**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 12 02:59:56 2010 Apr 12 05:04:36 moin Apr 12 05:35:15 moin Apr 12 06:17:01 please share this petition against acta: http://www.gopetition.com/online/35443.html Apr 12 06:37:04 palm is up for sale: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/11/bloomberg-palm-is-up-for-sale/ Apr 12 06:41:17 ok. i have to save some money. maybe i need a new phone Apr 12 06:44:05 playya_: ? Apr 12 06:44:48 maybe apple buys palm. i don't want to be a apple fanboy *hides* Apr 12 06:53:22 morning Apr 12 06:55:25 need I to put SRCREV to autorev for working fsogsmd? or is with SRCREV 32e7e15e1a.... OK? Apr 12 06:59:17 well will try with autorev later ;) Apr 12 06:59:24 need to go now Apr 12 07:08:52 moin Apr 12 07:09:08 von_fritz: autorev, yup Apr 12 07:09:34 morning Apr 12 07:09:36 JaMa: no problems display related? Apr 12 07:09:47 mrmoku: any news on contacts adding? Apr 12 07:09:49 JaMa: are you using phonefsod with dimming? Apr 12 07:10:59 Q-Master: I'm not using the buildhost feed these days... can't check what happens. But the libfso-glib branch will be merged to master soon (hopefully) Apr 12 07:11:07 and for me adding contacts works (with that branch) Apr 12 07:11:17 mickeyl: ok, will do now Apr 12 07:11:24 mrmoku: good to hear. Apr 12 07:11:27 * Q-Master will wait Apr 12 07:26:24 mrmoku: yes/yes Apr 12 07:27:30 last 659 recipes to check/fix :/ Apr 12 07:41:57 JaMa: ok, will give it another spin then Apr 12 07:43:42 ehi you all Apr 12 07:43:51 my shr-t went crazy Apr 12 07:44:05 I flashed my FR with the new April 10th SHR-T Apr 12 07:44:21 first boot went well, shr-wizard etc. Apr 12 07:46:10 but Apr 12 07:46:29 ok that launching apps by mistake when scolling apps is finally GONE Apr 12 07:46:30 but Apr 12 07:47:09 then after a reboot I still got the shr-wizard Apr 12 07:47:33 and after I finished that I come to the home screen but it's empty! Apr 12 07:47:42 no icons at all, only background Apr 12 07:47:45 0_o Apr 12 07:50:52 and now this happens everytime I boot! Apr 12 07:50:58 spaetzAway: ^^^ Apr 12 08:18:43 new fsogsmd thinks my freerunner is a neo1973 :) Apr 12 08:21:31 ....neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on i have only gta02-pm-gsm.0 where i can change this? Apr 12 08:23:39 von_fritz: /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/fsogsmd.conf Apr 12 08:23:42 you find it in there Apr 12 08:24:07 one of the things that changed with the new kernel :/ Apr 12 08:25:44 TAsn: found out why the first start wizard did not pop up... after seeing that there were already contacts and missed calls... I realized I untared the image into the wrong partition :P Apr 12 08:26:27 mrmoku: can you insert your favorite date into the doodle for FSOSHRUDCON? Apr 12 08:27:28 thanks mrmoku :) Apr 12 08:29:11 Heinervdm: done Apr 12 08:29:26 mrmoku: ok, then spaetzAway is the last one missing Apr 12 08:30:09 Heinervdm: spaetz already is in there... he can't Apr 12 08:30:19 tendency is 3/4 of July as it is Apr 12 08:30:22 mrmoku: yes, just seen it too Apr 12 08:31:10 meep Apr 12 08:34:15 raster: tell me some news :D Apr 12 08:34:34 my pants are still on Apr 12 08:34:45 good thing... and then? :P Apr 12 08:35:20 have u tried e's compositor lately? Apr 12 08:35:36 on the FR? Apr 12 08:51:51 I *probably* cannot Apr 12 08:52:04 I will try, but don't reschedule because of me. Apr 12 08:52:16 I am pretty much away all of May in the US Apr 12 08:52:38 which exhausts my travel budget (financially and with my family :-) ) Apr 12 08:52:46 :) Apr 12 09:43:08 mrmoku, figured it was something like that :P Apr 12 09:43:19 Well, at lease there was no data loss, right? :P Apr 12 09:53:04 TAsn: no data to loose on my FR :P Apr 12 09:53:23 contacts? Apr 12 09:53:45 no Apr 12 09:53:53 I have no friends ;) Apr 12 09:54:11 j/k ... have my contacts on SIM and can reimport them :) Apr 12 09:54:33 SMS I don't do a lot Apr 12 09:55:27 spaetz: how's the last shr-t ? Apr 12 10:15:56 khiraly1: hi there! Apr 12 10:16:00 how're you doing? Apr 12 10:21:41 Heinervdm: thanks :P Apr 12 10:21:51 * mrmoku has to get used to assign a MS immediately :) Apr 12 10:22:05 :) Apr 12 10:22:19 this contact select dialog is a mess Apr 12 10:22:28 now i have a dialog, but it's empty Apr 12 10:51:31 mrmoku: actually, I have only tested it very briefly. Apr 12 10:54:53 GNUtoo: ping Apr 12 10:56:21 * spaetz giggles Apr 12 10:56:37 * spaetz giggles in a different channel now. Apr 12 11:06:41 mickey|office, pong but I'll eat Apr 12 11:06:53 I'll switch on htcdream Apr 12 11:06:57 with pidgin Apr 12 11:10:39 omg, that sounds soo cool Apr 12 11:11:16 GNUtoo: just a small update; "suspend/resume" also crashes without fbcon, so i'm afraid you should revert some of your changes Apr 12 11:11:18 damn keyboard,not entirely mapped Apr 12 11:11:22 ouch Apr 12 11:11:30 GNUtoo: also, yesterday nite i talked with the htclinux folks Apr 12 11:11:42 i hope this is again some non-freerunner stuff :) Apr 12 11:11:43 they strongly recommend we rebase our stuff on top of the 2.6.32 master Apr 12 11:11:50 mickey|office, it also crashes with FBIOBLANK Apr 12 11:11:55 mickey|office, ok Apr 12 11:12:03 also, for debugging suspend/resume we should take an unmodified android kernel first Apr 12 11:12:11 and then start tweaking defconfig Apr 12 11:12:14 to see where the problem lays Apr 12 11:12:18 (which makes sense) Apr 12 11:13:02 mickey|office, with or without FBIOBLANK btw Apr 12 11:13:06 without Apr 12 11:13:08 (for me) Apr 12 11:13:10 ah ok Apr 12 11:13:19 i'll disable echoing mem to sys/power/state in zhone2 now to get the demo image out Apr 12 11:13:20 mickey|office, you should try with it Apr 12 11:13:34 k, will try tonight Apr 12 11:14:02 mickey|office, that was the goal,that was why I had to disable fbcon Apr 12 11:14:17 I had to disable fbcon only with FBIOBLANK Apr 12 11:14:31 because it crashed during xorg shutdown Apr 12 11:14:31 well, fbcon needs to be disabled nayways Apr 12 11:14:36 we don#t need it for release Apr 12 11:14:41 ok Apr 12 11:14:50 I really need to eat Apr 12 11:14:53 ok Apr 12 11:14:56 that was all i wanted to say Apr 12 11:14:58 bon appetit Apr 12 11:15:11 thanks Apr 12 11:34:13 mickey|office, I think we have a huge problem of incomprention btw,me fighting the wrong bugs,you trying the wrong options Apr 12 11:36:24 yes Apr 12 11:36:31 once and for all we should agree on using one defconfig Apr 12 11:36:36 which should be the one in OE Apr 12 12:00:24 ok Apr 12 12:01:13 i will update the defconfig in OE when I'm home Apr 12 12:01:34 i also have a patch against the kernel to enable msmfb full screen bootup logo Apr 12 12:09:54 TAsn: how does opimd get missed calls? Apr 12 12:13:12 spaetz: help! Apr 12 12:15:45 TAsn: if call_status == "incoming": Apr 12 12:15:59 what is the python way to make that case insensitive? :P Apr 12 12:17:31 graziano: what's up Apr 12 12:17:53 spaetz: did you read my shr-t feedback before when I pinged you? Apr 12 12:18:11 sorry no, haven't seen anything Apr 12 12:18:28 ok I flashed my FR with latest SHR-T from 10th april Apr 12 12:18:44 first boot went well, I did the wizard and so on Apr 12 12:18:45 shr-wizard on every boot? Apr 12 12:18:50 that sounds weird Apr 12 12:18:52 yes Apr 12 12:18:56 and no icons on main screen Apr 12 12:19:12 especially as nothing has changed in efl. Apr 12 12:19:31 do you mean the illume profile selection or the shr first time welcome wizard? Apr 12 12:19:53 no I mean the home screen with all the apps icons Apr 12 12:19:58 empty! Apr 12 12:20:40 no, I mean which wizard comes up on every boot? Apr 12 12:24:57 language selection, illume profile selection and so on Apr 12 12:25:34 graziano: OK, so that is the enlightenment wizard, not the shr wizard. weird. I upgraded my FR from the official repo too, and I don't get that. Apr 12 12:25:49 try to delete the ~/.e folder? Apr 12 12:26:24 spaetz: I downloaded and flashed this image: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100409-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz Apr 12 12:27:08 mmh, let me start a rebuild of the full image, it is not up to date, but it should not exhibit such a behavior.... Apr 12 12:27:15 if you wish I could try deleting the .e folder too Apr 12 12:27:25 (when I come home) Apr 12 12:27:49 yep, try that, perhaps a corrupt e folder... Apr 12 12:28:02 as I said, i run the updated shr-t too and I don't get it. Apr 12 12:30:14 another thing, is it possible to have a script able to identify that my FR is an A7+ and so needs the change from Apr 12 12:30:15 ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never Apr 12 12:30:15 to Apr 12 12:30:20 ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always Apr 12 12:30:21 ? Apr 12 12:31:02 it probably is, but I don't know anything about hardware revisions. And I don't know if that is always safe to change for all v7, so I won't touch it. Apr 12 12:31:10 unfortunately it's not possible to recognize an a7+ Apr 12 12:31:13 by software Apr 12 12:35:09 graziano: ^^^ Apr 12 12:35:12 pity Apr 12 12:37:53 uff :( Apr 12 12:37:54 k Apr 12 12:38:54 I don't get why things that worked before are now broken, it's strange Apr 12 12:39:16 the shr testing from January was almost stable Apr 12 12:42:32 mickey|office: how to make == in python to be case insensitive? Apr 12 12:42:46 is there something like ~= Apr 12 12:43:32 mickey|office: and I hope there was a good reason to make INCOMING upercased with fsogsmd :P Apr 12 12:45:43 graziano: because there are changes all over the place all the time :-)? Apr 12 12:46:19 yes I know this Apr 12 12:46:27 but Apr 12 12:46:33 I try to keep the updates in shr-t minimal, but stuff is so interconnected. Updating fso* stuff often means also updating shr* stuff and sometimes updating efl* stuff :-( Apr 12 12:46:50 and one is never sure which versions work with which... Apr 12 12:47:36 why the base system changes so much in the fundamentals? Apr 12 12:50:04 ok... seems to be string.lower() who's my friend Apr 12 12:57:32 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07framework * r5e628da363ea 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_calls.py: Apr 12 12:57:32 freesmartphone.org: opimd: make call logging work with fsogsmd too Apr 12 12:57:32 freesmartphone.org: In fsogsmd the status in CallStatus signals is uppercase. Apr 12 12:57:32 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Apr 12 13:05:10 anyway apart from my personal problems ehi we REALLY need a new default keyboard Apr 12 13:05:23 a finger friendly one Apr 12 13:05:44 yep, that would be nice. Apr 12 13:06:01 people say good things about literki, I've never used it though. Apr 12 13:06:15 before rebooting when I still had no problems at all, I was able to make receive calls, read sms and so on but writing without stylus was impossible Apr 12 13:06:25 spaetz: I have yet to try it Apr 12 13:06:59 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Graziano#Different_Default_Keyboard Apr 12 13:07:34 from the existing ones that I was able to install on my freerunner the only finger friendly one I got was Apr 12 13:07:43 New EasyTouch Apr 12 13:09:47 GNUtoo: heyo Apr 12 13:09:51 on? Apr 12 13:15:21 hi Apr 12 13:17:05 hi Apr 12 13:17:11 following thing: Apr 12 13:17:19 did you find out something about ubifs? Apr 12 13:17:29 I thought about it today Apr 12 13:17:48 and I guess, they did some very serious mistakes while implementing the mtd driver Apr 12 13:18:59 I'll ask phh about it Apr 12 13:19:07 perhaps he knows this kind of error Apr 12 13:29:44 leviathan, I didn't have time until now Apr 12 13:32:44 ok Apr 12 14:52:42 playya: ping Apr 12 14:52:49 pong Apr 12 14:53:06 playya: any idea regarding libfso-glib? Apr 12 14:53:23 no. i think we have to fix it in vala Apr 12 14:53:28 I took a look myself... Apr 12 14:53:34 u Apr 12 14:53:43 mrmoku, string.lower() ? Apr 12 14:53:46 free_smartphone_pim_contacts_dbus_proxy_add_async Apr 12 14:53:49 No idea :P I'm a c dude. Apr 12 14:53:54 playya: ^^ this one, right? Apr 12 14:54:01 I just hack around python when needed :P Apr 12 14:54:03 TAsn: already solved and committed :P Apr 12 14:54:14 sweet :P Apr 12 14:54:25 * mrmoku puts on his 'I hacked python and survived T-shirt' ;) Apr 12 14:54:30 :P Apr 12 14:55:02 mrmoku, what did you do? Apr 12 14:55:02 yes Apr 12 14:55:07 btw, awesome surf :P Apr 12 14:55:56 playya: any chance that vala-fixing might happen soon? Apr 12 14:56:35 not by me. i have some work to do :( Apr 12 14:57:13 i want to finish my thesis in about 3 weeks and i'm on page ~25 of 100 Apr 12 14:57:39 ok Apr 12 14:57:48 good argument :) Apr 12 14:57:53 TAsn: we have a problem :P Apr 12 14:58:10 mrmoku, ? Apr 12 14:58:29 TAsn: vala does not support multi-value fields Apr 12 14:58:39 Houston, we have a problem. 8) Apr 12 14:58:53 mrmoku, then let's use lfg for that part only Apr 12 14:59:00 TAsn: (what I did) fixed call logging for fsogsmd Apr 12 14:59:19 As I don't think changing the opimd API is the proper solution :P Apr 12 14:59:27 Let's just keep lfg for calls until it's fixed. Apr 12 14:59:36 Nothing else we can do. Apr 12 14:59:40 for contacts that is Apr 12 14:59:50 yeah Apr 12 14:59:53 shitr Apr 12 15:00:25 and back comes the beast :P Apr 12 15:00:36 hehe :P Apr 12 15:00:52 Well, it's not that painful to keep the obsolete code. Apr 12 15:01:52 oh well... readding it then :Z Apr 12 15:05:23 sorry :( Apr 12 15:42:03 JaMa, ping Apr 12 15:42:23 maybe you prefer talking here? Apr 12 15:52:34 JaMa, ping Apr 12 16:03:34 pong Apr 12 16:09:00 and leaving.. bye Apr 12 16:12:25 JaMa, sorry didn't saw the ping Apr 12 16:12:58 JaMa, some of your commit result in parsing errors Apr 12 16:13:13 can't compile for now(yes I know I could mask the recipes) Apr 12 16:13:14 pushing.. Apr 12 16:13:17 ok Apr 12 16:13:18 thanks Apr 12 16:13:38 they seem to have been triggered by some git merge or something like that Apr 12 16:16:02 JaMa, btw can I ask you something unrelated: I've that "EnterVT failed for screen 0" even if xserver 1.8 has file://hack-fbdev-ignore-return-mode.patch;patch=1 Apr 12 16:17:06 that patch is for something a bit else.. Apr 12 16:18:29 GNUtoo: iirc I needed that patch (or patched fbdev kernel driver) in case someone was expecting mode switching to work and then failed on ioctl, but don't remember exactly and now I have to go.. Apr 12 16:18:29 http://gitorious.org/gumstix-oe/mainline/commit/a197e5c95cb56d5952dadccb928923721e2a9ea4 Apr 12 16:18:37 seem the exact problem I have Apr 12 16:18:42 resume or chvt kills Xorg Apr 12 16:18:54 ok Apr 12 16:18:57 see you soon then Apr 12 16:19:29 GNUtoo: for me it was killing Xorg ie when running xinput-calibrator gui or tscal Apr 12 16:19:36 ok Apr 12 17:06:40 GNUtoo: you're right; with fbiocblank it doesn't crash :) Apr 12 17:06:53 ok Apr 12 17:06:55 building the final image for testing now Apr 12 17:06:59 ok Apr 12 17:07:15 mickeyl, suspend/resume is disabled in your image right? Apr 12 17:07:30 not yet Apr 12 17:07:38 ok Apr 12 17:07:47 but once i enabled fbioblank it no longer oopses on suspend Apr 12 17:07:50 (which is not working anyways) Apr 12 17:07:54 just the fake, broken suspend Apr 12 17:07:55 ok Apr 12 17:08:17 I've an issue with xorg and suspend,but it seem that I'm not alone with this Apr 12 17:08:31 well, as long as suspend is not working at all Apr 12 17:08:32 same issue than here: http://gitorious.org/gumstix-oe/mainline/commit/a197e5c95cb56d5952dadccb928923721e2a9ea4 Apr 12 17:08:42 ok Apr 12 17:08:50 perhaps fixing suspend fixes your issue as well Apr 12 17:08:54 but earlysuspend seem to consume less Apr 12 17:08:57 like... making it do somthing real Apr 12 17:09:10 ? Apr 12 17:09:14 well, yeah, it disables input devices as far as i can see Apr 12 17:09:20 yes Apr 12 17:09:21 (rel input) Apr 12 17:09:27 but not much more Apr 12 17:09:31 synaptics Apr 12 17:09:56 all rel input Apr 12 17:10:09 i.e. trackball Apr 12 17:10:12 mickeyl, also did you have debugfs in kenrel Apr 12 17:10:14 ? Apr 12 17:10:15 ok Apr 12 17:10:17 never, no Apr 12 17:10:23 add it Apr 12 17:10:25 do you think that could make wifi work? Apr 12 17:10:31 it can Apr 12 17:10:34 hmm Apr 12 17:10:35 it crashes without it for me Apr 12 17:10:39 wah Apr 12 17:10:42 really? Apr 12 17:10:48 I've no debug enabled at all but that Apr 12 17:10:52 and it works well and is fast Apr 12 17:10:55 ok, can you share your defconfig again, please? Apr 12 17:11:00 config derived from oe Apr 12 17:11:01 ok Apr 12 17:11:11 (or just the diff) Apr 12 17:11:14 are you shure you want no debug,that's for "production" Apr 12 17:11:34 (the no debug makes the phone usable for daily life but not for debugging) Apr 12 17:11:41 and the contrary is also true Apr 12 17:11:46 it depends Apr 12 17:11:53 there are some debug settings which makes the system considerably slower Apr 12 17:11:55 at least under SHR Apr 12 17:12:00 i don't mind debug info that adds space Apr 12 17:12:02 like spinlock_debug Apr 12 17:12:06 ok Apr 12 17:12:11 neither do I Apr 12 17:12:56 i'm not unsatisfied with what i have now Apr 12 17:13:01 at least it's a baseline Apr 12 17:13:05 with some things working Apr 12 17:15:07 mickeyl, we must fix suspend Apr 12 17:16:01 yes Apr 12 17:16:03 #1 priority Apr 12 17:16:10 and xorg Apr 12 17:16:10 everything else can wait Apr 12 17:16:14 ok Apr 12 17:16:27 I'll need phh's help then Apr 12 17:18:16 yeah Apr 12 17:20:16 so, which debugfs options do you have switched on? Apr 12 17:20:51 mickeyl, only debugfs Apr 12 17:20:54 I'll give config Apr 12 17:21:22 OKI Apr 12 17:21:24 oki Apr 12 17:21:40 also we may want wl1251_sdio =y Apr 12 17:21:44 not tested Apr 12 17:21:47 yes Apr 12 17:21:51 that's in oe right now Apr 12 17:21:53 but rmmod wl1251_sdio crashes Apr 12 17:21:54 ok Apr 12 17:22:02 http://pastebin.com/AvsWJsjA Apr 12 17:22:16 mickeyl, ok I'll try to rebase my changes against oe Apr 12 17:22:25 great Apr 12 17:22:27 but I'll have to eat soon Apr 12 17:22:59 again??? Apr 12 17:23:00 ;) Apr 12 17:24:15 no in 20/40 min Apr 12 17:24:22 hmm, CONFIG_DEBUG_FS=y Apr 12 17:24:23 but Apr 12 17:24:37 +# CONFIG_MAC80211_DEBUGFS is not set Apr 12 17:24:38 and Apr 12 17:24:47 ok Apr 12 17:24:48 +# CONFIG_CFG80211_DEBUGFS is not set Apr 12 17:24:50 is that ok? Apr 12 17:24:56 I think so... Apr 12 17:25:00 it's the kenrel I run Apr 12 17:25:02 ok, if it works for you, i'll try Apr 12 17:25:06 but I'll rebase against oe Apr 12 17:26:06 mickeyl: what ide are you using for vala? Apr 12 17:26:09 okies Apr 12 17:26:11 Q-Master: geany Apr 12 17:26:15 not much of an IDE Apr 12 17:26:17 but i like it a lot Apr 12 17:29:12 does geany support multiple styleguides? Apr 12 17:29:30 I really like Code::Blocks, but it is almost useless for anything except C/C++ Apr 12 17:30:12 mickeyl, wl1251 is module for me in oe Apr 12 17:31:00 GNUtoo: updated recently? Apr 12 17:31:07 i commited my current defconfig 20 minutes ago Apr 12 17:31:10 yes today after the parsing breakaga Apr 12 17:31:35 too old, please pull Apr 12 17:31:36 c6d01532bf022188091cdf6f58350e6312a05176 Apr 12 17:31:38 ok Apr 12 17:36:48 GNUtoo: must the debugfs be mounted or is it enough to be compiled? Apr 12 17:37:05 compiled is enough Apr 12 17:37:09 ok, trying now Apr 12 17:37:43 OMG! Apr 12 17:38:13 O M F G Apr 12 17:38:16 it works! Apr 12 17:38:22 you're a genious :D Apr 12 17:38:29 how the hell did you find out? Apr 12 17:38:35 * mickeyl dances a jiog Apr 12 17:38:38 and a jig as well Apr 12 17:40:48 mickeyl, trying Apr 12 17:40:56 lots of hours Apr 12 17:41:05 lots of trial-errors Apr 12 17:41:13 awesome Apr 12 17:41:13 that's really amazing Apr 12 17:41:20 nice Apr 12 17:41:31 unfortunately i don't know who to blame for that Apr 12 17:41:37 would love to blame one :) Apr 12 17:41:39 git blame? Apr 12 17:41:56 hehe, i don't know whether that will make the problem obvious Apr 12 17:42:11 but now that we know, someone with more time and energy can find _why_ it crashes without debugfs Apr 12 17:42:19 and we can move on ;) Apr 12 17:42:27 yes someone else Apr 12 17:42:38 because now we have debug and xorg to care about Apr 12 17:42:43 s/debug/suspend Apr 12 17:43:07 yeah Apr 12 17:43:20 suspend/resume, bluetooth, gps, compass Apr 12 17:43:48 mickeyl: is there autocompletion possible? Apr 12 17:44:06 Q-Master: yes, although not semantically, it works reasonably well Apr 12 17:44:19 you have to have the files open which contains the stuff you want to autocomplete though Apr 12 17:44:27 so i usually load the working set of vapi's in :) Apr 12 17:44:39 mickeyl: ahh. not very good... Apr 12 17:44:45 but anyway Apr 12 17:44:47 ะตั€ั‚ั‡ Apr 12 17:44:52 mickeyl, bluetooth is easy,but I care more about suspend and Xorg Apr 12 17:44:53 thnx Apr 12 17:45:43 telephony will come with the efforts of mrmoku Apr 12 17:45:58 under SHR Apr 12 17:46:01 right Apr 12 17:49:34 compass on fr? Apr 12 17:50:30 der-lehmann1: they are talking about some non-free..runner hardware Apr 12 17:50:45 ah ok Apr 12 17:51:08 der-lehmann1, yes we're trying to port SHR on some newer devices Apr 12 17:51:53 I don't know for other devices but on htcdream we don't plan to use other android proprietary things than the firmwares Apr 12 17:53:54 nowadays people want newer hardware,we can't change that,many people went away from the openmoko because of that,and bought n900s or similar things which have lots of proprietary software Apr 12 17:53:55 which is bad Apr 12 17:54:10 GNUtoo, thats good to know Apr 12 17:55:05 the hardware may not be free but the software is,and I think it's better to have that option than having at the end everybody switching to some half/free phone or some iphone Apr 12 17:56:17 I'll eat Apr 12 17:57:51 bon appetit! Apr 12 17:57:53 eat a lot Apr 12 17:57:54 :) Apr 12 17:58:13 fwiw, our faux suspend does not kill wifi Apr 12 17:58:22 i bet true suspend will Apr 12 17:58:23 (eventually) Apr 12 18:26:20 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rea3bab7500aa 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): the return of lfg - we need it still for saving contacts :/ Apr 12 18:27:21 mickeyl: btw. I had no luck with releasing _one_ call... release all works Apr 12 18:27:31 gave me some CRE Apr 12 18:27:38 err Apr 12 18:27:43 some error Apr 12 18:27:52 (don't remember which one) Apr 12 18:29:47 ok... just tired Apr 12 18:29:49 grr Apr 12 18:29:50 tgried Apr 12 18:29:53 :P Apr 12 18:29:59 story is different Apr 12 18:30:10 releasing a call does not work before having it accepted Apr 12 18:30:18 that was different with ogsmd I think Apr 12 18:30:32 when releasing a call that is not yet active (still incoming) Apr 12 18:30:34 I get Apr 12 18:30:36 org.freesmartphone.GSM.DeviceFailed: +CME ERROR: 3 Apr 12 18:31:00 release all works fine and releasing that call after accepting works too Apr 12 18:32:23 * mrmoku adds a ticket for that :) Apr 12 18:33:00 mrmoku: good. now that we're slowly going towards production phase, feel free to add all oddities you see into the tracker Apr 12 18:33:17 some things we can still talk about (i.e. API and behaviour), nothing set in stone Apr 12 18:33:58 yep Apr 12 18:34:10 is there something going on regarding ogpsd? Apr 12 18:35:28 * mrmoku wants to kill the snake ;) Apr 12 18:36:04 mickeyl, back Apr 12 18:37:33 JaMa, welcome back Apr 12 18:37:41 JaMa, do you have an idea for xorg? Apr 12 18:37:54 note that we have framebuffer console disabled Apr 12 18:38:25 mrmoku: hmm, that's a tough one. i'm pondering between "screw you, i'll just invent my own API" and picking one of the established ones up Apr 12 18:39:17 fwiw, a minimal amount of NMEA parsing is already in fsotdld Apr 12 18:39:22 (we use it to gather the time) Apr 12 18:39:34 might as well enhance it a bit to feature location updates Apr 12 18:39:56 but another thing you will have to do yourself as it looks :/ Apr 12 18:40:25 indeed Apr 12 18:40:52 i still hope that i get some help for the actual fso2 once we released some demos on more hardware Apr 12 18:41:03 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r131d38791946 10/src/phoneui-utils-sound.c: phoneui-utils-sound.c: don't keep preferences proxy Apr 12 18:41:06 because it's already over my maxx capacity Apr 12 18:41:07 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rbd742e33a6c0 10/src/ (phoneui-utils-sim.c phoneui-utils.c): phoneui-utils(-sim): coding style fixes Apr 12 18:41:08 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r91f65dbf587a 10/src/phoneui-utils-sim.c: phoneui-utils-sim.c: do not call free_smartphone_gsm_sim_entry_free Apr 12 18:41:09 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r791153f31916 10/src/phoneui-utils-calls.c: phoneui-utils-calls.c: use ReleaseAll instead of Release (for now) Apr 12 18:41:14 yeah, for most people FreeRunners are not that attractive :P Apr 12 18:41:20 * mrmoku still loves it :) Apr 12 18:41:21 *nod* pity, but true Apr 12 18:42:26 hmm Apr 12 18:42:41 for some reason this kernel sends no uevent updates once usb is unplugged Apr 12 18:42:55 i don't even get an initial one that updates the status from "charging "to "discharging" Apr 12 18:43:00 kernel hacking above :D Apr 12 18:43:21 err, ahead Apr 12 18:45:45 GNUtoo: do you have BT when it kills Xorg? Apr 12 18:46:56 JaMa, xorg is not really killed,it exits by itself Apr 12 18:47:37 GNUtoo: I had similar hack for kernel driver, mmt I'll try to find it Apr 12 18:47:51 ok Apr 12 18:47:54 thanks a lot!!! Apr 12 18:48:41 GNUtoo: leviathan: pushed two patches to fix full screen logo in msmfb; please review Apr 12 18:48:51 (yes, they work ;) Apr 12 18:48:54 ok Apr 12 18:49:15 that's why there is logo config in oe Apr 12 18:49:16 ok Apr 12 18:49:21 nice Apr 12 18:49:59 it's pretty cool, you just have to put it into our initramdisk and then we get the first stage logo right when the framebuffer is initialized Apr 12 18:50:11 wow Apr 12 18:50:11 2nd stage logo we'll do when init launches Apr 12 18:50:12 hmm, ok Apr 12 18:50:16 nice Apr 12 18:50:21 :D Apr 12 18:50:37 GNUtoo: http://osdir.com/ml/general/2009-06/msg04176.html Apr 12 18:50:44 I tried squashfs btw Apr 12 18:50:45 i'll take a look at the missing kobject notifications now Apr 12 18:50:55 but somehow it doesnt work on our "nand" Apr 12 18:51:03 kk Apr 12 18:51:22 GNUtoo: but I tried it only on sharp zaurus and it worked like that hack which is now in xserver from oe.dev (and then I dropped it from my spitz kernel) Apr 12 18:52:07 mickeyl: the missing + for sim contacts is not fix yet, right? will add a ticket then :) Apr 12 18:52:35 mrmoku: yes, thanks Apr 12 18:52:37 JaMa, thanks a lot we have no such ioctl,so might fix it Apr 12 18:55:42 don't expect much, I was testing it only on "tscal dies or not", dying while resume seems like harder problem to solve :/ Apr 12 18:56:15 ok Apr 12 18:56:29 but we have no FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO and xorg complained about that Apr 12 18:58:44 leviathan: (squashfs) just fyi, not exactly relevant: openwrt uses a smart hack: since on routers of the root filesystem is mostly static, they store it in squashfs and on boot the kernel auto-splits the rootfs partition in squashfs and rootfs_data parts, with jffs2 used on the latter overlayed on top of the squashfs later in the boot process. Apr 12 18:59:30 hmm Apr 12 18:59:45 PaulFertser: basically I'd like to use ubifs in htcdream Apr 12 18:59:51 leviathan: of course :() Apr 12 18:59:58 leviathan: i meant :) Apr 12 19:00:13 ah no my memory was wrong Apr 12 19:00:14 [4085872.237] (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument Apr 12 19:00:18 but it doesnt work, because the mtd driver of android is sowhat of broken Apr 12 19:01:17 leviathan: no wonder... But shouldn't be too hard to fix, i think some ubifs docs mention typical driver problems. Apr 12 19:01:31 not this one Apr 12 19:06:21 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r813b8b680685 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_powersupply/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: kernel26_powersupply: use string templates and wrap debug log in assert() Apr 12 19:08:19 hmm Apr 12 19:08:32 perhaps its a kernel issue i need to only work around Apr 12 19:08:33 okee Apr 12 19:08:47 well, perhaps I should do my homework for tomorrow first :) Apr 12 19:10:57 aaaaaa ha Apr 12 19:11:04 here it comes: Apr 12 19:11:13 case CHARGER_BATTERY: Apr 12 19:11:13 ret = POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS_NOT_CHARGING; Apr 12 19:11:13 break; Apr 12 19:11:17 tss tss Apr 12 19:11:21 that's wrong Apr 12 19:11:35 can't those people read other drivers? Apr 12 19:11:36 *sigh* Apr 12 19:12:04 ok, error has gone Apr 12 19:12:06 * mickeyl fixes Apr 12 19:12:09 but now it hangs >_< Apr 12 19:12:55 mickeyl, you found the cause of not suspending? Apr 12 19:13:06 no, sorry Apr 12 19:13:09 ok Apr 12 19:13:14 just the case of improper power supply readings Apr 12 19:13:31 * mickeyl deals with small kernel problems, not the big ones Apr 12 19:17:13 It's usually hard to understand why the kernel doesn't resume... Apr 12 19:17:31 we have a slightly different problem Apr 12 19:17:34 it immediately resumes Apr 12 19:17:40 hmm Apr 12 19:17:41 and we don't know why Apr 12 19:17:56 mickeyl: so the actual suspend happens for sure? Well, that's another matter then. Apr 12 19:18:05 mickeyl: sounds like you have disabled earlysuspend? Apr 12 19:18:24 fake suspend works with Xorg but not real one Apr 12 19:19:05 mickeyl: probably it can be even considered "easy" given you have SoC documentation: it should be "clear" how to obtain resume reason :) Apr 12 19:19:14 it does [ 73.316467] init sharp panel in continuation Apr 12 19:20:35 * PaulFertser is going to try to install all the latest-and-greatest FSO2 on his Debian tomorrow to finally catch up with you cool folks ;) Apr 12 19:20:45 PaulFertser yeah, qualcomm and documented... Apr 12 19:20:47 PaulFertser: cool Apr 12 19:20:53 [ 73.620758] wakeup wake lock: SMD_RPCCALL Apr 12 19:21:16 mickeyl: doesn't android use some means of obtaining the resume reason? Apr 12 19:21:42 probably Apr 12 19:21:57 i did not dare to go into the suspend/resume path yet Apr 12 19:22:02 i think that's too deep for a userland guy Apr 12 19:22:16 I think it does but I don't remember Apr 12 19:22:17 mickeyl: that's what you have leviathan for :) Apr 12 19:22:24 yeah, and GNUtoo Apr 12 19:23:16 ^^ Apr 12 19:23:29 hmm, git question... how can i make the diff --ignore-space-at-eol options persistent? Apr 12 19:24:50 leviathan: without wakelocks for now, otherwise we don't even get so far, but i'd say we first check why it resumes immediately before checking why it's such a big hurdle to issue suspend at first Apr 12 19:25:07 or perhaps vice versa Apr 12 19:25:10 dunno Apr 12 19:25:12 *shrug* Apr 12 19:25:45 :) Apr 12 19:25:53 its a kernel config issue I guess Apr 12 19:26:00 because I have you kernel here Apr 12 19:26:01 it works Apr 12 19:26:30 it works??? Apr 12 19:26:32 but I can try with newest patches Apr 12 19:26:44 if its something you guy's recently have broken ;-) Apr 12 19:26:48 wait wait wait Apr 12 19:27:03 your kernel suspends and resumes fine? (and we talk about real suspend, not fake one) Apr 12 19:27:03 leviathan, what do you mean by it works? Apr 12 19:27:26 maybe it's my recent changes,I made them when it was late Apr 12 19:27:34 I was hurry to finish Apr 12 19:27:40 means it suspends swifty, here, and it comes back Apr 12 19:27:43 mickeyl: (git question) it seems there's no config option for that, i checked the man page... Apr 12 19:27:48 leviathan: show me your dmesg Apr 12 19:27:50 leviathan, dmesg Apr 12 19:27:53 hahaha Apr 12 19:27:56 *5* Apr 12 19:27:58 mom Apr 12 19:28:06 PaulFertser: thanks a lot Apr 12 19:28:08 I'll try with gui and latest release Apr 12 19:28:20 leviathan, dmesg with working version Apr 12 19:28:31 hmm Apr 12 19:28:38 I guess its a kernel config issue Apr 12 19:28:53 not a code issue Apr 12 19:29:49 but anyway Apr 12 19:29:59 mickeyl: nice LOGO thing Apr 12 19:30:07 I'll try it right now Apr 12 19:30:08 ;D Apr 12 19:31:50 yeah Apr 12 19:32:18 wah, wifi SUCKS power like there's no tomorrow Apr 12 19:34:45 mickeyl: you can use core.whitespace=-trailing-space to make diff not highlight them with color. And you can add a convenient short alias for your special diff command. Apr 12 19:35:14 PaulFertser: ok, that's better, thanks Apr 12 19:35:20 :) Apr 12 19:35:42 i don't want to fix my editor to not strip line endings etc. Apr 12 19:35:50 [ 91.447937] init sharp panel Apr 12 19:35:50 [ 112.164978] request_suspend_state: sleep (0->3) at 108639347022 (2010-04-12 20:34:19.740997337 UTC) Apr 12 19:35:50 [ 112.178680] deinit sharp panel Apr 12 19:35:50 [ 116.981781] request_suspend_state: wakeup (3->0) at 113456149952 (2010-04-12 20:34:24.557769750 UTC) Apr 12 19:35:50 [ 117.098480] init sharp panel Apr 12 19:35:53 works fine Apr 12 19:35:57 nope Apr 12 19:36:01 no suspend for you Apr 12 19:36:02 I do not have ANY problem Apr 12 19:36:05 yeah Apr 12 19:36:06 apm -s Apr 12 19:36:08 because it doesn't suspend at all Apr 12 19:36:14 i thought we had cleared that up days ago Apr 12 19:36:20 what you see is not a suspend Apr 12 19:36:23 there's no Apr 12 19:36:25 Freezing tasks.... Apr 12 19:36:26 ... Apr 12 19:36:29 Restarting tasks... Apr 12 19:36:33 uhm Apr 12 19:36:34 what you see is a small sleep mode Apr 12 19:36:35 nothing more Apr 12 19:36:39 hmm Apr 12 19:37:49 in that mode you will get 7h battery life due to not halting arm11 Apr 12 19:38:13 android kernel is doing full suspend Apr 12 19:40:57 hmm Apr 12 19:41:15 ok, well, I'd prefer to keep music mplayer running... :) Apr 12 19:41:23 like todays train/bus-travel Apr 12 19:41:30 you can Apr 12 19:41:33 it was usefull to just having suspended the display Apr 12 19:41:34 that's why we have FBIOBLANK Apr 12 19:41:39 yes Apr 12 19:41:46 ok, well, I'll look Apr 12 19:41:50 greta Apr 12 19:41:54 great Apr 12 19:42:11 but for further development it would be great to have the FS flashable more simple Apr 12 19:42:20 then booting into mtd rootfs Apr 12 19:42:27 scping the tarbz2 Apr 12 19:42:33 formating sd card Apr 12 19:42:43 mounting it with option noatatime Apr 12 19:42:55 and then unpacking stuff and rebooting Apr 12 19:43:04 mickeyl, maybe I broke suspend,it could be possible,check without framebuffer Apr 12 19:43:23 GNUtoo: ok, please do. i don't think you did though Apr 12 19:43:29 we should check upstream Apr 12 19:43:32 how can we get working stuff, when even mtd is broken? Apr 12 19:43:33 where this kernel has been derived from Apr 12 19:43:41 hmm Apr 12 19:43:49 googles drivers are crap Apr 12 19:43:52 why do you insist on something as unimportant as mtd? Apr 12 19:44:07 SD wins in all cases Apr 12 19:44:11 mickeyl, ok Apr 12 19:44:30 because it would make development faster Apr 12 19:44:34 mickeyl, I told leviathan to repartitionate his sd Apr 12 19:44:36 how so? Apr 12 19:44:42 if I could just flash new filesystems with fastboot Apr 12 19:44:55 why do you need to flash all the time? Apr 12 19:44:56 it would get much more faster Apr 12 19:45:02 uhhm Apr 12 19:45:02 we'Re sufficiently stable so you can just opkg update Apr 12 19:45:08 i'm using the same SD since weeks Apr 12 19:45:16 just opkg updating when i have newer software to test Apr 12 19:45:21 do we have a common repo btw? Apr 12 19:45:30 unfortunately not Apr 12 19:45:34 ok Apr 12 19:45:37 perhaps we can abuse SHR's buildserver Apr 12 19:45:45 hmm Apr 12 19:45:54 else we can use this 16-core machine Apr 12 19:45:58 heh Apr 12 19:46:10 http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~davidlan/downloads/OE/htcdream/ Apr 12 19:46:11 :) Apr 12 19:47:22 btw mickeyl you talked about an upstream msmfb driver? where is it? Apr 12 19:48:28 GNUtoo: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=tree;f=drivers/video/msm Apr 12 19:48:36 ok Apr 12 19:48:42 largely revamped with the introduction of q8 support Apr 12 19:49:00 at least the lower layers Apr 12 19:49:32 ok Apr 12 19:49:49 ah, sorry wrong branch Apr 12 19:49:54 http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32 Apr 12 19:49:56 that's the right branch Apr 12 19:51:06 ok, 1h of wifi constantly pinging brings our power from 100% to 60% Apr 12 19:51:14 * mickeyl shocked Apr 12 19:52:15 wow Apr 12 19:52:22 f** Apr 12 19:52:26 that's a bit worse than i thought Apr 12 19:52:29 dito Apr 12 19:53:03 and yes, the display is off Apr 12 19:53:30 and the wifi chip really warms the hand :) Apr 12 19:53:35 good for the winter Apr 12 19:53:38 *cough* Apr 12 19:53:46 *g* Apr 12 19:54:08 2.457 GHz is also quite near to one absorption maximum of water... Apr 12 19:54:49 perhaps we can move down to 802.11b Apr 12 19:54:54 don't necessarily need to use g Apr 12 19:55:34 and that's while we're in max. downclock Apr 12 19:55:36 528 Mhz 1.6% Apr 12 19:55:36 384 Mhz 0.8% Apr 12 19:55:37 246 Mhz 0.0% Apr 12 19:55:37 128 Mhz 0.0% Apr 12 19:55:37 123 Mhz 97.6% Apr 12 19:56:29 bbl Apr 12 20:16:06 for wifi it's a soft mac Apr 12 20:16:18 but it's listed in the top3 better chip for embedded devices Apr 12 20:24:44 mickey|bbl, maybe I should do that: restore the suspend functions,and do panel->blank(panel) and panel->unblank(panel) for the fbioblank ? Apr 12 20:24:53 what do people think of that? Apr 12 20:26:05 I've got huge suspend issue in msm_fb.c that I'm unable to solve Apr 12 20:30:21 TAsn: ping Apr 12 21:00:30 mrmoku, pong Apr 12 21:00:44 ping me again when you need me :P Apr 12 21:05:06 ERROR: Unbuildable tasks were found :( after latest OE pull Apr 12 21:07:53 TAsn: ping :) Apr 12 21:07:53 Aborted dependency loops search after 10 matches. Apr 12 21:08:02 hey Apr 12 21:08:03 sup? Apr 12 21:08:12 I have a problem with phoneuid on my laptop Apr 12 21:08:16 with window sizing Apr 12 21:08:32 does the inwin field select work for you? Apr 12 21:08:38 it sizes smaaaaaaaaaaaaal for me Apr 12 21:08:42 and is not resizable Apr 12 21:09:41 same here Apr 12 21:09:44 (same issue) Apr 12 21:09:51 I haven't found the time to fix it. Apr 12 21:10:40 if I do elm_win_fullscreen_set the contact window is fullscreen... until the inwin pops up :/ Apr 12 21:10:43 mrmoku, we should set more "minimal sizes" Apr 12 21:10:56 set minimal size Apr 12 21:11:02 but we set that in ui-utils Apr 12 21:11:19 I even tried to raise the values... with no effect Apr 12 21:11:46 and as raster once said... they are only hints Apr 12 21:11:53 the wm does not have to obey Apr 12 21:15:08 TAsn: another thing I just noticed... what format does a datefield require? Apr 12 21:15:19 int :P Apr 12 21:15:24 Yeah, I know that one. Apr 12 21:15:30 ahh :P Apr 12 21:15:41 I should fix it like I did with file editing Apr 12 21:15:51 though I was waiting for an elementary calender widget :| Apr 12 21:16:05 But I guess if we wrap a text -> int thingie Apr 12 21:16:06 ohh... wasn't somebody working on that? Apr 12 21:16:08 it'll be just fine. Apr 12 21:16:18 mrmoku, he was, but he quit and he gave me the code Apr 12 21:16:21 I should fix it :P Apr 12 21:16:24 :P Apr 12 21:16:46 anyway... opimd should convert text to timestamp Apr 12 21:17:54 btw, if someone happens to be interested, check #foxtrotGPS Apr 12 21:18:16 rhkfin: tango forked? :P Apr 12 21:18:53 mrmoku, opimd is just a db manager Apr 12 21:19:04 I want it to be as dumb as possible :P Apr 12 21:19:11 And converting text->int is bad Apr 12 21:19:18 hmm Apr 12 21:19:19 ok Apr 12 21:19:21 as a software that writes text will probably expect text Apr 12 21:19:26 and I won't provide it. Apr 12 21:19:31 then we have to do it in libphone-ui Apr 12 21:23:50 http://bridepop.com/proposal/video-game-hacked-for-geeky-proposal/ <--- what a geek :P Apr 12 21:24:10 I should propose to my (yet to be found) future wife by hacking her cellphone :P Apr 12 21:24:20 mrmoku, I disagree. Apr 12 21:24:32 mrmoku, I think this should be done in libphone-ui-shr Apr 12 21:24:37 it should choose the date format Apr 12 21:24:43 according to what it find fit. Apr 12 21:24:55 Don't forget we want to show it using a calender Apr 12 21:25:07 so making it text is useless Apr 12 21:25:25 whatever... we have to fix it... I want to save my birthday to not forget it ;) Apr 12 21:25:26 For temporary hacks in ui-shr it's ok to do it, but not in libphone-ui Apr 12 21:25:35 *YOUR* birthday? Apr 12 21:25:43 sure :P Apr 12 21:25:53 You have yourself as a contact?L Apr 12 21:26:09 how do you send yourself SMS otherwise :P Apr 12 21:27:05 * mrmoku sends SMS to test if SMS works with SHR for 90% Apr 12 21:28:27 ok, going to bed now... gnight all Apr 12 21:30:11 mrmoku|away, type in the number, duh. Apr 12 22:03:21 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r1b98430c9215 10/zhone2/src/main.vala: zhone2: fix power status display Apr 12 22:51:15 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r4586cf4eb636 10/zhone2/ (data/themes/toby/images/icon_accept.png src/main.vala): zhone2: force max/min volume, if corresponding button is held for a second Apr 12 23:17:49 btw own data is usually a normal contacts record with a special tag, so you can send out vcards etc without any special effort **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 13 02:59:56 2010