**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 15 02:59:57 2010
May 15 09:38:45 <Khiraly> hi
May 15 09:38:48 <Khiraly> DocScrutinizer: ping
May 15 09:39:00 <DocScrutinizer> pong
May 15 10:14:44 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r14ab41690c4d 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atmediators.vala: 
May 15 10:14:44 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: include terminal response in result for org.freesmartphone.GSM.DebugCommand
May 15 10:14:44 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: Closes FSO #560
May 15 10:38:05 <mickey|zzZZzz> max_posedon: spaetz: A couple of months ago, I decided to maintain libefl upstream.
May 15 10:50:25 <DocScrutinizer> (zzZZzz as well) hi mickey|zzZZzz !
May 15 10:51:21 <mickey|zzZZzz> mornign doc
May 15 10:51:23 <mickey|zzZZzz> how's life?
May 15 10:58:15 <DocScrutinizer> mickeyl: hmm, kinda ambivalent. ditched OM complitely somewhat, in favour of gaining suspicious fame on maemo biotop
May 15 10:59:06 <DocScrutinizer> and obviously my brain starts to rot, tzztzz s/complitely/completely
May 15 10:59:23 <DocScrutinizer> must ne caused by too much Nokia ;-P
May 15 11:00:55 <DocScrutinizer> mybe as my subconscous knowning of tha fact, I'm so reluctant to hire for a senior EE at Tampere
May 15 11:01:10 <DocScrutinizer> or it's just because I don't like the waether there
May 15 11:02:52 <lindi-> you are going to work in Tampere? For what company?
May 15 11:03:13 <lindi-> s/in/at/
May 15 11:03:14 <apt> lindi- meant: you are goatg to work in Tampere? For what company?
May 15 11:03:24 <DocScrutinizer> yesterday I published a few cmdlines to enable charging the battery when their blob BatteryManagementEntity was stopped - go figure the excitement (FUD at it's best ;-P)
May 15 11:04:09 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: Not yet. Couldn't make up my mind to apply for the job - Nokia senior EE for meego devices
May 15 11:05:01 <lindi-> it's very warm here at the moment:  http://outside.hut.fi/
May 15 11:05:32 <DocScrutinizer> darn, much better than here
May 15 11:05:53 <DocScrutinizer> <8°C last night
May 15 11:07:21 <DocScrutinizer> anyway, have to run. Good old friend waiting for me, and I'm already late
May 15 11:30:22 <mickeyl> ok, cu
May 15 11:56:21 <mrmoku> vanous123: if you have time... please update and tell me if the GPRS status indicator is better now :)
May 15 12:01:53 <CIA-36> SHR: 03mok 07phonefsod * rc01f2eb0eb79 10/src/ (phonefsod-fso.c phonefsod-globals.h phonefsod.c): remember SIM auth is needed and retry when phoneuid appears on the bus
May 15 12:17:29 <khiraly1> hi
May 15 12:17:32 <khiraly1> DocScrutinizer ping
May 15 14:29:47 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r14d88b6d7031 10/fsogsmd/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: provide modem-specific ways for rejecting incoming calls
May 15 14:31:06 <mrmoku> mickeyl: thanks :)
May 15 14:35:17 <mickeyl> please try whether this already fixes #559
May 15 14:35:34 <mickeyl> eventually i'll implant the calypso-specific %CHLD here
May 15 14:43:16 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ok
May 15 14:43:54 * mrmoku building
May 15 15:38:34 <mrmoku> mickeyl: yep, seems to work :)
May 15 15:38:37 * mrmoku closing ticket
May 15 15:38:55 <mickeyl> ok, cool
May 15 15:46:23 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: bad news ;)
May 15 15:46:41 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: ?
May 15 15:46:45 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: the monitoring API might not have changed... but some other parts have
May 15 15:46:52 <mrmoku> SIM.Device.GetInfo is no more
May 15 15:47:27 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: and the obm client refuses to launch?
May 15 15:47:31 <mrmoku> yup
May 15 15:48:01 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: because I remember using a getinfo, but I did not remember that it was linked to SIM. namespace
May 15 15:48:06 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: ok :-(
May 15 15:48:48 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: do yo know if this is temporary missing in the API rewrite (FSO 2?), but it will be there, or is it a definitive change?
May 15 15:49:57 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: err... not SIM :P
May 15 15:50:02 <mrmoku> GSM.Device.GetInfo :)
May 15 15:50:12 <mickeyl> there is org.freesmartphone.Info.GetInfo
May 15 15:50:13 <mickeyl> and
May 15 15:50:19 <mickeyl> there is org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimInfo
May 15 15:50:26 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: well this makes more sense, but does make it more working ;)
May 15 15:51:00 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: you use it to get manufacturer, model and revision
May 15 15:51:16 <mrmoku> mickeyl: probably Info.GetInfo?
May 15 15:51:38 <mickeyl> yes
May 15 15:51:49 <mickeyl> mickey@saphir:~$ mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device  org.freesmartphone.Info.GetInfo
May 15 15:51:49 <mickeyl> ( { "revision": "GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko11", "imei": "354651011601806", "model": "Neo1973 GTA01/GTA02 Embedded GSM Modem", "manufacturer": "FIC/OpenMoko" } )
May 15 15:51:50 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: yep. this is a definitve change?
May 15 15:52:04 <onen|openBmap> mickeyl: yes this is what I use
May 15 15:52:14 <mrmoku> mickeyl: so just using the correct interface... good :)
May 15 15:52:15 <onen|openBmap> mickeyl: I mean, the data I use
May 15 15:52:16 * mrmoku tries
May 15 15:52:20 <mickeyl> mickey@saphir:~$ mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device  org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimInfo
May 15 15:52:20 <mickeyl> ( { "slots": 20, "issuer": "unknown", "imsi": "262074080573633", "phonebooks": "emergency aux:BD fixed aux:DC dialed received aux:LR aux:MT aux:AD contacts aux:SD missed aux:LM aux:AF own aux:UD", "used": 3 } )
May 15 15:52:59 <onen|openBmap> mickeyl: no these are very much SIM related. I use the former, to have a trace of the GSM chipset, firmware revision, for logging
May 15 15:53:33 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: yep, works
May 15 15:53:46 <mrmoku> at least main window loads now :P
May 15 15:53:55 <mrmoku> and shows a CellId
May 15 15:53:58 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku:  :)
May 15 15:54:33 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: I can check that for next release, that I hope to bring at the end of this month
May 15 15:54:51 <mrmoku> ok
May 15 15:54:55 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: before releasing, I will upgrade my SHR. then do the usual tests
May 15 15:55:35 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: meanwhile we will probably patch it then :)
May 15 15:55:38 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: do you know when did this api change occur?
May 15 15:55:54 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: yes, I think this is the best
May 15 15:56:05 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: besides, it most probably very much work
May 15 15:56:23 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: dictionary result, same entries name, shoudl just work
May 15 15:56:27 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: it came with the switch to fosgsmd
May 15 15:56:46 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: how old it that swithc?
May 15 15:57:04 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: it's 1 or 2 weeks we use it in SHR-U
May 15 15:57:12 <onen|openBmap> I see
May 15 15:58:28 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: thinking about it, this info does nto change during execution. As such it should be gatherered at boot time, and not anymore
May 15 15:58:35 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: I check it right now
May 15 15:58:39 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: and come back to you
May 15 15:58:46 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap: even better :)
May 15 16:01:02 * mrmoku is going to a trip into the Schwarzwald in two weeks and might as well try to catch some nice cells :)
May 15 16:05:35 <Kensan> how much space is needed for running a standard SHR distro?
May 15 16:05:45 <Kensan> 8 gigs should be enough, no?
May 15 16:15:47 <mrmoku> Kensan: running in the sense of building?
May 15 16:17:09 <Kensan> mrmoku: no, I mean the size of the sd hard I'll be putting the distro on.
May 15 16:17:35 <mrmoku>  179        1     768024 mmcblk0p1
May 15 16:18:00 <mrmoku> Kensan: and yes... 8GB should be enough :P
May 15 16:19:01 <Kensan> mrmoku: alright, I am just about to order a new microsd card so that's good to know. 32 gig is still a bit expensive
May 15 16:19:44 <mrmoku> Kensan: I have an 8GB one... with two 750MB partitions for systems and a big data one
May 15 16:19:59 <mrmoku> and never ran out of disk space so far
May 15 16:21:57 <Kensan> mrmoku: ok, sounds good. 8gb cards are really cheap it seems.
May 15 16:42:14 <khiraly1> re
May 15 16:42:17 <khiraly1> DocScrutinizer: ping
May 15 17:18:24 <mickeyl> anyone ever seen some specs for configuration SMSes?
May 15 17:23:30 <mickeyl> JesusMcCloud: it's probably buried deep inside the 3gpp specs
May 15 17:23:41 <JesusMcCloud-lt> hmmm
May 15 17:23:44 <mickeyl> the configuration sms i got contain some readable text for URIs and such
May 15 17:23:50 <mickeyl> but also some binary parts
May 15 17:24:15 <mickeyl>     {   'content': '.........V.....Y..:..http://mobile.alice-dsl.de......Alice.Internet........U..6..w4......Alice.MMS...9..id5...4..http://10.81.0.7:8002/....',
May 15 17:24:29 <mickeyl> '.' being values < 32 && > 127
May 15 17:24:43 <JesusMcCloud-lt> this the conf for mms/wap ?
May 15 17:24:58 <mickeyl> yep
May 15 17:25:51 <JesusMcCloud-lt> k, u want me to let my crrier send me a conf sms for wap/mms?
May 15 17:33:56 <Kensan> mickeyl: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2404907/mobile-phone-configuration-via-sms
May 15 17:34:02 <Kensan> mickeyl: not much...
May 15 17:43:53 * spaetz admits he did not take his FR with him to the US.
May 15 17:44:14 <spaetz> I really need to get the call quality improved first.
May 15 17:44:20 <[Rui]> spaetz: I did, it was the only I had which would work there...
May 15 17:44:56 <spaetz> I wonder if using a bluetooth headset is easy nowadays, that would fix the buzz too, right?
May 15 17:45:12 <spaetz> when I tried back then it was very much fiddeling
May 15 17:45:39 <lindi-> spaetz: easy?
May 15 17:45:40 <spaetz> [Rui]: I bought a prepaid phone for 10$
May 15 17:45:41 <[Rui]> spaetz: I don't think it has changed much, yet.
May 15 17:46:03 <spaetz> lindi-: it was a pain to get a headset connected about a year ago.
May 15 17:46:14 <spaetz> not something I wanted to do regularly.
May 15 17:46:14 <lindi-> spaetz: afaik it is just impossible with some headsets
May 15 17:46:48 <spaetz> lindi-: right, that was one of the issues that I did not know if my headset was supported or if I was doing things wrong.
May 15 17:46:54 <Kensan> mickeyl: kannel.org has support for ota it seems
May 15 17:47:00 <spaetz> I think, I managed to pair it in the end.
May 15 17:50:40 <[Rui]> I just need to find someone good enough to do me the #1024 locally.
May 15 17:50:49 <[Rui]> and possible the bass rework as well.
May 15 17:51:20 <[Rui]> sending it to Nick and back is not only expensive but would also leave me phone-less :)
May 15 17:54:05 <spaetz> I don't really want to spend 40€ plus shipping for my fixes either. 
May 15 17:59:16 <mrmoku|tv> mickeyl: http://www.forum.nokia.com/Technology_Topics/Mobile_Technologies/Messaging/Short_Messaging/FAQ.xhtml
May 15 18:03:19 <mrmoku|tv> mickeyl: probably better http://www.csoft.co.uk/documents/sms3_0_0.pdf
May 15 18:05:10 <mickeyl> that looks interesting
May 15 18:06:24 <mickeyl> eventually I'd like to add support for all kinds of these messages
May 15 18:06:47 <mickeyl> the control SMS when receiving a MMS looks interesting as well
May 15 18:07:21 <mrmoku|tv> :)
May 15 18:20:03 <mickeyl> hmm, app-dest: 2948, app-source: 9200, 8bit: 0
May 15 18:20:28 <mickeyl> aaha
May 15 18:39:32 <mickeyl> content = \u0006\u0005\u0004\u000b\x84#\xf0a\u0006"application/vnd.wap.mms-message\xaf\x84\x8c\x82\x98kphEDAOcyB\x8d\x90\x89\u0019\x80+491702720003/TYPE=PLMN\x8a\x80\x8e\u0002a\xa8\x88\u0005\x81\u0003\u0003\xf4y\x83http://10.81.0.7:8002/kphEDAOcyB
May 15 18:51:38 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1b0bd17b2197 10/fsogsmd/ (src/lib/fsogsm3rdparty.vapi tests/testsms.vala): fsogsmd: first work towards binary SMS support
May 15 19:25:15 <khiraly1> hm
May 15 19:38:50 <khiraly1> DocScrutinizer51: ping
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May 15 22:07:58 <dcordes> NOTE: Angstrom DOES NOT support fso-apm because regular apmd is good enough
May 15 22:10:54 <dcordes> what's up with that? is fso-apm still used in the uptodate shr code?
May 15 22:18:37 <TAsn> mrmoku|away, bad news concerning my (already short) dev time: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_steam_announcement&num=1
May 15 22:18:39 <TAsn> mrmoku|away, sorry :P
May 15 22:19:41 <TAsn> night all.
May 15 22:31:27 <zub> ERR:elementary elm_widget.c:254 elm_widget_sub_object_del() removing sub object 0x14b6c8 from parent 0x5d5f0, but elm-parent is different 0x114bb8!
May 15 22:31:48 <zub> what is the cause?
May 15 22:31:55 <zub> I'm playing with libphone-ui-sh
May 15 22:32:16 <zub> I get this even with simply calling ui_utils_dialog()
May 15 22:33:14 <zub> bacially, there's an elm_win_inwin_add(), then some widgets added. On button callback evas_object_del(that_inwin) is called
May 15 22:33:23 <zub> it'
May 15 23:23:08 <gena2x> hi all, anyone have working setup of bluetooth handsfee in qtmoko?
May 15 23:24:43 <gena2x> :(
May 15 23:35:28 <spaetz> or in SHR for that matter?
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