failed Mar 31 08:23:54 ERROR: '/home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/packagekit/packagekit_0.5.2.bb' failed Mar 31 08:23:57 ERROR: '/home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/mcnavi_0.2.5.bb' failed Mar 31 08:24:00 ERROR: '/home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/mokoko/mokoko_svn.bb' failed Mar 31 08:24:05 and the rest (EFL) is in tests feed Mar 31 08:33:44 mrmoku: do you have a contact select view too? Mar 31 08:35:37 Heinervdm: no Mar 31 08:35:59 :( Mar 31 08:36:25 just a number select dialog isn't enough, if i have to select a contact first.. Mar 31 08:37:12 Heinervdm: we have contact-list-common, which you should use Mar 31 08:37:24 Heinervdm: like we use it in message-new-view Mar 31 08:37:25 ok Mar 31 08:51:29 yay, bumping fso stuff on shr-t worked. I can still make phonecalls :-) Mar 31 08:51:41 now on to bump shr-settings and phone* Mar 31 08:56:02 :) Mar 31 08:56:03 great Mar 31 08:56:36 atm it's a PITA to use shr testing until that critical bug is solved Mar 31 08:57:04 which is the most critical bug on shr-t at the moment? Mar 31 09:03:52 spaetz: it is able to make phonecalls. 8) Mar 31 09:05:18 spaetz: from my usability POV is that when you try to scroll icons on the main page it start launching applications Mar 31 09:05:28 which make trying to do anything real annoying Mar 31 09:06:29 graziano: ahh, I have no clue what the cause of that is. And I don't know how to fix it. Mar 31 09:06:54 spaetz: i think we should try to increase press delay in illume config Mar 31 09:06:57 If it requires bumping EFL, that would be quite hard, that usually introduces major disturbances.. Mar 31 09:07:14 Heinervdm: agreed. I don't know how though :) Mar 31 09:07:39 spaetz: TAsn is the expert for illume configs ;) Mar 31 09:08:06 mrmoku: I am bumping phonefsod, phoneuid, libphone-ui, libphone-ui-shr now. Anything else I need to do in tandem? Mar 31 09:09:22 spaetz: bump libphone-ui-shr only to the second latest for now, as i haven't tested if that patch really works Mar 31 09:09:24 JaMa, is that rev latest? (as he committed it a sec before I wrote that) Mar 31 09:09:34 Heinervdm, "expert" Mar 31 09:09:42 TAsn: yes Mar 31 09:09:45 more like an adventures noob :) Mar 31 09:10:12 TAsn: just because you did not assemble the commit policies yet ;) Mar 31 09:10:21 mrmoku, tell me what you find messy, and I'll suggest a cleanup :P Mar 31 09:10:37 TAsn: mainly that it is getting big Mar 31 09:10:42 if you are talking about the commit log: yeah, that's a terrible mess. Mar 31 09:10:43 we could split it in domains Mar 31 09:10:54 mrmoku, We just need to split it to more source files, yeah. Mar 31 09:11:12 TAsn: and I would like to do that _before_ starting a libfso-glib branch :) Mar 31 09:11:35 I don't think that's important before you start libfso-glib branch :) Mar 31 09:11:53 Heinervdm: ouch. too late. We are trying it now :) Mar 31 09:11:55 we'll just do it in the merge Mar 31 09:12:03 libfso-glib is top priority now (I think) Mar 31 09:12:06 TAsn: ok :P Mar 31 09:14:19 TAsn: btw. libfso-glib automatically means FSO2 Mar 31 09:14:34 does not work with ogsmd Mar 31 09:14:39 mrmoku, not exactly Mar 31 09:14:52 it means fso2 only where we'll migrate :) Mar 31 09:14:58 no Mar 31 09:15:05 it means fso2 where the API changed ;) Mar 31 09:15:08 mrmoku, just keep using lfg Mar 31 09:15:09 I know Mar 31 09:15:14 keep using lfg with ogsmd Mar 31 09:15:34 well... that's what I wanted to say :P Mar 31 09:15:34 I don't think we should move to fsogsmd just because we really like libfso-glib Mar 31 09:15:48 unless of course, fsogsmd works Mar 31 09:15:52 but doesn't fsogsmd seem to work nicely? Mar 31 09:15:55 fosgsmd looks good Mar 31 09:15:58 I haven't tested it yet Mar 31 09:16:12 at least for call, sms, not sure about gprs Mar 31 09:17:32 mrmoku, btw Mar 31 09:17:41 JaMa, spaetz: btw to you too Mar 31 09:17:58 I changed e-wm-config-illume-shr to also pop quick settings Mar 31 09:18:00 on power click Mar 31 09:18:44 * JaMa will wait for press delay change :) Mar 31 09:18:53 TAsn: can you try to find the value for press delay too? Mar 31 09:19:29 power click for quick settings. sounds ok. Is suspend/powerdown still possible' Mar 31 09:19:32 ? Mar 31 09:20:00 spaetz, yes, there are buttons there. Mar 31 09:20:06 Heinervdm, what's that? Mar 31 09:21:00 TAsn: in illume setttings->Launcher->Single/Double press to launch and bellow that is press delay Mar 31 09:21:04 TAsn: wrench ->launcher -> at the bottom Mar 31 09:21:55 ok, and the config is broken? Mar 31 09:22:17 TAsn: apparently, it is too easy to accidentally launch apps. Mar 31 09:22:28 50ms?! Mar 31 09:22:32 I actually try hard to launch apps. Mar 31 09:22:34 TAsn: i think we can fix http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/910 if we set it to 50ms Mar 31 09:22:52 It's 50ms here (I probably adjusted it manually, though not likely) Mar 31 09:23:03 TAsn: default in config is 0ms Mar 31 09:23:14 sucks :) Mar 31 09:23:33 TAsn: you did as you've written in that ticket ;) Mar 31 09:23:43 only in illume2 or also in illume1? Mar 31 09:24:25 illume1 Mar 31 09:24:30 value "single_click" int: 1; Mar 31 09:24:30 value "single_click_delay" int: 50; Mar 31 09:24:33 in illume2 ^ :) Mar 31 09:24:38 will fix in illume1 as well Mar 31 09:24:45 then adjust it in illume1 too ;) Mar 31 09:25:00 cool, let me know which rev/pkg this is in, so I can bump it too Mar 31 09:25:58 Heinervdm, I'm not even testing though :) Mar 31 09:26:22 TAsn: we will test it Mar 31 09:26:40 have fun: Mar 31 09:26:53 should work Mar 31 09:26:59 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r0a46a8014a51 10/e-wm/e-wm-config-illume-shr/module.illume.src: e-wm-config-illume-shr: Added single_click_delay 50 to config. Mar 31 09:28:19 JaMa: ^ rebuild? ;) Mar 31 09:28:41 illume_cfg->launcher.single_click = 1; Mar 31 09:28:41 illume_cfg->launcher.single_click_delay = 150; Mar 31 09:28:45 should have been the default though :| Mar 31 09:28:48 so no idea what went wrong. Mar 31 09:29:06 hmm Mar 31 09:29:18 TAsn: the magic bug fairy hit you Mar 31 09:30:03 Heinervdm, anyhow, it's now in config so give it a go :) Mar 31 09:30:26 raster, maybe :) Mar 31 09:30:41 which pacakge would that be in? Mar 31 09:31:14 e-wm-config-illume-shr ? Mar 31 09:31:39 mrmoku: do i have to use a pager for this? Mar 31 09:31:53 will bump Mar 31 09:33:31 Heinervdm: no Mar 31 09:34:16 that would be a lot of duplicate code, a phoneui_contacts_select() would be nicer :) Mar 31 09:35:08 hmm Mar 31 09:35:57 what code is duplicated? Mar 31 09:36:24 generating the view, filling the list Mar 31 09:36:48 only difference would be the callback when one selects a contact Mar 31 09:36:55 Heinervdm, you can create contacts-common.c or something like that (already exists btw) Mar 31 09:37:08 don't make duplicate code :P Mar 31 09:37:51 Heinervdm: difference between SIM and PIM contacts you mean? Mar 31 09:38:23 mrmoku: no, beween the selecting contact for messages, and selecting a contact to copy it to SIM Mar 31 09:38:51 and perhaps same for selecting contact to dial Mar 31 09:42:33 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r03798f977e6a 10/src/view/contact-view.c: contact-view.c: use the number selection dialog for SMS too Mar 31 09:42:37 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rfeceba2960b6 10/src/view/contact-list-view.c: contact-list-view.c: use the number selection dialog for SMS too Mar 31 09:42:49 Heinervdm: but the code for filling the list is in contact-list-common just for that Mar 31 09:43:49 yes but there are ~200 lines code needed to create view Mar 31 09:44:03 and put all those things together Mar 31 09:45:36 TAsn: your opinion? ^^ Mar 31 09:47:43 bbiab Mar 31 09:48:13 mrmoku|away, opinion: I don't have time to give opinions atm, sorry :) Mar 31 09:59:33 TAsn: ok :P Mar 31 10:01:19 mrmoku: i can try to make a generic one in sim-manager, and perhaps one can reuse it somewhere else Mar 31 10:05:11 Heinervdm: good Mar 31 10:15:35 Heinervdm, let me know if it does/does not work. Mar 31 10:15:36 food ciao. Mar 31 10:20:52 BillK: building shr-t should work now. YOu might need to clean and rebuild fso-specs. Although it *should* be updating that automatically. Mar 31 10:21:09 I lost trust into bitbake doing what it *should* be doing :-) Mar 31 10:22:06 spaetz: tkx, just came back to see ifn anythings changed! - good timimg :) Mar 31 10:22:12 hehe Mar 31 10:24:01 Heinervdm: right now the only way to start the SIM manager is through shr-settings->other->sim manager? Mar 31 10:24:18 spaetz: yes, or with the dbus call Mar 31 10:24:27 ok. testing it on shr-t now Mar 31 10:24:43 it has been spinning its wheel for a while now without anything else happening. Mar 31 10:24:57 I but the SIM card might not have been ready yet Mar 31 10:25:27 spaetz: i haven't catched the case that sim isn't ready... Mar 31 10:25:56 now SIM manager comes up without any contacts being shown. mmh Mar 31 10:26:07 let me reboot Mar 31 10:26:13 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * rfa10ab556285 10/preboot/vapi/config.vapi: preboot: add missing config.vapi Mar 31 10:26:15 spaetz: the problem is, that it loads the contacts only on first start of sim-manager Mar 31 10:26:23 after that they are cached Mar 31 10:27:01 right Mar 31 10:27:21 How can I enter a text into the "add contact" screen Mar 31 10:27:50 I have a name/phone button. and empty space and something that looks like a slider which changes to a trash can when I click it Mar 31 10:28:29 That slider is a pencil Mar 31 10:28:40 ah :) Mar 31 10:28:51 So is the keyboard supposed to pop up when I click it? Mar 31 10:28:56 that's the standard cantact add screen ;) Mar 31 10:29:18 There is a bug, the field has to be unselected before you press the pencil Mar 31 10:29:51 when you then press the pencil and click into the orange field the keyboard should pop up Mar 31 10:30:17 mmh, I can unselect as often as I want. Nothing happens but the changing to a trash can Mar 31 10:30:43 spaetz: click the pencil of the unselected field... and then click in the area left of it Mar 31 10:30:58 I tried that. Rebooting, then trying again. Mar 31 10:31:07 nahh... you reboot too often :P Mar 31 10:31:13 :) Mar 31 10:31:29 I did not reboot after upgrading phone*, so I want to make sure there are no old libs loaded. Mar 31 10:31:52 ahh... I thought you just rebooted :P Mar 31 10:31:58 no, not yet :) Mar 31 10:32:08 I was trying the add contacts first Mar 31 10:32:31 but looks nice. If we can replace that slider icon to a real pencil that would even be better ;-P Mar 31 10:35:21 please show me ls -la /dev/ttySAC1 Mar 31 10:36:39 spaetz: it's e's standard edit icon :P Mar 31 10:36:54 is it 204 65? Mar 31 10:37:09 root@om-gta02:~# ls -la /dev/ttySAC1 Mar 31 10:37:09 crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 204, 65 Mar 29 22:49 /dev/ttySAC1 Mar 31 10:37:15 thanks Mar 31 10:37:18 np Mar 31 10:37:23 mrmoku: ahh... well Mar 31 10:37:50 Heinervdm: does sim manager has a log file? Mar 31 10:38:03 spaetz: phoneuid.log Mar 31 10:38:08 Rebooted, waiting until SIM was ready and loaded it. Still spinning. Mar 31 10:38:10 ok Mar 31 10:38:20 hey guys Mar 31 10:38:42 Heinervdm: seems, I need to back out your last change: Mar 31 10:38:43 2010.03.31 12:35:24.421032 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: Trying PIN Mar 31 10:38:44 2010.03.31 12:36:26.607413 [libphone-ui-shr] WARNING: fsogsmd is currently not supported! Mar 31 10:38:53 I don't run fsogsmd Mar 31 10:39:11 I mean, select the previous revision for shr-t Mar 31 10:39:19 nm, you guys seem realllly busy Mar 31 10:39:23 :) Mar 31 10:39:32 badcloud: just faking business :P Mar 31 10:39:36 heh Mar 31 10:39:37 spaetz: ok, then i will revert that last commit Mar 31 10:39:38 morning Mar 31 10:39:40 mrmoku: haha Mar 31 10:39:52 I just had a short question with hopefully a short answer Mar 31 10:39:59 Heinervdm: ok, thanks Mar 31 10:40:33 but if fake business is booming, I won't get in the way ;) Mar 31 10:41:15 SHR: 03zimmermann 07libphone-ui-shr * r2106165a2be6 10/src/view/sim-manager-view.c: Revert "sim-manager: check for fsogsmd and don't search for contacts then" Mar 31 10:41:17 I actually already posted it on #openmoko Mar 31 10:41:40 Heinervdm: thanks, will bump. Mar 31 10:43:04 mrmoku, we really need to figure this out. Mar 31 10:43:22 maybe create a more simple example and show it in #e. Mar 31 10:43:45 TAsn: say, in what state is opimd's API? Mar 31 10:44:06 mickeyl, as for DBUS API Mar 31 10:44:13 TAsn: given the hypothetical idea of someone asking to writing this in Vala, would you say "yeah, go for it" or rather "nah, there's lots of API changes to come, better wait" Mar 31 10:44:23 mickeyl, I would say go for it. Mar 31 10:44:47 As the main changes if there even will be, would be in the values you enter queries (i.e values in the hash table) Mar 31 10:45:01 And maybe additional methods Mar 31 10:45:18 but I don't think we need any changes in current API Mar 31 10:46:24 good day allis shr modern fso or OM2008.x ? Mar 31 10:46:59 shr is as modern as it gets Mar 31 10:47:49 a bit too modern, at times :) Mar 31 10:48:45 mickeyl, btw, we will include changes in the actual values you enter in the hash table when you query, but those changes will be backward compatible. Mar 31 10:49:10 mickeyl, Anyhow, mind if I go through the API and give you an answer tomorrow? I don't want to speak without being certain. Mar 31 10:50:15 Btw, concerning opimd: From what I remember, the Query s had some issues I haven't fixed, I touched that part as little as possible. And there's a TODO in the opimd directory stating what's left. Mar 31 10:52:44 thanks spaetz Mar 31 10:54:31 TAsn: sounds good, please do Mar 31 10:54:36 (going over the API) Mar 31 10:54:41 mickeyl, ok, adding to my TODO. Mar 31 10:54:49 will send you an email/write here Mar 31 10:54:50 tomorrow. Mar 31 10:54:52 thanks Mar 31 10:55:34 np. Mar 31 11:04:24 what is default dbus timeout ? Mar 31 11:04:59 something very bad Mar 31 11:05:02 25s Mar 31 11:05:09 much too low on unpatched dbus installations Mar 31 11:06:35 this is shr-t Mar 31 11:07:43 cool, chuck norris sent an email to shr-devel :P Mar 31 11:07:47 heh Mar 31 11:08:00 geoclue built ok again after glib-2.0 bump, and now we get also webkit upgrade :) Mar 31 11:08:24 ways of god and dependency tree always suprise me Mar 31 11:09:04 mrmoku, Heinervdm: have you tried efl from tests/shr-unstable? can I rsync it to public feeds? Mar 31 11:09:26 spaetz: testing built an image - no errors. I'll try an upgrade in an hour or so after backups. Mar 31 11:09:31 JaMa: intone sigsegv for me Mar 31 11:09:44 JaMa: i we have to rebuild it Mar 31 11:10:43 Heinervdm: yeah, remember that.. will rebuild it for test after this runqueue finish Mar 31 11:11:22 JaMa, upgrades for yesterday on efreet solved Ibar broken things on Enlightenment (netbook) here Mar 31 11:11:27 you may wanna try to rebuild it Mar 31 11:11:40 pespin: ? Mar 31 11:11:55 pespin: what to rebuild? Mar 31 11:11:59 JaMa: moment Mar 31 11:12:10 JaMa, try to update efreet Mar 31 11:12:26 pespin: 47617 is already built Mar 31 11:12:38 pespin: which revision do you have? Mar 31 11:13:06 JaMa, ok, newer than mine then, should be ok I guess Mar 31 11:13:19 upgrading now Mar 31 11:13:22 47609 Mar 31 11:13:31 Heinervdm: intone still segfaults after rebuild Mar 31 11:13:47 JaMa: then no idea Mar 31 11:14:01 #0 0x409c454c in strncat () from /lib/libc.so.6 Mar 31 11:14:01 #1 0x40056910 in _item_realize () from /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0 Mar 31 11:15:32 seems like a bug in E? Mar 31 11:16:08 JaMa, can I get new E? Mar 31 11:16:45 TAsn: wait for mrmoku's ACK -> rsync to public feeds, or update /etc/opkg/*feed.conf to point to tests/shr-unstable Mar 31 11:17:03 mrmoku, ACK it already. :P Mar 31 11:17:46 Heinervdm: Y and there is still that error message about oss "FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found." Mar 31 11:18:11 is it 25s in shr-t? Mar 31 11:18:16 JaMa: perhaps we should use aoss for intone Mar 31 11:18:22 Heinervdm: we should ask c_c to remove any oss reference Mar 31 11:18:29 rebooting Mar 31 11:18:32 alabd: I do not understand your question. Sorry Mar 31 11:18:38 mrmoku: you reboot way too often :) Mar 31 11:18:40 JaMa: yes Mar 31 11:18:57 spaetz: :P Mar 31 11:19:25 TAsn: what would my ACK be worth then ;) Mar 31 11:19:40 Nothing I guess :P Mar 31 11:19:50 TAsn: just change your feeds :P Mar 31 11:20:02 I'm not crazy! Mar 31 11:20:05 * JaMa only ACKed that illume keeps running (in ps) after upgrade and xorg restart :) Mar 31 11:20:07 or wait a second for my ACK :;P Mar 31 11:20:24 TAsn: crazy would be to change feeds to my repo :P Mar 31 11:20:30 JaMa: is that new illume config already in the tests feed, or is it still building? Mar 31 11:20:42 still building Mar 31 11:20:47 ok Mar 31 11:21:10 and webkit-gtk will take a while :/ Mar 31 11:21:23 JaMa: looks good... ACK :) Mar 31 11:21:25 Heinervdm: it's in the shr-t feed though :) Mar 31 11:21:32 new illume config Mar 31 11:21:53 spaetz: geoclue compiled fine in shr-t? Mar 31 11:21:59 spaetz: but switching to testing could be dangorous ;) Mar 31 11:22:15 TAsn: does not fix our field edit problem though :U/ Mar 31 11:22:31 mrmoku, how can they fix something we didn't report? Mar 31 11:22:33 is default dbus time, 25s in shr-t? Mar 31 11:22:59 I just reported the keyboard icon doesn't change (although keyboard is popped) when an app asks for a keyboard Mar 31 11:23:07 TAsn: nah maybe somebody else ran into it too :P Mar 31 11:23:09 and the bad behavior of the Back button. Mar 31 11:23:17 in illume2 Mar 31 11:23:19 (both in illume2) Mar 31 11:23:31 And maybe some other changes, I don't remember the svn log to be honest :P Mar 31 11:29:26 * mrmoku lunch Mar 31 11:50:59 JaMa: hmm... I get Mar 31 11:51:01 * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-shr-minimal-x: * mesa-dri * Mar 31 11:51:14 for opkg -c rebuild shr-lite-image after make update Mar 31 11:51:23 is -c rebuild a bad idea for the imageß Mar 31 11:51:24 ? Mar 31 11:53:37 ah :/ for some reason after switch from _git to _7.8 it was renamed back :/ Mar 31 11:54:46 mrmoku: hopefully it will be resolved now after task-shr-minimal finish Mar 31 11:55:01 mrmoku: do you get it from tasks/shr-unstable upgrade right? Mar 31 11:55:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r2522472b8e39 10/zhone2/src/ (deviceagent.vala main.vala): zhone2: play ringtone and vibrate on incoming call Mar 31 12:02:30 spaetz: shr-t packages all upgraded as expected, rebooted fine and seems to *work* - have to test properly later Mar 31 12:03:10 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9f0ed59d7dec 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: remove warnings Mar 31 12:03:50 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r09b7c108e2dc 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/dbus_service/ (Makefile.am plugin.vala resource.vala): fsousaged: add basic support for shadow resources Mar 31 12:04:39 BillK: good news so far :) Mar 31 12:07:57 JaMa: yep Mar 31 12:08:40 JaMa: what would be the name now? Mar 31 12:10:07 JaMa: nvm. don't need a local image right now :) Mar 31 12:10:39 mrmoku: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/195946/ Mar 31 12:11:30 mrmoku: not sure why it's renamed this way and in my image it worked ok Mar 31 12:12:46 libglw? Mar 31 12:12:47 hmm Mar 31 12:12:49 :P Mar 31 12:23:53 Downloading http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/all/thone_0.5-r0.4_all.ipk :) Mar 31 12:24:04 mrmoku, ack? Mar 31 12:25:52 TAsn: efl? he acked but webkit-gtk just finished few sec ago Mar 31 12:26:10 now midori :/ Mar 31 12:26:13 JaMa, so when will I have efl ? :P Mar 31 12:26:26 * TAsn really needs it :) Mar 31 12:26:43 TAsn: as soon as buildhost finish, package-index+rsync Mar 31 12:26:53 midori done :) Mar 31 12:27:03 NOTE: Running task 10808 of 14667 Mar 31 12:27:12 ouch. Mar 31 12:27:35 no it will be quick.. Mar 31 12:28:22 failing packagekit just killed few hundrets tasks.. Mar 31 12:28:42 NOTE: Running task 13811 of 14667 Mar 31 12:30:57 :) Mar 31 12:30:57 TAsn: syncing :) Mar 31 12:31:00 Yay. Mar 31 12:31:22 and done Mar 31 12:34:56 JaMa: there was no illume-config in the update Mar 31 12:36:59 Heinervdm: starting shr-lite-image build now, lets see if it will be picked, but IIRC I merged/updated soon enough in last build :/ Mar 31 12:37:20 JaMa: hmm Mar 31 12:54:39 Heinervdm: built now.. not synced yet, sorry Mar 31 12:54:56 JaMa: i've tests as feed Mar 31 12:55:51 Heinervdm: then just wait a bit for package-index Mar 31 13:04:22 Heinervdm: do_package_write_ipk finished Mar 31 13:04:32 ok Mar 31 13:06:27 good day all , how to check if one device is paired or not in command line? PaulFertser Mar 31 13:06:33 alabd: hi Mar 31 13:06:45 alabd: i'm not sure there's a distinct way Mar 31 13:07:05 alabd: why not just try simple-agent script again just in case? Mar 31 13:08:32 no what was mdbus command? Mar 31 13:08:51 PaulFertser: Mar 31 13:10:40 alabd: i honestly do not know. I guess you can take a look at the list of devices in org.bluez but it doesn't necesarilly mean the device is paired because the other party might have another notion. Mar 31 13:16:19 hi all, I have a spare debug board I would like to donate to the openmoko project, is there any developer here who need one? Mar 31 13:17:02 alabd, look at deivce property "Paired" Mar 31 13:17:03 I don't know of I really need one Mar 31 13:17:32 I know how to use it,but I don't know if I will face the case where I will need to use it Mar 31 13:17:40 alabd, $ mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1506/hci0/dev_00_06_6E_19_16_28 org.bluez.Device.GetProperties | grep Paired Mar 31 13:17:40 'Paired': False, Mar 31 13:17:50 darn, I get a ringtone but no screen on incoming call Mar 31 13:17:58 how do I debug that.. mhh Mar 31 13:20:06 spaetz: set phoneuid.conf to debug Mar 31 13:20:18 and look into phoneuid.log Mar 31 13:21:16 doh, did that and restarted phoneuid and I got a call screen. Mar 31 13:22:24 rebooting with log level DEBUG. Mar 31 13:27:51 It works after a reboot on level DEBUG. weird. I have to check it out. Mar 31 13:28:14 Heinervdm: sim manager shows stuff if I wait long enough after boot :-) Mar 31 13:28:25 mrmoku, ping Mar 31 13:28:35 Importing worked flawlessly! Mar 31 13:28:43 YAY; I am happy. Mar 31 13:28:53 spaetz, now follow me: Mar 31 13:28:54 * spaetz writes a mail to the MLs. Mar 31 13:29:02 ~praise Heinervdm Mar 31 13:29:03 All hail Heinervdm! Mar 31 13:29:12 * spaetz bows to Heinervdm Mar 31 13:29:25 spaetz: ok, then i have to look how i can find out if sim is loaded Mar 31 13:29:38 spaetz: you don't use PIN? Mar 31 13:30:03 At least return with an error message "come back later". I use PIN. But SIM contacts don't seem available after SIM was entered correctly. Mar 31 13:30:11 I have to wait for another minute or so. Mar 31 13:30:27 Weird. Mar 31 13:30:31 mrmoku, i found another bug in libphone-ui-shr: some icoan are still not used from edj (the pngs in libphone-ui-shr) although the are also in edj... Mar 31 13:30:36 strange Mar 31 13:30:47 ~seen slyon Mar 31 13:30:49 slyon <~lukas@p4FDB37B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 15d 23h 4m 19s ago, saying: '(your local e settings will be lost)'. Mar 31 13:31:23 spaetz: perhaps i should just remove caching Mar 31 13:31:31 spaetz: it's not important for that Mar 31 13:31:55 JesusMcCloud: yeah, did only half the work :/ Mar 31 13:32:19 slyon is the guy behind the ildle screen, right? Mar 31 13:32:52 i need to bug him about theming... because the neo theme has a idle screen edc Mar 31 13:33:16 Heinervdm: (find out if SIM is loaded) fso emits a signal for that... but in your case it probably would be best to check the error Mar 31 13:33:25 JesusMcCloud: yep, slyon Mar 31 13:33:45 Heinervdm: and show an appropriate message Mar 31 13:33:58 it is prolly only a small chunk of code, but i dont want to mess things up... Mar 31 13:34:30 but his edc is one of the most readable one i've ever seen Mar 31 13:35:09 mrmoku: ok Mar 31 13:35:40 mrmoku: but first i will finish copy to sim Mar 31 13:36:14 ups Mar 31 13:36:55 mrmoku, what's up with widgets.edj? Mar 31 13:37:40 * JesusMcCloud needs more afri cola for caffeine flash Mar 31 13:37:41 no idea Mar 31 13:37:50 Heinervdm: I agree that caching is not important as long as it's a SIM Maager, you are only going to open it once. Caching might become useful if this becomes a opimd backend :) Mar 31 13:38:37 why the heck is my sim-manager.edc not working? Mar 31 13:39:03 how long should it take sim manager to show something after starting? - just sits there spinning ... Mar 31 13:39:45 BillK: I jsut sent a mail to the lists. I had to wait for 2-3 minutes after successful SIM auth until the card became ready. Mar 31 13:40:03 once it fails you have to reboot (due to sim manager caching entries and not retrying) Mar 31 13:40:26 when I did not wait long enough, I just had the infinite spinning wheel too Mar 31 13:40:42 ahh, this was registered, but suspended - unsuspened, did some stuff and then decided to play with it - been nearly 5m Mar 31 13:40:44 when I waited long enough it came back in a few seconds. Mar 31 13:40:53 mmh Mar 31 13:40:59 * JesusMcCloud <- noob! Mar 31 13:41:00 PaulFertser: headset is connected and paired how to make it trusted Mar 31 13:41:51 can we focus the contact field and pop up the keyboard as soon as we hit that pencil thingie? It is a bit unintuitive now :) Mar 31 13:41:58 BillK: i will disable caching and check for sim ready soon Mar 31 13:42:12 did /etc/profile change since latest upgrade? Mar 31 13:42:13 alabd: one sec Mar 31 13:42:28 JesusMcCloud: not that'd I know of. Mar 31 13:42:35 JesusMcCloud: it seems it changed somewhere between 24.3 and 28.3 Mar 31 13:42:57 it either changed or it is not run... Mar 31 13:42:59 alabd: dbus-send --system --dest=org.bluez --print-reply $BTADAPTER/dev_00_06_6E_17_27_E0 org.bluez.Device.SetProperty string:Trusted variant:boolean:true Mar 31 13:43:21 Heinervdm: ok, I'll kill this one and wait for upgrade - its still going :) Mar 31 13:43:50 BillK: just restart phoneuid and it will try again Mar 31 13:44:00 ok Mar 31 13:45:44 Heinervdm: did that, and restarted sim manager - I'll let it spin for awhile and see. Mar 31 13:46:03 BillK: it needs about a minute Mar 31 13:46:10 PaulFertser: how can be sure jabra headset works with shr/debian , connected and paired is enough Mar 31 13:46:30 playya, mickeyl: would it be possible to get the defines for bus paths from libfsoframework into libfso-glib? Mar 31 13:47:07 I don't want the additional dependency just for those defines... and having them everywhere is stupid too :) Mar 31 13:47:07 BillK: are u using shr-u or shr-t? Mar 31 13:47:30 BillK: i don't know if the correct version is in shr-u Mar 31 13:48:22 alabd: unfortunately, no. Mar 31 13:48:42 alabd: and unfortunately i do not know any other way then configuring fso in a tricky way and actually trying it. Mar 31 13:48:47 trying gsm calls. Mar 31 13:48:54 mrmoku: CRITICAL: Window is NULL (ui_utils_view_window_get:176) i used VIEW_PTR(view) for it Mar 31 13:49:19 PaulFertser: how can be sure jabra headset works with shr/debian , connected and paired is enough? can humble buy it because don't have time anymore testing it inshop Mar 31 13:49:36 Heinervdm: if view is a pointer you have to do VIEW_PTR(*view) Mar 31 13:49:47 alabd: i understand your concerns but i have to admit there's no other way except for trying it for gsm calls... Mar 31 13:50:27 mrmoku: libfsoframework contains the paths Mar 31 13:50:44 mickeyl: yeah, but I don't need it :) Mar 31 13:50:56 mrmoku: static struct SimManagerViewData view; Mar 31 13:51:12 or do you say it's lightweight enough to just include it for the defines only? Mar 31 13:51:22 Heinervdm: called it before init? Mar 31 13:51:27 mrmoku: you don't even need to link against it Mar 31 13:51:48 mickeyl: ahh right you are :) Mar 31 13:52:10 :) Mar 31 13:52:23 mrmoku: no, sim-manager it self shows fine and it's using that too, but if i click an "Copy to SIM" i'm getting that error Mar 31 13:52:31 fsoframework.h contains all the necessary things as #define Mar 31 13:52:48 #define FSO_FRAMEWORK_DEVICE_DisplayServicePath FSO_FRAMEWORK_DEVICE_ServicePathPrefix "/Display" Mar 31 13:52:53 ... Mar 31 13:53:45 mrmoku: hmm, i think i'm using it wrong... Mar 31 13:53:53 PaulFertser: tried call no result Mar 31 13:53:56 PaulFertser: should i Mar 31 13:53:56 PaulFertser: must it be trusted Mar 31 13:54:27 alabd: i'm not sure, in fact gsm calls with bluetooth never was decently supported. Mar 31 13:55:49 dos1: Heinervdm JaMa mickeyl mrmoku PaulFertser raster spaetz TAsn ping Mar 31 13:55:52 hi all, I have a spare debug board I would like to donate to the openmoko project, is there any developer here who need one? Mar 31 13:56:03 thanks Mar 31 13:56:45 sorry, I would not even know what to do with it :-). But perhaps someone else needs it. Mar 31 13:57:37 graziano: it would be great if there was some cool motivated low-level hacker among us... Mar 31 13:58:08 Heinervdm: (new/latest - built myself :) shr-t here - was 10 minutes that time, just killed it. Mar 31 14:00:48 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * ref4edab309e6 10/zhone2/src/ (callpage.vala deviceagent.vala main.vala): zhone2: fix vibration and path to ringtone Mar 31 14:01:13 ouch... Mar 31 14:01:15 http://pastebin.com/fKR8VQNK Mar 31 14:01:40 you seem to have a problem with kernel repository Mar 31 14:02:17 mickey|bbl: hmm... it is not complete though Mar 31 14:02:22 defines for pim are missing :/( Mar 31 14:02:30 mrmoku: patches appreciated Mar 31 14:02:35 :) Mar 31 14:02:40 see interfaces.vala Mar 31 14:02:44 ok Mar 31 14:02:46 very simple Mar 31 14:22:44 SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * rdf522dfc585f 10/phoneui-shr/phoneui-shr-theme-neo/ (19 files): fixed sim manager adn added custom icons (svgs included) Mar 31 14:22:48 graziano, To tell you the truth, I'm interested in low-level hacking, but I'm not proficient in this topic and I'm not even sure how much time I have, so giving it to me will probably won't give good results :P Thanks for the offer though. Mar 31 14:23:10 JaMa, I can get e, right? Mar 31 14:23:46 TAsn: ok thanks, I think GNUtoo|oeee could use it sooner or later Mar 31 14:23:59 graziano, that would be best. Mar 31 14:25:05 k Mar 31 14:28:53 uhm Mar 31 14:28:54 root@om-gta02:~# intone Mar 31 14:28:54 ERR:elementary elm_main.c:871 elm_quicklaunch_sub_init() Cannot connect to X11 display. check $DISPLAY variable Mar 31 14:28:54 root@om-gta02:~# echo $DISPLAY Mar 31 14:28:54 root@om-gta02:~# Mar 31 14:29:35 ^ after opkg upgrade some minutes ago + restart Mar 31 14:30:40 mrmoku, "fixed in unstable"? :P Nice addition :) Mar 31 14:30:50 pespin, I also noticed changes Mar 31 14:30:55 it looks like the profile is broken :P Mar 31 14:32:29 TAsn, anyway, setting DISPLAY env, intone segfaults so conclusion -> no intone xD Mar 31 14:33:06 TAsn: Heinervdm's idea :) Mar 31 14:33:49 mrmoku, :) Mar 31 14:33:53 TAsn: it's to make it easier for spaetz to finde the needed fixes Mar 31 14:33:59 Heinervdm, yeah, nice. Mar 31 14:34:05 Though he should remember to change it to fixed Mar 31 14:34:07 after he's done. Mar 31 14:34:13 yes Mar 31 14:34:16 TAsn: yes,I should :) Mar 31 14:34:38 btw, I get a a similar error relatd o lists in emtooth too, but it doesn't segfault like in intone Mar 31 14:34:41 although that requires me to actually know which bugs I fix on an update :) Mar 31 14:34:48 intone -> ERR:elementary elm_widget.c:1121 _elm_widget_type_check() Passing Object: 0x12f400, of type: 'genlist' when expecting type: '(unknown)' Mar 31 14:35:05 emtooth -> ERR:elementary elm_widget.c:1121 _elm_widget_type_check() Passing Object: 0xb0a00, of type: 'list' when expecting type: 'scroller' Mar 31 14:37:13 :) Mar 31 14:40:47 JaMa, is it possible that /etc/profile has changed? Mar 31 14:42:42 TAsn, you are the expert here regarding enlightenment.cfg files, right? Mar 31 14:43:04 people say that Mar 31 14:43:08 though it's not entirely true. Mar 31 14:43:09 :P Mar 31 14:43:55 mrmoku, btw, the lock screen should also be launched on the "suspend" signal, not only on the lock signal, as it's not launched when we do manual suspend atm. :| Mar 31 14:46:29 TAsn, i'm getting an eet error: "cannot write to Mar 31 14:46:57 JesusMcCloud, the e wiki has good info about eet Mar 31 14:47:05 I'm really no expert :P Mar 31 14:47:53 hmm.. so you never encountered that error?! Mar 31 14:48:57 i want to set a icon theme, but since the latest efl rev seems to be very broken i can't so i wanted to do it using a config file Mar 31 14:50:09 JesusMcCloud, nope, no idea. Never seen this error. Mar 31 14:50:16 JaMa, I sent you a cookie. :P Mar 31 14:50:30 hmpf, any idea what package (on freerunner) contains eet? Mar 31 14:51:57 no idea. Mar 31 14:54:32 JesusMcCloud: libeet1 (shr-u) Mar 31 14:54:43 thx! Mar 31 14:56:44 Brinky, can you decompile ~/.e/e/config/profile.cfg? Mar 31 14:57:34 mrmoku: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/libphone-ui-shr/src/view/sim-manager-view.c Line 186 Mar 31 15:00:59 JesusMcCloud: no, have no idea about the file format Mar 31 15:01:39 Brinky, root@om-gta02:~/.e/e/config# eet -d profile.cfg config profile.src <- try this please Mar 31 15:04:14 Heinervdm: use VIEW_PTR(*pack->view) Mar 31 15:04:23 well... Mar 31 15:04:24 wait Mar 31 15:04:46 no Mar 31 15:05:38 JesusMcCloud: oh, eet is a executable - i thought it's just libeet, i have no eet Mar 31 15:05:57 Brinky, install libeet-tests Mar 31 15:07:57 JesusMcCloud: ERR:Eet_Main eet_main.c:135 do_eet_decode() cannot write to profile.src Mar 31 15:08:32 Brinky, same here and i have no idea why... hopefully just a bad revision Mar 31 15:08:58 speaking of bad revision.. Mar 31 15:09:47 JaMa, another efl bump rising up on the horizon? Mar 31 15:11:38 JesusMcCloud, I don't think we have eet in the repos. Mar 31 15:11:51 TAsn, eet is in the repos Mar 31 15:11:57 JesusMcCloud, why should it write to profile.src anyway? you should tell it to write to profile.cfg Mar 31 15:11:58 ... Mar 31 15:12:15 and read from profile.src Mar 31 15:12:32 TAsn, i want to decompile (am i doing it the wrong way around?) Mar 31 15:12:50 Oh, if you want to decompile you are fine. Mar 31 15:12:56 Heinervdm: and it is 186 that gives the win = 0 message? Mar 31 15:12:57 :P Mar 31 15:13:09 mrmoku: yes Mar 31 15:13:23 can't see yet why :/ Mar 31 15:13:32 me either Mar 31 15:13:34 TAsn, appearentky not since i get the same error as Brinky Mar 31 15:14:02 JesusMcCloud, send me the .cfg and the command line that you are using Mar 31 15:14:05 and I'll test it here if you want. Mar 31 15:14:07 mrmoku: everything runs fine until i press that button Mar 31 15:14:17 TAsn, ~/.e/e/config/profile.cfg? on freerunner (libeet-tests install eet) on my box i have the same result Mar 31 15:14:52 ok so nvm if you have the same result on the box :| Mar 31 15:16:44 will a g_debug("%s",NULL) segfault? Mar 31 15:16:53 (from ML) ..."those ugly pencil icons"... those "ugly" icons are awesome, because they work on every background! Mar 31 15:17:56 dos1, ompimd-cli seems to be broken since latest upgrades Mar 31 15:20:40 Heinervdm, not sure what the standard says about the printf famil Mar 31 15:20:40 y Mar 31 15:20:57 but at least, in glibc, it'll translate as (null) IIRC Mar 31 15:21:03 TAsn: i wil try :) Mar 31 15:24:07 SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * rc1cab51604f0 10/phoneui-shr/phoneui-shr-theme-o2/ (o2.edc sim-manager.edc): fixed sim manager (hopefully) Mar 31 15:26:17 JaMa, neo theme (df522dfc585fc0ad83e7164f451d15fb770c524b) and o2 (c1cab51604f0eb1c9b4add1c65a86c08b6800b7a) got updated Mar 31 16:07:10 mrmoku|away: that mesa-dri issue is resolved by xf86-video-glamo rebuild Mar 31 16:07:19 JesusMcCloud: already built and synced Mar 31 16:07:32 nice Mar 31 16:08:04 * JaMa leaving Mar 31 16:08:09 TAsn: yes you can :) Mar 31 16:09:13 JaMa|Off, already upgraded :P Mar 31 16:09:14 thanks Mar 31 16:09:16 works gret. Mar 31 16:09:17 great. Mar 31 16:17:21 *sigh* Mar 31 16:17:24 Apr 27 04:16:01 htcdream user.warn kernel: [ 268.479431] stop_drawing_early_suspend: timeout waiting for userspace to stop drawing Mar 31 16:17:29 GNUtoo|oeee: it still doesn't work Mar 31 16:17:41 mickeyl, ah ok Mar 31 16:17:47 mickeyl, I'll look Mar 31 16:17:51 thanks! Mar 31 16:18:01 mickeyl, your kernel config is in oe I bet Mar 31 16:18:06 for sure Mar 31 16:18:15 recipes/linux/linux-leviathan/defconfig Mar 31 16:18:16 mickeyl, also what xserver are you using? Mar 31 16:18:20 none Mar 31 16:18:24 console Mar 31 16:18:26 framebuffer Mar 31 16:18:45 uuhhh Mar 31 16:18:59 mickeyl: I posted you my config Mar 31 16:19:27 btw: I'm building shr-minimal Mar 31 16:19:31 yeah, i guess i have to change every option :/ Mar 31 16:19:33 should I also build zone? Mar 31 16:19:34 until i find out which one makes it work Mar 31 16:19:36 *sigh* Mar 31 16:19:52 yeah, you can build zhone2 Mar 31 16:19:54 as demo Mar 31 16:20:20 mrmoku|away: i droped ui_utils_view_window_get from the code but i'm still getting CRITICAL: Window is NULL (ui_utils_view_window_get:176) Mar 31 16:20:54 ok Mar 31 16:22:31 Heinervdm, so you didn't build it. Mar 31 16:22:36 Or, it happens somewhere else. :P Mar 31 16:22:58 Or, you used something that calls it Mar 31 16:23:03 the annoying thing is that after a failed attempt to suspend, the panel no longer gets init again Mar 31 16:23:09 so you're stuck without lcd Mar 31 16:23:12 just grep for ui_utils_view_..._get in ui_utils.c Mar 31 16:23:38 and see what calls it that you are using. Mar 31 16:24:58 could no_console_suspend=1 in the options have any effect? Mar 31 16:26:59 or Mar 31 16:27:02 -CONFIG_FB_EARLYSUSPEND=y Mar 31 16:27:08 mickeyl, are you shure you did what I said? in your leviathan_defconfig I do not see it Mar 31 16:27:09 +# CONFIG_FB_EARLYSUSPEND is not set Mar 31 16:27:18 GNUtoo: let me check Mar 31 16:27:35 CONSOLE_EARLYSUSPEND should be Y Mar 31 16:27:48 git show 50e27651d42b32c556a24b5997ccc505c84d5f69 Mar 31 16:27:55 -# CONFIG_CONSOLE_EARLYSUSPEND is not set Mar 31 16:27:55 +CONFIG_CONSOLE_EARLYSUSPEND=y Mar 31 16:27:59 ok Mar 31 16:28:12 however Mar 31 16:28:15 lev's defconfig has Mar 31 16:28:16 mickeyl, did you do it editing defconfig by hand? I'll look Mar 31 16:28:23 +# CONFIG_FB_EARLYSUSPEND is not set Mar 31 16:28:29 so perhaps we additionally need to disable that Mar 31 16:28:34 yes, did it by hand Mar 31 16:28:56 mickeyl, not good Mar 31 16:29:08 mickeyl, it's a 3 state switch Mar 31 16:29:21 you must make ARCH=arm xconfig Mar 31 16:29:22 oops Mar 31 16:29:24 or menuconfig Mar 31 16:29:28 or whatever you want Mar 31 16:29:37 under which config option does it hide? Mar 31 16:29:44 User-space screen access Mar 31 16:31:26 hmm Mar 31 16:31:33 too many options Mar 31 16:31:46 ctrl + f ? Mar 31 16:32:07 does nothing Mar 31 16:32:09 and search early Mar 31 16:32:30 i only have a terminal on my buildserver Mar 31 16:32:36 so i need to go through the whole menuconfig Mar 31 16:32:53 mickeyl, power managements options Mar 31 16:33:01 ah! Mar 31 16:33:03 thanks Mar 31 16:33:04 got it Mar 31 16:33:37 Heinervdm, I don't think it's necessary to change the milestone to closed tickets :P http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1043#comment:2 Mar 31 16:34:28 ctrl +f is only for xconfig Mar 31 16:35:10 riht Mar 31 16:35:17 ok, bitbaking the new kernel Mar 31 16:35:19 for menuconfig it's / Mar 31 16:35:29 but it's not as good as the xconfig search Mar 31 16:35:41 it displays the options,and where they are Mar 31 16:35:48 but you must go there alone Mar 31 16:35:50 there is no link Mar 31 16:36:18 (go to the option you want,the one that is displayed trough '/' ) Mar 31 16:36:23 this time i'll test before committing Mar 31 16:36:35 ok Mar 31 16:36:39 lol Mar 31 16:36:42 any idea about multitouch btw.? Mar 31 16:36:48 yes it's possible Mar 31 16:36:54 TAsn: i've seen it to late ;) Mar 31 16:36:55 I know how to enable it in the driver Mar 31 16:36:57 but... Mar 31 16:36:59 wow, cool Mar 31 16:37:03 how do we handle it in userspace? Mar 31 16:37:04 what happens in the input protocol then?= Mar 31 16:37:16 also we are tslib for now Mar 31 16:37:31 we would need to enhance the tslib interface Mar 31 16:37:34 I don't know if tslib handles multitouch Mar 31 16:37:35 for mutliple cursors Mar 31 16:37:37 yes but later Mar 31 16:37:43 needs wifi right now Mar 31 16:37:55 and sound routing Mar 31 16:38:00 yes, wifi and bt are probably more important than MT Mar 31 16:38:01 done correctly Mar 31 16:38:38 mickeyl, you have a phone,or also some accesories with it Mar 31 16:38:44 such as headphones Mar 31 16:38:50 with the button on it Mar 31 16:38:55 let me look in the box Mar 31 16:39:31 pouch Mar 31 16:39:32 usb cable Mar 31 16:39:35 headphones with button Mar 31 16:39:58 yes, wifi and bt are probably more important than MT Mar 31 16:40:13 more important than MT? Tell that to the iPhone users/devs and they will slay you on the spot. Mar 31 16:40:20 hehe Mar 31 16:40:23 oh well Mar 31 16:40:31 mt is nice Mar 31 16:40:36 but honestly, it's uses on a phone are limited Mar 31 16:40:49 i can say that as iphone developer and user Mar 31 16:40:54 :) Mar 31 16:41:10 mickeyl, and mostly gimmicky (atm, it can probably be used for cool things as well). Mar 31 16:41:17 yep Mar 31 16:41:24 the ipad actually is another story Mar 31 16:41:28 mickeyl, And you don't think MT is more important than having a Modem? Mar 31 16:41:42 no, i'd say MT is even less important than a modem Mar 31 16:41:46 which kernel sources should I use for building 2.6.32? Mar 31 16:41:52 I guess you are not the typical iPhone user. Mar 31 16:41:57 possible ;) Mar 31 16:41:58 i like maemo's approach of website zooming more than MT, since it only requres one finger Mar 31 16:42:14 Anyhow, food. Mar 31 16:42:26 booting... Mar 31 16:42:43 someone needs to accellerate this bootloader Mar 31 16:42:47 it's slow as molasses Mar 31 16:43:26 suspending... Mar 31 16:44:21 resuming... Mar 31 16:44:23 YES! Mar 31 16:44:24 GNUtoo: thanks! Mar 31 16:44:34 ok, i'll work this into FSO now Mar 31 16:44:37 err... later Mar 31 16:44:44 ok Mar 31 16:45:10 vanilla 2.6.32.10 is unbuildable for GTA02 and om-gta02-2.6.32 branch from git.openmoko.org complains about Makefiles Mar 31 16:46:11 Martix: with what config? Mar 31 16:46:23 defconfig from SHR-u Mar 31 16:48:05 btw current SHR Makefile is unbuildable too, problems with basic stuff like ow_sha256_sum and gcc Mar 31 16:51:26 want debug ARM FCSE patch, but this problems are showstoppers :-) Mar 31 16:53:12 :-/ Mar 31 16:53:57 Martix: shr makefile is working fine here... Mar 31 16:55:01 try make update and perhaps you'll see :-) Mar 31 16:55:32 i'm up to date Mar 31 16:58:17 seems like build in shr-testing works better, but linux-openmoko-2.6.32 fails with ERROR: function do_uboot_mkimage failed Mar 31 17:06:32 Martix: "problems with basic stuff like ow_sha256_sum and gcc" did you remove tmp? Mar 31 17:07:12 nope, I am going to try it Mar 31 17:07:30 Martix: we build it quite often (I rebuilt from scratch few days ago, mrmoku about 2 days ago, Heinervdm also few days ago) and I don't remember anyone complaining about ow_sha256_sum or gcc Mar 31 17:08:07 Martix: and last few gcc changes in oe.dev weren't merged yet Mar 31 17:58:22 Martix, are you sure you are buiding shr-t when you got 2.6.32? Mar 31 17:58:45 JaMa, it seems org.bluez service doesn't go up in dbus :S Mar 31 17:59:25 that is nott build by default Mar 31 18:00:10 spaetz: he is trying to port FCSE patch to 2.6.32.. so I guess he used shr-t only as userland for his own build Mar 31 18:00:22 ahh, i see Mar 31 18:01:01 pespin: is bluetoothd running for you? Mar 31 18:01:50 JaMa: exactly :-) Mar 31 18:02:24 JaMa, nop, but it should, I set bluetooth policy to on with shr-settings Mar 31 18:02:40 as it seemed like it was failing with automatic in emtooth Mar 31 18:03:22 pespin: I got "bluetoothd[31793]: Can't open HCI socket: Address family not supported by protocol (97)" Mar 31 18:04:02 JaMa: missing kernel support? Mar 31 18:04:06 Martix, would fcse help us a lot? Mar 31 18:04:07 pespin: not sure if it's related to 2.6.32 or devtmpfs or something.. but I got BT running about a month ago with both :/ Mar 31 18:04:36 JaMa, I'm not using .32, and I've been able to use emtooth/bluetooth since 2 o 3 days ago Mar 31 18:04:44 more recently, I don't remember ;) Mar 31 18:05:13 pespin: and do you see same error when running bluetoothd -n -d? Mar 31 18:05:15 spaetz: yes, speeds up things, cache wouldnt be flushed too frequently Mar 31 18:05:45 JaMa, no error here :S Mar 31 18:07:07 JaMa, so the problem here was that bluetoothd wasn't inited Mar 31 18:07:15 Heinervdm: found it ? Mar 31 18:07:59 cool, go for it :-) Mar 31 18:09:09 pespin: opkg files bluez4 | grep init -> None Mar 31 18:09:40 pespin: if that's what you call "inited" Mar 31 18:09:47 * mrmoku thought bluetoothd is now more... Mar 31 18:10:21 ? Mar 31 18:10:27 JaMa, really don't have idea where is it called. I suppouse it's fso fault then Mar 31 18:11:49 it has sense with the fact that shr-settings doesn't work either Mar 31 18:37:23 Heinervdm, sim-manager: Please add error handling. The phone-utils functions support that, so you will be able to know if you need to reload sim or not. Mar 31 18:37:49 Or even, use a function to determine if the count of found contacts have changed, and if so, reget. Mar 31 18:39:07 by getting phonebookinfo/phonebookstorageinfo Mar 31 18:39:37 or best, use: org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimReady Mar 31 18:39:54 To check if sim is ready before setting the cache as the nothing you get before sim is reay. Mar 31 18:39:56 ready* Mar 31 18:39:58 Heinervdm, ok? :P Mar 31 18:46:24 Hi! I'm having trouble building SHR. The build fails at the task ncurses do_install when trying to relink libpanel.a The error in the log is: /home/azrael/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/cross/armv4t/lib/gcc/arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/4.4.3/../../../../arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses Can anybody give me a hint how to solve this? Mar 31 18:57:48 GNUtoo: leviathan: how do we want to wake up? Mar 31 18:57:52 any button? Mar 31 18:57:55 special button? Mar 31 18:57:57 or combination? Mar 31 18:57:58 mickeyl, yes Mar 31 18:58:14 mickeyl, did you use android? Mar 31 18:58:17 never Mar 31 18:58:23 how does it work there? Mar 31 18:58:24 user woudl expect the power button Mar 31 18:58:30 at the right of the buttons Mar 31 18:58:34 ok Mar 31 18:58:36 the one with a phone down button Mar 31 18:58:38 but... Mar 31 18:58:44 geeks would expect any button ;) Mar 31 18:58:52 under android it's very annoying: Mar 31 18:58:56 you phone someone Mar 31 18:59:00 the screens becomes black Mar 31 18:59:03 you want screen back Mar 31 18:59:08 you press the power button Mar 31 18:59:14 the conversation exits Mar 31 18:59:17 ooh, really? Mar 31 18:59:19 that's nuts Mar 31 18:59:21 we can do better Mar 31 18:59:38 indeed I had no time to fix it in my 100%-free-in-the-main-cpu builds Mar 31 19:00:45 ok, i will let it wakeup on every button, but will grab all input nodes, so that the wakup doesn't get propagated to the higher layers Mar 31 19:00:49 (I concentrated on low-level things like audio,calls etc...) Mar 31 19:00:51 ok Mar 31 19:01:04 one annoying thing that I'd like you to fix Mar 31 19:01:14 on resume, the brightness gets hardcoded to 100% Mar 31 19:01:25 could you fix that to use the last brightness value before suspend? Mar 31 19:01:26 Heinervdm, how's the "loading" object you used in sim manager named in elementary? Mar 31 19:03:57 mickeyl, mmm I'll try,but I don't know nothing about suspend-resume Mar 31 19:04:12 mickeyl, also brightness doesn't behave like it should,I cheated Mar 31 19:04:16 just take a look at 'init sharp panel' Mar 31 19:04:25 i bet there it will hardcode to 100% Mar 31 19:04:32 s/will/is/ Mar 31 19:04:33 mickeyl meant: i bet there it is hardcode to 100% Mar 31 19:04:41 Heinervdm, I mean the animation with a logo rotating Mar 31 19:04:50 ok Mar 31 19:04:56 SHR: 03jesus 07shr-themes * r5093da3ca27b 10/elementary/elementary-theme-o2/o2.edc: adjusted anchor color, but it is still a botch Mar 31 19:05:00 ah it re-init the pannel Mar 31 19:05:11 I thought there were some callbacks for suspend Mar 31 19:05:17 JaMa, o2 theme please 5093da3ca27bb50388ac3277d8685a38772d7f48 Mar 31 19:05:23 I'll look at leviathan's commit Mar 31 19:05:33 but I was asked to respond in a thread somewhere Mar 31 19:05:35 I'll do it Mar 31 19:05:37 then I look Mar 31 19:05:41 ok Mar 31 19:06:28 GNUtoo: thank you Mar 31 19:06:43 leviathan: are you ok with waking up on any button? Mar 31 19:06:54 yes! Mar 31 19:06:58 what ever! Mar 31 19:06:58 k Mar 31 19:07:03 most important Mar 31 19:07:08 it wakes up at all ;D Mar 31 19:07:10 hehe Mar 31 19:07:11 true Mar 31 19:07:20 it's interesting for FSO Mar 31 19:07:30 we don't have a device yet that doesn't "really" suspend in the classical way Mar 31 19:07:36 so that improves FSO architecture Mar 31 19:10:12 hi Mar 31 19:11:07 JesusMcCloud: ok.. neo too? Mar 31 19:11:22 do you know what's needed for a (almost) vanilla 2.6.32 kernel to use the screen on GTA02? Mar 31 19:12:06 JaMa, no neo is still whatever i said few hours ago Mar 31 19:12:18 mickeyl: indeed Mar 31 19:12:59 i wish we had that level of suspend/resume on the neo Mar 31 19:13:02 *sigh* Mar 31 19:13:12 so many cool things you can do Mar 31 19:13:21 when you don't have to stop the CPU Mar 31 19:14:09 data logging without compromises Mar 31 19:14:11 :) Mar 31 19:14:43 ThibG: compilation of vanilla 2.6.32.10 for GTA02 works for you? Mar 31 19:14:58 ThibG: my ends with: mach-gta02.c:(.init.text+0x110): undefined reference to `s3c_device_usb' Mar 31 19:15:22 well, I'm not using the vanilla kernel, but the one provided by Debian (unstable) Mar 31 19:16:49 but that's 2.6.32.10 I guess Mar 31 19:16:56 ok, thaks, I'll try it...now I am building kernel from SHR-u Mar 31 19:17:08 mickeyl: we could do this also on Neo Mar 31 19:17:24 its only a question of kernel Mar 31 19:17:25 it compiles, and boot fine, but nothing displayed on screen :/ Mar 31 19:17:25 :) Mar 31 19:17:51 leviathan: well Mar 31 19:17:56 it's a question of power consumption Mar 31 19:18:12 the s3c24xx can't radically downclock Mar 31 19:20:31 hmm Mar 31 19:21:39 mrmoku: are your module dependencies working? Mar 31 19:21:48 mrmoku: they're not for me and i wonder whether that's a local problem Mar 31 19:25:42 mickeyl: module dependencies? Mar 31 19:26:10 kernel.bbclass usually gathers module dependencies automatically and puts them into the Control files Mar 31 19:26:16 this no longer works for me Mar 31 19:26:38 (at least for htcdream/2.6.23), so I'd like to know whether this still works for FR kernels Mar 31 19:29:09 mickeyl: SHR root@gojama /media/sdcard2 $ opkg info kernel-module-snd-soc-neo1973-wm8753 | grep Depends Mar 31 19:29:12 Depends: update-modules, kernel-2.6.32.10, kernel-module-snd-soc-s3c24xx-i2s, kernel-module-snd-soc-s3c24xx, kernel-module-snd-soc-wm8753, kernel-module-snd-soc-core, kernel-module-snd-pcm.... Mar 31 19:29:22 if that's what you're asking Mar 31 19:29:47 hmm Mar 31 19:29:48 thanks Mar 31 19:29:50 grrr Mar 31 19:29:55 why is it broken for me... Mar 31 19:34:13 Martix_, is PLAT_S3C enabled? Mar 31 19:35:43 JesusMcCloud: in feeds, thanks Mar 31 19:36:12 i'm the one to say thx ;-P Mar 31 19:37:25 well thanks for theme update :) Mar 31 19:40:02 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r646acdff2da1 10/fsousaged/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Mar 31 19:40:02 freesmartphone.org: fsousaged: add skeleton for new lowlevel plugin 'lowlevel_kernel26_staysalive' Mar 31 19:40:02 freesmartphone.org: This plugin is for systems that use the kernel26 suspend/resume mechanism, Mar 31 19:40:02 freesmartphone.org: however the CPU is not halted during suspend. Mar 31 19:44:53 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra94664087ed9 10/fsousaged/ (5 files in 4 dirs): fsousaged: install special configuration for htc_qualcomm_dream Mar 31 19:46:21 Does smbd know smth about this http://chinagrabber.com/5-0-inch-touch-screen-quad-band-cell-phone-w-180-degree-rotate-screen-gps-wifi-java---bphone-arm-linux-2-6.aspx ? Mar 31 19:46:33 "Operating system - ARM Linux 2.6" Mar 31 19:46:46 may be from images can get what OS this "phone" use Mar 31 19:51:28 JaMa, could you package this kbd? http://pastebin.org/129690 i've benn usign it for ages now and i always miss it on fresh install... it has everything the default has + loads of stuff more for terminal usage and it uses no dictionary Mar 31 19:53:18 lindi-: ah, you're right.. rebuilding kernel now (strange - not sure when it get lost, but even defconfigs in 2.6.31 have CONFIG_BT not set), thanks Mar 31 19:53:54 waaahrg, damn illuem kbd is borken in landscape!!! Mar 31 19:53:54 JesusMcCloud: I don't have RW to illume-keyboards repo, ask TAsn, I'll add it to recipe after the push it to shr git repo Mar 31 19:54:09 thx Mar 31 20:03:49 JesusMcCloud, in illume2 keyboard in landscape works. Mar 31 20:04:01 JesusMcCloud, please send a patch to illume-keyboards repo and I'll apply it. Mar 31 20:12:28 ThibG: I used defconfig from SHR-u Mar 31 20:13:34 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r01f53bf4ff48 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fsousaged: lowlevel_kernel26_staysalive: add prototype implementation Mar 31 20:14:32 TAsn, will do (kbd: just talking with devilhorns) Mar 31 20:16:40 Martix_: defconfig in shr-u enables Thomas's DRM glamo driver Mar 31 20:17:00 Martix_: if you're using that, you need to apply also the patches there Mar 31 20:17:09 Martix_: or use gdrm-2.6.32 branch Mar 31 20:17:31 JaMa, thanks for the keyboard related fixes :) Mar 31 20:17:47 updated Azerty available + X Input Method, yeah \o/ Mar 31 20:37:11 mmm mickeyl I wonder how to do that: Mar 31 20:37:28 *only the msmfb driver knows when it's suspended,not the backlight driver Mar 31 20:37:37 =>so I've to call the backlight driver no? Mar 31 20:37:54 so I need to get a struct with the correct functions Mar 31 20:38:02 Martix_: do you = "mobi phil"? Mar 31 20:38:04 should I go that way? Mar 31 20:38:10 or anyone else in here? :) Mar 31 20:38:14 make a struct Mar 31 20:38:17 pass it to pannel Mar 31 20:38:26 and retrive it from pannel in msmfb Mar 31 20:40:11 mmm maybe I could use trout_backlight_ops Mar 31 20:40:51 ahhh Mar 31 20:40:52 nice Mar 31 20:40:53 BL_CORE_SUSPENDRESUME Mar 31 20:41:00 Notify the backlight driver some property has changed */ Mar 31 21:29:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7f1d36a10169 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/lowlevel_kernel26_staysalive/plugin.vala: fsousaged: lowlevel_kernel26_staysalive: and set state back to on Mar 31 21:45:03 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * rda6e984b2981 10/ (22 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git+ssh://git.shr-project.org/shr-themes Mar 31 21:45:14 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r7f7ac790f9df 10/e-wm/e-wm-config-illume2-shr/e.src: e-wm-config-illume2-shr: Disable e splash screen. Mar 31 21:51:20 mickeyl, I'll look at backlight harder tommorow Mar 31 21:51:25 I'll go bye Mar 31 21:51:49 ok, thanks Mar 31 21:51:51 have a good night Mar 31 22:04:58 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r858ef2dcfc4f 10/zhone2/src/gsmagent.vala: zhone2: check runtime variable ZHONE_SKIP_USAGE for skipping usage integration Mar 31 22:05:43 JesusMcCloud, here? Mar 31 22:06:00 TAsn, pong Mar 31 22:06:43 JesusMcCloud, what commands did you use to extract that config? Mar 31 22:06:51 ??? Mar 31 22:07:00 ahh Mar 31 22:07:02 :P Mar 31 22:07:08 checkign log... Mar 31 22:07:10 I now have time to see what went wrong. Mar 31 22:09:23 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r244532b6e1d3 10/fsotdld/data/fsotdld.conf: fsotdld: allow owning org.freesmartphone.otimed Mar 31 22:10:28 TAsn, root@om-gta02:~/.e/e/config# eet -d profile.cfg config profile.src Mar 31 22:10:36 ok Mar 31 22:10:39 nvm me :P Mar 31 22:10:42 It looks great. Mar 31 22:10:46 I hoped you did it wrong :P Mar 31 22:12:08 there are more pressing issues, for example me having an (almost) ready to run, edc for a nice illume1-topbar-style illume2 indictor, but no efl programming knowlege to implement it Mar 31 22:13:12 also i have no f*cking i dea where the desktop icon font in illume2 is set... Mar 31 22:15:10 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r739f0b016248 10/e-wm/e-wm-config-illume2-shr/e.src: e-wm-config-illume2-shr: Rearranged topbar icons order. Mar 31 22:15:10 JesusMcCloud, don't even start. Mar 31 22:15:16 illume2 topbar Mar 31 22:15:31 I mean, let it be, I'll do some hacking when the time comes (in c code) Mar 31 22:15:37 At the moment, it's just not there yet. Mar 31 22:16:16 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r91fc36756f34 10/zhone2/src/ (deviceagent.vala main.vala): zhone2: trigger suspend if IdleNotifier recommends to do so Mar 31 22:16:47 TAsn, it is a piece of cake if you know efl Mar 31 22:17:35 the window switcher might be a littel tricky, bot makeing it narrower (i think i even foudn the pieve of code where the height is set) and making it slide is easy Mar 31 22:18:01 JesusMcCloud, I know where the height is set Mar 31 22:18:07 and it's set according to scale Mar 31 22:18:22 TAsn, i found the multiplier in the source Mar 31 22:18:28 32 :P Mar 31 22:18:32 yup Mar 31 22:19:00 and why the heck didnt he use a macro for tat 32? i mean it is all over the place Mar 31 22:19:19 hehe Mar 31 22:19:23 because he hacked it :P Mar 31 22:19:32 It'll change to be in a config soon Mar 31 22:19:34 don't worry. Mar 31 22:19:39 (if bitbake build e-wm fine in the next 20 minutes i wont go to sleep tonight and hack aroudna topbar) Mar 31 22:20:02 because at least this is code i understand Mar 31 22:20:35 i just cant start from scratch (i know it will be ugly ass code, but i dont care... the softkey has to die!!!) Mar 31 22:22:16 i mean i dont blame him, he did the architecture, but implemented examples that are not soutable for the freerunner Mar 31 22:22:55 btw Mar 31 22:23:02 can you please check something for me? Mar 31 22:23:46 it depends :P Mar 31 22:24:11 what's the scaling factor on your freerunner? Mar 31 22:24:18 (somewhere through the illume wrench) Mar 31 22:24:21 sec Mar 31 22:24:37 284 Mar 31 22:24:44 I mean the value in the scrollbar Mar 31 22:24:49 142 Mar 31 22:24:51 JaMa|Zzz, Just a reminder: something went wrong with the profile! Mar 31 22:24:53 JesusMcCloud, thanks. Mar 31 22:26:47 I tried playing with the scaling earlier today Mar 31 22:26:59 We use a pretty fucked up scale :P Mar 31 22:27:25 But I wanted to go back to the default scale so I'll see everything like a user :P Mar 31 22:32:06 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * rfd627ea655a8 10/fsodeviced/conf/palm_pre/fsodeviced.conf: fsodevice: conf/palm_pre Add some ids to ignore. Update spaces Mar 31 22:33:03 good night Mar 31 22:33:47 well bitbake failed... so no hacking in the next 2 weeks Mar 31 22:35:03 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r285e2f0a92fc 10/e-wm/e-wm-config-illume2-shr/e.src: e-wm-config-illume2-shr: Added another little fix to the positioning of the topbar items Mar 31 22:36:13 anyways, prolly better that way, tomorrow i must not oversleep, gn8 Mar 31 23:10:35 mickeyl: sorry for not responding to the modules dep thing... was at a clients site doing some server installation and just came back :/ Mar 31 23:10:53 d'oh, lousy work times Mar 31 23:10:57 hehe Mar 31 23:11:04 nevermind, seems it's broken locally Mar 31 23:11:06 :/ Mar 31 23:12:06 now I'm full of coffee and can't sleep :P Mar 31 23:12:21 argh Mar 31 23:12:35 oh well... there goes another nite of coding ;) Mar 31 23:12:55 yeah, gives me time to convert libphone-ui to fso-glib :) Mar 31 23:13:05 excellent Mar 31 23:13:14 meanwhile I'm debugging kernel drivers... Mar 31 23:13:19 what has become of me... Mar 31 23:13:35 sunken down to low level ;) Mar 31 23:13:39 indeed Mar 31 23:13:52 htc dream? Mar 31 23:14:04 yep. for some reason the framebuffer panel gets not initialized on resume Mar 31 23:14:14 it's almost as it's thinking it's still in blank mode Mar 31 23:14:36 changing to vt1 and back to vt2 forces it to reinit Mar 31 23:14:46 but that goes with an awful flicker that i don't want Mar 31 23:14:55 hmm :/ Mar 31 23:15:04 so i need to find out what's happening here Mar 31 23:15:15 leviathan: that could be your X resume problem as well, btw. Mar 31 23:15:32 as X is using another VT same as zhone2 Mar 31 23:15:42 or ecore-fb for that matter Mar 31 23:16:01 uhm Mar 31 23:16:04 yes Mar 31 23:16:14 i posted you my resume script... Mar 31 23:16:37 http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/susres Mar 31 23:17:29 that url always times out for me Mar 31 23:21:13 no, that doesn't fix it Mar 31 23:21:19 (not here) Mar 31 23:21:26 blpower doesn't trigger it to reinit Mar 31 23:21:38 it's still thinking the console vt is blanked Mar 31 23:24:00 mrmoku, libphone-ui -> libfso-glib :)))) Mar 31 23:25:44 mickeyl: http://pastebin.com/iSKNtxW4 Mar 31 23:25:59 thanks, but doesn't wake it up here Mar 31 23:26:14 let me check the KD mode ecore-fb sets Mar 31 23:27:33 TAsn: :) Mar 31 23:28:02 KDGRAPHICS, that's ok Mar 31 23:31:24 leviathan: try the following Mar 31 23:31:26 chvt 2 Mar 31 23:31:31 then suspend Mar 31 23:31:33 and resume Mar 31 23:31:48 basically I should sleep now Mar 31 23:31:52 probably Mar 31 23:31:54 g'night Mar 31 23:31:57 because I need to get up early Mar 31 23:31:59 gn8 Mar 31 23:32:02 until tomorrow Mar 31 23:32:13 I've got an additional day free this week Mar 31 23:32:15 so np ^^ Mar 31 23:32:26 k Mar 31 23:44:42 JaMa|Zzz, please bump EFL, more illume2 issues got fixed :P Mar 31 23:46:59 EFL bumping week - every day a new rev :P Mar 31 23:47:19 TAsn: any idea how to clean up dbus proxies? Mar 31 23:47:55 mrmoku, the only way is RTFM :P Mar 31 23:47:58 no idea :P Mar 31 23:49:42 heh Mar 31 23:49:55 already tried TFM Mar 31 23:50:10 nothing there? Mar 31 23:50:20 I hate the F-GLIB-DEVS Mar 31 23:50:22 :) Mar 31 23:50:23 in the glib dbus bindings thing, no Mar 31 23:50:44 mrmoku, I guess best solution would be RTF-HEADER Mar 31 23:50:44 :P Mar 31 23:51:28 mickeyl: do you know if one has to free a proxy gotten from fso-glib via some .._get_foo_proxy() ? Mar 31 23:52:16 * mrmoku stuffs a FIXME in the code :P Mar 31 23:52:25 I'm afraid i have no idea Mar 31 23:52:42 mickeyl, write a FIXME and wait for playaa Mar 31 23:53:25 speaking of the devil Mar 31 23:53:42 raster, is there a way to write e gadgets as applications and not modules? Mar 31 23:54:13 TAsn: nup Mar 31 23:54:42 you could make a module that exports some kind of ipc service that an exernal app can connect to.. and crate gadgets/control them etc.. Mar 31 23:54:50 but i consider that "out of scope" for core e to have Mar 31 23:55:01 please continue this discussion at #e Apr 01 00:14:21 mickeyl, ogsmd is unresponsive after a few connect to gprs/disconnect cycles Apr 01 00:14:38 *frameworkd Apr 01 00:15:25 yep Apr 01 00:15:28 that's known Apr 01 00:15:45 something w/ FUTEX_LOCK, glib, glib-python and god what knows Apr 01 00:16:04 Ok, just making sure. Apr 01 00:16:34 i gave up debugging that as it locked way beyond my level of comfort Apr 01 00:17:03 glib child spawning and python-glib has problems Apr 01 00:39:06 hi! Apr 01 00:39:14 i'm sticking to qvga in FR :) Apr 01 00:39:32 mickeyl, look at this output from python-mdbus: Apr 01 00:39:33 but running either X with 240x320 at 142 dpi or Xephyr on my computer Apr 01 00:39:38 [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ContextStatus from :1.18 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device(1, 'outgoing', { }) Apr 01 00:39:41 font rendering with efl is very bad Apr 01 00:39:55 mickeyl, this signal (with the empty hash table at the end) causes mdbus2 to segfault. Apr 01 00:40:20 could this be a theme issue? Apr 01 00:40:41 TAsn: please open a bug against it Apr 01 00:41:01 mickeyl, I was gonna, though the main question Apr 01 00:41:11 is this an issue with ogsmd or mdbus2? Apr 01 00:41:21 I mean even sending an empty hash, is this correct? Apr 01 00:41:32 daniele_athome: font rendering rocks, if you use proper fonts... look here: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=2 Apr 01 00:41:37 (the htcdream pictures) Apr 01 00:41:45 TAsn: empty hash is perfectly valid Apr 01 00:41:49 mdbus2 is at fault here Apr 01 00:41:55 ok, thanks. Apr 01 00:42:03 mickeyl, sorry what should I look? Apr 01 00:42:17 font rendering looks sweet for me Apr 01 00:42:20 yes in vga :) Apr 01 00:42:33 well, that's half-vga Apr 01 00:43:00 yes... Apr 01 00:43:09 in qvga on FR everything looks bad Apr 01 00:43:14 not much you can do about it ;) Apr 01 00:43:40 * mrmoku thinks daniele_athome does not like that answer ;) Apr 01 00:43:48 lol Apr 01 00:44:01 actually apart from font rendering looks quite good Apr 01 00:44:11 anyway this could be a elementary theme issue... Apr 01 00:44:15 i'm using gry Apr 01 00:45:26 mickeyl, have fun: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/525 Apr 01 00:46:22 right Apr 01 00:46:22 thanks Apr 01 00:46:39 i know now why the panel doesn't reinit Apr 01 00:46:39 mickeyl, that's it!! Apr 01 00:46:48 that bug! Apr 01 00:46:50 daniele_athome: ? Apr 01 00:47:13 apparantly only the fbcon kicks the panel reinit Apr 01 00:47:14 when gsm is not registered, the networkstatus signal has a bogus hashtable Apr 01 00:47:29 but only if KD_TEXT is set Apr 01 00:47:36 and ecore_fb sets KD_GRAPHICS Apr 01 00:47:36 that makes segv Apr 01 00:47:37 which is ok Apr 01 00:47:42 daniele_athome: define bogus Apr 01 00:48:03 meaning that the pointer is != NULL but if I try to access the hashtable with glib functions, it segs Apr 01 00:48:06 daniele_athome: it should be empty Apr 01 00:48:34 of course, but glib says that if the key is not found NULL is returned Apr 01 00:48:38 not segv :) Apr 01 00:49:03 actually the segv occurs when gsm is not activated Apr 01 00:49:11 i.e. before requesting gsm resource Apr 01 00:49:23 daniele_athome, please, if you may, repeat all of this tomorrow when I'm here :P Apr 01 00:49:34 I want to fix the damn seg with illume gsm module. Apr 01 00:49:37 lol Apr 01 00:50:02 Though after reading this mess, I really think I'll just implement my own gadget. Apr 01 00:50:03 if I will make it you will find me here tomorrow Apr 01 00:50:10 TAsn: ahh, and you have to change it to listen to Status signals too... not only SignalStrength Apr 01 00:50:31 mrmoku, Don't worry. Apr 01 00:50:42 mrmoku, what about libphone-ui? everything works? :) Apr 01 00:50:47 :P Apr 01 00:50:57 getting to the end of phoneui-info... Apr 01 00:51:02 phoneui-utils still to do Apr 01 00:51:11 sweet. Apr 01 00:51:15 and coffe effect is quite low by now ;) Apr 01 00:51:19 shit. Apr 01 00:51:24 going to get some sleep real soon now :-) Apr 01 00:51:42 daniele_athome: btw. please consider to switch to libfso-glib Apr 01 00:51:56 daniele_athome: actually you don't have much choice ;) Apr 01 00:52:11 mmm... Apr 01 00:52:12 as soon as we switch to fsogsmd Apr 01 00:52:46 mrmoku, I just hope libfso-glib does not break binary-compat on every build like lfg used to :( Apr 01 00:52:47 well frameworkd-glib is much more usable in pure C... Apr 01 00:52:52 :( Apr 01 00:53:20 If it'll happen I swear to got I'm writing a perl script to parse those damn Xml's and create a proper c lib :P Apr 01 00:53:21 daniele_athome: hmm... not sure about that Apr 01 00:53:23 night. Apr 01 00:53:28 night TAsn Apr 01 00:53:28 night Apr 01 00:56:37 mickeyl: I though you were writing an new init? Apr 01 00:56:55 yes Apr 01 00:57:01 i am Apr 01 00:57:07 working on many things in parallel Apr 01 00:57:22 right now finishing fsogsmd and writing a small phone UI Apr 01 00:57:26 mrmoku, or someone might do an effort to port frameworkd-glib to fsogsmd ;) Apr 01 00:57:33 small how? Apr 01 00:57:33 that person could be me... who knows Apr 01 00:57:34 and that's where the panel kills me atm. :/ Apr 01 00:57:38 if i will have time... Apr 01 00:58:24 tmzt_: well, it's going to be an FSO demo app that features what the middleware provides, telephony, sms, location, etc. Apr 01 00:58:46 what toolkit? Apr 01 00:58:50 E Apr 01 00:58:52 FL Apr 01 00:59:06 for now Apr 01 00:59:09 since the UI is done Apr 01 00:59:20 reusing from zhone1 (which was done in python) Apr 01 00:59:29 daniele_athome: for sure it won't be me ;) I'm already sick hacking that ugly beast :P Apr 01 00:59:39 eheh Apr 01 00:59:46 eventually i may decide to go Qt/QML, but now the priority is finishing middleware Apr 01 01:00:00 actually... priority is to fix panel reinit now :/ Apr 01 01:00:03 *sigh* Apr 01 01:00:04 why is all this work needed over just using dbus bindings in c? (glib whatever) Apr 01 01:00:22 which work you mean? Apr 01 01:00:35 libfso-glib libframeworkd-glib etc. Apr 01 01:00:46 libfso-glib is hardly any work Apr 01 01:00:48 it's autogenerated Apr 01 01:00:58 ah ok Apr 01 01:01:04 created from specs Apr 01 01:01:08 docs.freesmartphone.org Apr 01 01:01:09 but not runtime discovery, that's the only real difference? Apr 01 01:01:25 libfso-glib is the same as libframeworkd-glib, only autogenerated Apr 01 01:02:36 why wouldn't some type of tiny gnome-session work for activity, launcher, etc. Apr 01 01:02:58 focus in the project is still on the lowlevel modem/mux stuff? Apr 01 01:03:10 no Apr 01 01:03:13 mickeyl, Qt/QML? Apr 01 01:03:22 my focus is telephony middleware Apr 01 01:03:33 including hardware abstraction for devices Apr 01 01:03:37 yeah, but the API/dbus API hasn't changed Apr 01 01:03:53 of FSO? Apr 01 01:03:58 yeah Apr 01 01:04:10 what kind of access to hardware is needed when X is not running? Apr 01 01:04:11 compared to when? I#m doing changes as I move to the Vala daemons Apr 01 01:04:15 why is dbus the way to do this? Apr 01 01:04:32 it's still split into a phoneserver, lowlevel part? Apr 01 01:04:33 ah, that's almost philosophical Apr 01 01:04:45 dbus is the right way to split services and presentation lgoic Apr 01 01:05:02 X is gaining a lot of features, it could easily get support for location and other input/event devices Apr 01 01:05:06 no matter which language or UI toolkit you want Apr 01 01:05:10 absolutely, ya Apr 01 01:05:12 X rocks Apr 01 01:05:19 nokia patches are also finally getting upstream Apr 01 01:05:28 to make it smaller for arm devices Apr 01 01:05:29 against X? Apr 01 01:05:32 memory usage, etc. Apr 01 01:05:33 yep Apr 01 01:05:35 awesome Apr 01 01:05:39 can't wait to see that Apr 01 01:05:48 my demo UI will work both with fb and X Apr 01 01:05:53 no, now I would really like to see drm for non GL-like hardware Apr 01 01:05:57 and kill fbdev Apr 01 01:06:12 since fbdev will never really support swapping, mapping offscreen bufferes, etc. Apr 01 01:06:16 yeah Apr 01 01:06:22 fbdev is very limited, no doubt Apr 01 01:06:57 if you were using Qt there could be some collaboration with meego(old mer) on low class hardware, but that would need an abstraction for the network layer Apr 01 01:07:22 they have a lot of interest in Qt and there's no resources to get Nokia/Intel support for low class (pre omap3/snapdragon I'd say) hardware Apr 01 01:07:26 with open drivers Apr 01 01:07:37 yeah, could be interesting Apr 01 01:07:49 however Apr 01 01:07:53 nokia/intel won't use FSO Apr 01 01:08:08 nah, but there phone stuff might be closed anyway Apr 01 01:08:09 as they employ Marcel Holtmann who will stick ofono into the architecutre Apr 01 01:08:22 or fully dependent on GL drivers for sgx/ati2.0 Apr 01 01:08:31 which we can't use on an open stack Apr 01 01:08:46 yep, but that would need an abstraction for the network layer Apr 01 01:08:51 that's my point Apr 01 01:08:56 but your using connmgr? Apr 01 01:09:10 ya, connman looks nice Apr 01 01:09:22 they also have audiomgr now Apr 01 01:09:32 nothing in that or connman is ofono dependent Apr 01 01:09:37 that only leaves voice calls Apr 01 01:10:02 audiomgr just does routing, leaves AT to ofono Apr 01 01:10:14 i see Apr 01 01:10:19 connman has an ofono plugin, I assume it also has an fso plugin? Apr 01 01:10:20 similar to our fsodeviced audio plugins Apr 01 01:10:30 no, no one wrote that yet Apr 01 01:10:37 fso is a bit understaffed :) Apr 01 01:10:55 are you using tuntap? Apr 01 01:11:01 for mux'd/ppp now Apr 01 01:11:09 no Apr 01 01:11:22 still kernel ppp/ldisc? Apr 01 01:11:24 on FR we use ppp via libgsm0710mux and a special transport Apr 01 01:11:35 on dream i use rmnet/qmi Apr 01 01:11:40 how do unix apps make socket calls? Apr 01 01:11:57 right, qmi is done with /dev/qmi or a low level userspace implementation? Apr 01 01:12:03 /dev/qmi Apr 01 01:12:07 (we could add packet support to /dev/smd) Apr 01 01:12:07 works fantastic Apr 01 01:12:09 very fast Apr 01 01:12:10 good Apr 01 01:12:13 1 second to hook up Apr 01 01:12:15 yep Apr 01 01:12:16 really amazing Apr 01 01:12:20 much better than ppp Apr 01 01:12:23 all firmwares should do this Apr 01 01:12:26 yeah Apr 01 01:12:32 on pre we have to use ppp Apr 01 01:12:35 since ppp is just de encap'd in the firmware anyway Apr 01 01:12:46 that should change with the new drivers for wifi to work Apr 01 01:12:56 at least optionally, hmm Apr 01 01:13:23 we can thank swetland for rmnet getting used Apr 01 01:13:28 he/they insisted Apr 01 01:13:36 yeah, at least something that's nice Apr 01 01:13:44 as opposed to some more questionable interfaces... Apr 01 01:13:52 rpc is pretty good too Apr 01 01:14:07 compared to winmo stuff at lest Apr 01 01:15:13 you still think you can free the winmobile phones or is that history now? Apr 01 01:15:34 we can but the effort to get everything working is major Apr 01 01:15:44 right Apr 01 01:15:44 and re is probably required in mss Apr 01 01:15:58 that's why i'm concentrating now on dream and palm pre Apr 01 01:16:02 rhod is more worthy but I think I'd rther skip 7k Apr 01 01:16:14 night Apr 01 01:16:18 g'night daniele_athome Apr 01 01:16:23 it's actually working though, but things like audio aren't Apr 01 01:16:34 hmm, it's better than it was Apr 01 01:16:46 now if we could get an android-free kernel and remove these abstractions Apr 01 01:16:54 tssc needs X support too Apr 01 01:18:19 http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/31/samsung-galaxy-s-pro-to-come-with-a-qwerty-keyboard-in-june-say/ Apr 01 01:18:31 http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/31/sharps-snapdragon-powered-android-running-is01-mid-gets-a-hand/ Apr 01 01:18:38 too snappy dream devices Apr 01 01:18:44 ah well Apr 01 01:18:47 pipe dreams about new things Apr 01 01:18:56 i stopped looking at new stuff :) Apr 01 01:18:58 both should have kernel releases Apr 01 01:19:12 and codeaurora is nice enough to release real open drivers for this chip Apr 01 01:19:17 i need to get FSO on a bunch of not-too-old devices otherwise it's dead Apr 01 01:19:19 codeaurora/qualcomm Apr 01 01:23:47 21:22 if it gets my arm11 working as well as a n900 Apr 01 01:23:47 21:22 there's so much to be done on the open linux handheld Apr 01 01:23:47 21:23 X is going to be so much more work than any of this "infrastructure" stuff Apr 01 01:23:51 21:23 system services and launcher could be great Apr 01 01:23:53 oops Apr 01 01:27:45 hmm Apr 01 01:27:55 ok, so i have struct msm_mddi_bridge_platform_data toshiba_client_data = { Apr 01 01:27:57 which has Apr 01 01:28:04 .unblank = trout_mddi_panel_unblank, Apr 01 01:28:18 now i want to create an ioctl in msmfb.c that calls this unblank call Apr 01 01:28:35 struct msm_panel_data *panel = msmfb->panel; Apr 01 01:28:41 is that this platformdata? Apr 01 01:28:47 so i could call panel->unblank() ? Apr 01 01:31:02 msmfb_resume calls panel->resume, i can't find which resume this is Apr 01 01:36:02 ok, i give up Apr 01 01:36:15 leviathan: this is something for you, not me Apr 01 01:38:05 that resume is pm only I think Apr 01 01:38:08 you shouldn't call it Apr 01 01:38:11 hmm Apr 01 01:38:18 that might be mddi resume instead Apr 01 01:38:36 so that's related to power saving on the mddi link **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 01 02:59:57 2010