**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 08 02:59:57 2010 Oct 08 03:00:39 they better had spent a 10 minutes of their time working on the system, to fix the wiki and announce "NOT YET!" on events.ccc.de/index.html Oct 08 03:02:17 instead of keeping BS like ""The presale starts on Monday 27th September 2010..." on http://events.ccc.de/2010/09/24/tickets-for-the-27-chaos-communication-congress/ and only posting above mentioned notice on postponed presale as late as *today* :-( Oct 08 04:57:59 GNUtoo|laptop: once I go to bed early :P Oct 08 04:58:03 GNUtoo|laptop: good news :D Oct 08 05:02:28 morning Oct 08 05:14:55 moin Oct 08 05:18:04 moin Oct 08 06:29:20 openmoko.org looks to be down, any info? Oct 08 06:29:40 if no info, can anyone remember the person employed by Openmoko Inc who has been handling admin stuff, maybe he got be e-mailed? Oct 08 06:31:57 ~NF Oct 08 06:31:58 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-10-07] wiki is down, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-October/063395.html Oct 08 06:48:01 jluis: thanks Oct 08 07:00:57 morning Oct 08 07:01:58 moin Oct 08 07:55:02 JaMa, if you haven't bumped mokojeweled yet, here is new rev e8123a4ca868d4bcb541a4dcf948374b21e9d9f2 Oct 08 07:55:06 with basic timed game :) Oct 08 07:55:13 s/timed game/timed game mode/ Oct 08 07:55:13 daniele_athome meant: with basic timed game mode :) Oct 08 08:00:20 daniele_athome: did few mins ago.. Oct 08 08:00:39 JaMa, np Oct 08 08:00:41 next time ;) Oct 08 09:09:37 mickey|office, hi Oct 08 09:09:57 can i add removeAll() and others similar methods to PIM interfaces in fso specs? Oct 08 09:10:06 i mean before that they are being implemented Oct 08 09:27:45 daniele_athome: yes Oct 08 09:28:09 nice :) Oct 08 10:33:06 [Rui], morning Oct 08 10:33:18 pull if you want Oct 08 10:33:22 new stuff :) Oct 08 10:33:36 quick and dirty for now, but working... will fix later Oct 08 10:34:03 <[Rui]> hms? aow cool! morning, woke up 20min ago :) Oct 08 10:36:21 lol Oct 08 10:51:05 <[Rui]> only difference I saw was a bar underneath, that's for score? Oct 08 10:55:24 [Rui], yes Oct 08 10:55:32 [Rui], and timed game mode Oct 08 11:54:45 new testing images are online Oct 08 12:03:50 hi mrmoku Oct 08 12:21:48 GNUtoo|oeee: congrats :-) Oct 08 12:22:21 <[Rui]> bbl Oct 08 12:25:10 mrmoku, it was just me asking the right person Oct 08 12:25:21 "the right person" did everything Oct 08 12:26:42 mrmoku, did you test the patch? Oct 08 12:26:57 and/or integrated it Oct 08 12:27:28 GNUtoo|oeee: no, just read the backlog Oct 08 12:27:31 * mrmoku daywork busy Oct 08 12:27:47 ok I'll do it later then Oct 08 12:29:02 btw the patch works well, and with 2.6.28 the battery doesn't discharge too much Oct 08 12:29:19 so with boot+power off Oct 08 12:29:26 we can now start real development Oct 08 12:30:53 basically I took maemo's defonfig and just added ext2/3,mmc,mmc block device Oct 08 12:31:04 and added the following patches: Oct 08 12:31:10 *gcc4 patch Oct 08 12:31:26 *the microsd order patch Oct 08 12:31:42 *the lat patch which fix microsd initialization Oct 08 12:31:46 *last Oct 08 12:31:52 and it worked Oct 08 12:33:11 GNUtoo|oeee: great Oct 08 12:35:12 we should also change the status Oct 08 12:35:18 s/change/update Oct 08 12:57:15 wooohooo wiki is working :-) Oct 08 13:49:44 heyho Oct 08 13:50:01 moin morphis Oct 08 13:50:22 playya_: wrote already to palm? Oct 08 13:50:28 nope Oct 08 13:50:31 do that Oct 08 13:50:57 you have time until 31 october Oct 08 13:51:02 yes. i think about asking for a pixi. Oct 08 13:51:09 hehe Oct 08 13:51:13 would even be nice Oct 08 13:51:30 as the pixi is with webOS on it a good device Oct 08 13:51:50 but need to check specs first (modem, touchscreen, ...) Oct 08 13:53:17 ok Oct 08 13:53:22 even take a look at the kernel sources Oct 08 13:53:27 but Oct 08 13:53:41 I took a look at the telephony stuff on the pixi Oct 08 13:53:57 and I don't really know if it is the same as on the pre Oct 08 13:54:16 TelephonyInterfaceDaemon seems to be rewritten for the pixi Oct 08 13:54:24 hmm. ok :( Oct 08 13:54:41 would be nice to have 2 devices with the same source Oct 08 13:56:57 jepp Oct 08 14:49:07 JaMa, i think you need a --enable-introspect=no for pango, gtk+, atk, python-pygobject Oct 08 15:29:38 playya_: for what? Oct 08 15:30:02 http://tinderbox.openembedded.org/public/logs/task/8513241.txt Oct 08 15:32:03 or you can fix the whole gobject-introspection, but i think you only need the .gir file from native Oct 08 15:33:58 ah I have about 40 recipes failing now because of libtool-2.4 and leaving in 2 hours.. so no time to look into it at all Oct 08 15:35:37 mrmoku, will you rebase n900 branch or should I do it? Oct 08 15:36:00 also is vala-terminal problem fixed in oe.dev? Oct 08 15:36:12 also: we should move the n900 branches to oe Oct 08 15:41:18 leviathan, hi Oct 08 15:41:21 still no cable I bet? Oct 08 15:50:31 GNUtoo|laptop: vala-terminal on gta02 works fine in current OE Oct 08 15:50:39 ok Oct 08 15:50:42 though JaMa always said it was working there Oct 08 15:50:42 mrmoku, can you rebase? Oct 08 15:50:50 ok Oct 08 15:51:00 on n900 branch Oct 08 15:51:24 as we will abandon 2.6.35 but keep the branch for future reference when 2.6.35 will be ready Oct 08 15:52:16 after the rebase I'll push 2 kenrel not-yet made commits: Oct 08 15:52:21 1)booting support Oct 08 15:52:36 2)modified defconfig to match more maemo's(removing bq27xxx) Oct 08 15:53:06 GNUtoo|laptop: rebased and forcedly pushed Oct 08 15:53:15 ok thanks a lot Oct 08 15:53:25 np Oct 08 15:57:11 JaMa: should I test the new image again? Oct 08 15:58:15 mrmoku: mmt, I have Illegal instruction while starting dbus-daemon :/ Oct 08 15:58:31 trying to reboot after opkg upgrade to it Oct 08 15:59:05 mrmoku: do you still have image from yesterday? can you try dbus-daemon --session? Oct 08 16:00:32 reboot didn't help Oct 08 16:01:46 maybe its after http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=8e1eef82a09c14668a125c720cfcd354bbeb42cf Oct 08 16:06:29 JaMa: moment Oct 08 16:10:18 JaMa: seems to work Oct 08 16:13:38 changes from yesterday in dbus doesn't seem to be able to cause SIGILL so probably that gcc patch :/ it fails somewhere in libexpat.. Oct 08 16:15:19 mrmoku, I'll build and push just after testing if it works Oct 08 16:15:31 GNUtoo|laptop: good Oct 08 16:32:56 Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction. Oct 08 16:32:56 0x40041164 in utf8_encoding () from /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 Oct 08 16:32:57 (gdb) back Oct 08 16:32:57 #0 0x40041164 in utf8_encoding () from /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 Oct 08 16:34:05 mrmoku, I can't test: http://pastebin.com/j0wUtmg4 Oct 08 16:34:33 JaMa, back works on arm? Oct 08 16:34:55 is it the thing that can make you go backward instruction-wise? Oct 08 16:35:07 | gee/Makefile.am:95: HAVE_INTROSPECTION does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL Oct 08 16:35:20 yes I saw that Oct 08 16:35:24 should I patch it? Oct 08 16:35:59 JaMa: ^^ is mickey|sports or you on that? Oct 08 16:36:11 because if someone already fixed it... Oct 08 16:36:21 it would be un-productive to try to solve it Oct 08 16:40:34 mrmoku, should I push? Oct 08 16:40:42 even if I can't test Oct 08 16:40:50 ? Oct 08 16:41:02 sure, push Oct 08 16:41:04 I haven't seen this error with libgee-native Oct 08 16:50:28 ok thanks Oct 08 16:53:16 ok done Oct 08 16:55:54 <[Rui]> hiya Oct 08 16:58:45 mickey|sports: hi Oct 08 16:59:08 are you still hunting prey, or what ever you are calling sports? Oct 08 16:59:31 I'm never sure at humans... some are even fishing Oct 08 16:59:32 ... Oct 08 16:59:36 anyway Oct 08 16:59:46 GNUtoo|laptop: what do you think about couchdb? Oct 08 17:00:46 leviathan, doesn't that require a server? Oct 08 17:01:39 <[Rui]> leviathan: thought it did too, by the whole fscking mess that gwibber became Oct 08 17:02:06 hmm Oct 08 17:03:23 <}mat> hi, did anyone in here test qi-bootmenu? Oct 08 17:03:50 [Rui], GNUtoo|laptop: thats the reason, why I thought about fso-JSON export Oct 08 17:03:55 in a fso-syncd Oct 08 17:04:39 shouldn't be that hard to do that? O.o Oct 08 17:04:41 <[Rui]> leviathan: json is cool. I strongly advise cJSON as the "library". Quotes are because for the time being it's not a library, it'a a .c and .h you add to your project. fast, easy, no bugs (so far). Oct 08 17:04:56 [Rui]: well Oct 08 17:05:03 so why not doing a fso-syncd? Oct 08 17:05:11 just no one has fun to do that? Oct 08 17:07:06 JSON rocks. Oct 08 17:08:06 <[Rui]> leviathan: I guess it just needs doing :| Oct 08 17:08:24 thats what I thought... Oct 08 17:08:38 well then I shall do a doc for the project idea Oct 08 17:12:25 <[Rui]> even if you don't feel like coding it, if you can do some groundwork in the planning section it'll already help who'll code :) Oct 08 17:14:20 <[Rui]> perhaps if there's even a page called "How can you help" code this :) Oct 08 17:21:14 <}mat> ok I guess that means nobody here has tested qi-bootmenu, thanks anyway Oct 08 18:09:37 fyi: it looks like jürgbi added the last missing feature to gdbus in vala. I'll be doing my first tests soon. Oct 08 18:17:24 mickeyl: hi Oct 08 18:17:33 [Rui]: heyo Oct 08 18:17:37 yo leviathan Oct 08 18:17:42 CouchOne Oct 08 18:17:44 :-) Oct 08 18:17:55 they use couchdb on android Oct 08 18:17:59 <[Rui]> mickeyl: #587? :) Oct 08 18:18:01 but an embedded implementation Oct 08 18:18:10 <[Rui]> leviathan: ah Oct 08 18:18:13 [Rui]: yes Oct 08 18:18:22 http://www.couch.io/page/dev/ Oct 08 18:18:26 it only seems Oct 08 18:18:33 that its a company behind it Oct 08 18:18:41 which plans to make it proprietary... Oct 08 18:18:53 so we would need to reimplement it into FSO Oct 08 18:18:54 [Rui]: yep, one of my tasks for the weekend now that everything builds again Oct 08 18:19:12 <[Rui]> mickeyl: sorry for being such a pester :) Oct 08 18:19:23 no worries, i can feel the pain Oct 08 18:26:41 mickeyl: (gdbus) oohh, good news :) Oct 08 18:28:46 mrmoku: does new shr-u image boot now? ;-) Oct 08 18:28:56 and if it boots Oct 08 18:29:00 does it something usable? Oct 08 18:29:01 leviathan: well, it somehow boots, yes Oct 08 18:29:03 does not work though Oct 08 18:29:19 (the one from tests/shr-unstable) Oct 08 18:29:19 ok, then still this filtering issues and so on... >_< Oct 08 18:29:32 oh, if it only was the filtering issues :P Oct 08 18:42:25 mrmoku, [Rui]: http://couchdb.apache.org/ Oct 08 18:42:29 mickeyl: look Oct 08 18:42:30 ^^ Oct 08 18:42:34 the image Oct 08 18:42:45 it seems that we can really just do sqlite backend Oct 08 18:42:55 and just use curl+JSON to communicate Oct 08 18:42:59 hmm... O.o Oct 08 18:43:03 would be cool Oct 08 18:43:27 especially since kde, windows and mac will all support couchdb per default Oct 08 18:43:29 ^_^ Oct 08 18:43:37 well windows not Oct 08 18:43:45 i'll have a look Oct 08 18:43:54 tv now... Oct 08 18:43:55 l8er Oct 08 18:43:58 mickeyl: kk Oct 08 18:44:12 have fun :-) Oct 08 19:16:02 mrkoku: hello, are you busy ? Oct 08 19:16:50 mrmoku: hello, are you busy ? Oct 08 19:27:21 nschle85: yup tv :) Oct 08 19:35:06 mrmoku: germany : turkye ? Oct 08 19:41:25 TAsn: hi, are you also busy ? Oct 08 20:00:24 nschle85: yup :) Oct 08 20:11:36 mrmoku: if germany has won the match do you have time Oct 08 20:11:45 mrmoku: ? Oct 08 21:07:55 mickeyl: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/8/84/Fsoarch.png Oct 08 21:07:59 what do you think? Oct 08 21:11:37 nschle85: a moment of time Oct 08 21:13:43 mrmoku: 1. thank you for creating an account for me. 2. to create the documentation java 6 and ant 1.7 is necesary Oct 08 21:14:53 mrmoku: is it possible to add an autmatic build task on shr server ? Oct 08 21:16:01 JaMa|Off, new mokojeweled version :) Oct 08 21:16:09 next time you'll bump take the latest please :) Oct 08 21:16:12 goodnight Oct 08 21:16:24 nschle85: no, don't think so Oct 08 21:16:44 nschle85: we have no root control and I doubt java 6 and ant are available Oct 08 21:17:24 mrmoku: who is the master of tinderbox running on shr server ? Oct 08 21:19:54 mrmoku: until the build process is cleared, ill provide builds on my server. Oct 08 21:20:53 nschle85: tinderbox is not running on the server used by shr Oct 08 21:21:11 nschle85: tinderbox is a service from the OE environment I think Oct 08 21:21:57 mrmoku: ok, so ill provide builds until its clear how to provide documentation builds Oct 08 21:22:05 ok Oct 08 21:22:51 mrmoku: thats all.. now you can watch pro7 stock car :-) Oct 08 21:23:08 nah Oct 08 21:23:18 not interested in motorsports :P Oct 08 21:23:30 ahh... stock car with raab Oct 08 21:23:38 might be interesting yes ;) Oct 08 21:24:09 mrmoku: its only qualifying Oct 08 21:24:48 hehe, ok Oct 08 21:25:03 mrmoku: good night, hope ill check in the first version of manual next week .... bye Oct 08 21:25:09 nschle85: good night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 09 02:59:57 2010