**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 31 02:59:57 2010 Aug 31 06:22:40 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rcd2c433393e4 10/zhone2/src/main.vala: Aug 31 06:22:41 freesmartphone.org: zhone2: deactivate current screen size detection as upstream API has changed Aug 31 06:22:41 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Aug 31 06:22:42 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r197809de1ca0 10/zhone2/ (configure.ac src/main.vala src/phonebookpage.vala): Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.freesmartphone.org/aurora Aug 31 10:34:23 ~seen serdar Aug 31 10:34:28 serdar <~Serdar@dslb-084-062-245-183.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 144d 1h 11m 17s ago, saying: 'I got time.'. Aug 31 10:35:08 is there anyone who wants to take the wheel in submitting a SHR/FSO/OM devroom? Aug 31 10:35:11 to fsodem Aug 31 10:35:13 err Aug 31 10:35:14 FOSDEM Aug 31 10:49:52 <[Rui]> hms... FOSDEM... time to plan my journey, if I can... I'll be on paternity leave by then, so it's a matter of finding someone to stay with the baby on friday and monday (when the wife's working) Aug 31 10:56:20 last year serdar dere organized, but he seems to be pretty much absent these days Aug 31 11:14:20 <[Rui]> mickey|office: he sent a pretty #disturbing email (if it was really him) recently. Aug 31 11:15:15 [Rui]: hmm, i think i recall that. ya, was somewhat strange Aug 31 11:15:23 <[Rui]> reminded me of a story @bkuhn once told me about a guy who was helping around at FSF and suddenly he disappeared. Aug 31 11:15:45 <[Rui]> after some time he met him on the street, asked how he was, if everything was ok... Aug 31 11:16:05 <[Rui]> the answer was something like: «God isn't with Free Software», turned his back, went away. Aug 31 11:16:12 wah Aug 31 11:16:16 quite a statement Aug 31 11:31:26 mickey|office: moin Aug 31 11:31:47 how feels Nokia in your hands? Aug 31 11:33:18 better than the FR Aug 31 11:33:30 although i'm somewhat surprised that the UI is so laggy and stuttering Aug 31 11:33:46 given the horsepower i imagined everything was superfluid Aug 31 11:35:32 <[Rui]> mickey|office: CPU and proprietary graphics drivers, yeah, surprising (also noticed it when I tried it at a Nokia store, but thought it could have a lot running from other people trying it) Aug 31 11:36:30 mickey|office: hmhm, you already upgraded to recent OS version? As it's quite questionable how well the PR1.0.? that ships with it really performs Aug 31 11:36:55 i only applied one OTA update yet Aug 31 11:37:12 so it's probably still PR 1.0 Aug 31 11:37:29 that should have installed PR.12 I'd guess Aug 31 11:37:34 ah, k Aug 31 11:37:49 anyways, what counts is the hackability Aug 31 11:37:53 not how maemo performs ;) Aug 31 11:37:54 (for me) Aug 31 11:38:03 since i won't be using it anyways Aug 31 11:38:03 settings - prod.info should tell "*2010-19*" Aug 31 11:38:10 right, will take a look when i'm home Aug 31 11:38:26 (hackability) sure :-) Aug 31 11:40:33 still it's on your discretion whether you want to do all the heavy lifting and port OE kernel to it, or maybe keep maemo kernel, or something derived from maemo kernel, or even maybe go for meego kernel and core system. The userland and middleware is completely unrelated aiui Aug 31 11:41:02 yeah, i have no idea right now how to start Aug 31 11:41:18 i'll wait until mrmoku is back ;· Aug 31 11:41:20 ) Aug 31 11:41:52 do you know how involved it is to boot a custom kernel + rootfs? Aug 31 11:42:03 i.e. via the custom SD or NFS? Aug 31 11:44:17 meego does this all the time now Aug 31 11:44:22 so the whole team is now equipped with n900? cool Aug 31 11:44:32 aiui the got their whole system on uSD for now Aug 31 11:44:57 that sounds good Aug 31 11:45:48 anywayke a little bit of care, rumour has it N900 isn't as unbrickable as e.g. FR Aug 31 11:46:11 ok Aug 31 11:46:23 messing with NOLO bootloader might result in a deadlock, though no real incidents known yet Aug 31 11:49:39 anyway, NOLO, like every normal sane bootloader, just loads arbitrary binary program text. So of course can chainload: http://imagebin.org/112079 Aug 31 11:51:21 nevertheless what meego does afaik is entering a bootmenu early in maemo linux kernel bootup, and then kexec to meego, or sth along that line Aug 31 11:52:50 also there's NITdroid, a andridiot spinoff. Dunno much about it, but they also seem to be able to crank up a proprietary kernel and userland Aug 31 11:53:16 ok, interesting Aug 31 11:53:20 need to read up on all that Aug 31 11:53:27 bummer every device handles that on its own Aug 31 11:53:34 yep :-/ Aug 31 11:54:56 btw proprietary kernels in maemo are really common, I guess 20% of users installed powerkernel Aug 31 11:56:05 and in hostmode project we also need to have a custom kernel, which has patches to the musb-core driver and associated USB cruft Aug 31 11:57:18 so at least that is really tested stuff, there's little mystery in replacing maemo stock kernel by something more custom tailored Aug 31 11:57:47 good Aug 31 11:58:01 i guess i'd like to start with checking how fsodeviced works on it Aug 31 11:58:01 Nokia managed to keep all the proprietary stuff outside kernel Aug 31 11:58:16 so all i need is a barebones rootfs with usbnet Aug 31 11:58:26 so i can login Aug 31 11:58:43 do rm -rf / and you're done :-P Aug 31 11:59:22 i'm afraid that's too barebones... Aug 31 11:59:32 nah, actually you'll run into yuck even on init, it's upstart based Aug 31 12:00:52 when it comes to hw watchdogs etc then there are some really nice WTFs waiting for you ;-) Aug 31 12:01:22 but nothing that can't be handled, one way or another Aug 31 12:01:33 DocScrutinizer: what's powerkernel? Aug 31 12:01:44 hmm, fun Aug 31 12:01:52 ah well, i guess i'll leave that to the RE experts ;) Aug 31 12:01:57 a augmented maemo stock kernel, done by a community member Aug 31 12:02:11 has netfilters, cpufreq etc pp Aug 31 12:04:21 a number of usually usual things that Nokia in their eternal wisdom decided isn't needed on N900. Now when users find it actually is, e.g for creating a N900 based WLAN (N900=AP), you need kernel patches Aug 31 12:04:34 that's what power-kernel implements Aug 31 12:05:41 e.g. maemohotspot package has dependencies to powerkernel package Aug 31 12:07:09 DocScrutinizer: what's your definition of proprietary? Aug 31 12:07:33 depends on context (and on my mood and moonphase) Aug 31 12:08:11 and most of the time I even use the word the wrong way Aug 31 12:09:23 DocScrutinizer: yes I think we have different definition :) Aug 31 12:12:56 lindi-: in >> btw proprietary kernels in maemo<< I actually used it incorrect like I do frequently. I probably meant custom modified, tweaked, patched, built to order, whatever Aug 31 12:15:10 if a company would sell a app like maemo hotspot and shipped their own custom built kernel with that, then I'd probably call that proprietary. As it's now it's more the opposite, those are community based modified kernels Aug 31 12:17:56 DocScrutinizer: yeah Aug 31 12:18:20 DocScrutinizer: I'm sure openwrt folks don't appreciate it if you call them proprietary :) Aug 31 12:18:27 (even though openwrt includes proprietary software!) Aug 31 12:19:19 wl.ko, nas? Aug 31 12:19:31 er, wl.o, not .ko Aug 31 12:19:36 kernel 2.4... Aug 31 12:24:59 Wonka: the wlan driver for wrt54gl yes Aug 31 12:25:27 even I was tricked into buying one and believed it would run free software Aug 31 12:25:37 very effective marketing :) Aug 31 12:26:24 <[Rui]> lindi-: this weekend I installed dd-wrt in a broadcom router (2MB) and an atheros router (16MB) only to find out broadcom and atheros don't go together in WDS :( Aug 31 12:26:34 afaik, the b43.ko still does not work correctly... Aug 31 12:26:51 Rui: WDS is non-802.11 anyway... Aug 31 12:26:53 <[Rui]> then I revived my fonera 2100 with openwrt, upgraded it to backfire, and after trying to configure a second wifi interface... I sort of bricked it :( Aug 31 12:27:37 <[Rui]> Wonka: yeah, but brcm and ath don't play well together in WDS :) nobody but brcm and ath can fix that, sadly. Aug 31 12:28:17 well... ath is softmac, so you could change the ath drivers (or rather mac80211) Aug 31 12:28:18 Wonka: there's nothing better than b43 in the free software world. I run it without encryption to mitigate bugs Aug 31 12:28:44 lindi-: I tend to avoid bcm43xx and try to get atheros instead :) Aug 31 12:29:55 I'm on my way to buying the parts I need to probably make eJTAG work on my bricked WGT634U... Aug 31 12:30:03 I managed to delete its CFE back then Aug 31 12:46:06 <[Rui]> Wonka: I reccommend the TP-LINK WR1043ND Aug 31 12:46:22 <[Rui]> except for wifi radius (worse than my older brcm) Aug 31 12:48:40 hmm. 42.49EUR Aug 31 12:48:54 but GbE... Aug 31 12:51:27 <[Rui]> Wonka: 42.5? neat, I bought it at 75 last friday in Portugal :| Aug 31 12:51:35 <[Rui]> and it was the cheapest of the same generation Aug 31 12:53:02 what's the status of shr-u? Aug 31 12:53:22 <[Rui]> rhkfin: there's a huge problem in recent images and repo with fonts Aug 31 12:53:32 <[Rui]> rhkfin: probably related to DPI Aug 31 12:53:48 <[Rui]> rhkfin: I went back to Aug23 image (the last one I know was ok) Aug 31 12:54:12 ok.. So I'll propably keep my FR turned off for a while.. Aug 31 12:55:43 Rui: http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Netzwerk/TP-LINK/TL-WR1043ND/144664/?cmd=showTecData Aug 31 12:55:56 <[Rui]> rhkfin: I can put it available for you, if you want Aug 31 12:56:49 -unstable? What are the missing bits in that image? Aug 31 12:57:10 <[Rui]> rhkfin: just some days of updates Aug 31 12:57:17 I also might go back to -testing from end of may Aug 31 12:57:20 <[Rui]> rhkfin: be careful not to do any opkg upgrade :) Aug 31 12:57:33 [Rui]: I mean what's broken/something.. Aug 31 12:58:04 (I really wish there would be some kind of freeze and release of testing and then ~stable..) Aug 31 12:58:07 <[Rui]> rhkfin: DPI detection is totally borked, I don't know if it's an EFL thing or a driver thing Aug 31 12:58:15 ok.. Aug 31 12:58:19 <[Rui]> rhkfin: fonts are *unreadbly* small Aug 31 12:58:21 Hmm.. Aug 31 12:58:24 <[Rui]> but not on all Aug 31 12:58:26 <[Rui]> just on some apps Aug 31 12:58:29 maybe I'll just stick with the old -testing still.. Aug 31 12:58:34 <[Rui]> vala-terminal, fbreader, phonelog Aug 31 12:58:49 Tried another distro but it didn't fire up so.. need to go back to something.. old -testing seems to work. Aug 31 13:00:18 What's the difference of these two -testing folders: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ and http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ Aug 31 13:00:31 <[Rui]> rhkfin: you tried qtmoko for a while, how's it going? Aug 31 13:01:25 I did, it's nice, except that it's a pain to use GPS (=FoxtrotGPS or generally any X app). NeronGPS just doesn't do it for me. Aug 31 13:01:42 At that time also the battery life was bad. Aug 31 13:01:49 or worse than on SHR Aug 31 13:02:10 However, the overall experience is awesome, definitely the best you can get on Freerunner at the moment Aug 31 13:02:23 you have DPI issues? how come nobody has mentioned xdpyinfo? Aug 31 13:02:49 <[Rui]> lindi-: that's the app I couldn't remember the name :) Aug 31 13:05:40 anyone who has access to the buildhost, please push mokosuite2 :) Aug 31 13:06:09 <[Rui]> and bump omnewrotate as well, please :) Aug 31 13:16:44 ~seen JaMA Aug 31 13:16:50 !seen JaMa Aug 31 13:16:51 I found 15 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): JaMa|GoNe JaMa JaMa|Zzzz JaMa|gokarts JaMa|Bike. JaMa|GoNe (~martin@161-24.13.24.78.awnet.cz) was last seen quitting from #openmoko-cdevel 19 hours, 47 minutes ago stating (Quit: see you in 3 weeks). Aug 31 13:16:52 jama <~martin@161-24.13.24.78.awnet.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 7d 16h 31m 49s ago, saying: 'tomorrow I have to arrive to work before 7 :/'. Aug 31 13:17:29 :( Aug 31 13:17:30 <[Rui]> dos1: last I saw JaMa quit, his quit message said "see you in 3 weeks" Aug 31 13:17:47 [Rui]: well, and that's what cdbot2 said ;) Aug 31 13:18:19 <[Rui]> ok, while I have nothing to loose, let's make a full upgrade and check xdpyinfo Aug 31 13:19:09 well, as JaMa is gone, the only hope about building are mrmoku|away and me Aug 31 13:19:36 but I'm still a beginner when it comes to solving bitbake problems and dealing with OE :P Aug 31 13:35:03 <[Rui]> dos1: oh... I have a gut feeling I know what you're going through... Aug 31 13:35:23 <[Rui]> dos1: as soon as you do a bitbake build command you get a bad python stack trace? Aug 31 13:36:39 <[Rui]> bah, damnit Aug 31 13:36:41 <[Rui]> [Rui]: what version of bitbake is this? Aug 31 13:36:41 <[Rui]> <[Rui]> BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.10.0, bitbake version 1.10.0 Aug 31 13:36:41 <[Rui]> [Rui]: for now, you can just remove the bb.debug on line 527 of bitbake/lib/bb/utils.py Aug 31 13:36:41 <[Rui]> i just ran into this a couple hours ago, actually, haven't had time to get a fix upstream Aug 31 13:37:10 <[Rui]> dos1: is this helpful? Aug 31 13:39:07 [Rui]: when did you get your font issue? Aug 31 13:39:20 not really a problem here... though i have noticed something... Aug 31 13:39:28 definitevely terminal ok Aug 31 13:40:13 <[Rui]> vanous: since I did an upgrade a few days after Aug23 Aug 31 13:40:24 <[Rui]> probably around the 27 or 28th Aug 31 13:41:03 i will look up my fr later on to test Aug 31 13:41:22 but i have all latest updates and have noticed this once somewhere... phone log Aug 31 13:41:49 <[Rui]> there's another issue, if I stop & start xserver, there are enlightenment processes zombified Aug 31 13:41:51 but i have quite a combination now of E/mokohome/illume panel but not illume home...etc. Aug 31 13:42:32 [Rui]: hmm, i restarted X 50times per hour last few days, testing various combinations of home screens/rotations etc... Aug 31 13:42:51 haven't notices anything Aug 31 13:42:59 but i am always in hurry these days... Aug 31 13:43:30 plenty of dayjob work, too many visitors here on the weekend, work to do here... Aug 31 14:49:28 <[Rui]> well now... done an upgrade from Aug23 directly to today let's see how's dpi Aug 31 14:50:10 <[Rui]> weird, now all's ok Aug 31 14:50:46 <[Rui]> weird but in a good way! Aug 31 14:51:32 <[Rui]> still, e's config setting of scaling claims 284 dpi rather than 280 or 285 Aug 31 15:15:07 out of curiosity, why hw sdio irq is disabled in kernel config for gta02? Aug 31 15:15:15 (CONFIG_MMC_S3C_HW_SDIO_IRQ) Aug 31 16:08:03 <[Rui]> crossing fingers... NOTE: Running task 1 of 8799 (ID: 1145, /media/devdisk/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/stage-manager/stagemanager-native_0.0.1.bb, do_setscene) Aug 31 16:14:33 * GarthPS wondering what are all these N900 gived to FSO(and/or SHR ?) guys for? Aug 31 16:15:45 development? Aug 31 16:20:23 Wonka: yeah but who offer it and why? Aug 31 16:21:10 GarthPS: dunno... would have liked to get one too, but then, I'd probably not qualify with my low time available... Aug 31 16:21:34 :) Aug 31 16:44:22 sorry 3g issue Aug 31 16:45:30 <[Rui]> if I could get one cheap N900 too I'd probably get it, if it was feasible to have a free phone working on it Aug 31 16:46:09 <[Rui]> it costs ~500€ here Aug 31 16:49:49 in italy too Aug 31 16:49:58 but more 600E than 500 I bet Aug 31 16:50:48 <[Rui]> sorrt, I lie, 599€ Aug 31 16:51:05 <[Rui]> just checked on their online store (can't get anywhere else, either). Aug 31 16:52:51 [Rui]: have you read http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2010/08/21/#20100821-playing_with_galaxy_s Aug 31 16:53:44 not saying it's much cheaper but then there is the Wave Aug 31 16:54:48 and that is similar much much cheaper, running (99%) Enlightenment Aug 31 16:55:52 so perhaps the options are opening up Aug 31 17:03:57 <[Rui]> vanous|away: No, I didn't read that... Aug 31 17:07:55 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra4814c2008e5 10/fsotdld/src/ (lib/gpsreceiver.vala plugins/provider_gps_nmea/plugin.vala): fsotdld: start GPS hardware with location handler; don't handle coordinates until reported as valid Aug 31 17:11:52 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Aug 31 17:12:02 leviathan, hi Aug 31 17:12:13 [Rui], ah ok Aug 31 17:12:39 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: it's absurdely expensive Aug 31 17:12:46 I was on an embedded computing conference today Aug 31 17:12:51 I know Aug 31 17:12:57 <[Rui]> and now I've been spoilt with a Free phone I don't want to go back :) Aug 31 17:12:59 was very informativ and interesting Aug 31 17:13:05 iphone is expensive too when you think of it Aug 31 17:13:18 and people say that a freerunner doesn't compete with an iphone Aug 31 17:13:20 today someone won an iphone Aug 31 17:13:27 ^_^ Aug 31 17:13:40 at the end of the conference there was a tombola Aug 31 17:13:42 ... anyway Aug 31 17:13:46 I also think it has to do with the price of the freerunner Aug 31 17:13:56 yes Aug 31 17:14:03 leviathan, I won a bug device in the fosdem tombola Aug 31 17:14:06 that was so great Aug 31 17:14:19 specially because the other stuff to win were things like: Aug 31 17:14:26 *non-free nokia tablets Aug 31 17:14:27 I've spoken today with a guy selling very price worth samsung OMAP development boards Aug 31 17:14:30 morning GNUtoo|laptop Aug 31 17:14:34 hi mickey|sofa Aug 31 17:14:44 leviathan, ok Aug 31 17:14:52 today I was at a company, eureka Aug 31 17:15:09 I guess I will buy such a board and compile OE for it Aug 31 17:15:35 it shall be very near to the board used in recent samsung handies Aug 31 17:15:42 so I can then port the drivers Aug 31 17:16:03 additional, you can use the debug stuff with samsung devel boards for theire phones Aug 31 17:16:11 so it will be a great advance Aug 31 17:17:13 wow Aug 31 17:17:28 how much does the board cost? Aug 31 17:17:34 about 1000E ? Aug 31 17:17:39 about 500E? Aug 31 17:17:43 nope Aug 31 17:17:44 less Aug 31 17:17:46 :-) Aug 31 17:17:49 200E? Aug 31 17:17:52 around 59€ Aug 31 17:17:54 wow Aug 31 17:18:07 and its the most recent OMAP Aug 31 17:18:09 do you have a link? Aug 31 17:18:13 moment Aug 31 17:18:22 * leviathan has recently come home Aug 31 17:18:29 * GNUtoo|laptop has too much devices Aug 31 17:18:29 * leviathan looks for visit cards Aug 31 17:18:32 ok Aug 31 17:18:39 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfe7104a0b8a9 10/fsotdld/src/plugins/provider_gps_nmea/plugin.vala: fsotdld: report location from GPRMC Aug 31 17:27:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r625f0b31c870 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/interfaces.vala: libfsoframework: interfaces: add service interface and object path for org.freesmartphone.Location Aug 31 17:29:22 GNUtoo|laptop: http://www.redacom.ch/hardware/olimex/index.html Aug 31 17:34:37 GNUtoo|laptop: today a lot of people were interested into o2s Aug 31 17:34:57 it was awsome Aug 31 17:35:10 someone is thinking about to let US do theire super computer Aug 31 17:35:11 :-D Aug 31 17:35:30 ok... look onto this price list Aug 31 17:35:40 ok Aug 31 17:36:10 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r92cc73e57e1c 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fsotdld: register dbus object at location path Aug 31 17:36:30 leviathan, that seem a microcontroller stuff Aug 31 17:36:49 this are keynames for these boards Aug 31 17:36:58 look under arm Aug 31 17:36:59 what's the board? Aug 31 17:37:04 moment Aug 31 17:37:06 ... Aug 31 17:37:12 The ARM microcontrollers are High-Performance, 16/32-Bit RISC Core devices Aug 31 17:39:20 GNUtoo|laptop: do you have a GPS trace handy? Aug 31 17:39:39 if so, please paste one info bundle Aug 31 17:39:41 mickey|sofa, no but I can generate one, Aug 31 17:39:51 I will go out Aug 31 17:39:52 cool, thanks. need to crosscheck something and have no dream here Aug 31 17:40:03 altough with 3g the battery doesn't last a lot with 3g Aug 31 17:40:12 mickey|sofa, you're here until when? Aug 31 17:40:29 just one bunch of info from /dev/smd27 until you get a FIX will do Aug 31 17:40:31 because If I go out I won't use 3g...else the phone will reboot Aug 31 17:40:37 ok Aug 31 17:40:39 just that? Aug 31 17:40:46 no movement Aug 31 17:40:49 etc.... Aug 31 17:40:57 I can get that at home Aug 31 17:40:58 yeah, a full set, like GPRMC and GPGSV Aug 31 17:41:08 ok Aug 31 17:41:13 no movement necessary, just something with fix Aug 31 17:42:11 * mickey|sofa wonders that the decimal point is somewhat strange here: Aug 31 17:42:27 00739.3538 Aug 31 17:43:14 ah Aug 31 17:43:19 first three digits are always the degrees Aug 31 17:49:16 hmmm I can't get a fix Aug 31 17:49:19 strange Aug 31 17:49:25 maybe that's because there is no sim card inside Aug 31 17:50:41 ok got some fixes Aug 31 17:50:45 I'll wait a bit Aug 31 17:50:49 and send you the log file Aug 31 17:52:12 mickey|sofa, 158 lines is enough? Aug 31 17:52:20 how do I send it to you? Aug 31 17:52:26 pastebin please Aug 31 17:52:42 ok Aug 31 17:52:49 delete it after then Aug 31 17:52:52 I'll pm you Aug 31 17:53:14 oki Aug 31 18:01:16 heyho Aug 31 18:01:51 morphis, hi Aug 31 18:02:24 hey GNUtoo|laptop Aug 31 18:03:08 radekp: hi Aug 31 18:03:15 radekp: could you test one more thing? :) Aug 31 18:04:09 anarsoul: hi, sure i can try Aug 31 18:04:48 radekp: try to enable hw sdio irq in kernel config Aug 31 18:05:01 CONFIG_MMC_S3C_HW_SDIO_IRQ Aug 31 18:05:39 it's also interesting if hw sdio irq works without DMA Aug 31 18:05:52 morphis, did you saw that compat wireless got ported to 2.6.24 Aug 31 18:05:57 ? Aug 31 18:07:30 anarsoul: enable it on plain openmoko kernel or with your patches? Aug 31 18:07:48 radekp: it would be nice if you can both cases Aug 31 18:07:52 with and without patches Aug 31 18:08:12 GNUtoo|laptop: jepp, I saw your mail but did not try it until now Aug 31 18:08:17 anarsoul: oki Aug 31 18:08:31 ok Aug 31 18:12:55 I wonder why this option is disabled when there's hw sdio irq available :\ Aug 31 18:14:40 anarsoul: enabled it on plain openmoko sources and no wifi now Aug 31 18:15:32 please post dmesg somewhere Aug 31 18:17:28 anarsoul: should i enable DMA debug also? Aug 31 18:18:14 radekp: hm, did you disable DMA in config with plain kernel? Aug 31 18:18:25 GNUtoo|laptop: http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/ARM/ST/STM32-P103.pdf Aug 31 18:18:29 whats with this one Aug 31 18:18:32 I need results for PIO + hw sdio irq Aug 31 18:18:36 seems lovely for OE development Aug 31 18:18:43 ok, well, not exactly samsungs Aug 31 18:18:54 (to ensure that hw sdio irq doesn't break anything) Aug 31 18:19:22 anarsoul: it's disabled Aug 31 18:19:55 anarsoul: it seems hw sdio irq breaks wifi Aug 31 18:20:00 I see Aug 31 18:20:08 if i disable it wifi is ok Aug 31 18:20:20 please test DMA + hw sdio irq (with patched kernel) Aug 31 18:23:27 oki Aug 31 18:30:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf00d0816e9b5 10/fsotdld/src/plugins/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fsotdld: convert latitude and longitude into proper decimal degree format Aug 31 18:38:15 leviathan, Aug 31 18:38:16 STM32-P103 board is development board which allow exploring the Aug 31 18:38:16 complete features of the new ARM Cortex M3 Aug 31 18:38:16 cortex M3??? Aug 31 18:38:19 that's microcontroller Aug 31 18:38:23 I'll look furthurer Aug 31 18:39:07 leviathan, will you make a feature-phone? Aug 31 18:43:01 hmm? Aug 31 18:43:07 I'm just looking forward Aug 31 18:43:17 try'n to port it to a feature platform Aug 31 18:43:21 perhaps Aug 31 18:43:33 then presenting an example to possible producers Aug 31 18:43:34 radekp: any success? Aug 31 18:43:35 :-) Aug 31 18:45:09 leviathan, do you know what feature phone means? Aug 31 18:45:12 it doesn't seem so Aug 31 18:45:23 feature phone is the countrary of smart-phone Aug 31 18:45:27 anarsoul: rebulding now - i had children here ;-) Aug 31 18:45:33 it's the work harald welte is doing with osmbbcom Aug 31 18:45:41 it's a phone with no application cpu Aug 31 18:45:45 it can't run GNU/Linux Aug 31 18:45:46 etc... Aug 31 18:46:08 radekp: I see :) Aug 31 18:46:18 leviathan, so do you have a beagle-like board? Aug 31 18:47:28 nope Aug 31 18:47:38 I tried to build for beagle emulator Aug 31 18:47:41 but with no success Aug 31 18:47:44 :-( Aug 31 18:48:06 I guess with hardware I'll have much more possibilities Aug 31 18:48:14 like DRI (graphic effects) Aug 31 18:48:16 I'll trhink I'll eat Aug 31 18:48:20 kk Aug 31 18:48:34 leviathan, maybe show off real hardware phone, that you may have to give away Aug 31 18:48:43 I'll eat Aug 31 18:49:12 k Aug 31 18:49:21 bon aptetit Aug 31 18:49:26 *apetit Aug 31 18:49:28 :-) Aug 31 18:49:36 *apt* Aug 31 18:49:47 super cow with bbq sauce Aug 31 18:49:51 xD Aug 31 19:04:00 anarsoul: hmm interesting now i cant boot at all Aug 31 19:04:18 :\ Aug 31 19:04:37 anarsoul: last messages are Waiting 6sec before mounting root device Aug 31 19:05:09 anarsoul: and BNI Get Target Info: (ver 0x200009 type: 0x1) Aug 31 19:05:39 s/BNI/BMI Aug 31 19:06:19 radekp: you're booting from sd card? Aug 31 19:06:24 yes Aug 31 19:07:06 weird :( Aug 31 19:07:38 yes, i will have to go now Aug 31 19:07:50 will be back tomorrow Aug 31 19:08:14 cu Aug 31 19:08:56 cu Aug 31 19:16:34 oh, fr wifi driver seems to be too fragile :( Aug 31 19:17:03 anarsoul: andy-tracking? Aug 31 19:17:34 lindi-: nope, radekp tested my s3cmci dma patches, and wifi doesn't work with dma-enabled s3cmci Aug 31 19:17:46 (however, sd-cards work fine for me on my rx1950) Aug 31 19:17:55 and on my h1940 :) Aug 31 19:19:24 unfortunatelly I have no fr, but there's max_posedon not far from me, I hope he'll be kind enough to make some testing under my personal control :) Aug 31 19:29:37 anarsoul, I'll better give it to you, and drink tea during your tests) Aug 31 19:33:51 anarsoul: so which kernel is this? Aug 31 19:42:57 lindi-: 2.6.34 Aug 31 20:17:05 leviathan, hi Aug 31 20:17:19 so... did samsung really pointed you to microcontroller stuff? Aug 31 20:17:30 or did you make a mistake pointing me to that? Aug 31 20:18:05 hmm Aug 31 20:18:06 nope Aug 31 20:18:22 the guy who told me today I shall try was talking about possible boards Aug 31 20:18:23 ... Aug 31 20:18:32 ok Aug 31 20:18:33 But I guess, I did remember the wrong one Aug 31 20:18:37 ... Aug 31 20:18:40 ah ok Aug 31 20:19:08 perhaps I should ask him again over email Aug 31 20:19:22 btw I've got direct connection to honda Aug 31 20:19:27 as I remember Aug 31 20:19:32 they also make devices Aug 31 20:19:37 not only cars... Aug 31 20:20:39 leviathan: a honda phone. motorcyclists will love Aug 31 20:20:41 it Aug 31 20:20:59 oops Aug 31 20:21:02 bad luck Aug 31 20:21:20 they are the only ones who still only make motor cycles Aug 31 20:21:21 ... Aug 31 20:21:22 hmm Aug 31 20:21:27 ok Aug 31 20:22:07 bad luck, exactly a good fried of the a high friend of the topboss there ows us something Aug 31 20:22:10 :-) Aug 31 20:22:14 better my dad Aug 31 20:22:26 anyway... Aug 31 20:22:29 well Aug 31 20:22:40 then I'll have to go the old fassion way anyway Aug 31 20:22:48 nock and present Aug 31 20:27:28 ok Aug 31 20:39:56 <[Rui]> Is there someone here who can fix a new glamo X driver bug introduced by all the recent changes? Aug 31 20:42:21 [Rui]: do you mean the rotation issue? Aug 31 20:42:27 <[Rui]> yea Aug 31 20:42:31 i see Aug 31 20:42:48 <[Rui]> it only knows 2 positions :) Aug 31 20:42:58 <[Rui]> 0'' and 90'' Aug 31 20:43:19 yes, i noticed Aug 31 20:43:26 but in fct, this was OK for me :)) Aug 31 20:43:58 * vanous|away trying to build oe for him old palm t3 Aug 31 20:44:47 ok Aug 31 20:44:50 gn Aug 31 20:45:19 <[Rui]> gn Aug 31 20:45:50 [Rui]: btw. your son's second week, right? Aug 31 20:46:08 ours son first day @ school tomorrow Aug 31 20:46:10 :) Aug 31 20:47:02 <[Rui]> vanous|away: hehe Aug 31 20:47:08 <[Rui]> vanous|away: yes, 2w on thu Aug 31 20:47:31 well, i better get that oe for palm done, if my son starts looking for other stuff to play with now Aug 31 20:48:11 but i hope not. no computers for him yet. Aug 31 20:48:12 ok Aug 31 20:48:13 ciao Aug 31 20:48:26 <[Rui]> ciao Sep 01 00:28:55 gena2x: wow I got WS with SHR 2.6.32.21 Sep 01 00:29:34 gena2x: can I help to debug it? dump some Glamo registers? Sep 01 00:31:17 WS occurs when I rebooted SHR Sep 01 00:31:39 but SHR is running, I am connected via SSH Sep 01 00:34:29 Weiss: ping Sep 01 00:59:35 I cant reproduce it Sep 01 00:59:55 more info: http://piratepad.net/0MZGwi8hww **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 01 02:59:57 2010