**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 05 02:59:58 2010 Jul 05 10:18:26 hi dos1 Jul 05 10:20:48 dos1, can you review my frameworkd.conf and push it if it's fine: http://pastebin.com/RMYtsvsa Jul 05 10:21:13 is JaMa on hollidays? Jul 05 10:30:28 gena2x: plus OO.o lacks any reasonable way to use emacs keybindings. Why invent some other incompatible (and more limited) keybinding system when emacs-like keybindings were there for ages and are in fact convenient and functional. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 05 18:54:14 2010 Jul 05 18:57:59 32fps... Jul 05 18:58:26 gena2x, are you by any chance talking about video playback in high res? :P Jul 05 18:58:46 i am talking about glamo bus speed. Jul 05 19:02:22 so, before change i were able to get ((640*480/2)*15)/1024/1024 = 2.0 mb/s. Jul 05 19:02:33 mickeyl: hi Jul 05 19:02:54 no! Jul 05 19:03:03 yes. Jul 05 19:03:04 right. Jul 05 19:03:40 after patch i can get ((640*480/2)*32)/1024/1024=4.7Mb/s. Jul 05 19:06:24 so this is ever within declared glamo limits. Jul 05 19:06:43 okee Jul 05 19:07:34 hm.... Jul 05 19:07:35 TAsn: he got 20 fps with 640x480 video without hardware acceleration... and probably can get even more :P Jul 05 19:07:54 no. 32 fps MEMCPY. Jul 05 19:08:04 gena2x: i said 20, not 32 :P Jul 05 19:08:09 :P Jul 05 19:08:12 yes. Jul 05 19:08:19 ok. Jul 05 19:08:22 ;) Jul 05 19:08:46 i 20fps video seem still not got. Jul 05 19:09:05 but it look ok in 640x480. no 'sliding' Jul 05 19:09:17 still impresive :D Jul 05 19:09:40 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Jul 05 19:09:47 do you have a samsung wave? Jul 05 19:09:52 no Jul 05 19:10:06 I'll keep some money for the future Jul 05 19:11:37 I need to get a samsung device Jul 05 19:11:40 I'll check some Jul 05 19:11:41 what's a samsung wave? Jul 05 19:11:48 it has bada os Jul 05 19:11:51 ah ok Jul 05 19:11:56 it it already out? Jul 05 19:12:01 yes Jul 05 19:12:06 ah ok Jul 05 19:12:09 my plans are: Jul 05 19:12:16 to finish the dream Jul 05 19:12:20 and maybe later buy a bada Jul 05 19:12:28 since when was it out? Jul 05 19:12:38 since a week or so Jul 05 19:12:40 not long Jul 05 19:13:00 nice Jul 05 19:13:03 how free is it? Jul 05 19:13:05 one of the developers working at samsung told me, he now has one of the first finished devices in his hands Jul 05 19:13:10 ok Jul 05 19:13:15 and now you can buy it Jul 05 19:13:19 nice Jul 05 19:13:22 so Jul 05 19:13:23 its rtos Jul 05 19:13:27 :( Jul 05 19:13:28 and bada as middleware Jul 05 19:13:35 there are no linux versions Jul 05 19:13:48 but the hardware might be as well supported by the 360 kernel Jul 05 19:13:51 of linux Jul 05 19:13:53 anyway Jul 05 19:14:01 ok Jul 05 19:14:01 samsung galaxy comes with android Jul 05 19:14:14 my plans are to finish the dream Jul 05 19:14:19 I'm so close to a release Jul 05 19:14:21 dito Jul 05 19:14:23 I commit some stuff Jul 05 19:14:31 send some patches upstreeam Jul 05 19:14:33 finish rebase Jul 05 19:14:37 uhm Jul 05 19:14:41 and make the release Jul 05 19:14:45 where do you send it upstream? Jul 05 19:14:49 xorg Jul 05 19:14:54 ahh Jul 05 19:14:55 ok Jul 05 19:15:22 about the bada thing Jul 05 19:15:30 the rtos has an usable bootloader? Jul 05 19:17:05 personally I think I'll wait for my dream to be strongly outdated before buying a new linux/bada phone Jul 05 19:17:29 I need to thing in the long run Jul 05 19:17:43 not ohh a new phone,let's buy it at every phones Jul 05 19:17:52 and never finishing each port Jul 05 19:18:15 yes Jul 05 19:18:17 of course Jul 05 19:18:24 it was just to have a samsung Jul 05 19:18:32 for porting fso :-) Jul 05 19:18:34 but anyway Jul 05 19:18:41 I'm not so usefull for that Jul 05 19:18:50 mhmm Jul 05 19:18:52 I know Jul 05 19:18:55 I'm only an oe person which get his hand on the kernel by error Jul 05 19:19:07 mom Jul 05 19:19:17 I need to restart quassel Jul 05 19:19:18 or something like that Jul 05 19:19:24 what's quassel Jul 05 19:19:25 ? Jul 05 19:20:27 GNUtoo|laptop: my chat app Jul 05 19:20:29 :-) Jul 05 19:20:33 sp Jul 05 19:20:36 so Jul 05 19:20:40 ok Jul 05 19:21:36 Gabrys: ok Jul 05 19:22:39 GNUtoo|laptop: some how Jul 05 19:22:42 since last week Jul 05 19:22:56 there happened no change to linux-msm Jul 05 19:23:01 from dwalkers repo Jul 05 19:23:14 I fear theire developent could have frozen Jul 05 19:23:16 or so Jul 05 19:24:47 anyone tried the Zephyr HxM heart rate monitor with tangoGPS on the FR yet ? Jul 05 19:26:03 leviathan, no Jul 05 19:26:08 leviathan, it's the hollidays Jul 05 19:26:14 theses people are paid to work on it Jul 05 19:27:29 so... Jul 05 19:30:35 ahh Jul 05 19:30:36 ok Jul 05 19:30:57 I'm doing even physics research on my own cost Jul 05 19:31:01 in my free time Jul 05 19:31:44 where are the good old times, where the humans have enjoyed there fightened freedom and worked for theire own benefit? Jul 05 19:32:25 and did not behave that much like lazy mammals... thats soo deprimating Jul 05 19:32:27 :-( Jul 05 19:33:14 GNUtoo|laptop: people who have fun on doing grate things just for fun - like you and me - have gotten so rare Jul 05 19:33:30 no it's not rare Jul 05 19:33:40 it's just that at some point they got employed Jul 05 19:33:44 but they all start with fun Jul 05 19:33:59 for instance Jul 05 19:34:05 they only got into slavery under the wrong claws Jul 05 19:34:06 you do kernel work for fun Jul 05 19:34:13 and some entreprise hire you then Jul 05 19:34:37 and I tell them, that I'm on the same level, and I tell them whats the best to do with this product Jul 05 19:34:53 ok, and 32fps is memcpy. memset is 44fps. so all looks same. Jul 05 19:34:56 because I understand FOSS and I understand my culture Jul 05 19:35:10 ;-) Jul 05 19:35:33 and the goal will be the bridge as hardware Jul 05 19:35:35 golden gate Jul 05 19:36:01 I hope I can motivate the corean guys to participate into this hunt for money Jul 05 19:36:15 it will bring us all together Jul 05 19:36:31 money and FOSS combined in the right way Jul 05 19:40:42 I haven't been able to get a message through to smartphones-users for 3 weeks, now Jul 05 19:40:46 wtf.. Jul 05 19:44:39 wow. qtmoko is working. i can't notice any redraw at all. Jul 05 19:46:49 * gena2x happy. now om like usual smartphone. Jul 05 19:48:30 gena2x: don't make us too excited before giving it to us... :P i can't wait :x Jul 05 19:49:02 dos1: you can give uboot to test. Jul 05 19:49:18 s/you/i can give you/ Jul 05 19:49:18 gena2x meant: dos1: i can give you can give uboot to test. Jul 05 19:49:40 you need also some distro on nand Jul 05 19:49:49 uboot? that's in bootloader? :o Jul 05 19:49:55 YEAH Jul 05 19:50:30 gena2x: well, i have some old SHR in NAND for rescue purposes with 2.6.29 Jul 05 19:50:42 gena2x: so give it to me please :D Jul 05 19:51:02 oh, no :) Jul 05 19:51:13 i think you need .29 with nodebug also. Jul 05 19:51:23 so qtmoko or recent shr. Jul 05 19:51:29 reflash :) Jul 05 19:52:00 i can flash 2.6.32 to use when testing and then flash 29 back :P Jul 05 19:52:44 (2.6.32 is not so stable here, but now i don't think i'll really need stable phone so i can temporaly live without real rescue image :D) Jul 05 19:53:25 dos1: yeah. Jul 05 19:54:08 dos1: i am using 533hz version right now. will you try it as is or i can build 400/100 for you? Jul 05 19:54:36 gena2x: 533 is fine Jul 05 19:59:54 hi mickeyl Jul 05 20:00:40 hi, is there anyone who knows how to debug phone not ringing/vibrating Jul 05 20:05:46 GNUtoo|laptop: try to make it ringing or vibrating manually from dbus Jul 05 20:05:56 ok Jul 05 20:06:37 mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Vibrator/0 org.freesmartphone.Device.Vibrator.Vibrate 1000 100 works Jul 05 20:06:41 maybe suspend issue? Jul 05 20:09:49 ok works when suspended too Jul 05 20:13:09 dos1, should I increase loggin and wait for a call? Jul 05 20:13:33 hmm Jul 05 20:13:50 GNUtoo|laptop: check, if you have call states in rules.yaml in uppercase Jul 05 20:14:00 you know, ACTIVE, INCOMING, OUTGOING etc. Jul 05 20:14:02 ok Jul 05 20:15:18 lower case Jul 05 20:15:25 I thought someone commited a fix for that Jul 05 20:15:27 for dream Jul 05 20:25:09 I'll look Jul 05 20:25:18 maybe srcrev was not bumped Jul 05 20:28:30 GNUtoo|laptop: i remember commiting it ;x Jul 05 20:28:47 ok I'll look Jul 05 20:34:39 dos1, in which repo is it? Jul 05 20:34:56 GNUtoo|laptop: I checked... it is uppercase Jul 05 20:34:59 ah ok shr's one Jul 05 20:35:00 ok Jul 05 20:35:01 GNUtoo|laptop: repo is shr-themes Jul 05 20:35:44 - HasAttr(switch, "HEADSET") Jul 05 20:35:47 ok Jul 05 20:35:59 but also: Jul 05 20:36:07 - HasAttr(event, "released") Jul 05 20:36:52 ok I'll try Jul 05 20:41:52 mrmoku, can I change srcrev in oe? Jul 05 20:41:54 to 7a681fab18573f259575252736ecfe668d9efef4 Jul 05 20:42:04 -SRCREV_pn-frameworkd-config-shr_SHR_REV ?= "8ba6f1545068399060483017451261e9b3c70d4a" Jul 05 20:42:04 +SRCREV_pn-frameworkd-config-shr_SHR_REV ?= "7a681fab18573f259575252736ecfe668d9efef4" Jul 05 20:42:23 in recipes/shr/frameworkd-config-shr_git.bb Jul 05 20:42:37 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, go ahead Jul 05 20:42:42 thanks a lot Jul 05 20:42:46 np Jul 05 20:43:08 * mrmoku is still waiting for the day to see a good working SHR on something different than FR :) Jul 05 20:43:33 I commit some stuff and this day'll come soon if you don't worry about wifi PSM Jul 05 20:47:55 mrmoku, I'll ask you to build images very soon Jul 05 20:48:03 when I'll have pushed every bits upstream Jul 05 20:48:07 and finished the rebase Jul 05 20:48:29 mrmoku, imagine a phone capable of: Jul 05 20:48:39 *running wesnoth 1.8.3 without any speed issues Jul 05 20:48:51 *run pingus,supertux-qvga,scummvm etc... Jul 05 20:49:03 *has a very good hardware keyboard Jul 05 20:49:08 need better mapping tough Jul 05 20:53:44 gena2x: I suggest, instead of frequencies and timings having hardcoded in u-boot, that variables should be configurable via u-boot env Jul 05 20:54:29 and voltages... Jul 05 20:54:57 Martix_: or even better to properly implement the facilities in cpufreq kernel framework ;) Jul 05 20:55:05 Martix_: you right. but i am afraid about allowing regulation of voltages. too easy to make mistake. Jul 05 20:55:17 PaulFertser: right, that would be cool Jul 05 20:55:52 PaulFertser: i wanted to end up in fixing cpufreq. Jul 05 20:55:58 gena2x: yeah, but you can place a safeguard for those two registers Jul 05 20:56:20 PaulFertser: right. Jul 05 20:56:20 gena2x: yep, maybe hardcode, if RAM timing is too high for 1,8 V then use 1,9 V :-) Jul 05 20:56:33 gena2x: that would be damn nice. Your work is really appreciated by the community, you found the sweet spot apparently :) Jul 05 20:56:49 :) Jul 05 20:56:51 gena2x: PaulFertser has a better solution :-) Jul 05 20:57:30 hardcode only safe limits Jul 05 20:58:11 ok, let me finish it. something wrong with mplayer inside qtmoko. Jul 05 20:58:21 working on it. Jul 05 20:58:32 gena2x: well, take your time :-) Jul 05 21:04:44 mrmoku, basically I reabse one sound changes in order to make fsodeviced work Jul 05 21:04:52 then I wait for the xorg mail to come Jul 05 21:05:07 I change linux-leviathan in oe Jul 05 21:05:19 and make some minor cosmetics changes Jul 05 21:05:23 and ...release Jul 05 21:05:23 no? Jul 05 21:13:22 GNUtoo|laptop: release early... and release often :-) Jul 05 21:17:16 how can we retrieve dbus functions such as GetMessagebookInfo() or RetrieveMessagebook("all"), or IncomingMessageReceipt? Jul 05 21:17:47 I upgraded and they're gone now, and I was relying on them for one of my programs Jul 05 21:23:53 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Jul 05 21:23:59 you may change some stuff Jul 05 21:24:11 leviathan, I'll push very soon Jul 05 21:24:39 ok Jul 05 21:25:18 Mwyann: please see the docs, some of the function changed signature and names Jul 05 21:25:41 mickeyl, hi where was your firmware plugin ? Jul 05 21:26:10 fsodevice.kernel26_firmwareloader Jul 05 21:26:22 mickeyl, are they still here all of them, is it just a "rename" ? Jul 05 21:26:44 if one's missing, I'll just have to revert to an older version Jul 05 21:26:55 ah deviced thanks a lot Jul 05 21:27:11 Mwyann: not just a rename, but also signature changes Jul 05 21:27:18 but you can still get the information Jul 05 21:27:35 just take a look at the docs, i.e. GetMessageBookInfo is no more, rather included in GetSimInfo now Jul 05 21:29:06 GNUtoo|laptop: search path is /lib/firmware by default; if you want, we can make it configurable Jul 05 21:29:35 mickeyl, yes it would be better Jul 05 21:29:48 anyway I plan no wireless-compat for the first release Jul 05 21:30:48 mickeyl, in my wishlist a modified for better,routing plugin would be great Jul 05 21:31:17 mickeyl, do you have by any chance the last rom image just before these changes? if not that's not a big deal. Jul 05 21:31:43 Mwyann: FSO milestone 5.5 is still available, but that's really old. Jul 05 21:32:02 i'm not sure which SHR versions still carry frameworkd->ogsmd Jul 05 21:32:30 GNUtoo|laptop: w/ qdsp5 or alsa? Jul 05 21:32:40 old how? shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100420 older than that ? :) Jul 05 21:32:44 GNUtoo|laptop: I prefer alsa :-) Jul 05 21:32:45 mickeyl, not totally fixed but usable Jul 05 21:32:58 yes alsa Jul 05 21:33:30 fso milestone 5.5 has been released on 2009-07-10 Jul 05 21:33:35 SHR switched to fsogsmd a couple of months ago Jul 05 21:34:12 GNUtoo|laptop: why do we need routing at all on dream? Jul 05 21:34:18 isn't BP taking care of everything? Jul 05 21:37:11 mickeyl, basically if you're on headphone => ring on headphones Jul 05 21:37:20 if you're on speaker => ring on speaker Jul 05 21:37:25 etc... Jul 05 21:37:31 but... Jul 05 21:37:32 I wonder Jul 05 21:37:35 if you use intone Jul 05 21:37:40 if it'll ring Jul 05 21:40:28 hmm Jul 05 21:40:32 good question Jul 05 21:43:26 hm.. how to reset glamo? Jul 05 21:44:32 gena2x: reset??? Jul 05 21:45:02 yes Jul 05 21:45:19 :) Jul 05 21:45:55 it is sometimes getting into strange state Jul 05 21:46:52 what "strange" state? Jul 05 21:47:18 left half of screen is ok, on right is something like buzz. Jul 05 21:47:50 also it became extremly slow after that. Jul 05 21:48:05 hmm Jul 05 21:48:07 I see Jul 05 21:48:57 is it the drm kernel? Jul 05 21:49:01 nope. Jul 05 21:49:04 .34. Jul 05 21:49:07 from git. Jul 05 21:49:41 need ask weiss anyway :) Jul 05 21:50:48 hmm, ok Jul 05 21:51:07 is it exactly a half of the screen? Jul 05 21:51:13 then we have some issue with buffer Jul 05 21:51:29 might be, that we have two buffers, because of size maximum Jul 05 21:51:34 nope. 1/3 i think. Jul 05 21:51:38 and the second is not cleanded correctly Jul 05 21:51:43 hmm Jul 05 21:51:46 then 3 Jul 05 21:51:48 hmm Jul 05 21:51:59 Weiss: what do you think? Jul 05 21:52:26 1/3 ok, 2/3 nok. you can still read everything, but pixels has random position. Jul 05 21:52:32 +-1. Jul 05 21:53:39 ok, i am experimenting with glamo memory timings, so such thing are expected too. just tried to ask how to reset beast :) Jul 05 22:04:57 mrmoku, | No package 'fsoframework-2.0' found Jul 05 22:05:00 in phonefsod Jul 05 22:06:13 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm... do we have the dependencies still wrong? Jul 05 22:06:19 I thought we fixed that :/ Jul 05 22:06:37 it needs libfsoframework Jul 05 22:06:40 mrmoku, ah I just git pulled Jul 05 22:06:53 mrmoku, can I fix that too? Jul 05 22:07:16 DEPENDS += " libfso-glib dbus-glib libframeworkd-glib sqlite3 shr-specs" Jul 05 22:07:20 still missing Jul 05 22:07:25 GNUtoo|laptop: yes please :-) Jul 05 22:07:27 ok thanks Jul 05 22:19:34 TAsn: so, i can watch fast-action widescreen movie (360x640) encoded with mpeg4 at 15 fps, vbitrate=200 at 54%+35% of cpu. Jul 05 22:19:47 without sound and at 533/88 kernel. Jul 05 22:20:20 and mpeg4 decoder is main problem here (54% of cpu) Jul 05 22:20:46 other 35% is fixable with dma. Jul 05 22:22:54 so, no magic, but with old timings it were 56%+63%. so 2x. Jul 05 22:24:02 gena2x, vo glamo works with 2.6.32? Jul 05 22:24:17 i am doing with -vo fbdev. Jul 05 22:30:55 GNUtoo|oeee: hmm Jul 05 22:31:00 irc on openembedded Jul 05 22:31:02 :-) Jul 05 22:31:06 yes? Jul 05 22:31:14 did I broke something? Jul 05 22:31:26 no Jul 05 22:31:34 not that I know yet ;-) Jul 05 22:31:39 ok Jul 05 22:31:49 so why are you hmmming? Jul 05 22:32:24 remember I use the htcdream as a phone Jul 05 22:32:32 ah, ok Jul 05 22:32:45 so I don't see why I shouldn't port games on it Jul 05 22:34:15 GNUtoo|oeee: newest SHR image for htcdream is still building Jul 05 22:34:17 that's part of the killer apps Jul 05 22:34:21 ok Jul 05 22:34:28 try to git pull Jul 05 22:34:37 that will give you newest configs Jul 05 22:34:37 why do we have that amount of new depencies now? Jul 05 22:34:39 for htcdream Jul 05 22:34:40 7000 Jul 05 22:34:42 around Jul 05 22:34:44 yes Jul 05 22:34:57 1830 of 7570 Jul 05 22:35:19 it grow of 1000 packs Jul 05 22:35:21 strange Jul 05 22:35:31 I hope xorg now works Jul 05 22:35:43 no Jul 05 22:35:57 hmm? Jul 05 22:35:57 I sent a patch upstream Jul 05 22:36:01 ok Jul 05 22:36:20 anyway I couldn't push that xorg patch Jul 05 22:36:25 I don't know what it does Jul 05 22:36:34 and it's core stuff Jul 05 22:36:41 I could have asked on oe mailing list Jul 05 22:36:43 but... Jul 05 22:36:54 xorg mailing list know better Jul 05 22:37:14 I'll have to try to sleep Jul 05 22:37:48 bye **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 06 02:59:58 2010