**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 02:59:57 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 03:55:38 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 05:02:15 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 05:02:42 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 05:48:15 2010 Jul 24 08:13:08 Hi ! I've got a problem with SHR-U (with the new kernel). I can't connect to FSO. I tried something in python to connect FSO via dbus, and when I try to get the proxy, it says that I'm not allowed. All the deamons are runnigÂș Jul 24 09:01:03 at least yours boots :) Jul 24 09:01:13 the current SHR-U doesn't even boot on my FR anymore :( Jul 24 09:01:53 I've now tried booting with and without uSD, ubi, jffs, lite/full Jul 24 09:16:36 seems to be an error in the image Jul 24 09:17:16 JFFS2 error: (1) jffs2_build_inode_pass1: child dir "rules.d" (ino #852) of dir ino #792 appears to be a hard link Jul 24 09:17:38 and then at timestamp 600 it suspends Jul 24 09:24:46 hi Jul 24 09:24:54 I have a proposition for SHR team Jul 24 09:25:09 how about adding some skins and give the whole interface a graphical overhaul ? Jul 24 09:39:34 I think this very important. possibility to change look Jul 24 09:39:39 'make it mine' (tm) Jul 24 10:24:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r64219ade9b88 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/modem.vala: fsogsmd: cosmetics Jul 24 10:24:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc40202134a9d 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/muxtransport.vala: fsogsmd: muxtransport: fix closing channels Jul 24 10:24:07 mrmoku|away: ping Jul 24 10:24:32 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r84307a1977a3 10/docs/TODO: docs: todo-- Jul 24 10:25:04 mickey|tv: hi Jul 24 10:25:09 morning dcordes_lib Jul 24 10:25:51 mickey|tv: many people asked me for a video or photos of the dream running shr Jul 24 10:26:09 mickey|tv: unfortunately leviathan only got a webcam and GNUtoo is in exam run Jul 24 10:26:12 dcordes: cool, perhaps gnutoo has a cam Jul 24 10:26:24 ah Jul 24 10:26:41 do you have a decent cam ? Jul 24 10:27:01 i have, but atm. not really time to install SHR and do a video Jul 24 10:27:18 pity Jul 24 10:27:28 i'm also not the best one to demonstrate SHR Jul 24 10:27:30 then we must wait for GNUtoo Jul 24 10:27:31 i have no idea how to use it :) Jul 24 10:27:36 lol Jul 24 10:27:38 ok Jul 24 10:28:43 I'm currently in integrate-gps-into-fso-resource-system mode on the dream Jul 24 10:29:01 which is... challening Jul 24 10:29:06 challenging, etven Jul 24 10:29:16 ibot: spell challenging Jul 24 10:29:29 hmm Jul 24 10:29:34 sounds good Jul 24 10:29:35 ~spell challenging Jul 24 10:29:37 'challenging' may be spelled correctly Jul 24 10:29:41 ~botsnack Jul 24 10:29:41 thanks, mickey|tv Jul 24 10:29:45 hi leviathan Jul 24 10:29:51 dcordes: hi Jul 24 10:29:54 mickey|tv: hi Jul 24 10:30:05 did you consider the option to buy a camera ? Jul 24 10:30:07 hi leviathan Jul 24 10:30:14 I recently tried very nice one Jul 24 10:31:17 dcordes: hmm, somehow maxima is broken on htcdream Jul 24 10:31:28 hmm, I should contact the maintainer Jul 24 10:31:30 leviathan: hi Jul 24 10:31:32 ^^ Jul 24 10:33:17 dcordes: do you have an idea? Jul 24 10:33:20 root@htcdream ~ # maxima Jul 24 10:33:20 /usr/lib/maxima/5.21.1/binary-clisp/lisp.run: line 5: syntax error: unexpected ")" Jul 24 10:33:36 leviathan: about what camera to get ? Jul 24 10:33:41 no Jul 24 10:33:50 clisp issue under OE/SHR Jul 24 10:34:09 unexpected ")" Jul 24 10:34:10 wtf? Jul 24 10:58:30 <[Rui]> dcordes: WRT to theming, unless all apps use a common widget set with minimal EDJE stuff it doesn't look good :) Jul 24 10:59:01 <[Rui]> dcordes: but EDJE makes it very easy to theme without needing knowledge of C code :) so the best is to theme like hell on Elementary themes :) Jul 24 10:59:30 <[Rui]> dcordes: there was a challenge an year back, people made a few themes, but I guess grys was the most worked on. Jul 24 10:59:40 <[Rui]> dcordes: niebie was nice, but the worse under sun light Jul 24 10:59:58 get decent panel :) Jul 24 11:00:15 I'm not saying shr looks all that bad Jul 24 11:00:22 I've seen it live on the dream and it was ok Jul 24 11:00:32 you should really update the selection of screenshots though Jul 24 11:00:47 I showed them to some friends and everybody said it's not so nice Jul 24 11:01:05 I think they are also obsolete Jul 24 11:01:10 latest one is 8months old Jul 24 11:01:26 http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Screenshots Jul 24 11:01:52 what I'd like to see is a couple of really high level widgets based on elementary that all get their data from customizable data models. and then a set of tightly connected apps that use these... Jul 24 11:04:58 mrmoku|away: on? Jul 24 11:05:26 mickey|tv: I'm wondering how difficult it would be to replace the buttons by elementary ones Jul 24 11:05:35 especially the numbers in the dialer Jul 24 11:09:05 no idea i'm afraid. i didn't have a look at any of the UI code in SHR Jul 24 11:10:33 i'm still waiting for something high level to come along before diving into foss UI again **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 19:28:14 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 19:31:03 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 24 19:32:15 2010 Jul 24 19:36:39 dos1: guess fighting androisms is tiresome :/ Jul 24 19:37:00 mrmoku: yup, i understand Jul 24 19:37:23 anyway, mickey|zzZZzz, nevermind again, i got it to work :) Jul 24 19:39:16 hey mrmoki Jul 24 19:39:18 *mrmoku Jul 24 19:39:26 I've got a little problem Jul 24 19:39:33 /usr/lib/maxima/5.21.1/binary-clisp/lisp.run: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped Jul 24 19:42:29 leviathan: yeah, saw your mail on oe-devel Jul 24 19:42:49 leviathan: I just swapped harddisk in my laptop... have to rebuild from scratch :/ Jul 24 19:42:57 so I can't test anything today Jul 24 19:43:23 and as JaMa comitted that recipe... it probably is nothing obvious Jul 24 19:50:26 mrmoku: hmm, ok Jul 24 19:50:32 thx anyway Jul 24 19:50:39 perhaps GNUtoo|laptop can help? Jul 24 19:50:59 back,with internet at home, it was long,painfull,difficult but I made it Jul 24 19:51:04 ? Jul 24 19:51:13 GNUtoo|laptop: yes! Jul 24 19:51:18 congratulation Jul 24 19:51:23 how did you do it? Jul 24 19:51:42 hijacked phone line of the village? Jul 24 19:51:53 basically I first scanned the network,there is one named Wireless,you connect to it,you can ping outside but no intenet Jul 24 19:52:00 at first I tried the icmptx Jul 24 19:52:02 no success Jul 24 19:52:07 then I scanned my server's ports Jul 24 19:52:10 and I found: Jul 24 19:52:15 993 open Jul 24 19:52:21 so I put the openvpn there Jul 24 19:52:31 oh, ok ^_^ Jul 24 19:52:35 and you can imagine the rest... Jul 24 19:52:41 yes Jul 24 19:52:51 I had to shut down my mail server tough Jul 24 19:52:52 now I understand "painful" Jul 24 19:52:53 dovecot Jul 24 19:53:06 maybe I change dovecot's port Jul 24 19:53:08 and it's ok Jul 24 19:53:13 anyway Jul 24 19:53:25 I'll do some oe work and test my modification...finally Jul 24 19:54:40 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Jul 24 19:54:41 well Jul 24 19:54:52 GNUtoo|laptop: I've still this issue with maxima Jul 24 19:55:00 ok Jul 24 19:55:02 somehow it builds for x86_64 Jul 24 19:55:07 while it should build for arm Jul 24 19:55:08 you do oe_runconf Jul 24 19:55:18 hmm Jul 24 19:57:00 how do you do make? Jul 24 19:57:00 did you read the maxima README INSTALL etc... Jul 24 19:58:55 the wifi is far... Jul 24 19:58:57 I went closer Jul 24 19:59:01 and my rt2870 doesn't work so well Jul 24 19:59:11 I use the ath9k and am closer now Jul 24 19:59:26 hmm, ok Jul 24 20:00:26 I'm on the balcony now Jul 24 20:00:38 bitbake parse is soo long Jul 24 20:00:45 because internet is slow Jul 24 20:01:12 computer->far away access point--->italy Jul 24 20:01:17 add openvpn tcp on top of that Jul 24 20:02:53 and it's cold on the balcony Jul 24 20:03:33 oh Jul 24 20:03:34 since a long time smoke-addicted people went on the balcony to smoke Jul 24 20:03:41 I do the same but for internet Jul 24 20:03:44 GNUtoo|laptop: like me >_< Jul 24 20:04:02 I'm somehow internet-dependant Jul 24 20:04:17 I'm smoke, coffein and internet dependant Jul 24 20:04:22 ahh, and electricity Jul 24 20:04:26 lol Jul 24 20:04:38 I'm cleaning the gcc* Jul 24 20:05:21 bbs I'll go fetch something to be less cold Jul 24 20:06:31 back Jul 24 20:07:57 wb Jul 24 20:08:20 thanks Jul 24 20:08:24 GNUtoo|laptop: ey, thought about a wifi repeater or so ;-D Jul 24 20:08:39 hmm, you could put one device outside Jul 24 20:08:43 I can make one Jul 24 20:08:50 put networkcable into it Jul 24 20:08:55 and route into the house Jul 24 20:08:56 ;-D Jul 24 20:09:12 if you have netbook+notebook Jul 24 20:09:17 it would be a great idea Jul 24 20:09:31 or you can put the more powerfull device outsize Jul 24 20:09:41 then you have also won better cooling Jul 24 20:09:43 ^^ Jul 24 20:10:24 I've the hardware Jul 24 20:14:17 I'll eat Jul 24 20:15:16 kk Jul 24 20:15:58 GNUtoo|laptop: hopefully not the hardware :P Jul 24 20:16:20 mrmoku, ? Jul 24 20:16:30 ah ok Jul 24 20:16:35 no normal humain food Jul 24 20:16:41 s/no/no, Jul 24 20:17:18 :) Jul 24 20:23:55 oh, man, ofono api is totally f*cked up ;/ Jul 24 20:24:10 dos1: spend your time on more usefull tasks ;) Jul 24 20:24:36 dos1: and... the code is the same as the API :P Jul 24 20:25:20 mrmoku: well... i don't even know how to implement this api in python, using stubs instead of working methods... Jul 24 20:25:36 dos1: why would you want that? Jul 24 20:25:56 mrmoku: ofono->fso wrapper :P Jul 24 20:26:04 heh Jul 24 20:26:05 mrmoku: so ofono apps could work on FSO env Jul 24 20:26:10 ic Jul 24 20:26:20 slowly migrate them... good plan ;) Jul 24 20:26:36 mrmoku: but this api is nightmare... Jul 24 20:27:01 lots of the same method names in the same dbus path, just with different interfaces Jul 24 20:29:43 well, i think i can implement it, but with making total mess in code with it :x Jul 24 20:29:58 as i can't split interfaces into several objects Jul 24 20:30:45 dos1: do you think it's worth it? are there interesting ofono apps out yet? Jul 24 20:32:53 mrmoku: well, i think it's one-or-two-days-project, it will be just awefully messy ;) Jul 24 20:33:33 dos1: concentrate on the camera instead :P Jul 24 20:33:40 mrmoku: as far as i can see ofono api is small subset of what fso can do (with only few addintional things like call duration counter etc.) Jul 24 20:35:00 or... Jul 24 20:35:02 hmm Jul 24 20:35:08 i have an idea :D Jul 24 21:26:18 * ChristW|afk too Jul 24 21:26:30 I'm going to get me some sleep... good night! Jul 24 21:53:18 yeah... sleep... good idea :) Jul 24 21:53:39 gnight to whoever is still alive Jul 24 22:09:20 Hello to the channel Jul 24 22:11:48 I'm searching for JaMa: someone of you can kindly tell me which hour is easy to find him here? Tx Jul 24 22:16:44 None of you? Jul 24 22:17:04 Ok, Bye! Jul 24 23:07:48 hi Jul 24 23:07:55 is there still someone from shr Jul 24 23:08:01 there was some mail about wishlist Jul 24 23:08:29 I've 2 whishes: Jul 24 23:08:34 *a graphical installer Jul 24 23:08:39 *VOIP Jul 24 23:09:21 the VOIP could be used to have a secure phone Jul 24 23:09:37 secure phone? Jul 24 23:09:43 yes Jul 24 23:09:48 for instance : Jul 24 23:10:02 tunnel the phone call into openvpn or something like that Jul 24 23:10:04 on top of wifi Jul 24 23:10:10 the issue is how SIP works Jul 24 23:10:47 the graphical installer would be for advising an FSO phone to people that don't know the command line Jul 24 23:10:50 GNUtoo|laptop: well use openvpn and linphone? Jul 24 23:10:56 yes maybe Jul 24 23:11:03 linphone needs a GUI tough Jul 24 23:11:08 it has a gui Jul 24 23:11:17 and it works well on gta02? Jul 24 23:11:21 yes Jul 24 23:11:23 wow Jul 24 23:11:26 * GNUtoo|laptop will try that Jul 24 23:12:00 * GNUtoo|laptop will try to fix recording audio on htcdream for having linphone there too Jul 24 23:12:22 I'll try that maybe tomorrow Jul 24 23:12:40 btw I'm not shure openvpn would work in the default configuration Jul 24 23:12:49 but maybe iptables + openvpn Jul 24 23:12:57 for altering the routing table for linphone Jul 24 23:13:03 because the issue is this one Jul 24 23:13:16 audio and initialization protocol are separated Jul 24 23:13:22 SIP initiate the call Jul 24 23:13:54 I'm don't remember exactly how it works Jul 24 23:14:00 GNUtoo|laptop: that's easy. the problem is that the recipient does not have openvpn :) Jul 24 23:14:00 but maybe,*maybe* Jul 24 23:14:09 ah that's not an issue Jul 24 23:14:22 if that's not an issue then this can be made to work Jul 24 23:14:22 I install openvpn on the recipient Jul 24 23:14:27 ok Jul 24 23:14:30 how? Jul 24 23:14:40 just setup normal openvpn tunnel Jul 24 23:14:47 and it magically works Jul 24 23:15:00 RTP magically go trough the vpn? Jul 24 23:15:03 and use some 10.X.Y.0/24 for it Jul 24 23:15:05 and not trough the internet? Jul 24 23:15:13 for instance: Jul 24 23:15:20 it will if you tell linucast to talk to e.g. 10.X.Y.Z Jul 24 23:15:26 internet + vpn(192.168.10.x) Jul 24 23:15:31 eh, not linucast, linphone :) Jul 24 23:15:42 linphone registers to 192.168.10.1 Jul 24 23:15:45 (linucast is a finnish podcast) Jul 24 23:15:47 ok Jul 24 23:15:49 lol Jul 24 23:15:58 and then what happens to RTP? Jul 24 23:16:03 does it go trough internet Jul 24 23:16:04 ? Jul 24 23:16:10 or trough 192.168.10.1 Jul 24 23:16:12 GNUtoo|laptop: it'll use 192.168.10.1 too Jul 24 23:16:13 I've asterisk Jul 24 23:16:21 so asterisk does MITM Jul 24 23:16:22 ok Jul 24 23:16:23 nice Jul 24 23:16:32 I must try Jul 24 23:16:35 asterisk here too Jul 24 23:16:46 not shure if I can fetch my freerunner now Jul 24 23:16:48 both at home and work Jul 24 23:16:51 I'm on a balcony Jul 24 23:17:23 and there are family looking at a movie between the room where are my phone and me Jul 24 23:18:05 the "you are about to enter an eccho test" is not a valid proof I bet Jul 24 23:18:13 because it's not a real call Jul 24 23:18:14 hmmm Jul 24 23:18:37 movie finished Jul 24 23:18:44 but now it's time to go to bed... Jul 24 23:19:21 maybe, it's 2 am in finland Jul 24 23:19:54 but it's way too hot in here Jul 24 23:27:21 thanks a lot and bye **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 02:59:57 2010