**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 03 02:59:57 2010
Apr 03 07:43:49 <leviathan> hi
Apr 03 07:44:03 <leviathan> why is git.shr-projects.org down again??
Apr 03 07:44:51 <mrmoku> uh
Apr 03 07:46:04 <mrmoku> leviathan: :(
Apr 03 07:48:31 <leviathan> yes
Apr 03 07:48:40 <leviathan> thats what I  thought first too -.-
Apr 03 07:48:56 <leviathan> I was told the RAM would be replaced??
Apr 03 07:49:09 <leviathan> I know such fall outs from my home workstation
Apr 03 07:49:21 <Wonka> wasn't it runing yesterday?
Apr 03 07:49:22 <leviathan> but a datacenter does have proper cooling
Apr 03 07:49:23 <mrmoku> leviathan: the RAM *was* replaced yes
Apr 03 07:49:23 <Wonka> +n
Apr 03 07:49:40 <mrmoku> which means it has more problems :/ probably
Apr 03 07:49:50 <leviathan> perhaps the blade went into hollydays >_<
Apr 03 07:49:56 <mrmoku> 09:46 < mrmoku> lukhas: ping, new problems with opmbuild?
Apr 03 07:49:56 <mrmoku> 09:47 < ruzarzh> yes, troubles with the datacenter
Apr 03 07:50:41 <mrmoku> yeah, trac is down too
Apr 03 07:50:49 <mrmoku> probably whole bearstech down
Apr 03 07:51:04 <leviathan> server: "Oh, easter. Lets take a day free"
Apr 03 07:51:17 <leviathan> rest of the data center: "Oh yeah! Us too!"
Apr 03 07:51:26 <misc> "sysadmin: yeah, i can place chocolate egg in this rack, good idea" 
Apr 03 07:51:33 <leviathan> lol
Apr 03 07:51:37 <mrmoku> :)
Apr 03 07:51:43 <leviathan> yes other possibility xD
Apr 03 07:52:05 * mrmoku knew we should have moved git :/
Apr 03 07:52:16 <leviathan> :)
Apr 03 07:52:49 <leviathan> as older you get, as more you will get surprised
Apr 03 07:53:03 <leviathan> HOW many stupid creatures can live on one single planet
Apr 03 07:53:04 <leviathan> :)
Apr 03 07:53:18 <misc> this look like a south park episode...
Apr 03 07:53:28 <leviathan> the internet is gone!!
Apr 03 07:57:07 <leviathan> nya
Apr 03 07:57:16 <leviathan> I hope they'll fix it soon
Apr 03 07:57:25 <leviathan> such fallouts are ennoy'n
Apr 03 07:58:04 <spaetz> buildserver gone again?
Apr 03 07:58:17 <Wonka> spaetz: seems like
Apr 03 07:58:35 <spaetz> glad that git replicates the whole thing. we won't lose  the code  at least....
Apr 03 07:58:58 <Wonka> yay for dRCSes
Apr 03 07:59:56 <mrmoku> spaetz: whole datacenter
Apr 03 08:00:04 <mrmoku> this time trac is affected too
Apr 03 08:00:14 <spaetz> ohh shit.
Apr 03 08:00:19 <spaetz> that hurts
Apr 03 08:00:40 <spaetz> someone is not going to have a quiet easter weekend
Apr 03 08:03:03 <mrmoku> heh yes
Apr 03 08:47:12 <mrmoku> buildhost is back
Apr 03 09:03:40 <leviathan> yeaaha
Apr 03 09:19:47 <leviathan> ok
Apr 03 09:19:57 <leviathan> I need to go and eat with relatives
Apr 03 09:20:02 <leviathan> I'll be back soon
Apr 03 09:20:03 <leviathan> :)
Apr 03 09:20:04 <leviathan> cu
Apr 03 09:21:56 <mrmoku> mickeyl: hmm... org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.GetType is not annotated to be async... and indeed in libfso-glib there is no _finish function for it
Apr 03 09:22:00 <mrmoku> mickeyl: error in specs only?
Apr 03 10:27:40 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: libfso-glib does what the specs instruct it to do
Apr 03 10:27:47 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: please add the async annotation
Apr 03 10:27:54 <mickey|zzZZzz> then the finish will appear
Apr 03 10:28:24 <mickey|zzZZzz> GNUtoo: i'm afraid the unblank is called too early. we have a nice race condition now
Apr 03 10:28:43 <GNUtoo> mickey|zzZZzz, ?
Apr 03 10:28:51 <mickey|zzZZzz> http://pastebin.ca/1855389
Apr 03 10:28:59 <mickey|zzZZzz> this is what happened yesterday night to me
Apr 03 10:29:03 <mickey|zzZZzz> one or two times it works
Apr 03 10:29:06 <mickey|zzZZzz> then it goes crazy
Apr 03 10:30:51 <GNUtoo> I'll try again
Apr 03 10:31:05 <GNUtoo> this is using what access method?
Apr 03 10:31:21 <GNUtoo> the ioctl? or the echo on > /sys/power/state
Apr 03 10:32:04 <mickey|zzZZzz> echo on 
Apr 03 10:32:13 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 10:32:21 <mickey|zzZZzz> thanks for looking into this, i feel we're close
Apr 03 10:32:34 <mickey|zzZZzz> i still need to check why it works without our patches in Xfbdev though
Apr 03 10:32:45 <mickey|zzZZzz> if you have an image where it works w/ Xfbdev, I'd like to try that eventually
Apr 03 10:32:50 <mickey|zzZZzz> on more to think about: there _could_ be another reason, perhaps we're changing backlight and drawing too early after suspend, but then again, how shall userland know when it can start to function again?
Apr 03 10:32:55 <GNUtoo> mickey|zzZZzz, ahh did you remove the CONSOLE_EARLY_SUSPEND?
Apr 03 10:33:04 <GNUtoo> and set screen access to none?
Apr 03 10:33:10 <mickey|zzZZzz> first not
Apr 03 10:33:12 <mickey|zzZZzz> then i got the pastebin
Apr 03 10:33:18 <mickey|zzZZzz> 2nd try i set it to no
Apr 03 10:33:23 <mickey|zzZZzz> then it worked flawlessly twice in a row
Apr 03 10:33:24 <GNUtoo> ok,should I remove the option in Kconfig?
Apr 03 10:33:25 <mickey|zzZZzz> and then i got a full hang
Apr 03 10:33:52 <mickey|zzZZzz> lets wait until we're sure we have it fixed without
Apr 03 10:34:04 <mickey|zzZZzz> there can be heaps of race conditions in that code
Apr 03 10:34:14 <mickey|zzZZzz> so if all else fails, we need to revert and find out how X does it
Apr 03 10:34:26 <mickey|zzZZzz> but i still believe we can find it
Apr 03 10:34:40 <mickey|zzZZzz> anyways, need to do some family duties, will be back in a couple of hours to hack on :)
Apr 03 10:34:44 <mickey|zzZZzz> good luck
Apr 03 10:35:33 <GNUtoo> mickey|zzZZzz, I'll look if it does it for me,but I suspect that it's a race between screen access and what we do
Apr 03 10:38:30 <mickey|zzZZzz> ok, when i'm back I will try without zhone2, but only setting console in graphic mode, then noone tries to access it. that way we could check whether the race condition is in our patch.
Apr 03 10:46:11 <GNUtoo> mickey|zzZZzz, should be that option,I got it working 5/6 times without issues,waiting less than one second between suspend and resume
Apr 03 10:46:17 <GNUtoo> no crash so far
Apr 03 10:49:22 <mrmoku> mickey|zzZZzz: ok, will do
Apr 03 10:50:55 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07specs * r6501d9a86825 10/org.freesmartphone.PIM/org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.xml.in: 
Apr 03 10:50:55 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: PIM.Fields: correctly annotate GetType as async
Apr 03 10:50:55 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Apr 03 10:59:08 <GNUtoo> mickey|zzZZzz, ok I got a trace,when comming back from eating
Apr 03 11:16:45 <GNUtoo> mickey|zzZZzz, maybe I got it
Apr 03 11:17:04 <GNUtoo> mickey|zzZZzz, ioctl + suspend at the same time seem to triger the issue
Apr 03 12:09:25 <mrmoku> mickeyl: with fsogsmd the send_text_message thing handles splitting and encoding too, right?
Apr 03 12:10:44 <mickeyl> correct
Apr 03 12:10:51 <mrmoku> good :)
Apr 03 12:11:00 <mrmoku> TAsn: will drop your sms artwork now ;)
Apr 03 12:11:00 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 03 12:11:17 <mickeyl> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS is a nice high level interface now
Apr 03 12:11:38 <mrmoku> reusing some ofono stuff IIRC :P
Apr 03 12:12:55 <mickeyl> yes
Apr 03 12:13:10 <mickeyl> the itchy details of pdu format conversion are handled with their code
Apr 03 12:20:19 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r61ac07a8c6df 10/fsogsmd/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: prepare for handling unsolicited responses
Apr 03 12:34:06 <mrmoku> dos1: care to fix your connectivity pleas? :P
Apr 03 12:34:58 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, fixed with the help of a friend,will push soon
Apr 03 12:35:08 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: super!!!
Apr 03 12:35:13 <mickeyl> thanks
Apr 03 12:36:57 <mickeyl> ok, let me check TAsn's bugs against fsodeviced now
Apr 03 12:37:32 <dos1> shit, i thought i already fixed it...
Apr 03 12:37:54 <dos1> hmm
Apr 03 12:38:07 <dos1> i'm connected to my router. so looks like something is wrong with my ISP
Apr 03 12:45:03 <[Rui]> hi, there are a few red flag warning in my upgrade that just finished, related to alsa and mesa packages
Apr 03 12:45:57 <[Rui]> http://pastebin.com/q4QwjduV some look scary
Apr 03 12:46:08 <[Rui]> anything I should do before reboot?
Apr 03 12:46:20 <[Rui]> dos1: hi! how're you doing? :)
Apr 03 12:50:49 <dos1> [Rui]: i'm fighting with my internet connection :P
Apr 03 12:51:10 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, pushed
Apr 03 12:51:29 <[Rui]> dos1: that sucks :|
Apr 03 12:51:50 <GNUtoo> [Rui], maybe try to do that:
Apr 03 12:52:13 <GNUtoo> opkg update --force-overwrite
Apr 03 12:52:18 <GNUtoo> oops
Apr 03 12:52:18 <[Rui]> GNUtoo: oops, too late, I rebooted already :) I hope it all works out ok and then I'll fix it afterwards...
Apr 03 12:52:21 <GNUtoo> opkg upgrade
Apr 03 12:52:25 <GNUtoo> --force-overwrite
Apr 03 12:52:28 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 12:53:29 <GNUtoo> [Rui], I don't remember well,but at fosdem didn't you seem interested by the htcdream?
Apr 03 12:54:09 <[Rui]> GNUtoo: I'm interested in knowing that there's a future free phone if my Freerunner dies and there are no more Freerunners around :)
Apr 03 12:54:17 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 12:54:31 <[Rui]> GNUtoo: how are your efforts going with the htc dream?
Apr 03 12:54:54 <GNUtoo> we will reach the state of a working non-smart phone soon
Apr 03 12:55:09 <GNUtoo> http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream is down for me
Apr 03 12:55:16 <GNUtoo> can't update the page
Apr 03 12:55:26 <[Rui]> ouchie... X doesn't start anymore
Apr 03 12:55:27 <GNUtoo> but we are working on alsa routing and suspend right now
Apr 03 12:55:37 <GNUtoo> so we will have:
Apr 03 12:55:41 <GNUtoo> *suspend 
Apr 03 12:55:48 <GNUtoo> *mono sound
Apr 03 12:55:52 <GNUtoo> *phone
Apr 03 12:56:01 <GNUtoo> wifi is currently broken
Apr 03 12:56:16 <GNUtoo> worked before the jump to the new kernel
Apr 03 12:56:30 <GNUtoo> we use 2.6.32
Apr 03 12:58:21 <[Rui]> so it seems like the Freerunner is working better, right now :)
Apr 03 12:58:48 <[Rui]> even though I now got the scare that X doesn't load, at least ssh  did.,..
Apr 03 13:00:39 <[Rui]> upgrade --force-overwrite is done, now rebooting...
Apr 03 13:03:30 <[Rui]> yes! working now...
Apr 03 13:06:01 <[Rui]> hms.... it's taking a bit long to ask for pin again... (hasn't yet... for over 5 min)
Apr 03 13:06:40 <JesusMcCloud> [Rui], su you just upgraded an x was dead? (an possibly the race condition again so gsm isnt working?
Apr 03 13:07:31 <JesusMcCloud> [Rui], when did you last upgrade before today?
Apr 03 13:09:10 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: which defconfig shall i now use? all user space screen access disabled or with earlysuspend=y?
Apr 03 13:09:12 <[Rui]> 1st of April
Apr 03 13:09:25 <JesusMcCloud> ok
Apr 03 13:09:42 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: after opkg upgrade --force-overwrite it went back into X but pim hasn't yet been asked for over 9 min now
Apr 03 13:10:07 <JesusMcCloud> [Rui], do the windows maneuver ;-)
Apr 03 13:10:23 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: I'm restarting fso services 1 by 1
Apr 03 13:10:38 <JesusMcCloud> ok, might aswell work
Apr 03 13:11:05 <[Rui]> restarting framework seemed to have done the trick
Apr 03 13:11:48 <JesusMcCloud> nice
Apr 03 13:11:52 <[Rui]> no alsa profiles in /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default !!!!!!!!!
Apr 03 13:12:46 <JesusMcCloud> [Rui], didn they move some tiem ago ?
Apr 03 13:12:52 <[Rui]> are they now here? /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/alsa-default
Apr 03 13:13:04 <mrmoku> yep
Apr 03 13:13:06 <JesusMcCloud> sth like that
Apr 03 13:13:41 <[Rui]> ok, my bad then... got to go out, bbl :)
Apr 03 13:13:44 <[Rui]> thank you guys!
Apr 03 13:13:44 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, how's number selection going (if a contact has e.g. home phone and work phone?
Apr 03 13:13:58 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: what do you mean?
Apr 03 13:14:16 <mrmoku> I mean... number selection is there already
Apr 03 13:14:48 <JesusMcCloud> cool
Apr 03 13:15:00 <mrmoku> needs some rework to show the field name too though
Apr 03 13:15:04 <mrmoku> but works
Apr 03 13:16:36 <JesusMcCloud> YESSSS!!! just tried, awesome (it woudl be more awesome if a hoversel was used, but i am not sure if this si possible since it woudl pop up even, if the contact has only one number...
Apr 03 13:18:07 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: you would prefer to get the selection even if there is only one number?
Apr 03 13:18:52 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, no i wouldnt, the best thing would be if there is only hoversel if multiple numbers are present, but i'm arfraid this would be to tricky
Apr 03 13:19:02 <JesusMcCloud> or hackish
Apr 03 13:19:53 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: I did an inwin, because that can just be used everywhere... for example for writing an sms you already have the button inside a hoversell
Apr 03 13:20:10 <mrmoku> opening another one when pressing that feels strange
Apr 03 13:21:12 <JesusMcCloud> inwin is ok, i mean it works... i guess its a matter of taste
Apr 03 13:34:50 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, set screen accesws to none
Apr 03 13:43:10 <mrmoku> mickeyl: hmm... org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetEntry is no more in the API... what to use instead now?
Apr 03 13:43:42 <mrmoku> mickeyl: nvm... RetrievePhonebook gives me a single one too
Apr 03 14:01:49 <mrmoku> mickeyl: is there some special thing to say 'I want the full phonebook' for RetrievePhonebook or do I have to find out the correct index via GetSimInfo first?
Apr 03 14:05:39 <mickeyl> mrmoku: you can cheat...
Apr 03 14:05:52 <mickeyl> try giving 1000 
Apr 03 14:12:45 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r970a7b05868c 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/unsolicited.vala: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: use handwritten to_string method for now
Apr 03 14:12:46 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf6a44b2aa143 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (kernel_input/plugin.vala router_alsa/plugin.vala): fsodeviced: router_alsa: skip empty lines and comment lines in scenario files
Apr 03 14:17:20 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ok... will cheat :)
Apr 03 14:17:32 <mrmoku> and start is 1, right?
Apr 03 14:21:22 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, can I check in the screen access config?
Apr 03 14:21:57 <GNUtoo> and some fixes for your image,the one you told me to do the other day
Apr 03 14:28:42 <mickeyl> mrmoku: yes, start is always 1
Apr 03 14:29:11 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: i'm currently playing with master + earlysuspend and depsite some small timeouts once and then, it looks awesome
Apr 03 14:29:37 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 14:29:46 <mickeyl> now that you know the backlight / panel code so well, could you fix the 100% issue? ;)
Apr 03 14:29:51 <mickeyl> (sorry, always bothering you...)
Apr 03 14:30:55 <GNUtoo> lol,I'll try
Apr 03 14:30:59 <mickeyl> :))
Apr 03 14:31:01 <GNUtoo> but maybe not at once
Apr 03 14:31:05 <mickeyl> sure
Apr 03 14:31:16 * mickeyl tries to resume after 30 minutes suspend
Apr 03 14:31:38 <GNUtoo> does it work after the 30 min of suspend?
Apr 03 14:31:40 <mickeyl> interesting
Apr 03 14:31:46 <mickeyl> it takes 1 or 2 seconds
Apr 03 14:31:51 <mickeyl> and emits a timeout
Apr 03 14:31:51 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 14:31:54 <mickeyl> but then it comes back to live
Apr 03 14:31:55 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 03 14:32:13 <GNUtoo> I feared that it didn't work for a moment
Apr 03 14:32:27 <mickeyl> no, works really well right now. 
Apr 03 14:32:34 <mickeyl> tomorrow i will take a look how many hours of suspend we get
Apr 03 14:32:37 <mickeyl> with zhone2 running
Apr 03 14:32:43 <mickeyl> and being camped to network
Apr 03 14:33:01 <mickeyl> i hope leviathan can finally fix audio now :)
Apr 03 14:33:10 <mickeyl> then we have our featurephone ;)
Apr 03 14:33:21 <mickeyl> tethering works also fine
Apr 03 14:35:28 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: feel free to push the fixes, but lets use the current defconfig for a while
Apr 03 14:36:53 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, also for me the screen comes back every minute
Apr 03 14:36:59 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, not in suspend tough
Apr 03 14:37:23 <GNUtoo> mickeyl,I bet it's because the clock tick and so the screen content changes
Apr 03 14:37:34 <mickeyl> interesting, that doesn't happen here
Apr 03 14:38:02 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I've an old zhone2
Apr 03 14:38:29 <mickeyl> i will work on an updated image where no manual work is necessary
Apr 03 14:38:47 <mickeyl> some startup fixes
Apr 03 14:39:47 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 14:39:58 <GNUtoo> I will push the fix for the .desktop files
Apr 03 14:40:06 <mickeyl> thanks
Apr 03 14:40:14 <mickeyl> btw., i really wonder how much it downclocks
Apr 03 14:40:19 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 14:40:21 <mickeyl> as i can still play audio and stuff in suspend
Apr 03 14:40:26 <GNUtoo> wow
Apr 03 14:40:26 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 03 14:40:36 <mickeyl> perhaps we can configure this somewhere
Apr 03 14:42:11 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, cd /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq
Apr 03 14:45:13 <mickeyl> ooh!
Apr 03 14:45:29 <mickeyl> awesome
Apr 03 14:45:36 <mickeyl> root@htcdream:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq# cat stats/time_in_state 
Apr 03 14:45:36 <mickeyl> 122880 446381
Apr 03 14:45:36 <mickeyl> 128000 0
Apr 03 14:45:36 <mickeyl> 245760 94
Apr 03 14:45:36 <mickeyl> 384000 208
Apr 03 14:45:36 <mickeyl> 528000 2904
Apr 03 14:45:47 <mickeyl> so minimum is 122MHz
Apr 03 14:46:09 <mickeyl> aah, and it scales on demand
Apr 03 14:46:12 <mickeyl> splendid
Apr 03 14:46:32 <mickeyl> i wonder whether this is standard mainline cpufreq or something special
Apr 03 14:48:49 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra3430cd37041 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/router_alsa/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: router_alsa: fix last commit
Apr 03 14:54:22 <blindcoder> hey mickeyl. sorry, T-Mobile sent me the G2 aka HTC Hero instead of the G1 aka HTC Dream
Apr 03 14:54:37 <blindcoder> freaking piece of shit doesn't even have a hardware keyboard
Apr 03 14:55:01 <mickeyl> argh
Apr 03 14:55:05 <mickeyl> :/
Apr 03 14:55:24 <mickeyl> oh well, you can check whether our work applies to the Hero then ;)
Apr 03 14:55:33 <blindcoder> just tell me how :)
Apr 03 14:55:35 <mickeyl> you'll be a lonely rider though
Apr 03 14:55:45 <blindcoder> thought so
Apr 03 14:55:59 <blindcoder> I mean, hey, Wifi is even less reliable than on the FR :P
Apr 03 14:56:05 <mickeyl> well, first you need to jailbreak it, i have no idea how though
Apr 03 14:56:35 <mickeyl> right now we're using fastboot to boot our own stuff, but that only works with an engineering bootloader (at least on dream)
Apr 03 14:57:43 <blindcoder> okay, I'll have a look around
Apr 03 14:57:48 <mickeyl> good luck
Apr 03 14:57:58 <blindcoder> if push comes to shove, at least my FR is now 99.7% buzzfree :)
Apr 03 14:58:03 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 03 15:03:52 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r87d8e192300a 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: use shell parsing for interactive mode; this fixes FSO #526
Apr 03 15:10:32 <GNUtoo> blindcoder, ouch
Apr 03 15:10:42 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: ah, something more when you have a chance... please remove spotlight led
Apr 03 15:10:48 <mickeyl> has never made it into production devices :(
Apr 03 15:10:52 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 15:10:56 <GNUtoo> I'll go now
Apr 03 15:11:01 <mickeyl> cu, thanks a lot
Apr 03 15:15:52 <Martix> ~seen Ghiottone
Apr 03 15:15:55 <apt> ghiottone <n=ale@213.158.72.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 449d 3h 7m 46s ago, saying: 'gfather, I have yet to see an official mail though. so there's hope'.
Apr 03 15:18:17 <mrmoku> heh... quite some time ago :P
Apr 03 15:23:34 <leviathan> mickeyl: re
Apr 03 15:23:36 <leviathan> we've got a problem
Apr 03 15:23:41 <leviathan> strace doesnt compile somehow...
Apr 03 15:26:58 <mickeyl> compiles fine here, how does it bail out?
Apr 03 15:30:40 <tmzt_> blindcoder: start with #android-root and get root access
Apr 03 15:30:50 <tmzt_> and flash a recovery with fastboot support or similar
Apr 03 15:31:02 <tmzt_> I don't think there's a engboot image for hero but I could b wrong
Apr 03 15:32:48 <blindcoder> tmzt_: alright, I'll keep that in mind for when the other person in this house doesn't call for me every 5 seconds *grumble*
Apr 03 15:37:22 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3a149d06f8c4 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_htc/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_htc: register suspend and resume commands
Apr 03 15:38:08 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * re3fcb57675f7 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
Apr 03 15:38:08 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.Usage: add Resume() call
Apr 03 15:38:08 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: NOTE: This is only useful on systems that don't halt the main CPU during suspend
Apr 03 15:40:50 <leviathan> mickeyl: http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~davidlan/downloads/log.do_compile.21263
Apr 03 15:41:34 <GNUtoo> leviathan, hi
Apr 03 15:41:38 <leviathan> GNUtoo: hi
Apr 03 15:41:59 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I'm back,sport was closed even if they didn't told on their website or that I didn't saw it
Apr 03 15:42:06 <GNUtoo> so spotlight...
Apr 03 15:42:17 <mickeyl> ah, bummer :)
Apr 03 15:42:36 <leviathan> oh, you do sports?
Apr 03 15:42:37 <leviathan> ok
Apr 03 15:42:44 <leviathan> I stopped doing so
Apr 03 15:42:49 <mickeyl> hmm, never seen it failing like that
Apr 03 15:42:53 <leviathan> because I do have no reason for
Apr 03 15:42:59 <leviathan> mickeyl: hmm
Apr 03 15:43:06 <mickeyl> outcomment it for now
Apr 03 15:43:11 <leviathan> where?
Apr 03 15:43:17 <mickeyl> task-cli-tools
Apr 03 15:43:28 <mickeyl> tasks/task-cli-tools.bb
Apr 03 15:44:01 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rb1a73f77839f 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/dbus_service/ (commands.vala plugin.vala): fsousaged: add Resume() command
Apr 03 15:44:25 <leviathan> ok
Apr 03 15:45:15 <GNUtoo> I hope that some fso things are autorev in oe
Apr 03 15:45:34 <GNUtoo> because I've an issue with input.directional_event.connect
Apr 03 15:45:57 <GNUtoo> in zhone2-2.0.0+gitr1+7e4d3ebcc98ab76b09a640d2c54ed3c632a1a46a-r0
Apr 03 15:45:59 <mickeyl> by default nothing is autorev in OE
Apr 03 15:46:03 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 15:46:09 <mickeyl> for fso2-demo-image you need to 
Apr 03 15:46:15 <mickeyl> require conf/distro/include/fso-autorev.inc
Apr 03 15:46:20 <GNUtoo> ahh ok
Apr 03 15:46:31 <mickeyl> things change so fast in this state, i don't update the sane-srcrevs
Apr 03 15:46:37 <GNUtoo> I bet in local.conf
Apr 03 15:46:38 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 15:46:41 <mickeyl> yes, local.conf
Apr 03 15:48:38 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, where is spotlight? ctrl+f doesn't find it
Apr 03 15:48:46 <GNUtoo> maybe grep on .config
Apr 03 15:49:31 <GNUtoo> ah in board-trout
Apr 03 15:51:34 <GNUtoo> (for autorev I thought that it was up to the distro to choose it)
Apr 03 15:52:16 <GNUtoo> (obviously no autorev in angstrom nor srcpv,because of multiple builders at different place in the world)
Apr 03 15:52:29 <mickeyl> yeah
Apr 03 15:52:31 <GNUtoo> (but shr used autorev at some point)
Apr 03 15:56:11 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rcc9aa1096509 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/utilities.vala: libfsobasics: add createDirectory method
Apr 03 15:57:54 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * reb075d098faa 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/dbus_service/resource.vala: fsousaged: don't try to disable a shadow resource; you will fail
Apr 03 15:58:09 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: we use autorev almost exclusively for our phone stack these days.. which is phonefsod, phoneuid, libphone-ui, libphone-ui-shr and some others
Apr 03 15:59:23 <GNUtoo> ok pushed
Apr 03 15:59:26 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, ok
Apr 03 16:01:36 <mickeyl> thanks
Apr 03 16:01:42 <mickeyl> kernel is getting better every day
Apr 03 16:03:08 <tmzt_> g1 or fr?
Apr 03 16:05:36 <mickeyl> g1
Apr 03 16:06:28 <mickeyl> audio, wifi, bt, gps -- is that our list of shortterm tasks atm. or am i missing some?
Apr 03 16:10:21 <tmzt_> wifi doesn't work?
Apr 03 16:10:34 <tmzt_> it might just be the wl12xx driver is not very stable
Apr 03 16:20:23 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, gps reverse engineering is not on my tasks but on #htc-linux's
Apr 03 16:21:13 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I document our work here: http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream
Apr 03 16:21:41 <tmzt_> yeah, it's cr2's thing
Apr 03 16:21:50 <tmzt_> is bt working?
Apr 03 16:22:32 <mickeyl> tmzt_: unfortunately not
Apr 03 16:22:37 <mickeyl> there were reports about it being working
Apr 03 16:22:45 <tmzt_> non hsuart isn't either?
Apr 03 16:22:45 <mickeyl> but noone has been able to reproduce that with the current kernel
Apr 03 16:24:18 <mickeyl> not sure atm. 
Apr 03 16:24:20 <mickeyl> how would i try?
Apr 03 16:25:55 <tmzt_> first would be if hciattach locks up
Apr 03 16:26:05 <tmzt_> but I would ask cr2 I think he knows more about this
Apr 03 16:26:10 <tmzt_> if you're still in channel
Apr 03 16:26:21 <mickeyl> i am, but he's not :)
Apr 03 16:31:31 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 03 16:31:50 <leviathan> wl12xx has very strange issues
Apr 03 16:31:51 <leviathan> ...
Apr 03 16:40:49 <TAsn> mrmoku, what sms artwork?
Apr 03 16:42:13 <TAsn> mrmoku, ping
Apr 03 16:43:09 <TAsn> mickeyl, thanks, will test in a moment ;P
Apr 03 16:45:36 <mickeyl> ok
Apr 03 16:45:41 <mickeyl> i could not reproduce your other problem :/
Apr 03 16:46:13 <TAsn> mickeyl, I'm talking about the case when you don't have configs anywhere
Apr 03 16:46:17 <TAsn> but the default shipped path
Apr 03 16:46:18 <TAsn> i.e
Apr 03 16:46:31 <TAsn> /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/alsa-default/gsmhandset
Apr 03 16:46:32 <dos1> mrmoku: if now it won't disconnect me again, then it was forgotten neo connected to wifi obtaining the same IP as my laptop ;x
Apr 03 16:46:54 <TAsn> in that case fsodeviced updates this file on "save scenario"
Apr 03 16:47:00 <mickeyl> ooooh
Apr 03 16:47:02 <TAsn> instead of creating a new file in the non-default place
Apr 03 16:47:08 <mickeyl> you want userconfigs somewhere else
Apr 03 16:47:12 <mickeyl> i understand now
Apr 03 16:47:17 <mickeyl> need to think about that
Apr 03 16:47:31 <TAsn> mickeyl, exactly, I want that when you save, even though there are no user configs
Apr 03 16:47:39 <TAsn> you will create them
Apr 03 16:47:57 <TAsn> We can in theory create our own user configs and ship them, but this still won't fix the general fso "issues".
Apr 03 16:47:58 <mrmoku> TAsn: pong
Apr 03 16:47:59 <TAsn> *issue
Apr 03 16:48:06 <TAsn> mrmoku, hey, mind bumping fsodeviced ? :P
Apr 03 16:48:06 <mrmoku> TAsn: sms sending with splitting and encoding
Apr 03 16:48:08 <TAsn> (latest)
Apr 03 16:48:27 <TAsn> mrmoku, are you kidding? :(
Apr 03 16:48:35 <mrmoku> why?
Apr 03 16:48:37 <TAsn> mrmoku, they implemented it completely on their own in fsogsmd? :P
Apr 03 16:48:45 * TAsn is sad :P
Apr 03 16:48:45 <mrmoku> sure
Apr 03 16:48:50 <TAsn> well, only makes sense.
Apr 03 16:49:01 <TAsn> mrmoku, drop it :P
Apr 03 16:49:06 <mrmoku> already done ;)
Apr 03 16:49:11 <TAsn> mrmoku, anyhow, please upgrade fsodeviced 
Apr 03 16:49:16 <TAsn> I want to test mickey's fix :P
Apr 03 16:49:28 <dos1> is SHR now using fsogsmd? :o
Apr 03 16:49:36 <mrmoku> dos1: not yet
Apr 03 16:49:42 <mrmoku> but I'm preparing
Apr 03 16:49:46 <mrmoku> (in branches)
Apr 03 16:49:57 <dos1> ok then. i couldn't stand it if i missed such thing ;)
Apr 03 16:50:27 <TAsn> dos1, hehe :P
Apr 03 16:50:59 <dos1> hmm
Apr 03 16:51:05 <dos1> easter now... maybe it's time to upgrade
Apr 03 16:51:43 <dos1> i still don't have new opimd ;o
Apr 03 16:51:59 <TAsn> dos1, die :P
Apr 03 16:52:01 <mrmoku> mickeyl: it's ok to set rev for fsodeviced to a3430cd370417ce5f9a42377cb43b205c9f4b1e0
Apr 03 16:52:05 <mrmoku> ?
Apr 03 16:52:10 <TAsn> mrmoku, to latest, yeah, it's fine :P
Apr 03 16:52:29 <TAsn> <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: mickey cornucopia * ra3430cd37041 /fsodeviced/src/plugins/router_alsa/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: router_alsa: fix last commit
Apr 03 16:52:32 <TAsn> mrmoku, I need this one... :)
Apr 03 16:52:34 <dos1> TAsn: well, my phone worked really stable last months at least ;)
Apr 03 16:52:43 <mrmoku> TAsn: I'm asking the maintainer... not you ;)
Apr 03 16:52:59 <TAsn> who the hell cares about stability in a mobile phone? :P
Apr 03 16:53:17 <dos1> TAsn: and i haven't much time to fix it after upgrade. but now... maybe i'll look at what you broke ;)
Apr 03 16:53:50 <TAsn> dos1, broke everything beautifully :P
Apr 03 16:53:57 <dos1> ;)
Apr 03 16:54:06 <mrmoku> mickeyl: or better set complete cornucopia to eb075d098faa26d79b5a527b893d33eb0120f26e ?
Apr 03 16:55:02 <mickeyl> mrmoku: yes, should not hurt. note that you need to bump fso-specs then as well
Apr 03 16:55:14 <mrmoku> ok
Apr 03 16:56:40 <mrmoku> mickeyl: and for libfso-glib it's enough to just bump PR, right?
Apr 03 16:57:05 <mickeyl> yes, if it's reasonable current, then just bump it to get it to rebuild from specs
Apr 03 16:57:12 <mickeyl> it no longer contains .vala files
Apr 03 16:57:20 <mrmoku> yep
Apr 03 16:57:24 <mickeyl> (finally...)
Apr 03 17:01:38 <mrmoku> TAsn: bumped and pushed... can't build though as family is waiting for dinner - convince dos1 ;)
Apr 03 17:01:41 <mrmoku> bbl
Apr 03 17:02:15 <TAsn> mrmoku, thanks. :P
Apr 03 17:02:18 <TAsn> dos1, please build it. :P
Apr 03 17:02:29 <dos1> hmmmm
Apr 03 17:02:35 <dos1> i'll try
Apr 03 17:02:36 <dos1> :D
Apr 03 17:03:47 <dos1> TAsn: bitbake fsodeviced?
Apr 03 17:04:09 <TAsn> dos1, wait for mrmoku :P
Apr 03 17:04:28 <TAsn> You need to build fsodeviced and whatever mickey stated :P
Apr 03 17:04:36 <dos1> TAsn: too late :P
Apr 03 17:05:02 <TAsn> haha, cool enough :P
Apr 03 17:05:12 <TAsn> just let me know when I can upgrade.
Apr 03 17:13:56 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5a72f76bfc0f 10/fsousaged/ (5 files in 5 dirs): fsousaged: fix debug build
Apr 03 17:13:57 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rb54efdcd0c5d 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/commandqueue.vala: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: construct MsmUnsolicitedHandler on demand
Apr 03 17:18:10 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra58a2955d096 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/dbus_service/ (plugin.vala resource.vala): fsousaged: more experimental support for shadow resources
Apr 03 17:35:33 <dos1> TAsn: ERROR: 'RDEPENDS_wpa-supplicant-doc' while parsing /home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/wpa-supplicant/wpa-supplicant_0.5.10.bb
Apr 03 17:38:20 <TAsn> dos1, all I wanted was fsodeviced :P
Apr 03 17:38:21 <dos1> TAsn: o_O now it works
Apr 03 17:38:24 <TAsn> dos1, :)
Apr 03 17:38:28 <dos1> TAsn: it was while parsing :P
Apr 03 17:38:51 <dos1> TAsn: and i haven't done anything, just restarted it - and it works now ;o
Apr 03 17:39:00 <TAsn> dos1, let me know when I can get it :P
Apr 03 17:47:06 <TAsn> dos1, I don't want to push my luck, but what about country selector in shr-wizard (and allowing all the chars I told you about in the phone-utils section)? :P
Apr 03 17:50:16 <TAsn> brb
Apr 03 17:51:56 <TAsn> back.
Apr 03 17:59:39 <leviathan> GNUtoo: we need to contact cr2 and tmzt for wifi
Apr 03 17:59:56 <leviathan> I fear its much deeper in our kernel then I understand msm platform :(
Apr 03 18:00:09 <tmzt_> me?
Apr 03 18:00:14 <leviathan> jup
Apr 03 18:00:30 <leviathan> because it seems a serious problem
Apr 03 18:00:46 <leviathan> I checked the last know working version against our actual version
Apr 03 18:00:48 <tmzt_> aren't there already patches for using tiwlan with cfg80211?
Apr 03 18:00:51 <tmzt_> or iw80211
Apr 03 18:00:56 <tmzt_> iwext
Apr 03 18:01:19 <leviathan> the critical parts do not differ from the last known as working version
Apr 03 18:01:30 <leviathan> so we have some ugly clinche deep in the basecode
Apr 03 18:01:33 <leviathan> we need to finde
Apr 03 18:01:34 <leviathan> ...
Apr 03 18:01:36 <tmzt_> what kernel version?
Apr 03 18:01:48 <leviathan> 2.6.32
Apr 03 18:02:16 <leviathan> http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commits/msm-gnuconform
Apr 03 18:02:25 <tmzt_> ah
Apr 03 18:02:35 <tmzt_> but isn't that wl12xx?
Apr 03 18:03:49 <leviathan> yes
Apr 03 18:04:31 <leviathan> http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/trees/msm-gnuconform/drivers/net/wireless/wl12xx
Apr 03 18:11:13 <GNUtoo> leviathan, ok
Apr 03 18:11:19 <dos1> TAsn: do you want me to sync? cause it's done :P
Apr 03 18:11:27 <TAsn> dos1, yes please :P
Apr 03 18:11:41 <dos1> synced :P
Apr 03 18:11:55 <TAsn> thanks
Apr 03 18:11:55 <soltys> will it work ?:)
Apr 03 18:12:41 <Gabrys> you never know ;-)
Apr 03 18:13:47 <TAsn> soltys, talking about the sync?
Apr 03 18:13:56 <soltys> yeap
Apr 03 18:15:18 <TAsn> yeah! :P
Apr 03 18:15:20 <TAsn> mickey|dinner, thanks.
Apr 03 18:15:57 <TAsn> and profile came back :P
Apr 03 18:15:58 <TAsn> weepee
Apr 03 18:16:01 <mickey|dinner> :)
Apr 03 18:16:02 <TAsn> what a nice upgrade :)
Apr 03 18:16:03 <mickey|dinner> good
Apr 03 18:19:59 <JesusMcCloud> aloha
Apr 03 18:20:29 <GNUtoo> TAsn, profile? you had profile problems? like enlightenment profile?
Apr 03 18:20:53 <TAsn> GNUtoo, no
Apr 03 18:20:57 <TAsn>  /etc/profile
Apr 03 18:21:08 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 18:28:13 <JesusMcCloud> gtk really sucks on freerunner! im using pidgin on freerunner here - it is a pain!
Apr 03 18:28:37 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, :P
Apr 03 18:28:43 <TAsn> You are mostly right.
Apr 03 18:29:34 <JesusMcCloud> typing is fine with my kbd layout, but gtk is sooooo slow!!!
Apr 03 18:30:01 <TAsn> yeah, it is. :|
Apr 03 18:31:12 <JesusMcCloud> isnt there some badass elm based irc client? (btw TAsn you are pink in pidgin)
Apr 03 18:31:34 <TAsn> pidgin doesn't like me. :|
Apr 03 18:32:45 <JesusMcCloud> ... maybe it especially likes you...
Apr 03 18:32:49 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, there's e-empathy or something like that.
Apr 03 18:32:53 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, probably :P
Apr 03 18:34:34 <JesusMcCloud> but not in feed i suspect (checking..)
Apr 03 18:35:20 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, not under that name
Apr 03 18:35:28 <TAsn> But I really remember something
Apr 03 18:36:50 <JesusMcCloud> hmm... i will check when in Vienna 
Apr 03 18:50:07 <TAsn> I played with the nexus one a bit
Apr 03 18:50:08 <TAsn> today
Apr 03 18:50:41 <TAsn> It's nice
Apr 03 18:50:47 <TAsn> they changed a lot of the UI
Apr 03 18:51:08 <JesusMcCloud> nexus one?
Apr 03 18:51:17 <TAsn> the google phone
Apr 03 18:51:38 <JesusMcCloud> ahh i remember
Apr 03 18:53:09 <sybren> hey guys
Apr 03 18:53:24 <sybren> I can't seem to be able to turn off auto-suspend on SHR-t
Apr 03 18:53:36 <sybren> is this a known issue?
Apr 03 18:54:09 <JesusMcCloud> personally i dont care about googlephone, i want shr omupalm pre!
Apr 03 18:54:44 <TAsn> sybren, quick-settings method doesn't work?
Apr 03 18:55:03 <JesusMcCloud> ~lart on screen keyboards
Apr 03 18:55:03 * apt takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays on screen keyboards in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed
Apr 03 18:55:55 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, I also don't care about the googlephone
Apr 03 18:56:01 <TAsn> though I wanted to see what they've done.
Apr 03 18:56:03 <sybren> TAsn: what's the quick-settings method?
Apr 03 18:56:08 <TAsn> And they did make a solid device.
Apr 03 18:56:14 <TAsn> sybren, do it in quick-settings :P
Apr 03 18:56:28 <TAsn> sybren, how did you try to turn it off? :P
Apr 03 18:56:37 <sybren> shr-settings -> power
Apr 03 18:56:58 <TAsn> sybren, no idea about that, don't do it from there
Apr 03 18:57:04 <TAsn> it's better to click the power button
Apr 03 18:57:09 <TAsn> and change there.
Apr 03 18:57:40 <sybren> TAsn: then I get Suspend/Lock/Power off/Close/Home/Cancel
Apr 03 18:57:47 <sybren> but no auto-suspend setting
Apr 03 18:57:55 <JesusMcCloud> i liked androids "rosie" UI or whatever it was called
Apr 03 18:58:58 <TAsn> sybren, be honest
Apr 03 18:59:03 <TAsn> when did you last upgrade your phone? :P
Apr 03 18:59:11 <sybren> TAsn: few days ago
Apr 03 18:59:27 <TAsn> spaetz, you didn't upgrade e-wm-config-illume-shr? 
Apr 03 18:59:56 <TAsn> spaetz, oh, he just probably didn't use the new config.
Apr 03 19:00:13 <sybren> TAsn: just tell me how to use the new config ;-)
Apr 03 19:00:20 <TAsn> sybren, try: rm -rf ~/.e && /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
Apr 03 19:00:23 <TAsn> be advised
Apr 03 19:00:29 <TAsn> that it will remove your current e config.
Apr 03 19:00:39 <TAsn> (if you changed anything manually)
Apr 03 19:00:49 <sybren> TAsn: I'll do 'mv .e DOTe' instead of the 'rm' then
Apr 03 19:01:18 <JesusMcCloud> (and do it via ssh or add an & at the end)
Apr 03 19:01:31 <sybren> yeah, I got ssh :)
Apr 03 19:01:39 <sybren> which profile is preferred?
Apr 03 19:02:43 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07msmcomm * r23c0cd870fc9 10/libmsmcomm/vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi: libmsmcomm: vapi: add cheader_filename attributes
Apr 03 19:03:54 <TAsn> sybren, I prefer illume2 shr
Apr 03 19:03:59 <TAsn> but it's different it uses illume2
Apr 03 19:04:06 <TAsn> which is cooler/faster/better
Apr 03 19:04:09 <TAsn> but in testing
Apr 03 19:04:14 <TAsn> it doesn't include everything yet.
Apr 03 19:04:20 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9cdf974cbad3 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (commandqueue.vala mediators.vala unsolicited.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: update SimAuth status
Apr 03 19:04:29 <sybren> TAsn: I just tried that one, it crashed enlightenment
Apr 03 19:04:36 <TAsn> lol :P
Apr 03 19:04:39 <TAsn> Try illume1 then.
Apr 03 19:04:50 <sybren> usually I go for the new shiny one, but I got to rush to a party in a minute ;-)
Apr 03 19:05:25 <TAsn> haha
Apr 03 19:05:26 <TAsn> ok.
Apr 03 19:05:59 <sybren> it's telling me "please wait" in the "local numbers settings" window, but I've been waiting for quite a while now
Apr 03 19:06:03 <sybren> what am I waiting for?
Apr 03 19:06:36 <mickey|dinner> leviathan: fwiw, android.org kernel contains a 2.6.33 version now since a couple of days, perhaps you can merge/check the wifi w/ that tree
Apr 03 19:06:44 <TAsn> sybren, sim to be ready.
Apr 03 19:06:52 <TAsn> But you can just kill 
Apr 03 19:07:02 <TAsn> the python process running shr-wizard
Apr 03 19:07:09 <sybren> I'll run my gsm-enable and sim-pin scripts ;-)
Apr 03 19:08:54 <sybren> there we go, killed shr-wizard, and now I have quick-settings
Apr 03 19:08:55 <sybren> great, thanks guys
Apr 03 19:08:56 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 03 19:08:56 <leviathan> ok
Apr 03 19:08:58 <sybren> now I got to run :)
Apr 03 19:09:05 <leviathan> mickey|dinner: ok. I'll try
Apr 03 19:11:02 <mickey|dinner> [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.AuthStatus  /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device  :1.299
Apr 03 19:11:02 <mickey|dinner> ( "SIM PIN" )
Apr 03 19:11:02 <mickey|dinner> [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.DeviceStatus  /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device  :1.299
Apr 03 19:11:02 <mickey|dinner> ( "alive-sim-locked" )
Apr 03 19:11:09 * mickey|dinner dances a jig
Apr 03 19:11:15 <mickey|dinner> [palm pre]
Apr 03 19:14:08 <Martix> nice
Apr 03 19:14:29 <Martix> which devices currently FSO supports?
Apr 03 19:17:32 <mickey|dinner> openmoko 100%
Apr 03 19:17:44 <mickey|dinner> 50% motorola ezx
Apr 03 19:17:50 <mickey|dinner> htc dream
Apr 03 19:17:53 <mickey|dinner> htc raphael and family
Apr 03 19:18:02 <mickey|dinner> 30% palm pre
Apr 03 19:18:14 <mickey|dinner> dream and palm pre improving a lot
Apr 03 19:18:24 <mickey|dinner> will be roughly 80% this year
Apr 03 19:18:46 <mickey|dinner> and of course many more devices
Apr 03 19:18:53 <mickey|dinner> as long as they use standard interfaces
Apr 03 19:19:03 <mickey|dinner> like AT, kernel class devices, etc.
Apr 03 19:19:43 * mrmoku is still hoping for a nice samrastersung phone :)
Apr 03 19:20:02 <mickey|dinner> right
Apr 03 19:20:10 <mickey|dinner> that should be working as well
Apr 03 19:21:38 <TAsn> mrmoku, mickey's fix worked :P
Apr 03 19:21:50 <TAsn> mrmoku, mind bumping EFL though?
Apr 03 19:21:51 <mrmoku> good...one problem less :)
Apr 03 19:21:57 <mrmoku> heh
Apr 03 19:22:04 <mrmoku> again?
Apr 03 19:22:24 <mrmoku> what is fixed?
Apr 03 19:22:42 <TAsn> sizing of topbar and softkey
Apr 03 19:22:48 <Martix> mickey|dinner: good
Apr 03 19:23:51 <TAsn> through config that is.
Apr 03 19:24:53 <mrmoku> hmm... I don't feel like bumping EFL_SRCREV in OE without trying it first :P
Apr 03 19:25:07 <TAsn> makes sense
Apr 03 19:25:15 <TAsn> so we'll delay it for sometime else :P
Apr 03 19:25:23 <Martix> mickey|dinner: have you got any papers/slides for speaking about FSO? except freesmartphone.org of course
Apr 03 19:25:26 <mrmoku> well... I will start a local build of it mnow
Apr 03 19:25:43 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku: cant be worse than it was 3 days ago
Apr 03 19:25:56 <Martix> I am going to have speak about FSO on Openmobility conference - www.openmobility.cz
Apr 03 19:26:20 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: hehe
Apr 03 19:26:40 <mrmoku> TAsn: what rev ?
Apr 03 19:27:37 <TAsn> latest by devilhorns? :P
Apr 03 19:27:43 <TAsn> Sec.
Apr 03 19:27:47 <TAsn> will test
Apr 03 19:28:47 <TAsn> 47713
Apr 03 19:29:39 <TAsn> omg I said test :P
Apr 03 19:29:44 <TAsn> :(
Apr 03 19:39:18 <PaulFertser> win 33
Apr 03 19:42:08 <GNUtoo> hi leviathan, is alsa fixed or reverted+cleaned?
Apr 03 19:43:36 <leviathan> GNUtoo: works fine
Apr 03 19:43:48 <leviathan> without reverting
Apr 03 19:43:51 <GNUtoo> ok how?
Apr 03 19:43:59 <GNUtoo> you pushed a fix?
Apr 03 19:43:59 <leviathan> just turn the mostercontrol to 0 volume
Apr 03 19:44:00 <leviathan> to mute
Apr 03 19:44:01 <leviathan> :)
Apr 03 19:44:07 <GNUtoo> ?
Apr 03 19:44:14 <GNUtoo> is it a code fix/
Apr 03 19:44:17 <GNUtoo> or a howto
Apr 03 19:44:24 <GNUtoo> like howto workarround it
Apr 03 19:44:52 <leviathan> workaround :)
Apr 03 19:44:58 <GNUtoo> yes but not code so
Apr 03 19:45:05 <GNUtoo> mickeyl wants something better
Apr 03 19:45:08 <GNUtoo> I bet
Apr 03 19:45:21 <GNUtoo> maybe we should ear what he has to say
Apr 03 19:45:26 <leviathan> k
Apr 03 19:45:36 <GNUtoo> mickey|dinner, hi
Apr 03 19:46:36 <GNUtoo> leviathan, I'm for reverting to previous alsa controls and for reducing the number of possible routes to the one you had in your new implementation
Apr 03 19:46:41 <GNUtoo> like 3 routes
Apr 03 19:46:45 <GNUtoo> to prevent crash
Apr 03 19:46:58 <GNUtoo> and to remove useless bluetooth things
Apr 03 19:47:06 <leviathan> uhhm
Apr 03 19:47:18 <leviathan> why not just watching my implementation and do it right
Apr 03 19:47:24 <GNUtoo> they should not be here....they should be in pulse or somewhere else
Apr 03 19:47:38 <leviathan> I bet using switches is cleaner then a value bar for routing >_<
Apr 03 19:47:46 <GNUtoo> your implementation would be great if:
Apr 03 19:48:01 <GNUtoo> *there was an hardware possibility to mute
Apr 03 19:48:07 <GNUtoo> which is unknown
Apr 03 19:48:16 <leviathan> uhm
Apr 03 19:48:17 <GNUtoo> *it worked wihout extra care
Apr 03 19:48:52 <leviathan> we could try to implement a volume switch with mut function
Apr 03 19:49:05 <leviathan> but it needs a lot of tinkering
Apr 03 19:49:06 <GNUtoo> sometime we could need things that needs some care in userspace but maybe I understood(maybe wrongly) that fixing that part was very easy
Apr 03 19:49:41 <GNUtoo> leviathan, we should ask mickey|dinner ,he's the one who does userspace
Apr 03 19:49:49 <leviathan> yes
Apr 03 19:56:55 <leviathan> I need headset
Apr 03 19:57:10 <leviathan> GNUtoo: for listening music over my headset on drem
Apr 03 19:57:46 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 19:58:05 <leviathan> and I thought to buy a bt-headset
Apr 03 19:58:06 <GNUtoo> there is no headset in oe's kenrel?
Apr 03 19:58:08 <GNUtoo> config?
Apr 03 19:58:12 <leviathan> uhhm
Apr 03 19:58:16 <leviathan> it works :)
Apr 03 19:58:20 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 19:58:27 <GNUtoo> so why do you say you need headset?
Apr 03 19:58:52 <GNUtoo> bt routing cannot happend in the kernel
Apr 03 20:00:15 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 03 20:00:30 <leviathan> i've three noded
Apr 03 20:00:32 <leviathan> handset
Apr 03 20:00:37 <leviathan> for making phone calls
Apr 03 20:00:49 <leviathan> then the internal speaker
Apr 03 20:00:59 <leviathan> for play'n sound loud out of dream
Apr 03 20:01:16 <leviathan> and headset for listening music over headset
Apr 03 20:01:21 <leviathan> the rest is just note
Apr 03 20:01:56 <leviathan> because as you see, theres no switch for bt in alsamixer
Apr 03 20:05:13 <GNUtoo> I want the same 3 possibilities like in your implementation,handset,headset,speaker
Apr 03 20:05:17 <GNUtoo> or something like that
Apr 03 20:05:21 <GNUtoo> not less not more
Apr 03 20:08:07 <GNUtoo> nice, a 320x240 mp4 video of big buck bunny,with cpu full speed isn't slow,it uses about 50%/60% cpu,in console tough...but you can see the video normally
Apr 03 20:09:35 <GNUtoo> cpu running at full speed
Apr 03 20:10:44 <Gabrys> GNUtoo: how do you play the MP4 video?
Apr 03 20:11:19 <GNUtoo> Gabrys, htc dream under shr console based image
Apr 03 20:11:31 <Gabrys> a htc dream 
Apr 03 20:11:32 <Gabrys> ok
Apr 03 20:11:34 <GNUtoo> mplayer big_buck_bunny_320-bug.avi
Apr 03 20:11:36 <GNUtoo> like this
Apr 03 20:11:45 <Gabrys> by console you mean aalib?
Apr 03 20:12:03 <Gabrys> or is there framebuffer support?
Apr 03 20:13:36 <soltys> hm after upgrade xorg wont start on my fr ;( 
Apr 03 20:14:06 <GNUtoo> Gabrys, framebuffer
Apr 03 20:16:49 <mrmoku> soltys: fix is on ml
Apr 03 20:17:01 <mrmoku> soltys: opkg remove -force-depends mesa-dir; opkg upgrade
Apr 03 20:17:11 <mrmoku> err
Apr 03 20:17:13 <soltys> mrmoku: thanks ;)
Apr 03 20:17:13 <mrmoku> mesa-dri
Apr 03 20:20:43 <soltys> mrmoku: what should help for http://pastebin.org/133229 ?
Apr 03 20:27:52 <soltys> btw any one know why tango gps says that there isn;t any gps ?
Apr 03 20:32:12 <lindi-> soltys: what does tcpdump show?
Apr 03 20:32:32 <mrmoku> soltys: the first one probably opkg remove -force-depends alsa-scenarii-shr
Apr 03 20:32:44 <mrmoku> the second one I'm not sure which of the two is the correct one
Apr 03 20:33:35 <soltys> lindi-: hmm didn't try that but gpsd isn't running
Apr 03 20:34:00 <lindi-> soltys: that surely explains it then :)
Apr 03 20:34:27 <soltys> lindi-: yeap but it wont start
Apr 03 20:35:17 <lindi-> soltys: how does it fail?
Apr 03 20:35:35 <soltys> lindi-: gpsd: can't run with neither control socket nor devices
Apr 03 20:35:46 <soltys> after /etc/init.d/gpsd restart
Apr 03 20:35:50 <lindi-> soltys: yep you need to give the device name as an argument
Apr 03 20:35:59 <soltys> hmm
Apr 03 20:36:34 <soltys> lindi-: how to do that ?
Apr 03 20:37:59 <lindi-> soltys: er, gpsd /dev/gps for example?
Apr 03 20:38:23 <lindi-> I use gpsd -F gpsd.sock -b -G -N -n -D 1 /dev/ttySAC1
Apr 03 20:39:32 <soltys> mhm thanks
Apr 03 20:44:47 <soltys> lindi-: it works thanks
Apr 03 20:45:01 <soltys> but I wonder why there is an init script that do not work ;)
Apr 03 20:47:56 <dos1> soltys: don't use gpsd
Apr 03 20:47:59 <dos1> soltys: use fso-gpsd :P
Apr 03 20:48:18 <soltys> dos1: so provide init script for that
Apr 03 20:48:20 <soltys> ;P
Apr 03 20:48:36 <dos1> soltys: fso-gpsd should be automatically started at SHR boot
Apr 03 20:48:47 <soltys> or fix opkg not to uinstal it
Apr 03 20:48:49 <dos1> as there is initscript
Apr 03 20:49:05 <dos1> well, you can use gpsd
Apr 03 20:49:08 <soltys> it's missing in ma rootfs ;]
Apr 03 20:49:18 <soltys> it's installing ;P
Apr 03 20:49:19 <dos1> but don't complain at for instance openBmap-logger not working then ;]
Apr 03 20:49:29 <soltys> and I bet that opkg upgrade removed it
Apr 03 20:49:59 <dos1> possible, opkg is just crap :P
Apr 03 20:50:31 <soltys> so make it less crappy ;)
Apr 03 20:55:19 <leviathan> GNUtoo: we have three routing nodes...
Apr 03 20:55:25 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 03 20:55:33 <GNUtoo> I know
Apr 03 20:55:38 <GNUtoo> so?
Apr 03 20:59:05 <leviathan> so youre request is fullfilled
Apr 03 20:59:15 <leviathan> we've got three routing nodes in alsamixer :)
Apr 03 21:03:02 <GNUtoo> and they work ?
Apr 03 21:03:04 <GNUtoo> fine
Apr 03 21:03:07 <GNUtoo> without workarround?
Apr 03 21:03:31 <lindi-> soltys: how would the init script know what device to use?
Apr 03 21:04:19 <soltys> lindi-: acording to init script it reads it frome /etc/default/gpsd
Apr 03 21:04:29 <soltys> and there is device specified
Apr 03 21:04:55 <lindi-> soltys: well then it should work
Apr 03 21:05:40 <soltys> yeap but it doesn't, and installing fso-gpds fixed problem with tango...
Apr 03 21:05:46 <soltys> ~lart opkg
Apr 03 21:05:46 * apt readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at opkg
Apr 03 21:06:10 <lindi-> soltys: file a bug :)
Apr 03 21:06:29 <lindi-> soltys: and specify the distro too
Apr 03 21:07:03 <soltys> lindi-: it happened long time ago 
Apr 03 21:07:29 <soltys> lindi-: after upgrade shr-u in fer/marcg or eavn earlyer
Apr 03 21:07:45 <soltys> s/cg/ch
Apr 03 21:07:49 <soltys> s/cg/ch/
Apr 03 21:07:50 <apt> soltys meant: s/ch/ch
Apr 03 21:07:53 <soltys> damn
Apr 03 21:08:00 <Martix> :D
Apr 03 21:09:19 <Martix> s/:-D/:-P
Apr 03 21:10:22 <Martix> /
Apr 03 21:33:37 <mrmoku> TAsn: local build finished... testing now
Apr 03 21:34:24 <TAsn> thanks :P
Apr 03 21:34:25 <TAsn> let me know.
Apr 03 21:34:42 <TAsn> and use new e-wm-config-illume2-shr and tell me if you like new sizes :P
Apr 03 21:35:03 <mrmoku> have to remove .e, right?
Apr 03 21:35:27 <spaetz> mrmoku, I think so  yes
Apr 03 21:35:34 <TAsn> not sure, but probably best :P
Apr 03 21:35:40 <mrmoku> k
Apr 03 21:37:23 <TAsn> and please up a screenie :P
Apr 03 21:37:46 <mrmoku> heh 
Apr 03 21:38:09 <mrmoku> still upgrading....
Apr 03 21:40:14 <TAsn> mrmoku, btw, got those bootchart screenies ?
Apr 03 21:40:39 <TAsn> I want to see the bootchart results again :P
Apr 03 21:40:51 <von_fritz> mmmh smaler icons :)
Apr 03 21:40:59 <TAsn> Worst case I'll install my own version, but still....
Apr 03 21:41:03 <TAsn> von_fritz, ?
Apr 03 21:41:21 <mrmoku> von_fritz: up some screenies for TAsn :P
Apr 03 21:41:36 <von_fritz> ok
Apr 03 21:41:39 <von_fritz> :)
Apr 03 21:41:42 <TAsn> what are you guys talking about?
Apr 03 21:41:45 <TAsn> von_fritz, what did you do? :P
Apr 03 21:42:15 <mrmoku> TAsn: obviously he is building faster :P
Apr 03 21:42:30 <TAsn> mrmoku, but I didn't change icon sizes.
Apr 03 21:42:33 <von_fritz> scap ;)
Apr 03 21:42:46 <von_fritz> EFL upgrade
Apr 03 21:43:59 <TAsn> mickey|dinner, btw, I just thought about another thing not there yet in opimd, using the session bus, saving database files according to user in home. And maybe even, allow saving some of the data in a centralized data for all users, not sure about the latter though. These are not API changes, but are still important to do in the rewrite.
Apr 03 21:44:16 <TAsn> von_fritz, icons are the same size, I made the top bar and bottom bar smaller :P
Apr 03 21:44:34 <TAsn> von_fritz, do you think I can/should make them even smaller?
Apr 03 21:44:56 <mrmoku> TAsn: no need to rm -rf .e :)
Apr 03 21:44:56 <TAsn> This frees more screen space and therefore nicer :P
Apr 03 21:45:11 <TAsn> mrmoku, I suspected this might be so
Apr 03 21:45:23 <spaetz> mrmoku, ahh  sorry
Apr 03 21:45:23 <TAsn> as these are different configs
Apr 03 21:45:26 <TAsn> new configs
Apr 03 21:45:39 <mrmoku> spaetz: np. forgot to do so before rebooting :P
Apr 03 21:45:39 <TAsn> this is why I wasn't sure
Apr 03 21:45:49 <TAsn> mrmoku, just restart X next time :P
Apr 03 21:46:10 <mrmoku> TAsn: well, was a big upgrade... including eglibc... reboot was appropriate :)
Apr 03 21:46:10 <TAsn> mrmoku, anyhow, safe to sync and let me have fun? :P
Apr 03 21:46:13 <TAsn> Ok.
Apr 03 21:46:16 <von_fritz> smale no, if you have fat fingers it becoms difficult to close apps :)
Apr 03 21:46:33 <TAsn> btw, do you think the spacing in the top bar is better?
Apr 03 21:46:36 <von_fritz> +r
Apr 03 21:46:44 <TAsn> (between buttons)
Apr 03 21:47:19 <von_fritz> close button (chiudi) at bottom
Apr 03 21:47:39 <TAsn> i'm talking about the spacing in the top bar :P
Apr 03 21:48:00 <von_fritz> top bar is OK for me
Apr 03 21:48:04 <TAsn> mrmoku, anyhow, quick brb, food.
Apr 03 21:48:14 <TAsn> mrmoku, please let me know when it's available :P
Apr 03 21:48:30 <mrmoku> TAsn: have to build it on the buildhost first...
Apr 03 21:48:40 <mrmoku> and even before... bump EFL_SRCREV in OE
Apr 03 21:48:42 <TAsn> oh, I guess I'll get it tomorrow :P
Apr 03 21:48:45 <TAsn> anyhow.
Apr 03 21:48:52 <TAsn> What do you think about network manager?
Apr 03 21:48:56 <TAsn> why aren't we using it?
Apr 03 21:48:56 <mrmoku> not sure if somebody might have something against it
Apr 03 21:49:06 <mrmoku> TAsn: good question... I love nm :)
Apr 03 21:49:12 <TAsn> exactly! :P
Apr 03 21:49:17 <TAsn> I know it's a bit fat
Apr 03 21:49:24 <TAsn> but I prefer fat and working than having no wifi :P
Apr 03 21:49:39 <mrmoku> should be in the feed...
Apr 03 21:49:42 <mrmoku> at least it was once
Apr 03 21:49:49 <TAsn> it's not anymore :|
Apr 03 21:49:54 <mrmoku> :/
Apr 03 21:50:41 <TAsn> nd since the NetworkManager components communicate with each other using dbus, it's easy to to build network-aware applications with languages like C, C++, and Python, or network-aware scripts in your favorite shell.
Apr 03 21:50:55 <TAsn> so we can probably write a decent manager in no time.
Apr 03 21:51:06 <TAsn> *frontend
Apr 03 21:51:24 <ThibG> nm VS connman?
Apr 03 21:52:48 <soltys> TAsn: hmm connman works for (mokonnect ;P ) 
Apr 03 21:53:02 <TAsn> ThibG, connman is not yet ready
Apr 03 21:53:10 <TAsn> from what I remember it was terribly buggy
Apr 03 21:53:12 <ThibG> I've never had luck with connman/Mokonnect
Apr 03 21:53:13 <TAsn> and flawed.
Apr 03 21:53:17 <TAsn> ThibG, exactly...
Apr 03 21:53:27 <TAsn> I'm a good friend of the mokonnect developer
Apr 03 21:53:28 <soltys> it works...
Apr 03 21:53:32 <soltys> sometimes.. ;P
Apr 03 21:53:33 <TAsn> and he said connman is a pain
Apr 03 21:53:39 * spaetz is impartial about what to use. but  the dbus argument is moot, connman uses dbus the same way
Apr 03 21:53:53 <TAsn> and he had to send TONS of patches upstream.
Apr 03 21:53:55 <misc> well, the dbus interface of connman is not very intuitive 
Apr 03 21:54:07 <ThibG> is nm really that "fat"?
Apr 03 21:54:10 <TAsn> spaetz, I know. the dbus argument was just to mention, using that as well shouldn't be that hard.
Apr 03 21:54:20 <TAsn> ThibG, I'm going through the source code now :P
Apr 03 21:54:31 <TAsn> (to see deps)
Apr 03 21:54:44 <ThibG> ok
Apr 03 21:55:19 * misc toss a http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/ just to speed up the debate 
Apr 03 21:55:43 <spaetz> well  we could start to update connman from our version whlch is >6 months old a d see if it's better.
Apr 03 21:56:01 <spaetz> or try to get a nm frontend
Apr 03 21:56:36 <von_fritz> hey mic slider :) is ok now
Apr 03 21:56:54 <spaetz> mokonnect is not pretty either. I tried to improve it, but gave up.
Apr 03 21:57:04 <TAsn> gio, gomudle, gudev glib, gthread, gobject, dbus, libnl uuid polkit-gobject gnutls 
Apr 03 21:57:09 <TAsn> that's mostly it, I think.
Apr 03 21:57:24 <spaetz> von_fritz, which change fixed it?
Apr 03 21:57:27 <TAsn> von_fritz, really?
Apr 03 21:57:35 <TAsn> von_fritz, you are shitting me :P
Apr 03 21:57:37 <misc> i tried too, but i didn't found where to post patch :/ ( so it ended on http://www.assembla.com/flows/show/bFYz9w3UOr3OdBeJe5aVNr where it was ignored )
Apr 03 21:57:39 <TAsn> it was an e issue?
Apr 03 21:58:32 <TAsn> anyhow, i'll hopefully take a look tomorrow.
Apr 03 21:58:57 <spaetz> misc, which is the correct upstream place  afaik
Apr 03 21:59:02 <ThibG> polkit? That looks "fat", doesn't it?
Apr 03 21:59:11 <TAsn> ThibG, it is.
Apr 03 21:59:19 <TAsn> ThibG, and we don't use it yet either.
Apr 03 21:59:24 <TAsn> von_fritz, is it really fixed?!
Apr 03 21:59:29 <TAsn> mrmoku, is it working for you?
Apr 03 21:59:30 <misc> spaetz: yup, but I suspect that upstream do not expect a patch there :)
Apr 03 21:59:44 <mrmoku> TAsn: did not try yet
Apr 03 21:59:52 <TAsn> mrmoku, please do :P
Apr 03 21:59:53 <von_fritz> scap :) but i have upgraded EFL to and i don't now if its EFL related :I
Apr 03 22:00:18 <TAsn> misc, I'll send him an email.
Apr 03 22:00:45 <TAsn> misc, and assembla is crap, I told him that, he wouldn't listen.
Apr 03 22:00:46 <mrmoku> TAsn: can't right now... fsogsmd did not register :P
Apr 03 22:01:04 <TAsn> misc, he's a closed source dude at origin, he doesn't know how we do it around here
Apr 03 22:01:05 <TAsn> :P
Apr 03 22:01:14 <TAsn> And he doesn't want to listen either.
Apr 03 22:03:27 <TAsn> spaetz, please try to remember to upgrade or tell someone to upgrade connman :P
Apr 03 22:03:44 <misc> maybe he didn't know that coding and giving the source can potentially cause patch to be send 
Apr 03 22:05:20 <spaetz> TAsn, problem is that connman works fine with  the 2 wlan i acccess regularly
Apr 03 22:05:45 <spaetz> so testing improvements is a bit hard
Apr 03 22:05:52 <misc> the problem is that it work fine ?
Apr 03 22:06:07 <spaetz> yes ;)
Apr 03 22:06:09 <mrmoku> TAsn: can confirm the slider works again... can't confirm it's effect though...
Apr 03 22:06:37 <mrmoku> no audio on call... probably wrong scenarii
Apr 03 22:06:43 <TAsn> mrmoku, :P
Apr 03 22:07:01 <mrmoku> but the slider moves and keeps where I move it to... which is good :)
Apr 03 22:07:07 <TAsn> von_fritz, does it work for you? (does actually change?)
Apr 03 22:07:16 <TAsn> spaetz, so test regressions, duh :P
Apr 03 22:07:39 <spaetz> hehe, i'll do that
Apr 03 22:08:02 <mrmoku> TAsn: started build on buildhost
Apr 03 22:08:28 <TAsn> mrmoku, thanks :P
Apr 03 22:08:42 <TAsn> misc, I assume he didn't realize that.
Apr 03 22:08:59 <TAsn> misc, he's also using they shitty bug report system, what gives?!
Apr 03 22:09:21 <von_fritz> TAsn to verify I need to call someone.... but its late...midnight here ;)
Apr 03 22:09:43 <ThibG> yay we are in the same timezone!
Apr 03 22:10:15 * von_fritz calls his moglie :D
Apr 03 22:10:24 <TAsn> http://connman.net/about <--- spaetz, do we use all the required deps down there?
Apr 03 22:12:00 <spaetz> those deps are only required if you install a plugin.
Apr 03 22:12:43 <spaetz> I think, we  need udev, resolvconf, wpa-supplicant and udhcp
Apr 03 22:13:16 <spaetz> udhcp is part of busybox
Apr 03 22:13:31 <spaetz> not sure about resolvconf
Apr 03 22:13:37 <mrmoku> TAsn: hmm... e segfaulted now :/
Apr 03 22:13:52 <TAsn> mrmoku, it usually does that, what did you do?
Apr 03 22:14:08 <TAsn> mrmoku, the gsm gadget doesn't sound stable to me :|
Apr 03 22:14:46 <mrmoku> just did a call :P
Apr 03 22:14:54 <mrmoku> after fixing the sound states
Apr 03 22:15:05 <von_fritz> TAsn, wifey says it works :D
Apr 03 22:15:22 <TAsn> von_fritz, awesome :P
Apr 03 22:15:24 <mrmoku> von_fritz: good... my wifey is sleeping already... can't test with her :P
Apr 03 22:15:26 <TAsn> mrmoku, awesome :P
Apr 03 22:16:11 * mrmoku tries to build libfso-glib libphone-ui for the first time :)
Apr 03 22:18:56 <mrmoku> damn this kernel is fast :)
Apr 03 22:19:20 <TAsn> .32 still?
Apr 03 22:25:57 <TAsn> anyhow, I'm off.
Apr 03 22:26:11 <mrmoku> yep
Apr 03 22:26:39 <TAsn> mrmoku, I just can't believe I wasted so much time (not a lot, but *some*) trying to figure out this issue, when it was EFL all way long.
Apr 03 22:29:00 <mrmoku> hehe
Apr 03 22:29:20 <mrmoku> our field edit problem is still there though :/
Apr 03 22:36:15 <ThibG> huh, JBT6K74 and glamo are built-in, but still no display...
Apr 03 22:36:23 <TAsn> mrmoku, sucks :P
Apr 03 22:36:27 <ThibG> I'll take a closer look tomorrow
Apr 03 22:36:34 <TAsn> misc, great read: http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/
Apr 03 22:36:37 <TAsn> thanks
Apr 03 22:36:54 <TAsn> Just convinced me a bit more to use networkmanager :P
Apr 03 22:37:29 <TAsn> And there are also nice build options in it that should make it run better on embedded devices
Apr 03 22:37:53 <misc> TAsn: personnaly, I also think connman try to do stuff that do not belong to him, like sorting of network 
Apr 03 22:38:05 <TAsn> sorting of network?
Apr 03 22:39:44 <ThibG> 'night
Apr 03 22:43:05 <spaetz> sorting of network?
Apr 03 22:43:22 <spaetz> afaik, connman an nm try to do thee 
Apr 03 22:43:36 <spaetz> the exact same thing
Apr 03 22:44:27 <TAsn> mrmoku, Wow, the OE recipes for networkmanager are a mess, and wrong! NM does not depend on HAL anymore but instead on udev :| sucky.
Apr 03 22:44:44 <mrmoku> TAsn: feel free to fix them ;)
Apr 03 22:45:00 <TAsn> mrmoku, like I want to get into that crazy QA hell :P
Apr 03 22:45:10 <spaetz> TAsn, many oe recipes are like that
Apr 03 22:45:59 <TAsn> spaetz, I prefer dying
Apr 03 22:46:26 <spaetz> hehe, I agree
Apr 03 22:46:56 <TAsn> bitbake networkmanager_0.8 <--- is this correct?
Apr 03 22:47:24 <TAsn> ok, it's not
Apr 03 22:47:27 <spaetz> bb networkmanager should pick the latest....
Apr 03 22:47:31 <TAsn> thanks.
Apr 03 22:49:51 <mrmoku> TAsn: NOTE: Running task 3744 of 9253 (ID: 4648, /home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/efl1/embryo_svn.bb, do_configure)
Apr 03 22:50:00 <TAsn> tomorrow, I know :P
Apr 03 22:50:03 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 03 22:50:25 <TAsn> will also have network manager tomorrow :)
Apr 03 22:50:36 <TAsn> I wonder if there's a nice frontend
Apr 03 22:50:36 <mrmoku> I started the build with attached sync afterwards... in case you can't sleep :P
Apr 03 22:50:42 <TAsn> :)
Apr 03 22:50:45 <TAsn> thanks.
Apr 03 22:50:57 * mrmoku off to bed now :)
Apr 03 22:51:02 <mrmoku> gnight all
Apr 03 23:16:22 <von_fritz> well going to sleep, gnight and happy easter to all :)
Apr 03 23:49:19 <ius> Does anyone happen to be interested in a relatively cheap hackable OMAP3 phone?
Apr 03 23:51:03 <ius> Specs: Samsung H1, available on the cheap in .eu on your local craigslist (100-150 euros should be easy). Ships with broken OS based on 2.6.24.7, and I'm looking for a few helping (kernel) hands
Apr 03 23:53:24 <ius> I've ported board support code to 2.6.33. Most larger parts (except the cameras and BT/baseband) should be easy to get going, I only have so much time though.
Apr 04 00:01:55 <Martix> ius: people like mrmoku|away leviathan PaulFertser might be interested, but I think they are busy while working on other devices
Apr 04 00:02:44 <radekp> ius: and it's quite late - community mailing list could be better place to ask maybe
Apr 04 00:02:51 <ius> I see. larsc and josch are/were too (one of them has it), however they seem rather busy
Apr 04 00:04:22 <Martix> radekp: you're right, I am gonna fall asleep, too
Apr 04 00:05:51 <radekp> Martix: same here :)
Apr 04 00:05:58 <Martix> gn
Apr 04 00:06:03 <radekp> gn
Apr 04 00:09:43 <leviathan> ius: did you port the code to upstream?
Apr 04 00:09:53 <leviathan> which device exactly?
Apr 04 00:10:15 <leviathan> i'll sleep now
Apr 04 00:10:21 <ius> leviathan: upstream?
Apr 04 00:10:28 <leviathan> ius: yes
Apr 04 00:10:30 <ius> Samsung H1, by the way.
Apr 04 00:10:48 <leviathan> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
Apr 04 00:10:53 <ius> If by upstream you mean mainline kernel, then yes, up to 2.6.33 (ships with 2.6.24.7 source)
Apr 04 00:11:05 <leviathan> ius: cool!
Apr 04 00:11:15 <ius> So the source for most devices is available, just really messy (Samsung loves to /hack/)
Apr 04 00:11:22 <leviathan> I could need your help by porting also htcdream code from android to mainline
Apr 04 00:11:35 <leviathan> ius: google too >_<
Apr 04 00:11:57 <leviathan> sure I'd like to help
Apr 04 00:12:16 <leviathan> every new device supported by FSO is a new victory ;-)
Apr 04 00:13:43 <ius> Personally one of my goals is to get android going. But anything more FSO might be interesting for me too, as I'm sure I'll feel a little limited in Android (never used it yet, only 'ported' it to this phone)
Apr 04 00:14:45 <leviathan> mhmh
Apr 04 00:14:47 <leviathan> yes
Apr 04 00:15:01 <leviathan> check OE
Apr 04 00:15:02 <ius> But it currently doesn't offer much apart from being able to stare at the home screen. Touch screen support is missing. Synpatics is working on mainlining their driver, I expect there's something usable really really soon (a patch was sent to lkml, but it's incomplete/broken.. meath seems there, though)
Apr 04 00:15:19 <ius> I'm running Angstrom on it now, for development
Apr 04 00:15:38 <leviathan> ius: very cool
Apr 04 00:15:54 <leviathan> so FSO is only some few steps away
Apr 04 00:16:20 <ius> Yes. I'm being incredibly lucky with this phone I think, lots of driver already available.
Apr 04 00:16:53 <leviathan> then its the job of mickey|dinner to get fso running on this device
Apr 04 00:16:58 <leviathan> respectively
Apr 04 00:17:00 <ius> Touch screen is close, so is wifi (backported wl1271 sdio driver is unstable, I've been promised some patches for tthat).
Apr 04 00:17:12 <leviathan> for you to try out yourself
Apr 04 00:17:24 <leviathan> ohh
Apr 04 00:17:32 <leviathan> thats a problem for us too
Apr 04 00:17:37 <leviathan> wifi is wl1251
Apr 04 00:17:50 <leviathan> and sdio has some strange bugs
Apr 04 00:18:03 <leviathan> which hold the wifi card back from initialisation
Apr 04 00:18:20 <leviathan> well
Apr 04 00:18:26 <leviathan> I need to sleep now
Apr 04 00:18:35 <leviathan> but tomorrow I'll be back
Apr 04 00:18:40 <leviathan> one thing is sure
Apr 04 00:18:59 <ius> On-SoC stuff works of course (USB OTG, keys, mmc). Display works ('backlight' needs work), sound works, etc.
Apr 04 00:19:00 <leviathan> I'm totally interested into every new platform which gets available for FSO
Apr 04 00:19:03 <ius> Goodnight :)
Apr 04 00:19:13 <leviathan> thx
Apr 04 00:19:18 <leviathan> same to you
Apr 04 00:19:24 <leviathan> until tomorrow
Apr 04 00:19:51 <leviathan> I suggest to look into FSO wiki
Apr 04 00:19:51 <ius> It's just the baseband which will need some/lots of reversing. Haven't looked at it yet, so I don't know how much work is involved. Non-ascii protocol though I think
Apr 04 00:20:04 <leviathan> np
Apr 04 00:20:09 <leviathan> palm pre the same
Apr 04 00:20:14 <leviathan> and some other devices
Apr 04 00:20:24 <leviathan> mickey has a lot of experience there
Apr 04 00:20:34 <ius> :)
Apr 04 00:20:37 <leviathan> ask him for further details concerning FSO
Apr 04 00:20:39 <leviathan> :)
Apr 04 00:20:50 <leviathan> so
Apr 04 00:20:54 <leviathan> now I'll sleep
Apr 04 00:21:02 <leviathan> I'm really tired
Apr 04 00:21:04 <leviathan> gn8
Apr 04 00:47:23 <TAsn> mrmoku|away, I haven't gone to bed yet ;(
Apr 04 00:47:34 <TAsn> mrmoku|away, damn you and your damn prophecy!
Apr 04 01:12:16 <CIA-32> SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * r64cb98b160f8 10/src/view/quick-settings-view.c: Idle_screen: Changed toggles to Allow/Forbid instead of the ON/OFF (that were the other way around anyway).
Apr 04 01:23:29 <gonzoism> THAT ISN'T FUNNY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 04 01:23:40 <gonzoism> :P
Apr 04 01:24:26 <gonzoism> THAT ISN'T FUNNY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 04 01:24:29 <gonzoism> :P
Apr 04 01:25:07 <gonzoism> @ shr-windows
Apr 04 01:25:15 <gonzoism> for april 1
Apr 04 02:06:34 <tmzt_> gonzoism: it would be cool on ce actually
Apr 04 02:06:48 <tmzt_> the vala stuff should be portable, don't know how dbus would work though
Apr 04 02:08:06 <tmzt_> H1?
Apr 04 02:09:22 <gonzoism> tmzt_ :)
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