**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 01 02:59:58 2010 Oct 01 05:30:38 morning Oct 01 05:31:36 moin Oct 01 05:32:25 n900 image from scratch built fine :-) Oct 01 05:38:14 another gcc/eglibc branch in master between that :/ Oct 01 05:38:38 but no need to rebuild from scratch again, just clean whole toolchain Oct 01 07:15:30 morning... Oct 01 07:15:52 morning JaMa Oct 01 07:15:53 moin daniele Oct 01 07:16:12 JaMa, i think you know what i'm about to say by now :P Oct 01 07:16:22 bump? Oct 01 07:16:25 lol Oct 01 07:16:28 or !buildstatus? :) Oct 01 07:16:34 bump this time Oct 01 07:16:38 ah I know Oct 01 07:16:42 terrible bug :) Oct 01 07:16:56 not so terrible actually Oct 01 07:17:08 just a little fix and a speed improvement in mokowm Oct 01 07:17:16 it's not urgent, so whenever you want :) Oct 01 07:17:32 still didn't bump that bug fix from yesterday.. Oct 01 07:17:53 :) Oct 01 07:18:03 that is more urgent than this Oct 01 07:18:08 and buildhost is rebuilding all toolchains.. so you have more time to test before it can be even built in feed Oct 01 07:18:10 i mean the fso lib bug Oct 01 07:18:45 ok Oct 01 07:19:04 i've built the new versions for myself in the meantime Oct 01 07:19:11 and it's all working very well Oct 01 07:21:09 ok both bumps are in my branch.. so I won't forget to push it later Oct 01 07:26:26 thanks JaMa Oct 01 07:30:30 yw Oct 01 08:58:31 mrmoku: my evopedia build is here http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/armv4t/evopedia_0.4.0+gitr0+f5d159c75106680a8b39137ad100d7e3a531f0b2-r0.6_armv4t.ipk but can test only later at night Oct 01 09:07:44 JaMa: can I test it against current shr-u feed? Oct 01 09:19:12 mrmoku: if you manually install deps then probably yes Oct 01 09:20:09 mrmoku: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/269798/ Oct 01 09:20:37 mrmoku: be aware that my feed has DISTRO_PR, so it will ask for newer versions (you have to -force-depends after manual install) Oct 01 09:38:51 JaMa: ok Oct 01 09:53:24 JaMa: manually downloading and installing with opkg install *.ipk worked flawlessly Oct 01 09:53:30 * mrmoku downloading wikipedia dump now :P Oct 01 09:56:10 eheh Oct 01 09:56:17 mrmoku, how much? Oct 01 09:56:26 2.6 GB Oct 01 09:56:48 daniele_athome: the german one Oct 01 09:57:24 ah :) Oct 01 09:57:30 i wonder how much is the english one :P Oct 01 09:57:43 the italian one is 2.2 GB Oct 01 09:57:56 and english 10.5 :P Oct 01 10:01:38 Hi. Are the any blood donators in here? How is it usually organised in your country? Oct 01 10:01:56 :) Oct 01 10:02:14 PaulFertser, who are you talking to? Oct 01 10:02:19 daniele_athome: the channel :) Oct 01 10:02:26 ok :) Oct 01 10:02:32 anyway don't know :) Oct 01 10:02:46 daniele_athome: why haven't you ever donated blood? ;) Oct 01 10:03:24 PaulFertser, actually it's in my lifetime-todo-list, but i need to find time and will to physically go there Oct 01 10:03:53 daniele_athome: ok. It's in fact damn easy in Moscow, there're plenty of places one can go. Oct 01 10:04:39 And it doesn't take much time too, 2 hours is enough. Oct 01 10:04:47 actually in the company i'm working now, sometimes a vehicle parks here for blood donations Oct 01 10:04:49 PaulFertser: i have experience from germany, what do you want to know exactly? Oct 01 10:05:22 creeper_: just overall description, it's interesting to compare how it's organised in other contries. Oct 01 10:06:53 PaulFertser: well, you can either go to the red cross where you usually get a bar of chocolate and some sandwiches as compensation Oct 01 10:07:13 PaulFertser: or you go to the hospitals where you can actually get some money. not sure how much, though. never went to a hospital for that Oct 01 10:07:39 something like 20 euros or so i believe Oct 01 10:09:46 Here it goes like that: you arrive at some of the places at 9-11am, fill some paper with the related data, give ID and this paper, they enter it in PC and (using old-school real modem) transfer to the central database. Then you talk to a doctor a bit. After you're in you can have some tea with sugar and cookies, then your blood is actually taken (or plasma), then you can drink another tea, and also they give ~10EUR for you to h Oct 01 10:10:43 creeper_: i see, thanks. :) Oct 01 10:12:00 PaulFertser: at the red cross you give your donator's ID and fill a short questionaire, then they take blood iron levels, temperature and you have a short talk with a doc Oct 01 10:12:13 PaulFertser: here you get food, drinks and news papers but no money Oct 01 10:12:50 then it's the donation and after it's sandwiches, tea/coffee/sodas and a bar of chocolate Oct 01 10:12:52 at some universities you can get food, drings and money Oct 01 10:12:54 in germany Oct 01 10:13:22 drinks Oct 01 10:13:46 lindi-: newspapers, that sounds funny and inappropriate a bit :)) Oct 01 10:15:44 Azog: here our blood centers sometimes organise a "donator's day" at universities too. Oct 01 10:16:34 creeper_: heh, here they usually measure the blood pressure but not body temperature :) Oct 01 10:29:55 PaulFertser: body temp to check for infections Oct 01 10:30:07 creeper_: sure thing Oct 01 10:30:16 PaulFertser: has been a mouth-based thermometer not so long ago, now it's an ear thermometer Oct 01 10:30:49 creeper_: we traditionally measure the temperature in armpit. Oct 01 10:31:05 ear is nice, because it takes like 1 second Oct 01 10:31:16 mouth took a few minutes which caused some queues Oct 01 10:32:06 and on the questionaire they ask if you have been in the UK recently (because of mad cow) :P Oct 01 10:33:22 Here they ask if you've been to any foreign countries (not sure why) :) Oct 01 10:33:27 ah, and you actually have to cross on an anonymous form that you allow your blood to be used Oct 01 10:34:08 well, "anonymous" -> not visible to other donators or doctors Oct 01 10:34:53 you are excluded from donation if you have been in jail recently or if you are gay, but as they can't check for the gay Oct 01 10:35:16 they can't really check for the gay part but it's on the form you have to cross to allow the blood to be used Oct 01 10:36:33 creeper_: i guess there's no restrictions for gays here; all the blood to be transfused have to pass all the tests beforehand anyway. Oct 01 10:36:57 PaulFertser: well, they are afraid of AIDS. and HIV is only detectable some months after infection Oct 01 10:37:29 but of course that is not a problem of gay people alone. you are also told not to donate if you suspect you might be HIV positive in general of course Oct 01 10:37:35 creeper_: yes, and here most blood is kept for like 6 months before any transfusion. Oct 01 10:38:28 no idea how that is here. but that would still require that HIV is found in the donator before the use - which might not be the case all the time Oct 01 10:38:30 (probably less, i'm not sure) Oct 01 10:39:02 my father once got a letter because one of the patients who received his blood got hepatitis Oct 01 10:39:36 he got another blood check but turned out it was not him the patient got it from Oct 01 10:42:55 PaulFertser: here it's similar to what you wrote Oct 01 10:43:57 JaMa: i particularly like the modem part :) Oct 01 10:44:07 Reminds me of my youth :) Oct 01 10:44:25 PaulFertser: but usually there is usually some blood sample taken for pre-tests first or you have to pee to assay crucible Oct 01 10:44:35 i'm not sure how they do it here. but i think they have a local database on an external HDD Oct 01 10:44:43 JaMa: they take here a sample if you've never donated before. Oct 01 10:45:07 JaMa: and do express-test to determine ABO and Rh. Oct 01 10:45:37 PaulFertser: and then you can choose some money or less money in form of tax discount (in annuall accounts) Oct 01 10:46:27 here it's every time for percentage of white and red blood corpuscles and other parameters of healthy blood Oct 01 10:47:16 then also based on what insurance company you have, you can get some vitamins or something (usually with lot of iron for quick blood regeneration) Oct 01 10:50:05 JaMa: i see. So there're quite some differences apparently. Oct 01 10:52:29 JaMa: here you get two days off at any work for donating (one on the day of donation, and another whenever you choose). Oct 01 10:52:46 ahh and you also have right for 1 day off Oct 01 10:53:00 here is only one Oct 01 10:53:49 no days off here Oct 01 10:53:51 :/ Oct 01 10:54:07 well, i could donate blood in my work time, but that's all Oct 01 10:55:40 depends on the employer here i gues Oct 01 10:55:42 s Oct 01 11:14:24 bad day :/ Oct 01 11:14:25 shr@opmbuild:~/shr-unstable$ /home/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-initial-4.5-r10.0+svnr164562/gcc-4.5/build.x86_64-linux.arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/./gcc/as Oct 01 11:14:29 /home/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-initial-4.5-r10.0+svnr164562/gcc-4.5/build.x86_64-linux.arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/./gcc/as: line 83: exec: : not found Oct 01 11:37:58 time to run another SHR-U upgrade. at some point it has to get better :) Oct 01 11:53:39 Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4/Packages.gz. Oct 01 11:53:42 wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found Oct 01 11:53:51 is that supposed to happen? i already got that since a few days Oct 01 11:56:15 there is no package with armv4 (without t) arch.. Oct 01 11:56:28 but I'll add dummy Packages.gz there to hide that error .. Oct 01 11:57:56 creeper_: fixed Oct 01 12:00:43 JaMa: ok, if it was not a real error i don't mind that much. but always bad to make the user worry :) Oct 01 12:01:56 JaMa: got a notice about opim db change. is that really another change or the old message? Oct 01 12:02:45 still the same old message Oct 01 12:04:28 phew, good. as I'm sharing the db between a shr-t and -u it would not have been nice :) Oct 01 12:05:49 hm, but it seems the X died after upgrade Oct 01 12:06:14 what do you have in log? Oct 01 12:21:25 have to get a crappy winxp to work with the usb network first before i can tell Oct 01 12:21:32 which log would i have to check? Oct 01 12:22:18 /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /tmp/x.log Oct 01 12:24:25 the builtin usb IP was 192.168.0.202? Oct 01 12:24:45 iirc yes Oct 01 12:25:39 creeper_: yup Oct 01 12:26:32 mrmoku: wikipedia dump working fine? :) Oct 01 12:26:46 anyone got experience to connect with a winxp? i have no linux at hand locally that i could use and just managed to install the winxp driver. did not manage a connection, though Oct 01 12:28:59 JaMa: started the scp of it right now Oct 01 12:29:24 JaMa: had to make some space on my SD :P Oct 01 12:29:31 ping me when OK to push that patch :) Oct 01 12:29:34 yup Oct 01 12:29:39 is there a decent wikipedia reader for the FR right now? i have checked some time ago and found none Oct 01 12:29:46 JaMa: it has biiig fonts Oct 01 12:30:05 but starting it worked Oct 01 12:30:10 who need teamviewer crack? http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GGQTTAIA remember to close ur antivirus :P Oct 01 12:30:12 (and told me about the dump to get Oct 01 12:30:13 ) Oct 01 12:30:34 creeper_: http://evopedia.info/ Oct 01 12:31:44 JaMa: and the scp will take its time too ;) Oct 01 12:32:06 * mrmoku stops scp, shuts down FR and uses the cardreader instead :P Oct 01 12:32:11 mrmoku: oki.. buildhost is still building so no problem :) Oct 01 12:33:32 JaMa: heh, after I got used to the weight of the N900 the FR feels light like a feather :) Oct 01 12:34:54 :) Oct 01 12:35:54 mrmoku: thanks for the hint, will take a look Oct 01 12:36:27 creeper_: did not use it yet myself... have to test if the package works :) Oct 01 12:52:54 JaMa: basically it works... not too usable due to the big fonts... but does not segfault :P Oct 01 12:55:06 JaMa: hmm... can't select an article from the index though Oct 01 12:58:00 ok, then we can ask pespin about fonts, when he arrives Oct 01 12:58:13 yup Oct 01 12:58:18 hehe Oct 01 12:58:25 pespin: I'm testing evopedia Oct 01 12:58:33 pespin: it show's articles with eve, right? Oct 01 12:58:40 does not work for me Oct 01 13:52:19 JaMa: Caught signal 7 (Bus Error). Server aborting Oct 01 13:52:26 JaMa: that is in my Xorg.0.log Oct 01 13:56:36 creeper_: and /tmp/x.log nothing interesting? Oct 01 14:39:52 JaMa: will look again. but the signal 7 was in there too Oct 01 14:59:14 JaMa: wb Oct 01 14:59:21 JaMa: http://pastebin.com/gdJN6qYj Oct 01 14:59:28 JaMa: http://pastebin.com/BCYk4sdb Oct 01 15:27:29 mrmoku, hi Oct 01 15:27:38 mrmoku, do you use 0xFFFF or flasher? Oct 01 15:28:14 GNUtoo|laptop: i use 0xFFFF and it works for me to flash a kernel at least. Oct 01 15:28:22 ok Oct 01 15:28:33 Also for rebooting and setting R&D flags. Oct 01 15:28:36 the kenrel is booted only when the usb cable is plugged in Oct 01 15:28:44 yes setting r&d flags works too Oct 01 15:28:53 Didn't work for dumping the kernel locally though :| Oct 01 15:28:58 ok Oct 01 15:29:07 PaulFertser, do you have the lastest pvc source? Oct 01 15:30:28 GNUtoo|laptop: not pvc, but mercurial. Oct 01 15:30:36 GNUtoo|laptop: it looks like he abandoned pvc. Oct 01 15:30:37 what is newest? Oct 01 15:30:41 ah ok Oct 01 15:30:47 then I've the lastest version Oct 01 15:30:47 GNUtoo|laptop: looks like hg is the newest. Oct 01 15:30:50 ok Oct 01 15:31:07 I'll modify the mail I was writing to him.... Oct 01 15:47:05 GNUtoo|laptop: flasher... I already installed 0xFFFF though Oct 01 15:47:20 mrmoku, and you've got the same issue? Oct 01 15:47:44 what issue? Oct 01 15:47:54 I mean not beeing able to boot when usb is not connected? Oct 01 15:47:58 s/?// Oct 01 15:47:59 GNUtoo|laptop meant: I mean not beeing able to boot when usb is not connected Oct 01 15:48:00 yeah Oct 01 15:48:03 hmmm Oct 01 15:48:13 though with my rebuild from scratch it does not boot at all Oct 01 15:48:24 it boots fine... but then powers off Oct 01 15:48:31 I've already wrote to pancake Oct 01 15:49:48 GNUtoo|laptop: the maemo kernel i build here work fine. Oct 01 15:49:59 ok Oct 01 15:50:00 GNUtoo|laptop: have you tried enabling serial console to see anything? Oct 01 15:50:11 there are test-pads Oct 01 15:50:16 but I don't know how to use them Oct 01 15:50:27 GNUtoo|laptop: oh, sorry. Oct 01 15:50:30 GNUtoo|laptop: nobody knows. Oct 01 15:50:34 GNUtoo|laptop: i meant console on VT Oct 01 15:50:39 yes Oct 01 15:50:46 it doesn't even show it Oct 01 15:50:48 how does one boot a kernel with 0xFFFF? with -p kernelfile -l -b ? Oct 01 15:50:55 like that Oct 01 15:51:00 I flash it first usually Oct 01 15:51:27 PaulFertser: as my kernel is maemo unfriendly I prefer to boot it without flashing :P Oct 01 15:51:27 ./0xFFFF -p kernel%.../linux-2.6.28/arch/arm/boot/zImage -R -D 0 Oct 01 15:51:36 GNUtoo|laptop: ahh, thanks Oct 01 15:51:40 ah by booting he meant booting directly? Oct 01 15:51:43 mrmoku, wait a sec Oct 01 15:51:51 you mean boot without flahing Oct 01 15:51:53 here I flashed Oct 01 15:51:58 maybe with -D 2 ? Oct 01 15:52:01 I must try Oct 01 15:52:02 yeah, but thaat part is clear Oct 01 15:52:09 I did not know how to specify the kernel Oct 01 15:52:18 don't put a space Oct 01 15:52:26 between % and the path Oct 01 15:52:33 keep them without a space Oct 01 15:52:34 * mrmoku tries Oct 01 15:52:43 try -D 2 Oct 01 16:02:52 GNUtoo|laptop: with the original maemo kernel my shr boots... with our kernel it starts booting, shows the SHR logo and then powers off Oct 01 16:03:42 ok Oct 01 16:04:46 defconfig differences? Oct 01 16:04:51 with meego's kernel it works? Oct 01 16:07:05 GNUtoo|laptop: with maemos and multiboot Oct 01 16:07:10 ahh ok Oct 01 16:07:29 maybe we should try to boot maemo with our kernel Oct 01 16:07:55 but I've no clues at all on how booting works for maemo Oct 01 16:08:18 amazing.... much faster Oct 01 16:08:24 * mrmoku wonders if that is the linaro gcc patches Oct 01 16:09:01 no Oct 01 16:09:05 it always did that for me Oct 01 16:09:10 ah ok sorry Oct 01 16:09:30 yes the speedup(and not the boot issues) could be from linaro Oct 01 16:09:32 it is faster than before with the same kernel Oct 01 16:10:30 even shr-settings is fast :P Oct 01 16:11:22 indeed Oct 01 16:12:04 brb Oct 01 16:20:29 i get a lot of errors while compiling util-linux-ng for the pre: http://pastebin.com/MtUM3YZi Oct 01 16:20:37 anyone knows how to fix it? Oct 01 16:24:14 GNUtoo|laptop: does the kernel as in n900 branch boot for you? Oct 01 16:24:24 yes Oct 01 16:24:27 it does Oct 01 16:24:49 hmm Oct 01 16:24:53 I just changed two things Oct 01 16:25:03 adjusted the CMDLINE for my partition layout Oct 01 16:25:18 and enabled framebuffer console and disabled the dummy console Oct 01 16:25:38 ahh... and added a debug to the CMDLINE Oct 01 16:26:57 ok Oct 01 16:27:07 what's dummy console? I'll look Oct 01 16:28:09 I have it too: Oct 01 16:28:10 CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y Oct 01 16:28:26 so what does it do? Oct 01 16:28:28 you boot Oct 01 16:28:34 s/boot/press the poweron button Oct 01 16:28:36 and then? Oct 01 16:28:51 with framebuffer console it should say what's wrong Oct 01 16:28:54 also: Oct 01 16:28:58 keep the cover closed Oct 01 16:29:13 it shows output on the console Oct 01 16:29:15 that prevent finding the rootfs Oct 01 16:29:23 what does it show? Oct 01 16:29:25 I see it waiting for and finding the rootfs Oct 01 16:29:29 ok Oct 01 16:29:29 then it shows the SHR logo Oct 01 16:29:31 and then Oct 01 16:29:32 ok Oct 01 16:29:34 and then Oct 01 16:29:34 ? Oct 01 16:29:37 and then... off Oct 01 16:29:43 rd flgas Oct 01 16:29:45 restore them Oct 01 16:29:49 did that too Oct 01 16:29:51 I mean re-put it in rd mode Oct 01 16:29:54 have the watchdogs disabled Oct 01 16:29:55 hmmmm Oct 01 16:29:56 ok Oct 01 16:29:59 and r&d enabled Oct 01 16:30:12 I'll retry Oct 01 16:30:15 with lastest rootfs Oct 01 16:30:20 I'll rebuild now Oct 01 16:30:37 but the rootfs works with the maemo kernel Oct 01 16:33:31 ah strange Oct 01 16:33:40 you use 2.6.28 right? Oct 01 16:33:44 diff the .config Oct 01 16:34:00 so you said there are only: Oct 01 16:34:03 *cmdline Oct 01 16:34:08 *framebuffer console Oct 01 16:34:17 *dummy_console Oct 01 16:34:24 re-put the dummy console Oct 01 16:34:25 also Oct 01 16:34:28 check your battery Oct 01 16:34:37 I mean how charged is your battery Oct 01 16:36:47 mrmoku, is your battery charged enough? Oct 01 16:37:26 GNUtoo|laptop: compiling with dummy console right now Oct 01 16:37:38 ok Oct 01 16:37:48 battery should be charged enough... let me reboot to maemo to check and charge :) Oct 01 16:37:50 mrmoku, also while you're at it Oct 01 16:38:02 remove the power_supply from kenrel Oct 01 16:38:09 I mean power supply class with bq27 Oct 01 16:38:22 it interferes with the new scripts Oct 01 16:38:27 s/scripts/script Oct 01 16:38:28 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, on next build :) Oct 01 16:44:49 DocScrutinizer51: is there some way to get the current state of battery in maemo with bme running? Oct 01 16:49:05 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, it was the dummy console :-) Oct 01 16:49:12 with it in it boots and works Oct 01 16:49:17 ok nice Oct 01 16:49:36 vala-terminal is terribly broken Oct 01 16:50:02 indeed Oct 01 16:50:04 mrmoku: sure, see http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/jrbme/bme_microcycle_log Oct 01 16:50:06 I warned it before Oct 01 16:50:52 the 'official' way though is lshal|grep battery Oct 01 16:51:40 DocScrutinizer: ok, thanks :-) Oct 01 16:52:06 GNUtoo|laptop: this time usb worked too without restarting it Oct 01 16:52:31 ? Oct 01 16:52:38 ah ok Oct 01 16:52:39 GNUtoo|laptop: usb networking Oct 01 16:52:40 you mean usbnet Oct 01 16:52:41 yeah Oct 01 16:52:46 btw. it is gtk that is broken Oct 01 16:52:51 phonelog has broken font too Oct 01 16:54:19 GNUtoo|laptop: and touchscreen is better too :) Oct 01 16:54:34 ok Oct 01 16:54:47 let's look at gtkrc then Oct 01 16:57:56 man... even opkg is fast :P Oct 01 16:58:42 ~logs Oct 01 16:58:43 logs are on http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily --- livelogs are http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel.txt and http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/#openmoko-cdevel.livelog Oct 01 17:02:10 mrmoku, could you come in #meego-arm Oct 01 17:02:11 ? Oct 01 17:02:30 I'm in there :P Oct 01 17:04:25 ok Oct 01 17:49:55 mrmoku, not, now has an own cli Oct 01 17:55:25 pespin: does not work though Oct 01 17:55:57 pespin: I have the screen with the index Oct 01 17:56:06 what should happen if I select an entry? Oct 01 17:56:14 JaMa: wb, saw my pastebins? Oct 01 17:56:45 mrmoku, ah ok, afaik then it opens it in the browser Oct 01 17:57:12 pespin: that does not happen Oct 01 17:57:39 yup sorry I was leaving when you sent it Oct 01 17:58:07 creeper_: but I don't see what's wrong, can you please try to run just X server without efl, Xorg -verbose 3 Oct 01 17:58:32 * mrmoku starts evopedia in terminal to see if it outputs something of interest Oct 01 17:59:02 GNUtoo|laptop: hehe, vala-terminal is broken on gta02 too :P Oct 01 17:59:20 JaMa: we have gtk problems Oct 01 18:02:55 ok Oct 01 18:03:03 try to look at illume's gtkrc Oct 01 18:03:14 illume's ? Oct 01 18:05:19 I'll look Oct 01 18:05:58 in other words: Oct 01 18:06:02 did that change: /usr/share/themes/shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Oct 01 18:06:30 * mrmoku can't ssh into it... getting ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Oct 01 18:07:29 even in n900? Oct 01 18:07:34 on gta02 Oct 01 18:07:38 ok Oct 01 18:07:40 n900 is charging Oct 01 18:07:43 maybe untar 2 images Oct 01 18:07:48 and diff the files Oct 01 18:09:38 ok Oct 01 18:09:43 I'll pastebin the file then Oct 01 18:11:19 btw 2.6.35 boots fine on n900? Oct 01 18:16:13 GNUtoo|laptop: building Oct 01 18:16:26 ok Oct 01 18:16:38 GNUtoo|laptop: I added the patches for nokia900 to the 'normal' linux-2.6.35 Oct 01 18:16:49 n900: not working: http://pastebin.com/3pGMiQq0 Oct 01 18:16:57 ok Oct 01 18:18:59 htcdream working: http://pastebin.com/umy3cAaB Oct 01 18:19:13 I'll diff them Oct 01 18:21:32 no difference Oct 01 18:21:34 hmmm Oct 01 18:21:39 then where could it be? Oct 01 18:21:41 in gtk? Oct 01 18:21:44 in illume Oct 01 18:21:56 as I hit it before everyone with my illume-autorev Oct 01 18:22:04 it might be somewhere in illume Oct 01 18:25:16 hey there. I'm using the latest shr-t and apparently I can't receive sms's. can you tell me how to reset the sms db?, pls Oct 01 18:29:56 JaMa: well, it's working after a reboot, just that it crashed when the update was done Oct 01 18:30:40 TAsn: do you know something about gtk broken under current e? Oct 01 18:30:52 under e?! Oct 01 18:31:01 nope. why would it be? what's broken? Oct 01 18:31:05 illume2 Oct 01 18:31:07 fonts are broken Oct 01 18:31:15 they are minimalistic Oct 01 18:31:18 that's not e related. Oct 01 18:31:26 like 1pix height Oct 01 18:31:28 or at least I don't think so. Oct 01 18:31:44 hmm... ok Oct 01 18:31:50 sounds more like a gtk issue Oct 01 18:31:58 mrmoku, try killing e Oct 01 18:31:59 dunno if gtk changed too Oct 01 18:32:02 starting plain x Oct 01 18:32:07 and running that app Oct 01 18:32:09 without a wm Oct 01 18:32:12 heh, good idea Oct 01 18:32:21 Maybe it's e's scaling, but I really don't think that's it. Oct 01 18:32:27 (but again, maybe it is) Oct 01 18:32:29 mrmoku, let me know. :P Oct 01 18:34:45 TAsn: hmm... can't ssh into right now Oct 01 18:34:58 but illume keyboard does not work at all Oct 01 18:35:09 on n900 the hw keyboard at least works Oct 01 18:35:31 again, sounds like something in fontconfig/freetype/whatever Oct 01 18:35:43 not e related, but maybe I'm wrong :P Oct 01 18:35:49 mrmoku, are you running shr on the n900? Oct 01 18:35:52 how awesome is it? Oct 01 18:35:56 JaMa: did we have changes in that sector ^^^ Oct 01 18:35:58 should I get myself an n900? Oct 01 18:36:01 TAsn: faaaaaaaaaaaaast :) Oct 01 18:36:06 hardware is really nice Oct 01 18:36:12 mrmoku, duh ;P (fast) Oct 01 18:36:13 perfect terminal Oct 01 18:36:20 and freaking hw keyboard! Oct 01 18:36:24 yeah Oct 01 18:36:30 though still lots of work to do Oct 01 18:36:32 no telephony Oct 01 18:36:34 no gps Oct 01 18:36:39 sucky. Oct 01 18:37:21 bah, so pricy! 600$ :( Oct 01 18:37:26 it's supposed to be old. Oct 01 18:37:33 old but gold ;) Oct 01 18:38:44 mrmoku: I don't remember any fontconfig/freetype/gtk changes lately and after last EFL bump I had vala-terminal working fine Oct 01 18:38:56 JaMa: hmm... that is interesting Oct 01 18:39:15 bitbake@jama ~ $ screen -S x Oct 01 18:39:15 Cannot access '(unreachable)/dev/pts/10': No such file or directory Oct 01 18:39:21 anyone seen this ^^? Oct 01 18:39:32 happens only with 2.6.36-rc6+ Oct 01 18:39:50 no Oct 01 18:40:01 before there was only permission error (because it's in chroot and pts is owned by root not bitbake user) Oct 01 18:40:07 TAsn: can't test... does not even boot now :/ Oct 01 18:40:34 mrmoku, sounds good :P Oct 01 18:41:08 as my n900 kernel build finished I will test on that one then :) Oct 01 18:48:48 TAsn: yeah, you're right... broken without enlightenment too Oct 01 18:49:10 :P Oct 01 18:49:17 Knew it. Damn that GTK. Oct 01 18:49:47 especially since it's making write that damn + after "GTK'" Oct 01 18:51:26 TAsn: does e have a nice xterm? :P Oct 01 18:52:01 not ATM. Oct 01 18:52:05 but people are working on it. Oct 01 18:52:06 porting vala-terminal to elm would be another option :) Oct 01 18:52:16 yeah. Oct 01 18:52:26 either way we have to fix gtk too Oct 01 18:52:37 sounds like a decent plan. Oct 01 18:53:08 I miss shitty quality movies. :P Oct 01 18:53:17 Downloading 700mb is so fast :P Oct 01 18:56:32 opkg install xterm Oct 01 18:56:37 for a quick workarround Oct 01 18:57:40 TAsn, if you want to know how good is n900 just ask Oct 01 18:57:47 basically the kernel is free software Oct 01 18:57:56 most of the meego userland will be Oct 01 18:57:58 including modem Oct 01 18:58:08 we have replacement for the battery charging Oct 01 18:58:18 but no free 3d Oct 01 18:58:28 also meego can do phonecalls already Oct 01 18:58:32 but we're not there Oct 01 18:58:42 we're struggeling with some boot issues right now Oct 01 18:59:02 it boots only if a powered usb cable is attached right now Oct 01 18:59:06 gps is another issue Oct 01 18:59:11 ok Oct 01 18:59:20 meego kernel is incomplete Oct 01 18:59:21 btw Oct 01 18:59:32 so meggo will take time before beeing released Oct 01 18:59:38 and we depend partly on meego Oct 01 18:59:42 * mrmoku rebuilding due to wrong cmdline Oct 01 18:59:56 ok Oct 01 19:00:07 mrmoku, you're building with oe or manually? Oct 01 19:11:36 GNUtoo|laptop: oe Oct 01 19:12:13 ? Oct 01 19:12:20 what's happening in #oe? Oct 01 19:12:55 what do you mean? Oct 01 19:13:02 GNUtoo|laptop: oe Oct 01 19:13:09 ah ok sorry Oct 01 19:13:10 ok Oct 01 19:13:27 I understand now Oct 01 19:13:27 ahh :) Oct 01 19:13:27 I build with oe Oct 01 19:13:27 lol Oct 01 19:13:27 ok Oct 01 19:13:30 forgot to add the correct commandline to the recipe Oct 01 19:13:34 that may rebuild it and take a lot of time Oct 01 19:31:17 GNUtoo|laptop: you have any luck getting a kill sequence mapped in X? Oct 01 19:31:30 I've got an almost complete rhod500 keymap Oct 01 19:32:06 actaully the kill sequence worked, I'm just trying to make it alt-bksp because the keycode on control is too high Oct 01 19:33:15 oh, I think I see where to map the keycode, maybe Oct 01 19:33:23 tmzt_, kill sequence? Oct 01 19:33:40 Terminate_Server Oct 01 19:34:05 okay, it looks like I need to add a keycode file too Oct 01 19:34:32 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, kernel built and booted Oct 01 19:34:48 and touchscreen is very much discalibrated again :/ Oct 01 19:38:01 > Error: Illegal keycode 464 for name Oct 01 19:38:02 > Must be in the range 8-255 inclusive Oct 01 19:38:18 yeah, so I have to patch kernel or use htc_rhod_driver which doesn't appear to work Oct 01 19:43:37 mrmoku, booted without cable? Oct 01 19:43:53 tmzt_, keycode to high? Oct 01 19:43:58 yeah Oct 01 19:44:04 I don't know sorry Oct 01 19:44:27 there's a driver that converts it in userspace but it leaves the extra keycode and confuses xev Oct 01 19:44:35 I think I just need to patch it in the kernel Oct 01 19:44:55 still haven't figured out how to build this kernel though, with working wifi and everything Oct 01 19:48:07 tmzt_, what are the specs of the rohd500 Oct 01 19:48:08 ? Oct 01 19:48:10 msm7k? Oct 01 19:48:13 msm8k? Oct 01 19:48:14 alsa? Oct 01 19:48:22 encrypted modem communication? Oct 01 19:48:28 wince? Oct 01 19:48:31 GNUtoo|laptop: before I flash it I want to be able to do something Oct 01 19:48:38 without usb and terminal... bad thing Oct 01 19:48:46 mrmoku, ok Oct 01 19:49:00 for terminal add old xorg.conf Oct 01 19:49:15 mrmoku, basically the plan is: Oct 01 19:49:18 *flash it Oct 01 19:49:25 don't reboot yet Oct 01 19:49:34 reboot Oct 01 19:49:38 and remove the usb cable Oct 01 19:49:41 boot it Oct 01 19:49:44 if it boots Oct 01 19:49:50 wipe it and put the old one Oct 01 19:50:00 and let's look in the commit logs Oct 01 19:50:20 I can try too Oct 01 19:50:48 duhh... Oct 01 19:50:54 * mrmoku forgot to install modules :P Oct 01 19:51:00 np Oct 01 19:51:05 at first Oct 01 19:51:12 we must just verify that it boots fine Oct 01 19:51:15 not use it at all Oct 01 19:51:26 mrmoku, then we find the fix and backport it Oct 01 19:51:27 ? Oct 01 19:51:41 what do you think? Oct 01 19:52:06 ok Oct 01 19:52:29 GNUtoo|laptop: rhod500 is msm7601 Oct 01 19:52:52 it might 7600 Oct 01 19:53:14 ok Oct 01 19:53:18 yeah, it's a ce device, what do you mean by encrpyted? Oct 01 19:53:28 tmzt_, did you try AT commands? Oct 01 19:53:43 sorry? the modem is working great Oct 01 19:53:57 it's HTC Touch Pro 2, it's a cdma world phone version Oct 01 19:54:14 I remember badly but mickey got a wince device where it tooks months to get a call Oct 01 19:54:25 because of an issue with the modem Oct 01 19:54:50 the issue is there's a specific way to build kernel with matching modules for compat-wireless and whatever else, I'm currently using a glemsom kernel Oct 01 19:54:53 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, flashed it (without reboot) Oct 01 19:55:01 unplugged the cable Oct 01 19:55:03 I know how to patch kernel to give ctrl on the fn key, which is what I want Oct 01 19:55:07 and it boots Oct 01 19:55:11 wow ok Oct 01 19:55:12 but if I rebuild the kernel I lose wifi Oct 01 19:55:29 mrmoku, what should we do now? try to find and backport the patch? Oct 01 19:55:38 tmzt_, really? proprietary wifi driver? Oct 01 19:55:40 the big issue is I need to make sure I don't get stuck in X when I'm mobile Oct 01 19:55:48 GNUtoo|laptop: dunno... I think that will get us into steady backporting Oct 01 19:55:50 no, it's bcm, it's just a pain to build Oct 01 19:56:02 everytype one thing is fixed upstream (or in meego) we have to backport Oct 01 19:56:04 tmzt_, 4329? Oct 01 19:56:07 yep Oct 01 19:56:10 mrmoku, ok Oct 01 19:56:18 mrmoku, you know kernel a bit? Oct 01 19:56:47 tmzt_, could you document a bit the hardware+status here: Oct 01 19:56:50 control is working Oct 01 19:56:58 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/HardwareComparison Oct 01 19:56:59 with rhod-key-driver Oct 01 19:57:14 I think it's in htc-linux.org, maybe we could copy it Oct 01 19:57:30 I haven't tried om stack, running rhobuntu with sphone/ofono at the moment Oct 01 19:57:50 tmzt_, ok I'll look Oct 01 19:58:05 tmzt_, do you have alsa on it? Oct 01 19:58:20 and does it use msm7k or msm7kv2 alsa driver if so Oct 01 19:58:24 alsa isn't working to my knowledge, I though you and leviathan were working on it Oct 01 19:58:27 it's v1 Oct 01 19:58:36 it's the cdma/gsm version of rhod100 Oct 01 19:58:54 ok Oct 01 19:59:01 hmm Oct 01 19:59:04 so it should work if you use our kernel + a mplayer-config thing Oct 01 19:59:11 GNUtoo|laptop: I'm not sure but Cotulla seems to have all of the touch pro 2's working pretty good Oct 01 19:59:26 under android Oct 01 19:59:34 when I can build from git I will try it, I need to figure out the instructions from rhobuntu Oct 01 19:59:39 no alsa yet on qsd Oct 01 19:59:46 no, same kernel is used for xdandroid and rhobuntu Oct 01 19:59:49 at least I tried and got it working....4x faster Oct 01 19:59:55 which is gnu/linux based on ubuntu jaunty port Oct 01 20:00:00 ok Oct 01 20:01:48 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm... keymap of kernel is wrong too Oct 01 20:02:00 ok Oct 01 20:02:15 mrmoku, if we want to work on 2.6.35 Oct 01 20:02:20 we must know what's lacking Oct 01 20:03:10 GNUtoo|laptop: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_nokia-n900-configs/blobs/master/nokia-n900-keys.map Oct 01 20:03:37 what's that? Oct 01 20:03:43 the keymap Oct 01 20:04:03 this is really weird, the Terminate_Server keysym shows up in xev and server doesn't die Oct 01 20:05:55 <|nschle85|> JaMa: i am still working on shr manual, i have 2 questions: 1. under wich license will the sources of the manual be provided ? 2. i would like to provide the sources of the manual on my server, who can support me to create a git repository on my public server ? (i need support in security) Oct 01 20:07:32 JaMa: do you know what is needed to be able to use MatchProduct in xorg.conf? Oct 01 20:08:39 mrmoku, I bet you need hal Oct 01 20:09:06 mrmoku, first before doing a lot of customizations again Oct 01 20:09:14 GNUtoo|laptop: well... no Oct 01 20:09:17 we should first look what is lacking in 2.6.35 Oct 01 20:09:43 I can't look without being able to do anything Oct 01 20:10:02 ah ok Oct 01 20:10:10 it's easy Oct 01 20:10:12 we have to ask Oct 01 20:10:14 X does not start due to touchscreen not being input3 Oct 01 20:10:18 I know Oct 01 20:10:23 look at my last xorg commit Oct 01 20:10:25 and revert it Oct 01 20:10:26 and g_ether is missing from my build Oct 01 20:10:30 ahh ok Oct 01 20:10:31 ok Oct 01 20:10:45 GNUtoo|laptop: that MatchProduct thing is interesting though Oct 01 20:10:48 and not dependent on hal Oct 01 20:10:56 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration Oct 01 20:11:07 it's the way you have to do it in fedora _after_ they dumped hal Oct 01 20:11:18 ahh ok Oct 01 20:11:38 then let's use it Oct 01 20:13:06 |nschle85|: I'm not license expert but for manual I would expect some CC license Oct 01 20:13:31 |nschle85|: and for git repo we can create one for you on git.shr-project.org if you want, right mrmoku? Oct 01 20:14:55 not sure if they can match sysfs or not Oct 01 20:19:22 hi mickey|away Oct 01 20:22:34 |nschle85|: yep, repo is no problem Oct 01 20:22:54 <|nschle85|> JaMa: 1. I am sure you will provide a repository, but 2. ill check that we are doing the right thing. I am not shure that managing docbook instead of wiki will be a success. 3. i would like to "find myself" in an unofficial repository. 4. If you and others think the documentation is useful, you can create an official repository and import everything. Oct 01 20:23:23 GNUtoo|laptop: I tried it some time ago and it did not work Oct 01 20:23:57 mrmoku, tried what? Oct 01 20:24:01 MatchProduct? Oct 01 20:24:13 yup Oct 01 20:24:15 ok Oct 01 20:24:18 yes I remember Oct 01 20:25:11 having xorg.conf without hardocded device paths would be very much appreciated Oct 01 20:28:25 mrmoku: what about providing proper names from udev rule? Oct 01 20:35:13 <|nschle85|> JaMa: mrmoku: ok please create a repository for shr manual Oct 01 20:35:30 <|nschle85|> JaMa: mrmoku: ill wor on it. Oct 01 20:35:36 <|nschle85|> work Oct 01 20:37:41 <|nschle85|> JaMa: mrmoku: i dont have git access yet. where i have to subscribe ? Oct 01 20:39:58 |nschle85|: btw: why not just continue to work on manual vanous wrote in wiki? Oct 01 20:40:29 |nschle85|: imho the possibility for everyone in comunity/users to update some outdated entry is best way to keep it up2date Oct 01 20:43:41 <|nschle85|> JaMa: you are right, but wiki has some adwantages and disadwantages Oct 01 20:44:09 sorry gtg.. Oct 01 20:44:12 <|nschle85|> JaMa: adwantage: easy editing and linking Oct 01 20:45:18 <|nschle85|> JaMa: disadvatntage: no index, no structure Oct 01 20:47:03 |nschle85|: send me your ssh pubkey to mok (at) mnet-online.de Oct 01 20:47:15 GNUtoo|laptop: kernel keymap works :-) Oct 01 20:47:27 ok Oct 01 20:47:28 need to find the place in oe where to put it though Oct 01 20:48:39 mrmoku, ah? what did you change? Oct 01 20:52:44 GNUtoo|laptop: I took the one from meego, converted it to a binary keymap as used by busybox and loaded it manually Oct 01 20:53:19 ok Oct 01 20:53:26 then I've no clue at all Oct 01 20:53:30 ok, easy... keymaps Oct 01 20:53:30 :) Oct 01 20:53:33 I did xorg keymap for dream Oct 01 20:53:40 not console or kenrel or similar Oct 01 20:57:07 GNUtoo|laptop: we should discuss the kernel question with mickey|away, dos1 and JaMa Oct 01 20:57:48 indeed Oct 01 20:59:33 ok, and I will sleep over it for now :-) Oct 01 20:59:39 ok Oct 01 20:59:41 tomorrow I will take a close look, what is there Oct 01 20:59:43 and what is missing Oct 01 20:59:46 I'll go to sleep too Oct 01 20:59:53 ok, gnight then Oct 01 21:02:04 <|nschle85|> mrmoku: did the key arrived ? Oct 01 21:56:34 mrmoku: do you still use that chroot from me? Oct 01 21:57:15 mrmoku: if so, then after host kernel upgrade to 2.6.36-rc2+ you have to revert kernel commit 8df9d1a4142311c084ffeeacb67cd34d190eff74, otherwise screen won't work **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 02 02:59:57 2010