**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 01 02:59:56 2010
May 01 07:46:40 <JaMa> ~spank udev
May 01 07:46:42 * infobot bends udev over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on udev's pasty white buttocks.
May 01 08:08:45 * von_fritz spanks his phone ... nothing works :(
May 01 08:10:06 <JaMa> does spanking help?
May 01 08:10:54 <von_fritz> after 4 reboots finaly sr-elm-softkey, worser than windows :)
May 01 08:11:41 <JaMa> [Rui]: moin
May 01 08:12:02 <von_fritz> but still no shr-settings icon
May 01 08:12:48 <JaMa> von_fritz: ln -s /usr/share/applications/shr-settings.desktop ~/.e/e/appshadow/"biggest number".desktop
May 01 08:14:07 <von_fritz> JaMa thanks :)
May 01 08:32:39 <[Rui]> JaMa: moin
May 01 08:34:19 <[Rui]> JaMa: about those paths, I already applied that patch, I mentioned it in my last release's email
May 01 08:34:35 <[Rui]> JaMa: which is the 2.6.32 one, gta02-bl or the other one?
May 01 08:46:29 <Heinervdm> this sounds promising: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
May 01 08:48:53 <GarthPS> HI all, I have an issue withe the SHR-u image of before-yesterday, black screen. I want to flash with the image of yesterday but I juste receivved a SMS! arg! so I can I read my message via ssh?
May 01 08:49:03 <GarthPS> dbus?
May 01 08:49:09 <GarthPS> I am on it
May 01 08:49:23 <GarthPS> but can't find for the moment 
May 01 08:49:31 <GarthPS> so If someone have a clue
May 01 08:52:35 <[Rui]> GarthPS: sure, just install opimd-utils-cli
May 01 08:52:54 <GarthPS> ah yes I did not though about that! :p
May 01 08:53:02 <GarthPS> Is it easy after?
May 01 08:53:36 <GarthPS> already installed in fact
May 01 08:54:07 <[Rui]> GarthPS: then you can opimd-cli m query (for list) or opimd-cli m query N for just that message (IIRC)
May 01 08:54:32 <[Rui]> I don't RC :)
May 01 08:54:40 <GarthPS> RC?
May 01 08:54:55 <[Rui]> from IIRC (if I recall correctly) :)
May 01 08:55:45 <mrmoku> tim_abell: what part are you trying to modify/build?
May 01 08:58:17 <GarthPS> Yeah excelent! thx Rui
May 01 08:58:44 <[Rui]> GarthPS: no problem, been there :)
May 01 09:03:12 <mrmoku> spaetz: ping
May 01 09:12:17 <mrmoku> mickeyl: morning... is something like http://shr.pastebin.com/uyUEk9u2 of interest for you?
May 01 09:13:42 <mickeyl> mrmoku: sure, always. note though that not every AT command I send will receive an OK, e.g. it is perfectly legal for some to return errors
May 01 09:14:01 <mickeyl> from your paste, the only thing worrying me is the COPS0,0 -> 32
May 01 09:14:10 <mrmoku> mickeyl: yeah, ok
May 01 09:14:49 <mickeyl>         CME_ERROR_032_NETWORK_NOT_ALLOWED_EMERGENCY_CALLS_ONLY = 1032,
May 01 09:15:15 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ahh, that might have been in cinema yesterday :P
May 01 09:15:29 <mrmoku> that would be fine then too
May 01 09:15:29 <mickeyl> ah
May 01 09:15:34 <mickeyl> your home network not available there?
May 01 09:15:50 <mrmoku> they block all networks... and leave only the emergency call possibility somehow
May 01 09:15:57 <mickeyl> ooh
May 01 09:15:59 <mickeyl> hightech
May 01 09:16:08 <mickeyl> ok, yeah in that case the log will be fine
May 01 09:16:19 <mrmoku> good
May 01 09:16:26 <mrmoku> btw. I still have sporadic wakeups
May 01 09:16:36 <mrmoku> and I _think_ there was some CME ERROR on wake up too
May 01 09:16:50 <mrmoku> will try to get some log
May 01 09:16:53 <mickeyl> yeah
May 01 09:17:03 <[Rui]> mrmoku: I wish they'd do that in our cinemas :)
May 01 09:17:20 <mrmoku> [Rui]: lots of phones ringing over there? :P
May 01 09:17:58 <[Rui]> mrmoku: worse, people actually picking up the call, and not even having the shame to not say "well, I'm at the cinema, what's up?"
May 01 09:18:32 <mrmoku> hehe
May 01 09:18:53 <mrmoku> mickeyl: another thing is... still echo and grepping the transport log for %N doesn't show anything
May 01 09:20:52 <mrmoku> JaMa: (EFL bump for focus fix) which fix is that? :)
May 01 09:22:01 <mickeyl> mrmoku: ok, that's unfortunate. i have about 1h to dedicated to FSO today, i guess i will check for the echo and the gprs fallacy then
May 01 09:23:07 <mrmoku> Ainulindale: somehow I lost my access to the blog... created a new login, but that is only allowed to comment... and I want to create some nice blog :) Could you advance me to something more privilleged please?
May 01 09:23:11 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ok
May 01 09:23:18 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: are you sure you've modified the config file to actually enable echo cancellation?
May 01 09:23:37 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: quite sure... 
May 01 09:23:39 * mrmoku rechecks
May 01 09:24:01 <mrmoku> dsp_mode = 0187
May 01 09:24:08 <mrmoku> is what I have in there
May 01 09:24:40 <mrmoku> framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py:    "aec+nr":           "0187",
May 01 09:24:44 <mrmoku> should be correct then
May 01 09:24:53 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: ok. Because the code looked quite reasonable and my peer told me there was no echo :)
May 01 09:25:12 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: do you have %N somewhere in the transport log?
May 01 09:25:40 <mrmoku> hmm
May 01 09:25:45 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: guess i'll have to enable it again to check.
May 01 09:25:53 <mrmoku> let me try to actually make a call...
May 01 09:25:55 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: can't recall where is the admin page...
May 01 09:26:00 <mrmoku> Ainulindale: hehe :P
May 01 09:26:03 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: yep, that's a prerequisitive.
May 01 09:26:53 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: I had a call where my wife complained about echo and not understanding anything... might have had other reasons too (mic too loud or something) and the log is from reboot afterwards and I did not do calls...
May 01 09:27:21 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: it's true!
May 01 09:27:26 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: I can't find it
May 01 09:27:41 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: i can also tell you my peer said it sounded like my mic sensitivity is a bit too high: noise gate never kicked in (and i was in a quite room) and the sound of my voice a bit distorted.
May 01 09:28:01 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: distorted is what she said too
May 01 09:28:08 <[Rui]> I still say nearly nobody can't understand a thing I say with the current sidetone mux, no matter what volume I use.
May 01 09:28:25 <mrmoku> Ainulindale: maybe spaetz knows... he's our blog champ :)
May 01 09:29:58 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: tried an incoming call and still no %N
May 01 09:30:09 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: tried answering it?
May 01 09:30:12 <mrmoku> should be somewhere between
May 01 09:30:13 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T09:25:59.843714Z [DEBUG] libfsotransport <0710:2>: Wrote 'A'. Waiting for answer...
May 01 09:30:22 <mrmoku> and
May 01 09:30:23 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T09:26:08.821788Z [DEBUG] libfsotransport <0710:2>: Wrote 'H'. Waiting for answer...
May 01 09:30:26 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: yep
May 01 09:30:26 <PaulFertser> Hm, yes
May 01 09:30:57 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: well, then it's one extra thing for mickey|breakfast to check after he's done with his tasty food.
May 01 09:31:01 <PaulFertser> :)
May 01 09:31:03 <mrmoku> :)
May 01 09:31:07 <mrmoku> brb
May 01 09:31:52 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: ah found it
May 01 09:32:50 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: you're now system admin on the blog
May 01 09:33:10 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: in fact that %N command should be triggered by %CPI indication afair
May 01 09:35:27 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: %CPI with 0 or 9. Probably that's another "extra surprise space" there. Can you pass some %CPI's unsols from your log please?
May 01 09:44:55 <JaMa> mrmoku: there was one http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/48469
May 01 09:45:17 <JaMa> mrmoku: no idea if it really fix one of "our" bugs
May 01 09:45:45 <JaMa> mrmoku: but as TAsn demanded newest EFL.. I had to put something in commit msg :)
May 01 09:45:50 <mrmoku> Ainulindale: thanks :)
May 01 09:46:14 <JaMa> mrmoku: and TAsn wasn't responding at that moment and I had to leave..
May 01 09:46:22 <mrmoku> JaMa: ok :P
May 01 09:46:30 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: moment... grepping
May 01 09:47:52 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: 2010-05-01T09:16:28.968330Z [DEBUG] libfsotransport <0710:3>: Wrote '%CPI=0'. Waiting for answer...
May 01 09:48:02 <mrmoku> that is before the call though
May 01 09:48:09 <mrmoku> after it started ringing no CPI anymore
May 01 09:51:48 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: hm, then it probably means that %CPI unsols are disabled altogether, so no wonder %N never kicks in.
May 01 09:53:43 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: but that's strange, it sends %CPI=0 only on suspend and sends %CPI=3 on resume
May 01 09:54:58 <mrmoku> hmm
May 01 09:57:20 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: just tried an incoming call with suspend before
May 01 09:57:27 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: on suspend it does a %CPI=0
May 01 09:57:31 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: and on resume too
May 01 10:00:16 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: lol, look at modem.vala resume()
May 01 10:02:38 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: what bothers me more is segfault after activating gprs :) Probably it even affects other platforms as well. Anyway, fsogsmd just rocks :)
May 01 10:04:08 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: hehe
May 01 10:04:24 * mrmoku tries with s/suspend/resume/
May 01 10:05:31 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: only channel.resume
May 01 10:07:16 <mrmoku> yep... did not touch the advanceToState thing
May 01 10:07:45 <TAsn> JaMa, I'm here again :P
May 01 10:08:05 <mrmoku> TAsn: welcome back then ;)
May 01 10:09:03 <mrmoku> Ainulindale: guess I'm too dump for MT :P
May 01 10:09:24 <mrmoku> Ainulindale: I remember adding a new blog was somehow somewhat hidden...
May 01 10:09:38 <JaMa> TAsn: does elm_softkeyb work for you with e from feed?
May 01 10:10:15 <JaMa> TAsn: me and vanous|away doesn't get events so it's shown but all 3 buttons doesn't do anything
May 01 10:10:52 <TAsn> sec
May 01 10:10:54 <TAsn> checking
May 01 10:11:23 <TAsn> no ;|
May 01 10:12:57 <TAsn> so new e is broken is some way :|
May 01 10:13:11 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: 2010-05-01T10:11:05.254433Z [INFO]  libfsotransport <0710:3>: SRC: "%CPI=3" -> [ "OK" ]
May 01 10:13:17 <mrmoku> on resume now :)
May 01 10:13:22 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: kewl
May 01 10:14:52 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: 2010-05-01T10:12:29.633649Z [INFO]  libfsotransport <0710:2>: SRC: "%N0187" -> [ "EXT: I", "Both AEC and Noise reduction are active", "OK" ]
May 01 10:14:55 <mrmoku> :D
May 01 10:15:10 <PaulFertser> We're uber-haxors
May 01 10:15:12 <mrmoku> mickey|breakfast: one thing less to fix :)
May 01 10:15:24 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: want to commit that yourself?
May 01 10:15:43 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: no, thanks :)
May 01 10:17:36 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07cornucopia * r3c535335bcdb 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/modem.vala: 
May 01 10:17:36 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: fix c&p error in modem.vala
May 01 10:17:36 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: Thanks PaulFertser for spotting that one :-)
May 01 10:17:36 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
May 01 10:23:34 <JaMa> daniele_athome: moin
May 01 10:23:47 <JaMa> daniele_athome: what about mesa-7.8.1? does it compile for you?
May 01 10:23:51 <daniele_athome> JaMa, morning
May 01 10:23:57 <daniele_athome> I didn't have time sorry :(
May 01 10:24:04 <daniele_athome> neither today
May 01 10:24:10 <daniele_athome> I will go in a few minutes
May 01 10:24:10 <JaMa> ok
May 01 10:24:35 <daniele_athome> mmm... but wait
May 01 10:24:41 <daniele_athome> I may just trigger shr build
May 01 10:24:49 <daniele_athome> and then see tomorrow the results
May 01 10:25:38 <TAsn> JaMa, I suspect it has something to do with the recent change in gry theme.
May 01 10:26:10 <JaMa> TAsn: IIRC gry is not autorev and I didn't bump it in last few weeks
May 01 10:26:21 <TAsn> Configuring elementary-theme-gry.
May 01 10:26:55 <JaMa> TAsn: that's only because EFL srcrev is part of its PV
May 01 10:26:56 <TAsn> oh, maybe it's just because of the e upgrade
May 01 10:26:56 <TAsn> nvm.
May 01 10:26:59 <TAsn> yeah.
May 01 10:27:03 <JaMa> TAsn: but gry code is the same
May 01 10:27:05 <TAsn> which is dumb btw.
May 01 10:27:22 <daniele_athome> TAsn, i've posted something for the gry theme in ML
May 01 10:27:30 <TAsn> yeah, saw that.
May 01 10:27:32 <daniele_athome> :)
May 01 10:27:43 <TAsn> might be related, though I'm not susre.
May 01 10:27:50 <TAsn> *might help
May 01 10:28:00 <JaMa> TAsn: yeah.. but can be handy when someone fix bug in edje_cc then it will be rebuilt automagically without PR bumps
May 01 10:28:26 <TAsn> but that's VERY rare
May 01 10:28:35 <JaMa> I agree
May 01 10:28:41 <TAsn> it's like using gcc's rev in all of the packages...
May 01 10:28:57 <TAsn> that's just a lot of work
May 01 10:40:25 <mrmoku> Ainulindale: ok found it :-)
May 01 10:40:59 <JaMa> [Rui]: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/208372/
May 01 10:41:16 <JaMa> [Rui]: so the pcf* is for 2.6.32
May 01 10:41:33 <JaMa> :se noai
May 01 10:41:34 <JaMa> a:se ai
May 01 10:41:42 <[Rui]> JaMa: yeah, meanwhile I verified that and already have some intelligence coded to autodetect.
May 01 10:41:54 <[Rui]> JaMa: thanks :)
May 01 10:42:20 * mickeyl congratulates the new fsogsmd hackers mrmoku and PaulFertser 
May 01 10:42:26 <mickeyl> welcome on board, guys :D
May 01 10:42:40 * mickeyl moves on to another software
May 01 10:42:41 <mickeyl> hehe
May 01 10:43:17 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: where's my gprs?
May 01 10:43:18 <PaulFertser> ;)
May 01 10:43:29 <mickeyl> let me read the code a bit
May 01 10:44:51 <JaMa> [Rui]: sorry I was away in the morning.. and looking forward for autodetection
May 01 10:45:13 <dos1> mickeyl: result of org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.SendTextMessage is always (0, "now"), is that correct? ;o
May 01 10:45:27 <JaMa> [Rui]: what about that Tim's repo? I added _git.bb recipe for his locally.. but doesn't make much sense to have both repos with +- same version :)
May 01 10:45:36 <[Rui]> JaMa: assumes 2.6.29 by default, allows 2.6.32 path.
May 01 10:45:52 <mickeyl> dos1: the 'now' is correct, the reference index should be monotonically increasing during the lifetime
May 01 10:46:09 <mickeyl> (the 'now' is obviously a placeholder)
May 01 10:46:16 <[Rui]> JaMa: when looking for 2.6.29, if it fails, it tries to look for 2.6.32 (and vice versa), failing if neither are found.
May 01 10:46:36 <dos1> mickeyl: so it worked with ogsmd, but with fsogsmd it's always 0 (at least with my few messages i just sent with mdbus2)
May 01 10:46:56 <mickeyl> dos1: ok, please open a ticket
May 01 10:46:58 <von_fritz> shr-sofkey works hier only with doubleclick or tripleclick :D something wrong in my image
May 01 10:46:59 <dos1> mickeyl: but looks like in org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.IncomingMessageReport it's displayed correctly
May 01 10:47:34 <[Rui]> JaMa: it's already committed at the googlecode repo.
May 01 10:47:50 <JaMa> [Rui]: yeah.. that's good (don't forget to change max_value if you detect .32)
May 01 10:48:09 <[Rui]> it's also done :)
May 01 10:49:08 <dos1> ok, my plan to do in this week: fix opimd-utils to work also with fsogsmd
May 01 10:49:15 <dos1> and maybe shr-settings Phone page too
May 01 10:50:49 <JaMa> [Rui]: ahh hidden in "Fix permission as notified by Tim " :)
May 01 10:51:09 <[Rui]> JaMa: yeah, I intended to only commit the data part, and then the src part
May 01 10:51:14 <[Rui]> but I did a mistake
May 01 10:51:31 <[Rui]> anyways, I'm optimizing the code a bit, it doesn't need to init the max value every single time...
May 01 10:52:49 <dos1> mickeyl: ticket created, #556
May 01 10:53:20 <dos1> oh, new homepage of FSO :O
May 01 10:53:43 <[Rui]> I'm now building to make sure a sane package is built.
May 01 10:55:50 * mrmoku moving downstairs
May 01 10:56:14 <JaMa> [Rui]: and other Tim's changes? what do you think?
May 01 10:56:55 <[Rui]> I don't integrate *all* of Tim's changes, he removes the possibility of having rotation always on WRT to suspend/resume :(
May 01 10:57:15 <[Rui]> if one doesn't like this feature, well, just change /etc/default/omnewrotate.conf to START="no" :)
May 01 10:57:26 <[Rui]> or remove the suspend/resume scripts
May 01 10:57:39 <mrmoku> mickeyl: would that fix influence SLEEP too?
May 01 10:57:49 <mrmoku> mickeyl: it did no yet wake up again
May 01 10:57:54 <mrmoku> and it did that quite frequently
May 01 10:58:13 <[Rui]> JaMa: the rest was all ok and it's already commited :)
May 01 10:58:57 <mickeyl> hmm
May 01 10:59:02 <mickeyl> it shouldn't
May 01 10:59:04 <dos1> mrmoku: hmm... do you know, that gsm sleep mode have no influence on resuming from suspend (except buggy firmware or driver)?
May 01 11:01:31 <dos1> that's unsoli.. unsolidified... unsolidicied.... blah, un-you-know-what messages being disabled, which allow FR to sleep without waking up on every network activity
May 01 11:01:35 <dos1> AFAIK
May 01 11:01:36 <mrmoku> dos1: right, I always forget that... it was that you'd miss calls...
May 01 11:01:49 <JaMa> [Rui]: ah sorry I was looking for 1:1 commits and didn't notice/check that all is commited in squashed commit :), ping me with revision you want in OE and I'll bump it and build in feeds
May 01 11:02:20 <[Rui]> JaMa: I'm testing the package that is built so see if things are working ok, then svn copy for a release.
May 01 11:03:06 <dos1> mrmoku: yup. on unfixed device, deep sleep makes calypso reregistering lot of times, and while modem is reregistering you can't get call ;)
May 01 11:04:25 <[Rui]> just now I change the sidetone mux live during a call: *much* better now, the other side said.
May 01 11:04:55 <[Rui]> what should I change now, the contents of alsa-2.6.29 or alsa-default?
May 01 11:05:09 <[Rui]> oh default is a link, sorry...
May 01 11:05:10 <mickeyl> alsa-default should be a link to your current kernel
May 01 11:08:24 <[Rui]> how can one make opkg not overwrite /etc/default/omnewrotate.conf ?
May 01 11:09:41 <[Rui]> Weiss: and, btw, I'm not getting black screens of death when rotating a lot with omnewrotate, recently.
May 01 11:09:53 <JaMa> [Rui]: CONFFILES_${PN} = "${sysconfdir}/default/omnewrotate.conf"
May 01 11:10:21 <[Rui]> Weiss: but still, sometimes the resolution goes lower (maybe to qvga), and I can only change that back by restarting x
May 01 11:10:31 <[Rui]> JaMa: thanks, could you set that in omnewrotate's recipe?
May 01 11:11:08 <[Rui]> please? :)
May 01 11:11:23 <JaMa> sure
May 01 11:12:43 <[Rui]> ok, looks fine...
May 01 11:13:06 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ref56469104d6 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework-2.0.pc.in: libfsoframework: fix dependencies in pkgconfig file
May 01 11:13:07 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r705bf6f19f1c 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atpdp.vala: fsogsmd: atpdp: warn and use default DNS, if not delivered by IPCP
May 01 11:13:15 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: can you try?=
May 01 11:13:57 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: sure
May 01 11:14:16 <mickeyl> some update has crashed my workstation yesterday nite
May 01 11:14:23 <mickeyl> still working on setting all up again
May 01 11:14:24 <mickeyl> *sigh*
May 01 11:14:41 <mickeyl>  /boot has been removed somehow
May 01 11:14:51 <mickeyl> so i took the chance to just install a new distro anyways
May 01 11:15:10 * JaMa updated girlfriend's xubuntu just fine.. but now qt segfault from time to time :/
May 01 11:15:35 <mickeyl> 10.04 looks good for me 
May 01 11:15:40 <mickeyl> did not try any Qt things though
May 01 11:15:54 <JaMa> mostly from facebook@arora browser :)
May 01 11:17:26 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: though here pppd actually receives dns info
May 01 11:17:27 <JaMa> x-www-browser[7105]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfa6ab1c error 4 in libQtNetwork.so.4.6.2[110000+123000]
May 01 11:18:01 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: yes, somehow it gets lost in the process
May 01 11:18:07 <mickeyl> probably some bug in my ppp plugin
May 01 11:18:44 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: i see. Compiling now, will report the result.
May 01 11:19:48 <mrmoku> phone still sleeping :) little Diego not so :/
May 01 11:19:49 <mrmoku> bbl
May 01 11:20:17 <mickeyl> ooooh
May 01 11:20:27 <[Rui]> JaMa: ok, r66 corresponds to 0.5.8
May 01 11:20:31 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: i think i got it
May 01 11:20:42 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: if it still fails for you, then i know 
May 01 11:21:43 <PaulFertser> It still compiles for me :)
May 01 11:21:56 <mrmoku> heh
May 01 11:22:01 <mrmoku> spoke too soon
May 01 11:22:06 <mrmoku> woke up 
May 01 11:22:09 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T11:18:57.020551Z [INFO]  libfsotransport <0710:3>: URC: [ "%CSQ:  7, 99, 0" ]
May 01 11:22:16 <daniele_athome> JaMa, mesa-dri compiles now :)
May 01 11:22:44 <JaMa> daniele_athome: great!
May 01 11:22:54 <JaMa> [Rui]: ok, pushing, thanks!
May 01 11:23:05 <daniele_athome> :)
May 01 11:23:51 <daniele_athome> glxgears running at 3 fps in VGA
May 01 11:23:54 <daniele_athome> and 11 fps in QVGA
May 01 11:25:19 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: (probably unrelated) with my operator pppd always says Could not determine remote IP address: defaulting to 10.64.64.64
May 01 11:25:43 <PaulFertser> (totally unrelated)
May 01 11:31:38 <vanous|away> PaulFertser: i think same 10.64.64.64 here, can only check later
May 01 11:40:05 <mickeyl> mrmoku|away: oooh, a %CSQ
May 01 11:40:06 <mickeyl> let me check
May 01 11:40:34 <mickeyl> hmm
May 01 11:40:36 <mickeyl> strange
May 01 11:41:16 <mickeyl> mrmoku|away: do you have transport logs from when you enter suspend? I'd like to see whether it really sends out the suspend commands
May 01 11:43:55 <[Rui]> JaMa: so how is 2.6.32 going? anything still broken?
May 01 11:46:52 <JaMa> some uSD cards still takes longer to init (nothing changed), wifi works, gps works, leds (maybe just config issue), gsm works, KMS works, qvga (partially works), xrandr (should work - haven't tried)
May 01 11:48:41 <[Rui]> JaMa: cool, seems a lot better than last I heard...
May 01 11:50:00 <JaMa> [Rui]: nothing BIG changed since weiss fixed WSOD (which was BIG and great - I don't need to switch kernel for longer trip where is suspend handy)
May 01 11:50:39 <JaMa> [Rui]: but mrmoku and vanous|away reported that they have WSODs again with latest build of 2.6.32.12 :/
May 01 11:51:09 <JaMa> lunch..
May 01 11:53:05 <Heinervdm> [Rui]: "OpenMoko 0.5.8 is out!" <- nice Title ;)
May 01 11:58:57 <JaMa> :)
May 01 12:01:19 <JaMa> did someone notice some error about SHR patchwork?
May 01 12:01:33 <JaMa> "[Shr-Devel] [PATCH] qgpslog: update to 0.2.1" is missing :/
May 01 12:02:34 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2d8bfd0f82b8 10/fsogsmd/src/ppp/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: ppp plugin: convert addresses to strings to match what the receiver expects
May 01 12:03:32 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: ^^
May 01 12:04:54 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: ok, big thanks :) I'm just done recompiling, so it'll take a little longer to test.
May 01 12:05:32 <[Rui]> Heinervdm: huh?
May 01 12:06:41 <JaMa> PaulFertser: are you using also older gta01 in distcc?
May 01 12:06:52 <JaMa> PaulFertser: or building on single device?
May 01 12:06:53 <[Rui]> Heinervdm: oh m y...
May 01 12:07:28 <PaulFertser> JaMa: i'm building on gta02 + crosscompiler on host.
May 01 12:07:42 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03daniele.athome 07libframeworkd-glib * r322ad983ee81 10/src/ (frameworkd-glib-dbus.c frameworkd-glib-dbus.h): 
May 01 12:07:42 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: Added support for org.freesmartphone.Unavailable error
May 01 12:07:42 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: Added some constants for future org.freesmartphone errors
May 01 12:07:42 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Daniele Ricci <daniele.athome@gmail.com>
May 01 12:08:57 <Heinervdm> [Rui]: makes the Thread more interesting ;)
May 01 12:09:54 <[Rui]> Heinervdm: yeah :D
May 01 12:10:19 <[Rui]> JaMa: someone had a bad experience with 2.6.32 recently on shr-devel... neo?
May 01 12:13:48 <JaMa> "[Shr-Devel] Question regarding Kernel 2.6.32.12" ? no idea about it, as I'm booting from uSD and it works
May 01 12:14:51 <daniele_athome> JaMa, how can I build the most recent revision of libframeworkd-glib with bitbake?
May 01 12:15:00 <daniele_athome> SRCREV for it is ${AUTOREV}, what's that?
May 01 12:18:20 <dos1> daniele_athome: if SRCREV is AUTOREV, then it's always building most recent revision
May 01 12:18:28 <daniele_athome> dos1, oh well :)
May 01 12:18:31 <dos1> daniele_athome: so just "bitbake libframeworkd-glib" ;)
May 01 12:18:34 <daniele_athome> :)
May 01 12:24:41 <daniele_athome> dos1, why if I do -c build it doesn't build?
May 01 12:24:56 <daniele_athome> if I use no arguments, it will do distribute_sources to every package
May 01 12:25:06 <daniele_athome> taking too much hd space
May 01 12:25:39 <mrmoku> mickeyl: yeah, have them... moment
May 01 12:26:06 <dos1> mrmoku: hmm... don't you think we should change default log level of fsodeviced from DEBUG to INFO, and of fsogsmd from INFO to DEBUG?
May 01 12:27:03 <dos1> mickeyl: 2010-05-01T12:14:18.260308Z [INFO]  Kernel26AggregatePowerSupply </sys/class/power_supply>: Got power status change notification for $name: $status
May 01 12:27:09 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: looks like it's still not fixed...
May 01 12:27:13 <dos1> $name: $status? ;)
May 01 12:27:25 <PaulFertser> bbiab
May 01 12:29:01 <dos1> daniele_athome: dunno, i know little about bitbake - only basics which allow me to build something and write some basic recipes ;)
May 01 12:29:21 <daniele_athome> dos1, nothing... still taking old revs
May 01 12:29:22 <daniele_athome> :(
May 01 12:31:52 <JaMa> daniele_athome: do you have oe.dev HEAD?
May 01 12:32:02 <daniele_athome> JaMa, using shr makefile
May 01 12:32:07 <daniele_athome> so I suppose yes
May 01 12:32:17 <JaMa> can you check that there is no SRCREV_pn-libframeworkd-glib somewhere?
May 01 12:32:30 <daniele_athome> NOTE: package libframeworkd-glib-1_0.0.1+gitr11+2aa8e215e8f290ee8fb8346031904a8d7ef64795-r0: task do_clean: Started
May 01 12:32:33 <JaMa> ie in your local.conf
May 01 12:32:39 <daniele_athome> JaMa, already did it
May 01 12:32:42 <daniele_athome> only the AUTOREV line
May 01 12:32:50 <JaMa> an that is in recipe?
May 01 12:32:53 <JaMa> or include?
May 01 12:33:09 <mrmoku> mickeyl: http://shr.pastebin.com/akBAbvqv
May 01 12:33:11 <daniele_athome> none
May 01 12:33:16 <mrmoku> mickeyl: that is one suspend/resume cycle
May 01 12:33:32 <daniele_athome> never touched srcrevs
May 01 12:33:34 <mrmoku> dos1: fsodeviced is on debug?
May 01 12:33:41 <JaMa> daniele_athome: pastebin your local.conf please
May 01 12:33:44 <dos1> mrmoku: looks like
May 01 12:34:03 <mrmoku> dos1: indeed... we should just change that to INFO then
May 01 12:34:35 <daniele_athome> JaMa, I assure you is the default one, but as you wish: http://pastebin.com/aZWLntuY
May 01 12:34:49 <daniele_athome> apart perhaps for the locale generation line
May 01 12:35:38 <mrmoku> dos1: I could change that together with the idle timeouts ;)
May 01 12:36:00 <dos1> mrmoku: i like idle timeouts :P
May 01 12:36:13 <mrmoku> I know :P
May 01 12:36:27 <JaMa> daniele_athome: so where do you have AUTOREV line?
May 01 12:36:41 <daniele_athome> conf/distro/include/fso-autorev.inc
May 01 12:36:44 <daniele_athome> where they should be
May 01 12:36:58 <daniele_athome> JaMa, never mind, i'm modifying that file to force revision
May 01 12:36:59 <JaMa> daniele_athome: and do you include /fso-autorev.inc somewhere?
May 01 12:37:01 <daniele_athome> then I will revert it
May 01 12:37:12 <daniele_athome> JaMa, no... I didn't modify bitbake conf
May 01 12:37:14 <daniele_athome> in any way
May 01 12:37:25 <JaMa> daniele_athome: because we include only shr-autorev.inc from shr.conf
May 01 12:37:41 <dos1> TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Congratulations Madam, it's a channel! ;DDD
May 01 12:37:57 <JaMa> daniele_athome: you can add include for fso-autorev.inc if you want in local.conf
May 01 12:38:07 <daniele_athome> JaMa, but how did it worked until now?
May 01 12:38:29 <JaMa> daniele_athome: or copy that AUTOREV line from fso-autorev.inc to your local.conf (if you want only that package)
May 01 12:38:38 <daniele_athome> ok
May 01 12:38:45 <JaMa> daniele_athome: it's using "sane SRCREV" from recipe
May 01 12:39:02 <dos1> mrmoku: btw, won't fsogsmd at DEBUG be quite useful ATM?
May 01 12:39:06 <JaMa> daniele_athome: before it was in sane-srcrevs.inc which is included by default
May 01 12:39:10 <daniele_athome> JaMa, can't find with grep the revision used by bitbake
May 01 12:39:20 <daniele_athome> that's weird
May 01 12:39:36 <JaMa> daniele_athome: open recipe, check "^SRCREV ="
May 01 12:40:06 <daniele_athome> here it is
May 01 12:40:14 <daniele_athome> I was looking in the configuration
May 01 12:40:18 <daniele_athome> but not in the recipes :|
May 01 12:40:38 <JaMa> new order is in recipe not config
May 01 12:40:49 <daniele_athome> good :) thanks JaMa 
May 01 12:40:54 <daniele_athome> building with autorev
May 01 12:41:05 <daniele_athome> in local.conf
May 01 12:41:17 <JaMa> daniele_athome: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/log/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc :)
May 01 12:41:18 <dos1> mickeyl: what's SSN?
May 01 12:41:25 <mrmoku> dos1: mostly it is the log of libfsotransport. fsogsmd.log itself is not that interesting. And libfsotransport is _very_ verbose :P
May 01 12:41:40 <dos1> mickeyl: s/SSN/% CSSN/
May 01 12:41:54 <dos1> mrmoku: hmm... probably right ;)
May 01 12:45:43 <JaMa> someone with access to patchwork logs?
May 01 12:48:29 <mrmoku> JaMa: logs?
May 01 12:50:16 <JaMa> "[Shr-Devel] [PATCH] qgpslog: update to 0.2.1" is missing :/
May 01 12:50:22 <JaMa> mrmoku: ^^
May 01 12:50:47 <JaMa> it's >2 hours so normally it whould show there already
May 01 12:51:43 <daniele_athome> bye
May 01 12:55:53 <mrmoku> JaMa: no idea
May 01 13:02:12 <dos1> mrmoku: where is libfsotransport log located?
May 01 13:03:00 <mrmoku> dos1: by default there is none
May 01 13:03:13 <dos1> mrmoku: so where is config located? ;D
May 01 13:03:14 <mrmoku> you have to add a new section [libfsotransport] to fsogsmd.conf
May 01 13:03:38 <mrmoku> usual log_to, log_destination, log_level thing
May 01 13:03:48 <mrmoku> or was it log_file?
May 01 13:03:50 <mrmoku> however :P
May 01 13:04:05 <mrmoku> heh, fun if the IdleScreen suddenly pops up on your desktop :P
May 01 13:04:10 <dos1> log_destination ;)
May 01 13:04:14 <mrmoku> ok
May 01 13:05:15 <dos1> mrmoku: do you remember how to easly configure quick config under power button?
May 01 13:06:37 <dos1> i still have illume syscon here
May 01 13:06:56 <dos1> (btw... ~2 weeks ago my image became 1 year old ;D)
May 01 13:09:15 <mrmoku> :)
May 01 13:09:24 <mrmoku> dos1: it is just a dbus call
May 01 13:09:34 <dos1> mrmoku: nvm, already did:)
May 01 13:09:36 <mrmoku> dos1: bind that to the power key
May 01 13:09:37 <mrmoku> :P
May 01 13:09:48 <dos1> phoneui-quick-settings :D
May 01 13:09:57 <mrmoku> duhh... whre is tasn?
May 01 13:10:24 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: ping
May 01 13:10:36 <Heinervdm> pong
May 01 13:10:37 <dos1> hmmm
May 01 13:10:46 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: want to start to develop on your desktop?
May 01 13:10:52 <dos1> why is quick-settings window white? shouldn't it be theme dependent?
May 01 13:11:19 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: not really, then i need newer E on my desktop ;)
May 01 13:11:26 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: ahh.. ok :P
May 01 13:12:09 * mrmoku needs somebody to try his script ;)
May 01 13:15:57 <dos1> mrmoku: have you tried "smooth = down" in fsodeviced display config? :D
May 01 13:16:13 <mrmoku> dos1: no, what does it do?
May 01 13:16:23 <dos1> mrmoku: backlight dimming is smooth ;)
May 01 13:16:34 <mrmoku> ahh, hehe
May 01 13:16:48 <mrmoku> we probably want that as default then, if it has no drawback :)
May 01 13:17:16 <dos1> well, i remember backlight dimming was quite smooth with 2.6.24 by default, without any software solutions
May 01 13:17:25 <dos1> but 2.6.28 changed that, dunno why
May 01 13:19:05 <dos1> but i haven't seen any drawbacks with fsodeviced implementation ;)
May 01 13:19:16 <dos1> mrmoku: where is SHR config for fsodeviced stored?
May 01 13:19:18 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: are you sure... it is real fun :P
May 01 13:19:39 <mrmoku> dos1: there is no shr specific one
May 01 13:19:45 <mrmoku> dos1: we use the default one
May 01 13:19:56 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: it's to much work :)
May 01 13:20:08 <dos1> mrmoku: so it's ok to commit those changes directly into fso config?
May 01 13:20:09 <mrmoku> dos1: if mickeyl is ok with it, just commit to cornucopia
May 01 13:20:13 <mrmoku> yep
May 01 13:20:26 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: you actually _use_ e on your desktop?
May 01 13:20:56 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: no, and i have only the efl packages for debian installed
May 01 13:21:05 <Heinervdm> and these are really old
May 01 13:21:09 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: or which part is lots of work?
May 01 13:21:24 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: anyway will search another victim then ;)
May 01 13:21:29 <Heinervdm> compiling efl for my desktop
May 01 13:21:47 <mrmoku> get_e.sh does all that for you... apart from elementary
May 01 13:23:40 <mickeyl> hmm
May 01 13:23:50 <mickeyl> IIRC gta02 supports smooth backlight dimming on hardware level
May 01 13:23:53 <mickeyl> is that broken?
May 01 13:24:08 <mickeyl> or did someone disable it on hardware level?
May 01 13:24:38 <dos1> mickeyl: looks like it has been disabled between 2.6.24 and 2.6.28 kernels
May 01 13:24:49 <mickeyl> interesting
May 01 13:24:55 <mickeyl> i didn't know that it could be disabled at all
May 01 13:25:00 <mickeyl> my vote would be to reenable it
May 01 13:25:06 <dos1> or at least it was made a lot faster
May 01 13:25:13 <pespin> mrmoku, you may like the script I use to compile E, which is get_e.sh with some modifications (like distcc support and more options)
May 01 13:25:16 <pespin> mrmoku, http://espeweb.no-ip.com/misc/pespin/scripts/get_e3.sh
May 01 13:25:24 <mickeyl> since doing it in fsodeviced will be more CPU intensive than doing it in hardware
May 01 13:25:32 <mrmoku> pespin: let me check
May 01 13:25:35 <dos1> mickeyl: yup
May 01 13:25:52 <dos1> mickeyl: are you ok with changing default log_level for fsodeviced on openmoko_gta to INFO?
May 01 13:26:00 <spaetz> the reasy script  is nice for e17
May 01 13:26:43 <mrmoku> well... I need somebody to test build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/setup-shr-dev-env.sh :)
May 01 13:26:56 <mickeyl> dos1: what is it atm?
May 01 13:26:57 <mrmoku> spaetz, pespin: any volunteer :P
May 01 13:27:02 <dos1> mickeyl: DEBUG
May 01 13:27:11 <mickeyl> dos1: oh, feel free to change that, yeah
May 01 13:27:30 <dos1> done ;)
May 01 13:27:32 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07cornucopia * rc38d0fab9dcf 10/fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/fsodeviced.conf: fsodeviced: conf: set log level to INFO for openmoko_gta devices
May 01 13:28:04 <pespin> mrmoku, for doing what? :P
May 01 13:28:04 <thrashold> What is the overhead of using Vala (vs. plain C, if I'm not going to use gobject)? If fsousaged is taking: RES 2768, SHR:2744, does this mean that it is using 28 bytes of memory? (which seems unlikely)
May 01 13:28:57 <pespin> thrashold, there's a googlecode project which has benchmarks about Vala vs C vs c++, but dont' remember its name :S
May 01 13:28:59 <mrmoku> pespin: install, develop and debug phoneuid on your desktop
May 01 13:29:35 <thrashold> pespin: I don't want a benchmark, I'm caring about memory usage. Nobody cares about CPU usage. I'm just in doubt whether I should use C or Vala for a project
May 01 13:29:36 <mrmoku> pespin: you might use that for your bluetooth thing too :P
May 01 13:29:36 <pespin> that means installing frameworkd too, isn't?
May 01 13:29:40 <mrmoku> pespin: no
May 01 13:29:52 <mrmoku> pespin: that's the fun thing :)
May 01 13:30:08 <pespin> thrashold, I think there's memory info on the benchmarks too :P
May 01 13:30:34 <mickeyl> thrashold: overhead will be hardly measurable. handwritten C may be slightly faster due to the way the generated code works, but really neglectible
May 01 13:30:37 <thrashold> pespin: Yeah, but my assumption would be that almost all overhead will be the gobject/glib libraries which are shared and already in memory
May 01 13:30:43 <pespin> mrmoku, ok, tell me what to do :)
May 01 13:30:49 <mrmoku> pespin: maybe I should just publish the blog... moment
May 01 13:30:58 <thrashold> So, no noticable memory overhead whatsoever
May 01 13:31:01 <thrashold> I just want to be sure
May 01 13:31:04 <mickeyl> no
May 01 13:31:16 <mickeyl> goject itself takes quite a bit of memory due to the object abstraction
May 01 13:31:24 <mrmoku> pespin: http://blog.shr-project.org/
May 01 13:31:37 <thrashold> mickeyl: It allocates some memory for each registered type?
May 01 13:31:43 <mickeyl> yeah
May 01 13:31:53 <mickeyl> tbh, i don't know much about its innards though :)
May 01 13:32:02 <mickeyl> it has recently been optimized
May 01 13:32:08 <mickeyl> in 2.24 or so
May 01 13:32:44 <pespin> mrmoku, ok, will try later, as now I have to do some work for univ ;)
May 01 13:32:46 <mrmoku> pespin: and feel free to add a comment for get_e3.sh if you care :)
May 01 13:33:23 <pespin> sure, I may add phoneuid to autocheck packages in there
May 01 13:35:53 <JaMa> mickeyl: I'm cleaning recipes in freesmartphone dir a bit, and noticed that there is fso-raw rewrite in vala, is it full replacement?
May 01 13:36:30 <mickeyl> JaMa: i'm not sure, since i didn't write the original. 
May 01 13:36:45 <mickeyl> someone who is using it should comapre
May 01 13:36:46 <mrmoku> mickeyl: http://blog.shr-project.org/ ... dbus-daemon-proxy rocks :D
May 01 13:36:48 <mickeyl> compare, actually
May 01 13:36:55 <mickeyl> mrmoku: awesome, will read
May 01 13:36:59 <mickeyl> didn't have a chance to try ye
May 01 13:37:00 <mickeyl> t
May 01 13:37:15 <JaMa> mickeyl: ok, I'll try
May 01 13:37:39 <mickeyl> thaqnks
May 01 13:38:13 <mrmoku> mickeyl: did you get the pastebin with suspend/resume log?
May 01 13:40:25 <mickeyl> mrmoku: missed that
May 01 13:40:28 <mickeyl> let me scroll up
May 01 13:40:30 <mrmoku> http://shr.pastebin.com/akBAbvqv
May 01 13:40:41 <mickeyl> thanx
May 01 13:41:29 <mickeyl> hmm, looks good
May 01 13:41:33 <mickeyl> strange
May 01 13:41:46 <mickeyl> hmm
May 01 13:41:54 <mickeyl> can you tell me where the actual suspend and resume happens?
May 01 13:41:59 <mickeyl> (timestamp)
May 01 13:42:59 <mrmoku> mickeyl: from fsogsmd.log?
May 01 13:43:42 <mrmoku> or dmesg?
May 01 13:44:25 <mickeyl> fsousaged will tell
May 01 13:44:47 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T12:28:17.069852Z [INFO]  TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Modem Status changed to FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_SUSPENDING
May 01 13:44:50 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T12:28:17.078698Z [INFO]  TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Modem Status changed to FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_SUSPENDED
May 01 13:44:53 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T12:28:17.079926Z [INFO]  DBusServiceDevice <>: Modem suspended successfully
May 01 13:44:56 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T12:28:25.550612Z [INFO]  TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Modem Status changed to FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_RESUMING
May 01 13:44:59 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T12:28:25.559014Z [INFO]  TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Modem Status changed to FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_ALIVE_REGISTERED
May 01 13:45:02 <mrmoku> that is fsogsmd
May 01 13:45:03 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T12:28:17.100792Z [INFO]  UsageController <9 R>: >>>>>>> KERNEL SUSPEND
May 01 13:45:06 <mrmoku> 2010-05-01T12:28:25.448301Z [INFO]  UsageController <9 R>: <<<<<<< KERNEL RESUME
May 01 13:45:50 <mrmoku> ohh... nice fsousaged.log has the resume reason nicely there :-)
May 01 13:46:20 <mickeyl> :)
May 01 13:47:04 <mrmoku> mickeyl: my phone had fun last night :P
May 01 13:47:07 <mrmoku> http://shr.pastebin.com/9jXAzCU0
May 01 13:48:00 <mickeyl> wow
May 01 13:48:26 <mickeyl> and it was always %CSQ waking up?
May 01 13:48:33 <mrmoku> dunno
May 01 13:48:56 <mickeyl> hi nomeata 
May 01 13:48:56 <mrmoku> can try to find out with the transport log... would be some work though
May 01 13:48:58 <mickeyl> long time no see
May 01 13:49:03 <mickeyl> mrmoku: nah, don't bother
May 01 13:49:03 <nomeata> mickeyl: hi
May 01 13:49:08 <mrmoku> k :)
May 01 13:49:17 <nomeata> mickeyl: well, me and IRC, we have a very irregular relationship
May 01 13:49:35 <mickeyl> hehe, k
May 01 13:50:22 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r07b0ea3e42cd 10/tools/mdbus2/configure.ac: mdbus2: bail out, if readline is missing
May 01 13:50:23 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r31f0a35b8822 10/tools/mterm2/configure.ac: mterm2: bail out, if readline is missing
May 01 13:52:00 <Q-Master> seems /me needs reinstalling shr completely.
May 01 13:54:02 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r76d57df6e4f0 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/process.vala: libfsobasics: process.vala: fix reporting spawn error
May 01 13:55:14 <mickeyl> nomeata: are you still working/interested on/in fso on debian? fso2 makes quite amazing progress and I wonder whether all the new C-goodies are packaged?
May 01 13:56:04 <nomeata> mickeyl: I basically stopped working with the FreeRunner for the time beeing, and try to “just use” it without much fiddling (based on SHR). But there are still other active Debian people working on it.
May 01 13:56:23 <mickeyl> ah, i see
May 01 13:56:52 <nomeata> mickeyl: you could ask on pkg-fso-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org
May 01 13:57:04 <mickeyl> worth a try, ok
May 01 14:04:08 <mickeyl> mrmoku: hmm, d'oh
May 01 14:05:07 <Wonka> my tries at "just using" are spoiled by segfaulting e-wm atm...
May 01 14:05:56 <mrmoku> mickeyl: that sounds good :)
May 01 14:06:21 <mickeyl> haha, oh well
May 01 14:06:41 <mickeyl> for some reason Suspend() and Resume() are happening in the background
May 01 14:06:50 <mickeyl> which should not happen
May 01 14:07:03 <mickeyl> which means the system may go to suspend before the commands have actually been processed
May 01 14:07:07 <mickeyl> which would explain your output
May 01 14:07:10 <mickeyl> and waking up
May 01 14:07:41 <mrmoku> hmm
May 01 14:07:52 <mrmoku> sounds less good :/
May 01 14:07:56 <mickeyl> indeed
May 01 14:08:03 <mickeyl> i'm almost sure that was working
May 01 14:08:13 <mickeyl> have to check the whole resource path again
May 01 14:08:24 <dos1> well, here everything works correctly
May 01 14:12:39 <Kensan> mickeyl: what version of valac is required for building fso2?
May 01 14:13:45 * mickeyl recommends http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/vala-0.8.0.95-e7a7.tar.bz2
May 01 14:14:18 <mickeyl> unfortunately we love to use fixes not yet in upstream...
May 01 14:17:21 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: http://paste.debian.net/71519/
May 01 14:18:20 <mickeyl> which version is that?
May 01 14:18:23 <mickeyl> (git hash)
May 01 14:18:32 <Kensan> mickeyl: so using the repos on git.freesmartphone.org is even better?
May 01 14:19:00 <mickeyl> Kensan: the vala tarballs are best, otherwise you have a bootstrap issue
May 01 14:19:09 <mickeyl> i.e. you would need a recent vala installed to be able to compile our vala
May 01 14:19:18 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: i think 2d8bfd0f82b862c51b6479bd4a6a6834193e529e
May 01 14:19:19 <mickeyl> the tarballs are pregenerated C
May 01 14:19:31 <Kensan> okay then
May 01 14:19:34 <Kensan> thanks
May 01 14:19:46 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: oh
May 01 14:20:22 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: the log certainly differs from the one made before, i hope that's indeed this version
May 01 14:21:16 <mickeyl> yeah, that's correct
May 01 14:21:18 <mickeyl> it shows IPCP: Not enough information for default route
May 01 14:21:20 <mickeyl> which is new
May 01 14:21:37 <mickeyl> ok, i have a reasonable working environment again
May 01 14:21:39 <mickeyl> i'll tet
May 01 14:21:40 <mickeyl> test
May 01 14:22:41 <mickeyl> hmm, darn
May 01 14:22:46 <mickeyl> this card is invalid
May 01 14:22:54 <mickeyl>     'registration': 'denied',
May 01 14:26:13 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0b60caac7247 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atunsolicited.vala: fsogsmd: atunsolicited: silence warnings for +CGEV and NO CARRIER URCs
May 01 14:53:43 <mickeyl> hmm, ok
May 01 14:53:48 <mickeyl> both of my eplus cards are now disabled
May 01 14:53:54 <mickeyl> oh well
May 01 14:55:30 <soltys> how to prevent screen to lock on idle ?
May 01 14:55:44 <mrmoku> ~lart eplus
May 01 14:55:44 * infobot throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at eplus
May 01 14:56:59 <mickeyl> due to that fun 12-month autoreactivation i cancelled the contract a couple of months ago
May 01 14:57:03 <mickeyl> seems now it's really done
May 01 14:57:05 <mickeyl> phew
May 01 14:57:09 * mickeyl tries with an Alice card
May 01 15:03:01 <mickeyl> ok, now lets fix pppd for good
May 01 15:05:40 <PaulFertser> Probably it'd be nice to also implement PDP.GetContextStatus if it's not too time-consuming.
May 01 15:05:44 <PaulFertser> ;)
May 01 15:06:20 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4c5494bb8be0 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atmediators.vala: fsogsmd: atmediators: don't override display name with an empty string
May 01 15:06:42 <mickeyl> that was pending a bug in vala
May 01 15:06:51 <mickeyl> which is now fixed, but not released
May 01 15:06:55 <mickeyl> so i will have to update our snapshot
May 01 15:07:01 <mickeyl> which i only do after extensive testing
May 01 15:07:06 <mickeyl> so that will take a couple of days
May 01 15:16:25 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: that == inability to use gprs?
May 01 15:19:38 <mickeyl> no
May 01 15:19:42 <mickeyl> just that request is missing
May 01 15:19:52 <mickeyl> s/request/dbus method/
May 01 15:19:54 <infobot> mickeyl meant: just that dbus method is missing
May 01 15:19:54 <apt> mickeyl meant: just that dbus method is missing
May 01 15:20:09 <mickeyl> you will still get notifications
May 01 15:21:10 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r50810bbbf1fe 10/fsogsmd/src/ppp/plugin.vala: 
May 01 15:21:10 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: Revert "fsogsmd: ppp plugin: convert addresses to strings to match what the receiver expects"
May 01 15:21:10 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: This reverts commit 2d8bfd0f82b862c51b6479bd4a6a6834193e529e.
May 01 15:21:10 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r96b5e970da2c 10/fsogsmd/src/ppp/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: ppp/plugin: add error checking
May 01 15:21:11 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r014ec2637f00 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atpdp.vala: fsogsmd: atpdp: fix assumptions about what's in the external status report
May 01 15:28:44 <mickeyl> 2010-05-01T15:28:17.521882Z [INFO]  libfsotransport <0710:3>: URC: [ "+CTZV: 128" ]
May 01 15:28:46 <mickeyl> wooooooooot!
May 01 15:28:52 * mickeyl got his first timezone report ever in germany
May 01 15:28:58 <mickeyl> ~praise O2
May 01 15:28:59 <infobot> All hail O2!
May 01 15:29:53 <mrmoku> :)
May 01 15:32:21 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: ppp fixed
May 01 15:32:55 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: amazing :) cool job :) /me recompiles
May 01 15:33:14 <mickeyl> i was too tired otherwise i would have seen it before
May 01 15:33:24 <mickeyl> was treating uints as strings
May 01 15:33:29 <mickeyl> which seldomly is a good idea
May 01 15:33:40 <mickeyl> ~lart static typing ;)
May 01 15:33:40 * infobot slaps static typing ;) upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
May 01 15:34:09 <mickeyl> hmm, seems with have a little race with infobot and apt
May 01 15:35:13 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: btw., it was only broken on systems using ppp. recently i've been using the dream a lot which is not using ppp, so i missed that
May 01 15:36:08 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: i see. Though you must admit your largest userbase still uses an inferiour hardware ;)
May 01 15:36:59 <mickeyl> full ACK
May 01 15:37:14 <mickeyl> that's why -- although I'm almost no longer interested in it -- am doing all that work for the Calypso
May 01 15:38:01 <chomwitt_> in sim manager does user interface support multiple selection of contacts ?
May 01 15:38:24 <Heinervdm> no
May 01 15:38:39 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: it still helps you to get a stable and sane framework for handling other modems that use at-commands, not all of them are exactly bugfree.
May 01 15:39:45 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: right
May 01 15:40:09 <mrmoku> chomwitt_: one or all for now
May 01 15:41:07 <chomwitt_> mrmoku: can i delete all ?
May 01 15:42:23 <mrmoku> chomwitt_: hmm... no :/
May 01 15:43:58 <mickeyl> ok, when i have this alice sim in now, i might as well take a quick look at cell broadcasts
May 01 15:44:08 <chomwitt_> mrmoku: so i guess the same hold for contacs.
May 01 15:44:14 <mickeyl> btw., did anyone ever confirm that %CBHZ=1 has a negative effect on voice quality?
May 01 15:44:16 <chomwitt_> mrmoku: contacts
May 01 15:44:34 <mrmoku> chomwitt_: yep... is in the list of many things TODO
May 01 15:45:20 <lindi-> mickeyl: I did
May 01 15:45:23 <lindi-> mickeyl: it's in the bug tracker.
May 01 15:46:00 <mickeyl> ok
May 01 15:46:07 <mickeyl> one of the many misteries w/ calypso
May 01 16:07:56 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0bc17951cddf 10/fsogsmd/tests/ (.gitignore Makefile.am testcb.vala): fsogsmd: add skeleton for cell broadcast tests
May 01 16:31:39 <lamikr> Hi, installed shr on just for a first time by flashing it to new GTA02A7++
May 01 16:31:48 <lamikr> Na
May 01 16:31:52 <lamikr> a d
May 01 16:31:53 <lamikr> a d
May 01 16:32:41 <lamikr> and have some problems. 
May 01 16:33:27 <lamikr> When starting it, I am seeing some popup dialog with error message: "Your display is not in 24/32 bit display mode, this is required to be your default settings for the compositor to work proberly."
May 01 16:33:58 <lamikr> (Not seeing all words because text in dialog is wider than the screen)
May 01 16:34:04 <lamikr> Is this normal?
May 01 16:35:40 <lamikr> I flashed http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 and http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin and still using original uBoot that comes with the gta....
May 01 16:36:00 <lamikr> (Should I install newer uBoot or qi bootloader?)
May 01 16:45:24 <dos1> TAsn has been changed into laptop!
May 01 16:46:24 <thrashold> Is this possible?
May 01 16:46:42 <dos1> looks like ;o
May 01 16:46:53 <dos1> btw, if you have facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/pages/SHR/106782922698111 ;D
May 01 16:48:21 <TAsn-Laptop> ffs
May 01 16:48:24 <TAsn-Laptop> stop isp
May 01 16:48:30 <TAsn-Laptop> stupid*
May 01 16:48:43 <TAsn-Laptop> my home internet doesn't work
May 01 16:48:58 <TAsn-Laptop> I have to use wifi+laptop+neighboors :P
May 01 16:50:26 <dos1> hehe ;)
May 01 16:51:52 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: yo, tested gprs, and it works flawlessly as before. Thanks a lot! :D
May 01 16:54:36 <mickeyl> yay
May 01 16:54:38 <mickeyl> np 
May 01 16:56:38 <dos1> mickeyl: you have to change topic on #freesmartphone.org
May 01 16:56:47 <dos1> and probably also some other links
May 01 16:56:56 <dos1> http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Donate does not work anymore
May 01 16:56:59 <dos1> http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Donate does
May 01 16:57:12 <TAsn-Laptop> JaMa, fixed the issue with shr_elm_softkey not responding?
May 01 16:57:16 <TAsn-Laptop> it sounds like an e issues.
May 01 16:57:18 <TAsn-Laptop> -s
May 01 16:58:51 <mickeyl> dos1: thanks
May 01 17:17:17 <[Rui]> PaulFertser: mickeyl: there's already a fix in repo for gprs? :)
May 01 17:17:32 <mickeyl> yes
May 01 17:17:35 <[Rui]> I made the mistake of upgrading, yesterday... and today when I wanted to use it, I got shame on me :)
May 01 17:17:50 <mickeyl> feed i don't know
May 01 17:17:54 <mickeyl> git repository, yes
May 01 17:18:24 <[Rui]> mickeyl: ok, cool enough :)
May 01 17:39:36 <PaulFertser> [Rui]: here it could be more funny, i'd be like: "wait a minute, i'll just checkout an earlier revision and recompile, what's the problem" :)
May 01 17:39:52 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: hey :) good morning, Doc :)
May 01 17:41:35 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: hi!
May 01 17:49:52 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: i wonder if clean cornucopia build will work all right because if i just do "make" in the toplevel dir, it won't do "make install" for the libraries and thus dependencies for the daemons wouldn't be satisfied. I'm not sure if that's a real problem or not though, just a sidenote thought. 
May 01 17:57:17 <mickeyl> PaulFertser: it's not really made for top-level install
May 01 17:57:26 <mickeyl> the projects are merely stand-alone
May 01 17:57:35 <mickeyl> and the Makefile is more of a convenience for myself
May 01 17:57:45 <mickeyl> it would probably not hurt to enhance it for real operation
May 01 17:57:53 <mickeyl> but i have little experience with recursive automake
May 01 17:57:58 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: of course, i understand that. It's just the presence of a makefile _might_ be a bit misleading
May 01 17:57:59 <mickeyl> (that is: none ;)
May 01 17:58:27 <PaulFertser> Ok, np, just so you're aware, probably a note in README will suffice to warn unexperienced devs :)
May 01 17:58:44 <mickeyl> true
May 01 17:58:56 <mickeyl> (of course I would appreciate patches to make it a full toplevel build)
May 01 18:01:20 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r982c791c00eb 10/README: README: add note about the top-level Makefile
May 01 18:01:24 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: i have no idea how to handle this conceptually because if you want it to only make, it's impossible (due to libs not being installed). Probably worth separating to "make libs", "make libs_install", "make daemons", "make daemons_install" but afair there're more interdependencies.
May 01 18:05:38 <alexxy> mrmoku|away: JaMa: seems recieving sms stopped working
May 01 18:21:29 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf80f875fa0b9 10/fsogsmd/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: make decoding of cell broadcast messages pass unit tests
May 01 18:27:58 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rc789cc2113fd 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): org.freesmartphone.GSM.CB: change API for signal IncomingCellBroadcast
May 01 18:36:27 <GarthPS> guys can we write an sms with  opimd-cli or is it with an other cli tool?
May 01 18:39:28 <mickeyl> If you know the phone number, SMS is a one-liner with mdbus2
May 01 18:39:50 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * rddf7a0d173f2 10/palmpre/ (66 files in 26 dirs): 
May 01 18:39:51 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: palmpre: remove hidduin, tslib-hid, libhid-stub and webos-libs
May 01 18:39:51 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: We don't need them anymore cause we now can use the touchscreen in the palmpre
May 01 18:39:51 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: directly as some people find out how the data from it looks like.
May 01 18:47:09 <[Rui]> ah what a nice warm and fuzzy feeling to see omnewrotate being upgraded from opkg update ;)
May 01 18:47:24 <JaMa> dos1: hah, joined that FB thing :)
May 01 18:48:28 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2367694c810b 10/fsogsmd/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: implement signal org.freesmartphone.GSM.CB.IncomingCellBroadcast()
May 01 18:48:33 <mickeyl> [Rui]: :)
May 01 18:48:58 <[Rui]> mickeyl: hey, I could only hope the repo already had your fix (sadly it doesn't yet).
May 01 18:49:17 * JaMa feels like bumping cornucopia again today is good thing ;)
May 01 18:49:26 * mickeyl thinks so as well
May 01 18:49:39 <[Rui]> Jama: thanks! :) * resolve_conffiles: Existing conffile /etc/default/omnewrotate.conf (...)  /etc/default/omnewrotate.conf-opkg.
May 01 18:49:46 <mickeyl> give m10 more minutes to break everything, then i'm done for today ;)
May 01 18:49:53 <JaMa> mickeyl: btw: there was still inherit autotools_stage in cornucopia.inc
May 01 18:50:00 <[Rui]> what's cornucopia?
May 01 18:50:01 <mickeyl> JaMa: oops
May 01 18:50:03 <JaMa> mickeyl: I guess it's unwanted left-over, right?
May 01 18:50:07 <mickeyl> [Rui]: just some random crap
May 01 18:50:10 <mickeyl> JaMa: yep
May 01 18:50:20 <JaMa> mickeyl: ok, changed that with my small cleanup :)
May 01 18:50:24 <mickeyl> thanks
May 01 18:50:28 <mickeyl> no, i'm done for today
May 01 18:50:33 <mickeyl> feel free to bump it now
May 01 18:50:43 <mickeyl> specs and libfso-glib as well, please
May 01 18:50:50 <mickeyl> ah, let me adjust configure.ac in both
May 01 18:50:51 <JaMa> mickeyl: ok, will build and after small test push
May 01 18:50:55 <JaMa> ok
May 01 18:51:09 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r623efbb84b23 10/configure.ac: bump version
May 01 18:51:29 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r732c778418fc 10/configure.ac: bump dependency
May 01 18:51:58 <GarthPS> mickey: hi, oh yeah i will look for it
May 01 18:54:09 <[Rui]> mickeyl: ah, so it's the codename of the vala reimplementation... please pardon my ignorance!
May 01 18:55:00 <[Rui]> there's a bug in the README file, points the link towards www when it should point towards wiki
May 01 18:55:19 <mickeyl> GarthPS: something along
May 01 18:55:21 <mickeyl> mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.SendTextMessage +12345678 "Yo Joe, wanna go to Chilly Burger tonite?" false
May 01 18:55:39 <mickeyl> [Rui]: *nod*
May 01 18:56:29 <JaMa> alexxy: probably all SMS slots on SIM full, delete and w8
May 01 18:57:47 <GarthPS> mickey: ok thanks! what is  "report" for ?
May 01 18:58:25 <mickeyl> whether you want to be notified when the SMS has been delivered to the recipients' mobile phone 
May 01 18:59:11 <mickeyl> see also 
May 01 18:59:21 <mickeyl> http://docs.freesmartphone.org/freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.html;hb=HEAD#SendTextMessage
May 01 18:59:37 <GarthPS> mickey: oh cool! I did not know that it is implemented! or it is in shr thaht it is not implemented
May 01 18:59:38 <JaMa> mrmoku: btw that patch missing on patchwork still doesn't show up :/
May 01 18:59:59 <mickeyl> GarthPS: i think SHR does not yet use this feature
May 01 19:00:02 <mickeyl> i could be wrong though
May 01 19:00:50 <GarthPS> mickey: ok , a day i would spend all my time to thoses things instead of working :)
May 01 19:03:51 <alexxy> JaMa: why it uses sim to store sms?
May 01 19:03:57 <alexxy> its silly 
May 01 19:06:25 <GarthPS> mickey: 403 Forbidden - Error lookup file on your last link
May 01 19:07:01 <mickeyl> http://docs.freesmartphone.org/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.html;hb=HEAD#SendTextMessage
May 01 19:10:27 <GarthPS> mickey: thx
May 01 19:11:43 <JaMa> alexxy: it's not intentional and will be fixed later
May 01 19:11:56 * JaMa -> dinner
May 01 19:16:23 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rbc3256f5bc15 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atmediators.vala atsms.vala sms.vala): fsogsmd: sms: reference number for org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.SendTextMessage() is now correct
May 01 19:16:28 <mickeyl> dos1: ^^
May 01 19:16:30 <mickeyl> cu
May 01 19:16:42 <dos1> mickey|tv: thanks ;)
May 01 19:16:57 <dos1> so JaMa or mrmoku, bump :)
May 01 19:17:16 <dos1> GarthPS: delivery reports worked for ages
May 01 19:17:17 <PaulFertser> yeah yeah
May 01 19:17:33 <dos1> GarthPS: there is just no GUI for that
May 01 19:18:01 <GarthPS> dos1 seriously?! my bad . but I never saw that! where it is?
May 01 19:18:02 <dos1> GarthPS: with opimd-utils and ogsmd it works (i haven't prepared it to work with fsogsmd yet)
May 01 19:18:10 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r65a324b87691 10/docs/TODO: TODO++
May 01 19:18:11 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * raa29624f231d 10/docs/TODO: TODO++
May 01 19:18:16 <GarthPS> dos1 : ah ok
May 01 19:18:46 <GarthPS> mickey: lol :p
May 01 19:19:20 <JaMa> dos1: already bumped, but seems tasty cookie, bumping again :)
May 01 19:44:44 <dos1> JaMa: did you already bumped and pushed, so i can build?
May 01 19:47:00 <JaMa> dos1: min.. rebooting phone
May 01 19:47:05 <dos1> ok
May 01 19:51:09 <JaMa> dos1: pushed
May 01 19:51:26 <dos1> thanks :)
May 01 19:55:40 <dos1> JaMa: hehe ;D
May 01 19:56:44 <JaMa> dos1: I have small patch for shr-settings.. feeling well for review? :)
May 01 19:57:07 <JaMa> dos1: I'm not python coder.. so maybe it's too awfull :)
May 01 19:57:47 <dos1> JaMa: when i started writing shr-settings i also wasn'y python coder :D
May 01 19:58:16 <dos1> so show me that ;)
May 01 20:02:32 <spaetz> the snake rocks! :-)
May 01 20:09:26 <JaMa> dos1: sent to shr-devel
May 01 20:09:40 <JaMa> dos1: but patchwork doesn't work last few days :/
May 01 20:11:22 <dos1> yup :(
May 01 20:13:32 <CIA-46> SHR: 03martin.jansa 07shr-settings * r4912195f2351 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_phoneutils.py: shr_phoneutils: try harder to find tel prefixes with fsogsmd
May 01 20:20:57 <JaMa> :)
May 01 20:46:45 <PaulFertser> I was running frameworkd all day today (and was using opimd as well) and yet i somehow missed one incomping sms message. It's not in the opimd database but it's there on sim. :/ the current scheme is certainly fragile
May 01 20:47:17 <lindi-> PaulFertser: just add cronjob that checks the sim every hour?
May 01 20:48:00 <PaulFertser> lindi-: that would be a decent band aid. But i'd personally prefer fsogsmd<->opimd interaction wrt messages reworked in a more robust way.
May 01 20:48:51 <PaulFertser> lindi-: i mean i can live with instabilities and shit like that, and i do not want to invest time in workarounds for things that should (and can) be fixed properly anyway.
May 01 20:49:27 <alexxy> JaMa: then how to delete sms from sim?
May 01 20:50:56 <dos1> alexxy: with dbus call ;]
May 01 20:51:09 <alexxy> dos1: how?
May 01 20:51:14 <alexxy> mdbus2 ?
May 01 20:51:22 <PaulFertser> alexxy: have you tried mdbus2 already? It's just great.
May 01 20:51:28 <PaulFertser> alexxy: especially it's -i mode.
May 01 20:51:29 <lindi-> PaulFertser: you want proper fix plus a fallback
May 01 20:51:29 <alexxy> and actual method?
May 01 20:51:45 <lindi-> PaulFertser: you might as well write the fallback first so that you can be confident that it works
May 01 20:51:47 <PaulFertser> lindi-: fallback for me is to check sim manually every now and then...
May 01 20:52:01 <lindi-> PaulFertser: if the fallback is used rarely then it does not get tested :)
May 01 20:52:06 <PaulFertser> alexxy: SIM.DeleteMessage
May 01 20:52:11 <alexxy> PaulFertser: what dbus path?
May 01 20:52:21 <lindi-> PaulFertser: and the fallback should of course log a warning
May 01 20:52:42 <alexxy> i'm not familar with dbus currently
May 01 20:52:43 <alexxy> =(
May 01 20:53:21 <dos1> mbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.DeleteMessage ID
May 01 20:53:50 <dos1> PaulFertser: thanks! i didn't know about -i mode
May 01 20:53:53 <dos1> :)
May 01 20:55:25 <PaulFertser> dos1: it supports tab completion, readline and history even!
May 01 20:55:55 <dos1> great thing :)
May 01 20:59:46 <PaulFertser> dos1: the only thing it doesn't support yet is calling methods with a{sv}
May 01 21:03:56 <dos1> JaMa: i have cookie
May 01 21:09:47 <PaulFertser> dos1: btw, what is the proposed usecase for the calllog? Are users supposed to keep it forever? Are users supposed to often delete entries from it?
May 01 21:10:07 <dos1> hmm
May 01 21:10:26 <dos1> PaulFertser: dunno, users should be able to do what they want with keep
May 01 21:10:38 <dos1> either keep it forever, or cleaning it frequently
May 01 21:10:40 <PaulFertser> dos1: i do not know what i want to do :)
May 01 21:11:05 <dos1> so keep it now, and if it'll make something slower, then clean it :D
May 01 21:11:39 <PaulFertser> dos1: i use reverse sort by timestamp and _limit=100 so shouldn't make a difference.
May 01 21:11:50 <dos1> yup
May 01 21:13:20 <PaulFertser> Also i'm not sure how to properly present messages to the user.
May 01 21:13:40 <PaulFertser> Shouldn't they be somehow threaded or something?
May 01 21:14:02 <PaulFertser> It doesn't look like my opimd database has any corresponding fields.
May 01 21:14:25 <dos1> PaulFertser: SMS can't be threaded
May 01 21:14:51 <PaulFertser> dos1: if i send some message in reply to another, this can be tracked. 
May 01 21:14:59 <dos1> PaulFertser: how?
May 01 21:15:14 <dos1> PaulFertser: well, on your side
May 01 21:15:19 <PaulFertser> dos1: when i press "reply" on some message my UI knows which message i replied to.
May 01 21:15:33 <dos1> PaulFertser: hmm, yup
May 01 21:15:50 <dos1> PaulFertser: but that's not really threaded view
May 01 21:16:01 <dos1> PaulFertser: well, you can implement that if you want ;)
May 01 21:16:08 <dos1> just agree with TAsn on field name
May 01 21:16:16 <PaulFertser> dos1: also i'd think it worth considering any message coming back from the same person to be a reply if received in e.g. 24 hours.
May 01 21:16:16 <dos1> and me, and maybe mickey|tv
May 01 21:16:29 <PaulFertser> dos1: do you see any downsides?
May 01 21:16:52 <dos1> PaulFertser: i think it's overcomputing, as you can just do something like in om2007.2
May 01 21:17:16 <dos1> PaulFertser: do you know, how openmoko-messages2 looked like?
May 01 21:17:23 <PaulFertser> dos1: no :)
May 01 21:17:34 <dos1> PaulFertser: so when you ran it, it displayed contact list
May 01 21:17:59 <dos1> PaulFertser: after selecting some contact, messages from and to this person was displayed
May 01 21:18:34 <dos1> PaulFertser: on first view (with contacts), people with unread messages were bolded and displayed at top of list, and counter of messages from each person was also there
May 01 21:18:56 <dos1> i liked that layout, i didn't implemented it yet with FSO only because of my laziness ;]
May 01 21:19:18 <PaulFertser> dos1: hm, sounds novel and interesting. Was it actually comfortable to use for a message-addicted user?
May 01 21:19:43 <dos1> PaulFertser: yup, but its implementation in openmoko-messages2 had downsides, like displaying always all messages from selected person
May 01 21:20:05 <dos1> when i had ~5000 messages from one person, it was taking ages
May 01 21:20:38 <dos1> but limiting and paging is easy to do with opimd ;)
May 01 21:21:20 <dos1> also, scrolling wasn't optimal, but that's only UI matter
May 01 21:21:32 <dos1> hmm
May 01 21:22:08 <dos1> i'll try to finaly manage to write some quick'n'dirty prototype in python soon
May 01 21:22:18 <dos1> as i really liked that design :)
May 01 21:23:28 <PaulFertser> dos1: (limiting and paging) are you sure? I could use unlimeted query and then read the results 100 at a time. But wouldn't querying and keeping some 20000 messages take too much time? And if i use _limit i can't query the next portion.
May 01 21:55:12 <pespin> mrmoku, link in blog entry "http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/setup-shr-build-env.sh" is wrong ;)
May 01 21:56:52 <pespin> and please, clean a bit http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ dir! :P
May 01 22:01:39 <pespin> btw, I think the file should be setup-shr-dev-env.sh instead of setup-shr-build-env.sh
May 01 22:15:27 <pespin_> in build script there's VALA_SNAPSHOT=http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/vala-0.7.10.281-f8b8-dirty.tar.bz2
May 01 22:15:52 <pespin_> and in archlinux I have installed vala 0.8.1-1
May 01 22:16:28 <pespin_> mickey|tv, mrmoku is it ok or do I have to build the 0.7.10 from freesmartphone?
May 01 22:16:55 <PaulFertser> pespin_: fyi i've built all of cornucopia with vala-0.8.0.69-35df9.tar.bz2 snapshot from freesmartphone.org
May 01 22:17:30 <pespin_> PaulFertser, I don't know if there's difference from the one on freesmartphone and the one in arch
May 01 22:17:43 <PaulFertser> pespin_: but if you're using OE, it'll try to bootstrap it anyway using the one you have already installed, i guess.
May 01 22:17:48 <pespin_> as I think one in freesmarthpone has some patches which official one  doesn't
May 01 22:18:10 <mrmoku> pespin_: ouch
May 01 22:18:13 <PaulFertser> pespin_: yes, but OE should be using the one with the patches anyway.
May 01 22:18:23 <pespin_> PaulFertser, not using OE :)
May 01 22:18:30 <PaulFertser> pespin_: then grab the one i told you
May 01 22:18:38 <PaulFertser> pespin_: others won't work properly.
May 01 22:18:41 <mrmoku> pespin_: I think you need that one from freesmartphone.org
May 01 22:18:59 <pespin_> PaulFertser, ok thanks :)
May 01 22:19:32 <pespin_> mrmoku, btw, why do I need vala if I do n't need to have frameworkd? and phoneuid is in C...
May 01 22:19:41 <mrmoku> pespin_: thanks, link is correct now :)
May 01 22:19:53 <mrmoku> pespin_: for libfso-glib
May 01 22:19:56 <PaulFertser> pespin_: probably you can use http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/vala-0.8.0.95-e7a7.tar.bz2 as well
May 01 22:20:04 <pespin_> mrmoku, ah, ok ;)
May 01 22:20:22 <pespin_> PaulFertser, ok, will try that one and let you know
May 01 22:21:02 <PaulFertser> pespin_: i also needed libgee a86abd42406 Sun Mar 21 19:49:28 2010
May 01 22:22:44 <pespin_> btw, not related, but something is hanging my computer. It hanged some minutes ago when started a music player, and had to reboot. Where can I find info on what's making it panic, after restarting it?
May 01 22:23:31 <PaulFertser> The latest hangs i saw were to intel videodrivers...
May 01 22:23:42 <pespin_> nah, nvidia here ;)
May 01 22:23:54 <pespin_> privative one's
May 01 22:24:04 * pespin_ hides before someone throws him a rock
May 01 22:25:43 <pespin_> uhm what's libnl2 about?
May 01 22:26:35 * mrmoku throws a rock... after pespin ;)
May 01 22:27:14 <mrmoku> pespin_: libnl is needed by libfsobasics or libfsoframework... don't remember which
May 01 22:27:39 <mrmoku> pespin_: and we need libfsoframework as it has nice defines for stuff like dbus names
May 01 22:29:26 <pespin_> mrmoku, I'm modyfing the script a bit to install things in /usr/local
May 01 22:30:05 <mrmoku> pespin_: sure... the script is more like a documentation about what is needed from where in which order
May 01 22:30:09 <mrmoku> very dirty
May 01 22:30:43 <mrmoku> pespin_: good luck and have fun :)
May 01 22:30:47 * mrmoku off to bed
May 01 22:30:49 <mrmoku> gnight all
May 01 22:41:19 <CIA-46> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1c69778fd5e8 10/fsogsmd/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: fix bug in 3rdparty code that flagged valid cell broadcasts as invalid :D
May 01 22:41:23 <mickey|tv> n8
May 01 22:43:23 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * r55ebde80ad9a 10/opimd-contacts: opimd-contacts: don't display EntryId field
May 01 22:43:25 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * rf866b6de25e9 10/opimd-contacts: opimd-contacts: use opimd Fields interface
May 01 22:48:15 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * rde3df19be419 10/opimd-notifier: opimd-notifier: support also Peer field
May 01 22:48:17 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * rcda5b05e0e90 10/opimd-messages: opimd-messages: support also Peer field
May 01 22:59:17 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * r59b4a7e3d669 10/opimd_utils/opimd_reply.py: opimd_reply: work with fsogsmd
May 01 22:59:28 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * rf1cb3dca6207 10/opimd_utils/opimd_reply.py: opimd_reply: remove prefixes
May 01 23:07:05 <pespin_> PaulFertser, heh checking for intltool >= 0.35.0... ./configure: line 11373: intltool-update: command not found
May 01 23:07:05 <pespin_>  found
May 01 23:07:05 <pespin_> configure: error: Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.35.0 or later.
May 01 23:07:43 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * rafe7e03c7692 10/opimd-messages: opimd-messages: add ability to display only messages from/to one contact by using cli argument
May 01 23:10:44 <CIA-46> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * r1ee77ec34e74 10/TODO: update TODO
May 01 23:13:27 <pespin_> mrmoku|away, just flashed with newset shr jffs2 and didn't get shr-wizard running at first boot
May 01 23:15:07 <pespin_> may it be because I don't have the SIM in place?
May 02 00:14:49 <tmzt_> https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/chrome/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=efa7564a08c4c82c62d6f345fed53da3c97e4886
May 02 00:15:03 <tmzt_> ar6k driver
May 02 02:05:56 <pespin_> mrmoku|away, finished installing/trying it for today :)
May 02 02:06:01 <pespin_> a pair of comments:
May 02 02:07:18 <pespin_> I have improved the script to install environment, I'm lacking one little thing and I'll pass you the link
May 02 02:08:05 <pespin_> 2nd thing: I run phoneuid in my computer after killing it in phone (and phoneui_wrapper).
May 02 02:08:59 <pespin_> each time some event which phoneuid handles occur, I get a black window all over my screen, with the GSM (no gsm network) icon in the upper-left corner
May 02 02:09:18 <pespin_> same happens i.e. if I open shr-messages
May 02 02:09:32 <pespin_> it may be due to not having the SIM inside, don't know
May 02 02:09:39 <pespin_> will try a bit more tomorrow
May 02 02:09:42 <pespin_> gnit
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