**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 09 02:59:56 2010
Apr 09 06:20:46 <JaMa> moin
Apr 09 06:29:03 <Q-Master> morning
Apr 09 06:50:15 <mrmoku> morning
Apr 09 07:04:47 <graziano> mrmoku: morning!
Apr 09 07:07:08 <mrmoku> graziano: buon giorno :)
Apr 09 07:13:23 <spaetzAway> buon giorno
Apr 09 07:14:25 <spaetz> TAsn: will upgrade fsodeviced soon, I tried to test and build yesterday but the build failed all over the place :-(. So I could not test it.
Apr 09 07:14:33 <spaetz> no idea what had happened.
Apr 09 07:33:56 <JaMa> radekp: ping
Apr 09 07:35:46 <radekp> JaMa: pong
Apr 09 07:36:28 <spaetz> TAsn: cornucopia bumped and building. I hope things won't break or I'll have to revert
Apr 09 07:36:52 <spaetz> I wonder how /if I can merge the recent sane-srcrev cleanup into shr/testing
Apr 09 07:36:55 <spaetz> scary
Apr 09 07:37:53 <spaetz> jama, cherry picking this should be safe, right: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?h=shr/unstable&id=30a913149de95ecafe4ef87bd50cfdbd6737fe1e
Apr 09 07:37:58 <spaetz> no further changes?
Apr 09 07:39:53 <spaetz> oh no, that gives me tons of SRCPV SRCREV conflicts.
Apr 09 07:40:13 <JaMa> spaetz: you need few previous commits
Apr 09 07:40:17 <spaetz> I'll keep it the old way and will rather branch of existing shr/unstable for the next testing iteration.
Apr 09 07:40:57 <spaetz> keep changes in this testing really small and then use shr/unstable as a new starting point soon.
Apr 09 07:41:15 <JaMa> spaetz: try this one http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?h=shr/unstable&id=740fcfffb1303fca96058a5007b6a3bb208dd476
Apr 09 07:41:56 <spaetz> ahh, thanks :)
Apr 09 07:42:03 <JaMa> it's not only this commit but it should work
Apr 09 07:42:23 <JaMa> spaetz: and those svn moves from last week
Apr 09 07:42:36 <spaetz> cherry-picking a merge is tricky
Apr 09 07:42:42 <spaetz> I need to specify a parent 
Apr 09 07:42:44 <JaMa> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?h=shr/unstable&id=82b394467d9142edf2721176244c3a7eb26ba69a
Apr 09 07:42:51 <JaMa> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?h=shr/unstable&id=926280dac03410f8c535afc948dabfd73ce10463
Apr 09 07:42:53 <spaetz> and I have no clue which :)
Apr 09 07:43:18 <spaetz> JaMa: I think it is less error prone to jsut make smal changes there and use all of shr/unstable as a new origin soon.
Apr 09 07:43:31 <spaetz> Otherwise I will forget a few crucial commits.
Apr 09 07:43:46 <spaetz> and it is much easier.
Apr 09 07:44:15 <spaetz> time is scarce atm.
Apr 09 07:44:47 <JaMa> try git am wgetted http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/patch/?id=740fcfffb1303fca96058a5007b6a3bb208dd476
Apr 09 07:45:19 <JaMa> this should IMHO work even without specifiing parent
Apr 09 07:46:49 <spaetz> ohh, nifty
Apr 09 07:47:36 <JaMa> but as said before.. sanesrcrevs.conf would conflict unless you cherry-pick those two ^^ first (should be ok without conflicts)
Apr 09 07:48:02 <spaetz> Applying: Merge remote branch 'origin/org.openembedded.dev' into shr/unstable
Apr 09 07:48:05 <spaetz> fatal: git apply: bad git-diff - expected /dev/null on line 75
Apr 09 07:48:09 * spaetz sighs.
Apr 09 07:48:22 <spaetz> Thanks for your efforts. I will have to do that another time.
Apr 09 07:48:34 <JaMa> spaetz: and before moving to new origin wait for pushing checksums to recipes..
Apr 09 07:48:36 <spaetz> My wife's birthday today and we are kind of busy.
Apr 09 07:48:45 <spaetz> JaMa: will do, yes
Apr 09 07:48:47 <JaMa> I have 1.6MB patch :)
Apr 09 07:48:55 <spaetz> heh, wow
Apr 09 07:49:06 <JaMa> and it's not finished still (downloading internet with bitbake :))
Apr 09 07:49:14 <spaetz> :)
Apr 09 07:49:23 <spaetz> Jama, the new internet mirrir
Apr 09 07:49:25 <spaetz> mirror
Apr 09 07:49:57 <JaMa> hopefully this is just some strange bug :)
Apr 09 07:49:58 <JaMa> jama ~ # du -hs /home/downloads/OE/
Apr 09 07:49:58 <JaMa> 629G    /home/downloads/OE/
Apr 09 07:50:22 <JaMa> good that there is not much recipes for pr0n :)
Apr 09 07:50:24 <spaetz> WTF? HEHE
Apr 09 07:51:03 <JaMa> it should be about 30G and I'm only in some 60% recipes (from yesterday)
Apr 09 07:57:04 <alabd> Good day all
Apr 09 08:02:17 <alabd> TAsn,  Good day  persian chars are shown separated in pidgin , browser , ... but they are ok in messages
Apr 09 08:14:28 <graziano> leviathan: mickey|away: any news about htc dream support?
Apr 09 08:40:21 <spaetz> has anyone compiled the vala-bindings-tools successfully?
Apr 09 08:40:29 <spaetz> configure fails here with:
Apr 09 08:40:36 <spaetz> ./configure: line 11317: syntax error near unexpected token `0.35.0'
Apr 09 08:40:36 <spaetz> ./configure: line 11317: `IT_PROG_INTLTOOL(0.35.0)'
Apr 09 08:41:15 <misc> i think you need to recreate ./configure 
Apr 09 08:45:43 <Serdar> mickey|away, ping?
Apr 09 08:46:27 <spaetz> misc: I did with autogen.sh
Apr 09 08:46:33 <Serdar> "EDuke32 screams bad ass so loud, you'll think Iron Maiden frontman Bruce Dickinson got uppercut in the balls by Freddy Krueger."
Apr 09 08:46:34 <spaetz> anyway, I just removed the line.
Apr 09 08:49:33 <misc> spaetz: then I think some deps are missing 
Apr 09 08:59:49 <spaetz> right, so they were. mickey|away it would be nice if vala-dbus-bindings could check for intltool presence and give a clear error message
Apr 09 08:59:58 <spaetz> I only had intltoo-debian
Apr 09 09:00:05 <spaetz> intltool-debian
Apr 09 09:07:52 <Zorkman> hi all
Apr 09 09:07:59 <Zorkman> been a long while again
Apr 09 09:08:33 <Zorkman> anyone know if there have been some big improvements in navit?
Apr 09 09:11:37 <rhkfin> Zorkman: see MC Navit
Apr 09 09:16:41 <Serdar> someone tell mickey, I will talk to him later.
Apr 09 09:20:23 <Heinervdm> Serdar: write him a email, else this will go one for some weeks like that ;)
Apr 09 09:20:53 <Serdar> I got time.
Apr 09 09:21:30 <Heinervdm> Serdar: you can also join #openmoko-de there isn't that much noise
Apr 09 09:22:21 <Zorkman> rhkfin: what is MC Navit?
Apr 09 09:22:41 <lindi-> rhkfin: it's "MC Navi"
Apr 09 09:23:02 <Zorkman> oh read, something about that on the  ML I think
Apr 09 09:23:13 <Zorkman> didn't know it was already usable
Apr 09 09:26:16 <Zorkman> looks promissing
Apr 09 09:26:38 <Zorkman> curious as to how it compares to navit, will try to install it one day
Apr 09 09:27:14 <Zorkman> (thanks lindi- and rhkfin btw)
Apr 09 09:34:39 <Heinervdm> Are there different ways displaying names in different languages? Or is "Lastname, Firstname" the common one in every language?
Apr 09 09:35:22 <Q-Master> Heinervdm: not exactly
Apr 09 09:35:38 <Zorkman> Not in any of the languages I know...
Apr 09 09:36:05 <Q-Master> Heinervdm: Russia uses both: Lastname, Firstname and Firstname Lastname.
Apr 09 09:36:23 <Heinervdm> Does someone knows a library that formats the name accorting to the locale?
Apr 09 09:38:01 <Heinervdm> Q-Master: yes firstname lastname is used in germany too sometimes, but i think lastname, firstname is used more often in lists
Apr 09 09:38:47 <Q-Master> Heinervdm: yep. and for now contacts in shr uses weird firstname lastname...
Apr 09 09:39:22 <Heinervdm> Q-Master: contacts just uses the Name field i think
Apr 09 09:40:02 <Q-Master> Heinervdm: nop. it uses three. Name "Nickname" Surname
Apr 09 09:40:19 <Q-Master> Heinervdm: last two if they exist
Apr 09 09:42:49 <Heinervdm> hmm, i don't remember the field names anymore, that we agreed on
Apr 09 09:43:24 <Heinervdm> I think of writing a function to format names in the right way for libphone-ui-shr
Apr 09 09:43:49 <Q-Master> let it be configurable
Apr 09 09:44:03 <Q-Master> some like name surname and some like surname name
Apr 09 09:45:04 <Heinervdm> ok
Apr 09 10:05:17 <vanous123> Q-Master: and sometimes you need to switch it as you are searching...
Apr 09 10:05:31 <vanous123> :)
Apr 09 10:05:47 <Q-Master> vanous123: searching should work for all fields.
Apr 09 10:05:57 <vanous123> if it exists...
Apr 09 10:44:06 <alabd> Good day all , how to copy text from terminal ?
Apr 09 10:44:22 <vanous123> alabd: copy where to?
Apr 09 10:44:35 <vanous123> alabd: just swite finger over test
Apr 09 10:44:53 <vanous123> s/swite/swipe/
Apr 09 10:44:53 <apt> vanous123 meant: alabd: just swipe finger over test
Apr 09 10:44:59 <vanous123> gosh
Apr 09 10:45:03 <vanous123> text i mean
Apr 09 10:45:05 <alabd> does it copy ?
Apr 09 10:45:36 <alabd> how to paste in for example pidgin windows
Apr 09 10:45:45 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: we have that function... at least for PIM Contacts
Apr 09 10:45:59 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: ah, ok
Apr 09 10:46:13 <mrmoku> libphone-ui in phoneui-utils.c
Apr 09 10:46:22 <mrmoku> phoneui_utils_contact_display_name_get(GHashTable *properties)
Apr 09 10:46:55 <TAsn> alabd, presian chars: looks like gtk is doing something wrong and I'm doing something right, weepee :P
Apr 09 10:47:18 <alabd> thanks TAsn 
Apr 09 10:47:20 <TAsn> np.
Apr 09 10:47:20 <Q-Master> mrmoku:  this function is horrible and wrong. 8)
Apr 09 10:47:25 <TAsn> Q-Master, probably.
Apr 09 10:47:32 <TAsn> please suggest a different algorithm
Apr 09 10:47:36 <TAsn> and we'll happily use it.
Apr 09 10:47:44 <vanous123> alabd: testing now, can copy from gtk to term but not the other way
Apr 09 10:47:58 <alabd> mrmoku,  woud you remove those persian layouts from host it seems they don't work humble have another working one
Apr 09 10:48:20 <mrmoku> alabd: about keyboards better talk with TAsn :)I
Apr 09 10:48:26 <alabd> vanous123, how to do you copy from gtk ?
Apr 09 10:48:45 <TAsn> mrmoku, it's not a problem with the keyboards, to be honest, I don't get what his problem :P
Apr 09 10:48:53 <vanous123> alabd: just select
Apr 09 10:48:55 <TAsn> alabd, ^
Apr 09 10:50:35 <alabd> mrmoku,  those packages that are on host are not ok 
Apr 09 10:51:18 <Q-Master> TAsn: it is not configurable. it always use weird "name surname" and somehow produces (unknown) if Name field abscent.
Apr 09 10:51:28 <TAsn> Q-Master, I know it's not.
Apr 09 10:51:37 <TAsn> And I know we should make it configurable :P
Apr 09 10:51:43 <Q-Master> TAsn: it definitely does
Apr 09 10:51:50 <Q-Master> I'm reading the source now
Apr 09 10:52:37 <alabd> have you tested them  ? mrmoku  persian illume layouts
Apr 09 10:52:44 <Q-Master> TAsn: if contact only has surname only it will be shown as unknown.
Apr 09 10:53:06 <TAsn> Q-Master, I know.
Apr 09 10:53:14 <TAsn> I meant I know it's not configurable
Apr 09 10:53:18 <Q-Master> ah
Apr 09 10:53:25 <Q-Master> pardon me then
Apr 09 10:54:07 <TAsn> ffs my connection sucks
Apr 09 10:54:10 <TAsn> sec, restarting it
Apr 09 10:54:28 <Q-Master> why not adding 3 lines before else if(name) then? else if (surname) {
Apr 09 10:54:28 <Q-Master> <----><---->displayname = g_strdup(surname);
Apr 09 10:54:28 <Q-Master> <---->}
Apr 09 10:55:47 <Q-Master> why not adding 3 lines before else if(name) then?
Apr 09 10:55:58 <Q-Master> else if (surname) {
Apr 09 10:55:58 <Q-Master> <----><---->displayname = g_strdup(surname);
Apr 09 10:55:58 <Q-Master> <---->}
Apr 09 10:56:26 <leviathan> graziano: uhm news?
Apr 09 10:56:49 <leviathan> following thing: graphics, sound, wifi and telephony basically works now
Apr 09 10:57:02 <leviathan> basically because of the fact, that I'm unable atm
Apr 09 10:57:17 <leviathan> to activate the umts/gsm-antenna in my dream
Apr 09 10:57:23 <leviathan> in the settings menu
Apr 09 10:57:46 <leviathan> and that xorg needs to be startet manually every bootup
Apr 09 10:57:53 <PaulFertser> leviathan: so you got wifi working in the end? What was the gotcha?
Apr 09 10:57:54 <leviathan> so they are more userspace issues
Apr 09 10:58:02 <leviathan> PaulFertser: uhm
Apr 09 10:58:09 <leviathan> issues with firmware loading
Apr 09 10:58:27 <leviathan> and some additional patches, which were not ported to 2.6.32 from 2.6.29
Apr 09 10:58:43 <leviathan> so we needed to import this modifications fort sdcc driver
Apr 09 10:58:46 <leviathan> into our kernel
Apr 09 10:58:48 <leviathan> now it works
Apr 09 10:59:00 <PaulFertser> leviathan: aha, so the patches is what important. Do they change something in sdio core or only wlan driver?
Apr 09 10:59:01 <leviathan> or like mickeyl says: "works like charm"
Apr 09 10:59:12 <leviathan> PaulFertser: sdio core
Apr 09 10:59:15 <PaulFertser> Anyway, cool, congrats :)
Apr 09 10:59:22 <leviathan> thx ^^
Apr 09 10:59:42 <PaulFertser> leviathan: aha, so you confirm that the chip is quirky and needs some very unusual special handling :|
Apr 09 11:00:16 <leviathan> yes
Apr 09 11:00:56 <leviathan> as long as it isnt hp... every thing beautyfull ;-D
Apr 09 11:01:09 <leviathan> hp is so dawn fucking worse engineered
Apr 09 11:01:24 <leviathan> I had some of theire laptop open
Apr 09 11:01:34 <leviathan> they do not have any clue, I fear
Apr 09 11:01:52 <TAsn> Q-Master, we can.
Apr 09 11:02:04 <TAsn> Q-Master, we just didn't think about when we did it.
Apr 09 11:02:08 <TAsn> nothing more to that.
Apr 09 11:02:22 <TAsn> We did it as a temporary stub until we do it right.
Apr 09 11:03:05 <Q-Master> TAsn: add plz those 3 lines.
Apr 09 11:03:32 <TAsn> will add, sec.
Apr 09 11:07:38 <CIA-32> SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * ra258f9b6dbd2 10/src/phoneui-utils.c: Fixed the display name if surname is the only one available
Apr 09 11:07:58 <mickeyl> leviathan: :)
Apr 09 11:08:24 <mickeyl> full hang on ifconfig wlan0 down is very annoying though...
Apr 09 11:08:32 * mickeyl doesn't like to do the "battery" thing
Apr 09 11:09:16 <alabd> vanous123, could you paste from terminal into gtk ? by which keys do you paste into terminal ?
Apr 09 11:10:34 <TAsn2> Hey, my connection is causing trouble
Apr 09 11:10:42 <TAsn2> JaMa: please build libphone-ui
Apr 09 11:10:42 <TAsn2> anyhow, fixed it.
Apr 09 11:10:50 <TAsn2> have fun, see you later.
Apr 09 11:11:10 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r0e4ad79427e2 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio: add SetVolume() and GetVolume()
Apr 09 11:11:10 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rc00744ed4fa7 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio: all methods can at least throw org.freesmartphone.Error
Apr 09 11:11:22 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r78ac33612ccc 10/fsodeviced/src/ (lib/audiorouter.vala plugins/audio/plugin.vala): 
Apr 09 11:11:22 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: catch up with changes in org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio API
Apr 09 11:11:22 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: Add stubs for GetVolume and SetVolume
Apr 09 11:11:28 <alabd> how to access folder in GUI mode in shr ?
Apr 09 11:11:45 <JaMa> TAsnn: ok, running
Apr 09 11:12:24 <alabd> by which keys do you paste into terminal ? TAsnn 
Apr 09 11:12:28 <alabd> JaMa, ^
Apr 09 11:13:24 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * redccd15c425f 10/tools/fso-boot/README: fso-boot: README++
Apr 09 11:13:52 <alabd> any opinion ?
Apr 09 11:17:14 <JaMa> with icon above terminal
Apr 09 11:18:09 <alabd> JaMa, which icon can not see it
Apr 09 11:18:52 <JaMa> is it vala-terminal?
Apr 09 11:19:18 <vanous123> alabd: in term, there is an icon for paste
Apr 09 11:20:55 <vanous123> alabd: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Copy_.26_Paste , i did not cover "between applications yet" :)
Apr 09 11:20:56 <alabd> vanous123,  JaMa  it does not work when we choose a text from e.g ventura
Apr 09 11:22:42 <alabd> bbl 
Apr 09 11:33:54 * graziano reads backlog
Apr 09 11:35:02 <leviathan> mickeyl: yes
Apr 09 11:35:08 <leviathan> and there are some other issues
Apr 09 11:35:16 <leviathan> if you build it from official repo
Apr 09 11:35:25 <leviathan> somehow the initscripts are broken
Apr 09 11:35:50 <leviathan> neither the gui nor the fso services come up on start uo
Apr 09 11:36:02 <leviathan> and also I can't activate the gsm antenna
Apr 09 11:36:03 <leviathan> ...
Apr 09 11:39:48 <mickeyl> gsm works fine here
Apr 09 11:39:56 <mickeyl> SetFunctionality doesn't work?
Apr 09 11:40:02 <mickeyl> (after requesting the resource)
Apr 09 11:40:12 <mrmoku> leviathan: SetAntennaPower is no more :P
Apr 09 11:40:20 <mickeyl> i will create an image that launches into zhone2 and activates everything automatically on weekend
Apr 09 11:40:39 <graziano> great
Apr 09 11:41:20 <mickeyl> then we have something nice to demo
Apr 09 11:44:41 <mrmoku> what machine does one have to build for the dream?
Apr 09 11:45:58 <TAsn> mrmoku, well, what's the verdict concerning EFL? :P
Apr 09 11:46:33 <mrmoku> TAsn: good moment to ask... completely hanging right now ;)
Apr 09 11:46:43 <mrmoku> (though probably not EFL's fault :)
Apr 09 11:47:08 <mrmoku> TAsn: yup, think we can just bump it
Apr 09 11:47:30 <mrmoku> TAsn: btw. started to use elm_notify... really nice :)
Apr 09 11:47:56 <mickeyl> mrmoku: t-mobile G1 or google adp-1
Apr 09 11:47:58 <TAsn> mrmoku, I also started using it (a while ago)
Apr 09 11:48:05 <mickeyl> mrmoku: ah, htcdream you mean
Apr 09 11:48:11 <mrmoku> mickeyl: yeah, in OE
Apr 09 11:48:20 <TAsn> mrmoku, try to insert a bad number in sms-> add number
Apr 09 11:48:21 <mrmoku> htcdream that is... easy to remember :)
Apr 09 11:48:53 <JaMa> no fish? :)
Apr 09 11:52:45 <mickeyl> mrmoku: :)
Apr 09 11:53:50 <mrmoku> TAsn: what is a bad number?
Apr 09 11:54:06 <TAsn> ##123##
Apr 09 11:54:11 <mrmoku> ahh now i see
Apr 09 11:54:21 <mrmoku> you beat me to it :P
Apr 09 11:54:54 <TAsn> :)
Apr 09 11:55:01 <mrmoku> we should style them to be more visible
Apr 09 11:55:13 <leviathan> mickeyl: hi have a resource which will allow much faster work
Apr 09 11:55:20 <leviathan> 16 cores, 24gig ram
Apr 09 11:55:27 <mrmoku> ohhh
Apr 09 11:55:41 * mrmoku wants such a resource too :D
Apr 09 11:55:43 <leviathan> stands somewhere in the rz of my high school
Apr 09 11:56:03 <leviathan> mrmoku: study electrical engineering in eth ;-P
Apr 09 11:56:23 <JaMa> mrmoku: use fsoraw -r 16cores24gigRam -- less /etc/shr-version
Apr 09 11:56:23 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 09 11:56:34 <playya> do you have any study fees in switzerland?
Apr 09 11:56:42 <mrmoku> JaMa: will try :P
Apr 09 11:57:02 * JaMa was thinking about going to Ph.D. study in eth :)
Apr 09 11:57:09 <leviathan> playya: yes
Apr 09 11:57:27 <leviathan> playya: they aren't low
Apr 09 11:57:33 <playya> :/
Apr 09 11:57:38 <leviathan> JaMa: its a technical highschool
Apr 09 11:57:50 <leviathan> you only can learn enginnering things there
Apr 09 11:58:00 <leviathan> its eidgenössisch technische hochschule
Apr 09 11:58:05 <leviathan> but I always say
Apr 09 11:58:11 <JaMa> leviathan: :) adhoc wireless networks are also technical enough :)
Apr 09 11:58:13 <leviathan> electro technical highschool ;D
Apr 09 11:58:18 <leviathan> ETH
Apr 09 11:58:22 <leviathan> ETH
Apr 09 11:58:58 <JaMa> PhD = posgradual here... confusing..
Apr 09 11:59:44 <mickeyl> leviathan: cool stuff
Apr 09 12:00:46 <mrmoku> mickeyl: hmm is it possible FeeSmartphoneGSMSIMEntry has number and name swapped?
Apr 09 12:00:54 <mrmoku> +r
Apr 09 12:02:00 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rdc1c2e21744f 10/ (13 files in 7 dirs): 
Apr 09 12:02:00 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: libfsoframework: remove alsa support
Apr 09 12:02:00 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: add alsa support
Apr 09 12:03:02 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 12:03:03 <mickeyl> mrmoku: could be
Apr 09 12:03:25 <mickeyl> mrmoku: i'll take a look soon
Apr 09 12:03:31 <mrmoku> thanks
Apr 09 12:03:47 <mrmoku> using that for the sim manager now
Apr 09 12:04:12 <mickeyl> cool
Apr 09 12:04:39 <mrmoku> sim contacts from fsogsmd are FAST btw :)
Apr 09 12:04:56 <mrmoku> it caches them, right?
Apr 09 12:05:03 <mickeyl> yeah
Apr 09 12:05:14 <mickeyl> on startup it writes them into the filesystem
Apr 09 12:05:17 <mickeyl> then reads from there
Apr 09 12:05:43 <mrmoku> much faster than TAsn's sqlite pim crap ;)
Apr 09 12:05:51 <TAsn> really?
Apr 09 12:05:52 <mickeyl> hehe. plus codecs being done in C as opposed to python helps a lot
Apr 09 12:05:56 <mrmoku> TAsn: please rewrite :P
Apr 09 12:05:59 <TAsn> :P
Apr 09 12:06:13 <TAsn> Makes sense, as you don't do any filtering.
Apr 09 12:07:12 <mrmoku> sim manager fills in under a second now :)
Apr 09 12:08:24 <mickeyl> btw.
Apr 09 12:08:47 <mickeyl> i'm thinking about enhancing vala-dbus-binding-tool to create two interface classes for every interface
Apr 09 12:08:54 <mickeyl> the default will stay as is
Apr 09 12:08:59 <TAsn> mickeyl, and a sync one?
Apr 09 12:09:00 <TAsn> :P
Apr 09 12:09:01 <mickeyl> but additionally there will be a FooSync
Apr 09 12:09:06 <TAsn> Yay.
Apr 09 12:09:07 <TAsn> please do!
Apr 09 12:09:08 <mickeyl> heh, how did you know?
Apr 09 12:09:29 <TAsn> mickeyl, I'm good at guessing :P
Apr 09 12:09:32 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 09 12:09:36 <mrmoku> mickeyl: TAsn is dreaming to use sync calls :/
Apr 09 12:09:41 <TAsn> exactly ^
Apr 09 12:10:01 <mickeyl> well, sync calls don't hurt as long as you know when to use them and when not
Apr 09 12:10:09 <mickeyl> i want to support people using threading
Apr 09 12:10:15 <mrmoku> yeah
Apr 09 12:10:16 <mickeyl> in that model sync calls make sense
Apr 09 12:10:33 <mrmoku> as then it does not matter if it blocks until timeout
Apr 09 12:10:36 <mickeyl> yep
Apr 09 12:10:40 <mickeyl> not everyone has the luxury of the 'async' keyword in Vala
Apr 09 12:10:48 <mickeyl> (which makes async calls looking like sync)
Apr 09 12:10:56 <mickeyl> (very convenient)
Apr 09 12:11:01 <mrmoku> or wants to dance the callback boogie :P
Apr 09 12:11:06 <mickeyl> righto
Apr 09 12:15:41 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2048a1fcbd49 10/fsodeviced/src/lib/alsa.vala: fsodeviced: add mainvolume index to BunchOfMixerControls
Apr 09 12:22:00 <CIA-32> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rc2c9295f6dd2 10/src/phoneui.c: phoneui.c: remove obsolete include of lfg stuff
Apr 09 12:22:00 <CIA-32> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r3ba6b87f5ce2 10/src/ (phoneui-info.c phoneui-info.h): phoneui-info: remove pdp callbacks - no PDP signals in FSO2
Apr 09 12:22:19 <CIA-32> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rd8e0014151c1 10/src/view/idle-view.c: idle-view: remove PDP signal handling - is no more with FSO2
Apr 09 12:23:24 <Gabrys> hi there
Apr 09 12:23:46 <Gabrys> shr-u here, I have the conflicting file /usr/include/scsi/scsi.h in libc6-dev and linux-libc-headers-dev
Apr 09 12:25:46 <soltys> :< nothing to upgrade un shr-u
Apr 09 12:25:47 <soltys> ;P
Apr 09 12:26:24 <JaMa> spaetz: connman is missing checksums.. or at least bitbake thinks so
Apr 09 12:29:08 <TAsn> mrmoku, what do we get instead of PDP then?
Apr 09 12:30:37 <mrmoku> TAsn: pdp status is a property in the normal network status signal
Apr 09 12:30:51 <TAsn> sweet
Apr 09 12:31:19 <mrmoku> # ( "pdp.registration", string ): The PDP access registration; values same as telephony registration.
Apr 09 12:31:22 <mrmoku> # ( "pdp.lac", string ): The PDP location area code string (if available).
Apr 09 12:31:26 <mrmoku> # ( "pdp.cid", string ): The PDP cell id string (if available).
Apr 09 12:33:44 <leviathan> ERROR: connman-0.51: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/network/connman/connman-0.51.tar.gz has no checksum defined, cannot check archive integrity
Apr 09 12:37:34 <mickeyl> OE_STRICT_CHECKSUMS = ""
Apr 09 12:37:37 <mickeyl> into conf/local.conf
Apr 09 12:37:57 <mrmoku> mickeyl: what is the state of SMS with fsogsmd... should work? because it does not for me
Apr 09 12:38:30 <mickeyl> -v please
Apr 09 12:38:35 <mickeyl> it should work
Apr 09 12:39:04 <mrmoku> well I sent myself one and did not receive it
Apr 09 12:39:17 <mrmoku> will turn on debug and retry
Apr 09 12:39:44 <mickeyl> ok
Apr 09 12:39:50 <mickeyl> ah
Apr 09 12:40:01 <mickeyl> can you first send it to somewhere else?
Apr 09 12:40:09 <mickeyl> so that we see whether sending or receiving is broken?
Apr 09 12:40:11 <mickeyl> (i think i know)
Apr 09 12:40:31 <mickeyl> chances are we don't enable listening yet for calypso
Apr 09 12:41:03 <mickeyl> i need to have one to test
Apr 09 12:41:11 <mickeyl> let me dig out mine and flash somethign
Apr 09 12:43:31 <mrmoku> mickeyl: I tried sending from my sipgate acount too
Apr 09 12:43:58 <mrmoku> will try to send to another destination from the FR then now
Apr 09 12:45:25 <mickeyl> yeah
Apr 09 12:48:22 <leviathan> mickeyl: ok
Apr 09 12:49:29 <leviathan> mickeyl: you're using zhone?
Apr 09 12:49:39 <mickeyl> zhone2
Apr 09 12:49:41 <mickeyl> yes
Apr 09 12:49:58 <rhkfin> mickeyl: how stable/usable zhone2 is? I know it
Apr 09 12:50:05 <rhkfin> 's only a rewrite, but.. anyway..
Apr 09 12:50:44 <alabd> by which keys do you paste in shr ?
Apr 09 12:50:51 <mickeyl> well, obviously there's a lot of stuff missing
Apr 09 12:50:55 <mickeyl> but you can place calls :)
Apr 09 12:51:05 <mickeyl> i'm only working on it since two weeks or so
Apr 09 12:51:11 <mickeyl> but it's going to be fully featured 
Apr 09 12:51:25 <rhkfin> ok, great!
Apr 09 12:51:41 <rhkfin> Expecting it to become THE phone software for Debian :)
Apr 09 12:52:58 <alabd> and is there any GUI app to see folders on shr ?
Apr 09 12:53:08 <mickeyl> rhkfin: hopefully :)
Apr 09 12:53:44 <rhkfin> :)
Apr 09 12:53:50 <mickeyl> rhkfin: once the functionality is there, we can talk about revamping the UI completely. I'm open to almost anything as long as it stays a standalone app 
Apr 09 12:54:13 <rhkfin> paroli?
Apr 09 12:54:31 <mickeyl> yeah, we can turn it into paroli, if we want
Apr 09 12:54:37 <rhkfin> not bad
Apr 09 12:54:45 <rhkfin> (I guess nobody wants:)?
Apr 09 12:55:14 <mrmoku> mickeyl: sending works
Apr 09 12:55:23 <mickeyl> mrmoku: thanks, then i know what it is
Apr 09 12:55:36 <mrmoku> goo
Apr 09 12:55:37 <mrmoku> d
Apr 09 12:55:43 <mrmoku> will be back later to test :P
Apr 09 12:55:49 <mrmoku> cu
Apr 09 12:56:06 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * r7b34e5089a46 10/palmpre/preboot/ (data/themes/default/default.edc src/main.vala): preboot: Fix Compilation
Apr 09 12:56:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * r9fc5a9084833 10/palmpre/preboot/ (8 files in 4 dirs): palmpre/preboot: Add new .edj
Apr 09 12:56:09 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * r70a1428881aa 10/palmpre/.gitignore: palmpre/preboot: Add .gitignore
Apr 09 12:56:15 <mickeyl> rhkfin: to be honest, i found the paroli idea great and even appreciated the clean looks (much text, few pictures, clean and concise).
Apr 09 12:57:25 <mickeyl> so if we can bring paroli's good things into zhone2, i'm all for it
Apr 09 12:58:44 <playya> is anyone still working on paroli?
Apr 09 12:59:11 <playya> homepage seems to be down :(
Apr 09 12:59:34 <mickeyl> i think the pyneo guys picked it up
Apr 09 12:59:52 <rhkfin> mickeyl: nice
Apr 09 12:59:58 <rhkfin> vegyraupe: paroliping
Apr 09 13:01:13 <Q-Master> someone is needing paroli now???
Apr 09 13:01:15 <alabd> how to paste selected text from terminal into other places e.g pidgin
Apr 09 13:01:44 <Q-Master> alabd: RMB->paste
Apr 09 13:01:44 <Q-Master> 8)
Apr 09 13:02:10 <alabd> Q-Master, thanks , what is RMB ?
Apr 09 13:02:21 <alabd> in shr
Apr 09 13:02:22 <Q-Master> right mouse button
Apr 09 13:03:01 <alabd> ? in fr with shr how to right click  ? 
Apr 09 13:03:20 <Q-Master> no idea really. never used that feature
Apr 09 13:03:39 <alabd> any keys ? ctrl+v does not work
Apr 09 13:03:54 <alabd> TAsn,  does that topic about right click have result ?
Apr 09 13:04:04 <TAsn> alabd, yes, there's a ticket about it.
Apr 09 13:04:09 <TAsn> And I'll implement it when I have time.
Apr 09 13:04:35 <alabd> ok by which keys we can paste in shr ?
Apr 09 13:04:48 <rhkfin> I guess you can't.
Apr 09 13:04:52 <alabd> ctrl+v does not work
Apr 09 13:04:53 <vegyraupe> rhkfin: hey, yes server is unavail, not sure why
Apr 09 13:04:57 <rhkfin> :/
Apr 09 13:04:59 <TAsn> alabd, no idea. :P
Apr 09 13:05:06 <rhkfin> and hi vegyraupe  :)
Apr 09 13:05:08 <vegyraupe> rhkfin: but I don't have access to the machine right now
Apr 09 13:05:14 <rhkfin> vegyraupe: ok
Apr 09 13:05:47 <rhkfin> Looks like that paroli still has some chances for a new life, if zhone2 + paroli are a match..
Apr 09 13:06:02 <rhkfin> How about pyneo.. haven't heard anything for a long time..
Apr 09 13:06:06 <spaetz> TAsn: the fsodeviced rev I picked fails to compile. I don't have time to investigate now. Will have to bump tomorrow.
Apr 09 13:06:56 <TAsn> spaetz, sure thing. mind if mrmoku|away and JaMa give it a go?
Apr 09 13:08:57 <spaetz> I'd be happy :)
Apr 09 13:09:23 <spaetz> Just pick a good cornucopia rev and have Jama stick it in sane-srcrevs
Apr 09 13:09:43 <spaetz> My wife's birthday today. She'll be pissed if I don't leave now :)
Apr 09 13:09:49 <spaetz> so bye...
Apr 09 13:10:54 <playya> bye
Apr 09 13:11:23 <JaMa> spaetzAway, TAsn: fsodeviced compiled fine in shr-u.. I'll add checksum to connman-0.51 then
Apr 09 13:11:45 <TAsn> JaMa, I know, we are talking about shr-t.
Apr 09 13:12:42 <JaMa> TAsn: same rev
Apr 09 13:13:15 <TAsn> well, he probably didn't build libframework or libfsotransport or whatever the names are :P
Apr 09 13:14:10 <JaMa> bitbake did as it's dependendy of fsodeviced (I guess), I'll check why it failed in shr-t
Apr 09 13:16:29 <vegyraupe_> rhkfin: not sure about paroli and zhone2 (wherever that might come from :P) for now I am loving da qt a lot :)
Apr 09 13:16:30 <JaMa> mickeyl: it this because shr-t needs newer vala then 0.7.10.3? The name `directional_event' does not exist in the context of `Kernel.AggregateInputDevice'
Apr 09 13:17:12 <spaetzAway> need to leave NOW, but Jama:
Apr 09 13:17:18 <spaetzAway> this is the build error log:
Apr 09 13:17:19 <rhkfin> vegyraupe_: well, I wouldn't mind you writing a c00l qt phone software either :)
Apr 09 13:17:19 <spaetzAway> /home/shr/shr-testing/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/fsodeviced-1_0.9.0+gitr867+32e7e15e1a33aee9fa4830d8919e2bb9bb3eae1f-r2.10/temp/log.do_compile.4288
Apr 09 13:17:29 <JaMa> spaetzAway: that's what I'm reading
Apr 09 13:17:47 <mickeyl> JaMa: directional_event is relatively new, you need to rebuild specs and libfso-glib for that
Apr 09 13:17:56 <JaMa> mickeyl: thanks
Apr 09 13:18:03 <vegyraupe_> rhkfin: for now it is a bit more trivial ;) all about openzim
Apr 09 13:18:45 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r1a61bd66c7e0 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: 
Apr 09 13:18:46 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: map 'y' (BYTE) to uint8 instead of uchar; the latter crashed until today.
Apr 09 13:18:46 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: For details see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=615282
Apr 09 13:19:21 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r8e6868c6a2fe 10/configure.ac: post-release-bump
Apr 09 13:19:32 <vegyraupe_> rhkfin: once sharism builds something with gsm I am sure I'll get back on it
Apr 09 13:20:52 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * recaa94671286 10/fsodeviced/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fsodeviced: work towards implementation of get/set volume
Apr 09 13:21:53 <alabd> <TAsn> alabd, presian chars: looks like gtk is doing something wrong and I'm doing something right
Apr 09 13:22:45 <TAsn> that's true.
Apr 09 13:23:17 <leviathan> mickeyl: error: file '/scratch/build_oe/tmp/work/armv6-novfp-oe-linux-gnueabi/zhone-0.0.2+gitr0+adc2a5e3d49b11cc2753a8e01f240b7e72dc5dba-r13/git/src/zhone-fsogsmd' does not exist
Apr 09 13:23:19 <alabd> any result ?
Apr 09 13:23:20 <leviathan> wtf?
Apr 09 13:23:38 <alabd> TAsn,  those persian layouts on host are not ok should be changed >>> http://imagebin.org/92362
Apr 09 13:23:41 <TAsn> alabd, haven't tested anything, I was just stating this :P
Apr 09 13:23:54 <TAsn> OH
Apr 09 13:24:02 <TAsn> JaMa, take a look at that screenshot
Apr 09 13:24:06 <TAsn> lol
Apr 09 13:24:09 <alabd> TAsn, who should remove them ? 
Apr 09 13:24:12 <TAsn> sec
Apr 09 13:24:14 <TAsn> I'll take a look.
Apr 09 13:24:21 <alabd> how many times should be said that they are not ok 
Apr 09 13:24:26 <leviathan> I'd like to make a reptiloid translation:  ᔖᕍᓈ ᓈᑲᑪᕋ ᔖᖭ
Apr 09 13:24:28 <leviathan> ^^
Apr 09 13:24:36 <TAsn> alabd, I thought you meant something else.
Apr 09 13:24:36 <leviathan> joke
Apr 09 13:24:37 <alabd> instead of that humble have a persian.kbd that is ok
Apr 09 13:24:41 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 13:24:48 <TAsn> alabd, so please send that to me.
Apr 09 13:24:49 <mickeyl> leviathan: ??
Apr 09 13:24:49 <leviathan> but cree alphabet would be nice
Apr 09 13:24:56 <mickeyl> leviathan: zhone-fsogsmd, never seen that
Apr 09 13:25:00 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 13:25:25 <TAsn> nvm I have it.
Apr 09 13:25:27 <JaMa> TAsn: nice one :)
Apr 09 13:25:36 <mickeyl> leviathan: looks like a bogus rev
Apr 09 13:25:39 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 13:25:45 <mickeyl> leviathan: b592a5f5b4175fd1456d5716c025b1aab9366467 would be current
Apr 09 13:25:47 <mickeyl> I'd advise to use
Apr 09 13:25:49 <mickeyl> fso-autorev.inc
Apr 09 13:25:54 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 13:25:56 <leviathan> strange thing
Apr 09 13:25:59 <mickeyl> for zhone2 you need it
Apr 09 13:26:02 <alabd> JaMa,  there are 3 persian illume layout that are so 
Apr 09 13:26:06 <leviathan> I've required it
Apr 09 13:26:07 <mickeyl> since i'm working on that all the time
Apr 09 13:26:09 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 09 13:26:11 <leviathan> and shr-autorev
Apr 09 13:26:11 <mickeyl> strange
Apr 09 13:26:14 <leviathan> mhm
Apr 09 13:26:21 <alabd> JaMa,  here http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/all/ you can test and then remove them 
Apr 09 13:26:25 <TAsn> JaMa, please build that.
Apr 09 13:26:29 <TAsn> alabd, fixed
Apr 09 13:26:30 <Heinervdm> leviathan: that looks like you've build zhone not zhone2
Apr 09 13:26:33 <leviathan> mickeyl: is zhone2-image already out?
Apr 09 13:26:37 <mickeyl> no
Apr 09 13:26:39 <mickeyl> on weekend
Apr 09 13:26:41 <CIA-32> SHR: 03tom 07illume-keyboards * r8b0b101da542 10/persian/Persian.kbd: Fixed persian keyboard
Apr 09 13:26:42 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 13:26:43 <TAsn> JaMa, 8b0b101da542aab216ca8bec2f52908e80cf311c
Apr 09 13:26:53 <mickeyl> ah, right
Apr 09 13:26:56 <mickeyl> that's zhone
Apr 09 13:26:57 <mickeyl> not zhone2
Apr 09 13:27:38 <alabd> TAsn,  what do you mean of fixed ?
Apr 09 13:27:46 <TAsn> <CIA-32> SHR: tom illume-keyboards * r8b0b101da542 /persian/Persian.kbd: Fixed persian keyboard
Apr 09 13:27:51 <TAsn> JaMa will build it.
Apr 09 13:28:01 <mickeyl> leviathan: anways, you found a bug :)
Apr 09 13:28:18 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07zhone * rb362bef6a4f1 10/setup.py: remove traces of zhone-fsogsmd, it will never be done
Apr 09 13:28:21 <alabd> TAsn,  which ?
Apr 09 13:28:30 <TAsn> alabd, huh?
Apr 09 13:28:35 <TAsn> I fixed it, jama will build it.
Apr 09 13:28:39 <TAsn> and you'll be able to get it soon
Apr 09 13:28:40 <alabd> can not get what you mean
Apr 09 13:28:47 <JaMa> TAsn: are you sure? :)
Apr 09 13:28:52 <alabd> TAsn,  how did you fix it so fast ?
Apr 09 13:28:57 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rcb2e024c1e51 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_ti_calypso/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: modem_ti_calypso: enable SMS URCs for mrmoku
Apr 09 13:29:09 <alabd> many words should be replaced in .kbd file
Apr 09 13:29:10 <TAsn> alabd, because I had the correct layout here
Apr 09 13:29:26 <TAsn> just didn't commit it.
Apr 09 13:29:32 <TAsn> know what?
Apr 09 13:29:42 <alabd> can humble see it's kbd file ?
Apr 09 13:29:53 <TAsn> http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=illume-keyboards.git;a=blob;f=persian/Persian.kbd;h=7b1f938e9d724d14109a211f843a7e2effb23f2c;hb=8b0b101da542aab216ca8bec2f52908e80cf311c
Apr 09 13:29:56 <TAsn> is this correct?
Apr 09 13:30:46 <alabd> yes for example line 50 is wrong
Apr 09 13:31:00 <alabd> oh
Apr 09 13:31:08 <alabd> that os the file humble sent you before
Apr 09 13:31:11 <alabd> it is not ok
Apr 09 13:31:27 <TAsn> yeah, that's what you sent before
Apr 09 13:31:32 <TAsn> Ok, so please send me the newest
Apr 09 13:31:36 <alabd> JaMa,  build this http://pastebin.com/7MVDRgWn
Apr 09 13:31:40 <TAsn> and we'll build it.
Apr 09 13:32:10 * JaMa is leaving in few mins (trying to push connman revs and fix shr-t..)
Apr 09 13:32:37 <alabd> jama those bad packages maybe hsould be removed
Apr 09 13:32:39 <TAsn> here ya go, committed it.
Apr 09 13:32:42 <TAsn> have fun.
Apr 09 13:32:58 <CIA-32> SHR: 03tom 07illume-keyboards * r42271b8c6b1f 10/persian/Persian.kbd: Now really fixed Persian layout according to alabd
Apr 09 13:33:19 <alabd> thanks
Apr 09 13:33:53 <alabd> TAsn,  but you those 4 chars are problem yet
Apr 09 13:34:09 <TAsn> I know.
Apr 09 13:34:19 <TAsn> And as I said, it's something to discuss in #e, not here.
Apr 09 13:34:24 <TAsn> As I have no clue about it.
Apr 09 13:34:30 <alabd> are so ...  normal   چ "چ"
Apr 09 13:34:35 <TAsn> And to be honest, I doubt they will.
Apr 09 13:34:42 <alabd> yes talked there those person 
Apr 09 13:34:53 <alabd> no result
Apr 09 13:34:59 <TAsn> the only guys who may know are the Persian devs of Xorg :P
Apr 09 13:34:59 <leviathan> alabd: thats deserters language
Apr 09 13:35:11 <TAsn> And even so, I doubt it.
Apr 09 13:35:28 <alabd> thanks
Apr 09 13:35:41 <leviathan> oh moment
Apr 09 13:35:53 <leviathan> correct arabian still have this symbols
Apr 09 13:36:07 <TAsn> leviathan, a lot of people speak persian
Apr 09 13:36:11 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 13:36:32 <TAsn> and even if this wasn't the case, if it's in unicode, it should also be supported by X
Apr 09 13:36:36 <TAsn> (and X input)
Apr 09 13:36:38 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 13:36:48 <TAsn> with that being said.
Apr 09 13:36:51 <TAsn> I have no clue :P
Apr 09 13:37:03 <alabd> TAsn, you know ubuntu used some addresses
Apr 09 13:37:08 <TAsn> I can barely handle hebrew :P
Apr 09 13:37:16 <TAsn> alabd, ?
Apr 09 13:37:17 <leviathan> hebrew is cool
Apr 09 13:37:23 <leviathan> not so much symbols
Apr 09 13:37:31 <leviathan> but the prononciation rules are crap
Apr 09 13:37:33 <alabd> but those addresses does not work in shr
Apr 09 13:37:42 <leviathan> I prefer canadian syllabics
Apr 09 13:38:00 <TAsn> leviathan, we have 26 letters
Apr 09 13:38:14 <leviathan> perhaps I should make a translation into north-indian language
Apr 09 13:38:18 <TAsn> and 8 symbols that can be drawn on top of letters
Apr 09 13:38:24 <leviathan> hmm, is there hebrew translation?
Apr 09 13:38:26 <TAsn> maybe more than 8, not sure.
Apr 09 13:38:34 <TAsn> leviathan, google translate.
Apr 09 13:38:41 <leviathan> nope, I ment for SHR
Apr 09 13:38:42 <leviathan> :)
Apr 09 13:38:51 <TAsn> leviathan, oh, I don't think so.
Apr 09 13:39:09 <TAsn> I hate having a localized interface
Apr 09 13:39:17 <TAsn> so I didn't bother to translate
Apr 09 13:39:24 <leviathan> would be a nice shot for excersing my obligated GESS study for the bachelor diploma
Apr 09 13:39:34 <TAsn> I just made hebrew possible.
Apr 09 13:39:35 <TAsn> GESS?
Apr 09 13:39:38 <leviathan> because I think I'll learn hebrew
Apr 09 13:39:40 <leviathan> yes
Apr 09 13:39:50 <TAsn> what's that?
Apr 09 13:39:54 <leviathan> because they do  not want us to only do technical stuff
Apr 09 13:40:02 <leviathan> we also have to do some philosophic
Apr 09 13:40:11 <leviathan> so spirit science
Apr 09 13:40:21 <leviathan> so you have to learn languages or so
Apr 09 13:40:35 <leviathan> and because my grandmother was jewish
Apr 09 13:40:46 <vegyraupe_> playya: page is back
Apr 09 13:40:48 <leviathan> I already understand a bit hebrew
Apr 09 13:40:53 <playya> vegyraupe_, thx
Apr 09 13:40:58 <vegyraupe_> mickeyl: paroli is still my baby, noone took it over ;)
Apr 09 13:41:00 <TAsn> leviathan, :| hebrew sucks.
Apr 09 13:41:06 <leviathan> its cool ^_^
Apr 09 13:41:13 <TAsn> leviathan, and barely useful on a computer
Apr 09 13:41:21 <TAsn> (because of the RTL crap)
Apr 09 13:41:22 <leviathan> but learning it correctly will suck
Apr 09 13:41:33 <leviathan> TAsn: thats the matter of the computer
Apr 09 13:41:46 <TAsn> RTL also sucks in real life.
Apr 09 13:41:52 <leviathan> with enough modern technology keyboards are not needed anmore
Apr 09 13:42:10 <TAsn> Since we (and all the world) use Arabic numerals
Apr 09 13:42:15 <JaMa> alabd, TAsn: changed rev pushed, build restarted.. if everything goes good, fix will be in feeds in 15 mins or so
Apr 09 13:42:22 <leviathan> they're not really arabic
Apr 09 13:42:23 <TAsn> which are LTR
Apr 09 13:42:25 <leviathan> theyre indian
Apr 09 13:42:34 <alabd> JaMa|Away,  thanks
Apr 09 13:42:34 <leviathan> they just took it for trading
Apr 09 13:42:53 <alabd> bye 4 now
Apr 09 13:43:02 <leviathan> our modern number system was invented by indian monks
Apr 09 13:43:07 <leviathan> but anyway
Apr 09 13:43:13 <leviathan> personally I prefer mayan numbers
Apr 09 13:43:17 <leviathan> from 1 to 19
Apr 09 13:43:18 <leviathan> :)
Apr 09 13:43:51 <TAsn> either way
Apr 09 13:43:53 <TAsn> it's LTR
Apr 09 13:44:05 <TAsn> which means embedding math inside hebrew text is terrible.
Apr 09 13:45:12 <TAsn> Anyhow, you should learn italian/french/german/spanish (any of these which you don't already know)
Apr 09 13:45:13 <leviathan> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Maya.svg
Apr 09 13:45:17 <TAsn> Or even japanese :P
Apr 09 13:45:25 <TAsn> but not hebrew, bah :)
Apr 09 13:45:35 <leviathan> what a pitty I cant find maya-numbers in unicode
Apr 09 13:45:51 <leviathan> would be nice to patch maxima to use them instead
Apr 09 13:46:07 <leviathan> and a nice keyboard for cree-alphabet+maya-numbers would be nice too
Apr 09 13:46:09 <leviathan> ^^
Apr 09 13:47:11 <TAsn> sucks :P
Apr 09 13:47:15 <TAsn> Anyhow, I'm off.
Apr 09 13:47:59 <leviathan> kk
Apr 09 13:48:03 <leviathan> other thema
Apr 09 13:48:11 <leviathan> I'm building atm this zhone-image
Apr 09 13:48:37 <leviathan> mickeyl: let's see if it builds now with the revision you gave me
Apr 09 13:55:53 <leviathan> mickeyl: the problem lies in openembedded
Apr 09 13:56:24 <leviathan> the recipe wants a binary of which you "removed traces"
Apr 09 13:56:42 <leviathan> mickeyl: should I do a patch?
Apr 09 13:57:27 <mickeyl> first a question
Apr 09 13:57:32 <mickeyl> why do you want to build zhone-image?
Apr 09 13:57:38 <mickeyl> it will not work on your dream
Apr 09 13:58:17 <leviathan> hmm?
Apr 09 13:58:29 <leviathan> It won't?
Apr 09 13:58:37 <mickeyl> probably not
Apr 09 13:58:40 <mickeyl> that's all very old
Apr 09 13:58:50 <mickeyl> and support for the qualcomm_htc modem was only preliminary
Apr 09 13:58:56 <leviathan> oh, ok
Apr 09 13:59:07 <mickeyl> i'd take fso2-demo-image
Apr 09 13:59:11 <mickeyl> which contains zhone2
Apr 09 13:59:11 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 13:59:19 <leviathan> other question
Apr 09 13:59:42 <leviathan> this problem with broken service autostart
Apr 09 13:59:48 <leviathan> do you also have these?
Apr 09 13:59:56 <mickeyl> which services? 
Apr 09 14:00:03 <leviathan> fso-services+xorg
Apr 09 14:00:12 <leviathan> they all refuse to autostart
Apr 09 14:00:14 <mickeyl> fsodeviced and fsousaged start fine here
Apr 09 14:00:18 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 14:00:23 <mickeyl> xorg is not installed here
Apr 09 14:00:29 <mickeyl> fsogsmd needs to be started manualyl for now
Apr 09 14:00:43 <leviathan> I can't activate the gsm  antenna either
Apr 09 14:00:44 <leviathan> ...
Apr 09 14:00:55 <leviathan> But I'll try it with fso2-demo-image
Apr 09 14:02:04 <alabd> TAsn,  see in ubuntu this kind codes (0x10006f2, )have been used instead of key symbol for those 4 chars 
Apr 09 14:03:10 <leviathan> next very ennoy'n step will be to fix input method
Apr 09 14:03:15 <leviathan> atm I cant type - and /
Apr 09 14:03:18 <leviathan> -.-
Apr 09 14:08:05 <mickeyl> proper xmodmap?
Apr 09 14:08:27 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 14:08:48 <alabd> TAsn,  so what is the difference between ubuntu and shr keybaord layouts that this code 0x100200d does not work on shr 
Apr 09 14:10:26 <TAsn> alabd, I haven't checked this, so no idea, and sorry, I'm mostly not here atm.
Apr 09 14:11:06 <alabd> TAsn,  are shr and ubuntu keyboard system the same
Apr 09 14:11:31 <TAsn> no idea, I'm not familiar with e's keyboard emulation internals
Apr 09 14:11:42 <alabd> mean what is e ?
Apr 09 14:11:48 <TAsn> e = e17 = enlightenment
Apr 09 14:11:59 <alabd> ubuntu also uses that ?
Apr 09 14:12:02 <TAsn> no
Apr 09 14:12:06 <alabd> so what ?
Apr 09 14:12:29 <alabd> in ubuntu files are in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols
Apr 09 14:12:37 <TAsn> those are X11 symbols
Apr 09 14:12:51 <TAsn> if ours are different than ubuntu's this is bad, and probably the cause.
Apr 09 14:12:58 <alabd> so shr uses e17 and ubuntu used instead X11 
Apr 09 14:13:03 <TAsn> no
Apr 09 14:13:08 <TAsn> we both use X11
Apr 09 14:13:15 <TAsn> shr uses e17 above that
Apr 09 14:13:46 <alabd> can not we use X11 for keyboard leyouts ?
Apr 09 14:13:47 <TAsn> and ubuntu uses gnome (or whatever) libraries on top of that.
Apr 09 14:13:51 <TAsn> we do.
Apr 09 14:14:09 <alabd> so why those code do not work in shr ? 
Apr 09 14:14:12 <TAsn> To sum things up: I gotta go. :P
Apr 09 14:14:20 <TAsn> alabd, that's the mystery.
Apr 09 14:14:39 <alabd> maybe cause of .kbd file 
Apr 09 14:14:47 <alabd> in shr we have .kbd
Apr 09 14:15:01 <TAsn> no
Apr 09 14:15:04 <TAsn> it's not because of that.
Apr 09 14:15:12 <alabd> but in ubuntu C surce code is used
Apr 09 14:15:23 <TAsn> the problem is that it's not available for use in the kbd files
Apr 09 14:15:27 <TAsn> ok now for real, bye.
Apr 09 14:15:32 <TAsn> ask in #e
Apr 09 14:15:32 <alabd> ok bye
Apr 09 14:15:34 <alabd> thanks
Apr 09 14:27:22 <alabd> yes  /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols files are the same 
Apr 09 14:27:29 <alabd> in shr and ubuntu
Apr 09 14:41:56 <alabd> Good day all , Persian has 4 chars more than arabic language , What should be used as key symbol for those 4 chars ? ubuntu that uses gnome has not problem with those 4 chars but in SHR that uses e17 there is problem and don't now what should be used ?
Apr 09 14:45:02 <lindi-> alabd: don't use e17 :)
Apr 09 14:45:20 <alabd> how lindi- ?
Apr 09 14:46:12 <alabd> can gnime be used for shr ?
Apr 09 14:47:20 <alabd> in SHR with e17 we have /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Persian.kbd file where is this file for gnome ?
Apr 09 14:48:26 <lindi-> alabd: no idea, i'm using debian
Apr 09 14:48:42 <alabd> debian uses gnome lindi- 
Apr 09 14:48:53 <lindi-> alabd: debian includes gnome
Apr 09 14:49:06 <alabd> where is it's kbd file or it's equivalent
Apr 09 14:52:47 <alabd> any opinion ?
Apr 09 14:53:05 <lindi-> alabd: what kbd file? i don't use e17
Apr 09 14:53:25 <alabd> it has layout symbols
Apr 09 15:00:45 <playya> dos1, could you tell me the duration of your school holidays?
Apr 09 15:02:07 <dos1> playya: they start in ending of june and end in first of september
Apr 09 15:06:56 <mrmoku> mickeyl: thanks :)
Apr 09 15:07:19 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 09 15:19:23 * mrmoku rebooting to see if it works :)
Apr 09 15:49:54 <morphis> heyho
Apr 09 16:38:43 <TAsn> Damn, I timeout too much ;|
Apr 09 16:58:40 * DocScrutinizer bbl after fan replacement
Apr 09 18:05:50 <leviathan> mrmoku: hi
Apr 09 18:05:59 <leviathan> any idea where this could come from?
Apr 09 18:06:03 <leviathan> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~davidlan/downloads/log.do_compile.29842
Apr 09 18:06:08 <leviathan> I mean the error
Apr 09 18:06:19 <leviathan> happens if I try to build fso2-demo-image
Apr 09 18:11:58 <mrmoku> leviathan: yeah, have that too
Apr 09 18:12:08 <mrmoku> it's one of mickey|away's last commits 
Apr 09 18:12:15 <mrmoku> changing the alsa stuff
Apr 09 18:12:35 <mrmoku> guess you're using fso-autorev.inc too, right?
Apr 09 18:20:02 <pespin> mrmoku, I just received a blank message (from gilfriend... she'll kill me!)
Apr 09 18:20:25 <pespin> I suppouse it's phoneui fault? :S
Apr 09 18:20:33 <pespin> or is it possible to send blank messages?
Apr 09 18:20:46 <mrmoku> nah... maybe she's not much to say today? ;)
Apr 09 18:20:53 <pespin> heh
Apr 09 18:21:09 <mrmoku> guess it might be perfectly possibly to send blank messages
Apr 09 18:21:14 <mrmoku> never tried though
Apr 09 18:21:35 <ThibG> it is possible
Apr 09 18:21:37 <pespin> mrmoku, don't think so, catalan people are said to be really mean (with reason, I admit it :P)
Apr 09 18:21:55 <mrmoku> :)
Apr 09 18:22:22 <mrmoku> at least if someone is trying to speak spanish with them ;)
Apr 09 18:23:18 <pespin> hahaha nah, I'm ok speaking spanish too ;)
Apr 09 18:23:51 <mrmoku> pespin: and seriously speaking... receiving a message and have it blank then is something I did not experience yet... not receiving at all is another thing :P
Apr 09 18:23:58 <mrmoku> so dunno
Apr 09 18:24:07 <pespin> I'll call her
Apr 09 18:24:23 <mrmoku> :)
Apr 09 18:24:27 <mrmoku> better
Apr 09 18:24:36 <mrmoku> just to be on the safe side :)
Apr 09 18:25:42 <pespin> mrmoku, false alarm. fking touchscreen of LG mobiles :P
Apr 09 18:26:09 <pespin> the message was suppoused to be blank then indeed
Apr 09 18:27:09 <mrmoku> :;P
Apr 09 18:27:16 <mrmoku> good for me :)
Apr 09 18:27:25 <mrmoku> not a bug more to hung
Apr 09 18:27:32 <mrmoku> t
Apr 09 18:30:48 <pespin> mrmoku, don't worry, you have plenty of bugs waiting for you! :D
Apr 09 18:32:24 <mrmoku> yep :/
Apr 09 18:40:23 <leviathan> mrmoku: yes, I'm using autorev too
Apr 09 18:40:30 <leviathan> do you have a fix for it?
Apr 09 18:42:28 <leviathan> pespin: ask her, if she has written you a blank message
Apr 09 18:42:48 <leviathan> and tell her, that she has chosen a moment, where you're work was not totally error free
Apr 09 18:42:54 <leviathan> I hope she will understand
Apr 09 18:43:07 <leviathan> and if the message really was blank
Apr 09 18:43:19 <leviathan> perhaps she even can help testing it then
Apr 09 18:43:28 <JaMa|Away> mrmoku: I received one blank message (supposed to be not empty) last week
Apr 09 18:43:40 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 18:45:04 <JaMa> mrmoku: and my GF doesn't have phone with touchscreen and said later that she replied on something in that time when blank arrived..
Apr 09 18:47:24 <mrmoku> JaMa: :/
Apr 09 18:47:34 <mrmoku> leviathan: no, no fix yet
Apr 09 18:47:59 <mrmoku> tried an older rev that did not work either... trying even older rev now
Apr 09 18:50:44 <alabd> TAsn,  ping 
Apr 09 18:50:59 <TAsn> alabd, half pong.
Apr 09 18:51:07 <alabd> TAsn,  busy ?
Apr 09 18:51:33 <TAsn> not yet, but planning to be in a minute :)
Apr 09 18:52:27 <alabd> ok about that persian layout issue , maybe ubuntu uses X11 xkb files directly 
Apr 09 18:52:42 <alabd> becuase SHR has the same xkb files in X11 folder
Apr 09 18:53:21 <TAsn> alabd, are you able to find your missing characters in xkb's files?
Apr 09 18:53:41 <mrmoku> TAsn: it segfaulted again on resume... any idea how to debug?
Apr 09 18:53:46 <TAsn> know what? I'll fix it today or something.
Apr 09 18:53:48 <alabd> TAsn,  yes told you there those chars are shown with some codes 
Apr 09 18:53:54 <TAsn> mrmoku, e segs?
Apr 09 18:53:56 <mrmoku> yep
Apr 09 18:54:00 <alabd> and it seems in gnome everything is queried from the X server with xkb
Apr 09 18:54:15 <TAsn> mrmoku, a good start would be installing all the -dbg's
Apr 09 18:54:26 <TAsn> alabd, that's not true.
Apr 09 18:54:28 <mrmoku> and then?
Apr 09 18:54:41 <TAsn> mrmoku, gdb --pid=`pgrep enlightenment`
Apr 09 18:55:02 <mrmoku> it happens only occasionally :/
Apr 09 18:55:04 <alabd> TAsn,someone in  gnome channel said that everything is queried from the X server with xkb
Apr 09 18:55:21 <alabd> so if we make SHR uses those xkb files it would be ok 
Apr 09 18:55:23 <TAsn> either he's lying, or I don't remember correctly.
Apr 09 18:55:28 <TAsn> alabd, we do.
Apr 09 18:55:29 <alabd> because SHR has the same files
Apr 09 18:55:31 <TAsn> alabd, as said.
Apr 09 18:55:38 <TAsn> ok, I know how to fix it.
Apr 09 18:55:43 <TAsn> alabd, open a terminal
Apr 09 18:55:48 <alabd> ok
Apr 09 18:55:57 <TAsn> btw, in ubuntu
Apr 09 18:56:01 <TAsn> ok?
Apr 09 18:56:02 <alabd> ok
Apr 09 18:56:05 <TAsn> xev
Apr 09 18:56:09 <alabd> am in ubuntu tell
Apr 09 18:56:12 <TAsn> and insert the missing keys
Apr 09 18:56:26 <TAsn> (the 4 you are missing)
Apr 09 18:56:30 <TAsn> and give me the output
Apr 09 18:56:33 <leviathan> mrmoku: where the hell is mickey?
Apr 09 18:56:55 <TAsn> I care about lines like this: "KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001,"
Apr 09 18:56:59 <leviathan> let me guess: he is doing "private stuff"
Apr 09 18:57:04 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 18:57:08 <TAsn> and all the next lines until the next blank line
Apr 09 18:57:10 <TAsn> there should be 4
Apr 09 18:57:14 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 18:57:34 <mrmoku> probably
Apr 09 18:57:46 <alabd> TAsn,  which parts of result ?
Apr 09 18:57:51 <TAsn> as I said
Apr 09 18:57:55 <TAsn> <TAsn> I care about lines like this: "KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001,"
Apr 09 18:57:57 <TAsn> <TAsn> and all the next lines until the next blank line
Apr 09 18:58:01 <alabd> oh yes
Apr 09 19:00:35 <alabd> TAsn,  for char چ
Apr 09 19:00:38 <alabd> http://pastebin.com/8aPPg40X
Apr 09 19:00:45 <TAsn> put them all in the same paste
Apr 09 19:01:17 <alabd> all lines do you require?
Apr 09 19:01:37 <TAsn> just what you gave here is enough
Apr 09 19:01:59 <alabd> ok
Apr 09 19:02:06 <TAsn> and please also press a key that works in shr
Apr 09 19:02:19 <alabd> a char
Apr 09 19:02:20 <alabd> yes?
Apr 09 19:02:29 <TAsn> yes
Apr 09 19:02:30 <TAsn> Alif
Apr 09 19:02:33 <TAsn> or whatever
Apr 09 19:04:36 <TAsn> btw, what I'm seeing here just proves my point that gtk does wacky stuff and does not query X.
Apr 09 19:04:58 <TAsn> or in other words: tasn: 1, gnome: 0
Apr 09 19:06:06 <mrmoku> duh... one should remove fso-autorev.inc from local.conf when one wants to build older stuff :P
Apr 09 19:06:17 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 19:06:26 <leviathan> then fso2-demo-image builds?
Apr 09 19:06:36 <mrmoku> don't think so
Apr 09 19:06:49 <mrmoku> nothing fso2 builds with autorev right now
Apr 09 19:07:03 <leviathan> and without?
Apr 09 19:07:37 <leviathan> hmm, I'll just try it ^^
Apr 09 19:07:43 <mrmoku> without it should build... don't know if the revs set in OE are new enough for you
Apr 09 19:08:09 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 19:08:10 <JaMa> did i break fso-autorev with it simplifying?
Apr 09 19:08:42 <leviathan> mrmoku: btw: an alias in /etc/profile would be nice for play='mplayer -vo null'
Apr 09 19:08:53 <JaMa> mrmoku: with newest cornucopia rev, spaetz pushed this morning fsogsmd doesn't build
Apr 09 19:09:00 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 19:09:33 <alabd> TAsn,  would you say which words in those lines are important for you ?
Apr 09 19:09:51 * JaMa haven't checked it much because his buildhost is ocupied downloading internet for checksum check, and shr buildhost is still slow
Apr 09 19:10:15 <TAsn> alabd, the first part of what you just paste (i.e until the empty line) is important for me.
Apr 09 19:12:28 <alabd> TAsn, ok wait
Apr 09 19:13:26 <mrmoku> JaMa: ouch
Apr 09 19:14:07 <JaMa> dos1: patch for packagekit opkg backend compatible with newer opkg http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=7ce40cb891421bec1614854d8a30183bd9211f93
Apr 09 19:14:29 <JaMa> dos1: I'll push one more for gcc-4.4 compatibility, can you merge them to packagekit upstream?
Apr 09 19:14:43 <JaMa> dos1: IIRC you said that you have R/W there
Apr 09 19:14:54 <dos1> JaMa: thanks a lot, i'll push it :)
Apr 09 19:15:19 <alabd> TAsn, http://pastebin.com/GDRyU1Hw
Apr 09 19:15:22 <mrmoku> leviathan: 78ac33612ccc0afaf48e6ae879f255b9da90fe2a builds
Apr 09 19:15:35 <JaMa> dos1: I'm not that patch author.. so I'm just messenger here :)
Apr 09 19:16:01 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 19:16:04 <TAsn> tcheh doesn't work in shr?!
Apr 09 19:16:14 <leviathan> mrmoku: for fsogsmd?
Apr 09 19:16:24 <TAsn> alabd, ^
Apr 09 19:16:24 <mrmoku> no, fsodeviced
Apr 09 19:16:24 <JaMa> dos1: and /usr/include/libopkg/pkg_dest.h is missing #include <stdio.h>, gcc-4.4 with more strict includes doesn't see FILE
Apr 09 19:16:27 <leviathan> uhm oops
Apr 09 19:16:30 <leviathan> ment that
Apr 09 19:16:31 <mrmoku> fsogsmd should build too though
Apr 09 19:16:36 <leviathan> k
Apr 09 19:17:00 <alabd> TAsn,  no 
Apr 09 19:17:05 <alabd> it is not in arabic
Apr 09 19:17:50 <TAsn> try using
Apr 09 19:17:58 <leviathan> mrmoku: I'm try'n
Apr 09 19:18:55 <TAsn> alabd, Arabic_tcheh for "چ", Arabic_peh for "پ", Arabic_zain for "ز", and Arabic_gaf for "گ"
Apr 09 19:18:58 <TAsn> in the illume keyboard
Apr 09 19:19:40 <alabd> oh how where did you find them :D ?
Apr 09 19:20:19 <TAsn> they appear in the xev output
Apr 09 19:20:27 <JaMa> mrmoku, leviathan: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/544598/ I guess that msmcomm also needs small SRCREV bump
Apr 09 19:20:56 <alabd> TAsn,  yes yes
Apr 09 19:22:55 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... strange. fsogsmd with autorev builds for me
Apr 09 19:23:18 <TAsn> alabd, tell me if it works, and if it does work, send me an up to date persian layout please.
Apr 09 19:23:28 <JaMa> mrmoku: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/544600/ and this needs newer EFL you're testing?
Apr 09 19:23:48 <alabd> TAsn,  sure am testing
Apr 09 19:23:53 <JaMa> mrmoku: because fso-autoreve sets SRCREV_pn-msmcommd = "${AUTOREV}"
Apr 09 19:25:27 * JaMa trying with newer msmcommd
Apr 09 19:27:05 <mrmoku> JaMa: heh, yes. with only fsogsmd set to current head it fails with that error :/
Apr 09 19:31:44 <JaMa> mrmoku: compiled fine with msmcomm head.. will push it
Apr 09 19:32:21 <alabd> TAsn,  چ has a problem it can not adhere other chars
Apr 09 19:32:39 <TAsn> alabd, on thing at a time, does it work?
Apr 09 19:32:42 <TAsn> (insertion)
Apr 09 19:32:47 <TAsn> using the illume keyboard
Apr 09 19:32:47 <mrmoku> JaMa: great, thanks
Apr 09 19:33:01 <alabd> TAsn,  yes
Apr 09 19:33:04 <mrmoku> JaMa: you could set fsogsmd to current head too
Apr 09 19:33:10 <mrmoku> it has some important calypso fix
Apr 09 19:33:42 <TAsn> alabd, so send me the keyboard and I'll apply it :)
Apr 09 19:33:43 <JaMa> mrmoku: newer than this? http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=cf0b93fc60663d33f6529f215b26ebf8eaae3edc
Apr 09 19:34:05 <alabd> TAsn, and another problem for ژ in ubuntu humble use shift+ز  
Apr 09 19:34:14 <mrmoku> JaMa: cb2e024c1e517eb1300bbf3fc75038f4e744127b
Apr 09 19:34:21 <TAsn> so?
Apr 09 19:34:30 <TAsn> oh, those are different characters?
Apr 09 19:34:34 <TAsn> (I can't really see)
Apr 09 19:34:37 <alabd> yes
Apr 09 19:34:42 <JaMa> mrmoku: is it tested?
Apr 09 19:34:52 <mrmoku> JaMa: no :P
Apr 09 19:34:59 <mrmoku> well... just push without it
Apr 09 19:35:12 <JaMa> mrmoku: ok I'll test it first (not sure if today)
Apr 09 19:35:42 <JaMa> mrmoku: what about lib-phoneui-sh?
Apr 09 19:35:54 <JaMa> s/-phone/phone-/
Apr 09 19:35:54 <apt> JaMa meant: mrmoku: what about libphone-ui-sh?
Apr 09 19:36:13 <alabd> TAsn, what should be done ?
Apr 09 19:36:39 <alabd> solved
Apr 09 19:36:43 <alabd> Arabic_jeh
Apr 09 19:37:09 <TAsn> alabd, :)
Apr 09 19:37:15 <TAsn> send me the keyboard when you can.
Apr 09 19:37:29 <mrmoku> JaMa: libphone-ui-shr with libfso-glib you mean?
Apr 09 19:37:54 <JaMa> mrmoku: no, normal one on shr buildhost
Apr 09 19:38:00 <JaMa> 21:23:45 < JaMa> mrmoku: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/544600/ and this needs newer EFL you're testing?
Apr 09 19:38:08 <mrmoku> ahh
Apr 09 19:38:34 <mrmoku> don't know if we should bump EFL... enlightenment segfaults on resume from time to time for me
Apr 09 19:39:01 <mrmoku> we might as well revert that commit in libphone-ui-shr for now
Apr 09 19:39:02 <mrmoku> dunno
Apr 09 19:39:12 <mrmoku> for sure TAsn won't be enlightened :P
Apr 09 19:39:31 <TAsn> A man gotta do what a man gotta do :P
Apr 09 19:39:39 <TAsn> mrmoku, didn't you try to debug it though?
Apr 09 19:39:57 <mrmoku> ok... will do that now
Apr 09 19:40:15 <mrmoku> install dbg's, attach gdb and supsend/resume until it segs :P
Apr 09 19:43:53 <leviathan> mrmoku: which vala version should I use?
Apr 09 19:45:48 <alabd> TAsn,  thanks a lot
Apr 09 19:45:50 <alabd> http://pastebin.com/DxKhcqq6
Apr 09 19:46:02 <TAsn> thank you.
Apr 09 19:47:08 <JaMa> radekp: ping2
Apr 09 19:47:16 <TAsn> JaMa, please build Persian keyboard again :)
Apr 09 19:47:23 <TAsn> sorry.
Apr 09 19:47:23 <mrmoku> leviathan: the one set in OE
Apr 09 19:47:24 <JaMa> TAsn: rev?
Apr 09 19:47:28 <CIA-75> SHR: 03tom 07illume-keyboards * r9bd2c8f060c4 10/persian/Persian.kbd: Added more characters to the Persian keyboard.
Apr 09 19:47:31 <TAsn> this one :)
Apr 09 19:47:44 <TAsn> 9bd2c8f060c48eee3ab247838d8ecf2cf7082472
Apr 09 19:48:03 <JaMa> ok
Apr 09 19:48:24 <radekp> JaMa: pong - i am here :)
Apr 09 19:48:53 <alabd> TAsn,  :D now solve separate persian chars showing in pidgin , ventura and maybe others
Apr 09 19:49:02 <alabd> JaMa,  thanks 
Apr 09 19:49:05 <TAsn> that's for another day, sorry :)
Apr 09 19:49:37 <JaMa> radekp: tried your kernel patches
Apr 09 19:49:47 <radekp> JaMa: and - any luck? :)
Apr 09 19:50:37 <JaMa> radekp: prevent_jbt6k74_ws.patch is sort of included in gdrm-2.6.32 (delay is only 30 there not 100 as you have, do you think that 100 is really needed and better?)
Apr 09 19:51:46 <JaMa> radekp: and the rest of patches converted to "git format-patch" format to apply it easily with description you provided in e-mail (if you're interesed in using this format too)
Apr 09 19:51:49 <radekp> JaMa: if 30 is enough it's ok then - i just tried 100 because i think Paul mentioned this number on irc :)
Apr 09 19:53:11 <alabd> God peace you bye
Apr 09 19:53:22 <mrmoku> TAsn: with gdb attached it does not segfault even after 30 suspend/resume cycles :(
Apr 09 19:53:28 <JaMa> radekp: not sure if it's enough.. it's just what Weiss used and I'm not sure how to properly test if it's always enough to make LCM sane in every case :)
Apr 09 19:53:35 <TAsn> mrmoku, attach *after* the segfault
Apr 09 19:53:40 <TAsn> like the white box suggests :P
Apr 09 19:53:47 <mrmoku> heh
Apr 09 19:53:55 * mrmoku never read that :P
Apr 09 19:54:38 <radekp> JaMa: no idea here too - i wonder if this is anywhere in HW specs
Apr 09 19:56:14 <radekp> JaMa: one possibility is to start with some low number (like 5ms) and increase it - then try e.g. 10x and make curve for each value - and try to extrapolate correct value :) 
Apr 09 19:56:44 <JaMa> hehe, do you have some quick testcase?
Apr 09 19:57:23 <JaMa> it's not fun to power cycle whole phone just to bisect number of ms :)
Apr 09 19:58:10 <JaMa> and then someone will complain that in cold weather 13ms is not enough and you have to repeat whole experiment freezing with your neo outside :)
Apr 09 19:59:43 <JaMa> radekp: and here are your patches... http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/a3550f34946e700a8ea880553734ec11d692e2ca
Apr 09 19:59:45 <radekp> yes, not very good solution :)
Apr 09 20:01:35 <radekp> JaMa: great i will replace those uncommented ones in my git with these
Apr 09 20:02:39 <JaMa> mmt I'll push it somewhere as files
Apr 09 20:03:18 <JaMa> ah gitorious also has "tree" view :)
Apr 09 20:03:55 <leviathan> mrmoku: ok removed shr-autorev and fso-autorev
Apr 09 20:04:05 <leviathan> lets see if it works
Apr 09 20:04:38 <JaMa> radekp: http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/trees/shr/unstable/recipes/linux/linux-openmoko-2.6.32
Apr 09 20:05:00 <JaMa> leviathan: don't forget to git pull
Apr 09 20:05:15 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 20:05:16 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 20:05:32 <JaMa> leviathan: but the reset seems at least buildable without fso-autorev now
Apr 09 20:05:46 <JaMa> s/reset/rest/
Apr 09 20:05:46 <apt> JaMa meant: leviathan: but the rest seems at least buildable without fso-autorev now
Apr 09 20:06:08 <leviathan> yes
Apr 09 20:06:10 <leviathan> see
Apr 09 20:06:15 <leviathan> I'll try now
Apr 09 20:06:19 <JaMa> except libphone-ui-shr :/
Apr 09 20:06:23 <radekp> JaMa: nice
Apr 09 20:06:37 <leviathan> I'm try'n to compile fso2-demo-image for now
Apr 09 20:06:39 <JaMa> but without shr-autorev you'll get buildable revision probably
Apr 09 20:08:02 <JaMa> larsc: any comment on those 2.6.32 patches or are you concentrating only on 2.6.34 now?
Apr 09 20:12:39 <larsc> if you want hostmode and accelerometers you should use them
Apr 09 20:14:12 <JaMa> larsc: and can it be applied in git.openmoko.org?
Apr 09 20:16:08 <JaMa> spaetz: there is new shr-lite-image in shr-t, you can test, rsync it
Apr 09 20:30:31 <mrmoku> TAsn: we should preload quick-settings on start
Apr 09 20:30:45 <TAsn> and other windows as well...
Apr 09 20:30:57 <mrmoku> the dialer maybe
Apr 09 20:39:44 <spaetz`> JaMa, cool, thanks
Apr 09 20:48:05 <mrmoku> JaMa: why don't we use fsotdld?
Apr 09 20:50:24 <TAsn> mrmoku, contacts as well...
Apr 09 20:50:37 <TAsn> mrmoku, the only thing I'm not happy about atm is messages app.
Apr 09 20:50:48 <TAsn> (i'm talking about the contact list there)
Apr 09 20:51:01 <mrmoku> ahh... mickeyl :)
Apr 09 20:51:03 <TAsn> I think we should consider using cache for contacts, but not in the way we did until now
Apr 09 20:51:28 <mrmoku> hmm... I would have thought opimd is our cache :P
Apr 09 20:51:29 <mickeyl> good evening
Apr 09 20:51:33 <TAsn> just cache contacts internally, and use it to create contact list everywhere.
Apr 09 20:51:44 <mrmoku> mickeyl: autorev is giving problems with fsodeviced
Apr 09 20:51:47 <TAsn> mrmoku, that's the best solution, but while it's python :|
Apr 09 20:51:59 <mrmoku> TAsn: change that then :P
Apr 09 20:52:49 <TAsn> don't think that I won't :)
Apr 09 20:53:07 <mickeyl> mrmoku: ya, didn't have a chance to bump vala-dbus-binding-tool
Apr 09 20:53:08 <mickeyl> give me a minute
Apr 09 20:53:13 <TAsn> bah, h.w with <sys/sem.h> instead of <semaphore.h> what a nightmare :P
Apr 09 20:55:49 <mrmoku> mickeyl: another question... fsotdld is started via an init script?
Apr 09 20:56:37 <mickeyl> mrmoku: either that or dbus activated
Apr 09 20:56:50 <mickeyl> until we have fso-boot or a similar mechanism, might make sense to init it
Apr 09 20:57:26 <mrmoku> ok
Apr 09 20:58:35 <mickeyl> there got be one supervisor
Apr 09 20:58:53 <mickeyl> but i'm not sure where to put that code
Apr 09 20:59:02 <mickeyl> perhaps the reincarnation of fsomonitord
Apr 09 21:02:20 <TAsn> JaMa, please build phonelog 7672065334cb64e890cfb86d0236f4c36d595e4b  :)
Apr 09 21:05:06 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ahh, and if fixing FreeSmartphoneGSMSIMEntry is a small thing I would very much appreciate it :)
Apr 09 21:05:15 <mrmoku> took a look... but don't understand anything
Apr 09 21:06:13 <mickeyl> heh
Apr 09 21:06:20 <mickeyl> that code is poetry
Apr 09 21:06:39 <mickeyl> i'll promise to fix it tomorrow
Apr 09 21:06:44 <mrmoku> ok, thanks
Apr 09 21:21:39 <leviathan> mickey|bbiab: it should build now with autorev
Apr 09 21:21:41 <leviathan> right?
Apr 09 21:22:40 <mrmoku> leviathan: I think so, yes
Apr 09 21:22:44 <mrmoku> trying myself now
Apr 09 21:22:45 <leviathan> k
Apr 09 21:22:47 <leviathan> k
Apr 09 21:27:57 <JaMa> XorA: I'll wait few mor mins (he reconnected only for few mins) and then push it if he doesn't show up
Apr 09 21:28:22 <JaMa> ups
Apr 09 21:28:25 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 09 21:31:52 <mrmoku> TAsn: ui_utils_notify takes a Evas_Object * instead of a struct View *... are you ok with me changing that or was there some strong reason doing it that way?
Apr 09 21:32:08 <TAsn> there was a reason for that
Apr 09 21:32:23 <TAsn> it's parent doesn't have to be a view :)
Apr 09 21:32:39 <TAsn> I mean, you can use a scroller as it's parent
Apr 09 21:32:41 <TAsn> etc etc.
Apr 09 21:32:45 <mrmoku> ok
Apr 09 21:32:46 <TAsn> (or an inwin for example)
Apr 09 21:43:32 <mrmoku> leviathan: hmm... did not build for me
Apr 09 21:43:45 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 21:43:51 <leviathan> I'll look onto my state
Apr 09 21:43:52 <leviathan> mom
Apr 09 21:44:14 <leviathan> not finished yet
Apr 09 21:44:15 <leviathan> :)
Apr 09 21:44:30 <leviathan> ok, well I'm always building from scratch
Apr 09 21:44:37 <leviathan> no problem with 16 cores
Apr 09 21:47:47 <mrmoku> leviathan: hehe, from scratch it might even build :P
Apr 09 22:14:45 <mrmoku> leviathan: I had to remove recipes/vala-dbus-binding-tool/vala-dbus-binding-tool_0.1.5.bb to make it pickup the one from git
Apr 09 22:15:01 <mrmoku> after that fsodeviced built nicely :)
Apr 09 22:15:04 <leviathan> hmm, ok
Apr 09 22:39:11 <mickey|bbiab> strange
Apr 09 22:39:16 <mickey|bbiab> 0.1.5 should sort less than 0.1.6-git now
Apr 09 22:39:29 <mickey|bbiab> at least that's what i committed to OE
Apr 09 22:49:26 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: at least in shr/unstable there is PE in _git.bb
Apr 09 22:51:14 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: but strange with PE = "1" in _git version we should get this, no matter what's in other recipe
Apr 09 22:54:35 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: pushed PE move to .inc in shr/unstable (oe.dev doesn't have PE bumped because SRCREV/SRCPV)
Apr 09 22:57:06 <lindi-> great, with CHDK my canon camera takes a photo when I do om usb charger-mode power-usb; om usb charger-mode charge-battery
Apr 09 23:17:31 <mickey|bbiab> cool stuff
Apr 09 23:18:37 <leviathan> hm
Apr 09 23:18:38 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 23:18:44 <leviathan> seems to build now
Apr 09 23:18:57 <leviathan> task-fso2-compliance built all depencies
Apr 09 23:19:09 <leviathan> now I'm try'n fso2-demo-image
Apr 09 23:28:01 <mickey|bbiab> cool
Apr 09 23:28:14 <mickey|bbiab> one thing that won't start on demand is fsogsmd
Apr 09 23:28:18 <mickey|bbiab> so you need to run that beforehand
Apr 09 23:29:46 <playya> mickey|bbiab, where do you hide the zhone2 recipe?
Apr 09 23:30:25 <mickey|bbiab> recipes/freesmartphone
Apr 09 23:30:31 <playya> i added a preboot recipe, but eflvala pulls a X
Apr 09 23:30:46 <mickeyl> yes, that's broken atm., since everyone uses X
Apr 09 23:30:55 <mickeyl> i just don't bother atm.
Apr 09 23:31:06 <mickeyl> if you don't install the X server, zhone2 will automatically use framebuffer :)
Apr 09 23:31:21 <mickeyl> (it tries to detect at runtime)
Apr 09 23:31:50 <mickeyl> the efl recipes have to be scrutinized again to be able to build 'pure' fb systems
Apr 09 23:32:11 <playya_> argh. disconnect
Apr 09 23:32:17 <mickeyl> <mickeyl> yes, that's broken atm., since everyone uses X
Apr 09 23:32:17 <mickeyl> <mickeyl> i just don't bother atm.
Apr 09 23:32:17 <mickeyl> <mickeyl> if you don't install the X server, zhone2 will automatically use framebuffer :)
Apr 09 23:32:38 <leviathan> mickeyl: you mean, if I run zhone2 it starts in fb-mode?
Apr 09 23:32:41 <leviathan> thats cool
Apr 09 23:32:43 <mickeyl> correct
Apr 09 23:32:47 <mickeyl> unless you have an X server
Apr 09 23:32:49 <mickeyl> then it will run as X app
Apr 09 23:32:56 <leviathan> because it seems, that fso2-demo-image fits into internal memory
Apr 09 23:33:02 <leviathan> but I have to proof it first
Apr 09 23:33:06 <mickeyl> and there's even much bloat
Apr 09 23:33:11 <mickeyl> we can strip it down more
Apr 09 23:33:17 <leviathan> yeeha
Apr 09 23:33:34 <leviathan> now we really can overflash android
Apr 09 23:33:35 <leviathan> ^^
Apr 09 23:33:56 <mickeyl> :D
Apr 09 23:34:00 <mickeyl> well
Apr 09 23:34:03 <mickeyl> after wifi
Apr 09 23:34:05 <leviathan> yes
Apr 09 23:34:06 <mickeyl> and suspend/resume
Apr 09 23:34:08 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 09 23:34:09 <leviathan> yes
Apr 09 23:34:10 <leviathan> :)
Apr 09 23:34:30 <leviathan> wireless seems such an issue
Apr 09 23:34:39 <mickeyl> well
Apr 09 23:34:42 <mickeyl> it can't be big
Apr 09 23:34:42 <leviathan> I do not exactly know, why it doesnt load it correctly
Apr 09 23:34:49 <mickeyl> everything is splendid here
Apr 09 23:34:52 <mickeyl> _except_ that one issue
Apr 09 23:35:03 <mickeyl> which is a blocker, since you want to turn the interface down at time
Apr 09 23:35:04 <mickeyl> s
Apr 09 23:35:05 <leviathan> it cant be require_firmware, its correctly used in the driver
Apr 09 23:35:29 <leviathan> so it must be something service like
Apr 09 23:35:31 <leviathan> like udev
Apr 09 23:35:40 <leviathan> which is unable to deliver the firmware...
Apr 09 23:35:41 <leviathan> perhaps
Apr 09 23:35:52 <mickeyl> ah
Apr 09 23:36:03 <mickeyl> if you want firmware to load on fso-demo-image, you have to add one thing
Apr 09 23:36:08 <mickeyl> find fsodeviced.conf
Apr 09 23:36:10 <mickeyl> and add
Apr 09 23:36:14 <mickeyl> [kernel26_firmwareloader]
Apr 09 23:36:14 <playya_> this seems to be too much for a small image: Running task 3068 of 3695 
Apr 09 23:36:16 <mickeyl> err
Apr 09 23:36:21 <mickeyl> no
Apr 09 23:36:27 <mickeyl> [fsodevice.kernel26_firmwareloader]
Apr 09 23:36:29 <mickeyl> that's it
Apr 09 23:36:47 <mickeyl> playya_: well, a console image is 2000 tasks as well :)
Apr 09 23:37:28 <playya_> th preboot should have 2010 :D
Apr 09 23:37:49 <playya_> ok 2050
Apr 09 23:38:34 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra906c73f3255 10/fsodeviced/ (4 files in 4 dirs): fsodeviced: router_alsa: first stab at implement get/set volume; requires vala 0.8.0.69 now
Apr 09 23:39:22 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 23:39:53 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 23:40:06 <leviathan> I'll build an yaffs2-rootfs
Apr 09 23:40:09 <leviathan> and try to flash it
Apr 09 23:44:42 <leviathan> mickeyl: perhaps this wifi issue
Apr 09 23:44:49 <leviathan> comes from an access issue
Apr 09 23:45:07 <leviathan> because we do not know exactly how they have wired sd-card/sdio-card
Apr 09 23:45:20 <leviathan> perhaps the have ressource issues
Apr 09 23:45:27 <leviathan> if the rootfs is installed on sdcard
Apr 09 23:45:33 <leviathan> we know that from freerunner
Apr 09 23:45:40 <leviathan> sd-card+graphics
Apr 09 23:46:51 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 09 23:47:04 <mickeyl> does that explain a flawless working except shutting down the interface?
Apr 09 23:47:30 <mickeyl> it triggers a kernel OOPS and sometimes even a freeze
Apr 09 23:47:41 <mickeyl> so i'd say must be a small issue in the driver
Apr 09 23:47:43 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * r963d51c38658 10/palmpre/.gitignore: palmpre: remove vapis from gitignore
Apr 09 23:47:44 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * re0a4c29bc931 10/.gitignore: Remove vapis from .gitignore
Apr 09 23:47:49 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 23:47:51 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 23:47:53 <leviathan> makes sense
Apr 09 23:48:11 <leviathan> I'll check anyway if it occurs when we're using internal memory
Apr 09 23:48:22 <mickeyl> k
Apr 09 23:48:40 <pespin> leviathan, (blank message) wasn't fso/shr fault ;)
Apr 09 23:48:51 <leviathan> oh
Apr 09 23:48:55 <leviathan> it was her fault=
Apr 09 23:48:56 <leviathan> ?
Apr 09 23:49:04 <leviathan> taped onto the phone?
Apr 09 23:49:17 <leviathan> hapened to me already twice with old nokia
Apr 09 23:49:27 <leviathan> since I have SHR not anymore
Apr 09 23:49:40 <leviathan> because you can lock and require a long passwort
Apr 09 23:49:42 <leviathan> ^^
Apr 09 23:49:47 <JaMa> mickeyl: your last commit to oe.dev had some bogus changes in it..
Apr 09 23:49:53 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3d7d7ad45c74 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/router_alsa/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: router_alsa: hook volume accessors to dbus
Apr 09 23:50:05 <leviathan> JaMa: he fixed building for now
Apr 09 23:50:08 <leviathan> anyway
Apr 09 23:50:16 <leviathan> so I can live with some bogus stuff for now
Apr 09 23:50:38 <pespin> leviathan, yep, was fault of LG touchscreen mobile unlocking by itself and then... you know, touchscreen inside a bag can do lots of different things ;)
Apr 09 23:50:40 <mickeyl> JaMa: ouch, thanks
Apr 09 23:51:09 <leviathan> pespin: yes, except its a capacity screen ;)
Apr 09 23:51:20 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * r360e4100cc8a 10/palmpre/preboot/vapi/config.vapi: palmpre/preboot: Add missing config.vapi
Apr 09 23:51:37 <leviathan> pespin: but the phone seems to like you, if it sends especially an SMS to you xD
Apr 09 23:52:15 <pespin> leviathan, well, I wasn't the only one... there were other 4 sms sent xD
Apr 09 23:52:20 <leviathan> mickeyl: building is broken
Apr 09 23:52:36 <pespin> going to sleep, tomorrow = study for exams!
Apr 09 23:52:42 <leviathan> pespin: I hope, she has a flatrate abo;-D
Apr 09 23:52:48 <leviathan> pespin: oh, ok
Apr 09 23:53:01 <leviathan> good luck!
Apr 09 23:53:03 <mickeyl> JaMa: fixed
Apr 09 23:53:32 <JaMa> mickeyl: seen that, thanks
Apr 09 23:53:55 <JaMa> shr-installer back in shr-u feeds! 
Apr 09 23:56:32 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 09 23:56:32 <leviathan> ok
Apr 09 23:56:40 <leviathan> hope it builds now
Apr 09 23:57:55 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * r2812c0ff528e 10/palmpre/preboot/src/Makefile.am: palmpre/preboot: replace fsoframework by fsobasics package
Apr 09 23:58:20 <leviathan> ok, very well
Apr 09 23:58:23 <leviathan> seems to build
Apr 09 23:58:32 <leviathan> lets try to install it into internal memory
Apr 09 23:58:41 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * rb592a5f5b417 10/zhone2/src/ (deviceagent.vala main.vala): zhone2: increase volume step offset
Apr 09 23:58:42 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * rf4f0f1161081 10/zhone2/src/deviceagent.vala: zhone2: hook volume accessors to dbus
Apr 10 00:06:18 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07aurora * r641368245cfd 10/preboot/ (29 files in 8 dirs): preboot: deleted, because we're using the one in utilities
Apr 10 00:09:47 <TAsn> Damn! mrmoku|away, because CIA doesn't track shr-e-gadgets, the channel just missed a super-cool commit :)
Apr 10 00:11:34 <JaMa> TAsn: can you fix that libphone-ui-shr somehow? it's only failing package in build now :)
Apr 10 00:12:03 <TAsn> JaMa, if it's on autorev, it should fail :P
Apr 10 00:12:20 <TAsn> it is, right?
Apr 10 00:13:01 <TAsn> I'll just revert the "broken" (conforming to e changes) changes then.
Apr 10 00:13:10 <leviathan> mickeyl: fits and still has free space ;D
Apr 10 00:13:22 <JaMa> or I can remove AUTOREV for a while..
Apr 10 00:13:53 <TAsn> JaMa, no
Apr 10 00:13:55 <TAsn> I'll just revert it.
Apr 10 00:13:56 <TAsn> sec.
Apr 10 00:14:18 <JaMa> ok, do you want newer e-gadgets built? :)
Apr 10 00:14:41 <CIA-75> SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * rd0ccbcb41289 10/src/view/idle-view.c: Revert "idle-view.c: adjust to changed semantics of edje_edit_part_selected_state_set"
Apr 10 00:15:02 <TAsn> JaMa, no, because there's one issue to take care of before I can declare it "production ready" anyway.
Apr 10 00:15:18 <TAsn> JaMa, but as I said before, we need Persian keyboard (if you haven't upgraded that already)
Apr 10 00:15:24 <mickeyl> leviathan: awesome 
Apr 10 00:15:50 <JaMa> TAsn: I did
Apr 10 00:16:01 <JaMa> now pushing that pyphonelog
Apr 10 00:16:03 <TAsn> ok, then I think we are just fine :)
Apr 10 00:16:06 <mickeyl> btw., I'm not sure i like GNUtoo's latest patches
Apr 10 00:16:08 <TAsn> JaMa, oh, right, that too.
Apr 10 00:16:20 <mickeyl> working around userland issues in kernel feels like android
Apr 10 00:16:26 <mickeyl> can't we do better?
Apr 10 00:16:41 <TAsn> mickeyl, if that's what he did (haven't reviewed them), then I agree with you :)
Apr 10 00:17:03 <leviathan> failing Xorg driver... hmm
Apr 10 00:17:23 <leviathan> I need to take a deeper look into this issue tomorrow
Apr 10 00:17:53 <mickeyl> it might be a race condition with the consolefb
Apr 10 00:18:03 <mickeyl> so you should also try removing consolefb and running X
Apr 10 00:18:13 <mickeyl> if that does not crash on shutdown of X, we might have a poitner
Apr 10 00:18:19 <mickeyl> pointer, that is
Apr 10 00:18:29 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r0337ea18854e 10/zhone2/src/ (deviceagent.vala main.vala): zhone2: and actually set/get volume via dbus
Apr 10 00:20:56 <leviathan> uhm
Apr 10 00:21:13 <leviathan> why do I only have fsodeviced installed in fso2-demo-image??
Apr 10 00:21:39 <leviathan> means in init.d
Apr 10 00:21:52 <mickeyl> most are dbus activated
Apr 10 00:22:04 <mickeyl> fsogsmd start by hand for now
Apr 10 00:22:16 <mickeyl> and don't forget to add the firmwareloader section
Apr 10 00:23:18 <leviathan> höö?
Apr 10 00:23:31 <leviathan> could you please add that into repo?
Apr 10 00:24:02 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 10 00:24:16 <mickeyl> then i also need a udev check @ runtime :/
Apr 10 00:24:27 <mickeyl> i don't know what happens when both try to upload firmware at the same time
Apr 10 00:24:33 <mickeyl> fsodeviced is hopefully faster ;)
Apr 10 00:25:20 <mickeyl> anyways, will do some integration work this weekend
Apr 10 00:25:32 <mickeyl> and release something that boots directly into zhone2 on sunday
Apr 10 00:25:36 <mickeyl> g'night
Apr 10 00:26:34 <leviathan> gn8
Apr 10 00:39:16 <CIA-75> SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * ra0a974b1e115 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-gry/ (6 files in 2 dirs): e-wm-theme-illume-gry: added illume-home theme.
Apr 10 00:39:18 <TAsn> JaMa, please build e-wm-theme-illume-gry
Apr 10 00:39:20 <TAsn> a0a974b1e1150aefdf29e8f0ac471a2a60e62532
Apr 10 00:39:24 <TAsn> thanks.
Apr 10 00:41:30 <leviathan> ok
Apr 10 00:41:34 <leviathan> in this case
Apr 10 00:41:38 <leviathan> I will sleep now too
Apr 10 00:42:02 <leviathan> lets hope, that we get all images down to such a slim format
Apr 10 00:42:25 <leviathan> would be nice to strip Xorg that much, that we coudl use illume and so on only 60MB
Apr 10 00:42:26 <leviathan> ^^
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