**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 18 02:59:57 2010 Jun 18 09:01:30 JaMa, hi, I see you did a change to xf86-video-glamo too. Did you ever get a runtime dynamic linking error with it ? Jun 18 09:02:52 JaMa, something like: dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/glamo_drv.so: undefined symbol: GlamoKMSAdjustFrame Jun 18 09:06:11 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Jun 18 09:09:01 i recently bought a generic wallcharger for the freerunner, unfortunately the fr does not get any power from it. is there anything, that fixes this? Jun 18 09:14:08 playa isn't encryption good for smartphones? Jun 18 09:19:47 Azog: how did you measure this? Jun 18 09:19:59 Azog: on generic wallcharger the fr should charge a 100 mA and can be forced by software (ex shr-settings) to 500 mA fr wall charger does 1A Jun 18 09:20:05 see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables Jun 18 09:21:06 lindi-: the battery-icon does not change Jun 18 09:26:46 cz_jc: haven't checked for a while, but could it be you're missing libdrm-glamo? just grep through where such a function should be. Jun 18 09:27:34 also, search for include errors in the error output, if it doesn't find some of those drm-glamo headers Jun 18 09:30:53 Azog: don't trust icons :) Jun 18 09:31:27 lindi-: is there a way to find out if the fr is charging? something in /sys? Jun 18 09:32:18 Azog: look for change in "om battery consumption" or "mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/ Device/PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo" Jun 18 09:32:39 lindi-: thank you, i try it, when i am back at home Jun 18 09:35:35 cz_jc: I don't remember seeing it, but as Mirv said I guess you don't have patched libdrm Jun 18 11:03:50 JaMa, nope.. we do have libdrm patched with the glamo stuff Jun 18 11:04:06 (sorry for delay) Jun 18 11:04:39 JaMa, if I didn't have libdrm patched, I wouldn't have even compiled it. Jun 18 11:09:19 so should I nm it for you? Jun 18 11:09:46 JaMa, what ? Jun 18 11:10:42 check which lib provides this symbol for my .so (if it's used there) Jun 18 11:11:11 JaMa, oh yeah, sorry Jun 18 11:11:19 JaMa, its in xf86-video-glamo sources, not libdrm Jun 18 11:11:30 hmm directly defined Jun 18 11:11:30 SHR root@gojama ~ $ arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-nm /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/.debug/glamo_drv.so | grep GlamoKMSAdjustFrame Jun 18 11:11:34 0000618c t GlamoKMSAdjustFrame Jun 18 11:11:38 yep Jun 18 11:11:57 an you have "U" right? Jun 18 11:12:07 lemme see Jun 18 11:12:26 JaMa, this is the entire error copied as is: http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/ticket/304 Jun 18 11:12:31 JaMa, I get this when starting Xorg Jun 18 11:14:09 JaMa, I tried compilling with --enable-kms and then with --disable-kms. At first, it somehow mysteriously worked. But now it doesn't. Dunno whats that about Jun 18 11:14:36 JaMa, out of about 9 compilations, it worked in 2 I think Jun 18 11:14:49 one with --disable-kms and the other with --enable-kms Jun 18 11:14:50 can you check "nm" output? Jun 18 11:14:56 if I remember correctly Jun 18 11:15:04 JaMa, ok I'll boot up the phone and see if I have it Jun 18 11:19:12 JaMa, nm: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/glamo_drv.so: no symbols Jun 18 11:19:38 that would be bad, I guess ? Jun 18 11:23:13 cz_jc: no, it's stripped... you need to check lib before stripping Jun 18 11:23:39 JaMa, so, I'm supposed to make sure it doesn't get stripped at all then ? Jun 18 11:24:17 JaMa, well.. thanks, I'm clueless with dynamic linking. I'll read up something on the subject relating to Gentoo and try to fix it Jun 18 11:24:27 JaMa, thanks a lot for noticing my problem :) Jun 18 11:24:38 no I used the lib in .debug dir (from -dbg package), to "see" symbols Jun 18 11:24:53 JaMa, it doesn't export it ? Jun 18 11:25:08 but normal lib in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ is also stripped on my neo (and has the same symbols) Jun 18 11:25:33 JaMa, oh, so you mean I recompile xf86-video-glamo with debug and try to nm that then Jun 18 11:25:42 JaMa, ok Jun 18 11:36:04 hi Jun 18 11:36:10 hi Jun 18 11:37:25 according to the shr-manual the witch betreen apps in illume2 is done via left or right arrows available on taping top shelf, but the arrows doesn't come, so, how can i switch the apps on illume2? Jun 18 11:38:52 have you tried to restart shr_elm_softkey? Jun 18 11:44:39 cz_jc: hi, sorry, I'm in a bit of a hurry but I think I know what you are facing - the --enable-kms/--disable-kms handling is broken in xf86-video-glamo, so wrong functions maybe called Jun 18 11:45:14 I tried to find out how to fix that, but couldn't. Basically at least --disable-kms doesn't really set the variable that is #ifdef:d for later on. Jun 18 11:45:46 JaMa: now i tried, and after restart it works Jun 18 11:47:04 cz_jc: for reference, see how I disabled KMS in Debian's xf86-video-glamo http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/xf86-video-glamo.git;a=blob;f=debian/patches/02-force-kms-off.patch;h=44f34a033b2fb5ceb4c800097201a6043dbc4dff;hb=refs/heads/debian Jun 18 11:48:13 JaMa: also after reboot, i have an eye on it Jun 18 11:48:40 JaMa, http://pastebin.org/338717 Jun 18 11:48:56 Mirv, aah perfect, thanks :) Jun 18 11:49:32 Mirv, will you be ok if I appended your patch to Gentoo (with attribution of couse) if it works ? Jun 18 11:51:03 cz_jc: feel free Jun 18 11:51:11 carcinoma: it's because you have only 10s to finish first time wizard (to have shr_elm_softkey working) as said on ML.. :/ Jun 18 11:54:49 cz_jc: did you notice, that this patch actually disables KMS and whole patch is just removing this one, right? Jun 18 11:55:21 cz_jc: so for +kms USE you shouldn't used it, if I read it right Jun 18 11:56:24 for enabling one might want to see if something opposite (removing ifdef:s altogether) is needed :) Jun 18 11:56:42 it might be environment specific or something, corner cases of autotools variables Jun 18 11:56:54 never figured it out so just did forcing eventually Jun 18 11:58:49 * JaMa thinks that best way would be check/fix ENABLE_KMS settings and send Thomas patch with added ifdefs Jun 18 12:02:43 * Mirv agrees Jun 18 12:03:48 and it looks like it's defined here with --enable-kms OK Jun 18 12:16:28 JaMa, yep, I agree too Jun 18 12:25:22 hi, does someone where is mickeyl or what is he doing? I hope he didn't abandon FSO totally Jun 18 12:26:07 GNUtoo|laptop, he's quite busy with his daily work Jun 18 12:26:29 ok Jun 18 12:26:38 so he didn't abandon totally FSO? Jun 18 12:27:56 should I dig into FSO and make the suspend plugin for the htcdream myself? Jun 18 12:28:00 GNUtoo|laptop: you seem to have fear the last time Jun 18 12:28:06 that you would get abandoned Jun 18 12:28:18 did you get abandoned yourself resently? Jun 18 12:28:23 ? Jun 18 12:28:35 no I'm waiting for mickeyl Jun 18 12:28:41 oh, ok Jun 18 12:28:41 I need that suspend plugin Jun 18 12:28:47 ahh, I see Jun 18 12:28:53 and I bet he needs my help too on kernel side Jun 18 12:29:03 you're just in hurry to get it working Jun 18 12:29:04 i see Jun 18 12:29:27 well i can come to you too, as soon as I got the issue with you gnuyfication Jun 18 12:29:27 I've also other things to do,so while mickeyl is not there I do them(study for exams,openembedded etc...) Jun 18 12:29:37 yes Jun 18 12:29:45 I've also exams in two months Jun 18 12:30:02 now I'm doing a git bisect,compiling each time from scratch Jun 18 12:30:12 because an oe commit broke MACHINE_EXTRA_RECOMMANDS for me Jun 18 12:30:19 ohh, ok Jun 18 12:30:19 the modules are not included in the image Jun 18 12:31:14 basically I think I can't even use the phone anymore with the lack of suspend handling in userland Jun 18 12:31:33 next step would be to fix audio buffer underrun etc... Jun 18 12:31:39 if Thringol is there Jun 18 12:31:43 I've to catch him Jun 18 12:31:55 GNUtoo|laptop: btw, how do you compile ~/utilities/android/rpc for arm? Jun 18 12:32:07 bitbake it Jun 18 12:32:17 ohh, ok Jun 18 12:32:18 there is a recipe for gps Jun 18 12:32:20 it's in oe Jun 18 12:32:25 I don't remember the name tough Jun 18 12:32:33 I've the link Jun 18 12:32:46 ok Jun 18 12:33:06 http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/htcdream/htcdream-gps_git.bb Jun 18 12:33:22 whats wrong with it btw? Jun 18 12:33:28 before I begin :-) Jun 18 12:33:31 I don't remember Jun 18 12:33:36 ok Jun 18 12:33:45 its for initialising GPS? Jun 18 12:33:53 I think so I'll look Jun 18 12:34:01 nand is finished? Jun 18 12:34:16 I think it's for gps Jun 18 12:34:18 I can only use read only Jun 18 12:34:39 ok, is there really no way to make it write? Jun 18 12:34:44 uhm Jun 18 12:34:49 somehow DMA denies Jun 18 12:34:56 without any visible reason Jun 18 12:34:57 ok Jun 18 12:35:01 the adress is ok Jun 18 12:35:06 look for macros,use gdb etc... Jun 18 12:35:06 the write size is ok Jun 18 12:35:12 hmm Jun 18 12:35:14 by gdb I mean only to inspect vmlinux Jun 18 12:35:20 hmm Jun 18 12:35:25 there are also patches Jun 18 12:35:28 for function tracer Jun 18 12:35:39 and they apply well in our kernel Jun 18 12:35:54 I think they are in elinux wiki Jun 18 12:36:04 it try's to open a DMA buffer on a valid page adress, with valid block size Jun 18 12:36:12 but somehow it fails to aquire the space Jun 18 12:36:22 and gets a NULL pointer exception Jun 18 12:36:26 ok Jun 18 12:36:28 this error makes NO sense Jun 18 12:36:33 not shure Jun 18 12:36:49 is size really valid Jun 18 12:36:53 also look at how it works Jun 18 12:36:59 2048 bytes Jun 18 12:37:00 that is to say at 2 levels: Jun 18 12:37:01 its a page Jun 18 12:37:03 *the function Jun 18 12:37:10 *and the hardware/theory Jun 18 12:38:25 I know Jun 18 12:38:46 I've got the datasheet open here Jun 18 12:38:53 ok Jun 18 12:39:10 thats the reason why I was so fast with writing this functionality Jun 18 12:39:12 but... Jun 18 12:39:15 its such a crap Jun 18 12:39:20 I dunno why it does that Jun 18 12:39:25 ok Jun 18 12:39:31 maybe ask in a mailing list Jun 18 12:39:35 like the msm one Jun 18 12:39:45 I did Jun 18 12:39:52 there came no answer Jun 18 12:39:57 ok Jun 18 12:40:13 I don't know anything about this stuff Jun 18 12:40:35 so if I had to help we'll spend a lot of time getting me started Jun 18 12:41:33 ok Jun 18 12:42:01 I'm try'n to make it work now Jun 18 12:42:04 hope it works Jun 18 12:42:25 * leviathan is try'n random stuff Jun 18 12:42:29 -.- Jun 18 12:42:32 Good morning Jun 18 12:42:39 Shosholoza: good morning Jun 18 12:43:08 I am crazy for my freerunner Jun 18 12:43:17 * leviathan even if its 14.43h here: I'm still drinking coffee, so its morning ^^ Jun 18 12:43:34 Shosholoza: whats the problem Jun 18 12:44:14 when I connect with gprs my FR send and receive random byte Jun 18 12:44:20 ahhh Jun 18 12:44:27 you're it really Jun 18 12:44:27 yes I am Jun 18 12:44:33 I waitet for you ;-) Jun 18 12:44:35 ok Jun 18 12:44:41 first try Jun 18 12:44:49 what distro do you have? Jun 18 12:44:51 SHR? Jun 18 12:45:07 yes Jun 18 12:45:19 well next step Jun 18 12:45:28 do you think if i reinstall my shr problem resolve? Jun 18 12:45:31 do you have your freerunner connected over usb? Jun 18 12:45:38 Shosholoza: yes Jun 18 12:45:47 it would very likely solve the problem finaly Jun 18 12:45:54 because then you have default config Jun 18 12:45:55 :-) Jun 18 12:45:56 I am in the office and i don't connect my FR Jun 18 12:46:01 oh, ok Jun 18 12:46:06 sure Jun 18 12:47:17 It is the fast mode to resolve i think Jun 18 12:47:34 yes Jun 18 12:47:37 just backup it Jun 18 12:47:47 in settings you have the backup function Jun 18 12:47:58 and remember to save all contacts on your sim card Jun 18 12:48:33 if I use the script with org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext for the connection are correct? Jun 18 12:48:46 uhm Jun 18 12:48:50 I use shr settings Jun 18 12:48:54 connectivity Jun 18 12:48:55 :-) Jun 18 12:49:11 how old is your SHR anyway? Jun 18 12:49:33 I guess a never installation might be good for you anyway Jun 18 12:50:25 5-6 week Jun 18 12:50:55 in the last shr settings are ok? Jun 18 12:54:10 I'm using SHR even on my htcdream ;-) Jun 18 12:54:41 Shosholoza: they have unified suspend behaviour now Jun 18 12:54:48 there are some people in my university Jun 18 12:54:56 which have also freerunners Jun 18 12:55:10 I've supported them with installation of newest images Jun 18 12:55:17 they were quite surprised Jun 18 12:55:32 but lately the builds got a bit unstable again Jun 18 12:55:34 anyway Jun 18 12:55:38 we are working on it Jun 18 12:55:39 :-) Jun 18 12:55:56 connectivity anyways works great Jun 18 12:59:33 GNUtoo|laptop: I just disabled writing of a single block Jun 18 12:59:41 lets see if it fucks up now sooner Jun 18 12:59:42 if yes Jun 18 12:59:45 ok Jun 18 12:59:53 I just explicitly disable this start adress xD Jun 18 13:02:08 it just fucks up for this start adress Jun 18 13:02:11 and I dunno why Jun 18 13:02:12 ... Jun 18 13:02:34 ohh Jun 18 13:02:38 the graphics Jun 18 13:02:43 theres a page jump Jun 18 13:02:45 >_ Jun 18 13:02:47 >_< Jun 18 13:02:59 its GND Jun 18 13:06:22 carcinoma: seems like you're going to mess your image with my gcc-4.5 build ipks? Jun 18 13:07:30 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Jun 18 13:07:33 carcinoma: expecting you're the guy behind 213.160.5.1xx Jun 18 13:07:35 no oops anymor Jun 18 13:07:38 :-) Jun 18 13:07:47 wow Jun 18 13:07:48 ok Jun 18 13:08:22 hmm whois confirmed it :) Jun 18 13:13:10 GNUtoo|laptop: its just an ugly hack Jun 18 13:13:18 and doesnt solve under ly'n problem Jun 18 13:13:24 ah ok Jun 18 13:13:29 I guess, I do calculate the offset wrong Jun 18 13:13:54 unsigned long r_offset = (unsigned long)(((unsigned long)from)%((unsigned long)(mtd->writesize))); Jun 18 13:14:04 I fear thats the problem Jun 18 13:25:43 anybody know how to fix this: navit:plugin_load:can't load '/usr/lib/navit/graphics/libgraphics_qt_qpainter.so', Error '/usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4: symbol sinf, version GLIBCXX_3.4 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference'? Jun 18 13:26:10 got navit from jama's repo Jun 18 13:27:07 carcinoma, carcinoma: seems like you're going to mess your image with my gcc-4.5 build ipks? Jun 18 13:28:50 playya: any other way to get current qt? Jun 18 13:34:53 carcinoma: I don't know how much you have opkg upgraded from my feed.. but using image half-upgraded from it is insane Jun 18 13:35:04 Good news :) Thank you leviathan for your help I reinstall shr. Jun 18 13:35:16 ok Jun 18 13:35:36 carcinoma: it was quite safe as long as you were using navit+qt from it.. now I see you had newer libstdc++ and tons of other stuff.. Jun 18 13:36:22 carcinoma: also all git version are not consistent with versions from shr buildhost.. Jun 18 13:40:13 JaMa: i could not use your repo together with shr-u image? Jun 18 13:41:17 JaMa: first i tried only navit+qt got this error, then i upgrade the whole thing, same error Jun 18 13:43:36 no my repo is not completely compatible with std shr-u image (different kernel, gcc, flags, ...) Jun 18 13:43:57 carcinoma: qt 4.6.2 and similar version of navit is now available also in shr-u feeds Jun 18 13:45:19 JaMa: i can install navit+qt stuff from shr-u feed? with qml? Jun 18 13:45:33 carcinoma: if you really need 4.7.0 then you can reflash with mine image and upgrade from my feed (but I don't guarantee it will be available everytime) Jun 18 13:45:40 qml is only with 4.7.0 Jun 18 13:46:27 or you can build it yourself from http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental Jun 18 13:48:01 JaMa: yay, builds are always faild at my machine, i think i try your image Jun 18 13:48:45 JaMa: where to find? Jun 18 13:56:11 http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/ Jun 18 13:56:51 carcinoma: full images are much bigger than std shr-u Jun 18 13:58:32 JaMa: cause of debugging symbols? Jun 18 13:58:52 no cause of extra stuff I use Jun 18 13:59:59 JaMa: ok, i wat to use navit with qt rederer, cause its faster than gtk, maybe later i wat to work on qml interface, what image should i use now? Jun 18 14:02:56 std shr-u with qt-4.6.2 and navit from std feeds Jun 18 14:08:14 JaMa: hmmm. gcc-4.5. interesting. can you feel difference? Jun 18 14:34:51 gena2x: yes I have few more benchmarks then what is published here.. http://sakrah.dontexist.org/ Jun 18 14:35:04 gena2x: but lto is not globally enabled Jun 18 14:36:34 gena2x: here is the rest of benchmarks http://pastebin.ca/1885787 Jun 18 14:52:36 nice "Because of the above it was not possible to wake the chip from ELP power saving mode, PM had to be disabled to have the driver usable in SDIO mode. After this patch PM is functional." (wl1251+htcdream) Jun 18 15:03:43 GNUtoo|laptop: http://ftp.o2s.ch/80-VA736-2-MSM7200-SoftwareInterface.pdf Jun 18 15:03:47 look at this Jun 18 15:03:56 NAND is somewhat of broken Jun 18 15:04:01 btw Jun 18 15:04:06 gps might also be in there Jun 18 15:04:07 its nice Jun 18 15:04:12 full of tables of adresses Jun 18 15:04:14 ^^ Jun 18 15:04:16 leviathan, ah the forbidden docs Jun 18 15:04:22 yes :-) Jun 18 15:04:25 ok Jun 18 15:04:42 I'll use that only if I really need it Jun 18 15:04:53 http://ftp.o2s.ch/80-VE263-25-MSM7200A-BasebandTopics.pdf Jun 18 15:04:59 theres also another Jun 18 15:05:02 :-) Jun 18 15:05:50 I mean I did something in two days Jun 18 15:05:56 they did not manage to do Jun 18 15:06:09 from production of the prototype until the selling in on the market Jun 18 15:06:19 they can give the docs to us in the future Jun 18 15:06:29 we will do official code Jun 18 15:06:35 in upstream Jun 18 15:06:44 wouldn't it be a much better way? Jun 18 15:06:57 I would love to work with the engineers of these companies Jun 18 15:07:02 and do usefull drivers Jun 18 15:07:08 which are upstream usable Jun 18 15:07:17 instead of hacking on already lost driver code Jun 18 15:07:27 to give it nearly usable functionality Jun 18 15:07:28 ... Jun 18 15:08:54 JaMa: thanks. nice that it is different quite much. +15% for fork/exec is nice +30% for shell is amazing. but why drystone is different?.. - i thought it is something like arithmetic test. Jun 18 15:19:56 we need a wikileaks for hardware documentation Jun 18 15:21:23 ha Jun 18 15:22:17 go hack Thomas computer for glamo pdf :) Jun 18 15:29:51 wikileak can already be used fo hardware, wern't the calypso doc on it ? Jun 18 15:29:56 mhh no, it was cryptome Jun 18 15:36:46 playya, lol Jun 18 15:38:37 btw is there some good SIP/jingle client that would run on the freerunner/palm-pre/htcdream ? Jun 18 15:39:12 afair no Jun 18 15:39:36 ?= in OE is called lazy asignment isn't it? Jun 18 15:39:53 playya: yes Jun 18 15:40:19 playya: but it's names weak assignment Jun 18 15:40:28 playya: so I hope it's the same what you mean :) Jun 18 15:40:57 amending commit Jun 18 15:41:06 playya: ?= assigns only when the var is still empty Jun 18 15:41:38 i know how it works, but i needed the name for a commit Jun 18 15:41:55 ah then weak is better Jun 18 15:42:00 AFAIK Jun 18 15:42:07 grep manual Jun 18 15:45:22 ??= is lazy Jun 18 15:45:26 GNUtoo|laptop: linphone? Jun 18 15:45:59 ok, it has a good GUI? Jun 18 15:46:04 or should a GUI be made Jun 18 15:46:20 I bet that ekiga will be problematic with the small screen of theses devices Jun 18 15:47:16 GNUtoo|laptop: it has some gui, yes, and one can make an alternative gui too, i guess. Jun 18 15:47:49 yes indeed Jun 18 15:48:12 so djbclark you know what you have to do after installing fso on your palm pre.... Jun 18 16:17:15 does your fr sometimes just get unresponsive? Jun 18 16:17:20 ie, dim changes take forever Jun 18 16:17:25 UI doesn't react to anything Jun 18 16:17:39 and everything is ~5000 times slower Jun 18 16:17:59 never Jun 18 16:18:29 * ThibG had this on SHR Jun 18 16:18:39 but that you telling about sound like heavy irq Jun 18 16:19:22 i'm on .29-nodebug Jun 18 16:19:47 not sure if it was fso or phoneui going nuts, or something lower level Jun 18 16:20:21 GNUtoo|laptop - I think the general request was just more testers would be really useful. Jun 18 16:20:30 run something which load cpu to 100% and check ui Jun 18 16:20:59 if it will be similarly unresposible - this probably userspace Jun 18 16:21:10 if not - probably at kernel side Jun 18 16:21:52 may be file io? Jun 18 16:21:55 gena2x, I strongly suspect fso/phoneuid, it did some really weird things with the message app Jun 18 16:21:57 to mmc Jun 18 16:22:29 anyway, I've nothing bootable on my FR, now :p Jun 18 16:23:22 yes. may be. i am not using fso, and do not saw such issue Jun 18 16:26:43 gena2x: not using fso? Jun 18 16:27:15 d1b: qtmoko for telephony Jun 18 16:27:23 and it doesn't use fso? Jun 18 16:27:31 d1b: yes Jun 18 16:30:50 hm, in glamo-fb.c, why do reg_{read,write} call nop()? Jun 18 16:32:03 because doing something else would be faster ;P Jun 18 16:38:19 hmm... anything interesting for us was in leaked calypso docs? Jun 18 16:39:41 prolly not Jun 18 16:39:56 they leaked? Jun 18 16:40:23 DocScrutinizer51: i read it somewhere on maillist, that they did... and now: Jun 18 16:40:25 [17:29] wikileak can already be used fo hardware, wern't the calypso doc on it ? Jun 18 16:40:27 [17:29] mhh no, it was cryptome Jun 18 16:42:39 see, if anything interesting had been in there, I'm sure they'd have leaked much earlier Jun 18 16:44:24 DocScrutinizer51: i thought they leaked two years ago Jun 18 16:44:48 I know the whole friggin 50MB and never found there's anything particularly useful in there Jun 18 16:45:51 except for guys like Dieter, and he had all the pile anyway Jun 18 16:47:46 and ony had use for it when fiddling with the hw or the om gsm stack Jun 18 17:15:37 heyho Jun 18 17:15:43 hohoho Jun 18 17:51:24 hi leviathan, at what point are you with nand? Jun 18 17:52:06 ThibG: supposedly to make the timing right, but since Glamo will just stall the bus anyway, I don't think they're necessary. maybe there's something there I'm not aware of, though Jun 18 17:52:34 hm, ok Jun 18 17:52:46 in doubt, they'll remain there :) Jun 18 17:58:12 GNUtoo|laptop: it fucks up Jun 18 17:58:20 ok Jun 18 17:58:27 when you try to write at specific pages Jun 18 17:58:28 dunno why Jun 18 17:58:33 its a fucking crap driver Jun 18 17:58:37 from beginning to end Jun 18 17:58:46 if you read the datashit Jun 18 17:58:50 uhm sheet Jun 18 17:58:59 :-) Jun 18 17:59:09 you will see, the controller itself is crap Jun 18 18:02:45 anyway Jun 18 18:02:51 we can do RO fs now Jun 18 18:03:02 which allows us to use things like squashfs Jun 18 18:03:04 or so Jun 18 18:03:27 thats sooo strange Jun 18 18:03:40 ubifs fails to write this pages Jun 18 18:04:03 somehow they must have managed to fix this specifically for yaffs2 Jun 18 18:04:13 thats sooo crap Jun 18 18:04:23 my nerves are finished Jun 18 18:04:27 two days of work Jun 18 18:04:36 to find out, the driver is worth nothing Jun 18 18:05:03 I should shoot this qualcomm people... really, rewriting the whole fucking driver set in linux-upstream would be an idea Jun 18 18:05:07 this time correctly Jun 18 18:05:11 and platform indipendent Jun 18 18:05:25 so, that we have something running for all following msm devices Jun 18 18:09:30 GNUtoo|laptop: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=arch/arm/mach-msm;h=93470f8cea0daba664a20b592d500b15b72694ef;hb=7e27d6e778cd87b6f2415515d7127eba53fe5d02 Jun 18 18:09:38 something has happened in upstream Jun 18 18:09:44 reading Jun 18 18:09:44 I do not believe my eyes Jun 18 18:09:48 can it be??? Jun 18 18:10:05 they have made it bootable with upstream conform code? Jun 18 18:10:10 I'll try it out now Jun 18 18:10:21 do you follow msm mailing list? Jun 18 18:10:58 bootable means that I need a serial console? Jun 18 18:11:22 also is it in staging? Jun 18 18:11:35 because staging is somewhat volatile Jun 18 18:11:48 hmm Jun 18 18:11:48 it can go away like android stuff if nobody fixes stuff Jun 18 18:11:58 I'll fix stuff Jun 18 18:12:02 what do you think? Jun 18 18:12:02 but even staging is so great Jun 18 18:12:17 good idea Jun 18 18:12:22 we could port our drivers into upstream Jun 18 18:12:24 alsa aso Jun 18 18:12:29 depend on how much support there is already Jun 18 18:12:33 we did a lot of work Jun 18 18:12:37 yes Jun 18 18:12:39 some of the drivers are uncommitable Jun 18 18:12:43 the sound is still buggy Jun 18 18:12:47 yes Jun 18 18:12:49 I know Jun 18 18:12:54 but better then nothing Jun 18 18:12:54 and conflicts with the one they have Jun 18 18:12:57 yes Jun 18 18:13:06 why we need android stuff in upstream? Jun 18 18:13:08 that solves a big issue Jun 18 18:13:16 if they wanna use official kernel Jun 18 18:13:23 the fact that we don't need to do this work ourselves Jun 18 18:13:23 they shall use official interfaces Jun 18 18:13:31 yes Jun 18 18:13:36 if we get it upstream Jun 18 18:13:44 we have a lot of developers participating Jun 18 18:13:48 where did you saw that it booted? Jun 18 18:13:56 I'll see it soon Jun 18 18:13:57 did you try it? Jun 18 18:14:05 i try in 45% Jun 18 18:14:07 :-) Jun 18 18:14:07 or is it written somewhere Jun 18 18:14:12 45%? Jun 18 18:14:15 does it have fb? Jun 18 18:14:16 git clone Jun 18 18:14:18 :-) Jun 18 18:14:20 ah ok Jun 18 18:14:36 I saw that they kicked board specification Jun 18 18:14:47 ??? Jun 18 18:14:57 its not board-dream Jun 18 18:14:59 anymore Jun 18 18:15:02 you mean that dream board file is not anymore in kernel Jun 18 18:15:04 theres happened something Jun 18 18:15:08 ah? Jun 18 18:15:10 board-trout.c Jun 18 18:15:13 :-) Jun 18 18:15:14 ah ok Jun 18 18:15:33 qdsp ist not there anyway Jun 18 18:15:34 the big question is : do I really need serial Jun 18 18:15:38 serial is not cheap Jun 18 18:15:42 so we have free space for our alsa driver Jun 18 18:15:46 I must order from sparkfun etc.... Jun 18 18:15:49 ok Jun 18 18:16:49 also,remember that merge window are now unpredictable Jun 18 18:17:05 so better submit the patches early Jun 18 18:17:40 ey yeahh Jun 18 18:17:46 they cleaned up a lot Jun 18 18:17:49 its wonderfull Jun 18 18:17:54 lets see, if it boots Jun 18 18:18:39 they have the msm-framebuffer support Jun 18 18:18:56 ah ok wow Jun 18 18:19:08 do they have usbnet? Jun 18 18:20:27 I'll look Jun 18 18:21:01 nope Jun 18 18:21:08 will need an import Jun 18 18:21:27 I'll check if it boots Jun 18 18:21:30 if yes Jun 18 18:21:33 usb follows Jun 18 18:21:42 and I'll send a patch to official linux ml Jun 18 18:21:54 ok Jun 18 18:22:20 uhm Jun 18 18:22:30 and sry, i ticked totaly out lately on the ML Jun 18 18:22:43 because my nerves are blank concerning NAND Jun 18 18:22:57 I guess I will do a reimplementation Jun 18 18:23:10 I've got the datasheets Jun 18 18:31:32 GNUtoo|laptop: So I'll boot it now Jun 18 18:31:36 lets hope ;-) Jun 18 18:31:55 yes Jun 18 18:34:01 it doesnt even load fbconsole Jun 18 18:34:06 I'll try some stuff Jun 18 18:36:02 cr2 I think was it, who wrote fbconsole driver Jun 18 18:36:14 some indipendent feature, which makes output Jun 18 18:36:19 or tmzt? Jun 18 18:36:22 dunno anymore Jun 18 18:36:25 I could try that one Jun 18 18:42:14 ok Jun 18 18:42:21 try to load an image Jun 18 18:46:51 Uhm, needs some missing defines Jun 18 18:46:54 an adress Jun 18 18:49:56 arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `htc_fb_console_init': Jun 18 18:49:56 htc_fb_console.c:(.init.text+0x920): undefined reference to `create_mapping' Jun 18 18:52:10 http://pastebin.com/5i38r8XF Jun 18 18:52:18 GNUtoo|laptop: should we upload it somewhere? Jun 18 18:52:33 for collegual development? Jun 18 18:52:58 leviathan, create a new branch no? Jun 18 18:53:22 why do you want to use htc_fb_console? Jun 18 18:53:27 and not fbconsole? Jun 18 18:55:15 because atm it doesnt load the console Jun 18 18:55:21 it doesnt load ANYthing Jun 18 18:55:30 its just this three robots Jun 18 18:55:35 which are on my display Jun 18 18:55:38 its booted Jun 18 18:55:40 but Jun 18 18:55:43 it doesnt load Jun 18 19:04:03 ok Jun 18 19:04:04 mmm Jun 18 19:04:10 try adding the refresh thread Jun 18 19:04:24 try entering commands Jun 18 19:04:30 without seeing what you type Jun 18 19:04:32 for instance: Jun 18 19:04:33 root Jun 18 19:04:35 init 0 Jun 18 19:13:06 Good morning at all Jun 18 19:15:52 Is there someone who can install a firewall on SHR? Jun 18 19:17:08 Shosholoza, like iptables? Jun 18 19:17:20 yes Jun 18 19:17:25 the the option to track local process? Jun 18 19:18:04 I have problem of traffic for my gprs connection Jun 18 19:18:23 I try to set a Fireall but I have an error Jun 18 19:20:14 I think I must load a module but I don't know how do it Jun 18 19:20:44 Shosholoza, ah? what's the error? Jun 18 19:23:04 No chain/target/match by that name Jun 18 19:23:27 Shosholoza: is it you that guy from the ML? Jun 18 19:23:37 yes Jun 18 19:23:42 Shosholoza: why not just use tcpdump to tell for sure what's going on? Jun 18 19:23:51 I am crazy for this problem Jun 18 19:24:58 I try this:tcpdump -v -i ppp0 Jun 18 19:25:08 Shosholoza: and? Jun 18 19:25:15 Shosholoza: more like -n Jun 18 19:27:15 Shosholoza: add -n to your tcpdump Jun 18 19:28:48 lindi-: i'm not sure how host names resolving can generatate too much additional traffic, is it really relevant? Jun 18 19:29:10 it delays otput Jun 18 19:29:20 on gprs host resolution will cause pppppaaaaaiiiiinnn Jun 18 19:29:22 especially with gprs Jun 18 19:29:58 always good idea to add -n. always... Jun 18 19:33:08 Sorry java chat was not good Jun 18 19:33:38 after few second I obtain : Jun 18 19:33:41 tcpdump: listening on ppp0, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 68 bytes Jun 18 19:33:41 19:33:06.931371 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 38, id 15160, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) Jun 18 19:33:41 217.203.187.236.1276 > 95.75.149.4.netbios-ssn: Flags [S], seq 2243638647, win 53760, options [mss 1360,[|tcp]> Jun 18 19:33:41 19:33:06.932024 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40) Jun 18 19:33:41 95.75.149.4.netbios-ssn > 217.203.187.236.1276: Flags [R.], cksum 0x650e (correct), seq 0, ack 2243638648, win 0, length 0 Jun 18 19:33:42 19:33:06.956867 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 20189, offset 0, flags [DF], proto UDP (17), length 74) Jun 18 19:33:48 etc etc Jun 18 19:34:11 samba???? Jun 18 19:34:36 on shr? Jun 18 19:34:36 after this :root@om-gta02 /etc/ppp # tcpdump -v -i ppp0 Jun 18 19:34:40 shr Jun 18 19:34:57 add -n option to your tcpdump Jun 18 19:35:05 ok Jun 18 19:35:11 and then do big log and put it to pastebin.ca Jun 18 19:35:13 I try now this Jun 18 19:35:26 better log the packet contents too Jun 18 19:35:42 Shosholoza: tcpdump -i ppp0 -n -Xs0 | netcat paste.dyndns.org 1234 Jun 18 19:35:43 if so tell him key Jun 18 19:36:23 paste.dyndns.org??? whats this? Jun 18 19:36:47 gena2x: just a forwarder for paste.debian.net Jun 18 19:37:42 with site of helsinki observatory? Jun 18 19:37:52 will send tcpdump logs to mars??? Jun 18 19:37:57 I try this tcpdump -i ppp0 -n -Xs0 | nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 Jun 18 19:38:20 I have tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode Jun 18 19:38:20 listening on ppp0, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 65535 bytes Jun 18 19:38:20 8 packets captured Jun 18 19:38:20 8 packets received by filter Jun 18 19:38:20 0 packets dropped by kernel Jun 18 19:38:54 with ifconfig RX bytes:2548 (2.4 KiB) TX bytes:690 (690.0 B) Jun 18 19:39:11 less than one minutes !! Jun 18 19:39:36 :( Jun 18 19:39:36 gena2x: heh Jun 18 19:40:51 RX bytes:2782 (2.7 KiB) TX bytes:916 (916.0 B) Jun 18 19:41:53 Shosholoza: won't help much Jun 18 19:42:21 Do you know how load a module in shr? Jun 18 19:42:28 modprobe Jun 18 19:42:35 as everywhere Jun 18 19:42:49 ok but where I find module? Jun 18 19:43:26 do find /lib/modules/`uname -r`|grep Jun 18 19:44:00 may be you need to install one first Jun 18 19:44:22 shr guys will help you with opkg ;) Jun 18 19:44:48 but i bet all modules need for iptables should be already installed Jun 18 19:44:50 opkg wolud be good Jun 18 19:45:24 but if nothing in tcpdump, iptables can't filter anything. Jun 18 19:45:26 if I try I have No chain/target/match by that name. Jun 18 19:45:46 I need only one port for my tracker Jun 18 19:45:52 lindi-: now to get log from your personal mars? Jun 18 19:46:09 gena2x: it prints url to the log Jun 18 19:46:17 I think it is necessary ipt_state Jun 18 19:46:45 Shosholoza: i think your command-line wrong Jun 18 19:46:46 gena2x: $ cat /etc/motd | nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 Jun 18 19:46:46 http://paste.debian.net/77944/ Jun 18 19:46:52 like that Jun 18 19:47:03 Shosholoza: do you know about netstat -an which allows you to see active connections? And about lsof which can help to track down which process uses some particular tcp socket? Jun 18 19:47:15 Alien want connect with me Jun 18 19:47:18 :) Jun 18 19:48:22 I have reinstal shr today and I have only turn on gprs Jun 18 19:49:27 Shosholoza: run "tcpdump -s0 -i ppp0 -w ppp0.dump" for 10 minutes and then put the ppp0.dump file somewhere online so that we can really see the full traffic Jun 18 19:49:27 PaulFertser: how do you invoke iptables? Jun 18 19:49:47 Shosholoza: yeah. Jun 18 19:49:57 Shosholoza: do as lindi- suggests Jun 18 19:50:00 gena2x: usually with "iptables", and also i've to admit i use iptables in my /etc/rc.local on my desktop. Jun 18 19:50:29 ok I try this tcpdump -s0 -i ppp0 -w ppp0.dump Jun 18 19:50:41 PaulFertser: i want to see his full command-line, may be just some mistake where Jun 18 19:50:56 gena2x: to me it seems like he's not paying attention :/ Jun 18 19:51:15 starting...... Jun 18 19:51:46 RX bytes:100 (100.0 B) TX bytes:110 (110.0 B) Jun 18 19:51:52 with ifconfig Jun 18 19:52:28 RX bytes:370 (370.0 B) TX bytes:353 (353.0 B) Jun 18 19:53:13 PaulFertser: he just need fewer suggestions per second to follow :) Jun 18 19:53:46 RX bytes:626 (626.0 B) TX bytes:513 (513.0 B) Jun 18 19:54:59 gena2x: i'm not happy with him spamming the channel with random data anyway :/ Jun 18 19:56:55 opsss sorry Jun 18 19:57:09 PaulFertser: don't be so urgly. may be man is using chat for the first time and don't realize that here is many people doing own work. also chat is for talk, so not a bit problem i guess Jun 18 19:57:45 sorry :( Jun 18 19:58:12 gena2x: that's why i'm not considering using any chanserv-foo ;) Jun 18 19:58:19 ppp0.dump is a text file? Jun 18 19:58:25 no Jun 18 19:58:31 ok Jun 18 19:59:45 Do you think it is sufficent the time? Jun 18 19:59:53 yes. Jun 18 19:59:58 push it to web Jun 18 20:00:00 I stop it Jun 18 20:00:13 * PaulFertser wonders if it's considered too paranoid to cross-check with the manuals switch suggestions received from random strangers... Jun 18 20:01:56 Paul: how do you divide people to random and non-random? Jun 18 20:02:05 gena2x: probably i'm just too depressed with the students who showed me (dis)ability to learn yesterday, and with the amount of bugs i had to face at work today thanks to the similar approach of my coworker... Jun 18 20:02:07 http://www.monkeyslair.net/openmoko/ Jun 18 20:03:48 gena2x: you come to some irc chan where you do not know anybody. What happens if i suggest rm -rf / (in some less obvious form) to him, probably as kind of a joke even? Jun 18 20:04:01 PaulFertser: oh, that's from your profession - to divide world on students and non-students :) Jun 18 20:04:39 PaulFertser: i guess no difference from other professions which working with poeple Jun 18 20:05:09 aaahhhh I try rm -rf / Jun 18 20:05:30 gena2x: that's not really my profession. And i'm not sure i'm of any real good doing that anyway, or anything Jun 18 20:05:46 PaulFertser: poor student have to learn everything from philosophy and politology to quantum physics and software development Jun 18 20:05:54 :) Jun 18 20:08:31 Is ppp0.dump util for understand something? Jun 18 20:08:35 Hm, what about find /lib/modules/`echo 'amb afb/' | tr -- ' ab' '-r '`/ -iname ipt_TCP\* (do not run this, it would be a bad joke) Jun 18 20:09:17 Paul, your advices about hardware are invaluable, throw away any bad mood Jun 18 20:09:31 Shosholoza: if you got my hint, you'd know (from man tcpdump) that's a raw dump readable with both tcpdump -r and wireshark (or whatever). Jun 18 20:09:41 gena2x: easier said than done Jun 18 20:09:55 gena2x: also habit is the second nature Jun 18 20:12:35 GNUtoo: I can't use create_mapping anymore Jun 18 20:12:49 so druidus code has gotten unusable for us Jun 18 20:12:50 ... Jun 18 20:13:23 Shosholoza: Jun 18 20:13:24 Hi leviathan Jun 18 20:13:30 Shosholoza: hi Jun 18 20:13:37 how is your freerunner doing? Jun 18 20:13:41 Shosholoza: hm, i can't understand that is your ip. Jun 18 20:13:46 gena2x: what surprised me a lot is not that some people can't really understand e.g. datasheet but that they are fairly sure they do understand it. I bet that's a school habit, as understanding is rarely required there. Jun 18 20:14:17 levi I have reinstalled SHR but problem are not resolved Jun 18 20:14:52 I have called help at this kind men Jun 18 20:15:30 Shosholoza: is your gprs session over? Jun 18 20:15:40 I stop it Jun 18 20:15:43 Shosholoza: what ip did you had? Jun 18 20:15:44 leviathan, druidu ??? he's back? Jun 18 20:16:01 Shosholoza: can you see in some logs? Jun 18 20:16:12 Shosholoza: uhm Jun 18 20:16:19 Shosholoza: may be ifconfig in some terminal or so? Jun 18 20:16:20 following thing Jun 18 20:16:21 is this inet addr:95.75.158.138? Jun 18 20:16:28 Shosholoza: yes Jun 18 20:16:31 yes Jun 18 20:17:01 Shosholoza: please pastebin me the output of your ifconfig Jun 18 20:17:12 then I can check your configuration Jun 18 20:17:27 leviathan: we already have his tcpdump Jun 18 20:17:29 the last:ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol Jun 18 20:17:30 inet addr:95.75.158.138 P-t-P:10.64.64.64 Mask:255.255.255.0 Jun 18 20:17:30 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Jun 18 20:17:30 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 Jun 18 20:17:30 TX packets:49 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Jun 18 20:17:30 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 Jun 18 20:17:30 RX bytes:2744 (2.6 KiB) TX bytes:2339 (2.2 KiB) Jun 18 20:17:43 hmm Jun 18 20:17:51 is there another interface up? Jun 18 20:17:53 e.g. wifi? Jun 18 20:17:56 Shosholoza: sorry for being an ass but please paste to pastebin whenever you want more than 5 lines. Jun 18 20:18:03 lo and usb0 Jun 18 20:18:07 I told him pastebin Jun 18 20:18:14 www.pastebin.com Jun 18 20:18:21 Shosholoza: for the future Jun 18 20:18:23 please Jun 18 20:18:24 Shosholoza: to me the traffic logged looks like your device answeres to random port scanners. Jun 18 20:18:28 else we have a total overhead Jun 18 20:18:35 Shosholoza: too much text Jun 18 20:18:40 sorry Paul :( Jun 18 20:18:47 Shosholoza: np Jun 18 20:18:50 but for the future Jun 18 20:18:55 ok, now Jun 18 20:19:21 can you please *pastebin* me the output of Jun 18 20:19:22 route -n Jun 18 20:19:27 gena2x: you see, that's another thing some do. They see an unknown word but they just skip it and forget about it. Jun 18 20:20:00 gena2x: i do not blame anybody, but this seems to be a rather common thing to do without realising. Jun 18 20:20:04 PaulFertser: thats a thing, I needed to learn, keep quite and take it easy Jun 18 20:20:09 and for me its very difficult Jun 18 20:20:11 ppp0 is turn off I must turn on? Jun 18 20:20:23 Shosholoza: yes Jun 18 20:20:25 turn it on Jun 18 20:20:32 ok Jun 18 20:20:32 PaulFertser: i can't analize logs and discuss complex topic in parallel :) Jun 18 20:20:38 Shosholoza: reproduce the problem you have Jun 18 20:20:49 and then show me every details of the conditions state Jun 18 20:21:10 I turn on gprs from shr settings Jun 18 20:21:18 ok Jun 18 20:21:26 do you get state "connected" Jun 18 20:21:30 ? Jun 18 20:21:48 yes Jun 18 20:21:48 yes, device ANSWERS and this is strange for me Jun 18 20:22:04 gena2x: do not you agree that's just "connection refused" his hosts answeres to random guys who scan the net searching for windows vulnarabilities? Jun 18 20:22:16 180sent and 150 rec Jun 18 20:22:54 I write route -n ? Jun 18 20:23:37 Shosholoza: unfortunately, i think you'll still get incoming traffic. But you can avoid outgoing traffic by dropping packets you do not need with your firewall. Jun 18 20:23:39 PaulFertser: yes. Jun 18 20:23:48 Shosholoza: what's particular iptables command you use? Jun 18 20:23:48 PaulFertser: you right Jun 18 20:23:50 Shosholoza: you are running bittorrent tracker? Jun 18 20:24:25 nothing bittorrent Jun 18 20:24:27 lindi-: i took a look at the dump btw, so my suggestions are now not really random ;) Jun 18 20:24:36 Shosholoza: yes Jun 18 20:24:41 just route -n Jun 18 20:24:45 Shosholoza: and what is particular error it gives you? Jun 18 20:24:48 sry, I'm also coding here Jun 18 20:25:05 PaulFertser: he doesnt have errors Jun 18 20:25:07 lindi-: tcpdump is ok Jun 18 20:25:12 Paul for the firewall? Jun 18 20:25:21 leviathan: he does when he tries to use iptables to block the traffic. Jun 18 20:25:24 Shosholoza: yes Jun 18 20:25:27 its just a unreasonable traffic he watches Jun 18 20:25:35 PaulFertser: ahh Jun 18 20:25:36 ok Jun 18 20:25:49 http://pastebin.com/30ECUZGp Jun 18 20:25:54 leviathan: since i now deduced the incoming traffic is unavoidable i want to try to help to resolve his iptables problem ;) Jun 18 20:26:10 ops Jun 18 20:26:16 2 default gateways Jun 18 20:26:31 :-) Jun 18 20:26:34 firewall error is No chain/target/match by that name. Jun 18 20:26:38 oh, metric 8 - ok Jun 18 20:26:44 Shosholoza: and what is the command? Jun 18 20:27:07 Shosholoza: print here command you execute Jun 18 20:27:33 http://jthinks.com/freerunner-simple-firewall Jun 18 20:27:43 I get this firewall Jun 18 20:28:15 ehh... Jun 18 20:28:17 guy. Jun 18 20:28:35 Shosholoza: what operating system are you using on your workstation? Jun 18 20:28:42 you should understand what you doing and that is the problem. Jun 18 20:28:47 mac os x Jun 18 20:28:54 Shosholoza: so you need "modprobe ipt_nat" Jun 18 20:29:06 Or ip_conntrack Jun 18 20:29:06 you tcpdump logs are ok Jun 18 20:29:25 why you need firewall? Jun 18 20:29:29 PaulFertser: if fear the problem is vice versa, perhaps Jun 18 20:29:34 modprobe ipt_nat -> FATAL: Module ipt_nat not found. Jun 18 20:30:06 firewall so I close all port because I need only one port Jun 18 20:30:11 you can't block packets which came from outside Jun 18 20:30:15 Shosholoza: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Jun 18 20:30:16 they'll can anyway Jun 18 20:30:25 Shosholoza: is it 0 or 1? Jun 18 20:30:28 it should be 0 Jun 18 20:30:29 you can only not anwer on them Jun 18 20:30:33 cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward -> 0 Jun 18 20:30:35 yes Jun 18 20:30:36 Shosholoza: opkg install kernel-module-nf-nat Jun 18 20:30:40 or ignoer them Jun 18 20:30:56 gena2x: but you can ignore them, that'd save some traffic too. Jun 18 20:31:01 no Jun 18 20:31:23 mmm, mickeyl is still absent Jun 18 20:31:30 i mean you can only do not answer Jun 18 20:31:32 opkg install kernel-module-nf-nat -> installed in root is up to date. Jun 18 20:31:51 wtf? Jun 18 20:31:57 and only save traffic on your answers Jun 18 20:32:02 Shosholoza: pastebin please the output of Jun 18 20:32:05 modprobe -l Jun 18 20:32:12 before you do it Jun 18 20:32:21 PaulFertser, if it's what you mean 'ignore' then yes Jun 18 20:32:32 Shosholoza: update-modules Jun 18 20:32:41 gena2x: exactly Jun 18 20:33:02 PaulFertser, i think in iptables this mean 'drop' Jun 18 20:33:04 update-modules ok Jun 18 20:33:14 ok Jun 18 20:33:17 gena2x: yes Jun 18 20:33:22 Shosholoza: now Jun 18 20:33:25 modprobe -l Jun 18 20:33:27 into pastebin Jun 18 20:33:30 give me the list Jun 18 20:33:33 gena2x: but his firewall uses connection tracking, so he needs at least that loaded. Jun 18 20:33:59 http://pastebin.com/Dbah4pyq Jun 18 20:34:01 PaulFertser: nat need connection tracking, why HE need nat? Jun 18 20:34:15 issues with modules lacking after installing? Jun 18 20:34:19 gena2x: probably he'll want to tether later anyway Jun 18 20:34:28 ah no firewall issues Jun 18 20:34:37 Shosholoza: so it's nf_nat Jun 18 20:34:43 Shosholoza: modprobe iptable_nat Jun 18 20:35:02 Shosholoza: and if you do not need to tether, it'll be enough to load nf_conntrack_ipv4 i guess Jun 18 20:35:02 PaulFertser: i thought iptables can modprobe modules it need Jun 18 20:35:10 what ever Jun 18 20:35:13 there was a pid option to iptables I think Jun 18 20:35:20 that could be usefull too Jun 18 20:35:22 gena2x: it should somehow work, yes Jun 18 20:35:42 modprobe iptable_nat ok Jun 18 20:35:56 Shosholoza: ok Jun 18 20:35:58 what is tether Jun 18 20:36:29 • Mobile Internet, to use a cellphone as a modem. Jun 18 20:36:38 RX bytes:31572 :((((( Jun 18 20:36:44 wtf? Jun 18 20:36:45 ok Jun 18 20:36:46 That's what one gets if he types "wp:tether" Jun 18 20:36:54 can I stop gprs ? Jun 18 20:36:56 (wikipedia search) Jun 18 20:37:00 yes Jun 18 20:37:02 you can Jun 18 20:37:29 Shosholoza: bear in mind one thing: you never can block packets from your provider. Jun 18 20:37:41 Shosholoza: after loading iptables and iptables_nat you should be able to use http://jthinks.com/freerunner-simple-firewall Jun 18 20:37:41 Shosholoza: from coming to your interface Jun 18 20:38:08 Shosholoza: I would suggest to add modprobe iptables_nat and modprobe iptables into the start function Jun 18 20:38:12 Shosholoza: so the only option seems to be ask your provider to do the filtering for you, or not bill for that traffic. Jun 18 20:38:23 Shosholoza: you may ignore them, cry to them kill them, but they'll still be coming. Jun 18 20:38:36 :) Jun 18 20:38:58 Shosholoza: modify the script like that Jun 18 20:39:03 I lost my self Jun 18 20:39:19 start() { Jun 18 20:39:19 modprobe iptables Jun 18 20:39:19 modprobe iptables_nat Jun 18 20:39:32 then you can just start it Jun 18 20:39:36 and it should work Jun 18 20:39:37 Shosholoza: and few kb of stuff per minute is OK for internet. Jun 18 20:39:37 :-) Jun 18 20:41:04 Shosholoza: someone always breaking windows machines, ssh account and so. you can do nothing. ignore it. Jun 18 20:41:51 Shosholoza: chance that your freerunner will be broken this way is 0.000001% Jun 18 20:42:10 Unless you expose ssh to the outside on standard port with very simple password Jun 18 20:42:57 I don't understand Jun 18 20:42:57 Shosholoza: it's good idea for you to _understand_ how tcp work, that is ports and now firewall working. Jun 18 20:43:27 Shosholoza: but in general, freerunner have no need in firewall Jun 18 20:43:29 I lost myself Jun 18 20:43:43 yeah... to many information :) Jun 18 20:44:08 ok, first. all is ok with your freerunner Jun 18 20:44:22 Shosholoza: yep Jun 18 20:44:22 if add modprobe iptables_nat i can set firewall, but it is not util Jun 18 20:44:26 traffic you see in tcpdump is usual and no harm Jun 18 20:44:27 its the evil internet Jun 18 20:44:29 =) Jun 18 20:44:41 just joking Jun 18 20:44:41 you have no need firewall Jun 18 20:44:47 its totaly normal traffic Jun 18 20:45:07 but it's good idea to go and learn tcp Jun 18 20:45:11 ok this is clear Jun 18 20:45:16 and basic tool Jun 18 20:45:40 my FR is used like a modem right? Jun 18 20:45:41 tcp networks everywhere so to have this knowledge is good idea Jun 18 20:45:56 yes Jun 18 20:46:11 for stop it I must use a firewall right? Jun 18 20:46:18 no Jun 18 20:46:29 forget about firewalls Jun 18 20:46:33 ok Jun 18 20:46:35 leviathan, you were talking and mentioned druidu....is he back? Jun 18 20:46:43 how do you do this? Jun 18 20:46:51 do what? Jun 18 20:46:57 ok what is a firewall? Jun 18 20:47:00 :) Jun 18 20:47:35 your computer (any) recieves ip traffic Jun 18 20:47:48 ip traffic can be tcp, udp or other. Jun 18 20:47:52 Shosholoza: fyi in my experience wikipedia can explain most things better than some irc folks :) Jun 18 20:48:17 i need onlt a udc port Jun 18 20:48:21 only Jun 18 20:48:28 for track my fr Jun 18 20:48:47 all tcp data have ports Jun 18 20:49:05 each tcp program use some particulart port Jun 18 20:49:18 can I close all tcp port and open only udp port? Jun 18 20:49:23 GNUtoo: no Jun 18 20:49:41 GNUtoo: but the console code is written by him Jun 18 20:49:44 firewall recieved data from interface and and checks if it should go to program Jun 18 20:49:52 my app use udp port 10003 Jun 18 20:49:52 GNUtoo: hi Jun 18 20:49:58 ok Jun 18 20:50:02 hi Kayin Jun 18 20:50:03 oops Jun 18 20:50:04 sorry Jun 18 20:50:06 hi Kensan Jun 18 20:50:09 yes. Jun 18 20:50:13 you can Jun 18 20:50:20 but wait Jun 18 20:50:29 gena2x: can you pleas give him the configuration infos? Jun 18 20:50:32 I need to code Jun 18 20:50:35 :-) Jun 18 20:50:49 leviathan: k, i'll try to help him Jun 18 20:50:55 gena2x: thx Jun 18 20:51:11 gena2x: basically he needs to change some of the lines Jun 18 20:51:18 leviathan: but i don't know about shr, so i'll ask you in that case :) Jun 18 20:51:25 GNUtoo: how are things? Making good progress? Jun 18 20:51:27 gena2x: np =) Jun 18 20:51:34 Kensan: uhm Jun 18 20:51:39 Kensan, no, waiting for mickeyl Jun 18 20:51:43 leviathan: hi Jun 18 20:51:48 I'm hanging with NAND Jun 18 20:51:48 and fighting oe with git bisect Jun 18 20:51:56 GNUtoo: ouch! Jun 18 20:52:00 got subpage size reading and writing working Jun 18 20:52:03 BUT Jun 18 20:52:07 Shosholoza: k. so. if where is no program on some port, and request recieved to that port it just refused Jun 18 20:52:08 Kensan, ouch for which one? git bisect? Jun 18 20:52:09 leviathan: nice Jun 18 20:52:10 DMA fucks up Jun 18 20:52:15 without any reason Jun 18 20:52:18 Shosholoza: and no problem with that Jun 18 20:52:22 while try'n to write some of the pages Jun 18 20:52:23 yes ouch ....I've to rebuild *from scratch* each time I bisect Jun 18 20:52:28 GNUtoo: yes, bisecting seems like a last resort kind of thing... and rather time consuming Jun 18 20:52:54 2/3 hours for each bisect Jun 18 20:52:54 ok than you fot your patience :) Jun 18 20:52:57 for Jun 18 20:53:02 the bisects are not a lot to do....but Jun 18 20:53:11 leviathan: how does DMA "fuck up"? Jun 18 20:53:13 each one are very time consuming Jun 18 20:53:16 Shosholoza: firewall is needed then some program actually listen some port, but you do not want to to have data from internet Jun 18 20:53:24 GNUtoo: yes, that's why I said "ouch" ;) Jun 18 20:53:28 ok Jun 18 20:53:36 Shosholoza: because that program is buggy Jun 18 20:53:51 else there is another approach which I didn't took,build at each commit and only go forward Jun 18 20:53:55 I can't go backward Jun 18 20:54:08 it's because of PR,packaged staging etc... Jun 18 20:54:18 leviathan: dma'ing from nand to memory or the other way? Jun 18 20:54:24 unless I build from scratch Jun 18 20:54:34 leviathan: or both ways? Jun 18 20:54:44 if I go backward I have the same commit that is good and bad Jun 18 20:55:18 fortunately I've a new core i7 Jun 18 20:55:30 only 2-3 hours for an image Jun 18 20:55:37 Kensan: its like that Jun 18 20:55:45 sup Jun 18 20:55:52 basically reading works perfect Jun 18 20:56:00 every single page Jun 18 20:56:07 but as soon as you wanna write Jun 18 20:56:17 you suddenly get certain pages Jun 18 20:56:24 which are read only Jun 18 20:56:24 Kayin, sorry I highlighted your name by error Jun 18 20:56:34 ┐(´д`)┌ Jun 18 20:56:42 Kensan: I can't allocate memory in DMA for writing Jun 18 20:57:07 Kensan: http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/5f52b5135955944660edca8f3b88c620f9ffea86 Jun 18 20:57:12 thats my "workaround" Jun 18 20:57:13 atm Jun 18 20:57:15 I'm looking too Jun 18 20:57:22 I'm just skipping the pages Jun 18 20:57:29 thats absolutly no solution Jun 18 20:57:44 indeed Jun 18 20:57:48 and the persons responsible for this driver just do say NOTHING Jun 18 20:57:57 ah druidu Jun 18 20:57:57 today i flipped out, i fear Jun 18 20:58:16 I did alsa debugging because I was unable to contact druidu Jun 18 20:58:19 GNUtoo: perhaps you have read the email Jun 18 20:58:26 which mail? Jun 18 20:58:34 i wrote to msm ml Jun 18 20:58:40 ok I'll look Jun 18 20:58:50 as I said Jun 18 20:58:54 I ticked out Jun 18 20:59:06 because the error does not make Jun 18 20:59:08 ANY sense Jun 18 20:59:40 leviathan: I would not expect a technical answer to your mail... Jun 18 21:00:01 Kensan: you read it... Jun 18 21:00:05 ok Jun 18 21:00:06 leviathan: just did Jun 18 21:00:11 as I said Jun 18 21:00:16 I lost my nerves today Jun 18 21:00:21 after two days of work Jun 18 21:00:27 I came around an error Jun 18 21:00:47 which comes obviously from an ipredictible source Jun 18 21:00:52 leviathan: so you get an oops? Jun 18 21:01:00 Ohh yeas Jun 18 21:01:12 hi everyone Jun 18 21:01:30 maybe he's hidding Jun 18 21:01:34 Kensan: I minimum had to remove the battery 20 times the last two days Jun 18 21:01:48 also reply to your mail Jun 18 21:01:56 and write something technical Jun 18 21:02:01 not just the address Jun 18 21:02:06 what you tried etc... Jun 18 21:02:11 ok Jun 18 21:02:16 how you came to that conclusion Jun 18 21:02:17 etc... Jun 18 21:02:36 leviathan: you probably don't have that oops somewhere? Jun 18 21:02:47 and possibly apologize for such language on a public mailing list Jun 18 21:05:38 GNUtoo: can you spare a link please? Jun 18 21:05:44 Arhuaco: Hey! Jun 18 21:05:53 Hey PaulFertser, how is it going? Jun 18 21:05:54 Arhuaco: how're you man, what's up? Jun 18 21:06:09 PaulFertser, I'm OK. Thanks. How about you? Jun 18 21:06:24 Arhuaco: ok too. Not really involved in OM lately, unfortunately. Jun 18 21:06:37 for the mailing list post? Jun 18 21:06:38 PaulFertser. Same here.... I've been working a lot here. Jun 18 21:06:41 GNUtoo: yes Jun 18 21:06:47 ok I'll look Jun 18 21:06:58 Arhuaco: heh, i'm still avoiding hard work ;) Jun 18 21:07:13 Arhuaco: were you programming or studying? Jun 18 21:07:41 http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-arm-msm no archives Jun 18 21:07:46 PaulFertser: Working. Jun 18 21:08:03 leviathan, please pastebin your mail to PaulFertser Jun 18 21:08:07 GNUtoo: yep, that's why i asked you Jun 18 21:08:12 ok Jun 18 21:08:18 so I'll pasteibin it Jun 18 21:09:23 GNUtoo: there is an archive Jun 18 21:09:28 http://pastebin.com/NFNMrW95 Jun 18 21:09:47 I'll delete it after you've read it Jun 18 21:09:56 so the mail address don't get spamed Jun 18 21:09:57 http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-arm-msm/ Jun 18 21:10:17 PaulFertser: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-arm-msm/msg00441.html Jun 18 21:10:30 ok so I delete the pastebin Jun 18 21:10:33 GNUtoo: done Jun 18 21:11:16 ok Jun 18 21:12:13 leviathan: i really understand why you've written it that way. Too sad some people get too easily offended, and it's even worse when driver developers do not answer at all. Jun 18 21:12:28 Arhuaco: something kernel-related? Jun 18 21:12:51 I write to him: I do not have any idea how to fix it Jun 18 21:12:56 he writes: write a patch Jun 18 21:13:02 yeah, exactly Jun 18 21:13:05 I write his m* Jun 18 21:13:09 oh forget it Jun 18 21:13:12 anyways Jun 18 21:13:27 ok Jun 18 21:13:32 I can easily believe he's a jackass Jun 18 21:13:45 perhaps he just didnt read the email fully Jun 18 21:14:07 or he just does not like to take any additional look into his own driver Jun 18 21:14:12 or he's just busy Jun 18 21:14:16 but I got the feeling Jun 18 21:14:26 after mailing with some qualcomm people Jun 18 21:14:38 that they hate this whole drivers they wrote Jun 18 21:14:50 no one wants to ever take again a look into this driver Jun 18 21:14:58 every one told me to do a patch myself Jun 18 21:15:09 PaulFertser. Nope. Recently I have been working on event planning and helping a friend who is building a modem (trying to send voice symbols thru the GSM channel). And I have been doing a lot of errands. It seems I'll move to Brazil next month for a new job. Jun 18 21:15:14 I guess, every one knows, its ugly, but now one wants to give in Jun 18 21:15:15 :) Jun 18 21:15:35 leviathan: well Jun 18 21:15:38 Arhuaco: brazil? Jun 18 21:15:41 I love brazil Jun 18 21:15:52 leviathan: do not forget, you want something/information from them. Jun 18 21:15:57 i fall into the amazonas with my freerunner in the pocket Jun 18 21:16:02 its survived it Jun 18 21:16:06 works still perfect Jun 18 21:16:07 ^^ Jun 18 21:16:10 leviathan: they do not actually owe you to fix the driver to make it fit your usecase. Jun 18 21:16:12 leviathan, yes, it's very nice. :-) Jun 18 21:16:29 I think it's a misunderstanding on both parts. Jun 18 21:16:38 Kensan: yes Jun 18 21:16:41 perhaps Jun 18 21:16:49 leviathan, ouch Jun 18 21:17:34 Arhuaco: sounds like you've got enough interesting opportunities, great for you :) Jun 18 21:18:18 Arhuaco: you caught my attention there. Jun 18 21:18:40 Arhuaco: Where do you wanna go? Jun 18 21:18:43 Belem? Jun 18 21:18:50 the city of mangos? Jun 18 21:18:53 =) Jun 18 21:18:58 Arhuaco: you mean your friend is trying to establish a data channel via the gsm voice channel? Jun 18 21:19:24 Ohh, in brazil everyone is using hacked US sattelites Jun 18 21:19:32 Kensan: i think after writing the driver they should feel responsible for it. And if they wrote shit they must admit it. Being honest is something they owe to everybody, imho. Jun 18 21:19:35 deep in the forest you do not have gsm Jun 18 21:19:36 =) Jun 18 21:19:46 Kensan, yes. There are published papers about that, but many of them use GSM simulators instead of the real hardware/networks. Jun 18 21:20:13 PaulFertser: how come they owe you to fix up your problems with the driver after you have done changes to it? Jun 18 21:20:25 PaulFertser: it is working for them I assume. Jun 18 21:20:33 PaulFertser: its not only the driver Jun 18 21:20:34 Kensan: working code != good code Jun 18 21:20:36 also the hardware Jun 18 21:20:38 Arhuaco: really cool. Jun 18 21:20:45 citate Jun 18 21:20:54 PaulFertser: well obviously, but how exactly should they fix leviathans problem? Jun 18 21:21:04 PaulFertser: they did not do his changes to the driver? Jun 18 21:21:20 Not all opcodes are valid for oneNAND devices. Only the following opcodes should be Jun 18 21:21:20 used for oneNAND devices. Jun 18 21:21:22 PaulFertser: these are embedded developers, they are working on some other project since looong, Jun 18 21:21:29 Kensan. One interesting paper is about finding the symbols to make data look like speech. Jun 18 21:21:43 Arhuaco: the whole problem is very interesting. Jun 18 21:21:43 Kensan: kernel development doesn't work like that. Jun 18 21:21:52 now the operations Jun 18 21:21:58 not very long text Jun 18 21:21:59 Arhuaco: do you have some pointers to their papers? Jun 18 21:22:01 >_< Jun 18 21:22:14 you can write a single page at once Jun 18 21:22:22 and you can read a single page at once Jun 18 21:22:26 only one at once Jun 18 21:22:29 ahh, yeah Jun 18 21:22:34 you can erase Jun 18 21:22:38 super controller Jun 18 21:22:44 congratulation Jun 18 21:22:52 who should I shoot for this engineering? Jun 18 21:23:12 now I know where all this sleeping students in the lecture room will work later Jun 18 21:23:13 -.- Jun 18 21:23:19 leviathan: why can't ubi work with subpage size == page size? Jun 18 21:23:28 PaulFertser: of course it does not work like this in a perfect world, with good developers who care about their code and engage in the process but they dont. Jun 18 21:24:25 Kensan "A Novel Speech-Like Symbol Design for Data Transmission through GSM Voice Channel" - IEEE. Jun 18 21:25:08 Kensan: good people would try to help a guy doing nice work for the community. Nobody owes anybody to be a "good" person, indeed. But it's a reasonable expectation, isn't it? Jun 18 21:25:39 Arhuaco: if I might ask, what university is doing this research? Jun 18 21:26:36 PaulFertser: well if the developer has to choose between paid work for his company or helping out somebody on a ml what do you think he will do? Jun 18 21:26:58 Kensan: http://aut.ac.ir Jun 18 21:27:25 Kensan: anyway Jun 18 21:27:34 I guess I'll review the driver Jun 18 21:27:39 Kensan: tell that he's damn busy and try to help in his spare time Jun 18 21:27:40 and will replace it by my own Jun 18 21:27:48 i've extended it so much Jun 18 21:27:53 I can replace the rest Jun 18 21:27:54 :-) Jun 18 21:28:12 PaulFertser: yes, if only the world would be this simple. Jun 18 21:28:27 Kensan, I guess you mean where the authors come from... their email addresses are from that domain. Jun 18 21:28:32 GNUtoo will perhaps be unhappy, because then he will loose android functionality perhaps Jun 18 21:28:36 for some while Jun 18 21:29:00 ah? Jun 18 21:29:04 I've got the datasheets Jun 18 21:29:11 I've got the knowledge Jun 18 21:29:22 upstream is good for android Jun 18 21:29:32 basically they have new board/bsp Jun 18 21:29:39 upstream,new drivers etc... Jun 18 21:29:43 ok Jun 18 21:29:45 leviathan, PaulFertser: I do not mean any offence and I sure as hell do not want to defend some qualcom developer for his behavior which is far from positive. Jun 18 21:29:45 they don't diverge too much etc... Jun 18 21:29:55 they could adapt the userland easily Jun 18 21:29:57 etc... Jun 18 21:29:58 but... Jun 18 21:30:04 leviathan, PaulFertser: but I believe your expectations are simply too high. Jun 18 21:30:07 they may not want that so great thing Jun 18 21:30:20 leviathan: why can't you ask ubi to ignore subpages? The faq suggests it supports that. Jun 18 21:30:21 for instance to lock people in android etc... Jun 18 21:31:02 GNUtoo: you would have to propagate subpage disablement Jun 18 21:31:12 but for this, they implemented it the wrong way Jun 18 21:31:36 they did not take ANY thing in regard Jun 18 21:31:43 not the default interfaces Jun 18 21:31:55 Arhuaco: many people would love to be able to have a data channel over the gsm voice channel ;) Jun 18 21:32:11 leviathan: i mean instead of implementing virtual subpages, the driver is supposed to tell it doesn't support it, since the hardware really doesn't, right? Jun 18 21:32:31 the hardware does, only the controller doesnt Jun 18 21:32:33 >_< Jun 18 21:32:45 the hardware kills functionality internal Jun 18 21:32:55 leviathan: but it doesn't matter for the driver Jun 18 21:32:59 Kensan: morse code ;) Jun 18 21:33:07 Kensan, Yup. They say they can get about 2kbps. We are not that far yet but I guess we should know next week. Jun 18 21:33:48 PaulFertser: http://ftp.o2s.ch/80-VA736-2-MSM7200-SoftwareInterface.pdf Jun 18 21:33:51 page 299 Jun 18 21:33:53 -.- Jun 18 21:34:32 Arhuaco: that's pretty impressive Jun 18 21:34:44 oh, and they placed the driver in the wrong folder Jun 18 21:34:47 its OneNAND Jun 18 21:34:50 :-) Jun 18 21:35:01 Arhuaco: is that for arbitrary data or "steganography"-like hiding of a second voice signal? Jun 18 21:36:23 leviathan: yep, i see, they made NAND pretty limited with that Jun 18 21:36:30 http://hackaday.com/2010/05/27/usb-morse-code-keyboard/ Jun 18 21:36:37 with usb-hostmode Jun 18 21:36:41 for freerunner Jun 18 21:36:46 thats geeky Jun 18 21:36:47 ^^ Jun 18 21:37:00 PaulFertser: yes Jun 18 21:37:13 Kensan, both of them. We are interested in data, but also in voice. Some codecs give you good quality with 4kbps ... some can do 2kbps but it doesn't sound too pretty (even when you could understand what is being said). Jun 18 21:38:06 Arhuaco: I see. Jun 18 21:38:42 Arhuaco: I assume there's not much publicly available papers etc? Jun 18 21:39:08 Kensan, it seems there are not many :-/ Jun 18 21:39:58 Arhuaco: yes, unfortunately not. I looked into this subject a bit a couple of years ago and there was not much available at that time either. Jun 18 21:40:07 seems like times have not changed all tha much. Jun 18 21:40:30 leviathan: his words about MCL NAND sound reasonable... Jun 18 21:41:32 leviathan: we finished with iptables. Jun 18 21:41:38 leviathan: depmod Jun 18 21:41:58 gena2x: ok Jun 18 21:42:00 very well Jun 18 21:42:02 leviathan: if subpage writing is not possible anyway, probably the easiest option is to disable any subpage access, so ubi wouldn't be confused and would just work. Jun 18 21:42:04 leviathan: and overall idea of kernel modules is hm... annoying Jun 18 21:42:20 leviathan: i mean kernel modules in separate packages Jun 18 21:42:31 gena2x: :-) Jun 18 21:42:37 it has its reasons Jun 18 21:42:52 leviathan: if so, may be add dependency for iptables Jun 18 21:43:03 yeah Jun 18 21:43:07 would be good Jun 18 21:43:14 leviathan: or poor users have to figure which iptables modules they need....... Jun 18 21:43:46 GNUtoo: does the iptables binary package no depend on the kernel modules? Jun 18 21:43:52 if so. why? Jun 18 21:43:56 can we fix it? Jun 18 21:45:15 and why installing kernel module do not invoke depmod? Jun 18 21:46:50 leviathan, I don't know...look in the recipes Jun 18 21:47:01 I can look if you want Jun 18 21:47:08 but I'm shure you're capable of looking Jun 18 21:47:29 it could be also that the modules are not found Jun 18 21:47:37 I think it should RRECOMMAND Jun 18 21:47:41 instead of DEPENDS Jun 18 21:49:11 leviathan, look at RRECOMMENDS_${PN} = "\ Jun 18 21:49:14 in iptables.inc Jun 18 21:50:34 else maybe RRECOMMAND is broken Jun 18 21:50:40 that's why I'm bisecting Jun 18 21:50:47 and I bet it's opkg version bump Jun 18 21:53:42 hmm, ok Jun 18 21:54:05 leviathan, basically : Jun 18 21:54:13 725c273d05d9e3e940abfe5da7d045bd61ce02d6 bad Jun 18 21:54:14 7dc8f297689cdbba9021c2c620bd025ca234c58a good Jun 18 21:54:16 so far... Jun 18 21:54:27 so there isn't much choice Jun 18 21:54:35 guys, if modules will not be installed with iptables... Jun 18 21:54:45 yes Jun 18 21:54:57 gena2x: yes, I know, its broken Jun 18 21:55:02 now we try to fix it ;-) Jun 18 21:55:03 there is a commit about slugos Jun 18 21:55:07 a psplash Jun 18 21:55:12 a patch.py Jun 18 21:55:16 an eglibc Jun 18 21:55:25 some other commits ... Jun 18 21:55:26 RECOMMEND will install it automagically? Jun 18 21:55:32 and opkg: bump SRCREV Jun 18 21:55:42 normally it should Jun 18 21:55:49 at least that was what I was told Jun 18 21:56:15 but removing the recommanded package does not affect the one who pulled the recommanded one Jun 18 21:56:21 but maybe it's modifiable Jun 18 21:56:50 k, yes seems nice Jun 18 21:56:57 and depmod Jun 18 21:57:12 why he need to do depmod manually? Jun 18 22:05:30 GNUtoo|laptop: I guess I gonne sleep now Jun 18 22:06:03 tomorrow I'll look why the upstream kernel doesnt load the fbconsole by default Jun 18 22:07:05 for this I'll try to add usb ethernet Jun 18 22:07:30 ok Jun 18 22:07:34 but now I'm tired Jun 18 22:07:49 gn8 @ all Jun 18 22:07:52 leviathan: good night Jun 18 22:08:00 leviathan: are you trying to get fbconsole working on dream? Jun 18 22:08:06 leviathan: with msm_fb? Jun 18 22:08:07 Kensan: yes Jun 18 22:08:14 in upstream Jun 18 22:08:24 leviathan: so you ported msm_fb? Jun 18 22:08:34 its already ported Jun 18 22:08:39 just disfunctional Jun 18 22:08:40 ;-) Jun 18 22:08:59 with upstream you mean linus' tree? Jun 18 22:09:03 yes Jun 18 22:09:17 ah wait, that's dream Jun 18 22:09:19 lol Jun 18 22:09:20 my bad Jun 18 22:10:18 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=drivers/video/msm;h=1f0c999875af21a94d959cee7e749e6498a9fca3;hb=7e27d6e778cd87b6f2415515d7127eba53fe5d02 Jun 18 22:10:24 :-) Jun 18 22:10:36 now we need to get it functional Jun 18 22:10:39 ^^ Jun 18 22:10:49 but thats for tomorrow Jun 18 22:10:54 my mind gets slow now Jun 18 22:10:58 I need some rest Jun 18 22:11:14 I guess in 6h I'll be up and ready for new development Jun 18 22:11:28 I got now payable U-cores out of the catalog I guess Jun 18 22:11:38 but I get them the soonest on monday Jun 18 22:11:51 get 8h. Jun 18 22:12:08 so my vacuum energy extractor project will have to wait until then Jun 18 22:12:27 gena2x: depends if the sun shines tomorrow Jun 18 22:12:36 if it warms my room I will wake up earlier Jun 18 22:12:42 because of my methabolism Jun 18 22:12:44 xD Jun 18 22:12:47 :) Jun 18 22:12:56 I do not need much sleep Jun 18 22:13:06 but I need it =) Jun 18 22:13:17 e.g. now Jun 18 22:13:33 before I talk more Jun 18 22:13:44 :) Jun 18 22:13:48 gn8 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 19 02:59:57 2010