**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 03 02:59:56 2010
May 03 04:31:00 <vanous123> JaMa: do you ever sleep?
May 03 04:34:40 <vanous123> JaMa: hehe, guess you do :)
May 03 04:43:34 <JaMa> sometimes :)
May 03 04:43:56 <JaMa> but now I'm already at work, after > hour long journey from Kostelec :)
May 03 04:47:21 <vanous123> huh
May 03 04:47:23 <vanous123> ok
May 03 04:50:48 <JaMa> fyi: fixed EFL is already building ;)
May 03 04:51:12 <JaMa> and there is small issue with shr's base-files.. I'll fix hopefully now
May 03 04:51:49 <vanous123> so i'll perhaps wait with driving to kgarten & work :)
May 03 04:52:18 <vanous123> or perhaps even better, upgrade @ work
May 03 04:52:26 <JaMa> you can as well 'echo "export HOME=/home/root" >> /etc/profile'
May 03 04:52:46 <JaMa> that's why e17 is now using / as HOME :/
May 03 04:52:55 <vanous123> yup
May 03 04:53:02 <vanous123> thats what i thought 
May 03 04:53:50 <JaMa> vanous123: and shr_elm_softkeyb doesn't work for me after xserver start, maybe because of DISPLAY not set, but after restart it works ok
May 03 04:54:04 <JaMa> I mean restart of shr_elm_softkeyb
May 03 04:54:48 <vanous123> the trick with _a_very_fast_taps_ works for me but it's not easy :)
May 03 04:55:17 <JaMa> it didn't work here.. but works for 1 click with latest EFL :)
May 03 04:56:31 <vanous123> great!
May 03 04:56:59 <vanous123> can't see you building @ tinderbox
May 03 04:57:50 <JaMa> http://tinderbox.openembedded.org/builds/70275/
May 03 05:00:02 <vanous123> how come index is ready before all is finished? 
May 03 05:03:16 <JaMa> that's from shr-t
May 03 05:03:27 <JaMa> I built both in paralled for fsodeviced recipe fix
May 03 05:03:50 <vanous123> i see, that confused me
May 03 05:04:48 * vanous123 looking just briefly while getting Otakarek to get dressed...
May 03 05:05:37 <JaMa> hehe
May 03 05:07:04 <vanous123> gotta run, c u
May 03 06:32:49 <mrmoku> JaMa: ohh, fixed EFL :)
May 03 06:32:54 <mrmoku> nice
May 03 06:35:43 <spaetz> doh, lost sound on shr-t? WHy could that be?
May 03 06:35:55 <spaetz>  /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-default has to be a symlink to /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.29 (or alsa-2.6.32)
May 03 06:36:00 <spaetz> grmpf
May 03 06:36:19 <spaetz> do I need to bump a package? I don't even have my FR here at the moment?
May 03 06:36:39 <spaetz> ahh, JaMa fixed that! THousand thanks Jama!
May 03 06:37:25 <JaMa> yw
May 03 06:38:33 <spaetz> ahh, old fsodeviced did not clean up its stuff when uninstalling
May 03 06:39:10 <graziano> is there a chance to get rid of mokonnect and put iliwi default connection manager?
May 03 06:39:12 <mrmoku> ~hail JaMa 
May 03 06:39:13 * apt bows down to JaMa and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
May 03 06:39:15 <JaMa> mrmoku: now also fixed base-files for using right HOME while starting E17 (sorry for not spotting this before, I had it in my tweaked profile already..)
May 03 06:39:18 <graziano> people needs something working
May 03 06:39:24 <JaMa> mrmoku: hehe :)
May 03 06:39:48 <mrmoku> JaMa: yeah, saw that... well... we should have fixed that a year ago :P
May 03 06:40:35 <JaMa> mrmoku: btw any hint how to redirect gsm-gadget stdout+stderr? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/209195/
May 03 06:40:42 <mrmoku> graziano: yeah, we should do that... until then just uninstall mokonnect and install iliwi :-)
May 03 06:40:58 <JaMa> not sure if _eina_stringshare_node_from_str are from gsm-gadgets, but there is *a lot* of them
May 03 06:41:23 <mrmoku> hmm
May 03 06:41:32 <JaMa> mrmoku: yeah fix it a year ago.. or leave root and use normal user also a year ago :)
May 03 06:41:34 <mrmoku> even without those the gadget is quite verbose :)
May 03 06:41:43 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: hey :) does your Messages domain have SMS-delivered field?
May 03 06:41:49 <JaMa> sure I have 1000+ lines already :)
May 03 06:42:17 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: hmm... let me check... I have a undelivered message :)
May 03 06:43:03 <JaMa> mrmoku: and shr-settings icon now missing here too :/
May 03 06:43:39 <mrmoku> JaMa: ahh... finally :P
May 03 06:43:59 <JaMa> mrmoku: but I think this log http://paste.pocoo.org/show/209198/ is clear about "something is broken here" :)
May 03 06:44:23 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: no
May 03 06:45:05 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/209199/
May 03 06:46:33 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: i wonder what the latest dos1's patch uses then...
May 03 06:46:49 <mrmoku> dos1: did you break something? :P
May 03 06:48:10 <JaMa> yeah.. python-elementary :)
May 03 06:48:41 <JaMa> latest doesn't build after his patch was applied upstream (haven't checked why..)
May 03 06:48:56 * mrmoku does not care about python-elementary ;)
May 03 06:50:20 <graziano> mrmoku: sure but many users, don't know how to connect using the terminal and it's PITA to do it so I think it's something you should do it soon imho if possible :)
May 03 06:51:16 <mrmoku> graziano: k
May 03 06:51:32 <mrmoku> JaMa: would do you think... switch to iliwi in task-shr-minimal?
May 03 06:52:28 <mrmoku> dos1: please add the three SMS-... fields :-)
May 03 06:53:53 <spaetz> JaMa: what is the best way in shr to replace mokonnect with iliwi? Can we do rreplaces just for SHR or would it be ok to do that for whole of OE?
May 03 06:56:12 <JaMa> spaetz: no need to do that.. just replace it in task-shr-minimal
May 03 06:56:27 <JaMa> spaetz: RREPLACES is usefull only for recipes providing same files
May 03 06:56:40 <spaetz> JaMa: but what Iif I explicitely installed mokonnect?
May 03 06:56:47 <spaetz> It would not get replaced then
May 03 06:56:59 <spaetz> but we probably don't want to replace it in that case....
May 03 06:57:09 <JaMa> if you explicitily installed it, opkg should keep it for you
May 03 06:57:19 <spaetz> mmh. yes task-shr-minimal should be the best solution...
May 03 06:57:43 <JaMa> if you got it because if task-shr-minimal RDEPENDS, then you'll get iliwi and orphaned mokonnect will be automatically removed after task-shr-minimal upgrade
May 03 06:58:44 <spaetz> right
May 03 06:59:04 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: i tried it now: the absent fields are added automatically on the first update.
May 03 07:03:47 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: oh, ok
May 03 07:06:40 <alexxy> mrmoku: JaMa: seems messages stopped resolving contact names
May 03 07:06:55 <alexxy> after some recent upgrades
May 03 07:12:54 <mrmoku> JaMa: ERROR: Task 2632 (/home/mok/shrbuild/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/e17/illume-keyboard-default_svn.bb, do_fetch) failed with 256
May 03 07:12:56 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: fyi dos1 changed @contacts to @Contact. and TAsn Changed Recipient/Sender to Peer in messages.
May 03 07:13:28 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: but the latter is effective only for the new messages
May 03 07:13:35 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: to Peer I already adjusted... @Contacts did not work for me (not clear what is sent over dbus)
May 03 07:13:38 <mrmoku> yep
May 03 07:13:38 <PaulFertser> alexxy: can you check with opimd-cli please?
May 03 07:14:02 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: "_resolve_phonenumber": true and you'll get id in @Contacts.
May 03 07:14:29 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: but it can be multiple contacts (according to Tasn=)
May 03 07:14:53 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: yep :/ not sure what to do about it.
May 03 07:15:53 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: probably something should warn the user if adding a new contact with a clashing $phonenumber. Probably even on opimd level. That'd make adding a new contact a bit slower but the thing will work more predicatable i guess.
May 03 07:18:21 <alexxy> PaulFertser: opimd-cli c query works fine
May 03 07:18:32 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: but I want to have multiple contacts with the same number
May 03 07:19:04 <PaulFertser> alexxy: hm, that's not exactly what i asked for. Please reread the backlog.
May 03 07:19:18 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: why, and how can it make sense? And how to present it to the user? 
May 03 07:19:49 <alexxy> PaulFertser: what actualy should i check?
May 03 07:20:13 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: for example... I might want to have a contact for my father and one for my mother... both have the same landline... but different mobile numbers
May 03 07:20:47 <PaulFertser> alexxy: if the messages it doesn't resolve have Sender/Recipient or Peer field.
May 03 07:21:17 <alexxy> it doesnt resolve Sender/Recipient fields
May 03 07:21:22 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: then i'd make a special "Parents' home" contact i guess.
May 03 07:21:52 <PaulFertser> alexxy: so that's unstable for you. Old messages have Sender/Recipient, new messages have only Peer. New phoneui resolves only Peer.
May 03 07:22:10 <alexxy> hmmm
May 03 07:23:57 <PaulFertser> alexxy: sorry, but that made the API more consistent
May 03 07:24:13 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: maybe... dunno if enforcing unique phone numbers is good though. Resolving to multiple contacts does not make much sense - that's right. It maybe should just resolve to the first one found
May 03 07:24:15 <alexxy> no problem =)
May 03 07:24:18 <mrmoku> anyway
May 03 07:24:23 * mrmoku got to run to a client :/
May 03 07:24:23 <mrmoku> bbl
May 03 07:27:36 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: I guess it's because python-elementary svn downgraded e checkout and this is upgrading it back? (I haven't seen it here, because I built whole efl and then downgraded python-elementary)
May 03 07:28:03 * spaetz just bumped pisi on shr-t
May 03 07:28:09 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: hmm.. shr buildhost didn't have this problem..
May 03 07:29:20 <TAsn-Laptop> JaMa, mrmoku|away: Bump EFL please, shr_quickpanel should work.
May 03 07:31:01 <TAsn-Laptop> ciao.
May 03 07:31:04 <JaMa> TAsn-Laptop: read log
May 03 07:31:12 <JaMa> and opkg upgrade.. :)
May 03 07:31:21 <JaMa> hehe
May 03 08:08:09 <daniele_athome> morning
May 03 08:10:03 <JaMa> morning
May 03 08:34:44 <spaetz> morning
May 03 08:48:06 <daniele_athome> I have a problem starting a custom Xsession
May 03 08:48:13 <daniele_athome> on boot, HOME variable is null
May 03 08:48:17 <daniele_athome> s/null/empty/
May 03 08:48:18 <apt> daniele_athome meant: on boot, HOME variable is empty
May 03 08:48:20 <daniele_athome> (damn java :S )
May 03 08:48:42 <daniele_athome> so 90xXwindowManager script doesn't see $HOME/.Xsession
May 03 08:48:55 <daniele_athome> well sorry, HOME is /
May 03 08:49:02 <daniele_athome> so [ -x //.Xsession ] fails
May 03 08:49:06 <daniele_athome> and start illume :|
May 03 08:49:11 <JaMa> daniele_athome: did you update base-files?
May 03 08:49:30 <daniele_athome> JaMa, I will reinstall , sec.
May 03 08:49:39 <daniele_athome> upgraded this morning
May 03 08:49:42 <JaMa> fixed few hours ago
May 03 08:49:47 <daniele_athome> 8.38
May 03 08:49:59 <JaMa> what's that? time? :)
May 03 08:50:03 <daniele_athome> 8:38
May 03 08:50:04 <daniele_athome> :)
May 03 08:50:20 <JaMa> timezone?
May 03 08:50:27 <daniele_athome> JaMa, buildhost timezone
May 03 08:50:39 <JaMa> http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=87d5cdd0b62783b137f3186397b6bd8f584a9916
May 03 08:50:42 <JaMa> pushed 5:09
May 03 08:50:50 <JaMa> ah 5:30
May 03 08:51:12 <daniele_athome> reinstalling base-files
May 03 08:52:11 <vanous123> JaMa: hehe, update via gprs on my way to work, so gprs is stable on high data volume :)
May 03 08:52:23 <JaMa> well if you have 3.0.14-r93.4 from 8:39 then you shouldn't get it empty after . /etc/profile
May 03 08:52:28 <JaMa> vanous123: great! :)
May 03 08:52:57 <JaMa> spaetz: does epdfview recompile help?
May 03 08:53:06 <JaMa> spaetz: I've recompiled it few days ago in shr-t
May 03 08:53:11 <JaMa> spaetz: and asked for test here..
May 03 08:53:23 <JaMa> spaetz: nobody replied.. so no idea (and I have no shr-t install)
May 03 08:53:27 <vanous123> JaMa: someone reported missing e-gadget battery indicator filling?
May 03 08:53:31 <spaetz> ahh, missed the fact that you recompiled.
May 03 08:53:31 <vanous123> :)
May 03 08:53:44 <spaetz> I don't have abiword and epdfview installed.
May 03 08:54:21 <spaetz> I just recompile and sync. Can't hurt. And ask the trac ticket to test as I will close the trac ticket otherwise soon.
May 03 08:55:35 <spaetz> and I don't want to install abiword on my FR either... :)
May 03 09:06:27 <spaetz> mmh, for the convenient '?' key in notmuch-hello to work, we would need notmuch-hello to be a major mode, right?
May 03 09:06:30 <spaetz> oops
May 03 09:10:14 <daniele_athome> JaMa, rebooting
May 03 09:11:23 <daniele_athome> JaMa, doesn't work
May 03 09:11:27 <daniele_athome> HOME is still "/"
May 03 09:11:29 <daniele_athome> :(
May 03 09:11:55 <daniele_athome> in passwd root has /home/root
May 03 09:11:56 <daniele_athome> mmm
May 03 09:12:56 <JaMa> vanous123: haven't seen that
May 03 09:13:18 <JaMa> daniele_athome: do you have that part from commit in /etc/profile?
May 03 09:13:50 <JaMa> daniele_athome: can you try to check where / got to HOME?, because I don't have it here in yesterdays shr-u image + upgrade
May 03 09:13:52 <daniele_athome> JaMa, yes
May 03 09:14:02 <daniele_athome> I have the export
May 03 09:14:12 <daniele_athome> JaMa, what do you mean?
May 03 09:14:36 <JaMa> something is exporting HOME="/" before /etc/profile is sourced maybe
May 03 09:14:43 <daniele_athome> ok doing grep
May 03 09:14:54 <JaMa> so that's why HOME="/" is not replaced with HOME="/home/root"
May 03 09:15:21 <daniele_athome> JaMa, /etc/X11/Xinit also does export HOME
May 03 09:15:22 <daniele_athome> but it's correct
May 03 09:16:06 <JaMa> yup and /etc/X11/Xinit shouldn't be sourced from initscripts
May 03 09:16:30 <daniele_athome> ok
May 03 09:17:00 <JaMa> hmm maybe it's also because I'm using bash instead of crapyboxed sh
May 03 09:17:02 <daniele_athome> JaMa, looked in /etc, all ok
May 03 09:17:39 <daniele_athome> JaMa, I'm using bash too, but only as interactive shell
May 03 09:17:49 <daniele_athome> I guess init scripts use /bin/sh
May 03 09:17:56 <daniele_athome> it's a link to busybox
May 03 09:18:33 <JaMa> and I have it linked to bash..
May 03 09:51:01 <daniele_athome> JaMa, so?
May 03 09:57:33 <feitingen> JaMa: just out of curiosity, what is the homedir of root in /etc/passwd?
May 03 10:03:07 <spaetz> omnewrotate killing the video star?
May 03 10:03:17 * spaetz whistles.
May 03 10:03:36 <spaetz> and that seconds after I bumped the seemingly innocent package...
May 03 10:27:44 <mrmoku> JaMa: cleaning and rebuilding fixed it
May 03 10:34:49 <mrmoku> dos1: heh... you saw that do<tab> did not work for me? :P
May 03 10:35:30 <mrmoku> dos1: the USSD thing... always twice? Can't see why from just looking at the code...
May 03 10:39:22 <dos1> mrmoku: yup, always
May 03 10:40:53 <mrmoku> dos1: did you check with mdbus2 -sl that the signal get's sent only once?
May 03 10:41:30 <dos1> mrmoku: yup
May 03 10:41:44 <mrmoku> hmm... k :/
May 03 10:43:29 <mrmoku> dos1: g_debug("fso_incoming_ussd_handler(mode=%d, message=%s)" - do you have that twice in phonefsod.log too? 
May 03 10:44:39 <dos1> mrmoku: looks like i don't have DEBUG enabled
May 03 10:44:44 <dos1> sec, i'll check
May 03 10:47:24 <PaulFertser> dos1: so now if i send a message i should add it to opimd myself with the code i got from SendMessage in SMS-message-reference field, right?
May 03 10:51:18 <dos1> PaulFertser: if you want to support delivery reports, then yes
May 03 10:53:13 <JaMa> spaetz: new omnewrotate, doesn't kill xserver, only xserver-common+omnewrotate combination does
May 03 10:53:47 <spaetz> oops
May 03 10:54:13 <spaetz> ahh. xserver-common is not in shr-t yet, I think.
May 03 10:54:18 <spaetz> good
May 03 10:56:06 <JaMa> no I pushed it today
May 03 10:56:43 <PaulFertser> dos1: and if i want outgoing messages in my database at all
May 03 11:06:16 <PaulFertser> dos1: btw, is it you who's going to break api again and to rename Read -> New in messages? Or was it TAsn? Isn't it better to try to do all api-breaking changes in one day?
May 03 11:07:52 <dos1> PaulFertser: no, it's not me
May 03 11:33:56 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: does SendTextMessage work for you?
May 03 11:43:21 <jluis>  /join qi-hardware
May 03 11:44:17 <PaulFertser> Does it work for anybody with fsogsmd?
May 03 11:45:02 <daniele_athome> guys italian translation in ML sucks :|
May 03 11:47:29 <PaulFertser> Hm, looks like it works for me, the operator actually takes money for every call :) 
May 03 11:47:38 <PaulFertser> But i do not see delivery reports yet.
May 03 11:47:57 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: I think so
May 03 11:48:33 <mrmoku> JaMa: /bin/ps: invalid option -- 'e'
May 03 11:51:25 <mrmoku> looks like initscripts-shr is busybox incompatible :P
May 03 11:51:45 * mrmoku understands why DocScrutinizer hates busybox ;)
May 03 11:51:54 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: do message receipts work for you?
May 03 11:52:01 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: no, not yet implemented
May 03 11:52:06 <DocScrutinizer> and you bet that never has changed
May 03 11:52:07 <mrmoku> (on our side)
May 03 11:52:11 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: sure :)
May 03 11:52:19 <mrmoku> also sure it never will change
May 03 11:52:29 <DocScrutinizer> I *HATE* BUSYBOX!
May 03 11:52:33 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: dos1 implemnted those in opimd recently
May 03 11:52:45 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: yeah, but libphone-ui-shr does not make use of it yet
May 03 11:53:09 <feitingen> mrmoku: is that not noing to be implemented in frameword or cornucopia?
May 03 11:53:36 <mrmoku> feitingen: but it must be an optional thing... that you can specifically turn on for single messages
May 03 11:53:42 <mrmoku> as with some providers that costs money
May 03 11:53:56 <mrmoku> so we need a GUI part to actually activate it
May 03 11:55:15 <feitingen> can it be activated somewhere before sending and deactivated after the message has been sent so the current sms-sending api wont break?
May 03 11:55:57 <PaulFertser> feitingen: the api is allright already
May 03 11:56:03 <mrmoku> well... that sounds rather complicated... I would prefer some checker somewhere to just enable it while sending
May 03 11:56:36 <mrmoku> JaMa: just removing '-e x' from killproc in /etc/init.d/functions makes it work
May 03 11:56:46 <mrmoku> dunno if that breaks with the real tools then
May 03 11:56:51 <mrmoku> maybe you could try that
May 03 11:57:32 <JaMa> mrmoku: I've added procps to inistscripts-shr RDEPENDS
May 03 11:57:36 <feitingen> PaulFertser: need to look at it again then. :)
May 03 11:57:48 <JaMa> mrmoku: that's how it was 'solved' with xserver-kdrive-common
May 03 11:57:55 <mrmoku> JaMa: ahh.. just right now? or why didn't I get it?
May 03 11:58:01 <JaMa> no in morning :/
May 03 11:58:13 <JaMa> http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=318212d03dbf4dbb6b31abb0261bc59436f29d28
May 03 11:58:19 <feitingen> its been a while since last time.. apropos, what is the best place to find the most current api?
May 03 12:00:49 <mrmoku> feitingen: for which part?
May 03 12:01:00 <mrmoku> docs.freesmartphone.org is still the one
May 03 12:11:26 <bumbl> is there an ipk available for the new messaging interface as shown at scap? if yes is it already usable?
May 03 12:11:57 <thrashold> Hello. With the current architecture, could I run opimd as a user, while the rest of the frameowkr is running as root, and implement my own, independent of framework, opimd, that provides LDAP contacts or something?
May 03 12:15:46 <mrmoku> bumbl: that's opimd-utils
May 03 12:15:53 <mrmoku> bumbl: and should be in the feed
May 03 12:16:07 <mrmoku> the libphone-ui-shr one did not change (yet)
May 03 12:21:22 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... I still have r15 of the initscripts... it does get pulled in by the image and is not part of task-shr-minimal probably?
May 03 12:21:55 <JaMa> mrmoku: iirc task-base
May 03 12:22:05 <mrmoku> I built task-shr-minimal
May 03 12:22:15 <JaMa> mrmoku: so it should be part of image RDEPENDS
May 03 12:22:24 <mrmoku> ok, that explains :)
May 03 12:23:00 <JaMa> not really :)
May 03 12:23:13 <JaMa> shr-lite-image only RDEPENDS on task-shr-minimal IIRC
May 03 12:23:15 <feitingen> is cornucopia faster than frameworkd?
May 03 12:23:35 <JaMa> hmm IMAGES_LINGUAS="en-us" in shr-lite-image.bb
May 03 12:23:37 <JaMa> grr
May 03 12:24:31 <JaMa> mrmoku: yeah.. it explains that it's pulled only by image.bbclass
May 03 12:27:41 <PaulFertser> LOL, my buddy's ISP are morons
May 03 12:28:04 <PaulFertser> He reported to them they shouldn't block ICMP fragmentation needed but DF set reply from their routers because it breaks PMTU.
May 03 12:28:11 <PaulFertser> They're trying to convince him there's no issue.
May 03 12:28:15 <PaulFertser> And now we retested.
May 03 12:28:22 <Wonka> gone?
May 03 12:28:44 <mrmoku> JaMa: and battery applet is broken (or misconfigured dunno)
May 03 12:28:48 <PaulFertser> And they seem to have started to ignore DF altogether, they now do fragmentation for all packets :)))
May 03 12:29:18 <JaMa> mrmoku: vanous123 also said so in the morning.. here I see empty and in shr-today screen full
May 03 12:30:12 <mrmoku> JaMa: switching to HAL fixes it... but we don't want that :P
May 03 12:31:04 <JaMa> yeah no HAL on my image :)
May 03 12:31:52 * mrmoku still has HAL installed and running :/
May 03 12:32:04 <JaMa> mrmoku: rebuilding images on buildhost for update initscripts-shr, thanks!
May 03 12:32:46 <JaMa> mrmoku: btw in few days/hours there will be new staging merge in oe.dev
May 03 12:32:59 <mrmoku> the one from rp i gues?
May 03 12:33:00 <mrmoku> +s
May 03 12:33:07 <JaMa> mrmoku: some breakage is expected yeah.. RP's
May 03 12:33:19 * mrmoku got used to breakage :P
May 03 12:33:41 <JaMa> mrmoku: just to be aware that we won't be able to make update on shr buildhost for a while maybe
May 03 12:34:05 <JaMa> and I expect to rebuild from scratch after initial fixes and cleanup locally here
May 03 12:34:11 <mrmoku> ok
May 03 12:34:30 <mrmoku> hmm... after switching the battery back to internal it still works...
May 03 12:34:42 <JaMa> hehe
May 03 12:35:15 <JaMa> now it's not clear if it's xserver-common breakage or EFL bump..
May 03 12:36:31 <mrmoku> btw. efl output goes to stdout now
May 03 12:36:42 <mrmoku> which means you cannot see it somewhere, right?
May 03 12:37:09 <mrmoku> to be more precise... stdout output is not redirected to /tmp/x.log anymore...
May 03 12:38:52 <spaetz2> yeah, breakage :-)!
May 03 12:39:03 <JaMa> you can if you restart xserver from ssh
May 03 12:39:12 <JaMa> or use that patch I sent to list about breakage..
May 03 12:39:27 <JaMa> now I have it in /var/log/90x..
May 03 12:41:06 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: are you sure receiving messages works for you after suspend/resume? Here i seem to be in a situation when unsol about new messages are disabled.
May 03 12:41:19 <bumbl> mrmoku: well i have opimd-utils installed but it does not have this grouping by contact thing
May 03 12:41:23 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: what do you set to DEBUG to get only AT commands log? 
May 03 12:42:17 <mrmoku> bumbl: then it is probably not built yet... strange though
May 03 12:42:40 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: do you have a [libfsotransport] section in fsogsmd.conf?
May 03 12:42:47 <bumbl> mrmoku: could be that my version is too old
May 03 12:43:06 <bumbl> upgraded yesterday the last time
May 03 12:43:31 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: ok
May 03 12:43:35 <mrmoku> bumbl: ahh, then too old... I bumped the rev for it yesterday evening
May 03 12:44:08 <mrmoku> bumbl: btw. the segfault on incoming messages should be fixed too
May 03 12:44:39 <bumbl> mrmoku: another question: could you change the evopedia dependency from midori to ventura (and change midori to ventura in /usr/bin/evopedia.sh) - everything works perfectly with ventura
May 03 12:44:55 <bumbl> ok I'll upgrade immediately
May 03 12:52:25 <mrmoku> mickey|office: did you see http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/15621/systemd-alternative-zu-init-vorgeschlagen.html
May 03 12:54:40 <mrmoku> bumbl: the evopedia.sh is part of evopedia itself
May 03 12:54:59 * mrmoku wonders if mickey|zzZZzz disliked that link because it concurs with his pet project :P
May 03 12:57:11 <bumbl> mrmoku: i know - could be patched
May 03 12:57:31 <JaMa> someone using evopedia here?
May 03 12:57:52 <bumbl> JaMa: i am using it and i love it
May 03 12:57:52 <JaMa> ah I see :)
May 03 12:58:11 <JaMa> I was changing that recipe for ventura
May 03 12:58:21 <JaMa> before looking here to see that you're talking about it ;)
May 03 12:58:42 <bumbl> JaMa: if you change it, you have to patch /usr/bin/evopedia.sh accordingly
May 03 12:58:54 <bumbl> just replace midori with ventura
May 03 12:59:34 <JaMa> see it.. but still using some "abstract" browser in evopedia.sh and lower RDEPENDS to RSUGGEST would be even better
May 03 12:59:57 <bumbl> yep
May 03 13:00:08 <JaMa> ie debianutils provide sensible-browser
May 03 13:01:32 <bumbl> xserver-nodm init script is broken:  when trying to stop it gives a /bin/ps: invalid option -- 'e'
May 03 13:02:56 <spaetz> mrmoku: systemd sounds interesting, but let's wait 2 years and see if we can use it then :)
May 03 13:04:57 <JaMa> bumbl: it's not
May 03 13:05:03 <JaMa> bumbl: please opkg upgrade
May 03 13:05:34 <JaMa> bumbl: you should get newer initscripts-shr and also procps installed back to your image
May 03 13:10:12 <bumbl> JaMa: i did opkg upgrade a couple of minutes ago - just rechecking that opkg did not crash and leave me with a half upgraded system
May 03 13:10:54 <bumbl> nah nothing to upgrade
May 03 13:11:15 <bumbl> initscripts-shr - 0.0.1-r16.4
May 03 13:11:41 <bumbl> but no procps
May 03 13:11:49 <mrmoku> spaetz: going to try out that qemu image... reading that article gives me the impression that it is _not_ in early state :P
May 03 13:12:07 <bumbl> i'll install it manually
May 03 13:12:53 <bumbl> get to go now - bye and thank you
May 03 13:16:35 <spaetz> mrmoku: do try it out and report back 
May 03 13:16:56 <spaetz> but the 40sec boot that Jama has with devtmpfs sounds nice as well
May 03 13:17:35 <JaMa> initscripts-shr do pull procps... http://paste.pocoo.org/show/209279/
May 03 13:19:57 <spaetz> who the heck would set HOME=/ ?
May 03 13:20:03 <spaetz> that is really weird
May 03 13:20:41 <mrmoku> JaMa: worked for me on my local build
May 03 13:20:55 <misc> spaetz: when there is no home in nfs
May 03 13:20:59 <JaMa> yes and I didn't have it here (now I'm not sure after all those changes on "almost fresh" image
May 03 15:03:39 <mrmoku> mickey|office: you should take a look at http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
May 03 15:03:47 <mrmoku> might go in the direction of fso-boot
May 03 15:12:39 <TAsn-Laptop> JaMa, mrmoku: did an efl bump fix quickpanel softkey app?
May 03 15:15:42 <mrmoku> TAsn-Laptop: yep
May 03 15:15:52 <mrmoku> TAsn-Laptop: spank your isp :P
May 03 15:16:34 <TAsn-Laptop> cool
May 03 15:16:39 <TAsn-Laptop> im on the phone with them.
May 03 15:17:21 <TAsn-Laptop>  what a fucking noob though. :|
May 03 15:17:29 <TAsn-Laptop> I'm telling him I have an edimax modem
May 03 15:17:46 <TAsn-Laptop> and he said, no, you don't have
May 03 15:17:58 <TAsn-Laptop> and I told him I do 
May 03 15:18:15 <TAsn-Laptop> and then he just gave up :|
May 03 15:18:39 <mrmoku> heh
May 03 15:18:45 <TAsn-Laptop> I'm right btw.
May 03 15:20:19 <TAsn-Laptop> ciao.
May 03 15:20:26 <TAsn-Laptop> they need me to connect to my router
May 03 15:20:31 <TAsn-Laptop> which is on my network
May 03 15:24:36 <mrmoku> convinced him?
May 03 15:24:36 <TAsn-Laptop> ok, im back
May 03 15:24:40 <TAsn-Laptop> they just blamed the infrastructure
May 03 15:24:48 <TAsn-Laptop> which looks correct to me
May 03 15:24:56 <TAsn-Laptop> as it's an issue with adsl sync
May 03 15:24:59 <TAsn-Laptop> looks like a poor line.
May 03 15:25:03 <mrmoku> they can blame however they want... as long as they make you productive again ;)
May 03 15:25:15 <mrmoku> s/however/whoever/
May 03 15:25:16 <apt> mrmoku meant: they can blame whoever they want... as long as they make you productive again ;)
May 03 15:25:16 <TAsn-Laptop> :p
May 03 15:27:03 <JaMa> TAsn-Laptop: bumped even before you wake up :P
May 03 15:28:05 <mrmoku> NOTE: package systemd-0.0.0+gitr0+6c78be3c3c63b59f18311b2d2b0e8d745f6ba131-r0: task do_configure: Started
May 03 15:28:07 <TAsn-Laptop> i c. :)
May 03 15:28:12 <TAsn-Laptop> I'm not useful anymore? :P
May 03 15:28:32 <JaMa> TAsn-Laptop: you are! :)
May 03 15:28:33 <TAsn-Laptop> I'm the one who contacted dh!
May 03 15:31:00 <TAsn-Laptop> I'm going up the food chain!
May 03 15:31:13 <TAsn-Laptop> I'm finally being transferred to the Internet support guy.
May 03 15:31:15 <TAsn-Laptop> Phew. :P
May 03 15:32:07 <mrmoku> :P
May 03 15:32:13 <TAsn-Laptop> ciao, need to do stuff again.
May 03 15:35:06 <JaMa> someone with attached keyboard to neo?
May 03 15:40:22 <JaMa> mrmoku: should I replace that mokonnect?
May 03 15:40:47 <JaMa> mrmoku: I haven't tried iliwi.. but if all wants that.. I don't care (I don't need both..)
May 03 15:44:09 <JaMa> vanous123: *g* thanks!
May 03 15:45:25 <mickey|office> mrmoku: good pointer, already marked in my newslist. thanks
May 03 15:45:59 * JaMa KAFC - keyboard away from computer (connected to neo instead..)
May 03 15:52:13 <mrmoku> JaMa: yep, replace it. I tried it and it works
May 03 15:54:51 * JaMa back again.. desktop has PS2 keyb :)
May 03 16:02:19 <TAsn> TAsn -laptop is in the house :P
May 03 16:02:27 <mrmoku> :P
May 03 16:02:30 <mrmoku> nice
May 03 16:02:35 * mrmoku dinner
May 03 16:03:21 <TAsn> JaMa/mrmoku - efl update please :P (again)
May 03 16:04:01 <JaMa> dos1: can you check python-elementary build before EFL bump requested by TAsn ?
May 03 16:05:12 <dos1> JaMa: hmm?
May 03 16:07:20 <JaMa> heh iliwi  doesn't even parse right
May 03 16:07:31 <JaMa> dos1: your patch.. broke python-elementary build
May 03 16:07:41 <JaMa> dos1: I mean the one accepted upstream yesterday
May 03 16:07:45 <dos1> oh, shit
May 03 16:08:00 <dos1> JaMa: log?
May 03 16:09:17 <JaMa> don't have it now (as I downgraded SRCREV to get newer EFL in feeds, but in few mins..)
May 03 16:09:26 <dos1> ok
May 03 16:09:35 <JaMa> dos1: all was about unresolved symbols
May 03 16:09:50 <dos1> hmm
May 03 16:10:15 <JaMa> like elm_panel_orient_get
May 03 16:10:39 <dos1> ahhh
May 03 16:13:12 <JaMa> dos1: huh, someone fixed it in meantime
May 03 16:13:20 <dos1> oh :)
May 03 16:13:51 <JaMa> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/48577
May 03 16:14:42 <alexxy> JaMa: mrmoku|dinner : TAsn : after upgrade shr-u has default $HOME for user as /
May 03 16:14:48 <alexxy> and that is bad behavior
May 03 16:15:17 <JaMa> alexxy: known
May 03 16:15:25 <JaMa> read ML for details please
May 03 16:15:33 <JaMa> but thanks for reporting :)
May 03 16:15:42 <JaMa> you're 13th today :)
May 03 16:16:04 <alexxy> he he
May 03 16:16:11 <alexxy> my favourite number
May 03 16:16:11 <alexxy> =)
May 03 16:16:26 <JaMa> alexxy: any idea where it gets set to /?
May 03 16:16:36 <JaMa> alexxy: because we don't set it :)
May 03 16:16:39 <alexxy> JaMa: its default value
May 03 16:16:57 <JaMa> alexxy: where?
May 03 16:17:00 <alexxy> if user has no home or home unavailable then HOME will be set to /
May 03 16:17:07 <JaMa> by who?
May 03 16:17:12 <JaMa> bash doesn't do it for me
May 03 16:17:27 <JaMa> /bin/sh -> /bin/busybox doesn't do it for me
May 03 16:18:04 * JaMa want's to try agetty on tty if it's set there, but first I need working USB keyboard
May 03 16:21:01 <GarthPS> hello guys! so again a new fresh image! your are hot guys! :) so what is new betwenn yesterday and today? safe upgrade?
May 03 16:21:45 <JaMa> GarthPS: xserver changes
May 03 16:21:56 <JaMa> please read ML, git log
May 03 16:22:40 <GarthPS> JaMa: oh sorry.. I did not read my MLs yet..
May 03 16:33:02 <GarthPS> JaMa: I gound oe log url so no more noise like this for me , my apologies.
May 03 16:36:57 <TAsn> I missed my computer :)
May 03 16:38:37 <JaMa> GarthPS: no problem :)
May 03 16:38:40 <TAsn> JaMa, xorg won't run
May 03 16:38:46 <TAsn> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Power Button"
May 03 16:38:50 <TAsn> what am I doing wrong?
May 03 16:38:56 <JaMa> GarthPS: just git log is better and most precise answer for (what's new)
May 03 16:39:08 <JaMa> TAsn: do you have calibration or omnewrotate?
May 03 16:39:16 <GarthPS> JaMa: ;) thx
May 03 16:39:20 <TAsn> omnewrotate <- no
May 03 16:39:21 <Wonka> I get that too and didn't notice anything was wrong (until e started segfaulting)
May 03 16:39:24 <TAsn> JaMa, calibration?
May 03 16:39:26 <TAsn> no idea.
May 03 16:39:33 <Wonka> (but that doesn't correlate, I think)
May 03 16:39:42 <JaMa> TAsn: /etc/pointercal.xinput exist?
May 03 16:40:23 <TAsn> yes
May 03 16:40:34 <JaMa> can you try to rename it for test?
May 03 16:40:55 <JaMa> that's probably it.. for some reason xinput_calibrator is able to kill starting Xorg..
May 03 16:41:16 <JaMa> checking it ATM (+HOME +klibc +elf..)
May 03 16:41:21 <TAsn> still (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Power Button"
May 03 16:41:24 <TAsn> but now it starts :P
May 03 16:41:31 <TAsn> and works.
May 03 16:41:47 <JaMa> that EE is "normal"
May 03 16:42:12 <TAsn> and my 3buttons quickpanel works :P
May 03 16:42:13 <TAsn> Sweet.
May 03 16:42:22 <mrmoku> 3 buttons?
May 03 16:42:22 <JaMa> evdev dies for Power Button and then xf86-input-keyboard is used as fallback for Power Button
May 03 16:42:29 <JaMa> < x >
May 03 16:42:39 <TAsn> mrmoku, ^
May 03 16:43:02 <Q-Master> TAsn: have you fixed it?
May 03 16:43:03 <mrmoku> heh... after resume quickpanel is no more :/
May 03 16:43:16 <TAsn> Q-Master, no, they fixed it in e, where it was broken :P
May 03 16:43:20 <TAsn> mrmoku, really?!
May 03 16:43:22 <TAsn> mrmoku, here it works...
May 03 16:43:24 <TAsn> too weird.
May 03 16:43:37 <mrmoku> dunno if it's resume or something else... but it worked before... and now it doesn't
May 03 16:43:45 * mrmoku  restarts x
May 03 16:44:03 <Q-Master> ah
May 03 16:44:47 <mrmoku> we should write our own battery gadget too... using fso's API
May 03 16:45:49 <TAsn> mrmoku, maybe :)
May 03 16:46:16 <mrmoku> after restart quickpanel is back to working
May 03 16:46:18 * mrmoku suspends
May 03 16:46:49 <mrmoku> still working... something else then
May 03 16:47:01 * mrmoku tries to remember what he did before dinner
May 03 16:48:23 <TAsn> hm.. my battery meter is broken. :|
May 03 16:48:25 <JaMa> efl bump built
May 03 16:48:27 <mrmoku> TAsn: nvm then... 
May 03 16:48:36 <mrmoku> TAsn: switch to HAL and back to internal
May 03 16:48:38 <JaMa> here
May 03 16:48:43 <mrmoku> btw. that's the reason for
May 03 16:48:46 <TAsn> mrmoku, yeah, doing that
May 03 16:48:46 <mrmoku> 18:44 < mrmoku> we should write our own battery gadget too... using fso's API
May 03 16:48:50 <TAsn> :P
May 03 16:49:09 <mrmoku> and those sticky batget processes
May 03 16:49:44 <TAsn> hm.. quickpanel just died :(
May 03 16:49:47 <TAsn> will add a loop to it
May 03 16:49:50 <TAsn> though I wonder why it did.
May 03 16:51:23 <JaMa> TAsn: still worth pushing EFL bump?
May 03 16:51:32 <TAsn> JaMa, why not?
May 03 16:51:37 <TAsn> it includes a small fix
May 03 16:51:38 <JaMa> TAsn: or do you expect poking dh with something? :)
May 03 16:51:40 <TAsn> for quickpanels
May 03 16:51:47 <TAsn> no, i think we are fine :P
May 03 16:52:28 <JaMa> ok
May 03 16:53:01 <TAsn> JaMa, and please build shr-e-gadgets
May 03 16:53:03 <TAsn> for the 90
May 03 16:53:07 <TAsn> -> 89 fix
May 03 16:53:12 <TAsn> or is it just me using a local version?
May 03 16:53:40 <TAsn> nvm :P
May 03 16:54:17 <JaMa> TAsn: yeah
May 03 17:26:42 <TAsn> I feel so powerful with the internet on my side :P
May 03 17:26:54 <TAsn> I'm on a power trip :P
May 03 17:27:18 <spaetz> heh, welcome back to the real world
May 03 17:28:33 <TAsn> thanks.
May 03 17:28:44 <TAsn> I got to see the real world through my neighbors glasses (wifi)
May 03 17:30:03 <spaetz> ahh, at least they were so kind as not to encrypt it ;-)
May 03 17:31:24 <TAsn> even if they did, it's not an issue here
May 03 17:31:39 <TAsn> we don't really have electronic laws :P
May 03 17:31:57 <TAsn> We do, but they are stupid and old :)
May 03 17:32:15 <TAsn> So cracking the neighbors wep/wpa is probably not that illegal :P
May 03 18:05:28 <JaMa> brr my NOR somehow died probably
May 03 18:21:34 <richy> ich!
May 03 18:22:11 <richy> sry, autofocus..
May 03 18:22:36 <dos1> du!
May 03 18:24:25 <spaetz> er
May 03 18:24:51 <JaMa> sie? fur müch?
May 03 18:25:30 <JaMa> s/müch/mich/
May 03 18:25:31 <apt> JaMa meant: sie? fur mich?
May 03 18:27:40 <dos1> das ist traurig.
May 03 18:28:22 <spaetz> hehe
May 03 18:28:39 <TAsn> dos1, iirc
May 03 18:28:48 <TAsn> dos1, I promised you I'll do a thing or two
May 03 18:28:52 <TAsn> do you remember any of them?
May 03 18:31:44 <dos1> TAsn:  > and < support in opimd
May 03 18:31:52 <TAsn> oh
May 03 18:31:54 <TAsn> in a sec.
May 03 18:31:57 <dos1> TAsn: that's what i remember ;)
May 03 18:32:01 <dos1> oh
May 03 18:32:14 <dos1> mickey|zzZZzz: your fix about sms reference number in sms is wrong
May 03 18:32:28 <mickeyl> dos1: off-by-one?
May 03 18:32:43 <dos1> mickey|zzZZzz: it has to return what modem returns, not just number of messages fsogsmd already send in this session
May 03 18:33:09 <mickeyl> hmm
May 03 18:33:12 <mickeyl> what does the modem return?
May 03 18:33:19 <dos1> mickeyl: now i'm getting for instance 5 from SendTextMessage, and 38 from IncomingMessageReport about the same message
May 03 18:33:21 <mickeyl> got a log?
May 03 18:33:28 <TAsn> mickeyl, what about fsogsmd opimd push+ :P
May 03 18:33:39 <mickeyl> TAsn: midway on the todo list
May 03 18:33:50 <dos1> mickeyl: modem returns reference number from 0 to 255, but it's not limited to lifecycle
May 03 18:33:55 <TAsn> mickeyl, I don't care about the TODO, I mean, will it happen?
May 03 18:33:58 <dos1> mickeyl: it's stored somewhere (on SIM?)
May 03 18:34:00 <TAsn> In general? :P
May 03 18:34:02 <mickeyl> TAsn: sure, why not
May 03 18:34:09 <TAsn> mickeyl, super-sweet :P
May 03 18:34:14 <mickeyl> going to add sms handler plugins
May 03 18:34:19 <mickeyl> one will push stuff to opimd
May 03 18:34:48 <TAsn> I want it to push stuff to opimd, and if fails/opimd is not there, push to sim
May 03 18:37:45 <mickeyl> sounds good
May 03 18:38:02 <mickeyl> dos1: can you give me a log? i think you're right
May 03 18:38:10 * mickeyl confused two dimensions of reference numbers
May 03 18:41:32 <dos1> mickeyl: http://pastebin.com/fm8A4fks
May 03 18:41:57 <dos1> it should contain sending sms, then receiving report about it, and then receiving reply
May 03 18:45:44 <mickeyl> good
May 03 18:45:47 * mickeyl fixes
May 03 18:53:19 <elopio> perhaps somebody here can help me.
May 03 18:53:25 <elopio> On my freerunner, I broke the aux button. I have to weld the component again. In the meantime, I can  press the aux button disassembling the device and holding the component.
May 03 18:53:29 <elopio> I asked somebody to help me solding.
May 03 18:53:31 <elopio> but in the meantime, I need to set the device to boot automatically from flash.
May 03 18:53:35 <elopio> I have debian on sd card, and shr on flash.
May 03 18:53:37 <elopio> in order to boot shr I used to press the aux+power button and select the first option from boot menu.
May 03 18:53:40 <elopio> now I can't do that without dissasembling the device.
May 03 18:53:42 <elopio> is there a way to tell the freerunner to boot always from flash?
May 03 18:55:10 * mrmoku got reminded that his AUX button is broken too :/
May 03 18:55:35 <lindi-> elopio: no.
May 03 18:56:38 <lindi-> elopio: or hmm
May 03 18:56:45 <lindi-> elopio: your question was not very clear :)
May 03 18:57:03 <lindi-> elopio: so your aux button is up all the time?
May 03 18:57:42 <dos1> elopio: use /boot/append-gta02 (or something like that) to set kernel cmdline to boot from flash
May 03 18:58:16 <elopio> lindi-, I can't press the aux button without removing the front cover.
May 03 18:58:47 <lindi-> elopio: just configure your boot loader to boot from flash
May 03 18:58:59 <lindi-> dos1: er, how would that work?
May 03 18:59:06 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd8da97481d9e 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atcommand.vala atcommands.vala atmediators.vala): fsogsmd: sms: return the correct transaction_index upon sending
May 03 18:59:09 <mickeyl> dos1: please try that
May 03 18:59:17 <dos1> JaMa: bump :D
May 03 18:59:22 <elopio> lindi-, that's my quesetion. I don't know how to configure my boot loader
May 03 18:59:27 <elopio> *question
May 03 18:59:32 <lindi-> dos1: cmdline is parsed only after you have already booted from sd
May 03 18:59:38 <lindi-> elopio: what boot loader do you use?
May 03 18:59:49 <elopio> lindi-: qi.
May 03 19:00:01 <lindi-> elopio: i do not think it supports this
May 03 19:00:17 <dos1> lindi-: well, you can use kernel from sd and nand rootfs
May 03 19:00:20 <elopio> lindi-: I can get back to uboot
May 03 19:00:23 <dos1> elopio: oooh
May 03 19:00:23 <lindi-> d	sure
May 03 19:00:26 <dos1> elopio: i remember
May 03 19:00:29 <dos1> elopio: you can :)
May 03 19:00:36 <lindi-> dos1: sure
May 03 19:00:43 <dos1> elopio: /boot/noboot-GTA02
May 03 19:00:48 <dos1> or something like that, check on wiki
May 03 19:00:57 <dos1> this will make Qi ignore this partition
May 03 19:00:58 <lindi-> dos1: but that is imho not booting from nand :)
May 03 19:01:13 <dos1> save this file on every SD partition
May 03 19:01:14 <elopio> so, if I flash uboot again, then it will boot from flash?
May 03 19:01:20 <dos1> and then Qi will boot from flash
May 03 19:01:41 <elopio> dos1, ok. I look for something like that on the wiki.
May 03 19:01:53 <dos1> elopio: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi
May 03 19:01:59 <dos1> elopio: there is, /boot/noboot-GTA02
May 03 19:02:05 <mrmoku> elopio: as you said you press Aux+Power I thought you wood use uboot
May 03 19:02:26 <mrmoku> elopio: and dos1 is right... just 'touch /boot/noboot-GTA02' when booted to debian
May 03 19:02:35 <mrmoku> next reboot will boot to flash then
May 03 19:02:48 <elopio> mrmoku, I thought I installed qi. Now I'm not sure.
May 03 19:03:15 <dos1> aux+power is u-boot from NOR memory
May 03 19:03:16 * elopio gets a screwdriver to try to boot again :)
May 03 19:03:49 <lindi-> elopio: uboot has a menu, qi does not
May 03 19:04:11 * mrmoku builds shr-lite-image with IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER = "systemd" :-)
May 03 19:04:45 <elopio> ok, wait...
May 03 19:04:53 <elopio> how do I know if I have uboot or qi?
May 03 19:07:50 <TAsn> dos1, sorry for the time it took me, had to eat :P
May 03 19:07:55 <TAsn> it's there though.
May 03 19:08:09 <JaMa> dos1: please try that before bump :)
May 03 19:08:29 <dos1> JaMa: i don't have build env here...
May 03 19:09:17 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07framework * r6546323aa8f2 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO db_handler.py): opimd: Added support for < and > which mean lesser than and bigger than respectively.
May 03 19:09:18 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07framework * r01f5ef09565a 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.freesmartphone.org/framework
May 03 19:09:21 <TAsn> dos1, here you go.
May 03 19:09:50 <dos1> bump bump bump bump!
May 03 19:09:55 <dos1> cornucopia and framework :D
May 03 19:10:03 <mrmoku> try try try ;)
May 03 19:10:09 <JaMa> mrmoku: should it work? (systemd)?
May 03 19:10:19 <mrmoku> JaMa: hehe, no idea :P
May 03 19:10:26 <mrmoku> JaMa: in theory yes
May 03 19:10:37 <JaMa> heh
May 03 19:10:48 <JaMa> 5$ for breakage!
May 03 19:11:24 <mrmoku> yeah... these days $ might be more on the safe side ;)
May 03 19:13:22 <mickeyl> heh
May 03 19:13:24 <mickeyl> :(
May 03 19:13:32 <mickeyl> i almost stopped reading newspaper
May 03 19:13:35 <mickeyl> only crap
May 03 19:13:40 <mickeyl> catastrophies all around
May 03 19:13:42 <mickeyl> violence
May 03 19:13:44 <mickeyl> stupid people
May 03 19:13:47 <mickeyl> *sigh*
May 03 19:14:10 <mrmoku> heh yes :(
May 03 19:14:14 <dos1> mrmoku: please, bump, i need all possible fixes today
May 03 19:14:23 <TAsn> dos1, remind me
May 03 19:14:25 <dos1> mrmoku: as from tommorow i'll be offline for 5 days
May 03 19:14:32 <TAsn> what do you need what I changed for?
May 03 19:14:43 <dos1> TAsn: < and >?
May 03 19:14:46 <dos1> TAsn: opimd-dates
May 03 19:14:55 <mrmoku> dos1: let me try if it works
May 03 19:15:15 <TAsn> dos1, elaborate please.
May 03 19:15:42 <dos1> TAsn: event has stored Begin and End timestamps
May 03 19:15:57 <TAsn> i c.
May 03 19:16:09 <TAsn> btw, I don't think I'll ever support <= and => :P
May 03 19:16:20 <TAsn> Just because it's terribly annoying !
May 03 19:16:37 <TAsn> breaks the 1char prefix
May 03 19:16:40 <TAsn> we used until now.
May 03 19:16:54 <dos1> well, Timestamp is integer, isn't it?
May 03 19:17:00 <TAsn> yes.
May 03 19:17:06 <dos1> then >Begin:10 <==> >=Begin:11
May 03 19:17:16 <TAsn> not quite.
May 03 19:17:19 <TAsn> logically it's the same.
May 03 19:17:23 <TAsn> but for the API user
May 03 19:17:25 <TAsn> it looks stupid :)
May 03 19:17:36 <dos1> i mean
May 03 19:17:40 <TAsn> (having to add 1 in the head)
May 03 19:17:40 <dos1> i don't have to use >= on ints
May 03 19:17:46 <TAsn> I know you don't have to.
May 03 19:17:52 <dos1> as i can use > and value-1
May 03 19:18:03 <TAsn> yes
May 03 19:18:11 <TAsn> but won't you feel stupid having to do it?
May 03 19:18:19 <dos1> well
May 03 19:18:21 <TAsn> (calculating value-1 in your head)
May 03 19:18:21 <dos1> yes ;D
May 03 19:18:52 <dos1> TAsn: you can find some unicode characters which look like ">=" and "<=" and being one char ;DD
May 03 19:18:58 <dos1> (j/k ;])
May 03 19:19:01 <JaMa> TAsn: hehe found why pointercal.xinput fails.. there is exit call in that .sh and this is "sourced" to Xsession script
May 03 19:19:18 <JaMa> that was easy.. now omnewrotate
May 03 19:20:28 <TAsn> JaMa, :)
May 03 19:20:37 <TAsn> dos1, :)
May 03 19:22:18 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07framework * ra3b867b304ec 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py: opimd: added sanity tests for not allowing addition of fields starting with < or >.
May 03 19:25:19 <alexxy> any progres with insane env on SHR-U?
May 03 19:26:34 <JaMa> alexxy: yes, workaround pushed
May 03 19:26:42 <JaMa> NOTE: Running task 5693 of 15052
May 03 19:26:46 <JaMa> ^ still building
May 03 19:27:05 <JaMa> alexxy: can you answer what sets that / as default?
May 03 19:27:23 <alexxy> pam/shadow =)
May 03 19:27:24 <mrmoku> JaMa: keep your 5 bucks :P
May 03 19:27:39 <JaMa> alexxy: agetty sets it correctly, bash works fine after unset HOME
May 03 19:42:38 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07specs * ra08945b25fa3 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): opimd: dropped Folder refernces in messages, it's obsolete.
May 03 19:45:07 <mrmoku> dos1: ok, will test now if current frameworkd + fsogsmd works and bump then
May 03 19:52:19 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07specs * r67e8826b6995 10/html/pim-intro.html: pim-intro: Explain about < and >.
May 03 19:53:40 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07specs * r44832f91de39 10/html/pim-intro.html: pim-intro: Added < and > to the restricted prefixes list.
May 03 19:55:10 <mrmoku> | src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_htc/unsolicited.vala:86.13-86.27: error: The name `time_report' does not exist in the context of `FreeSmartphone.GSM.Network'
May 03 19:55:15 <mrmoku> dos1: ^^
May 03 19:55:31 <dos1> mickeyl: ^^^
May 03 19:55:44 <mrmoku> :P
May 03 19:55:59 <pini> Hi all,
May 03 19:56:26 <pini> does someone have a proper command for switching GPS mode from binary to nmea?
May 03 19:58:43 <pini> I guess I should be some byte sequence to pass to the ubxgen.py script from http://pustule.org/webcalendar/, but I've no idea about this sequence :/
May 03 19:59:39 <pini> oops wrong link. sorry 
May 03 19:59:53 <pini> here it is : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS
May 03 20:00:28 * pini shouldn't do two things at once
May 03 20:27:39 <valos> hello, I just flash my neo with last shr-u image, but X don't start
May 03 20:28:02 <valos> I have this error ==> /etc/rc5.d/S01xserver-nodm: line 206: xinit: not found
May 03 20:29:45 <valos> any hint ?
May 03 20:34:49 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rf8af1a9dd94f 10/fsoinitd/ (24 files in 3 dirs): fsoinitd: initial import
May 03 20:34:51 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r1a9d3b34d258 10/fsoinitd/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsoinitd: move all actions into own directory
May 03 20:34:52 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r8709ee51a88f 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atcommand.vala atcommands.vala atmediators.vala): Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.freesmartphone.org/cornucopia
May 03 20:37:11 <valos> found, package xinit is not installed
May 03 20:37:32 <TAsn> valos, that's usually what "xinit: not found" means :P
May 03 20:37:58 <TAsn> that's the issue though, probably a missing dep.
May 03 20:38:04 <valos> ;-) if you know that xinit is also a package
May 03 20:38:29 <JaMa> dep is there
May 03 20:38:39 * JaMa checking why it's not in package :/
May 03 20:49:09 <TAsn> hm.. missed calls don't show in idle screen :|
May 03 20:51:56 <JaMa> valos: thanks for clear report, fixed
May 03 21:08:30 <TAsn> mrmoku, btw, internal doesn't work.
May 03 21:08:38 <TAsn> there's that 66% issue :|
May 03 21:08:43 <TAsn> Like when using HAL.
May 03 21:08:48 <TAsn> nyhow, night.
May 03 21:32:16 <mickeyl> rebuild specs  &  libfso-glib
May 03 21:33:41 <mrmoku> mickeyl: heh, ok :)
May 03 21:35:40 <mickeyl> i should probably make libfso-glib versioning match the one from fso-specs
May 03 21:35:55 <mickeyl> and likewise depend on the actual libfso-glib versioning then
May 03 21:36:26 <mickeyl> to make sure it doesn't build when dependencies are not met
May 03 21:39:09 <TAsn> mickeyl, is libfso-glib binary compatible between versions?
May 03 21:39:15 <TAsn> lfg wasn't
May 03 21:39:30 <TAsn> (I'm not talking about added/removed functions)
May 03 21:39:41 <TAsn> (But about user allocated structures, if any)
May 03 21:40:25 <mickeyl> hmm, i'm not sure, since i have no idea how vala transformation may change
May 03 21:40:38 <mickeyl> vala may chose to change structure alignment / offsets and what not in a new version
May 03 21:40:55 <mickeyl> so even without bumping the revision, we can't really guarantee binary compatibility
May 03 21:41:01 <mickeyl> (unless we freeze vala)
May 03 21:42:23 <TAsn> let me start by saying this is *VERY* bad.
May 03 21:42:25 <TAsn> :)
May 03 21:42:48 <TAsn> And continue by saying, this is not *very* bad because bumps will be very rare.
May 03 21:42:57 <TAsn> And continue again by saying it's bad :P
May 03 21:43:08 <TAsn> Well, as long as vala does all the allocations
May 03 21:43:12 <TAsn> it should be just fine.
May 03 21:43:33 <TAsn> (at least this part)
May 03 21:44:18 <TAsn> Anyhow, no binary compat is pretty bad for a lib :|
May 03 21:45:19 <TAsn> We'll have to see what we can do about it.
May 03 21:45:44 <TAsn> Again, alignment/offests/whatever shouldn't matter if libfso-glib allocates
May 03 21:45:49 <TAsn> And I have no idea if it does.
May 03 21:45:51 <TAsn> But it should.
May 03 21:47:23 <TAsn> Anyhow, night :)
May 03 22:04:58 <mrmoku> JaMa: I tested and bumped fso-specs, frameworkd and fsogsmd
May 03 22:05:08 <mrmoku> JaMa: for libfso-glib I bumped PR to trigger rebuild
May 03 22:05:23 <mrmoku> though dos1 is not here anymore :P
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