**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 09 02:59:57 2010 Aug 09 03:44:47 JaMa: the htcleo shr-lite-image doesn't include xserver-xorg-fbdev module nor Xfbdev Aug 09 03:45:03 Xfbdev is default in SHR ? Aug 09 03:45:23 (in /etc/X11/ thre are scripts that use Xfbdev) Aug 09 05:07:33 dcordes: whatever is specified in machine config (XSERVER var) Aug 09 05:08:16 dcordes: and Xorg is sort of expected in SHR (xserver-common) Aug 09 07:03:26 <[Rui]> moin Aug 09 07:04:16 gm Aug 09 07:04:36 <[Rui]> JaMa: that patch I did for json-c will possibly be integrated in svn this week... I bugged Michael Clark again and he said he was a bit behind on email :) Aug 09 07:04:54 <[Rui]> resent the patch so hopefully we'll soon be able to remove the patch and just point to an svn rev Aug 09 07:05:19 [Rui]: ok Aug 09 07:05:53 [Rui]: what about the 2nd lib you needed for elmdentica? is it needed for next EFL_SRCREV bump? Aug 09 07:06:35 <[Rui]> JaMa: not yet, I'm having some trouble adapting oauth workflow and I'm not sure if that lib actually works as advertised... Aug 09 07:06:56 <[Rui]> JaMa: but netxt efl_srcrev bump will bring goodies from elmdentica too :) Aug 09 07:07:54 <[Rui]> I am, however, very bugged about a weird bug where it will sometimes crash in the timeline load, most of the times at the first attempt to download, but in unpredictable times Aug 09 07:08:06 <[Rui]> but that has been happening for a while... Aug 09 07:08:43 ok, thanks for status update Aug 09 07:08:54 <[Rui]> also I don't like to test a lot on my laptop as for some reason the https support in curl seems a bit broken in fedora (same code works all the time in shr, fails *always* in fedora at some curl_nss point) Aug 09 07:12:04 * JaMa rebuilding his gentoo system from scratch with gcc-4.5.1 :) Aug 09 07:13:02 <[Rui]> shudder... Aug 09 07:13:29 <[Rui]> JaMa: you must have a lot of free time (patience I already know you do) :) Aug 09 07:13:51 [Rui]: all my rebuilds from scratch are during work hours... :) Aug 09 07:14:26 [Rui]: so it's way to keep my attention away from my home computer (only checking if it's still running from time to time) Aug 09 07:15:40 <[Rui]> JaMa: hehe... my home computer is my media center, and my laptop is my daily work machine so... I'm lazy and prefer freshly baken packages from the distro ;) Aug 09 07:16:29 <[Rui]> JaMa: expecting a lot of performance boost from gcc-4.5.1? Aug 09 07:17:13 with -lto enabled yes.. but I didn't enable it for whole system Aug 09 07:22:02 <[Rui]> ah Aug 09 07:22:23 <[Rui]> well... tomorrow begins my two-week long sleep deprivation experiment "vacation".... Aug 09 07:22:51 <[Rui]> oh, and free-tmie deprivation too Aug 09 07:23:00 <[Rui]> s/tmie/time Aug 09 07:23:42 <[Rui]> finally the baby will be born Aug 09 07:24:10 yay, now it looks much better than "long sleep deprivation experiment" :) Aug 09 07:24:14 congratz! Aug 09 07:24:34 <[Rui]> thanks :) Aug 09 07:24:48 * JaMa wants baby too, but still looking for right woman .. :) Aug 09 07:24:53 <[Rui]> hehehe Aug 09 07:25:59 <[Rui]> oops, gotta go for my last day of work :) Aug 09 07:29:34 I've give up in playing with neo1973, it's too slow... both QtMoko, SHR Aug 09 07:30:08 pen9u1n: UI? Aug 09 07:30:26 Yes Aug 09 07:30:36 pen9u1n: try to build 2.6.3x kernel without debug for nice speedup and send us used defconfig Aug 09 07:30:59 pen9u1n: few patches from 2.6.31-gta01 branch need to be ported to 2.6.34 before building it Aug 09 07:31:34 pen9u1n: got some way to measure UI speed? Aug 09 07:31:42 JaMa, I'm trying to build SHR-unstable, first make setup not finished yet. Aug 09 07:32:10 lindi-, no, just feeling Aug 09 07:32:27 pen9u1n: good start, thanks Aug 09 07:33:48 JaMa, The last shr-unstable image do not work Aug 09 07:34:57 pen9u1n: someone reported broken calibration.. the same for you? Aug 09 07:38:42 while we are at calibration...my Display recognizes a click in all 4 corners, but a touch in the lower border is displaced, broken display? Aug 09 07:42:01 JaMa, I followed the doc in the manual, just run xinput_calibration_once.sh when language select dialog present. then touchscreen is ok. Aug 09 07:42:57 pen9u1n: so the only problem you had with latest image, was that it wasn't run for you automatically during boot? Aug 09 07:43:31 testing image works, but unstable image not. Aug 09 07:43:53 what's wrong with unstable image? Aug 09 07:44:08 I know that gsm won't work Aug 09 07:44:37 with unstable image, kernel print many "Alignment trap xxxx PC=xxxx, Instr=xxx", you know this issue? Aug 09 07:44:55 And it cann't startup UI Aug 09 07:45:03 because fso configs expects 2.6.3x kernel sysfs paths, but we still don't have 2.6.3x kernel for gta01 (or gta01 as device to test it) Aug 09 07:45:22 pen9u1n: Alignment traps are known and "harmless" Aug 09 07:45:31 I can help for testing on gta01 Aug 09 07:45:52 pen9u1n: if you can ssh to it.. then try to start Xorg -verbose 3 & and pastebin the output Aug 09 07:47:38 I'll try it later when I go home, I'm working now. Aug 09 07:47:47 ok, me too :) Aug 09 07:48:26 I guess the Alignment traps slow down the device very much Aug 09 07:49:14 pen9u1n: I know, but you can at least disable logging those and it won't stop Xorg from starting.. Aug 09 07:49:50 pen9u1n: and I haven't seen any slow down with and without those (without using any kind of benchmark) Aug 09 07:50:36 I remember that Last unstable kernel image panic after mmcblk0p1... Aug 09 07:51:21 I'm using testing kernel + partially upgraded packages Aug 09 07:53:21 I'm not hope to make call on the gta01, nor as a daily phone, just a gadget that I can play with it. Aug 09 07:54:16 it shouldn't be that hard to get calls again on shr-u@gta01 Aug 09 07:58:10 hope so Aug 09 08:00:25 pen9u1n: this needs to be ported to 2.6.3[24] (better work only on 2.6.34) http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/gta01-machine-2.6.31 Aug 09 08:02:30 just the last 4 commits? Aug 09 08:06:58 yes Aug 09 08:11:49 morning Aug 09 08:14:14 morning | afternoon Aug 09 10:05:24 morgen Aug 09 10:07:01 JaMa: you're still after unifying the native and non-native cmakes? Aug 09 10:07:22 JaMa: http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/2501/ - this is the separate non-native cmake recipe Aug 09 10:07:45 JaMa: but as you managed to get the conditional-inherit working, the rest is probably easy Aug 09 10:08:27 JaMa: should I try to create a unified cmake recipe? Aug 09 10:08:33 can I help somehow on this "alignment trap" thing in libc6 in shr-u? Aug 09 10:08:46 that one really bothers me Aug 09 10:18:03 zub: I just sent how to do it and then used separate non-native for my webkit-efl build Aug 09 10:18:59 Wonka: log from #oe today: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/247924/ Aug 09 10:19:00 non-native? :) Aug 09 10:19:12 zub: native/non-native Aug 09 10:20:45 Wonka: but if you feel experienced enough, try to fix it faster then khem :) Aug 09 10:22:12 JaMa: hmf, I don't feel experienced enough - but at least someone seems to be on it, then ;) Aug 09 10:22:44 will try how shr-u runs with "quiet" instead of "verbose"... Aug 09 10:22:47 JaMa: what to expect from the eglibc bump? Aug 09 10:22:52 JaMa: thx Aug 09 10:23:11 mrmoku: nothing Aug 09 10:23:19 heh, ok :P Aug 09 10:23:20 mrmoku: only version string is changed Aug 09 10:23:34 1.12 -> 1.12.1 Aug 09 10:25:01 talking about cmake... cmake-native failed for me Aug 09 10:25:18 JaMa: oe is using the hosts gcc to build native packages, right? Aug 09 10:25:30 (which is not always good on fedora systems ;) Aug 09 10:25:35 mrmoku: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/247927/ Aug 09 10:25:38 | /usr/bin/ld: note: 'cbreak' is defined in DSO /home/mok/shrbuild/build/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5 so try adding it to the linker command line Aug 09 10:25:40 mrmoku: right Aug 09 10:25:59 mrmoku: isn't tinfo from ncurses? Aug 09 10:26:22 I think so... but on current fedora lazy linking does not work Aug 09 10:26:29 mrmoku: I hope you started rebuild *after* /me pushing that preferred-version for that Aug 09 10:26:29 you have to explicitely specify all libs Aug 09 10:26:38 yep Aug 09 10:26:40 you mean as-needed? Aug 09 10:26:56 ncurses-native-5.7-r10 Aug 09 10:27:08 JaMa: I think it was as-needed that changed, yes Aug 09 10:27:47 I'm using as-needed for long on my gentoo box.. and now gentoo enabled it by default Aug 09 10:27:55 still haven't seen this error Aug 09 10:28:08 hmm Aug 09 10:28:44 JaMa: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnderstandingDSOLinkChange Aug 09 10:33:03 --as-needed should not imply breakage of .so deps Aug 09 10:33:11 (haven't read link ^ yet, though) Aug 09 10:34:11 basically you can't refer to a symbol of a lib you get indirectly by linking to another lib Aug 09 11:40:23 zub: if you're working on cmake... you could add 2.8.0 too :) Aug 09 11:41:03 fedora is using that one without any patches... so I guess it learned to link against tinfo too Aug 09 11:43:42 mrmoku: see oe patchwork :) Aug 09 11:44:01 mrmoku: there is 2.8.2 from zub Aug 09 11:47:26 JaMa: ohh... :) Aug 09 11:47:29 zub: thanks :D Aug 09 11:48:21 mrmoku: btw you need 3 patches Aug 09 12:02:33 JaMa: 2466, 2468 and 2501 I guess Aug 09 12:04:10 mrmoku: y Aug 09 12:06:09 mrmoku: kein problem :) Aug 09 12:11:03 zub: :) Aug 09 12:12:24 shr-lite-image@htcdream built Aug 09 12:12:38 up to the next one... Aug 09 12:12:38 | /usr/bin/ld: note: 'LINES' is defined in DSO /home/mok/shrbuild/build/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5 so try adding it to the linker command line Aug 09 12:12:55 same problem with util-linux-ng-native :/ Aug 09 12:13:31 * JaMa should upload his OE chroot Aug 09 12:13:32 :) Aug 09 12:13:43 * mrmoku would then download it :) Aug 09 12:14:20 probably I should seriously consider to setup something like that... Aug 09 12:15:16 658M /home/projects/OE-chroot/ Aug 09 12:15:39 mrmoku: this is caused by --as-needed? Aug 09 12:16:21 zub: as I understand dso change in fedore it's not about --as-needed Aug 09 12:16:35 aha ok, I still haven't read the link ^ Aug 09 12:20:31 zub: it's something like --as-needed && --no-undefined Aug 09 12:20:48 and mandriva people name it underlinking :) Aug 09 12:20:59 http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Underlinking Aug 09 12:23:02 mrmoku: http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/13262260.html Aug 09 12:23:38 it sounds to me like a sane change and a solution is to specify deps correctly Aug 09 12:24:09 although it can probably break lots of old recipes:-/ Aug 09 12:25:31 (ok, got it's fedora related) Aug 09 12:25:37 yep, sounds sane... but gives me pain :;P Aug 09 12:25:55 wtf --no-add-needed :) Aug 09 12:26:00 http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/13268350.html Aug 09 12:26:32 * JaMa confused completely Aug 09 12:29:57 mrmoku: do you have 64bit host? Aug 09 12:41:44 145M OE-chroot.tar.bz2 Aug 09 12:44:10 but it's -march=barcelona so not usefull to many hosts :/ Aug 09 12:49:36 JaMa: yep, 64bit Aug 09 12:49:56 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz Aug 09 12:50:04 is what I have... dunno if barcelona fits Aug 09 12:52:06 hi Aug 09 12:52:18 JaMa: you built it with gentoo? Aug 09 12:52:57 mrmoku: yup Aug 09 12:54:03 JaMa: regarding the lack of xf86-video-driver in htcleo image Aug 09 12:54:11 mrmoku: uploading for test :) Aug 09 12:54:29 JaMa: htc-qsd8.inc includes xserver-xorg and xf86-video-fbdev Aug 09 12:54:44 JaMa: which is not installed in the image you got Aug 09 12:55:52 JaMa: sorry xserver is installed, but not the fbdev driver Aug 09 12:56:13 JaMa: maybe you have some local override ? Aug 09 12:56:43 no Aug 09 12:57:39 please extract task-x11-server and check Depends in control file Aug 09 12:57:51 ok Aug 09 12:58:09 where can I find it ? Aug 09 12:58:55 seems like PACKAGE_ARCH_pn-${PN}-server = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" didn't work for htcleo Aug 09 12:59:40 how can we resolve this ? Aug 09 13:01:28 set PACKAGE_ARCH for whole task-x11 should probably help Aug 09 13:01:47 hmm can you elaborate ? Aug 09 13:02:55 mmt Aug 09 13:09:00 mrmoku: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/chroot/ Aug 09 13:12:50 JaMa: methyl-m-tyrosin ? Aug 09 13:13:09 dcordes: ? Aug 09 13:13:42 JaMa: what you mean by mmt ? Aug 09 13:13:57 moment I'm building it Aug 09 13:14:10 ok thx Aug 09 13:19:18 dcordes: fixed http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=bf3cf7b95cb10c830c39ca4bfec4e7fcc19dad83 Aug 09 13:20:07 JaMa: nice. I will do a complete rebuild Aug 09 13:20:26 JaMa: do you know how to incldue no kernel ? Aug 09 13:20:30 JaMa: thanks Aug 09 13:21:02 dcordes: ASSUME_PROVIDED Aug 09 13:21:25 but not sure if it will be enough to satisfy RDEPENDS of image Aug 09 13:21:47 dcordes: better to download that kernel by hand.. Aug 09 13:21:47 mhm I will just start over then and if kenrel fails I will fetch it manually Aug 09 13:21:52 yeah Aug 09 13:22:08 just fix it with bitbake -c fetch -D -b ../../linux-* Aug 09 13:22:18 and download it manually now Aug 09 13:22:22 rebuilding wont help Aug 09 13:24:31 in worst case I can give you tarball as I clearly have it.. NOTE: package linux-qsd8-2.6.32+r52+gitr01e2c3f2662d5da31bcf5498381509fbb1e6b40f-r52: task do_fetch: Succeeded Aug 09 13:24:48 JaMa: you still have tmpdir on ramdisk? Aug 09 13:25:18 mrmoku: raid0 (/tmp) Aug 09 13:25:21 ahh Aug 09 13:25:23 mrmoku: but only tmpdir/work Aug 09 13:25:31 mrmoku: tmpdir itself is raid5 Aug 09 13:25:57 and downloads are different (big) disk :) Aug 09 13:26:45 because I have really *a lot* of those :) Aug 09 13:27:33 :) Aug 09 13:34:48 lindi-: was it you who was interested in webkit-chromium api + some hello world browser? Aug 09 13:36:25 72G /media/externi/OE-downloads/ Aug 09 13:37:43 JaMa: and OE has openembedded checkout + bitbake + ? Aug 09 13:39:49 JaMa: at least my CPU seems to be barcelona compatible :-) Aug 09 13:40:15 ahh... bitbake is in /usr/bin Aug 09 13:41:05 mrmoku: you can use bitbake from chroot Aug 09 13:41:17 mrmoku: bitbake from master.. Aug 09 13:41:36 ok, so OE is the openembedded checkout only? Aug 09 13:42:13 no Aug 09 13:42:27 I have everything related to OE there (checkout, tmpdirs, another projects dir) Aug 09 13:42:36 but all in OE is owned by bitbake user Aug 09 13:42:42 and it's also $HOME for bitbake Aug 09 14:14:56 hi dcordes, how are things? Aug 09 14:28:23 hi JaMa Aug 09 14:28:37 any news on htcdream images? Aug 09 14:28:38 GNUtoo|htcdream: hi.. I know why htcdream had glamo in image :) Aug 09 14:28:59 ok Aug 09 14:29:01 GNUtoo|htcdream: shr-lite built.. still waiting for full image and feed Aug 09 14:29:01 why? Aug 09 14:29:15 http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=bf3cf7b95cb10c830c39ca4bfec4e7fcc19dad83 Aug 09 14:29:34 btw I recruited bob copeland but he dont't have muxh time either Aug 09 14:29:36 now the image will be fine, but ie task-x11-dbg still fscked.. Aug 09 14:29:51 hmmm Aug 09 14:30:04 NOTE: Running task 6986 of 10437 Aug 09 14:30:06 what's the content of the link? Aug 09 14:30:48 ok with the console i launched mifori Aug 09 14:30:54 at that address Aug 09 14:31:03 GNUtoo|htcdream: PACKAGE_ARCH_pn-${PN}-server doesn't work Aug 09 14:31:14 changed to PACKAGE_ARCH_${PN}-server in task-x11 Aug 09 14:31:31 that's why all SHR machines were getting XSERVER var from whatever was built first Aug 09 14:31:32 lol ok Aug 09 14:31:38 typos... Aug 09 14:32:23 hi mickeyl Aug 09 14:32:39 it probably worked in some point .. because there is ~20 more overrides like this Aug 09 14:32:54 ahh ok Aug 09 14:33:00 hi GNUtoo|htcdream Aug 09 14:33:22 mickey|office: any news...btw I've an issue with 3g Aug 09 14:33:36 s/news/news? Aug 09 14:34:00 GNUtoo|htcdream: no news here, need to spend some time on non-computer things, so i'll have even fewer time for FSO Aug 09 14:34:10 what's with 3g? Aug 09 14:35:17 basically I can't activate or desactivate pdp context when outgoing Aug 09 14:35:48 I get that when it's not yet registered or ready Aug 09 14:35:57 then it stays like that Aug 09 14:36:09 basically Aug 09 14:36:16 I boot the phone Aug 09 14:36:46 I ask for 3g before beeing ready Aug 09 14:36:47 and...It says connecting Aug 09 14:37:04 and It stays in this mode ethernally Aug 09 14:37:26 even if you stop the 3g Aug 09 14:37:39 which doesn't work Aug 09 14:38:23 btw after finishing talking on that issue could you PM me? Aug 09 14:38:58 or I'll pm you Aug 09 14:39:02 better Aug 09 14:39:17 because I don't know irssi well Aug 09 14:43:39 JaMa: are there any report yet on shr-light images? Aug 09 14:43:55 GNUtoo|htcdream: no, it's not synced to public feed Aug 09 14:43:59 s/light/lite Aug 09 14:44:03 ok Aug 09 14:44:22 they will miss calls tough Aug 09 14:48:30 ok, i need to limit PDP context activation to ALIVE_REGISTERED modem status Aug 09 14:51:36 mickey|office: that would be welcome :-) Aug 09 15:00:07 JaMa: started a build with your chroot... probably we should make that the official building way Aug 09 15:00:49 not sure if gentoo is distribution all users are comfortable with Aug 09 15:01:00 s/users/builders/ Aug 09 15:01:00 JaMa meant: not sure if gentoo is distribution all builders are comfortable with Aug 09 15:01:15 but I can update tarball once a while Aug 09 15:02:14 maybe we can build x86 image with OE as minimal chroot :) Aug 09 15:02:42 and also for chroot you need root access :/ Aug 09 15:04:55 dcordes: try newer image http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/htcleo/ Aug 09 15:18:38 JaMa: yeah, I ment the chroot-way in general... not necessarily yours Aug 09 15:18:51 and minimal chroot built by OE for building with OE sounds like a nice thing :) Aug 09 15:38:28 Hi, I have created a program for shr (or any other distro that runs edje) and It works compiled on x86, now I need to compile it for the ARM. It seems like there is no working toolchain for the shr, and I do not have space for compiling the whole shr-image using bitbake. Does anyone have any suggestions for what to do? Aug 09 15:44:28 Daramarak: you might be able to compile on the FR (or other hardware..?) if you have a big enough SD card. It's slow, but MUCH less annoying than fiddling around with cross compilers Aug 09 15:45:55 and distcc + ccache 3 help a lot Aug 09 15:47:36 also, putting the source code on an NFS mount and running whatever downloads (especially git) on the proper machine works excellently Aug 09 15:47:58 compiling takes a long time, but at least you get to read a book :) Aug 09 15:51:20 Well I could need to read a book :) Aug 09 15:51:44 perhaps that is the way then. How big a card do I need? Aug 09 15:52:34 if you're going to build an E "stack", maybe 1Gb or so Aug 09 15:52:54 less if you strip all the binaries etc Aug 09 15:53:14 I didn't strip anything, and squeezed a basic X system based on Debian into 512Mb Aug 09 15:54:30 Ok, I got a 2GB card with little else on it. I'll have to read up on distcc though. I am not that fond of reading :) Aug 09 15:55:01 hehe Aug 09 16:11:17 ThibG, hi, have you got the glamo patches reviewed? Aug 09 16:11:28 hey Aug 09 16:11:29 no Aug 09 16:11:53 I'm suffering from jetlag right now, but I think I'll ping Samuel in a few days Aug 09 17:42:07 bahhh Aug 09 17:42:09 * TAsn is tired Aug 09 17:50:24 mrmoku, dos1: I'm honestly too tired to do anything, in a mail just sent to e-devels they said the edj file format has changed and that we should run all of the edj files we have through edje_convert (edje_cc does not yet compile to the new format). Aug 09 17:51:49 heyho Aug 09 17:51:53 we can add it to recipes with next efl bump :) Aug 09 17:56:05 JaMa, whatever :) Aug 09 17:56:18 sec, i'll forward this email to shr-devel Aug 09 18:01:10 TAsn: hmm... at least backwards compatible ;) Aug 09 18:04:17 the format, yes. Aug 09 18:04:26 but the new loader won't load old format. Aug 09 18:04:34 which is to be honest WEIRD :P Aug 09 18:12:34 TAsn: weird thing that edje in general ;) Aug 09 18:13:23 Indeed :) Aug 09 18:16:30 TAsn: mail says that edje_cc will work Aug 09 18:16:56 TAsn: it will just issue edje_convert at the end of compiling, instead of compiling directly to new format, until he sends his patch Aug 09 18:17:13 dos1, yes. Aug 09 18:28:38 morphis: ping Aug 09 18:28:46 guys, I need your help Aug 09 18:28:51 help me remember what sucks about opkg Aug 09 18:28:53 :) Aug 09 18:28:59 how is it going? Aug 09 18:29:10 TAsn: --help needs root Aug 09 18:29:30 lindi-, ? Aug 09 18:29:56 TAsn: you need root privileges to run opkg --help Aug 09 18:29:56 papa-piet_getsid: pong Aug 09 18:30:08 lindi-, honestly? Aug 09 18:30:09 lol. Aug 09 18:30:20 sounds like a configuration error Aug 09 18:30:24 morphis: any news on palm pre? Aug 09 18:30:30 have you tried setting correct permissions on the opkg files? Aug 09 18:30:43 papa-piet_getsid: jepp, I am currently integrating the msmcomm protocol into fsogsmd Aug 09 18:30:50 TAsn: you probably run everything as root so you do not notice? Aug 09 18:30:58 actually working on the sim part (phonebook, etc.) Aug 09 18:31:25 TAsn: i need root to change permissions :) Aug 09 18:31:44 papa-piet_getsid: you have one? Aug 09 18:31:46 morphis: I finally ordered a pre Aug 09 18:32:20 lindi-, :) Aug 09 18:32:34 so let me know if testing/help needed Aug 09 18:32:37 lindi-, I meant: try changing the permissions once, see if that's it. Aug 09 18:32:38 papa-piet_getsid: great, the plus variant or the normal one? Aug 09 18:32:39 if it is Aug 09 18:32:44 fix the damn debian package. Aug 09 18:32:49 normal one :/ Aug 09 18:32:54 papa-piet_getsid: jepp, a lot of testing is needed Aug 09 18:32:56 too expensive Aug 09 18:32:57 ah ok Aug 09 18:33:14 you have some oe skills? Aug 09 18:33:28 TAsn: also opkg is not in debian or ubuntu so i can not easily test :) Aug 09 18:33:30 as we need more oe support for the palm pre to build proper images as far as possible Aug 09 18:33:40 maybe already SHR integration Aug 09 18:33:50 morphis: not yet Aug 09 18:33:54 ok Aug 09 18:34:21 will let you know when I have something to test Aug 09 18:34:29 lindi-, oh right, you got a decent package manager. Aug 09 18:36:13 TAsn: debian has both apt-get and rpm/yum Aug 09 18:37:24 really? I didn't know that ;) Aug 09 18:37:27 never used debain. Aug 09 18:37:29 debian. Aug 09 20:25:28 mrmoku: ping Aug 09 20:43:49 onen|openBmap: pong Aug 09 20:43:59 a Aug 09 20:44:04 mrmoku: abend Aug 09 20:44:31 mrmoku: how are shr images these days, ok for me to flash for updating obm client? Aug 09 20:44:49 onen|openBmap: I would think so, yes Aug 09 20:44:56 mrmoku: I mean, images are stable enough, so that I can update my shr, and keep working on obm client? Aug 09 20:45:15 onen|openBmap: sure Aug 09 20:46:20 mrmoku: ok, good. I'll try to do so asap. I am (again) on vacations, and probably without Internet connection, so I doubt I can make it before the end of the month :-( Aug 09 20:46:37 onen|openBmap: vacations sounds like fun :-) Aug 09 20:46:46 mrmoku: indeed ;-) Aug 09 20:46:51 will be on vacations too versus the end of august :) Aug 09 20:46:52 mrmoku: how were yours? Aug 09 20:47:05 onen|openBmap: too long ago ;) Aug 09 20:47:17 mrmoku: always so :D Aug 09 20:47:40 onen|openBmap: we will go to italy on 19th for two weeks and then one week to croatia Aug 09 20:48:03 mrmoku: I have headr croatia is a very beautiful country Aug 09 20:48:18 yup :) Aug 09 20:48:18 mrmoku: of course italy too ;-) Aug 09 20:48:52 onen|openBmap: though italy is less vacation and more wife's family... Aug 09 20:48:57 * mrmoku refuses to call that vacation ;) Aug 09 20:48:57 mrmoku: ok we'll keep in touch, then. ttyl. Have nice vacations! Aug 09 20:49:05 yeah, you too Aug 09 20:49:21 mrmoku: :D then my "vacations" are only half time vacations too ;-) Aug 09 20:49:30 hehe Aug 09 20:53:03 hi, any news about 2.6.32 or higher kernels? Aug 09 20:54:20 i am mainly interested in too high current_now in suspend - i have ~12mA on 2.6.29 and with 2.6.32 it's ~18mA sometimes even more Aug 09 20:55:30 radekp: with or without GSM? Aug 09 20:55:42 radekp: I have reported all my news to bug tracker I think Aug 09 20:55:53 lindi-: GSM on #1024 fixed Aug 09 20:55:59 radekp: try with GSM off Aug 09 20:56:06 radekp: it should be ~3 mA Aug 09 20:56:24 hmm oki i can try Aug 09 20:57:18 mrmoku, now it's actually time to release a stable/testing since we slowed down a lot (dev wise) Aug 09 21:02:02 TAsn: heh, but not because there is nothing to do ;) Aug 09 21:02:18 :P Aug 09 21:04:00 there is only one show-stopper in newer shr-t images (from what users on ML said..) Aug 09 21:04:46 which is? Aug 09 21:09:58 One show stopper, the rest can go as 'known issues': - importing contacts from SIM doesn't finish clean - some numbers are Aug 09 21:10:01 either not imported or are missing the last digit -> contacts unusable Aug 09 21:10:04 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td5307993 Aug 09 21:13:30 JaMa|Zzz, weird. Aug 09 21:13:37 where's Thomas? Aug 09 21:21:35 JaMa|Zzz: that's fsogsmd if you ask me Aug 09 21:21:45 fsogsmd had some bug regarding that Aug 09 21:22:00 * mrmoku goes ZzZ too now :) Aug 09 21:22:03 gnight all Aug 09 23:22:02 Hello, I can't imagine another place to ask right now so I'll just do it here with hopes that there are some clever tech geeks online: I built a cheap "home automation system" using radio controlled power sockets from the diy-market and controlling the remote control with a micro controller which is hooked up to the server via RS232. The remote control has got some sort of copper coil/spiral/helix as antenna. My problem is that some Aug 09 23:22:03 times certain power sockets do not recieve a signal because it seems to bee too weak! So how to improve transmission power? Can I just connect a metal clothes-hanger or something like that via a cable or do I need a special antenna? Aug 09 23:43:33 pandora one Aug 09 23:43:49 n1 use it? Aug 09 23:55:15 what is that? Aug 09 23:55:29 is it this open source game handheld? Aug 09 23:59:44 no **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 10 02:59:58 2010